May 22, 2025 • 27 mins
Bucky Brooks hops on with J.P. Shadrick and John Oehser to recap the first couple of days of Jaguars OTAs. The crew runs through the moments from the week, making the biggest buzz on social media and recommends how you should react to them. Later, Bucky shares his thoughts on the schedule and why it's crucial to simulate adversity in the offseason. This and more on Huddle Up, presented by Fields Auto Group.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Huddle Up by the Fields Total Group, Jaguars
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JP Shadwick with John Oser. We're at the Honday Studios
inside the middle of Electric Center. Bucky Brooks is out
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in Los Angeles and the good afternoon, Bucky.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's up man?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
What's going on? Guys? I'm giving you a different look.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
It's a new Bucky Brooks here. It's not where are you,
It's not the backdrop of the office that a Jaguars.
What's what's the shirt?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
What are you rolling with? Today?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
No?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
No, I just I just happened to be in my
son's in my son's room as opposed to like my
typical office. I got some things going on into the
house and so I'm just you know different location.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, glad you uh, glad you adjusted for us. It's
great to great to see you a lot to get to.
Of course, phase three is here organized team activities and uh,
we're closing in on the end of the off season program.
What eight practices including I guess Wednesdays, uh to go
at ot as and then three mini camp practices on
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the schedule, so not a lot of time left on
the field in this offseason.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And Johnny, you were out there on Monday. I was
You've been around that been a lot of a lot
of online reviews of some of the practice. What did
you see?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I saw a team that was practicing for the first
time in shorts and pads and with a new offense
and new defense. Uh. And I saw a May football practice,
and some of the questions afterward were sort of toward
as if there had been some tragedy with the offense.
And you know, what I saw that I liked, And
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all I really wanted to see was that Bucky the
receivers are really fast. I thought Trevor Lawrence's quote about
Travis Hunter getting in and out of breaks, that's all
I wanted to hear about Travis Hunter. You know, would
that translate with that element of his games. I think
if he can do that, he can get open in
the NFL. And if he can get open, he can
make catches. He's that kind of playmaker. Brian Thomas Junior
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looked to me like a guy who you know, was
great as a rookie and now now he's in the NFL. Man,
I mean like, now he knows how to get open.
Now he's impressive. He looks like he's gonna be dominant
moving forward. And Downy Brown looked really fast. So all
I cared about was sort of seeing some traits, because
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that's all that's all you look for. If you're trying
to evaluate on this, you're missing the boat.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah, I think it's some things that you're looking for
when you first see them. In OTA's one, you got
a new coaching staff, so you're trying to get a
feel for how the team looks as a casual. You're
trying to say, man, do they look organized and structured?
Does it appear to be that this is a group
that is paying attention to detail those things just from
a structural standpoint, new coaching staff, a bunch of young
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coaches trying to figure it out, so like, how does
that look. Then you're beginning to assess the overall feel
of the team. Do you like to speed, the athleticism,
how do they look physically, are they big? Do they
appear to be an imposing type team compared to in
the past, And then you're beginning to look at how
they're going through what they're being asked to do. So
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people have really spent a lot of time talking about
the wide receivers and how fast they are they getting
in and.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Out of the cuts and all of that.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
You're just trying to make sure that there aren't any
glaring red flags that pop up doing this part of
the off season. We can talk about a it's a
scriptive practice in those things and it doesn't matter, it doesn't,
but you just want to make sure that doing these
things that don't matter, we at least look like we
know what we're doing and we're doing it very very fast.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I think what is annually forgotten from fans is, uh,
this is when they practice and they are putting in
a new system where yes, they have done individual work
and some you know, some stuff on the field in
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phase one, in phase two, but this week is the
first time that they these guys have run this offense
anything close to live. And this is the teaching time.
If you're not teaching right now, when are you teaching,
Because there's no time to teach in training camp anymore.
I mean, I'm exaggerating that, but to a point. You've
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got to sort of be ready to go because you're
not working like you used to in training camp. So
this is absolutely designed to teach and to be a classroom.
And I'm not sure you want a Trevor at the
end of OTAs to have completed eighty five percent with
like one interception, because then he's probably checking down every play, right.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So base ol Tooton's getting a lot of We've seen
that before around here.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
We have seen that in you know, Johnny may Gray
point like we have new systems going in on both
sides of the ball, these special teams at stage of
saying because he remained as the coordinator, but offensively, yeah,
you are trying to learn something that's completely different than
the previous system.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The coach is also learning, you know.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
It's one thing to draw these things up on papers,
another thing to begin to see how what they think
the team is going to be able to do is
executed by the players, and do you have to tweak
and adapt to the personnel that you have, particularly when
it comes to Trevor Lawrence. All of those things are
being played out in real time and dependent upon how
the coaching staff les to utilize this process where you're
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pushing the envelope. You're trying to put as much in
as you can to see how the players learn and
retain while also doing they want to admit this some experimentation. Hey,
let's see what these concepts look like on the grass
against this defense. Let's get this on tape so we
can figure out do we like this. Do we like
it enough to install it in training camp and potentially
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use it during the season, or we put it on
tape and then that we've seen it, it doesn't look
as good on the grass as it did on the whiteboard.
