Sofia Smallstorm | Blood Guac, The Archonic Underworld, & Fortifying Our Divinity

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It's the end of the world as we
know it, but I feel fine coming in
hot from the sunshine state. I'm Gregg Carlwood.
And when you know the power of the
PR marketing machine and the attention grabbing algorithmic
everything,
it's easier to see that people's focus is
often directed towards a few highly charged stories
of the week and moving us from one
staged event, engineered outrage, or public psychodrama

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to another.
And an immeasurable amount of things fall through
the cracks or are intentionally left out of
our news feeds as to let the psychopathic
super system keep right on churning and burning.
Untold corruption, secret agreements, hidden agendas, unseen operations,
and an endless list of things one must
go out of their way to learn about.
And one of those dedicated to deeper dives

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outside of the conventional informational quarantine is the
great Sophia Smallstorm.
She's been here 5 times before talking about
everything from Sandy Hook strangeness, geoengineering, and cell
phone radiation to transhumanism,
biological darkness, and the dangers of oxidative stress.
She still puts out her avatar update newsletter,
bringing

(05:20):
subscribers new information found in her own self
directed research rabbit holes and also blogs at
about the sky.com
and maintains a store of health promoting damage
mitigating products at avatarproducts.com.
Back after 4 long years, the Federation of
Natural Life Freedom Fighter oxidative stress alarm sounder
and geoengineering

(05:41):
educator, Sophia, welcome back.
Greg, I'm really happy to be back because
it was 4 years, and so many people
were telling me, why aren't you on Fireside
Chats? And I said, he has disappeared.
Ah. And you did. You disappeared to bug
land.
Bug land. Yes.

(06:01):
Or Gaitersville, as I like to say. And
it has its advantages and disadvantages.
It's true. But it is what it is.
Anyway, how are you doing? Hopefully, not near
any fires.
No. The fires are right around the corner
as they would say in New York.
No. You have bugs. We have fires.
No. It's terrible. We know what these fires

(06:22):
are. We know what they come from,
and I'm writing a newsletter on that now.
I always write these newsletters. I fill stuff
in, and I think of how to pull
in another thread. I think of these things
in the middle of the night, Greg.
I wake up and I go, oh, I
have to put this in the newsletter, and
then it's a struggle.

(06:44):
Should I get out of bed and write
this down, or am I gonna remember until
the morning?
And I tell myself, you must remember this
until the morning.
Well, I know you don't have Wi Fi
on, so you can actually think at night.
I can think at night. Yes. And I've
learned a lot of things about those. We
have to get back into sync, into a

(07:05):
group. But let's this will be our experimental
show. Okay. Okay? If I leave the show
abruptly,
it'll be a no go.
Well, hopefully, that won't happen.
But it is nice to talk to you
again after so long. You were kind enough
to send me the last few newsletters, and
I read them all. Lots of diverse topics
and off the radar information.

(07:27):
I figured we could start with blood guacamole
or this really interesting deep dive you did
into the cartel controlled avocado trade. I have
had a few guests who focus on the
cartels and their drug and human trafficking,
but it's very concerning that those black market
profits are now monopolizing

(07:47):
legal markets with the same cutthroat practices and
violence.
Talk to us about some of the surprising
things you learned on this.
First of all, Greg, I haven't met a
single person who doesn't like avocados.
You know? Yeah. It's almost like baby food.
It's baby food. It's a great color.

(08:09):
It's so creamy.
It has a little taste of onion.
It slides down your throat.
Somebody told me they put it in smoothies.
People make pudding out of it, sweet stuff.
I cannot imagine. My
brain and sensibilities
cannot go in all those directions.
But there was a time when the avocado

(08:29):
was unpopular,
if you can believe it.
So California,
the lovely land that you left
so abruptly
for your own reasons, California,
you know, they were
promoting
property,
tract of land sales with citrus. They would

(08:51):
tell
potential homeowners,
oh, buy this house because it has citrus
trees around it, and you can pay off
your mortgage because you will have oranges and
lemons.
So this was going on, I think, in
the early part of the 1900,
and then
that started to go stale,
and
they had to come up with another gimmick,

(09:13):
the developers in California, how to sell land.
And
they tried all kinds of different fruits,
kumquats,
and different things like that. Nothing took until
they tried the avocado.
And then they were actually publishing ads showing
drawings or pictures
of avocado trees with dollar bills hanging from

(09:35):
the branches.
And there was a postal worker. His name
was Rudolph Haas, h a a s. This
is 1925.
He worked at the Pasadena post office. He
made 25¢
an hour.
Okay?
And that's not much.
He
had,

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with the help of a horticulturist,
because avocados are not easy to grow, but
he had seen this picture of this
avocado tree with dollar bills hanging. And then
he plundered his savings and borrowed from his
sister, and he bought a piece of land
with avocado trees on it. And he learned
how to
graft,
which is a horticultural

(10:18):
technique,
with the help of a real horticulturist.
How to graft avocados and get a hybrid?
And so
he made this tree
that was an improvement on the Fuerte type
of avocado, which was, I guess, the most
popular one at the time.
And
it was then named the Hass avocado

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after
he began to sell it to his friends
at the post office
for several dollars,
4 or 5
avocados
in a bag,
he sold for $1. But imagine that's 4
hours of work. Right? So his tree was
producing tremendous amount of fruit, and avocado is

(11:00):
actually a fruit. It's a stone fruit.
So this Haas creation,
he had patented it in 1935,
and it is now the champion of all
avocados.
It is smooth and fatty inside.
It is dark and nubby. It has a
tough outer skin. The Florida avocados where you

(11:22):
are, I think they are thinner skin,
and they're more watery.
So the oiliness of the host,
it slides down the throat even better. You
know?
And the Hass avocado
was
something that managed to take off worldwide, and
that was actually

(11:42):
the feat
of,
shall I say this or show you?
Remember 911
and the Kuwaiti ambassador's daughter
who gave the talk before
congressional
group.
She was representing
I'm sorry. I I haven't No. It's all
good. I actually do have this here because

(12:04):
I mentioned PR and marketing in the intro
because this did really stick out to me.
But you wrote, if you remember the incubator
baby's story that got America into the 1st
Gulf War, this was tearfully told by a
young Kuwaiti girl to the US Congressional Human
Rights Caucus in October of 1990 describing Iraqi
soldiers looting incubators from a Kuwaiti hospital

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and dropping the babies on the floor.
The story was made up as part of
a PR campaign to hustle public support for
the US led liberation of Kuwait from Iraqi
occupation. It worked. The Washington DC public relations
firm
Hill and Knowlton,
had been paid 10,700,000
by a group calling itself citizens for a

(12:48):
free Kuwait to sell the war to the
world as news programs later reported when the
stunt was exposed.
And we have the very same outfit, Hill
and Knowlton, to thank for the modern avocado
craze, which quadrupled consumption
of the bumpy pear in America in 2022
or by 2022,
thanks to prime time Super Bowl ads pushing

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guacamole
and avocado
toast at the turn of the century.
So I do think that's really interesting. I
just like hearing more examples
of how the public's attention is directed
and how demand is manufactured,
even in areas where you wouldn't expect. People
always say Edward Bernays is the father of

(13:31):
the modern American breakfast.
Eggs, bacon, all that stuff. Because he was
like, how can I take all the pieces
of the farm, put it on one plate,
and sell it to people? Because everything you
find is a $1,000,000,000
business to somebody somewhere,
and nothing ever really seems to be organic.
Nothing ever really seems to just

(13:51):
come
naturally without being
shepherded along by someone making money somewhere.
Yeah. So organic in that sense, yes. But,
Greg, I also learned, and this is quite
fascinating, that
avocados,
even if they're not grown organically
in soil that's not treated with chemicals,

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and they're usually
more expensive, the organic avocados. But doctor Mercola
reported several years ago that his people, whoever
they are, tested
the conventionally grown avocados, and there's no trace
of pesticide in them.
So you can buy the conventionally grown avocados
and feel pretty confident that you're not getting
a big dose of pesticides

