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October 2, 2024 • 35 mins
On Huddle Up, J.P. Shadrick, John Oehser, and Bucky Brooks reflect on Week 4 and look ahead to Week 5, focusing on the Jaguars' defense and previewing this weekend's AFC South divisional showdown, which will honor the past 30 seasons and pay tribute to Tom Coughlin.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Field Total,
UK Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and
former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P. Shaddick
bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Huddle Up starts right now and we'll come in.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
It is Wednesday, October second, It is week five, and
this is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
We've got a busy show ahead.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
A final look at the Jaguars Texans game from week four.
The Jaguars had the lead late, Texans drove down the
field of course in the final two minute drive and
scored the game winning touchdown with eighteen seconds to go.
We'll take our last look and then put that away.
We'll move ahead to week five. The Colts come to town.
The game presented by Baptists Hell, Changing Healthcare for Good.

(00:49):
The Colts and the Jaguars. One o'clock kickoff time. We'll
try to figure out how to jump start the Jaguars,
and a lot of questions about the Colts quarterback position
and some injuries they're running back. Dinged up a little
bit and get some thoughts about that coming up as well.
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Speaker 3 (01:13):
JP shatterk and John Osier at the Hyundai Studios from
the Miller Electric Center, and Bucky Brooks is in Los Angeles,
California as always, And good afternoon, Bucky.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
How are you feeling this week?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man? I'm good. I am good.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I think is very similar to the pressers that I
saw today with Doug and Trevor and those guys, Like,
once you get to Wednesday, you really put everything from Sunday.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
In the rear view.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
You begin to cast your eyes towards the upcoming game
against the Indianapolis Colts, And so that's where I'm at.
I think, as sad and as disappointed as you as
I might have been walking out of the stadium against
the Texans, I'm optimistic that this week is going to
be the week that things start to turn around.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yeah, it's a weird year. I mean it's zero and
four is all that matters, right, But I don't I
feel like there's multiple teams at two and two and
one and three that the Jaguars are probably playing better
than or as well as, but they haven't won, you know,

(02:19):
and uh, you know, they played the AFC South leaders
the other day. Should have won the game. It had
multiple chances to put it away, and yet, just like
in Miami, really with multiple chances to slam the door shut,
they didn't. So the positives that you can find just

(02:41):
get lost. You know, they don't matter in terms of
how outsiders should feel about this team, but they have
to matter and have to be built upon if you're
going to have any hope going forward. And weird weird year,
because I don't think they're playing in a lot of
way to oh and four, but they're playing oh to

(03:03):
four in all the ways that matter. If it makes sense,
I mean, it's because you're own four and you know
you are not built to be a building team. You're
built to be a team that wins now, and they're not.
So here we are here, you have it, the.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Last alas here we are.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Uh, let's start with the quarterback from last week, Bucky
as we put a bow on the Texans game. A
little bit later, we'll get into the Colts game obviously
coming up this week. But for our first chance to
really chat with Bucky since that game in Houston, missing
a few key open guys. I mean, the running game
was decent, the running backs played pretty well overall, but

(03:42):
this offense, and especially Trevor Lawrence Bucky, you know, how
does he snap out of this thing? I know it's
a team concept to o line. Everybody's got to play better,
but the quarterback's got to hit the boat the throws
that are open.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Right, I mean, yeah, he does.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
But I think what you do as a coach, you
got to continue to investigate different things that you can
help him get going. I think what Trevor is in
is in basketball, what we call a slump, and what
you tend to do for basketball players when they're slumping
is you tell them, hey, if you miss a couple
of shots, go hit a layup.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
You know, go hit a couple of layups. Hee, the
ball go through the bucket.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I think it's important that press Taylor since we now
know he's calling the players. I think it's about making
sure that I get my quarterback playing well and being very.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Comfortable, and so I'm gonna play the hits. I talked
about this before.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Like when you get in your car and you listen
to the radio, they play the same songs in rotation. Well,
I want to do the same things for Trevor Lawrence.
I want to find five concepts that he feels really
good about, and I want to play those same I
want to run those same plays.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Over and over and over again.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
We can dress them up and motion and shift or whatever,
but I want him to play a game where the
only things that are on the game plan are things
that he knows and he can do in his sleep.
And if you go back and look at how Trevor
Lawrence played at Clemson, how he played when he was
at his best in twenty twenty two, there are a
couple things that are trends. Screens, quick passes, RPOs, and

