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July 11, 2025 78 mins

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Greetings, you curiouser and curiouser Herle Burly-ites! Today on the show ... the most popular, highest-rated panel conversation, of all the panel conversations. Making their world-record 8th appearance on The Herle Burly, I give you The Chiefs!

3 former Chiefs of Staff to some of Canada’s most accomplished heads of government.  Here to discuss the issues NOT as campaigners do —  i.e. what might be ideal in a political sense — but rather, what’s possible to deliver in a governing sense.

The Chiefs are:

Tim Murphy – former Chief of Staff to Paul Martin. Now the EVP and Chief Strategic Affairs Officer at AECON.

Ian Brodie – first Chief of Staff to Stephen Harper, and central to the founding of the CPC. Now Professor of Political Science at the University of Calgary and Senior Advisor at New West Public Affairs.

And, Brian Topp – former Chief of Staff to Rachel Notley in Alberta, Deputy Chief to Roy Romanow in Saskatchewan, and one of the architects of Jack Layton’s Orange Wave. Today, he’s a founding partner at GT&co.

For a brand-new federal government, hell-bent on breaking down barriers and red tape at record speed, this is a timely conversation. I want to talk about what’s changed in Prime Minister Carney’s government. How is it operating differently? How is it structured differently? And take an early progress report on how it’s managing a very ambitious agenda.

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