(14:37):
because it's that skin that's so hard. I
mean, it repels insects.
The other thing is, though, that you are
probably buying from a cartel.
Yeah. That is the thing.
So
this is kinda where the story really pops
off is
you talk about this one region,

(15:00):
mikokan,
Michio kan,
and that's where 45 of all avocados
consumed in the US are grown. It's the
most important avocado producing region in the world,
accounting for nearly a third of the global
supply.
This cultivation requires a huge quantity of land,
much of it found beneath native pine forests

(15:21):
and even
more startling quantities of water. It's often said
it takes about 12 times as much water
to grow an avocado as it does a
tomato.
You say recently competition for control of the
avocado and the resources needed to produce it
has grown increasingly violent often at the hands
of cartels a few years ago. In nearby

(15:42):
Europan,
19 people were found hanging from an overpass
piled beneath the pedestrian bridge or dumped on
the roadside in various states of undress and
dismemberment, a particularly gory incident that some experts
believe
emerged from cartel clashes over the multibillion dollar
avocado trade.
I mean, wow. It really almost sounds silly

(16:05):
for that sort of violence to be about
avocados, but money is money.
And
I worry that if they make this big
pivot, which already seems to have been made,
there's nothing illegal about selling avocados. So
you can funnel black market business to legitimate
businesses,
and then you're just entrenched in building wealth.

(16:27):
And if you have these
monopolistic,
very cold hearted practices, you know, you can
deal with things as they come up, but
you become a little bit more ingrained in
conventional society and the conventional economic structure.
Greg, let's give credit to the source of
this avocado information,
which triggered

(16:48):
my whole interest in cartels.
It came from the Harper's Magazine,
the literary magazine, not Harper's Bazaar. The November
2023 issue, there was an article titled Forbidden
Fruit.
And this was the article that talked about
the cartels
having infiltrated the avocado market.
So some of the things that you read

(17:09):
are actually quoted from Harper's. I just wanna
clarify that some of the stuff you read,
and I say it's from my newsletter. And
the only way people are gonna find that
out is to subscribe to my newsletter for
god's sake. Right?
Always be closing.
So, Greg,
the reason that
it takes 12 times the water to grow

(17:29):
an avocado
that it does for a tomato,
look how watery a tomato is. The avocado
is rich. It's fatty. It's high energy. So
it takes so much more
energy from the earth, which is basically plants
are drinking up water.
It's the water,
the amount of water consumption that is a

(17:50):
factor in the richness of the avocado.
So what's happening in Mexico is that these
cartels
are running the avocado business. They are
just cutting down trees,
the native pine forests, which keep Mexico
properly hydrated. Let's just say the land. So
the land is drying up. The pines actually

(18:12):
release water into the air, and the avocado
suck water out of the ground.
But it's such a big business because there's
such a popularity
all through the world now for avocados,
particularly in America,
that these cartels,
they take money from the growers for every
kilo of harvest.

(18:32):
And so the cartels are chopping down the
pine forest. They're replacing them with avocado saplings
that are sucking up the water and drying
up the country.
This is why
the avocado
business is referred to in Mexico as blood
guacamole.
And the trees that are growing there are
the Hass variety,

(18:54):
which is a hybrid of Mexican and, I
believe it's Guatemalan
avocado strains.
But
all of these trees come from that first
tree that Rudolf Haas grafted in his backyard
in Pasadena
in the 19 twenties.
So
we are looking at control of a country,

(19:14):
and that's where I go with the rest
of the newsletter.
But we have to talk about that little
independent
Mexican
state, Charon,
because they've done something pretty unusual.
Yes. Very inspiring. Maybe we could take a
page out of their book, but tell the
people about Charon.

(19:34):
So, apparently,
the Mexican constitution
guarantees
indigenous communities the right to autonomy.
And in 2014,
the courts of Mexico
recognized the municipality
of Cheran, c h e r a n,
as

(19:55):
autonomous sovereign.
And so it, at the same time, was
entitled to apparently 1,000,000 of dollars a year
in state funding.
So now it's an independent
zone.
And because it was granted its independence,
it changed its whole infrastructure. So I'm gonna
quote from Harper's.

(20:15):
The townspeople of Turan kicked out the police
and local government, canceled elections, locked down the
whole area.
Cheran reopened with an entirely new state apparatus.
Political parties were banned. A governing council had
been elected. A reforestation
campaign was undertaken to replenish the barren hills.

(20:36):
This means the places where the pines have
been cut down and the avocados were growing.
Right? Military force was chartered to protect
the pine trees and the water's supply of
the town
and new water filtration and recycling
programs were created, and the avocado was outlawed.
Okay. No more avocados

(20:57):
in Sharon.
And so they took over, and there are
signs throughout the little
area. Planting of avocados is prohibited.
The community police force, the new police force,
wears fatigues,
black jackets with helmets. They carry AR fifteens,
and they have instructions to destroy avocado trees
wherever they find them. And anyone who grows

(21:19):
the illegal avocado will have his land taken
by the government.
So they are breeding pine trees in the
town nursery, and they're planting them where the
avocado groves once stood.
And this is their
reforestation
program. They are a mere 20,000
people,
and
this is what they've managed to achieve.

(21:42):
So they changed the gun. They kicked out
the cartel.
Yeah. You know, we're led to believe the
cartels are so powerful and so bloodthirsty and
violent that you can't do any of that,
but here we go.
Now,
Greg,
I did read in that Harper's article that
there was another

(22:03):
sovereign area that got its independence in 2018.
But, apparently, now the cartels have infiltrated what
are called
autodefenses.
These are groups that defend
themselves.
And now you can't even tell
what's
real defense, citizen defense, and what's a cartel.

(22:25):
We always say in the alt media movement
that the bad guys infiltrate
us.
And today, I've never heard of
us wanting to infiltrate the bad guys. Right?
Right.
Oh, why don't we? What's the matter with
us?
Well, I think the reason is because
the bad guys, you know, are kind of

(22:46):
the established
structure, and anyone who gets brought into the
established structure
is
immediately suspected of of being dirty. So it's
really hard to
be a
champion of the light when you're
swimming around in the darkness because we've been
made to be so skeptical over the years

(23:08):
that no one would trust that person to
actually be trying to do anything good.
You mean if we come back to our
our group,
having once infiltrated the cartel let's call we
are run by cartels. You know? That's the
reality.
And these cartels have apparently existed
for a very long time. In the middle
ages, they were merchant groups,

(23:31):
and they ran things.
So the definition is a group of producers
who collude to control the supply or prices
of a type of good or service.
So, oh, they were merchant guilds,
guilds and syndicates,
associations
of craftsmen.
Right. British East India Company, that kind of
thing.
Right. But even smaller groups than that. So

(23:51):
we've always had
these
cartels
hanging around,
hovering,
breathing down our necks. And then we had
these
larger groups that use cartels to run economies,
these authoritarian
regimes.
So now, you know, we have
the world being run by

(24:13):
ugly black cartels, basically.
That's what I think.
Well, I agree with you. And the whole
idea of infiltration
of
the cartels I mean, let's just say the
American
machine, the big superstructure
of government colluding with these
robber barons, these cartels, if we wanna use

(24:34):
the term.
You know, a lot of people think that
has happened. I don't really think so, but
we are recording this right before a new
administration
or an old administration
retakes
control,
and a lot of people think that this
is an infiltration
of the traditional system
by people who do have good intentions.