All of those things are going into play while also
teaching a bunch of players new fundamentals and new techniques
that are scheme specific so.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
They can execute the jobs. When it comes to it.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
There's a lot of stuff going on, and so we
shouldn't overreact to anything that we see. We'll have plenty
of time to make assessment, assessments and assertions. Once we
get into training camp, preseason games in the first part
of the.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Season, huddle up with the Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You speaking of overreaction, the ozone is a place for
people overreact something. Clips's daily on jauars dot com.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Question and answer.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
If you've never heard of John Ozure, that's what he does.
So one of I think it was today, I think
it was Wednesday. Somebody asked about toot and fumbling of football.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Well, yes they did, and that I was actually going
to bring up because I guess he's fumbled a little
in the past in college. I would say I'm worried
about it. But you know, fumbling on the first on
his first snap of OTAs, you don't want to be
that guy. So I'd be a little more concerned about
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a fumble in OTAs and would an interception in OTAs.
And by concerned, I mean maybe it's a two on
a scale of one hundred, right, I mean, but you
don't want that to be a thing. So I'm not
worried about that. But if you continue to see fumbles
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in practice over time, then you do worry about being
a thing. But I'm going to assume it's not what
this is right.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, it's one of those things like you want to
make sure the ball security is there and it's only
going if you're putting the ball on the ground. Now,
you want to make the player aware of it because
coming from college to the pros, one of the biggest
difference is how defenders go hunt the ball in the
NFL game, it is a priority. Everyone talks about it
to peanut punch and the way they just rake at it.
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You have to be tight with the ball, making sure
it's high and tight, and then you've got to be
aware of it like front of mind in traffic that
they're always going for it. But it's not something that
you should be overly concerned. It's a coaching point. It's
a teaching point. You can't expect a player to play
like a pro until they get into the pros. And
part of this part of the off season is the
transition from how you played in college to how you
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expected to play as a pro. And so they're going
to be some bumps along the way and some things
that everybody has to learn, particularly with a new coaching
staff coming over implementing their own culture structure, expectations and standards.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I'll tell you what I saw on on Monday that
was really exciting and intriguing. Was I mentioned it at
the top, Brian Thomas Junior. Maybe all the receivers apply
to this, but really him, it looks to me like,
for the first time in a long time, Justin could
have been it and he never worked out here by Blackman,
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But Brian Thomas Junior looks like a guy who is
always going to be open. And I'm exaggerating that, but
you know, when you watch Cincinnati Jamar Chase, you know
you know they can feed that guy the ball and
a lot of trust there. It'd be unusual if they
can't go to him. Travis Hunter looks like a guy
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who's gonna be open a lot, and I think they've
got three or four guys. GM a long time ago
told me for a great quarterback, you need four guys
in the offensive system who you trust can beat a
single coverage and beat it badly that you can't leave
single covered. It looks like they're getting pretty close to
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that here where if you leave a BTJ single covered,
you're gonna lose. It looks like Travis Hunter can be
that guy. I think Dianmi Brown looks like he's got
ways to beat you, so that that gets real interesting
because that's hard to get that high level combination. And
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I kind of think Travis etn might fit in there, Bucky,
I mean it. Yeah, the skill guys on this offense
have gotten really interesting with the addition of Hunter and Brown.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And one of the things that happens if you are
a team that wants to create explosive plays, speed is
the quickest.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Way to be able to accomplish that.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Because when you have a fast team, you can generate
those explosives in a few different ways. One, you can
throw it over the top of the defense too. You
can throw it on crossing routes and they can catch and.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Run and run past everybody.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Three, the space that is created by the threats on
the perimeter can create opportunities for the running game to
pop because now the defense is spread out. What it
appears that the Jaguars have made a concerted effort to
get faster and more explosive, and ultimately that's going to
make the game.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Easier for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
When you are committed to Trevor Lawrence, like the Jaguars are,
and you're paying them the amount of money that you're
paying them. Everything is really about making him comfortable, making
the game easy for him so that his natural talents
can come through. So it's the supporting staff, the supporting casts,
the scheme, everything is designed to make sure that sixteen is.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Able to elevate his game.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And in a quarterback driven league, particularly in the AFC,
where the quarterbacks are locked and loaded and stacked, we
have to find a way to get Trevor Lawrence to
play an elite level and some of that might be
through the scheming and the personnel that has been put
in place.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The schedule is finally here.
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Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's John Oser, I'm JP Shadwick.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles. Yeah, well that
schedules out Bucky, since we talked, what do you think
like it?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Look, I like it. I won't go crazy and be like,
oh it's easy, it's hard, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
It is what it is.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I think the main thing that you're looking for very
early is can this team get out to a fast start.
