Charlie Robinson | American Gladio, Weather Weapons, & Psyop Season

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The planet's puppet masters
almost surely
have a plan.
There's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm
of man.
Not till we've thoroughly tested
every last close tested view,
I'll find the more we think we know,

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the less we religion.
Where would we be
without
c h c?
Because we know they're lying to us, us
don't know to what degree, where would we
be
without

(00:54):
It's been a long December from the sunshine
state. I'm Greg Carlwood. And even just 2
weeks into the new year, it's hard to
stay caught up on all the stress inducing
psyops, weather weapon events, chemical fogs, bird flu
migrations,
drone swarms, and World War 3 warnings, but
we do the best we can. Though it
seems like the pedonarcissist

(01:14):
psychopathic parasites of the power pyramid are frantically
flipping through every page of the big playbook,
trying to keep us in a confused panic
and maybe even implode the empire they built
on blackmail, black markets, and even a little
black magic.
It's hard not to get sucked into the
drama of the day, an endless loop of
narrative, counter narrative analysis, but it's important to

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remember how much of it is designed to
do just that and how seemingly random events
arrive right on schedule.
Well, here to break it all down, connect
the big dots, and demystify the madness is
one of the best available options, my friend
and yours, Charlie Robinson.
Hard to believe he's only been here 3
times before, but we've spent a lot of
that time covering his great books with titles

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like the octopus of global control,
hippocrisy,
surviving in a world of cultural double standard,
and The Control Demolition of the American Empire
coauthored with Jeff Berwick. Charlie is also the
host of the always insightful macroaggressions
podcast and the emcee of the annual Anarco
Poco conference in Acapulco, Mexico.

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But that's not all, people. He also recently
purchased the well known independent news website Activist
Post and the alternative health website Natural Blaze.
Busy, busy guy and as always, so much
to talk about so little time. The great
octopus tamer, macroaggressions
maestro, and your psyops season chaos correspondent,
Charlie, my man. Welcome back.

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Best
intro in the business
always. Thank you for having me. It's always
great to be back on the higher side
chats. Thank you. Thank you. Well, you know,
a lot of people are trying to get
the audience's attention, so we really gotta jazz
them up so they don't change that dial.
But you are one of the best, and
it's impressive to see you find these new
ways of changing it up and doing creative

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things and hosting events and buying websites. I
really need to take more pages out of
your book and find some new ways to
change things up myself, but
let's get into the real catalyst for coming
together, and that's the 2 events that kicked
off the new year, the Cybertruck bomber and
the New Orleans crowd attack.
They say there's no connection between the 2,
but both rented EV trucks from the same

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app,
decided to cause chaos on the same day,
and both have been military men stationed at
Fort Bragg known for their psychological operations unit.
That's kind of a lot of coincidences.
Yeah. Just a few. I just recently recorded
a Macroaggressions
episode, hasn't gone out yet, talking about this
exact same thing.
I get very nervous when I see things

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like this that line up both using the
Turo app to rent electric trucks,
both leaving manifestos, one written,
one video, both from Fort Bragg, both were
in Afghanistan at the same time, both carried
out their attacks on the same day. I
mean, you could call me a coincidence theorist
if you'd like, but I get nervous

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when I see things like this, especially when
the media frames it in a way that
is looking for a reaction. And I'll tell
you, I was on January 1st when this
was all happening. That was the first day
that I was
taking over activist posts. So I had my
hands full. Of course, I'm watching the news
because I'm republishing the news.
But the thing that caught my eye, and

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you see that everyone's getting run over in
New Orleans, and it's horrible. I can put
myself in that scenario, but I also spent
10 years in Las Vegas, in Las Vegas
real estate. 1 of my best friends sold
out the Trump Towers there, so I know
that place really well. And it wasn't until
I saw the photograph,
a burning Cybertruck with the Trump logo right
next to it. I took one look at

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it and I said, oh, we've got Operation
Gladio come to American soil because if there's
one thing they love to do, it's to
send messages and to see a burning
Cybertruck, which reminds you of Elon Musk, next
to the Trump logo and these 2 have
some sort of weird bromance going on.
It was a message in one photograph and
I took one look at that and I

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said,
nope. None of this is authentic. There's far
more to this story than what's being reported.
I'm absolutely with you. It looked like
the movie poster for some post apocalyptic film
coming out, like Civil War 2 or something.
And the New Orleans story definitely had some
weird aspects. As you say, you've been there,
I've been there. If you've been on Bourbon

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Street, you know it's a pedestrian street almost
all the time, especially at a time like
New Year's, and the barriers every city has
pedestrian streets, and there's always those big metal
barriers.
Why were the barriers down? You know? That's
the weird thing. As they say the barriers
were down, I don't know that they've ever
been down. He has this ISIS flag,
and then No Agenda found a clip where

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there was an article in a magazine run
by Al Qaeda called Inspire,
and they called the f 150
the ultimate mowing machine for mowing down crowds.
And this was in 2016,
the last time Trump was about to take
office. So they really did dust off an
old idea
and then, like, I don't know, scramble some

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poor guy's brain to make him do the
thing. But there also was this side story
of bombs in the area, bomb making materials
in his home. It's like when these things
happen, they say, well, there were definitely more
than 1 shooter, and then suddenly, nope. There's
a 1 shooter who acted alone. That's the
vibe I got from this, like, oh, there's
bombs around, but we know that ISIS equals

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CIA. Right?
And when
I saw the Cybertruck, you know, the electric
car,
I thought about a conversation I had with
Whitney Webb in 2020
in the lead up to that election, the
Biden election, and one of the things that
she was talking about was that they were
role playing
scenarios that might happen during the election.

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They were saying, Well, maybe a cyber attack
on the water treatment facilities
and power stations and things like that. But
the 3rd component that they were testing was
electric vehicles
being remotely controlled and driven into people that
were standing in line waiting to vote, that
they had role played that. Now it didn't
happen in 2020, of course, but the idea

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that that's a concept that they're role playing
and, of course, the group that was role
playing, it was, you know, like a Unit
8200 connected Israeli firm that was, like, really
sketchy. It's like, are you saying that we
should be aware of this or are you
telling us that you're planning something like this?
My little tinfoil hat starts to come out
when I hear these things in advance. And
so I had that in the back of
my mind for the 2020 election. I had

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it in in my mind for the 24
election as well. Neither
scenario has happened. But it just kinda got
me thinking when I when I saw it,
well, this is a truck that's being used,
it's running people over, it's doing all this.
I mean, yes, that happened not too long
ago in Germany over Christmas with the Christmas
market where a bunch of people were run
over there as well. So

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car as a weapon,
it's not the first time we've heard that,
but, of course, leave it up to the
mainstream media to describe it in all of
their headlines as car runs over people. Not
a person runs over people. It's like maximum
overdrive, like we just woke up one day
and the machines had taken over and they're
just driving without people in it. But no,
there's actually human beings in these cars, allegedly,

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and they are running people over. So
as Wilford Brimley's character in The Firm said,
I get paid to be suspicious when I
got nothing to be suspicious about. You know?
So when I see things like this, I
just cannot let it go. And I think
that it's worth digging into, especially when you
start to notice that,
you know, the overlap between the people involved.

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And you say, Well, it'd be one thing
if it was a disgruntled guy who had
lost his job, and you could sort of
understand that. But when both of the drivers
have ties to the same military base, and
that military base is the same military base,
if we can go back just 2 years
to 2022,
if you remember that really creepy video that
was put out called Ghosts in the Machine,

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That was put together by a group that
is called the
US Army Special Forces, which is the Green
Berets. But within that,
the components that they work on, counterinsurgency,
special reconnaissance,
counterterrorism,
information operations,
psychological
operations,

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psychological
warfare.
So they're the ones that put that out
and it was from the 4th SIOP group,
and that's Army Special Forces Information Operations.
And
just so that people aren't confused as to,
like, well, maybe, maybe not, you know, maybe
it's them, maybe it's no. No. If you
watch the video to the end, and it's

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3 and a half minutes long, at the
very end, they put the website,
goarmysof.com.
It's right there. They're not trying to hide
it. It's not for you to speculate as
to who's behind it. They're telling you what's
going on. And some of the text that
runs during that
video, you'll find us in the shadows.