(24:57):
You know, that's obviously out there. I'm curious
what you think about it. By the time
this goes out to people, the inauguration will
have likely already happened. But I know you've
followed RFK Jr for a long time,
and that's kind of gotta be something that's
a little bit interesting, if not actually exciting,
that he would be involved in things at
a high level considering

(25:18):
what he says.
Now there's a lot of people talking about
that whole thing being infiltrated
and that they've had to sit down and
negotiate
deals where it's like, look. You can talk
about seed oils, but you can't talk about
vaccines anymore. We can solve this problem over
here. We'll let you do that, but you're
not gonna upset this over there. And because
you're right. It is all cartels. There's money

(25:40):
flowing in certain directions,
and any truth that's a threat to that
has to be carefully negotiated down so that
the same old people can make the same
amounts of money. But
in terms of infiltration, it's just funny you
bring it up because that conversation, though I
think it might be naive, is happening right

(26:01):
now. I'm curious what you think. Well, Greg,
I believe that these appointments,
like RFK Jr, have to be approved by
Congress. Right?
And so
if and when that happens,
that's really the determining factor.
Is he ever gonna do anything? And then
you're right. He can talk about seed oils,

(26:21):
but he might be told not to talk
about this, that, or the other thing.
Lot of Kennedys have been bumped off.
That's a scary
thing.
But the government of Mexico,
I found this very interesting,
apparently begged its cartels to please put their
profits in the national banks
because, otherwise, there would be no Mexico.

(26:45):
Right. You do talk about that a good
amount and just really how
interconnected everything is because
these cartels and these black markets, it all
does go back quite far and it is
all integrated. There's kind of a love triangle
between the cartels, the Mexican government, and even
the US government. You mentioned that if the

(27:06):
drug
business vanished, the US economy would shrink 19
to 22%, and the Mexican economy would shrink
63%,
and
those numbers are pretty staggering. I've even heard
Catherine Austin Fitz talk about how in the
US,
all the way down to the street level,

(27:26):
drug trafficking is oftentimes the only
money flowing through poor inner city communities,
and it ends up propping up mom and
pop restaurants or barbershops or whatever local community
there is because the only people who have
the money to spend in the community is
people selling drugs. Even the corporate chains would
probably close a few locations if that drug

(27:47):
money wasn't circulating through those neighborhoods.
So it is just interesting to think about
the domino effect of it all. We do
have a president who's saying
we should call the cartels a terrorist organization
and use the full weight of the military.
Now that could just
be the idea
that military contractors came up with trying to

(28:09):
find a new
conflict to spend the big budget on and
to justify an even bigger budget. But, yeah,
everything is really integrated, and
it seems like both economies would suffer greatly
if something was actually done about the drug
trade.
Greg, I read a fantastic
book, and I ordered so many copies of

(28:29):
it.
I really want people to read this book.
It's in my store, avatar products.com,
and it's called Down by the River.
It's by a very, very
amazing writer. Every
line he writes is fantastic
to the ear. Alright.
So his name is Charles Bowden, and this

(28:50):
book is Down by the River. And everyone
who lives in America and
who lives in Mexico should really read this
book. Down by the River, Charles Boden. So
it was written in 2002,
and it's about the West Texas border town
of El Paso,
which faces
the city of Juarez

(29:11):
in the state of Chihuahua,
and the Rio Grande kind of flows between
the two cities.
And
El Paso Juarez
is an interface
that is
very interesting and really kind of replicates
this relationship
between America and Mexico.

(29:32):
Somebody I know who lived in El Paso
for many years told me it's not even
America.
It is a crazy place.
And Juarez is even worse.
Okay?
It is so poor.
And all these people in Mexico, these young,
able people, they filter into the cities of
Mexico looking for work, and there's no work.

(29:55):
The Mexican
economy
has really been destroyed by a series of,
we'll put in quotes, presidents.
And I go through that in this particular
newsletter,
and Boden goes through that in the book.
But he writes, and it was kind of
shocking for me to read this and consider
it, that

(30:15):
the drug merchants
in Mexico
are really the most honest players
in the land. And these people who come
into the cities and look for work and
they don't find work, well, there are drugs.
There's drugs that you can run even though
there's no work.
So they take on
whatever

(30:36):
tasks they have within the cartels as farriers
or god knows what. I don't know how
it all works.
But
these
drug merchants,
vicious, greedy, murderous
as they are,
they employ people based on their talents. They're
not concerned with sex, race, class, color, religion.

(30:57):
And they are also, Boden writes, one of
the few industries in the developing sectors of
the earth that really do redistribute
income. And this is what you just said.
They do so at a level without parallel.
Okay.
Money is dispersed
among people who really need it, but it
is a drug industry that they're participating

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in. This is way more money than in
these sweatshops
where they have to stitch
garments
for people to buy from Target and Walmart
on the other side of the border.
So drugs as a major part of the
economy of Mexico and America,
put money directly in the hands of the
poor who need it, and they can't get

(31:40):
it in any other kind of job sector.
Yeah. It's a little strange
how it's kinda got a little bit of
a Robin Hood effect, you could say.
Yes.
Exactly.
So
if you take away
and Boden wrote this book in the early
2000. Alright? So Juarez,

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I read in my newsletter,
decorated by mudhuts and raw sewage,
is looking
across the river at a first world economy.
And that's really how the world is. There's
a separation
between
very poor brown skinned people
who toil away
and do whatever they can to be like

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the much richer white skinned people on the
other side of the tracks.
So
I am actually continuing this discussion in my
current newsletter, but you asked what's gonna happen.
Are there well intentioned people who are coming
into political office now, and are they gonna
make a change in the country?
Look.
I don't know. I don't have a crystal

(32:44):
ball.
We hope,
but
we could get metaphysical about this.
I don't know if we should. We should.
Really? Okay.
What do you mean by getting metaphysical about
this?
Alright. So
how do I say this?
I think we live in a dimension that

(33:04):
is always going to booby trap us and
oppress us. And it's really about
how we meet
these booby traps and how we meet these
constant
challenges.
Now, you know,
if you look at a sparrow, I always
observe
small creatures.
I live on a canyon, and these creatures
are constantly

(33:26):
flittering about. They're frightened a lot of the
time. They're always looking over their shoulders. You
make the slightest move, and they will hop
off or fly off or whatever. And that's
kind of how we are in our lives,
but we want to be propped up by
the state. We expect
that our economy and our integration
into this system,

(33:47):
when we turn the tap, the water should
flow.
When we flip the light switch, we should
have light. I mean, what would it be
like? I bought a book that is about
the history of light and how people had
to dip candles and how smelly they were
and how laborious it was to make a
candle out of beef tallow.
And here we waltz into our room. We

(34:09):
just hit the switch and there's power. And
then we complain that the utility company is
charging us so much for the bill. You
know?
But would we like to dip candles?
Would we like to save our beef fat?
We don't think in those terms anymore. We
don't think how much time
and how much labor and energy and planning

(34:31):
it took
to survive.
You know? Right. Even travel too. Like, it'd
be really hard for a person
a few 100 years ago to grow up
in Missouri, move to California, and then move
to Florida, yet I took it for granted
that it was quite easy to do.
Yeah. Because you had
U Haul, and

(34:51):
you had a plan you could visit first.
I mean, think how long it took.
When I was a little girl in the
5th grade, we had an assignment.
It was a class assignment. We got to
make a giant mural
for the hallway of the school, and everybody
had
a piece of American history, I think it
was,

(35:13):
and a part of the mural to put
a
painting or drawing on.
And my part of the mural was the
far end, and I decided I don't know
what the actual topic was that I was
given, but my part was the picture of
a covered wagon,
and it said on it California
or bus.

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And that's where I've ended up.
Yeah.
I mean, it is crazy when you think
about all the modern conveniences
we have and the complaints that we have
as well. There's a Louis c k bid,
I believe, or maybe it was Bill Burr
where he talks about complaining about
cell phones not working, and it's like, give
it a second. It's going to space and

(35:54):
back. You know, like, these things, I mean
and who knows if that's even true? But
the point still stands that there's a lot
of complex technology
that
we complain about when it doesn't work 100%
of the time, even though it might be
killing us. But let's get back to the
metaphysical thing and the idea of what is
this realm. People use the term prison planet.