(05:13):
crossing routes. The game plan needs to feature those things
because those are the things that he's done.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well since he was in high school.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
He did well in college, and he did well at
the early part of his NFL career. I'm going to
build a game plan with those things in mind to
allow him to be comfortable, and then I'll worry about
adding to that after. We have a couple of things,
but cut it down, make it easy. Allowed the quarterback
to get into a group.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
Yet I feel like they started to take that approach Sunday, Bucky.
I mean early they did. They're clearly feeding it to
Christian Kirk. They get it going. So I'm going to
agree with you and say they just sort of have
to keep doing that. They did it, and he was
warmed up, so to speak of warmed ups the right word,

(05:58):
but I felt like he was in rhythm. They felt
like they had done that, and then they had worked
the game plan enough to get two or three plays open.
It should have been the big hitters, and then he
missed him, He missed Christian, and he missed Brian Thomas Jr.
So I kind of think you just have to tell

(06:19):
yourself this week, we're gonna do the same thing, and
we got to keep doing that until he hits it.
Like you know, you know, if Steph misses a couple
of threes, he just got to keep shooting it. So
you can't tell him not to throw that deep ball
to Christian Kurk. You just got to do it until
he gets hit. And I think Trevor really fit into

(06:40):
what I was talking about earlier in the show. They
were I don't think he played awfully except on the
two plays that they needed and to play the biggest
and if he hits those, we're talking about a breakout game.
But he didn't hit him. So it's not like you

(07:02):
just I feel like a broken record this season. You
just have to make the darn plays when they're there
and then this goes away. But after, you know, after
four weeks, it's fair for fans to question if he
can do it or not.

Speaker 7 (07:15):
I don't question that because I've seen him do it.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
He's They've won nine games with this guy in the
last two years. He's not an zero and seventeen quarterback.
You're right, So it's not like it's not there. It's
just frustrating as heck when it's not.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
There, no doubt about that. Yeah, that makes sense to
me for sure. That's the offensive side of things. The defense,
you know what I mean, we have a lot of
guys missing out of the lineup right now, Bucky and
especially at the linebacker position. We'll see moving ahead about
Josh heinz Allen and the protocol, but they had guys
step in and Venttro Miller played in that game and

(07:54):
had seven tackles, and the back end has a lot
of guys coming and going out of the lineup all
the time. But they put up a second half in
that game in Houston, and the Texans couldn't do anything
until the final two minute drive when they went all
the way down the field and scored the game winning touchdown.
But you know, it's all kind of ruined because of

(08:15):
that last drive. But you got to give this group credit,
Bucky for the way they've played overall.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
I think, look, man, I would say this, I've been
more impressed with the defense than I ever could imagine
in terms of what they've had to deal with. When
you think about the players who have not been available
for this team, let's just talk about Tyson Campbell not
being around, Dewey not being around in the back end,
Darnelle Savage basically.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Not being around.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
You think about four you not being able to play.
Last game, Devin Lord was a scratch, a late game scratch.
And yet they're still throwing these young guys in and
they're having success. And outside of what I would call
the anomaly of the Buffalo game, they played really well.
They played better than we could have imagined this team
to be. Because let's be honest, this team the Jaguars.

(09:00):
We're not supposed to be a defensive led team. The
expectation for the last two years is that it was
going to be a high powered offense and the defense
was just going to need to hold serve.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
It hasn't been that for whatever reason.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
But defensively, they've played well enough to win two maybe
three games. I would say the offense has to get
up and going because then we will actually have an
opportunity to see the defense hold there on and began
to dictate the terms as opposed to being able to play.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Reacting, Yeah, it's his show.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Somebody said it, but I was about to make the
exact same point. I've because of what we do, you
try to find things to say about, like the different
units in the team.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
I know the defense.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
I'm sure Ryan Nilson is sitting here and saying, we
got to create more turnovers. You know, We've got to
We've got to get a stop late in the game
against Miami. We've got to get a stop late in
the game against Houston. So if you were if you'd
gone into the season saying we expect to be an
elite defense, which I know he wants to be, but