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Warfare is evolving.
All the world's a stage.
We can deceive,
persuade,
change, influence, inspire.
We come in many forms. We are everywhere.
Now
I get freaked out when I see that.
That didn't strike me as a threat to

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other countries.
Right. I took that as a domestic threat,
that the psychological warfare was going to intensify
until
morale improved.
Right. And I really don't like the use
of AI, but I did use chat GTP
to ask this question about notable
tragic

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events where the person was connected to Fort
Bragg, and it gave a whole lot of
events.
John Walker Lind called the American Taliban.
He was an American who became famous as
the American Taliban. Was arrested in 2001 in
Afghanistan
while fighting for the Taliban. He basically switched
sides.
He was stationed at Fort Bragg. Sergeant Hassan

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Akbar in
2003,
another US Army soldier, he carried out an
attack on his fellow soldiers during the early
stages of the Iraq War. He killed 2
soldiers and injured
several others in a grenade attack.
He was from Fort Bragg.
Then you have
another name I can barely pronounce, but Abdou

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Kalim
Mujad Mohammed in 2009,
formerly known as Carlos Bledsoe, much easier name
to pronounce. He was involved in a shooting
spree at a military recruiting center in Little
Rock, Arkansas in 2009, killed a soldier, and
injured another.
He was from
Fort Bragg as well. And then the case

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of army major Nadal Hassan,
a US army psychiatrist who carried out the
Fort Hood shooting in 2009,
also spent a lot of time at Fort
Bragg, and this was just with one ask.
You know, I was gonna go down the
list of, like, all these events I could
remember and see if there was a connection,
but, I mean, that right there tells you

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that they got something sketchy going on there.
And this is also weird. So
there is a new threat of interest
with the New Orleans guy. They say that
he visited Tampa twice before the attack, and
there's a huge military base here called
Makdil, which is apparently one of the main

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hubs for all Middle Eastern operations. Even on
the local Tampa subreddit, someone was asking, why
are there Saudi soldiers
here at the Marriott?
And, you know, then the people just explain,
well, this is a base, you know, right
here that people in the Middle East do
operations with, so it's not super unusual. But,
you know, my spidey sense went off a

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little bit. Like, this is the kind of
thing you hear about in the aftermath, the
kind of warnings people say, but so
there is an event coming up in Tampa.
It's our biggest thing. It's called Gasparilla. It's
like a pirate themed Mardi Gras. They have
a big debaucherous day where adults get drunk
and dress as pirates, and they bring out
the pirate ship, and then they have another

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day where it's kids. And my daughter last
year, she loved dressing up as a pirate,
being on a main road waving to everybody,
everybody waving back. She still talks about it.
We've been looking forward to going to the
Gasparilla parade.
Well, now there's articles all over Tampa about
how this guy was here previously
twice. They don't know if there's a connection.

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Security will be heightened and will be
running live drills to prepare.
We've heard that before. So I don't know
if I'm gonna go,
but I just wanted to throw that out
there now
in case something happens that it's like, yeah.
I mean, this is the kind of stuff
that happens before an event. You know, everybody
says there were warnings, there were drills that

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went live, this kind of stuff, and it's
kinda circling around my my home city, which
is a little concerning.
Yeah. And Fort Bragg is a sketchy place.
I mean, it's the Army's most important base.
It's the largest one too. It's
251 square miles. They have 2 airfields there.
It's massive. It's in North Carolina.
This is where special operations assets are stationed.

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You have the US Army Forces Command, US
Army Reserves Command, US Army Special Operations Command's
there, 82nd Airborne is there, 3rd Special Forces
Group, Delta Force is there, JSOC is there,
Joint Special
Operations Command,
and
also US Army Special Forces, which is essentially
like American Gladio,

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and that's Green Berets, and we just talked
about what they're into. But for those who
are unfamiliar with what JSOC is, JSOC is
the president's private kill squad.
That's the team that gets sent in when
he wants something off the books and somebody
to die, which normally happens in foreign countries,
and this is like the Stanley McChrystals

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of the world. These guys,
it's very much like a Gladio, like elite
special forces that they'll send off to not
everybody, of course, there's 60,000 people that are
a part of JSOC, but the core unit,
like Delta Force,
they answer to the president.
That doesn't go up the chain of command
to Congress. This is where, if you want
to get something done off the records, that's

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how you would do it.
It's worth noting that the golf course Trump
shooter Ryan Wesley Routhe
visited Fort Bragg a 147
times and stayed overnight 29 times, and so
I I have to think, if you're Joe
Biden, if you go back in a time
machine to the summer
when Trump's getting shot at and Biden's
presidency

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is in shambles, his future as the nominee
is sure to come to an end pretty
soon. He can't even find his way off
the stage. And next thing you know, a
guy who is associated
with Fort Bragg
and JSOC,
this Ryan Wesley route, all of a sudden
decides that he's going to shoot at Donald
Trump on the golf course. Okay. Now, they

(16:07):
didn't send their best and brightest. I think
that if you had sent Delta Force,
we would've had Trump's funeral 4 days later.
But this guy has connections to it, so
it felt very much like
last ditch effort.
You know, let's have this group over there
tidy up the problem and maybe take a
shot at him, and then if he gets
caught, if he's successful, great. If he's unsuccessful,

(16:30):
then we just brand him as an unhinged
lunatic, and, yeah, they'll dig into his past
and they'll find some of this stuff, but
we'll just throw our hands up and say,
we didn't send him. I mean, he hated
Donald Trump. What do you want us to
do? A lot of people hate Donald you
want us to drag everybody down to the
police station who hates Donald Trump who has
a problem with him? Hell, it would be
here all, you know, for the rest of
the year. So
this is how
these things start to go. It's easy to

(16:51):
in retrospect, you can build this case and
you can look back and go, oh, my
god. It was so obvious that these guys
are connected. But like you said, trying to
call it in advance and to recognize
what will happen before it happens, that's way
more difficult to do. But if you know
what you're looking for,
live exercises, as you mentioned, that's a huge
indicator. And when I think about the live

(17:13):
exercises, the exercises that are a drill, but
then the drill goes live, then I go
to Boston bombing and things like that where
you have over the loudspeaker, you hear you
can hear
the guy on the loudspeaker saying this is
a drill, this is a drill over and
over again, right? So
we're not conspiracy theorists, we're conspiracy analysts. We're
analyzing actual conspiracies that are happening all the

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time and this is one of them And
when the 4th PSYOP group
of the Army's
psych warfare unit decides that they're going to
run an ad saying that we're everywhere and
all the world's a stage, well, when events
like this kick off and they have
fingerprints
of this group all over it, it's reasonable

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for us to ask the question, was this
one of the events that they told us
was coming? Right. Right. Good breakdown. And
it's really not even that complicated.
The
problem I find usually is just skepticism
of the system.
There's those who are skeptical. There's those who
aren't. And those who aren't, don't ask any
questions. But if you are skeptical

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of the news coverage and these kinds of
events,
the pieces are not that hard to put
together. I mean, as you're saying, they basically
put out an advertisement
that's like,
we do these kinds of things. And then
these things happen, and you don't apply it
to the individual event.
It's all right there. And I don't think
we need to go as deep on the
Cybertruck story, but the major thing

(18:39):
we should talk about is the manifesto that
apparently says all the drones over the East
Coast are China's anti gravity drones that can
attack anyone, any place. I just talked to
another guy about this. It's funny that the
subreddit for UFOs
was all about the Cybertruck conspiracy event, and
then the conspiracy subreddit was all about the

(19:00):
potential of UFOs. It's like the wires got
crossed, and those groups are usually pretty separate.
Not around here, but, you know, on Reddit,
they're kind of separate.
And
this manifesto
was apparently
sent to Sam Shumate, who allegedly previously faked
some emails about Ukraine funding, so
his track record isn't exactly great. So they

(19:20):
say, you know, this is 3rd hand. I'm
not saying anything here. I'm just reading. And,
he goes on the Sean Ryan show to
talk about it, and the FBI comes out
and says, yes. We have reason to believe
that manifesto is genuine and legitimate,
which is really odd for them to do
because they never confirm
anything,
especially, like, front loading a podcast appearance. Like,

(19:41):
hey. We gotta get out there and make
our announcement that this thing is gonna be
genuine.
I don't know. Just something seems off with
that whole manifesto
story and
the Sean Ryan
reveal.
What do you think? Did you look into
this thread at all? Well, I was looking
into the guy himself, Matthew Littlesburger,
the guy who apparently was involved in this.