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People
say we live in a hell dimension. It's
just kind of
masked a little bit. If anyone saw that
show, The Good Place, spoiler alert,
that is sort of what it is,
is that you don't know you're in hell
because
the things are only slightly inconveniencing,
but all the time, and it stacks up,

(36:34):
and you're like, man, what is happening here?
And I guess that's kinda what you're getting
at is that this realm, this planet,
it seems designed
to
keep us down to
have this predator prey relationship, maybe. Some people
say it's a human energy farm
for transdimensional

(36:55):
intelligences.
I don't know, but that's what you mean
by metaphysical. Right? It's probably not that the
new administration is gonna save the day because
no one saves the day here.
No one saves the day. Listen.
We can improve our own course
through the day,
But I'm going to segue, and you're not
prepared. So you're gonna have to fly by

(37:15):
the seat of your pants.
I'm ready. So I wrote a newsletter in
February 2022.
I don't know what it was called, but
it was
about a book called Proof of Heaven
by Eben Alexander. Have you ever heard of
this guy?
The name of the book sounds familiar.
Alright. So
my YouTube feed

(37:37):
led me to a talk that was given
in a church in Minnesota.
It was by doctor Evan Alexander,
who was a
nonbeliever.
He was a Harvard
trained
neurosurgeon,
and he worked at some, you know, swanky
hospital in Virginia. And he woke up one
morning, and he didn't feel well. And this

(37:59):
is very unusual for him. So he told
his wife he wanted to stay in bed
a little longer, and his condition got worse
within
the hour, and he ended up having to
be taken to the ER.
And
he says in his book that
he
apparently had this horrible bacterial meningitis.

(38:19):
He said, I slipped into grand mal seizures
and was rushed off to the emergency room
where a very astute physician realized I might
have meningitis, did a lumbar puncture. And when
the fluid surrounding brain and spinal cord came
out of my back, it was thick white
pus under pressure.
The doctor later told me that when she
saw that, she knew I was dead.

(38:40):
I was put on 3 very powerful antibiotics,
and by the end of the week, they
had tripled
beyond the maximum dose, one of those antibiotics
trying to turn me around. I was down
to a 2%
chance of survival.
Alright. So
even Alexander was in a coma for a
week,
and he was surrounded by all his friends
because he was in a hospital that he

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worked at.
And
it turns out that during this week,
he went on this incredible journey,
and he went to all these realms. I'm
getting terrible chills while I'm saying this.
So what what do chills mean, Greg?
People everywhere tell me if you get chills
like that, it means it's true.

(39:23):
Right?
Sure.
Okay.
So
he says
that
he lay unconscious. Right? And he I write
in my newsletter, doctor Alexander had been a
hard science type all his life with no
belief in heaven or God and very little
understanding of what is consciousness

(39:44):
as neurosurgeons
operate only on the gelatinous
brain itself.
Neurosurgeons
don't know much about consciousness.
So, anyway,
all I knew, he says, when I came
back to this world
7 days later, was this brilliant, incredible, ultra
real spiritual journey I had been on deep

(40:04):
in coma.
Now the me before would have told you
that such an illness, given that kind of
severe bacterial meningitis, is the perfect model for
human death. In fact, it's so perfect that
nobody practically ever comes back to tell the
tale. Given the destruction of my brain that
was apparent to my doctors through my neurologic

(40:25):
exams and scans and lab values, I should
have had no experience at all while comatose.
But he had an amazing journey, Greg.
And he talks about how
we really are
connected
into all these other realm. So I'm gonna
say something that I thought of last night.
I've never thought of this before.

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And it was in the middle of the
night and I'm going, my god, I need
to write this down. I'm never gonna remember
this, But you, Greg, in this interview have
churned it up again.
So we have the 3 dimensions
of our
world.
Dimension 2 is
a flat surface, and dimension 3 is if

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you do geometry x, y, and the z
axis. So the first dimension would be just
a dot. 2nd dimension would be
width and length, and the third dimension would
be depth. But the minute you add movement,
you're in another dimension.
And movement that comes from life
is yet another dimension. Right?

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And then there's intention.
There's
realms of possibility.
Will this
entity in this
space,
will it go here? Will it go there?
Will it do this? Will it do that?
Is it doing it intentionally? Is it doing
it because it's been influenced by other
forces and factors? So now we're entering into

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what's called multidimensionality,
realms of possibility.
And realms of possibility
unfold
our lives. I don't know if that's grammatical,
but you know what I'm saying?
You could have never left California. You could
have never left Missouri. You could have gone
to Georgia instead of Florida. And there are

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all these possibilities,
but your intention
took you.
You were a factor in your own movement.
So
Alexander says that
the brain is
a collapsing
device.
The place he went was I mean, he
rode on a butterfly wing with a beautiful

(42:33):
girl.
You can't come back as a neurosurgeon
and start babbling about this.
And his pals at the hospital told him,
this is a trick of the brain. You
were never in any beautiful realm. There weren't
angels singing. I mean, all this music and
stuff. So this was he had an afterlife
experience,

(42:53):
and it was so powerful that it caused
him to stop his neurosurgery
altogether,
trying to explain
and explore
this thing called consciousness.
So if you read the book, and I
think it's also very worth reading,
they're diametrically
opposed down by the river, Charles Boden,

(43:14):
about the cartels
and then this. Right?
And
he connected with what he calls
the great Aum,
a u m.
And he calls it Aum because he doesn't
wanna call it god because that's too conventional
a word.
So
Aum is
writes

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I'm referring to what some might call God.
Others might call Allah, Brahmin, Vishnu, Jehovah, Yahweh.
I don't care what the words are. The
words get in the way. They make it
look like it's an intellectual discussion.
High school, college debate. It's not. That world
is absolutely
real.
And he says that

(43:56):
now I'm gonna say this because I think
it's very interesting.
Right before he got into that world, Greg
so the first place he went in his
coma
was this horrible,
horrible,
dark space,
and he said he was caught in it.
And
he was terrified by it. He said it
was a claustrophobic

(44:17):
muddy underworld that echoed with, and I'm gonna
quote him, a deep rhythmic pounding like the
sound of metal against metal as if a
giant subterranean
blacksmith was pounding an anvil somewhere,
pounding it so hard that the sound vibrates
through the earth or the mud that he
was in or wherever it is that you
are. I didn't have a body. I was

(44:37):
simply there in this place of pulsing, pounding
darkness.
The longer I stayed in this place, the
less comfortable I became feeling like I wasn't
really part of this subterranean world at all,
but trapped in it.
Grotesque animal faces bubbled out of the muck,
groaned and screeched, and then were gone again.

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I heard an occasional dull roar. Sometimes those
roars change to dim rhythmic chants,
chants that were both terrifying and weirdly familiar
as if at some point I'd known and
uttered them myself.
The more the faces that bubbled up out
of that darkness became ugly and threatening, the

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rhythmic pounding off in the distance sharpened and
intensified as well became the work beat for
some army of troll like underground laborers performing
some endless brutally monotonous tasks. The movement around
me was as if reptilian
worm like creatures were crowding past, occasionally rubbing
up against me with their smooth or spiky

(45:41):
skims.
So what would you call this?
Hell?
Right?
I mean, he's in it. He's trapped. It's
dark. He hears droning,
moaning,
like other people being trapped. He hears pounding,
and then these reptilian things are swishing past
him, touching him.

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So
he said it had this
dank
smell of biological
death.
Garros. Right? And he stuck there.
And then the darkness began to break as
a pure white light descended, obliterating the pounding,
spinning around and around and generating filaments,

(46:23):
tinged with gold.
And so
it pulled him out of there. And then
he found Greg this. What's very interesting
that he could
leave through this channel of light, and he
could come back.
And he could leave, and he could come
back.
And he was in control.