(10:04):
I'm saying as observers. Buck, He's right. You didn't expect
this team to be carried by the defense. So they
have within the context of the way this team is built,
this defense, while it hasn't gotten those two key stops,
the way this team is built, they're not supposed to
have to in that situation. You're supposed to be able

(10:27):
to win those games. You should have been up. You
should have been twenty four to seven in Miami. You
should have been up. They had chances to go up ten,
multiple chances against Houston. They played well enough defensively for
that team to be up ten. It'd been nice if
the defense would have done that. They would have won
the game had they done that. But I don't think

(10:47):
you can say the defense had a bad game because
they didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Does that make sense, It does make sense, John.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
We are back at a moment. We'll look ahead. Now.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
The Texans game is in the rear view. We're not
going back. The Texans come to town. Let's about what
seven weeks away.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
We'll go back and say, and then.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
We'll get back to the Texans when we have to.
We're back in a moment, though, it's on to Indianapolis.
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Speaker 2 (11:24):
This is huddle up with Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 8 (11:30):
Del Wus in my career. Unfortunately, it's never fun, and
it's every time it happens. You know, it's just you
have to be very thick skinned and you have to
be just persistent.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
You know, this is a this is a tough sport.
It's a tough game.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
I mean, you're gonna every week, especially when you're in
a situation like this, you have to be very thick
skinned and have to keep your head down and keep working.
You know, I have no doubt that we're gonna we're
gonna find our way out of this and we're gonna
be really good moving forward. And the frustrating part, like
I said, is we all feel like it should have
happened already, right and it's like it hasn't happened in
the first four weeks, which is really frustrating because it

(12:08):
feel like we've done everything right during the week. We've
prepared the right way, We're detailed, you know, and some
sometimes that hasn't carried over on Sunday, So that is frustrating.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
That's the quarterback, of course. Trevor Lawrence earlier today.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
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Speaker 4 (12:53):
All right.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
So Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars offense trying to get
off the deck against Gus Bradley the defense for the
Indianapolis Colts, and they've got a couple of injuries up front, Bucky,
I mean, the Forest Buckner's not around there right now.
Let's see they're the young guy from UCLA out to
Lot too has been dinged up a little bit. I

(13:15):
mean this is a different feeling Colts defense in terms
of some personnel, right, Bucky.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, it's a different thing.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
But one thing that we know is gonna be consistent
is Gus Bradley's gonna have a plug and play system
that allows.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Anybody to play and play well. It's simple simon. They're
not gonna do a lot.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
They're gonna put a premium on execution and making sure
that their guys play fast and they try and create
turnals on their physicality and effort, so you're gonna know
exactly what to do. It's about can you execute better
than they execute? And if you do that, you gona
win games. If you don't, it can be a long day.
But they want to make you drive the length of

(13:54):
the field. They want to take away the big plays.
They want you to dink and dunk it, and they
hope that the odds will evincely tilt in their favor
where they're able to force you into a negative play,
either through a self inflicted mistake, a random negative play
to they careate on a tackle, a loss, or a sack,
or you do some silly by getting greedy and trying
to force one into tight cover.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Yeah, this defense they cover one just like a Nandy
for a long time, the same concept. They do what
Bucky said. They want you to have to drive twelve
or fourteen plays, and they assume that most teams in
the NFL, the elite teams can do that. Most teams
in the NFL can't do that more than two or
three times a game, so they.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Play the odds.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
If I'm Gus Bradley and the Colts, I'm thinking I'm
looking at this offense thinking this is an offense that
can't do that two or three times does. As we've
said many times this season, it's up to the Jaguars
to go show that they're the kind of team that
can do that if you play well against this Colts defense.
You can against because I don't think it's great, but

(15:02):
they're going to force you to do that, and this
team hadn't done it yet. So it's I'm kind of
broken record this week until one o'clock rolls around. A
lot of these things are simple, but this team just
hasn't done the simple things when they've had a chance
to do it, So go show us, Sorry, JP.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
What it is pretty simple, that's all. I mean, it's
all you gotta have. I mean, it's got to go
out there and play. Now, what did they do? Remember
the game's last season Bucky against the Colts. Was there
anything that stood out about the way the Jaguars attacked
the Colts last season?