(20:03):
He's a noncommissioned officer in the Army Special
Forces. He served in Afghanistan
at the same time
as
Shamsudin
Jabbar, the guy from New Orleans. So this
is Littlesberger's
track record.
He was in Afghanistan from
2,008 to 2010.
He was in the Congo

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in 2014.
He was in Ukraine in 2016. Tajikistan
in the tail end of 2016.
He went back to Afghanistan for 2 years
from 2017 to 2019. He was in the
country of Georgia in 2021.
And then he was in Las Vegas in
2025
on approved leave, which
I get, you know, I mean, he's it

(20:45):
the sheep dip, Tim McVay sort of nature
comes to mind when I think about some
of this. So
this is a guy who spent quite a
bit of time in some
dangerous places,
as you do when you're Special Forces,
it's tempting to think, well, he would know.
Right? I mean, if anyone would know about
these sort of weird technologies, it would be

(21:07):
some guy who's in the Special Forces. But
when you start saying it's China,
you know, I go, well, that feels like
misdirection to me.
Maybe there are drones and maybe there are
things that can do what he's talking about.
But
when they start saying, well, it's China and
it's been here for a while,
first of all, it feels like they're trying
to demonize China, which I'm not saying that

(21:29):
China isn't up to no good. I'm sure
they're doing everything they can to try and
subvert us to the extent that they could.
And if they had drones like that, would
they park them off the East Coast? I
don't know. Maybe.
But I just don't think that a manifesto
from a sketchy guy who has special forces
in Fort Bragg's ties
is going to be enough for me to

(21:50):
say, well, you know, let's take that one
to the bank. I mean,
sounds reasonable to me, and especially with the
guys' I'm gonna go on Sean Ryan's podcast.
You know, he's ex CIA.
But in my book, ex CIA,
always CIA.
You don't leave the agency.
Not unless you're going to work in some
other capacity, which is, I left the CIA,

(22:11):
and now I'm gonna start this podcast. Hey,
does his YouTube podcast get
demonetized
and strikes like ours? Did we sign up
for the wrong YouTube channel when we set
up ours? Because he seems to have no
problem talking about all these things. But you
and I, boy, I mean,
I don't even have a YouTube channel anymore
because I was shown just exactly how much

(22:33):
they appreciated my content. And now all of
a sudden it's got the CIA stamp of
approval on it. I don't know. Color me
a bit suspicious on this one. Right. Right.
And I really think
this kind of stuff is a little thorny
because there's people who make the claim that
if you're above a certain level, then you're
clearly compromised, and they'll loop me into that
kind of group. And I'm like, I don't

(22:54):
know. There's a very big difference between
someone who's never been able to monetize on
YouTube, has a 100,000
subscribers, sure, but can't get 500 views on
a video. It's just, like, clearly, it's algorithmically
suppressed. And I don't care. YouTube can do
what they want. I try to play outside
of their pool.
But there's definitely a difference between someone who

(23:15):
has kind of an unnatural
rise,
all their guests are kinda connected.
It's an ex CIA guy who is interviewing
ex CIA guys and military op guys who
are coming on the show to reveal the
big secrets.
It's like, I don't know. That's not super
genuine. Also, someone who does the interviews in
person,
like, if you really think out the logistics

(23:37):
of that,
every week, you have someone sitting down with
you in person that you've flown out from
like, it requires a pretty big infrastructure
to do that kind of thing. I'm always
skeptical of the in person
shows and just the
team that has to put all that together
because it's just it doesn't really work that
way.
And I have nothing against Sean Ryan exactly.

(23:59):
I just find, like, you know, my
sketchy barometer goes off, you know. And like
I said, people say that about me, so
I don't like to levy the same criticism
at other people, but I'm also trying to
back up my point a little bit more
and show the difference.
But Sean Ryan, when this happened, he first
said he and his family were gonna go
into hiding over the reveal, and then he

(24:21):
posted this. He said, over the past few
days, something's become very apparent to me. Everyone
claims to want truth, transparency, and disclosure unless
they aren't a part of it. And then
if they're not a part of it, they'll
stop at nothing to try to destroy everything
you've ever done. No matter how good or
how much truth, their ego will consume their
entire mind

(24:41):
and, eventually, their entire existence. Humanity is in
a sad state.
And I'm just like, boo hoo, dude. I
mean, it sounds like gaslighting 101. This isn't
a jealousy thing. I'm doing fine.
It's all the things I mentioned, the unnatural
growth, doing everything in person, putting in your
Twitter profile that you are ex CIA.

(25:02):
I mean, if you are a former
CIA contractor,
then you should be the first one to
know about psyops and media infiltration. Is this
mockingbird
media in the podcasting space? Because you shouldn't
be
surprised of anyone's skepticism
if you're saying, hey. I'm part of the
machine sometimes, one foot in, one foot out.

(25:24):
Like,
why are you surprised? People are skeptical.
He should not be surprised. I don't know
that he truly is surprised that people are
skeptical. I mean, you can't be in that
world and then leave it and then say,
Oh, I've left all that behind. Well, the
amount of resources that's required to get you
into the CIA,

(25:45):
they spend the money on training you, put
you through an entire
career.
There are very few people, maybe Ray McGovern,
I don't know, maybe there's very few people
that I can find, like, that used to
be in the CIA that I would listen
to in terms of what they have to
say. No.
On the one hand, they're in a position
to know things that other people wouldn't know.
I get that.

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But when you're doing 90% truth, 10% bullshit,
then that's all you need to skew a
story into I mean, what if the manifesto
or the email that the guy wrote about
drones off of the East Coast of the
USA,
what if all of that was true
except the China part? And it was only
one lie in a sea of other information.

(26:28):
And instead of China, it was actually, I
don't know, Israel or Pakistan or whoever. Right?
That would make all the difference in the
world. So you can give everybody
a ton of truth and throw one
tiny error in it, one
slight
misdirection in there, and it skews everything. And
these people are taught that they're trained how

(26:49):
to lie. Mike Pompeo bragged about when we
go through school at the CIA, they teach
you how to lie.
So this goes to what David Icke is
talking about, the mainstream alternative media,
this new segment that's popped up. And you
look at the mainstream media with MSNBC and
CNN,
and their ratings are in the toilet after
this election.

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And the gaslighting from them has been
astronomical over the last 4 years with COVID
and the Biden administration and all of that.
I mean, I don't know why anybody turns
on the television any longer and gets their
news there. And I think that there's a
calculation that's been made by these intelligence agencies
that say, all right, we can't run
Operation Mockingbird

(27:31):
on television like we used to, but doesn't
mean we can't run it in the podcast
world in some sort of newfangled
version where we then
influence these shows or we allow these shows
to grow or we sprinkle magic dust on
these shows and they magically get a 100,000
viewers
within their 1st year, which is completely

(27:52):
antithetical to anybody who's ever grown a podcast
knows that that's just not possible unless it's
being made to happen. So
I'm really think of it the way you
put it, which is the live shows. But,
yeah, the live shows. I mean, the sort
of
budget that needs to happen and infrastructure
and planning and sorting and all of that.
I mean, we do that on our shows,
and we understand what goes into that. But

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to fly people in all the time, well,
you have to have money to do that,
and your sponsors aren't gonna just give you
money before your show is successful unless you're
being made to succeed because of it. And
so
I think it's the new area that people
need to keep their eyes on is this
mainstream alternative media, and you've gotta make sure
that the people that you're watching or listening