It's been proven like research to tell you that the
first quarter of the season ultimately can determine whether you're
going to be.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
A playoff team or not.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
And if you can race out to Gate to a
three and one or a four in our start, more
than likely you're going to be in the postseason. When
I look at the opening few games, like, there's an
opportunity at Jaguars play well to put themselves in a
position to be in the hunt when it matters down
the stretch. But it's gonna take them playing well. And
the thing about schedules, we never know what teams are
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going to be like. But we know, look, man, the
Panthers coming out the Gate and the Bengals, it's gonna
be interesting playing them in the home opener with Jamar
Chase and T Higgins and those guys. And then you
got some interesting games coming under pipe with a Monday
night game in Kansas City at home. I mean, there's
some tough games, But look, you can't fear who's on
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the slate. You got to go out and play and
so hopefully we hit the ground running, but we've got
to play well.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Out the gate.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, it's an interesting schedule because it's it can be
looked at multiple ways. I think it's a tough five
out of the box and even a tough seven out
of the box.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Ye.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yeah. And you have Carolina, which had a losing record
last year, and then your only team out of the
next seven with a losing record last year with San
fran and they just don't feel like they sort of
feel like Cincinnati to me, like even if they have
a tough season, you feel like with what they are,
they're not gonna be bad coming out of the gate
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the next year. So I think it's tough. And then
at the same time, you have five out of those
seven or home games. So this franchise, the people running
it believe that they're a lot better than they were
last year. So if you're if you're better than you
were last year, then you're about five hundred team, you know,
or maybe better. And if you're that level team, then
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you're supposed to go take advantage of home games and
sort of stay afloat through this tough spot and be
ready to compete when it gets quote more manageable at
the end. So I guess that's kind of a long
witted way of saying. The most obvious thing was that
if if the Jaguars are good, this is a pretty
manageable schedule. If they're giving away games at the end
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like they were last year, then you've got five or
six seven teams that all look like they're the on
a team that can take it from you if you
give it away. There's some teams that can't. But all
these teams look good enough that you know you've got
to play well. But if they're good, they're okay, So duh, right,
But I do think that's it. There's no gimmes early.
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But if you're gonna make the playoffs, you got to
win more than just your gimmis.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you gotta win your games, you
gotta come out of it. And then really the important
part for me is funny, like we finished with the
same slate of teams that we always finished with.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We always kind of end up with Tennessee and Indianapolis
in some kind of order. The main thing that you
want to do year one new program.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
You want to put yourself in a position where you
went when you get into December, you having a reasonable
opportunity to be able to get into the postseason, whatever
that looks like. You want to be playing your best
ball heading into December, new regime.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
New thing, as they're ironing things out.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
You just don't want to fall off the grid, and
then you would like to build some momentum. So there's
some opportunities for this team to build momentum down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
But I'll say this, particularly.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Coming off last year and even though the roster has
been flipped, a lot of it is going to be
how is this team going to handle the storm that
ultimately comes for every team If they have a bad
stretch where they lose two games in a row, potentially
three games in a row, do they have the wherewithal
to navigate their way through it and to get back
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into the race. Last year we saw when they fell
off the wagon, they just couldn't They couldn't get up,
and the same could be said the previous year. Does
this team, over the course of training camp in the
early part of the season, can they develop enough chemistry
enough grit and resilience to be able to handle the
tough moments that happened for every team, whether it's champion
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or not, it's coming. How do we navigate through it?
That will be the determining fact on how good we
will be this season. And it's Liam Cohen's first head
coaching gig. If he's going to have to manage and
handle some of this, We've seen Doug Peterson, right, try
to do that here, and he's been through the battles
before in the NFL. Not his first job here, but
Liam's gonna have to learn how to do that as well.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Job.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Yeah, And I think that's really the when you talk
about culture change and changing the building and all that stuff,
I think that's what it is. There was something that
happened in twenty three when they were eight and three
and Trevor Christian Kirk got hurt and I hate to
always go back to that, but that was just the
theme and something happened where it felt to me like
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the team lost belief. They were a team that believed
in itself into that eight and three start where they
were winning games just gutty right, And I thought I
wrote it often, I thought this was a team that
sort of knows how to win. It's a tough, you know,
kind of thing that all of a sudden just went
away seemingly in like one night, and it never quite
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came back last year. Now, I get everything's new, but
we're still talking about the Jaguars and there's players who
went through that. How how much does that feeling? And
I think we all felt at watching it where in
the last what twenty one twenty two games, there was
always an oh, here we go again. We're like, hey, yeah,
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have it thro other third quarters? Like, well, I can
start writing, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean, so.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
The culture change to me is how much do these players,
like Bucky said, when something bad happens, how much do
they believe that this isn't we are no longer what
we were. And we'll find that out in week two
or three or you know, at some point we'll find
out the answer that question. You don't find it out
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at twelve thirty on May nineteenth.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah, it's funny, John, because I'm gonna say this. I'm
gonna say, like, I'm really impacted by last year, because
I felt like last year we heard all of the
things and I don't want to live in the past.
But I think it's really telling because all summer, all
training camp, we heard about the it's the toughest, grittier team.
This is the hardest training camp that we've ever had.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
The team.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Attack other teams, other teams have talked about how hard
the training camp was, et cetera, et cetera. And then
at the first moment of adversity the Miami game, we
fall apart and we never put it back together, and
and and so it's not the words, it's the actions.