Speaker 5 (15:42):
I would say that Doug Peterson knows how to attack
this scheme really well.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
And you know, Gus has changed a little bit.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
He went from men a guy that was a big
middle of the field team, meaning cover one, cover three,
so it be man free. What would be some kind
of cover three where they would kind of take everything
away and force you to throw check. He's gone to
more split safety stuff quarters, which still has some vulnerabilities,
but they basically want to put an umbrella over the
top of the offense. What you have to do is

(16:09):
you have to stay on schedule, and so it has
to be the quick rhythm throws that are thrown at
five to ten yards. You got to catch the ones
that are thrown because then if you get into a
second and longer third and long their guys a line
up wider and then the pressure come and so it's
about the efficiency of the execution. Can you make the
simple things happen over and over and over again, and

(16:30):
can the quarterback have enough discipline to take the checkdown,
to take the underneath thrut stuff and not get bored
with the easy throws and try and show like, hey,
I want to make a big play. Because this is
one where you have to tell the quarter a big
play is not going to be into It's not gonna.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Be into the equation.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
This week, we got to out execute them with a
bunch of dinking, numb throws.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
You remember last year, one of the big plays against
the Colls, really the season was when Trevor it was
out here at EverBank Stadium and uh he hit Christian
kirk over on the left between like a safety and
a corner. It was a great throw, great play, and
it was unusual because it was it was a little
bit of a shot. It's what that defense usually doesn't

(17:11):
give up. And Christian and Trevor both talked about it.
They had seen it on tape, they knew they could
get it. They got it, but those are unusual against
this scheme. It's gonna be, like Bucky said, they have
Trevor has to show the patience and frankly, the receivers
have to catch more consistently. He has to put it
on point where the guys can catch and run. He

(17:32):
had to play on Sunday Trevor did where he missed
etn and to play at that would have been a
first down.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (17:36):
They have to be more efficient than they've been all season,
and you know, you keep waiting for it. If if
they get this one, it's conceivable they start realins some
games back in. But yeah, I'm I'm a little tired
of talking about it until they can do it.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's true. Plenty ahead.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
We'll come back in a moment and get into the
jagor is defensive matchup this week and what the Colts
might have to offer on the offensive side.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Don't know yet. It's Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
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Speaker 2 (18:19):
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Speaker 9 (18:24):
I think that's an area that we can continue to improve, right,
I think I think we're close when you were again
when you really put on the on the film and look,
we're we're When I say we're close, we're inches away
from hitting the quarterback, hitting his arm, knocking the ball loose.
You know, we've we've played some mobile guys here too
in these first first few weeks, you know, and and

(18:45):
so that that comes into play. But you know, it's
not for lack of effort. We got to continue to
push pockets. You know, this is another another week depending
on who plays, you know, the pass rush could be
a little bit different, you know, but we're close. We
know internally that we can improve and needs to improve,

(19:07):
and we got to just continue to work.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
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Speaker 2 (19:20):
This is huddle up with Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
And the Jaguars defense. Of course the head coach. They
are talking about the pass rush and how close they are.
We heard that a little bit last year too, but
they did get home enough to combine for the outside linebackers.
Of course, last year combined for the most sacks combined
to the NFL of any teammates, but not quite getting
there yet this year unfortunately. And then he's talking about

(19:46):
the matchup this week and you just don't know yet.
Anthony Richardson, with a hip injury last week, came back
in the game, left the game. Joe Flacco is a statue,
and you know, eighteen years in the NFL and we
know what he did against his team las year. How
different I mean, obviously the teas are polar opposite styles
at quarterback, Bucky, So how do you approach the rush

(20:06):
for each.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah? No, it's challenging, right.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
So you have the young, inexperienced super athlete and Anthony Richardson,
and what you want to do with him is you
want him to have to read and decipher and then when.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
You rush him, you don't want to rush past the
depth of his drop.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
You want to make him kind of run inside in
between the tackles, and so you want to keep him there,
whereas with Joe Flacco, you want to pressure Joe Flacco
right up the gut. You want him to see it
because he's not as athletic and as mobile, and when.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
He sees the pressure coming up the gut. It forces
him to.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Go to his right or to his left, and when
that happens, typically the efficiency and the accuracy is going
to go down. So you just have to beare aware
of who's in the game at all times.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
And it won't take long. It won't be something that
is a surprise to the Jacks.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
The benefit that the Jacks have is the injury happened
before they played the Colts, because now they have an
opportunity to put a plan in place for both of them.
Nilsen has an opportunity to put a Joe Flacco game
plan and an Anthony Richardson game plan in and they
could have they can practice it all week, so I
think they'll be prepared. They'll be ready for each guy.