(28:36):
to, you have to almost kind of dig
into where they get their money. Of course,
we saw this in the last 6 months
with the Tim Pool situation
and the Bennie Johnson and all this. It's
like, well, we were getting money from Tenet
Media, and we didn't know where that money
was coming from and we didn't maybe do
the best job digging into
where it's coming from. And, you know, a
case can be made that, Oh, you know,

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Hey, listen, they didn't have to pay me
for my opinions. These are my opinions
regardless.
They happen to be paying me.
And you might think that these are my
opinions that I'm being bought, but in actuality,
I feel this way regardless. I might as
well take the money because, you know, I
can understand how they would justify that to
themselves, right? But the minute your audience starts

(29:19):
to think that you might be compromised,
oh,
that's just just too hard. And it's so
difficult to recover from that. I think your
credibility is is everything. And I don't know
that it would be worth it if you
were an authentic person that was genuinely trying
to do the best job you could with
your show. I don't know
how you can play that game

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and take money from those big corporations
and not expect
even if you don't get
pressure from them, how do you not expect
your audience to just assume that you're getting
pressure from them? Right. Because they're giving you
money after all. So the money in that
side of things
can skew it.
And we, as content creators, are always extremely

(30:03):
concerned and aware of our reputation because it's
the most valuable thing we have. And if
somebody wants to come in and offer you
a bunch of money,
my initial response would be to be very
suspicious of that. Yes. Yes. And you can
even look at, like, Ben Shapiro's company. You
might consider that part of the mainstream alternative
media.

(30:23):
It's like, well, there's big money behind that
for sure, and, of course, they will criticize
everyone but Israel. And it's like Israel deserves
a little bit of criticism these days for
sure.
So sometimes it is about just protecting one
group. It's like, no. Go ahead. Talk truth
about, you say, 90 and 10. Talk truth
about so many things to build the credibility,

(30:44):
but on this one thing, you never go
there. And that's kind of
how a lot of these things operate. And
it's not even about the money.
I mean, it is partly about the money
of flying people in for in person interviews,
but it's, like, people who are good interviews,
people who you want to interview, they're busy
people. They have lives. They aren't gonna just
take 2 days out of their life to

(31:06):
come fly to where you are to do
a couple hour interview. I struggle sometimes to
get people to do 2 hours because they're
like, I can do a bunch of podcasts
in only 1 an hour from me. And
it's like, yeah. I mean, I'm just asking
you to get on Zoom.
It's just one of those things. Like,
every week on a schedule, you just have
people who fly to you. It's like it
seems like a machine. It seems like a

(31:28):
I don't wanna say propaganda machine, but I'm
saying propaganda machine.
It seems that way.
Nobody's gonna convince me that people get on
an airplane to go have a conversation with
Lex Fridman because he's interesting to talk to.
The guy will put you to sleep. Shots
fired.
The fact that that guy has a podcast
that is automatically suggested to me every time
I open up YouTube for some reason, even

(31:49):
though I don't watch it, makes me a
little bit suspicious. And and again, I can
understand how some people would say, well, you
guys are just jealous of this. No. I
would love to have
the sort of viewership numbers, but I'm not
willing to do the kinds of things that
you need to do in order to get
that. I just can't do it. I wouldn't
feel good about myself.
And if YouTube all of a sudden took

(32:10):
a real interest in me and wanted to
promote my show, man, I would be extremely
suspicious of that as well because they've spent
the last 8 years telling us that they
hate us and they don't want our content
there and they wanna ban us for certain
words. And yet you view that unbalanced
situation
and you go, well, why is that guy
allowed to say it? Well, you know, he's

(32:30):
a trusted source. Well, is that because he
has connections that are valuable to YouTube to
keep in play? Is it I mean, YouTube
is obviously
Google, and Google is a military contractor
and we understand
the role of Silicon Valley
and the military and how these

(32:50):
platforms have come to be. We understand the
origin story of Facebook. We know that it
was a CIA
In Q Tel project that went live, so
I don't know why we would ever really
be truly
surprised that we're being suppressed when you've got
a platform like Facebook that will throw you
off there if you question
ivermectin or vaccines or Israel or Sandy Hook

(33:13):
or whatever. I mean, you name the polarizing
topic, if you start to cover it, you'll
get dinged. Let me rephrase that. If you
start to cover it too early, you'll get
dinged. But then there becomes
a time at which a couple years down
the road, then the topic is safe for
discussion, then Tucker Carlson can talk about, then
somebody else who's a little bit more mainstream,

(33:33):
they can all of a sudden start to
have a conversation. You know what? Ivermectin. I
have questions about Ivermectin. It's like, shit, we
had questions about it in 2020. You wouldn't
let us have the conversation.
You shut us down, and now all of
a sudden Tucker Carlson can have that con
I mean, good. I'm glad that you're finally
talking about it for what it's worth. It's
a little late,
but I'm glad you're talking about it in

(33:53):
general. But can we do this moving forward
where you're not stomping on us because we're
early? And when you're early, you always look
crazy. You know how that is. When you
start talking about these things
18 months before everybody else,
They wanna fit you for a straight jacket,
but then, you know, a year or 2
goes by and it's starting to
get mainstream traction and all of a sudden

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you're waiting for the apologies that will never
come.
Yeah. Good points. And mainstream alternative media is
just a great term, and why wouldn't it
be there? The old media system is collapsing.
You have to come in with something else.
And I don't want this to sound like
a pity party for us, but it's just,
like, pay attention to
who gets thrown right at the top of

(34:36):
the pile
routinely and their production value and
the things they say. That's all. But
moving on, you know, talking about what happened
on New Year's, that's
might as well
be ancient history at this point. I mean,
we're 10 days into a New Year. Things
are happening so fast. That is yesterday's news.
Today's news is all about the LA fires.

(34:58):
Obviously, I lived in California for a decade.
There are fires every year, and the news
is really great about making it seem like
the whole area is just completely destroyed
when it's really a lot more spotty than
it's presented.
And I just know this from friends and
family who didn't live in California, always calling
me every year, like, are you okay? Are
you okay? And it's like, yeah. I'm okay

(35:20):
for, like, a 50 mile radius. Maybe there's
just more land out here than you think.
But this one does seem
a little bit different. I mean, man, the
things I see from a bird's eye view,
maybe it's because I'm seeing it through the
media lens for the first time rather than
being present,
but it seems different in terms of size

(35:40):
and scope. What are your thoughts?
I lived in California for 30 years. I
was born there. My best friend lost his
house in Pacific Palisades.
He was so proud. I feel like I
wanted to throw up when I was
texting him. Are you okay? Is it gonna
miss you? And he said, it's gone. I
said, oh, it's gone past you? Are you
okay? Are you out of the line of

(36:01):
fire? He said, no, no, no. Everything good
is gone.
I lost my house, and I said, oh
my god.
Another friend of mine who I'd grown up
with, she lost her house.
My wife's college friend lost their house. I
mean, this is happening all over the place
in Los Angeles. For those that aren't familiar
with the area, I mean, where Pacific Palisades
is, it's sort of in between

(36:23):
Santa Monica
and Malibu.
It's a beautiful place. It's in the canyons.
Part of the reason why people with a
lot of money want to live there is
because the topography is amazing, you know? You
you get changes in elevations and it's a
really
interesting neighborhood and,
yeah, there's a lot
of celebrities that live there and I think
that gets most of the headlines, but it's

(36:43):
mostly just working people people that have worked
and done really well and want to live
in a place that's beautiful and convenient for
them. And,
you know, we saw the Maui fires and
what happened there.
And it's a combination of
government
well, I don't even want to call it
incompetence. It's malice,

(37:04):
because it's more intentional.
Decisions that get made by these officials
talking about
where the water goes. I mean, if we
remember, Maui, they turned on the hydrants and
nothing came out either. So
the water gets cut off, political decisions, at
least in California, some of the decisions were
made with what they did with the rainwater
and they didn't fill the reservoirs because there's

(37:26):
an endangered fish that likes when it's half
saltwater and half freshwater and it lives in
this. They're like, Oh, my God.
Who cares about the fish?
You're in Southern California, a place that burns
all the time,
with PG and E, the electric company who's
been
involved in fires,
the Camp Fire which killed a ton of