(46:45):
So what
am I gonna say something? Well, yeah, it's
a really interesting story. I'm trying to stay
quiet when you're talking because you're not wearing
a headset, and I do hear myself coming
through sometimes, and I don't wanna talk over
you.
But yeah. Obviously, it's a fascinating story. I'm
the first one to love a story like
that.
How literal do you take that, or what

(47:06):
insights do you extract from that?
So I call this the iconic underworld,
and
I think it's a bordering dimension
to
what we're in right now,
and I think the bad guys
pull from it.
I think they're CERN,

(47:26):
Hadron Collider.
When they look for God, they're going into
this area, this place, and they're pulling energy
from it. And they've mixed this energy in
with our world and our cultures
and our thinking.
And they're succeeding
because we don't realize
that
we are beyond all this, and we can

(47:49):
do what Alexander did. We can go up
that filigree
light channel
and
interact with that higher realm as much as
we want.
But we can't, he says, because
our brain
is controlling us.
I've taken a talk

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that he did
at the annual conference of the International Association
of NDEs,
Near Death Experiences.
He says
that this world is a murky
little shadow world,
that world
through the light.
And I haven't described much of what he

(48:30):
encountered there, but it was beautiful music in
all different realms, and the great aunt was
there, and there's butterflies and whatnot, you know,
beautiful things. And this is
universal
throughout different cultures.
People who have NDEs,
they see this stuff.
They experience this stuff.
Right. I've heard a lot of those stories,

(48:52):
and something else I think is interesting that
I wanna slide in here just to connect
it back to modern
conveniences a little bit,
it's interesting
how many modern conveniences
have a kind of a
darkness to them.
You could even say the water pipes we
take for granted. Well, it's also a fluoride

(49:13):
distribution network, and it's a distribution network to
give toxic water to people.
You could talk about the power grid. Sure.
We have lights. Great. Well, if you've read
the invisible rainbow,
the whole electrification of the Earth might be
responsible for a lot of sickness, including the
flu season, oddly enough.
And then you have all these people who

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are inventors
or have come up with some kind of
technology,
and
even though it's something that is a convenience
to people, it always has a dark edge.
Even the WiFi, you know, the WiFi router.
People are like, oh, I'm so glad I
can connect
without the wires. And then it's like, yeah.
Now your circadian rhythm is messed up. Your

(49:56):
mitochondrial
DNA is damaged.
To bring up another neurosurgeon,
Jack Crews, I saw you posted a presentation
that he did, and he talks about how
blue light makes us fat. It's causing the
dysregulation of our bodies and damaging the mitochondria.
He's always big on that. Super interesting guy.
And
he has talked about all the patents on

(50:17):
the digital screens, the ones we're using right
now, that
they were engineered
for maximum
damage and mind control because of the mental
states
that the blue light from these screens puts
us in. He's talked about how they could've
built them several different ways, but they used
the insights from MK Ultra and other things

(50:37):
to
make them as damaging as possible without anyone
really noticing.
And he was in deep talks with RFK
Junior and Nicole Shanahan. I mean, she was
chosen as the running mate because she was
hip to this from her marriage with Google
cofounder
Sergey Brin.
And it gets scary.
It seems like all this technology

(50:57):
is intentionally
weaponized. And just while we're still in this
first hour here, I wanted to slide in
a quote from a totally
unrelated thing you wrote about friendships
versus bot ships where we're seeing more and
more people in this lonely reality
go to AI and bots for companionship.

(51:18):
And you said this, Geoffrey Hinton and George
Bole
and a few human genius types in between
can be credited with the creation of AI,
which has not yet reached its apotheosis.
Hinton, a British computer scientist,
is the great grandson of Bohl
who was a self taught logician and mathematician

(51:39):
born in the early 1800.
Bohl had a mystical experience at the age
of 17
that spurred him to figure out for mankind
the mathematics of human reasoning and thought. He
almost got there giving us an investigation
of the laws of thought and his own
system of symbiotic
logic based on a yes no on off
methodology.

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90 years later, Claude Shannon, a graduate student
at MIT, applied his two value approach to
electronics and the information age was born.
So
I've done other interviews about aspects of technology,
the transistor.
It always seems to come with this trickster
aspect to it, or iconic aspect to it,
or demonic aspect to it, where it's like

(52:21):
here's
a gift,
but a gift with a twist that will
slowly kill you. And
it's just weird that even in this context,
I read that because you're talking about the
information age and some of its foundations, and
this guy had a mystical experience at 17.
I'd like to know more about that. Did
he tap into this iconic underworld and get

(52:42):
some insight that ended up putting us on
this dark path? Hard to say, but do
you know much more about his mystical experience?
I looked to see
if I could find anything about it, and
it's referred to, but I searched for quite
a while. I didn't find any details. I
mean, he was very young,
so maybe people didn't believe him. Maybe he

(53:02):
never wrote it down. Who knows? But it
triggered. Right? So this is what
Alexander tells us. He says that
consciousness is not created by the brain. So
I'm going back to the dimensions. We are
multidimensional.
We have intention, will. We have this thing
called consciousness, which apparently can travel us into

(53:22):
these realms with angels and harps and whatnot,
and we can meet the great awe if
we want to. Right?
So he says that
if you believe the brain is creating consciousness,
the only thing that would be going on
is chemical reactions, physics, chemistry, biology, all those
laws being followed by the molecules in your
brain
and all simply chemical reactions.

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Free will and consciousness would be considered illusions
of those chemical reactions.
But my journey showed me the exact opposite
is the case.
So he says, Greg, that we are conscious
in spite of our brain. Our brain is
there to act as a reducing valve or
filter.
Because if we had all of consciousness at
our fingertips all the time, we would be

(54:06):
overwhelmed,
and we would never get anything done. We
would never make our beds
and brush our teeth and do this linear
stuff. And, I mean, I think these guys
pull technology,
but they are
pairing
themselves with this iconic underworld. A lot of
these people who invent these things. I mean,
there are purists who are inventors. Like, we

(54:28):
could take Tesla as an example.
And then the fiends descend on the purists
and take their work and channel it into
their own
markets
with their own programs and agendas.
So
if you had consciousness
at your disposal,
I wrote, you would never be fascinated by

(54:51):
the polychrome
sewage of your cell phone.
So he says, Alexander,
during the brain based physical portion of our
existence, and that's what you're talking about. All
this technology is brain based.
It's linear.
It's very complex. It's so complex that for
people like us who aren't schooled in it,

(55:12):
it seems abstract. It seems spatial. We cannot
hold all these details in our brains.
And I was talking to a physicist engineer
yesterday, and he was explaining something about capacitors
to me. I could barely understand it, and
yet it's very, very linear for him.
So our brain blocks out or veils that
larger cosmic background

(55:33):
just as the sun's light blocks the stars.
We can only see what our brain's filter
allows.
Okay? The brain,
particularly its left side linguistic logical part that
which generates our sense of rationality
and the feeling of being a sharply defined
ego or self is a barrier to our
higher knowledge or experience.

(55:56):
So how much of our waking life do
you consider to be somewhat
manufactured or
limited down by our brain? You started talking
kind of about the wide range of dimensions
and possibility and that the brain reduces and
collapses us down to the one reality, the
shared reality

(56:17):
that we're in. But how intertwined is the
iconic
underworld
and these potentially even positive realms that we
just don't even know are there?
Alright. So this is what I wrote in
my newsletter. This was my February 2022
newsletter.
Okay. So I finally started to get it.
If my brain is a collapser,

(56:37):
a filter, something that shrinks down the eternal
vastness and light and brilliance of the core
of all
so that I can retain my senses and
function here. See, it's all about functionality.
You wouldn't function.
You would be tripping out all the time.
So
the brain allows you to function here.

(57:00):
Then I wrote, how it does this rendering
must be something that my own particular
logic
slash ego slash self has a role in
designing.
I should spend less time rationalizing
down
into functionality and more time stretching up towards
the divine.
Doctor Alexander

(57:21):
points out that we should not have to
rely on a catastrophic health event to bring
us to the edge of death to gain
this understanding.
So I wrote, why not just fortify
your divinity?
And that is up to you how you
choose to do that.
These dark
individuals
are not fortifying their divinity.

(57:41):
The Apples and the Googles
are not fortifying their divinity. They're pulling our
conic stuff,
and they're introducing it to you.
And they're enthralling you and entrancing you with
it.
So
that's where I am. That that phrase, fortify
your divinity,
that is up to you. I like it.