(21:19):
You just have to be aware of which ones in
the game.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Yeah, I'd almost think they'd rather see Richardson here. He's very,
very dangerous, but you also feel like there's going to
be opportunities for mistakes and turnovers with him. With Flacco,
He's he's so smart, he's so experienced. We saw in

(21:43):
Cleveland last year in big moments. Certainly Richardson has a
brighter future, but right now, Flacco's you know, all he's
done since he got back in line against Cleveland last
year in Cleveland, last year's win, and play well. So
Richardson would beat you for a few plays, just like

(22:05):
last year in the opener, beat you for a few plays,
but you also get some off him and enabled you
to get some turnover or at least one turnover, and
the Jaredes haven't gotten any yet, So that would do.
A Richardson touchdown followed by a Jaguars interception off Richardson
would feel like edge je like, I think getting a

(22:26):
turnover something good to happen defensively would outweigh him making
one or two big plays to me at this point
with this defense makes.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Sense to me.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
And by the way, Flacco last year against the Jaguars
with the Browns twenty six or forty five, but he
went for three eleven and three touchdowns, had one interception,
and I think it was a big tight end day,
right if I remember right for a Cleveland and I
know we've heard that over the years, you remember, right, Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, that was a bit of an issue.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
We couldn't get lined up David and Jok who's running
down the thing? Joe Flacco looks like he's in prime form,
like back in the.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Super Bowl heyday. So hopefully this.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Time around, if he does play, we can disrupt his
rhythm and not allow him to look like a hero.
I think we probably are partially responsible for him getting
to come back of the Play of the Year award.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
We ain't hurt, Yeah, no, absolutely in the prime territory
of that. How good is the Colts offensive line these days?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
And you know there's.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Still question marks about the running back too. Jonathan Taylor
with a slight high ankle.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
We see, yeah, I mean like he did suffer a
bit of an injury, but you also saw him get
busy when he has the ball in his hands, and
he is a look, he's a thoroughbred. He is someone
that can take in the distance from anywhere. He's a
physical running back. Not quite as active in the passing game,
but when they put a ball in his hands, you
got to pay attention. And depending on who's playing, if

(23:49):
it's Anthony Richardson playing with Jonathan Taylor, then you have
to worry about certain things like the read.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Game, the read option game, and those things. But I
would say this twenty eight is their best player.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
He is a really good back who can make it
happen in a variety of different ways.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Yeah, I think in this era right now, there's only
a handful of running backs that you genuinely fear each
week if you're even as a coordinator, that they can
define the game.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
Now in the NFL, they're.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
All good enough that that can do that, But you
worry about Jonathan Taylor defining the game hitting a run
in the second or third quarter where you feel like
you can't get the guy out the field. We feel
like he's been four or five plays during that span.
We sort of felt one a couple of years back
with Jonathan Taylor, think his rookie year where every time
he touched the ball. This Cole Slevans line is playing
better than it has the last couple of years.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
He can easily be.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
The defining player in this game. Jaguars have stopped the
run pretty.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Well, and it will be impaired for them to do
that again.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
Sunday starts there no matter who running back, but a
storyline for Indy.

Speaker 7 (25:04):
They've had a reputation.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
For what five, six, seven years of a great offensive line.
Their reputation really wasn't real the last couple of years,
but they're playing really well. Right now you have it.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
That's the matchup this week for the Jaguars defense against
the Colts. We're back at the moment. Our final thoughts
ahead of Week five. It's Huddled Up with Bucky Brooks.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
I talk to these guys every day and I see
them every day and and no, I have not lost.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
The locker room.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
I think these guys have have have done everything I've asked.
They continue to play and practice hard and battle and
and you know, it's a good group.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
It's a good group.