(37:47):
people,
and others.
They're always at the forefront of this. Gavin
Newsom had a crew in his office rewrite
some legislation to protect them moving forward, of
course, because why wouldn't you protect the power
company who's responsible for the deaths of, I
think, 80 people in the Camp Fire?
Yeah. Well, let's not
increase our spend on fire mitigation. Let's protect

(38:09):
Pacific Gas and Electric because, you know, they
contribute to my campaign, and so we've got
to take care of them first. So there's
decisions that are made on a state level,
on a local level,
and there's incompetence that's almost sort of baked
into the equation.
When you've got Karen Bass running in L.
A. And when you've got Gavin Newsom running

(38:30):
California,
these people are
terrible at their job to the point where
you have to ask the question, are they
there
because they're terrible at their job?
It can't be based on
merit, because if it was on merit, you'd
find anybody else.
But it seems that they want the worst
people there. They want the most unqualified

(38:51):
and incompetent people there so that when things
go wrong and they go wrong all the
time, whether
accidentally or
intentionally, they can then say, well,
we'll put it on Karen Bass and she'll
stand in front of that microphone bank and
people will be firing questions at her. She'll
stand there like an idiot frozen for 2
minutes and not say a damn thing to
anybody.
You go, these are our elected officials? I

(39:13):
mean,
I hope
that this is a wake up call for
the people of California in general and Southern
California in particular.
Wildfires
are not
uncommon.
Happening in January
is not normal,
but wildfires in and of themselves
have always been part of it. As somebody
who who lives in Southern California, you just

(39:36):
sort of plan accordingly for it. You do
the best you can and put the fire
breaks in and make sure that you're defended,
you know, your property is as protected as
possible. But they cut the budget for that
stuff. They cut the budget for the fire
department. They sent a bunch of equipment to
Ukraine. You know, this is the type of
things you do when you are running a
banana republic, not when you're running an actual

(39:57):
country
that's trying to put its best foot forward
in hiring the best and brightest to represent
the community. No, it's we've got to get
a black woman to be the mayor of
Los Angeles because there are so many black
people in Southern California that we want them
to feel like they're represented. Okay, fine. That's
great. I have no problem with that.
Is she the most qualified?

(40:18):
Well, no. She's functionally retarded.
Well, then can we get a different black
woman in there that I don't even care
if it makes everybody feel better that she's
of a particular race and gender or ethnicity
or handicap or she ticks all the diversity
boxes.
Just get somebody in there who actually knows
what they're doing
and wants to help people and wants to

(40:39):
make things better. But I take a look
at this cast of characters,
especially in California,
And you can't tell me
that they've been put in there because they're
the best
they have been put in there because they're
controllable.
They won't ask tough questions.
And when things go wrong, you can count
on them to fail
and fail upwards, which is what's happened through

(41:01):
all of California. I mean,
we almost got a president of the United
States who had failed upwards through the chain
of command in California for 25 years, who
has nothing on her resume
except
one catastrophe after another. And she was
damn near the president of the United States.
So unfortunately
for people like Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom

(41:22):
and Chesa Bowden, who is the district attorney
of San Francisco, who implemented the, you know,
you can steal anything $950
or less, and it's fine. We're not gonna
do anything. These people,
they're not incompetent
accidentally.
They're incompetent on purpose. They're there because they're
broken people.
Right. And those are great points, and I

(41:43):
never I can't say I never thought about
it this way, but maybe not at the
scale and scope. But the DEI thing just
being
like, you have to have a sales pitch.
You have to
have a positive way to do something negative
a lot of the time. So if you're
trying to exacerbate disasters
and do something like the title of your
book, The Controlled Demolition

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of the American Empire,
when you
put out an operation or use a weather
weapon,
you don't want competent people to shut it
down quickly.
You want incompetent people to make the mess
way worse. And how do you get that?
Well, you gotta sell it maybe with the
DEI. It's kinda like the whole immigration thing.

(42:25):
The news does not separate
immigrants from illegal immigrants. They just say they're
migrants and they're refugees,
and it's like, no. A lot of people
are totally fine with immigration.
It's the border being open and the illegal
immigration that people are not cool with. And
the fact that you can't separate the 2
and you try to just paint everyone as

(42:45):
some racist bigot, I mean, that's telling. And
you can say that this is kind of
the same template, the DEI template of getting
incompetent people into positions of power just to
make things fall apart faster.
This one woman,
she's the LA Department of Water and Power
CEO,
Janice
Quinones.
She apparently makes 750

(43:06):
k a year, and when she was asked
why the water was out, she didn't really
know. She's not quite sure even though she's
in charge of the Department of Water.
Then, yeah, the African mayor, Karen Bass, she's
in Ghana during all this. It's, like, not
even present.
And
I think we saw it was the police
chief who was being interviewed, and she won't

(43:27):
even speak. She's absolutely frozen.
It's like, wow. I mean, these are the
people who are in charge of this stuff.
And just like the barriers not being up
in New Orleans,
why are the fire hydrants dry? It's like
everything is set in place to not be
able to handle
the problem when the can is kicked over.
And it's sad to hear that you know

(43:48):
so many people who
have lost their homes.
My first guest of the year was Maja
Deo, and she
emailed me earlier just to say that her
house is gone.
I saw posts from our mutual friend, Monica
Perez.
It looks like her house is there, but
the fire was right up on her driveway,

(44:09):
and her whole neighborhood
is largely destroyed. And
even if your house is still standing, there's
a lot of pieces to pick up. And
the smoke, you know, people are like, oh,
don't breathe the smoke. It's like, well, of
course not. But also,
these houses are burned to the ground. Think
about all the plastic and toxic bullshit
and Styrofoam and just all the nutty stuff

(44:30):
that are in people's homes, their TVs melting
and all the chemicals that releases.
Yeah. You need to get the hell out
of there.
What do you think about the weather weapons
angle? I mean, this always pops up every
time, but we have seen pictures of houses
burnt to the ground, trees still standing,
the blue trash cans sitting there like there's

(44:50):
nothing wrong with them, and blue was a
big thing before, like the directed energy weapons
for some reason.
Avoid blue things
strange, like something in the paint, but what
are your thoughts on some of those ideas
that this was
a weather weapon and not just the natural
thing and then the added incompetence?
Now that you you mentioned Karen Bass being

(45:11):
in Ghana when this went down, wasn't the
governor of Hawaii out of the country as
well when the Maui fires hit? I think
he was conveniently
elsewhere.
The situation in Maui, first of all, if
you complied,
you died.
If you were somebody trying to escape that
on the road and the cops were turning
you around,

(45:31):
the people that listened to the police and
went back didn't make it. It's only people
who disobeyed the orders that were able to
get out from that road. And of course,
you dig into it in the aftermath, and
you go, well, what was going on there?
We're hearing all these questions of directed energy.
Is this are we just making something out
of nothing? Well, in Maui, it's one of
the 2 directed energy facilities that they're testing

(45:52):
all of this stuff based there in Maui.
So it's reasonable to think that. I'm suspicious
of these I mean, on the one hand,
Southern California has fires. Right? So it provides
the cover story needed.
You could say, well, fires do happen there,
and you go, oh, yeah. I know. They
do. I mean, I can't say that they
don't.
But when I see the aftermath of a

(46:13):
row of houses that are all burnt to
the ground and out in front, right at
the curb, there's a blue trash can and
it didn't melt. And I know it's made
out of plastic because I got a trash
can, it looks just like that in my
garage.
You know, I start to ask questions when
I see in Maui that certain
trees were not burning
and others were burning from the inside. That's
very suspicious. We saw pictures of that going

(46:35):
on in Pacific Palisades as well, where trees
look like they were erupting from inside. They
were burning on the inside. I don't know
how that works. I'm not an expert in
fire. Maybe somebody can set me straight and
say, Well, that's sort of a normal thing.
Maybe it is, but
it's abnormal for it to be happening
all at the same time in different spots.
And I know that there's currently somebody that