And look it, it's unfair depend this on Liam Cohn
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and those guys.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
To clean up the messes.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
But that's a job.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, a lot, a lot of what we will.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
See and observe is how does he prepare this team
for the hard moments that are going to happen. And
I think, yeah, that'll determine if we're able to get
to the other side and be the team that we
all want.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
To see this team be.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, not to belabor the point, but Travis is fumble
Week one.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I was gonna say that's what started and.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Game.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They still had the lead, but they finished the game.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
My point with that being in the next three, three
or four weeks Travis got a lot of questions handled
it well, a lot of blame from people, Oh, if
he hadn't fumbled, they loose. Well, to me, that was
not it. I mean, yes, Travis can't fumble there, but
that wasn't That loss wasn't on him. You had a lead. Uh,
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it was indicative what happens this year when that happens,
when there's a fumble inevitably, what does the defense do
or vice versa, and do.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They cover the deep over by the safety.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Well or still go in the darn game? Even if
those two events have you don't feel deflated. You'll know
on the sidelines, Bucket more than I will on the
press box, probably be a lot more comfortable to you.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, all of it, all of it, all of it
will will will matter, Like I believe that's the part
that you have to work through.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
You got to build up the mentality, you have to
navigate through it. I think it helps sometimes.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
When you flip the roster like you flip because a
lot of those guys don't have the residual of what
took place, like the previous.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Couple of years.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
When it comes to losing, because when you lose at all,
snowballs at all compounds and does those things. But here's
what I say, and I don't want to continue to
link this team to the Rams, but I will say
we saw the Rams in the last two years start
out one and.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Four and they've been able to bounce back.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Now, Liam was away, it was with Tampa last year,
but lasst One certainly was there and he certainly understands
that the nature and how the team and the conversations
that took place to help the team get out of it.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
To me, that would be the biggest part of training camp.
When we're looking at training.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Camp and we're watching practice due way, are the coaches
deliberately creating at first situation so the team can navigate
their way through it and how they get out of
it and can they build confidence with those things? How
does Trevor Lawrence react have to throwing an interception and
practice or in preseason, what does the team react to
We have to teach the team how to work through
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those things and look, ultimately, how will they learn those
lessons in training camp will help them when they get
to the regular season.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I think one storyline here that again we won't know
until the season, but you know, I do think there's
a possibility that the rookies, particularly Travis Hunter, him being
sort I think he will quickly become one of the
identity pieces on this team and maybe even come to
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define the team just because of his personality. And I
sort of wonder, Bucky, you know, this is a kid
who's used to success. He's not sort of rooted in
the past here.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
And the fact that Gladstone sort of likes and the
team is encouraging young players to play, if that could
help in Hey, you know, we believe we're good. We
don't have a frame of reference for not being good.
The young kids, the children could lead them, if you will,
in terms of the spirit, in terms of the makeup
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of the team, I think that it could be a positive.
I usually and JP's laughing at me because he knows
I hate rookies.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
But.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
They can't lead. They're just kids. They don't know what
they're doing. But in this case, if you're if you're
leaning into that, as James Gladstone likes to say, if
you're leaning into the to the youth, they could help
you change the culture if you have success early. I think,
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and yes I do dislike works, but that look that that.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Is a big part of the thing.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
That's why when we talk about like in its funny
as Joe in terms of intangibly rich, but that is
a big reason why when you're scouting players and you're
selecting players, you want them to come from winning programs
because that winning is a big part of their DNA.
They also understand the sacrifice that's necessary to win. You
want people who when they step onto the field, winning
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is important to them and they're willing to do whatever
it takes to win. That's the best way and the
quickest way to flip the program. You get a bunch
of winners together, you give them a solid plan, and
then you let them go do what they've always done,
which is when well.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
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is in for Tea Pain June second, sticks Kevin Cronin,
Don Felder Old Dominion June sixth. Later in the summer,
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They've added a Rob Thomas show August second as well.
(24:54):
Shanaia is fifty nine years old, you can still bring
the heat, Bucky, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That's okay like that, I mean, like Mike demographic, I'm
okay with.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
That Big Time Rush rolling in here too.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
J don't leave them out. That's July fifteenth.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That's uh.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I still give my son major grief for watching Big
Time Rush when he was a kid.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
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dot com, and I get to show information about the
spring and summer there.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
We've got a happy hour radio tomorrow at four.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Jeff Loghman will be in Austin Lane scheduled to come
in again as well.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The Train we'll talk some ball.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I like that. That's a nice little nickname, the A train.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Is that taking somebody else's the A train, aren't they?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Yeah, your name starts with an A.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Running back from Michigan years ago. But we come on,
we're beyond that. Anthony Thomas I think was his name.
We can we can snack, we can, we can we
can snatched that nickname away from.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
What was your nickname, Bucky?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Bucky. Sorry I did disappoint, but yeah, that was the nickname.
That's that's what it is, what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well, let's do it again next week, Fellas.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, that man a lot of fun. Like more O
T A s.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Are you coming down? You should come down?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I am. I'm coming down next week. I'm watching a
couple I'm gonna take in.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
I'm gonna take in a couple of O t A
practices and be there with my notebook, charting everything, making
sure that I know what's going.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
On, putting the clips and highlight clips on X.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
And you can tell me next week definitively whether the
defense is ahead of the office.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I can tell you right now.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
I'm reluctant to jump all in on the defense just
because of after last year. I have a PTSD with
the tack and all the other stuff, so I'm gonna have.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
To take a little more conservative take.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It's time to time to dial it back a bit.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, time to do that. Yeah all right, Bucky, Yeah, uh,
safe travels, but don't see you before next week.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It should be fun.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I Gocky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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JP Shadwick with John Oser. We're at the Honday Studios
inside the middle of Electric Center. Bucky Brooks is out
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in Los Angeles and the good afternoon, Bucky.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's up man?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
What's going on? Guys? I'm giving you a different look.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
It's a new Bucky Brooks here. It's not where are you,
It's not the backdrop of the office that a Jaguars.