Speaker 9 (25:47):
The right leaders in there, and they know they know
what we need to do, and you know they're not
making excuses for it. And I'm not going to make
excuses and we just got to go do it.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
That's the head coach Doug Peterson today and welcome back.
It's Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. Brought to you by
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auto group. Go to Fieldsauto dot com. No, he has
not lost the locker room, Johnny says.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
No, I don't think he has. It's uh And now
Bucky can speak to this more than me because he's
been you know, guess what. He's played more NFL football
than I have. But it's always a danger at oh
and four, when you've lost nine of ten, it's going
to be a question.

Speaker 7 (26:34):
There's going to be reporters and.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
People around the league who call and find out if
you've lost the locker room at oh and four. My
experience tells me there's a there's a point of oh
and something. There's a number on the end of that
where you do lose the locker room. Even if you're
a good coach, even if they believe in you, Owen
something means something is lost. I don't think they're there yet,

(26:57):
but Bucky, that's you know in this you worry about
that at some point, at some point that's an issue.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Yeah, No, I mean you're right, at some point they
do begin to lose a little belief in the coach
and everything.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
But that's everybody.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
And so hopefully what you've done is you've put together
a team of tough minded individuals who understand that adversus's
going to happen and that you got to push your
way through it. I think a lot of it depends
on how open and honest Doug Peterson is with the team,
whether he is able to retain their trust going forward.
And so sometimes it may require you, if you said

(27:35):
something that could be perceived to be taken out of
context and oppressor, to go back and address it directly
with the team and say, hey, here's what I meant.
Because no matter what, like when reporters and people are
sniffing around the locker room, the noise is loud inside
and outside the building. As the head coach, you have
to make sure that you're very open, you're very honest.

(27:58):
You have the friend discussions and the hard conversations, but
you also when the team has lost for in a row,
this is when you really have to be super positive
and build them up. No matter what we think about
players twenty two to thirty five, thirty six years old,
they can lose a little confidence when you've lost as
much as the Jaguars have lost over the last two seasons,

(28:21):
nine out.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Of the last ten games. So you got to build
them up.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
And so I think the bigger thing is from a
psychological standpoint, Doug Peterson has to convince them that they
still are a good team, they still can win, but
they have to be able to do the things correctly
execution wise to win And.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
For perspective here, Bucky, you've been around Doug with the
Jaguars as long as I haven't, njps Eric. The thing
that sort of started this theme was when he said
after the game, players have to make plays, etc. Well
guess what he got here in twenty twenty two. I'll

(28:56):
bet I've heard him say that after eight or nine games,
So that really wasn't a new statement. I think because
they're own four, people are sort of picking apart things
that are said a little more, uh and looking for
that a little more. And again, I'm not inside Doug,
and you know, I don't know what he means when

(29:17):
he says things, but I do know that when he
said that on Sunday to myself, I've heard that seven
or eight times.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yes, it's been here. The tone was just different, you know,
and short after a game.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
And after four.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
But you know, I think what you tell players and
what a lot of players who have been around here
has said, My guess is he has said that exact
same thing, and meeting after meeting after meeting. I know
I've heard it in press in presser after presser after presser,
So I think that's the reality. And uh, I guess
there's a lot of players who've been around are probably saying,

(29:50):
you know, I've heard him say that he's right, we
got to do it, And uh so, I don't think
this particular incident will be very difficult to put behind them,
is my feeling.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
If it's even better among the guys.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
I'm be honest with you, man, I think there's a
lot of conversation that they really didn't have any currency
when it came to the.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Real locker room.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
We can talk about, you know, whether you lose the
locker room and oh my god, he called out the players.
But to me, he really didn't call out the players
because he was being honest when he said it.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
He didn't call anybody out by name.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
He didn't point to a particular player and say that
this guy has to improve or this person made a
poor player on this situation, so that's why we lost.
He talked about the players have to play better, and
if the players are honest with themselves, yeah, they have
to play better than not playing well enough to win games.
And ultimately he has said it because I would say
this as a former player.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
He knows it's a player's game.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Players ultimately determine who wins or loses, they have to
play better. If they play better individually and collectively, they
will start winning games. And so that's on every player
to look at themselves and say, hey, have I done
enough from a preparation standpoint to give myself the best
chance to play well on Sunday?