(46:56):
got arrested
last night for arson, who was involved in
setting some fires. I don't know if that
is a copycat situation. I don't know if
that is a plausible deniability, some setup where
they stick some guy out there and say,
hey. Light this thing on fire. I'll give
you a $1,000 if you do it. And
then he gets caught, and you can say,
see? It's arson. It's just human beings doing
stupid things. It's certainly not

(47:18):
satellites or drones
or whatever. But we know that technology exists.
We know that there's drones that spray fire
because they use them to start back fires,
legitimate backfires that the fire department is trying
to start in order to do controlled burns.
We know that they've used drones,
flamethrower
drones that are very scary looking. Now, is

(47:39):
that something that the fire department uses for
starting backfires or is it possible that that
technology can also be owned by somebody else
who wants to start fires? And cui bono,
who benefits from this? What's going on?
I knew a couple months ago
that State Farm and multiple insurance companies
had made the calculation that doing business in

(48:01):
California was no longer
profitable for them and that they had decided
they were going to drop coverage for a
lot of these places in Southern California.
And
to me, I didn't actually get suspicious when
I heard that.
I actually thought,
I don't blame them
if you have to deal with the state
of California

(48:21):
and the insurance regulations and everything that comes
with it. I almost can't blame any company
for wanting to leave California at this point
because to do business there is becoming increasingly
more difficult.
But
when I see that it happens
real fast afterwards, you know, not fire season,
winter.

(48:42):
Not that Southern California has a traditional winter
like everybody else,
but it's not 95 degrees with Santa Ana
winds like you get in August. It's winter,
and we're getting Santa Ana winds there,
and the timing seems
off to me. And you couple that with
the fact that the insurance companies
pulled out in advance, and you asked the

(49:03):
question, is that did they know something that
we didn't know?
Or did they just think that doing business
in California was so
onerous with all of the regulations and restrictions
that are put on it by these woke
morons in Sacramento
that run the state, run it poorly?
Is this a business calculation or is it
something more than that?

(49:24):
Hopefully, we'll figure out
what's going on. I mean, as of the
recording of this,
they're still on fire.
The fires haven't been put out yet, so
we're gonna have to do a post mortem
on this whole event in the aftermath.
And again, the media will do what it
always does, which is make a big deal
out of it right now for a couple
of days. And as soon as it's over,

(49:44):
72 hours later, it'll be out of the
news cycle and they'll be on to something
else like they are. I mean,
you don't think that the Maui people are
all doing fine. They're just not getting coverage
anymore. So
the assumption is, well, I don't hear about
them anymore, so it must everything must be
sort of sorted out there. Well, it's not
sorted out. They're all still having major problems.

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And my heart broke for Maui because
that was such an important place
for me. It's a place I had been
going
as a kid.
When my dad passed away when I was
16,
my mom and I,
it was obviously rough, and it happened over
Thanksgiving
back in 'eighty 8. And when we got
to Christmas break, my mom said,

(50:26):
we need to get out of town and
where do you want to go? And I
said, well, we've gone to Maui before and
we really liked it,
and my dad really liked it, and maybe
we should go to Maui and lick our
wounds there for 2 weeks
and get out of town. And so I
have an association with Maui there, been going
back and forth. I spent my 50th birthday.
We were there. I took my daughter who

(50:47):
had never been. We were in Lahaina. We
did all the shopping. We had dinner at
Kimo's and did the things that you do
when you go there and it's such a
fantastic place. And then a couple of months
later, that happened. And, you know, if it's
an authentic organic sort of fire that just
kind of broke out and everything, that that
would be one thing. But given our level
of understanding about what's really going on and

(51:07):
you find that this is being done intentionally
and you have questions about smart cities and
my heart breaks for all those people that
were affected by it, but through no fault
of their own. And I wonder if they're
going
to you know, I wonder if the people
of Southern California are going to wake up
after this and say, you know, we have
allowed incompetent
leadership to take a hold of our state

(51:28):
and run it into the ground.
And even if you take out the directed
energy component,
even if you've set that off to the
side,
just the fire mitigation
component that could have easily been put in
place and should have been in place and
was in place and Gavin Newsom withdrew it
and made it so
these areas were more susceptible

(51:49):
to fire risk.
That is a crime.
And so even if these victims never
connect all the dots, even if they just
connect one dot, which is government incompetence or
maliciousness, however you want to frame it, was
responsible for setting the stage for something like
this where it could happen or could accelerate

(52:10):
that in and of itself should be enough
to get people to start thinking about the
representative
officials in a different way. But of course,
in Southern California, maybe not. Maybe after being
a blue state for all these years,
they're just resigned to their fate that they're
gonna have Democratic leadership in there. And I'm
no Republican either, but Democratic leadership who's focusing

(52:32):
on what gender the fire truck is rather
than making sure that there are fire trucks
there on the scene.
Right.
And, again, it's like if the system wasn't
always lying to us about everything, we wouldn't
have to jump to conclusions. We wouldn't have
to be immediately skeptical if they didn't have
this climate change
program that they're trying to jam down our

(52:52):
throats when they're lying about things, we wouldn't
have to connect the dots and say, well,
this seems like it kinda fits with the
picture you're trying to paint, the picture you're
trying really hard to paint that isn't naturally
coming together for you. Seems like this might
be part of it, but
we're going a little over. I love talking
to you. Before we go, we gotta talk

(53:13):
about why we do the dance and do
the promotion stuff.
So you got activist post now. You got
natural Blaze.
We could all use trusted information sources outside
of the social media firehose and the mainstream
media and the alternative mainstream media.
Talk to people about these websites, other things
you got going on. Give them the anarcho

(53:35):
poco pitch. I mean, the list is long.
You're an active guy.
I have created a ton of work for
myself. That is true.
Activist post was just one of those synchronistic
type things. I got an email from the
owners in July 2024,
saying we've been doing this for 15 years,
and we're ready to transition into something else.
But we've built these great platforms,

(53:57):
activist post, natural Blaze, and we don't want
them to go away, we would love for
somebody who's ideologically aligned with us to
carry on
the work, would you be interested? And I
said, No.
And then I waited about
48 hours. And then I thought, you know,
when the universe presents you with an opportunity,

(54:19):
sometimes your job is to act on it.
I thought about it. I thought I can't
afford not to do it. Activist post has
been an important part of my life.
I've been reading them for 10 years,
and I thought
I could do this.
So we made the decision, I agreed to
buy the company. And one of the things
that I wanted to do is rebuild the
website,

(54:39):
been in existence for 15 years, kind of
an older site, wanted the new one to
work really well on mobile and to be
secure because everybody's on their phone. So it
flies on mobile.
But I didn't build an app, didn't want
to centralize control into an app store in
either the Apple ecosystem or Google. Too easy
for them to say no to it. I
watched that happen with Zero Hedge. And so

(55:01):
if anyone's interested, they can bookmark activist posts
on their phone and just get to it
that way. So there's not gonna be an
app. That's not because I don't wanna build
one for convenience. It's because I don't wanna
build one because it's too easy to centralize
the censorship into that. So
it launched January 1st. I'm the new editor
over there. I get to curate the content
and pick the articles that I think are

(55:21):
important.
We've got 8 categories there. One of the
categories I thought was extremely important is solutions.
We do a good job of complaining about
the problems out there. But if we don't
offer solutions, what good are we, you know?
So
that's part of it that I wanted to
make sure that people had an opportunity to
go there and not just read about some
of the dire things that are happening worldwide,
but also

(55:42):
have a path towards getting themselves out of
the system to the extent that they can.
And part of that also,
you know, it fits with the overall all
the work I'm doing, albeit in Mexico and
Acapulco,
middle of February for Anarcapulco,
the 11th
annual largest anarchist conference in the world that
happens every year in Acapulco, Mexico. It's fantastic.