What's what's the shirt?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
What are you rolling with? Today?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
No?
Speaker 6 (00:58):
No, I just I just happened to be in my
son's in my son's room as opposed to like my
typical office. I got some things going on into the
house and so I'm just you know different location.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well, glad you uh, glad you adjusted for us. It's
great to great to see you a lot to get to.
Of course, phase three is here organized team activities and uh,
we're closing in on the end of the off season program.
What eight practices including I guess Wednesdays, uh to go
at ot as and then three mini camp practices on
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the schedule, so not a lot of time left on
the field in this offseason.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And Johnny, you were out there on Monday. I was
You've been around that been a lot of a lot
of online reviews of some of the practice. What did
you see?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I saw a team that was practicing for the first
time in shorts and pads and with a new offense
and new defense. Uh. And I saw a May football practice,
and some of the questions afterward were sort of toward
as if there had been some tragedy with the offense.
And you know, what I saw that I liked, And
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all I really wanted to see was that Bucky the
receivers are really fast. I thought Trevor Lawrence's quote about
Travis Hunter getting in and out of breaks, that's all
I wanted to hear about Travis Hunter. You know, would
that translate with that element of his games. I think
if he can do that, he can get open in
the NFL. And if he can get open, he can
make catches. He's that kind of playmaker. Brian Thomas Junior
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looked to me like a guy who you know, was
great as a rookie and now now he's in the NFL. Man,
I mean like, now he knows how to get open.
Now he's impressive. He looks like he's gonna be dominant
moving forward. And Downy Brown looked really fast. So all
I cared about was sort of seeing some traits, because
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that's all that's all you look for. If you're trying
to evaluate on this, you're missing the boat.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah, I think it's some things that you're looking for
when you first see them. In OTA's one, you got
a new coaching staff, so you're trying to get a
feel for how the team looks as a casual. You're
trying to say, man, do they look organized and structured?
Does it appear to be that this is a group
that is paying attention to detail those things just from
a structural standpoint, new coaching staff, a bunch of young
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coaches trying to figure it out, so like, how does
that look. Then you're beginning to assess the overall feel
of the team. Do you like to speed, the athleticism,
how do they look physically, are they big? Do they
appear to be an imposing type team compared to in
the past, And then you're beginning to look at how
they're going through what they're being asked to do. So
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people have really spent a lot of time talking about
the wide receivers and how fast they are they getting
in and.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Out of the cuts and all of that.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
You're just trying to make sure that there aren't any
glaring red flags that pop up doing this part of
the off season. We can talk about a it's a
scriptive practice in those things and it doesn't matter, it doesn't,
but you just want to make sure that doing these
things that don't matter, we at least look like we
know what we're doing and we're doing it very very fast.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I think what is annually forgotten from fans is, uh,
this is when they practice and they are putting in
a new system where yes, they have done individual work
and some you know, some stuff on the field in
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phase one, in phase two, but this week is the
first time that they these guys have run this offense
anything close to live. And this is the teaching time.
If you're not teaching right now, when are you teaching,
Because there's no time to teach in training camp anymore.
I mean, I'm exaggerating that, but to a point. You've
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got to sort of be ready to go because you're
not working like you used to in training camp. So
this is absolutely designed to teach and to be a classroom.
And I'm not sure you want a Trevor at the
end of OTAs to have completed eighty five percent with
like one interception, because then he's probably checking down every play, right.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So base ol Tooton's getting a lot of We've seen
that before around here.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
We have seen that in you know, Johnny may Gray
point like we have new systems going in on both
sides of the ball, these special teams at stage of
saying because he remained as the coordinator, but offensively, yeah,
you are trying to learn something that's completely different than
the previous system.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The coach is also learning, you know.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
It's one thing to draw these things up on papers,
another thing to begin to see how what they think
the team is going to be able to do is
executed by the players, and do you have to tweak
and adapt to the personnel that you have, particularly when
it comes to Trevor Lawrence. All of those things are
being played out in real time and dependent upon how
the coaching staff les to utilize this process where you're
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pushing the envelope. You're trying to put as much in
as you can to see how the players learn and
retain while also doing they want to admit this some experimentation. Hey,
let's see what these concepts look like on the grass
against this defense. Let's get this on tape so we
can figure out do we like this. Do we like
it enough to install it in training camp and potentially
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use it during the season, or we put it on
tape and then that we've seen it, it doesn't look
as good on the grass as it did on the whiteboard.
All of those things are going into play while also
teaching a bunch of players new fundamentals and new techniques
that are scheme specific so.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
They can execute the jobs. When it comes to it.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
There's a lot of stuff going on, and so we
shouldn't overreact to anything that we see. We'll have plenty
of time to make assessment, assessments and assertions. Once we
get into training camp, preseason games in the first part
of the.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Season, huddle up with the Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You speaking of overreaction, the ozone is a place for
people overreact something. Clips's daily on jauars dot com.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Question and answer.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
If you've never heard of John Ozure, that's what he does.