Speaker 4 (31:03):
And if they do that, then you can sleep good
at night. You just hope that the results a positive.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So there you have it.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
The full press conference Jaguars Come and the Jaguars YouTube
from the head coach Doug Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
There'll be more out of the locker room coming up
tomorrow as well. But also one final thought on Sunday.
We mentioned it earlier, Tom Coughlin going into the pride
of the Jaguars at halftime, Bucky and he'll join Tony Boselli,
the Weavers, Fred Taylor, Jimmy Smith and here goes coach Coughlin.

(31:34):
And you know, I had a chance to actually saw
him yesterday watching Mark Burnell.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh, Mark Brunell left him off that list.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
My apologies, sorry, Mark, No, no, you're right. And I
saw Tom Coughlin yesterday at the hospital visit at Wilson
Children's Hospital and he's you can tell he's he's really honored,
excited for what's going to happen at halftime on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And you guys both dealt with.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Him in different ways over the years, I'm sure, but Bucky,
this one stands out.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
That's a big deal.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
Yeah, it stands out.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
And I don't know if I've ever told you guys
the story, but I'll share it quickly. I love my
experience in Jacksonville as a player, but I will say
it was a tough adjustment for me coming to Jacksonville
coming from the Green Bay Packers. The Green Bay Packers
had an older team with Reggi White and Brett Favre.
They operated a little differently in terms of, like Doug
has talked about it, a man be a pro.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
So there weren't a lot of rules when it came
to some of the things when it was.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
The meeting room or what you wear on the plane
and all of those things. So to go from that,
I would say a looser environment to come in Jacksonville.
I had a tough time kind of with all of
the little rules and the concentration line and you socks
up and you help it strapped and making sure that
everyone wore the same thing, because that wasn't really a
big deal in my previous spots, and I remember being like,

(32:55):
this is silly and annoying me or whatever. Fast forward
to and I think it may have been five or
six years ago. I had a chance to see Coach
Coughlin at the Combine and he was eating breakfast at
the top of shoeless and I walk over to him
and I said, Coach, look, I want to apologize because
I gave you a hard time about all of these
little rules. But I've been coaching high school ball since

(33:15):
two thousand and eight, and all of those things that
you talked about, I found myself implementing with young players
and making sure that they wore the same things, and
making sure they showed up five minutes early, and making
sure that we all looked like a team and no
one was above the team based on how they looked
on whatever. And if it wasn't from my experience in Jacksonville,

(33:37):
I never would have done that. So let me apologize
to you for being a young naive player thinking that
I knew more than you. Because all those things that
you taught me, I now share it and some of
the success that we've had is because of that framework
that you set for us and set for everyone that
played in Jacksonville.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
Y'all go quickly.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
I mean, I've heard that story, Bucky in different ways,
not from you, but from many many players over the
years that he's absolutely a guy that once you're away.
Former players who would complained to me and Prisco when
we were on the beat, this guy's doing this, this
guy's full of this, this guy's full of this. Invariably

(34:17):
they would come back and say once they went to
other teams that they missed feeling prepared on a level
that never quite you know, I'm not saying never, but
they always said they were prepared to play under Tom.
You use the word framework. I occasionally get emails from
people saying, why is Tom going in the Pride? They

(34:37):
never won a Super Bowl, etcetera, etcetera. Picking apart the concept.
If you were here in the nineties, you understood he
built the framework for this organization. You cannot come close
to telling the story of this organization without Tom being
huge chapters of the early years he defined it. You know,

(35:00):
I am very good friends with Tony Biselli. I consider
Mark Brunella friend, I love Jimmy Smith considered for a
tailor friend. They would all tell you this franchise. The
cover of the Media Guide was Tom Coughlin because he
was the heart and the soul of it.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
There you have it, and that will be honored on
Sunday at halftime of the Colts Jaguars matchup one o'clock
kickoff time, and hey, we've got plenty of coverage the
rest of the week here on Jaguars dot Com. Bucky,
we'll talk to you a little bit later.

Speaker 9 (35:28):
Man.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Appreciate it, all right, buddy, Thanks for having Bucky.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Brooks From Los Angeles, John Osram, JP Shattercker, Thanks to David, Joe,
Brent Reaber, Joe Fortunado, our entire crew. It's tuddle up
with Bucky Brooks.
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