(56:02):
It's 5 days. Every day is a different
topic. Day 1, fuck the government. Day 2,
health and wellness. Day 3,
crypto. Day 4, sovereign skills. You know, I
watched an amazing presentation about ancient
trees when I'm done emceeing. And I go
sit in the stands with my notebook and
just take notes, and I get to meet
everybody that's there, all the speakers. It's a

(56:23):
fantastic place. I really encourage people
if you've got the opportunity
to get there in the next couple weeks,
you should go I mean, listen, there's worse
places to be than Mexico in February. It's
beautiful there.
But more so than that, it's very inspiring.
You're around people that are actually doing things
that aren't
just complaining, but they're actually building outside of

(56:43):
the system. They're not interested in fixing the
current system. By the way, they have no
interest in doing that. What they're doing is
they're building parallel systems that are outside of
it.
So if you want to get connected with
people, it's very international in scope. If you
can make it, go. If you can't, you
can stream it, and you can watch it
from home. And it's like the all star

(57:04):
weekend, you know, of the alternative media, everybody's
there. I had
one of the coolest experiences last year
where we opened the 1st day of it.
The first interview we did was David Ike.
He wasn't able to be there in person,
but I was able to interview him remotely.
I was on the stage. He was behind
me on the massive big
screen. And then I had a live audience

(57:25):
with all the people and we had asked
them, get your questions, fill out your questionnaire.
And so I had all the questions that
the audience wanted to ask David. So I
was conducting the interview asking the questions while
I had my Ike shirt on, my Ikea
shirt. It's like the Ikea yellow Ikea shirt,
but it had the Ike logo on it
instead.
It was a trip, man. I felt like
I was having an out of body experience
because in 2019,

(57:47):
my first year there,
I had a chance to sit front row
and watch David Icke do a 4 hour
presentation. That was fantastic. And for me to
go from that position there, and I and
I met him that during that trip, and
we've stayed in contact over the years. The
Icke's have been very good to me. For
me to then have the opportunity to interview
him on the stage was a huge thrill

(58:07):
for me. So this year, we've got Gareth
Eich will be out there, and there's a
whole lot of characters. I encourage people to
go to anarkopulco.com
and see what you think. And if you
find something that you like, if you're interested
in going, use the discount code macro. That'll
save you some money.
But come on out and enjoy it during
the day. And then at night, we'll go
to Max Egan's bar. He's got a Casa
de los Cuervos right down the street, the

(58:29):
crow house. It's where everyone goes at night.
You can sit out there. They got live
music. You can have a beer, smoke a
joint out in the patio. Nobody gives a
shit. It's a fantastic place. It'll renew your
faith in humanity. I'll tell you that. When
you get done after that week and you
get on the plane and you're leaving, you're
gonna have a network of people that you
can reach out to, you might even be
thinking about relocating

(58:50):
somewhere else.
And you're gonna restore your faith that there
are good people out there, very smart people
that are tired of dealing with the government.
And they have decided that they're more qualified
to handle things than they think the government
is. And so they're building outside of the
system, and it is very inspiring. So I
encourage people to go and check it out.
And of course, macroaggressions,
the podcast,

(59:10):
We celebrated
our 5 hundredth episode.
I put that out a couple of weeks
ago. That was an episode that was about
my mom.
Had a rough 2024
with her as I came to Las Vegas
to be with her for a medical diagnosis,
which turned into a stage 4 pancreatic cancer
diagnosis in a 90 day window.
And so I spent the last 98 days

(59:33):
of her life with her
and helped her with that transition. What a
humbling and amazing
experience that was. Obviously, very sad.
But
we watched funny movies at night. We ate
ice cream, even though, you know, ice cream
kind of fuels cancer. But
when your mom asks for ice cream, you
get her ice cream. You know what I

(59:53):
mean? So we we did that, and we
had a great time. And
we said everything that needed to be said.
And when I listened to all her stories
that I'd heard a million times before, but
I wanted to hear them one more time.
And I was there with her when she
passed away. And I feel like
that was the end of one chapter of
my life. I knew that activist post was

(01:00:15):
going to be kicking off a couple weeks
later.
And now I'm in the new chapter. So
I encourage people who are interested in getting
news from a place that's not going to
get censored. Tell you that right now because
I'm in charge of it. And so if
you like what you see there, please, I'm
asking you nicely, share the content with other
people. Just share it. That's all you need
to do. Just find something you like, put

(01:00:36):
it on social media or send it to
a group of people that might benefit from
it, and that's how we keep this thing
going. And I appreciate you having me back
on, Greg, as always. I
enjoy and
really look forward to our conversations.
Oh, yeah, man. I wish we did it
more often. I tend to just wait until
someone has a book. You know? You're always
writing too,
but the news was stacking up, and I

(01:00:57):
was excited to hear about you buying those
papers. I was like, digital papers, I guess.
But, yeah, I was like, yeah, we got
some things to talk about, and, it is
always a pleasure. And it's always sad to
lose someone you're close to, especially a parent
when you got young kids, and you know
that that story, that relationship is kind of
over.
But I guess all we can ever ask

(01:01:17):
for is to make sure we say all
the things that we wanna say and nothing
goes unsaid.
And if you get that time with a
person who still has their faculties,
I mean,
they don't live forever. So
sad, but, you know, I'm glad you got
that with your mom. So,
yeah, man. It's tough out there, but thanks

(01:01:37):
for taking the time. We covered some great
stories in just the first two weeks of
a new, probably very crazy year.
I'm lucky to know you. Best of luck
in the new ventures. Thanks for stopping in.
Thanks for having me.
Yes. There we go. A return to form
for THC

(01:01:58):
with just the guy to get us there.
Man, the news cycle is really redlining everyone's
attention just a couple weeks into the new
year,
I'm starting to feel like they really love
to do that. Sandy Hook kinda hit around
Christmas, New Year's time, and, of course, COVID
was the start of 2020,
especially in the last few years. That new

(01:02:19):
year's
new start, ready to do it fresh energy
just gets
deflated by
couple of high profile events.
And then it seems like a lot of
people's
emotional tank gets kinda drained.
And I understand, especially with what I've seen
online, there's probably not a lot of empathy
for people living in LA.

(01:02:42):
But you gotta remember, it is not just
Hollywood celebrities
and slimeball agents and creepy producers. There's a
lot of regular people who just grew up
there,
and a lot of people willing to suffer
the vow of poverty in their youth, hoping
to take a long shot at a dream.
A dream I think is kind of fizzling

(01:03:03):
out, but, hey, that isn't my problem.
But I really shouldn't have to remind anyone
that a city, any city, is 1,000,000 of
different people enduring many different life conditions.
But I've just seen so many posts that
are like, fuck it. Let California
burn. This is what you get.
Those types of comments, it's like, come on.

(01:03:24):
So many people live in places where they
loathe their leadership and the decisions that have
been made, but it's not in our power.
And many cities and states have cartoonish
archetypal
stereotypes about the people that live there, but
we all know that every kind of person
lives every kind of
place. And this is the suffering of our
fellow citizens,

(01:03:46):
but I am glad we could both bring
some stuff to the table when it comes
to those New Year's events.
Almost seems like ancient history already.
But that Tampa event that is tangentially
connected to the New Orleans guy Gasparilla,
it's actually today.
Well, today is the children's parade that my
daughter walks in, and then tomorrow is the
main

(01:04:07):
drunk fest event.
But fingers crossed, it is uneventful.
Let's hope there's nothing to worry about.
But, yes, Charlie is a favorite. He really
should be someone we talk to more frequently
when we have these peak psychodrama
periods.
He has such a great
conspiratorial
background that he can really put the pieces

(01:04:29):
together quickly
and apply the same old templates appropriately.
He knows how to parse the story for
what's important and what's probably
bullshit.
We're on the same page with just a
lot of stuff. Good guy.
I feel like I was a little out
of touch with what people
were wanting the past couple weeks, at least
that's what they told me.

(01:04:51):
I like both shows with Maja and Josh
Cutchen and Ryan Grolick,
but in the context of a current events
heavy jump start on the new year,
people were expressing to me that they would
have rather
had something more related to the news cycle.
The old bread and butter conspiracy.

(01:05:11):
But I can only move so fast sometimes,
but either way,
I think we got to be pretty thorough,
and I hope we said all the things
that need to be said.
We didn't talk about the UFO disclosure stuff
very much. Not exactly Charlie's bag, more of
a Josh Cutchin thing, but they're saying today
is the big
reveal. New evidence expected.