So one of I think it was today, I think
it was Wednesday. Somebody asked about toot and fumbling of football.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Well, yes they did, and that I was actually going
to bring up because I guess he's fumbled a little
in the past in college. I would say I'm worried
about it. But you know, fumbling on the first on
his first snap of OTAs, you don't want to be
that guy. So I'd be a little more concerned about
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a fumble in OTAs and would an interception in OTAs.
And by concerned, I mean maybe it's a two on
a scale of one hundred, right, I mean, but you
don't want that to be a thing. So I'm not
worried about that. But if you continue to see fumbles
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in practice over time, then you do worry about being
a thing. But I'm going to assume it's not what
this is right.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Yeah, it's one of those things like you want to
make sure the ball security is there and it's only
going if you're putting the ball on the ground. Now,
you want to make the player aware of it because
coming from college to the pros, one of the biggest
difference is how defenders go hunt the ball in the
NFL game, it is a priority. Everyone talks about it
to peanut punch and the way they just rake at it.
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You have to be tight with the ball, making sure
it's high and tight, and then you've got to be
aware of it like front of mind in traffic that
they're always going for it. But it's not something that
you should be overly concerned. It's a coaching point. It's
a teaching point. You can't expect a player to play
like a pro until they get into the pros. And
part of this part of the off season is the
transition from how you played in college to how you
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expected to play as a pro. And so they're going
to be some bumps along the way and some things
that everybody has to learn, particularly with a new coaching
staff coming over implementing their own culture structure, expectations and standards.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I'll tell you what I saw on on Monday that
was really exciting and intriguing. Was I mentioned it at
the top, Brian Thomas Junior. Maybe all the receivers apply
to this, but really him, it looks to me like,
for the first time in a long time, Justin could
have been it and he never worked out here by Blackman,
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But Brian Thomas Junior looks like a guy who is
always going to be open. And I'm exaggerating that, but
you know, when you watch Cincinnati Jamar Chase, you know
you know they can feed that guy the ball and
a lot of trust there. It'd be unusual if they
can't go to him. Travis Hunter looks like a guy
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who's gonna be open a lot, and I think they've
got three or four guys. GM a long time ago
told me for a great quarterback, you need four guys
in the offensive system who you trust can beat a
single coverage and beat it badly that you can't leave
single covered. It looks like they're getting pretty close to
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that here where if you leave a BTJ single covered,
you're gonna lose. It looks like Travis Hunter can be
that guy. I think Dianmi Brown looks like he's got
ways to beat you, so that that gets real interesting
because that's hard to get that high level combination. And
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I kind of think Travis etn might fit in there, Bucky,
I mean it. Yeah, the skill guys on this offense
have gotten really interesting with the addition of Hunter and Brown.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And one of the things that happens if you are
a team that wants to create explosive plays, speed is
the quickest.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Way to be able to accomplish that.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Because when you have a fast team, you can generate
those explosives in a few different ways. One, you can
throw it over the top of the defense too. You
can throw it on crossing routes and they can catch and.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Run and run past everybody.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Three, the space that is created by the threats on
the perimeter can create opportunities for the running game to
pop because now the defense is spread out. What it
appears that the Jaguars have made a concerted effort to
get faster and more explosive, and ultimately that's going to
make the game.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Easier for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
When you are committed to Trevor Lawrence, like the Jaguars are,
and you're paying them the amount of money that you're
paying them. Everything is really about making him comfortable, making
the game easy for him so that his natural talents
can come through. So it's the supporting staff, the supporting casts,
the scheme, everything is designed to make sure that sixteen is.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Able to elevate his game.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
And in a quarterback driven league, particularly in the AFC,
where the quarterbacks are locked and loaded and stacked, we
have to find a way to get Trevor Lawrence to
play an elite level and some of that might be
through the scheming and the personnel that has been put
in place.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The schedule is finally here.
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Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's John Oser, I'm JP Shadwick.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles. Yeah, well that
schedules out Bucky, since we talked, what do you think
like it?
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Look, I like it. I won't go crazy and be like,
oh it's easy, it's hard, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
It is what it is.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I think the main thing that you're looking for very
early is can this team get out to a fast start.
