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March 17, 2025 102 mins

Artist Jef Caine joins Paul Krauss MA LPC for a conversation about his life as he is currently living in a van and working out of Co-Hoots Phoenix. Jef elaborates on his own personal journey of separating from a partner of over 11 years and radically changing his life from working a 9-5pm to becoming a freelance artist. In a way Jef has continued to deconstruct his own life and personality, just as he unraveled his past from Evangelical Christianity. If you enjoy existential philosophy and authentic conversations, or maybe you are just curious about living out of a van, then this is the episode for you. Jef and Paul previously had a long-form discussion on Religious Trauma, Healthy Spirituality, and the Psychology of Deconstruction w/ Jef Caine [Episode 107]

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Phoenix-based illustrator and animator, Jef Caine is always striving to use his powers for good. Special interests include veganism, bike riding, and existential dread. Follow Jef on instagram. Follow Jef and the FauxtoBooth.

Original Music:

"Alright" from the forthcoming album Mystic by PAWL (Spotify)

"Wooly Mammoth’s Mighty Absence" from Dawn by Mount Eerie (Spotify)

"I Hold Nothing" from No Flashlight by Mount Eerie (Spotify

"Huge Fire" from Night Palace by Mount Eerie (Spotify

"Great Ghosts" from Dawn by Mount Eerie (Spotify)

"I Saw Another Bird" from Night Palace by Mount Eerie (Spotify

"Grave Robbers" from Lost Wisdom by Mount Eerie (Spotify

"Broom of the Wind" from Night Palace by Mount Eerie (Spotify

"No Wonder I" from Bucolic Gone by Lake (Spotify)

"Wonderful Sunlight" from Bucolic Gone by Lake (Spotify)

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