(01:05:32):
New whistleblower.
Some say they might even show materials
or have footage of a craft retrieval.
I don't hold my breath. I don't get
all worked up. I don't even think that
they're operating within the right paradigm or that
I want
disclosure to come from
the military.

(01:05:53):
They're clearly angling for something. They always are,
but just figured since it was relevant that
today seems to be that reveal, keep an
eye out.
You might hear a few interesting threads. At
least it's good from an analysis
standpoint even if you don't take it all
at face value.
But that said, really good first hour today.

(01:06:13):
We tried to fit in a lot of
stuff. I tried to make sure it was
front loaded with the good information, the important
stuff.
The plus show, of course, only adds more.
We talked about operation
sea spray,
which is maybe related to
the fog people see.
We got into the bird flu threats and
the manipulation of the food supply and the

(01:06:35):
control of local farmers,
and we talked about building parallel systems to
empower the individual against that government overreach.
I do think the true revolution is more
about just being self sufficient and more independent
from the big system,
But several things I found interesting in that
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(01:06:56):
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What else? What else? Oh, yes. I did
find a little more about that bacteria we
talked about in the second hour.

(01:07:40):
Cerellia marcessions
or SMARSessions
as they say.
As a reminder, Operation Sea Spray was in
1950
and this says since 1950
SMARSessions
has steadily increased as a cause of human
infection.
With many strains resistant to multiple antibiotics.
The first indications of problems came with the

(01:08:02):
influenza vaccine produced by Chiron Corporation in 2004,
which involved s Marsessions
contamination.
In early 2008,
the FDA issued a nationwide
recall of one lot of prefilled
heparin lock flush solution.
The heparin
IV flush syringes had been found to be

(01:08:25):
contaminated with SMAR sessions which resulted in patient
infections.
The Center For Disease Control confirmed growth of
SMAR sessions from several unopened syringes of the
product.
It has been linked to 19 cases in
Alabama
Hospitals in 2,011
including 10 deaths.
All of the patients involved were receiving total

(01:08:48):
parenteral
nutrition at the time. So basically getting IV
fluids.
19 cases, 10 dead.
Bit of a coin flip if you got
a syringe tainted with this bacteria,
but this is the same bacteria
sprayed on San Francisco in Operation Sea Spray
and what 2 random Internet sources without much

(01:09:09):
verification
claim
has been tested for in the chemical
tasting fog people were experiencing recently.
But then I thought, Chiron,
that's another one of those esoterically
charged names. Well, here's the deal with that.
Chiron was notable throughout Greek mythology for his
young nurturing nature. His personal skills tend to

(01:09:32):
match those of his foster father, Apollo,
who taught the young centaur the art of
medicine, herbs, music, archery, hunting, gymnastics, and prophecy,
and made him rise above his beastly nature.
Chiron was known for his knowledge and skill
of medicine, and thus was credited with the
discovery of botany and pharmacy,

(01:09:53):
the science of herbs and medicine.
Like satyrs,
centaurs were notorious for being wild, lusty, overly
indulgent drinkers,
violent when intoxicated, and generally uncultured delinquents.
Chiron, by contrast, was intelligent, civilized, and kind
because he was not related directly to the

(01:10:13):
other centaurs due to his parentage. He was
the son of the Titan
Cronos,
obviously AKA Kronos, obviously AKA Saturn,
and the oceanid,
Valera.
Man, sometimes I'm just like, what even is
Greek mythology?
Also, if you've ever gotten a detailed birth

(01:10:34):
chart, they do sometimes incorporate the
asteroid Chiron. Well, it's actually a comet if
you wanna be technical, but for some reason,
it's called an asteroid in a lot of
the birth charts that I've seen. But in
terms of things that aren't planets that are
incorporated into birth charts that also aren't the
sun and the moon,
Chiron is probably

(01:10:54):
top of the list.
I mean, we narrow it down that far,
things that aren't the sun and the moon
or planet. It probably is the whole list.
It's the only other thing that I've ever
seen thrown into birth charts.
But I thought that was interesting. Another one
of those
names of a corporation
that harkens back to
those old metaphysical names and space.

(01:11:17):
But I love that Charlie is expanding his
work, trying some different things, like Josh Cutchin
producing a documentary on the last episode. I
should do more outside of the show itself,
I think, but
I don't know what that would be.
Oh, well.
On the subject of the last show, you
know we always point out what it was
rated by the Plus People, and Josh

(01:11:38):
and Ryan picked up a 4.4.
Not bad. It got a little scary for
a minute, but a 4.4
is a good recovery from the lower number
that I saw a few days ago.
But I thought it was better than that.
We really started cooking with gas when we
got into the disclosure stuff and into the
second hour, but the number doesn't lie.

(01:11:59):
Before we go, you know we like to
hit the meetup calendar, lay it out where
THC fans are getting together,
and here's what we got. 1st on deck
is January 23rd at the Coral Tree in
LA. Hopefully, that's still going on. Make sure
you check with the host and confirm.
January 25th, Allentown Alchemist at McCall Collective Brewery

(01:12:21):
in Allentown, Pennsylvania.
We got the Conway pub meetup on February
1st in Conway,
Washington, and February 3rd, Auckland, New Zealand at
Gail Brauth's Ale House.
February 8th, McCall Collective Taphouse in Baringsville,
Pennsylvania.
Still not sure if that's the same location
with a different
town name.

(01:12:42):
February 10th, Santa Fe, New Mexico, the Cava
meet and greet at Roots and Leaves. February
15th, h two booster in the Netherlands.
And then, of course, March 8th, a meet
up here in Tampa somewhere with me and
Gordon. Still circling around the venue.
We hit a couple dead ends as negotiations

(01:13:03):
were
taking place.
One of the owners in particular got very
concerned about what we might be talking about.
And, you know, whatever. We talk about taboo
things. If you're uncomfortable with it, then probably
this isn't a good fit.
But we will overcome. We will find something.

(01:13:24):
Also, in February, as Charlie said, Anarko Poco.
Probably one of the biggest
and most fun sounding
last remaining conspiracy conferences on this island Earth.
An event I do wish I could go
to, and I really might try to make
it more of a thing next year, but
use the coupon code macro if you do

(01:13:45):
plan to go this year.
Good stuff, though. Bookmark his new ventures activist
post and natural blaze.
I hope we can at least support him
by making those sites part of our
news digestion
routine.
I know he will fill it up with
good stuff, and it's an ambitious undertaking.

(01:14:06):
But I support the passion and the effort.
Again, just feel really lucky to know Charlie.
And to close this one out, I wrote
a song with lyrics inspired by Charlie's first
book.
As is the case now, you can download
these songs on the show page from the
website if you wanna copy. It's free for
all.

(01:14:26):
Just a silly little thing, but I was
just about to put this episode out with
a song that I came up with playing
off Charles in Charge, but at the last
second, I realized how bad it was and
started over.
And now my 3 year old is already
singing this one, so
you're welcome, kid.
Take care. I've done my part.

(01:14:48):
Your move American Gladio operators, weather weapon wielders,
and mainstream alternative media promoters.
Your
fucking
move.
We are in a lot of trouble
across every
industry.
Food, water,

(01:15:09):
lettuce,
and computer
tech and energy.
The people aren't paying attention.
Not much is getting through.
Gains in the information

(01:15:29):
war are getting long overdue.
What's left for the big old octopus
to get its tentacles
around. Sure, it's got a grip on

(01:15:52):
everything,
but it's a long way
down.
A oily appendage
is on a big monster
we know,
working their way in every

(01:16:13):
orifice
all over the globe.
But we need to be united.
We need to make a better case.
Facts
over propaganda,

(01:16:34):
justice over grace.
What's left for the big old
octopus,
to get its tentacles
around?
Sure, it's got a grip on

(01:17:10):
deconstruct the playbook
for us.
Wake them up, get a little loud,
they can't continue
to ignore us.
Us. The history
is
obvious.
The future's
changing

(01:17:31):
fast.
Lead us not into temptation
by
parasitic
psychopaths.
What's left for the big old
octopus
to get its tentacles