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And do you think this is a conscious
relationship
between
the inventors of Silicon Valley, the makers of
all this technology,
and the something else, the iconic underworld.
Well, they definitely
like to play with it. I mean, if
you've ever read about
Jack Parsons,

(58:22):
is that his name, and the stuff that
was going on
in his labs and how attuned they tried
to be to that iconic place. Even Alexander
doesn't call it the iconic underworld. That's my
word for it after reading about it. I'm
going, my gosh, this slime,
This is where they're pulling energy from and
add mixing it with our world,

(58:44):
and we're falling
prey to it. We're sitting ducks because we're
not fortifying our divinity enough,
dude.
Right on, sister.
So what should we do?
That is the question.
The people who are really concerned
about CERN

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think that they could be doing something there
that would break reality, and it would cause
these
two places to be so intertwined that you
couldn't separate them out again. The people who
are worried about the COVID shots, for example,
would say that
the gene pool and the DNA of humanity
has been completely

(59:25):
altered and it won't go back.
So some of these people are working on
things that have serious consequences
that can't really be
unraveled, and I do think that's a huge
concern.
Greg,
I almost dare not mention this because
I started to carry sulfur in my store,

(59:47):
MSM, methylsulfonylmethane
sulfur.
Methylsulfonylmethane
is known as MSM sulfur, sometimes called organic
sulfur, and it only is called organic because
it contains a carbon atom,
2 in fat.
So here's the thing.
Our soil is messed up.

(01:00:08):
The iconic underworld
relationship
that you know, the American government
paid growers in the 19 fifties
to start using chemical pesticides and fertilizers.
Why? Because those were post war industries that
didn't have any place to go
or goods to sell.
So our soil has become so deeply eroded

(01:00:30):
and wrecked by the presence of all these
chemical
that we don't get the elements that we
need. Those elements being iodine, magnesium,
sulfur,
very basic stuff. You can look at these
elements in the periodic table.
But the sulfur cycle of the Earth has
been interrupted, and I write this in a
flyer that goes out with every order of

(01:00:51):
sulfur.
But one of the things that
sulfur does is it's a chelating agent. So
I have strung a few dots together. This
is my own theory
that
these vaxxes have a lot of
heavy metals in them.
And the metals, according to Anna Meholtia,
who's done a lot of research on this,
the metals

(01:01:11):
provide the conductive
medium
that is necessary because it facilitates
bioelectricity,
piezo electricity
within the body,
and these
undisclosed ingredients that are nanotechnological
in nature that are said to be replicating

(01:01:32):
and making more of themselves and creating systems
and devices within us.
Those things cannot
manufacture
themselves without conductivity in the bloodstream, which is
provided by the metals.
So sulfur chelates or removes the metal. So
the more you remove the metallic content

(01:01:53):
of your bloodstream, the less of a chance
you give this stuff to generate.
So that's one reason why I think it's
so important
to be using sulfur on a daily basis
because it is no longer in the soil.
And the plants aren't getting it. They're not
able to store it. It was plants that
gave us sulfur because they store it and

(01:02:14):
gave the animals. It's very important for mammalian
metabolism.
So you say there's no recourse, but there
are these recourses. These are things that you
have to really dig to find, and then
you have to try them, and you have
to see how well they work. But we
are experimental
victims
in this very oppressive realm. That doesn't mean

(01:02:36):
that we're going to all die and have
a terrible time.
But I can't see ways to completely turn
this around and make it a paradise,
which is what a lot of people talk
about. Oh, this could be a paradise. I
don't think it was ever a paradise.
I see what you're saying. Yeah. It seems
like
just look at any era,

(01:02:57):
and it seems as if there is a
1% of some kind that is enslaving
all the people
in a given space,
and that goes back
to the beginning of history as far as
we know. And it might even go back
to the origins of people because so many
talk about
gold and us being

(01:03:19):
invented or strongly engineered and encouraged to mine
gold, and that's why we're obsessed with gold
and the conquistadors
were obsessed with gold and all this kind
of stuff. I mean, who really knows?
But, definitely,
the system is built on
the exploitation
of
many by a few.
Yeah. And we

(01:03:41):
we walk right into that. We are herd
animals, and I don't think we know the
difference between
following and being exploited.
I mean, when a leader shows up and
says, I will lead you.
I'm just speaking very loosely. People go, yes,
lovely.
Do that.
We'll follow you. But then

(01:04:02):
that turns into exploitation
and it's just so natural
for human beings to follow a leader that
they don't seem to be able to do
much with the exploitation.
I agree with that as well. It almost
seems like we've been engineered that way or
it's a part of the superstructure
that is this dimension.

(01:04:23):
People say it's a human energy farm, that
the reason why there's so much cultivated negative
energy is because there's something else feeding on
that.
Right. That's that relationship with the arkonic underworld.
So
as we're kinda circling around the 2 hour
mark, I wanted to make sure we do

(01:04:44):
save time to
re mention your products in the avatar store
because this is the part where everybody, 1st
and second hour people, would hear it. Tell
them about some of the new additions, the
keyboard grounding pad, the RF modem router guard,
sulfur, iodine, magnesium,
ion.

(01:05:05):
Okay. So listen.
I've tried nicely, and I've tried in a
harsh
punitive way to tell people to go on
Ethernet. Why are your computers stop sleeping with
that router pinging all night in the next
room?
And people don't do it. So
there's a router guard.
It's a low tech, no brainer. It's silver

(01:05:28):
mesh. It's a bag. You drop it over
your router. It has a drawstring.
It will cut the signal.
I've come across one person
with a router whose signal that just doesn't
cut. I don't know what to do about
that guy's router. I don't I told him,
just get another one. Get another router. And
it cuts the signal, but the Wi Fi
still works. It's just weakened.

(01:05:49):
Absolutely. The radiation is lowered by 30 to
80%.
The Wi Fi still works. And if you
wanna
increase the Wi Fi signal, let's just say
you pull the bag tight, it's a drawstring.
I mean, how low tech can you get?
You open the drawstring
a little bit and boom, you get more
signal. So at night, you could tighten the
string

(01:06:10):
and you don't get irradiated as much. So
anyway, that's a good thing. Then there's sulfur.
I've sold a lot of sulfur
in the last couple of months, and I
dread another avalanche of sulfur orders, but I'm
happy to send it around. It's just tremendous.
Someday we should do a show on sulfur
if I cross your path again.

(01:06:31):
Of course, you would.
Hopefully, I will. Then there's Wiley's
wash soap,
laundry powder, and you can scrub your counters
with it.
The soap bars,
they're on the sun and skin page. My
friend makes them. He's a tremendous soap maker.
He left a 6 figure corporate job to
make soap.
He's tremendous.

(01:06:52):
Very, very amazing soap bars.
They last longer than other soaps. Men can
wash their hair, shave with this. He has,
like,
all different kinds of soaps, and I have
the grab bag.
I buy different kinds from him, and for
a little bit less, I will pick the
cars for you. Most people love everything.
He even has, you know,

(01:07:13):
pine tar, gum turpentine.
These come from the resin of pine trees.
People think turpentine is an industrial solvent, but
it's not. It's from the pine tree.
So,
anyway, that's the story of Avatar Products,
and
I appreciate anyone who buys from me. I
usually end up sometimes when I have to

(01:07:34):
have communication with a customer, I meet somebody
really fantastic.
My customers are wonderful people.
You guys, wonderful people.
I like it. And of course, people can
get the newsletter by going to your website
about the sky.com.
They can follow through
the links there,
but

(01:07:55):
it's great to talk to you again.
I apologize that it's been so long. I
mean, I don't think anybody that I talk
to now can say that we started in
2013
going back to the 60th show ever recorded.
So to me, that is a big deal,
and
I just appreciate what you do. You are
a legend in the space.