It's been proven like research to tell you that the
first quarter of the season ultimately can determine whether you're
going to be.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
A playoff team or not.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
And if you can race out to Gate to a
three and one or a four in our start, more
than likely you're going to be in the postseason. When
I look at the opening few games, like, there's an
opportunity at Jaguars play well to put themselves in a
position to be in the hunt when it matters down
the stretch. But it's gonna take them playing well. And
the thing about schedules, we never know what teams are
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going to be like. But we know, look, man, the
Panthers coming out the Gate and the Bengals, it's gonna
be interesting playing them in the home opener with Jamar
Chase and T Higgins and those guys. And then you
got some interesting games coming under pipe with a Monday
night game in Kansas City at home. I mean, there's
some tough games, But look, you can't fear who's on
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the slate. You got to go out and play and
so hopefully we hit the ground running, but we've got
to play well.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Out the gate.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, it's an interesting schedule because it's it can be
looked at multiple ways. I think it's a tough five
out of the box and even a tough seven out
of the box.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Ye.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yeah. And you have Carolina, which had a losing record
last year, and then your only team out of the
next seven with a losing record last year with San
fran and they just don't feel like they sort of
feel like Cincinnati to me, like even if they have
a tough season, you feel like with what they are,
they're not gonna be bad coming out of the gate
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the next year. So I think it's tough. And then
at the same time, you have five out of those
seven or home games. So this franchise, the people running
it believe that they're a lot better than they were
last year. So if you're if you're better than you
were last year, then you're about five hundred team, you know,
or maybe better. And if you're that level team, then
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you're supposed to go take advantage of home games and
sort of stay afloat through this tough spot and be
ready to compete when it gets quote more manageable at
the end. So I guess that's kind of a long
witted way of saying. The most obvious thing was that
if if the Jaguars are good, this is a pretty
manageable schedule. If they're giving away games at the end
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like they were last year, then you've got five or
six seven teams that all look like they're the on
a team that can take it from you if you
give it away. There's some teams that can't. But all
these teams look good enough that you know you've got
to play well. But if they're good, they're okay, So duh, right,
But I do think that's it. There's no gimmes early.
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But if you're gonna make the playoffs, you got to
win more than just your gimmis.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you gotta win your games, you
gotta come out of it. And then really the important
part for me is funny, like we finished with the
same slate of teams that we always finished with.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
We always kind of end up with Tennessee and Indianapolis
in some kind of order. The main thing that you
want to do year one new program.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
You want to put yourself in a position where you
went when you get into December, you having a reasonable
opportunity to be able to get into the postseason, whatever
that looks like. You want to be playing your best
ball heading into December, new regime.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
New thing, as they're ironing things out.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
You just don't want to fall off the grid, and
then you would like to build some momentum. So there's
some opportunities for this team to build momentum down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
But I'll say this, particularly.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
Coming off last year and even though the roster has
been flipped, a lot of it is going to be
how is this team going to handle the storm that
ultimately comes for every team If they have a bad
stretch where they lose two games in a row, potentially
three games in a row, do they have the wherewithal
to navigate their way through it and to get back
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into the race. Last year we saw when they fell
off the wagon, they just couldn't They couldn't get up,
and the same could be said the previous year. Does
this team, over the course of training camp in the
early part of the season, can they develop enough chemistry
enough grit and resilience to be able to handle the
tough moments that happened for every team, whether it's champion
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or not, it's coming. How do we navigate through it?
That will be the determining fact on how good we
will be this season. And it's Liam Cohen's first head
coaching gig. If he's going to have to manage and
handle some of this, We've seen Doug Peterson, right, try
to do that here, and he's been through the battles
before in the NFL. Not his first job here, but
Liam's gonna have to learn how to do that as well.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Job.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Yeah, And I think that's really the when you talk
about culture change and changing the building and all that stuff,
I think that's what it is. There was something that
happened in twenty three when they were eight and three
and Trevor Christian Kirk got hurt and I hate to
always go back to that, but that was just the
theme and something happened where it felt to me like
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the team lost belief. They were a team that believed
in itself into that eight and three start where they
were winning games just gutty right, And I thought I
wrote it often, I thought this was a team that
sort of knows how to win. It's a tough, you know,
kind of thing that all of a sudden just went
away seemingly in like one night, and it never quite
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came back last year. Now, I get everything's new, but
we're still talking about the Jaguars and there's players who
went through that. How how much does that feeling? And
I think we all felt at watching it where in
the last what twenty one twenty two games, there was
always an oh, here we go again. We're like, hey, yeah,
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have it thro other third quarters? Like, well, I can
start writing, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I mean, so.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
The culture change to me is how much do these players,
like Bucky said, when something bad happens, how much do
they believe that this isn't we are no longer what
we were. And we'll find that out in week two
or three or you know, at some point we'll find
out the answer that question. You don't find it out
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at twelve thirty on May nineteenth.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Yeah, it's funny, John, because I'm gonna say this. I'm
gonna say, like, I'm really impacted by last year, because
I felt like last year we heard all of the
things and I don't want to live in the past.
But I think it's really telling because all summer, all
training camp, we heard about the it's the toughest, grittier team.
This is the hardest training camp that we've ever had.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
The team.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Attack other teams, other teams have talked about how hard
the training camp was, et cetera, et cetera. And then
at the first moment of adversity the Miami game, we
fall apart and we never put it back together, and
and and so it's not the words, it's the actions.