(01:08:15):
If I think about the last one we
did, it was
2021,
and it was largely about terrain theory. And
I think around that
time, I was just a little
sick of the health stuff because it dominated
so much
of the COVID chapter,
and you've got a new

(01:08:35):
level,
a new roster of people
like doctor Andy Wakefield
and
Malone
and a lot of these doctors,
Jessica Rose, who were doing the rounds on
podcast.
And I was just like, man, I need
some other topics besides health. It can't be
all health shows all the time. So I

(01:08:56):
think that's probably how the gap started,
and then, you know, life just gets in
the way. But I'm glad we could do
it again. No. I'm very happy because people
wrote to me and said, why aren't you
on higher side chats? I said, I tried
to email him and he doesn't respond. So
maybe that's why didn't know. But, Greg, I
just wanna blow your mind here. Please do.
So we talked about cartels at the beginning

(01:09:17):
of this show. Right? And I read that
book by Charles Bowden, who actually
ventured into Mexico and met with some of
these nefarious characters and heard these terrible stories.
And the book is a thick book. He
spent years researching this book.
And then I opened my favorite Harper's Magazine,

(01:09:37):
and I don't read these magazines
in sequence. So I have, like, a pile
of Harper's. I just pick 1 and start
reading it. And this is July 2023.
It's a book review.
And here's the book title.
Drunk cartels do not exist,
but Oswaldo
Zavala,
played it by William Savinor, Vanderbilt University Press,

(01:10:01):
206 pages, 3495.
Wow.
There are people in Mexico, and these are
people who have their feet on the ground,
who've had family members killed,
dismembered, hanging from bridges, that kind of thing.
Right?
And they say drug cartels do not exist.
You know who it is according to them?

(01:10:21):
The police and politicians.
So I was reading this thinking, oh my
god. Here's one guy who says drug cartels,
you know, and everyone. All these people talking
about cartels. We have movies about them. And
then comes this guy who writes a book.
It doesn't exist.
So that's the beauty of our world.

(01:10:44):
Well, I definitely think the dividing line between
cartels
and police and government and all that, it's,
more blurred than ever for sure. Maybe it
always was, which is the argument he's presenting,
it seems.
Yeah. So I'm gonna send you this article,
and you can read it. It's a book
review. I appreciate that.

(01:11:06):
Well,
again, thank you for your time. Thank you
for all the great work you do for
sending me the newsletters,
and I'm glad that we could talk about
some off the radar stuff today.
I'm glad that my avocado
blood money
quota has been filled for
episode topics.

(01:11:27):
Good. You can take a rest now.
Indeed.
Alright. Well, enjoy the rest of your day.
Enjoy
luxurious
California
like I once did, and take care.
Thank you. Goodbye, everyone.
Alright. Sophia Smallstorm back in the hot seat.

(01:11:49):
It has been a long time. Obviously, we
talked about that, but she is great. I
don't have a good reason as to why
it's been so long. I think maybe with
our last one being during the COVID aftermath
and her being such a health focused guest,
maybe I just wanted to lay all that
down for a bit, but she's obviously versatile.

(01:12:10):
And she's one of those few people that
I think of as really embodying the best
parts of the Californian
archetype.
I am familiar with the community she lives
in. It's a little bit small. It's off
the radar. Local business supporting,
Corporate
chain rejecting.
High quality food and products, and homelessness is

(01:12:32):
not a problem, and there's walkable everything.
It's a dream, really.
It's the California you see in the movies,
but it's not the California talked about on
the news.
I can say having moved that, yeah, there's
a lot of political freedom
in Florida
contrasted to California,
but it's also kind of a food desert.

(01:12:52):
It's hard to find organic food here. It's
hard to find locally
grown organic for sure.
It's not something that the culture here really
respects or prioritizes,
and it's been a bit of a problem.
It's a huge contrast.
And one of the main things I miss
about that Californian culture,
the farmers markets,

(01:13:12):
the acknowledgments
of how important it is to let money
flow within the community, all that kind of
stuff.
But her and I are just in different
stages of life. For someone starting a young
family in the 20 twenties
with the prices in areas like hers already
well out of reach,
it just isn't gonna work. So I will

(01:13:33):
take a little gentle ribbing about leaving, but
there's plenty I miss and also plenty I
don't.
However, I was thinking more about the cartels
and avocados, and I do find it to
be an interesting story
along with just how dependent the whole nation
well, theirs and ours, I guess. Both nations
are dependent on the drug trade.

(01:13:55):
And for the cartels,
strategically, yes. Use the extra cash to compromise
other markets that are easier to be legitimized
in.
Obviously, pretty smart of them, but it's really
not much different than, say, the jaquita banana
story, you know, the Banana Republic term, the
whole thing of lobbying to use

(01:14:15):
the might of the military,
or the CIA, to compromise growing areas for
these corporations,
to stage coups, to get these leaders
in the third world, in the tropical areas,
to be
basically just puppets for one of our corporations?
It happens all the time. And, of course,
we like our gangsterism to be civilized.

(01:14:38):
But it's not all that different than what
the cartels do, and I'm sure this is
part of the argument that cartels make all
the time to justify
their actions.
But, yes, another example of me just kinda
booking
guests without paying much attention to the dates
and what's going on in the world.
And I'm sure this would have been a

(01:14:59):
bit more current and relevant if we had
recorded right after the inauguration
instead of days before.
Maybe it's better because then we can't just
talk about all the other things that other
shows are talking about, but, clearly, a lot
has happened.
And I think a good chunk of the
country
just wants action.
I saw some statistics lately that young people

(01:15:20):
in the US and Europe are way more
willing to accept dictatorship,
and it was presented as a very scary
thing to see in our youth and right.
Yeah. I don't want dictatorship either.
But to play devil's advocate for them, anyone
under 40 has just seen election after election
where we get all these empty promises and
then, oops, congress is gridlocked.

(01:15:40):
Nobody will work with anybody. Here comes another
filibuster. Here's another 55%
vote when 68% is required.
It's always the excuse. Right?
So when I see a stat like that,
I just think that younger people in particular
are like,
fine. I guess I'm okay with moving that
direction because it seems like the only way

(01:16:01):
to do anything.
And so Trump signed over a 100 executive
orders so far in 11 days and undid,
like, 70 of Biden's.
And, look, you'd have to go through each
one and decide how you feel about it,
but I see both the excitement over just
getting to fucking work
and the concerns
over, hey.

(01:16:21):
What happened to going through the appropriate channels
for some of this stuff?
Do we really wanna set a precedent of
government by decree?
And even for the Trump fans, fine. You
like the guy. Good. Well, he's only gonna
be in office for 4 years, and then
we've set a precedent for someone you might
not like.
It's difficult. Difficult nuanced stuff. But, of course,

(01:16:44):
we got a big announcement about project Stargate.
Such an esoterically
drenched name for basically a smart city AI
infrastructure
deal.
I'm sure we'll be talking about that for
years. And we got all this talk about
Doge and smaller government and eliminating all this
bloat. Great. Again. Sure.

(01:17:04):
But a lot of alternative people are saying
that what's actually happening is these positions are
being cleared out, so there's no resistance left
to these sweeping changes.
Many of which are not going to be
good.
And I think we gotta ask if we're
in the middle of an AI war already.
What's going on with these planes and these
collisions and these crashes? You know?

(01:17:26):
I think there's some real behind the curtain
kind of stuff going on, and we've talked
about the Talpiot program in the past. I
think something like that might be happening with
China too. I heard one journalist break it
down as that we might not know why
these planes crashed or collided until a few
years down the road
when China wants to take Taiwan or wants

(01:17:47):
to do something.
And they call the president and say, hey.
Remember those crashes? Wouldn't it be a shame
if that happened 100 of more times this
week?
Maybe you should focus on that and let
us do what we're doing, or take these
tariffs off, or whatever. Leverage is leverage.
I'm just curious if these computer systems are
compromised and this is just the tip of

(01:18:09):
the iceberg.
That would be my big concern. They can
make some planes collide today, but
what about this spilling into critical infrastructure, killing
the power or water in big cities?
I mean, we don't do any of our
own shit. You can criticize the tariff play,
but at this point, if you were given

(01:18:30):
the wheel, how do you incentivize people to
build stuff here? Because building stuff here is
the only way that we maybe get some
of the jobs back
and also control our own production.
If you want to reel back globalism
in a world dominated by financial incentives, then
you have to use some kind of financial

(01:18:50):
incentive to
move the needle back the other way. I
mean, who knows what's really going on behind
the scenes, but on the surface level, that
makes logical sense to me.
But so much is happening so fast. It's
hard to really keep track of and make
a proper assessment of before you're hit with
some next thing. But I can say I
don't trust the Tech bro administration, and I

(01:19:12):
think they might be grossly outplayed and out
of their depth.
But what are you gonna do?
Pay attention to the things you can control
and have the grace to ignore the rest
or something like that. I don't know. I
never went to AA, but that's the motto.
And we can say no to jabs, and
we can try to have our own backup
power and good local food supplies and unplug

(01:19:34):
from the Internet when we need it. And
then you just kinda gotta let the chips
fall where they may.
And that said, I did have a good
time today, though. Shouldn't wait so long next
time to check-in with Sofia. She really is
willing to go anywhere.
It took us a minute to get going,
but I think when we opened it up
towards the end of the first hour and
then into the second hour, we started cooking

(01:19:56):
with gas. We talked about grounding and electron
deficiency
and cellular repair,
corruption in the silver and gold markets, abusive
mining
of the Sarawico mountain,
and then we dared to mention Sandy Hook
and
what Sofia called the arkonic
nerve. I like that term that there's these

(01:20:17):
things that are just that level 11.
Don't go there. You're hitting the iconic nerve.
And we mentioned at least one other thing
that might
be such a nerve, but all good stuff.
The full 2 hour interview is always better
and deeper than just the first. So often
I hear from people, well, I never signed
up because I just felt the first hour

(01:20:38):
was enough. I felt like it was complete.
But that is why I tried to at
least bullet point a few of the topics
in the second hour, but it's always
deeper and better because we
get more comfortable as we go along.
Sometimes get a little more loose lipped, if
you know what I'm saying.
And we got almost 8 100 great interviews

(01:20:58):
in that archive for Plus members. Come on
in. The water's fine.
Use the link right at the top of
the show notes and see for yourself. And
Hire side news,
the big Hire Soup event is happening and
the details are ironed out. Gordon and I
are gonna be doing a free
live talk and hangout on March 8th at
High Springs Brewing in High Springs, Florida noonish

(01:21:20):
till about 5 PM.
Could we have sold tickets to this? Yeah.
Could we have called in some other people
and tried to make it a bigger thing,
maybe a multi day event? Oh, yeah. We
could have.
But I don't like seeing these big conferences
with these $2, $300
ticket prices.
It gets a little crazy, so we said,

(01:21:40):
whatever. We're gonna do a smaller thing.
What more do you need besides a card
table and me and Gordon having some topics
to talk about?
Some drinks, some company, and a good hang,
And why do you need to charge for
that?
So let's see what happens. We've never put
out a free event to the wider unpaid
audience before, so we really don't know what

(01:22:00):
kind of turnout to expect.
Usually, when we combine the tribes, we keep
it to members only so as to not
overwhelm
any business or coffee shop that we might
be
using
just to know we have a more managed
situation. Because when we did Austin, we didn't
charge either, but we only told our inner
circle.
And this time, we're just gonna go for

(01:22:22):
it. Life is short. Events like these are
rare.
Come join the fun. The guys at High
Springs are listeners, and you might recall me
calling out a few of their meetups in
the past.
So we're in good company, but it is
an out of the way place, not too
close to any major city.
And here in comes the second layer of
the event. We are renting a party bus

(01:22:43):
here in Tampa to drive us there and
back,
and that is open to you as well.
The bus is not free, though. It's $75.
Kinda sucks, but that is just the cost
of the bus divided by the seats on
it. So you can get yourself to High
Springs and hang out with both of us
and a bunch of like minded people
for free. Just have a good time.

(01:23:04):
Or you can hop on the bus with
us in Tampa,
and it is a 2 hour trip there.
And there is a bathroom on the bus,
and it's drink friendly, so we're gonna be
having some good pregame fun.
And then, of course, we will bring you
back in the evening.
The bus will be meeting in front of
the Tampa Theater, a
landmark that anyone in Tampa knows. And hot

(01:23:24):
tip,
Supernatural
is next door, and they make the best
breakfast sandwiches in the city. So I see
myself smoking a joint in the park across
the street, grabbing a coffee and a breakfast
sandwich and some beers for the road and
hopping on that bus and having a good
time with the people.
If you wanna go to the event, please
RSVP
on the event page at higher side meetups.com.

(01:23:46):
We just wanna have a decent idea of
how many people will show up,
and that's also where you will find the
link to secure a bus seat if you
wanna do that too.
Not bad to have a sober driver back
to the city. Right?
So I just had to let you guys
know about that. I'm glad we're able to
bring
High Springs Brewing some business since they are
kind of in the network and just good

(01:24:08):
people.
I guess you can call me the Dave
Portnoy of conspiracy podcast, and we're supporting local
businesses.
But I don't wanna get too ahead of
myself before we go over other things on
the meetup calendar. We gotta go over the
rating of the last episode. Andrew Collins, a
legend in the ancient hidden history
space, and I coulda called it with my

(01:24:28):
eyes closed. 4.7.
I expect no less. He is the man.
He can talk plasmas,
shamanism,
megalithic sites,
Anunnaki,
mystic religious relics, all sorts of great things,
and the overlap between all of them. I
love how he gives his take on the
foundation of a lot of religious myths and

(01:24:48):
tropes. I'm largely on that page.
We had a few people grumbling about
some comments he made about black holes.
Sure.
Be that as it may, great episode.
And, you know, sometimes
I listen to a guy like Andrew Collins,
and I start thinking about the D Wave
computer or

(01:25:08):
looking at, like, the shape of a server
farm,
and I consider the black cube and how
foundational it is to our religions, even the
cross being an unfolded cube.
What is this voice that people are picking
up and
is transmitting to the ark of the covenant.
I think about the cyclical nature of things
and stories of highly advanced Atlantis, and I

(01:25:31):
wonder if what was being worshiped or heard
was some sort of supercomputer
from Atlantis playing the role of God for
people who were just too far removed to
understand what it was or is if it's
still out there.
They say the truth is so shocking people
would not be able to handle it. And
when you consider how religious some people are

(01:25:51):
or how convinced they are of the alien
motif,
what if aliens and UFOs are aspects of
this super system that was built by ancient
humans?
Who knows? That's, probably something to save for
another time, but 4.7,
I love it.
So glad I got Andrew Collins to come
on. Truly honored. I hope I did him
justice.

(01:26:12):
And as for the rest of the meetup
calendar,
February is pretty active. February 3rd, Gale Braith's
Ale House in Auckland, New Zealand. Been calling
that one out for a minute. February 7th,
Bunks Bar in Portland, Oregon.
February 8th,
Greensville, Pennsylvania,
McCall Collective Tap House, February 8th as well.
3 Nations Brewing in Carlton, Texas.

(01:26:36):
February 10th, Santa Fe, New Mexico at Roots
and Leaves, February 15th,
Vlissingen,
the Netherlands, h two
booster.
And then, of course, it jumps to March
8th, High Springs Brewing,
and the Higher Soup
live talk and hang. I I say live
talk. I mean, I guess it's a live
podcast. We will be recording it for

(01:26:59):
a plus and premium member bonus,
but whatever. Come be part of it.
I'm sure
there will be a lengthy q and a
when we're done covering the topic that we
settled on.
But great. Well, that is the way the
cookie crumbles. Do check out Sofia's store and
blog. Sign up for her newsletter if you
want that inside scoop.

(01:27:19):
I respect so much how she's managed to
do her own thing, covering unique topics, every
newsletter,
and I'm lucky to know her.
But thanks for listening. I'm calling it in.
I've done my part.
Your move, Arconic agents, artificial life promoters, and
avocado cartels.
Your
fucking move. We're spiraling

(01:27:41):
down,
try to keep
composure.
So much to learn about
that needs exposure. She finds a story almost
any place.
I'm
story almost any place.
We're lucky
to have her

(01:28:02):
tracking every kiss.
She's a small store making big

(01:28:38):
Laying out more lies on a bed of
broken promise.
It's a rocky road.
Can't drive it straight through.
A letter come

(01:30:12):
hide.