And look it, it's unfair depend this on Liam Cohn
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and those guys.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
To clean up the messes.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
But that's a job.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, a lot, a lot of what we will.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
See and observe is how does he prepare this team
for the hard moments that are going to happen. And
I think, yeah, that'll determine if we're able to get
to the other side and be the team that we
all want.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
To see this team be.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
Yeah, not to belabor the point, but Travis is fumble
Week one.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I was gonna say that's what started and.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Game.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
They still had the lead, but they finished the game.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
My point with that being in the next three, three
or four weeks Travis got a lot of questions handled
it well, a lot of blame from people, Oh, if
he hadn't fumbled, they loose. Well, to me, that was
not it. I mean, yes, Travis can't fumble there, but
that wasn't That loss wasn't on him. You had a lead. Uh,
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it was indicative what happens this year when that happens,
when there's a fumble inevitably, what does the defense do
or vice versa, and do.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They cover the deep over by the safety.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Well or still go in the darn game? Even if
those two events have you don't feel deflated. You'll know
on the sidelines, Bucket more than I will on the
press box, probably be a lot more comfortable to you.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah, all of it, all of it, all of it
will will will matter, Like I believe that's the part
that you have to work through.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
You got to build up the mentality, you have to
navigate through it. I think it helps sometimes.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
When you flip the roster like you flip because a
lot of those guys don't have the residual of what
took place, like the previous.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Couple of years.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
When it comes to losing, because when you lose at all,
snowballs at all compounds and does those things. But here's
what I say, and I don't want to continue to
link this team to the Rams, but I will say
we saw the Rams in the last two years start
out one and.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Four and they've been able to bounce back.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Now, Liam was away, it was with Tampa last year,
but lasst One certainly was there and he certainly understands
that the nature and how the team and the conversations
that took place to help the team get out of it.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
To me, that would be the biggest part of training camp.
When we're looking at training.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Camp and we're watching practice due way, are the coaches
deliberately creating at first situation so the team can navigate
their way through it and how they get out of
it and can they build confidence with those things? How
does Trevor Lawrence react have to throwing an interception and
practice or in preseason, what does the team react to
We have to teach the team how to work through
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those things and look, ultimately, how will they learn those
lessons in training camp will help them when they get
to the regular season.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
I think one storyline here that again we won't know
until the season, but you know, I do think there's
a possibility that the rookies, particularly Travis Hunter, him being
sort I think he will quickly become one of the
identity pieces on this team and maybe even come to
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define the team just because of his personality. And I
sort of wonder, Bucky, you know, this is a kid
who's used to success. He's not sort of rooted in
the past here.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
And the fact that Gladstone sort of likes and the
team is encouraging young players to play, if that could
help in Hey, you know, we believe we're good. We
don't have a frame of reference for not being good.
The young kids, the children could lead them, if you will,
in terms of the spirit, in terms of the makeup
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of the team, I think that it could be a positive.
I usually and JP's laughing at me because he knows
I hate rookies.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
But.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
They can't lead. They're just kids. They don't know what
they're doing. But in this case, if you're if you're
leaning into that, as James Gladstone likes to say, if
you're leaning into the to the youth, they could help
you change the culture if you have success early. I think,
(23:51):
and yes I do dislike works, but that look that that.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Is a big part of the thing.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
That's why when we talk about like in its funny
as Joe in terms of intangibly rich, but that is
a big reason why when you're scouting players and you're
selecting players, you want them to come from winning programs
because that winning is a big part of their DNA.
They also understand the sacrifice that's necessary to win. You
want people who when they step onto the field, winning
(24:18):
is important to them and they're willing to do whatever
it takes to win. That's the best way and the
quickest way to flip the program. You get a bunch
of winners together, you give them a solid plan, and
then you let them go do what they've always done,
which is when well.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
The dailies play schedule for the spring. In the summer
is rolling along coming up May thirty first, Kodak Black
is in for Tea Pain June second, sticks Kevin Cronin,
Don Felder Old Dominion June sixth. Later in the summer,
two nights of Shania Twain July twenty ninth and thirtieth.
They've added a Rob Thomas show August second as well.
(24:54):
Shanaia is fifty nine years old, you can still bring
the heat, Bucky, that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That's okay like that, I mean, like Mike demographic, I'm
okay with.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
That Big Time Rush rolling in here too.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
J don't leave them out. That's July fifteenth.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
That's uh.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I still give my son major grief for watching Big
Time Rush when he was a kid.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Tickets for him if he wants to go to Dailyesplace
dot com, and I get to show information about the
spring and summer there.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
We've got a happy hour radio tomorrow at four.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Jeff Loghman will be in Austin Lane scheduled to come
in again as well.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The Train we'll talk some ball.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I like that. That's a nice little nickname, the A train.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Is that taking somebody else's the A train, aren't they?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Yeah, your name starts with an A.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Running back from Michigan years ago. But we come on,
we're beyond that. Anthony Thomas I think was his name.
We can we can snack, we can, we can we
can snatched that nickname away from.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
What was your nickname, Bucky?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Bucky. Sorry I did disappoint, but yeah, that was the nickname.
That's that's what it is, what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well, let's do it again next week, Fellas.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah, that man a lot of fun. Like more O
T A s.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Are you coming down? You should come down?
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I am. I'm coming down next week. I'm watching a
couple I'm gonna take in.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
I'm gonna take in a couple of O t A
practices and be there with my notebook, charting everything, making
sure that I know what's going.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
On, putting the clips and highlight clips on X.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
And you can tell me next week definitively whether the
defense is ahead of the office.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I can tell you right now.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
I'm reluctant to jump all in on the defense just
because of after last year. I have a PTSD with
the tack and all the other stuff, so I'm gonna have.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
To take a little more conservative take.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
That's fair.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
It's time to time to dial it back a bit.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah, time to do that. Yeah all right, Bucky, Yeah, uh,
safe travels, but don't see you before next week.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It should be fun.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I Gocky Brooks.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Out of here, John Ozier, I'm J. P. Shattucker. Thanks
to Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunato, and thanks to you for
watching and listening to Huddle up
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