Jaguars Happy Hour | Another Victory Monday, Keys to Jaguars Hot Start

J.P. Shadrick and Pete Prisco are joined by former Jaguars LB Coach Mark Duffner as they review the Jaguars' 26-21 win over the 49ers in Week 4. The first hour is sponsored by Jet Home Loans and the second is presented by Mr. Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is victory Monday, September twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
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Speaker 5 (00:27):
Absolutely welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by
Jet Home Loans. After a Jaguars win, we have a
busy two hours ahead. Here's what's coming up, presented by
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the Jacksonville Jaguars. Complementary football from the Jags. In the
winning result in San Francisco twenty six twenty one, the

(00:49):
defense now still leads the league in takeaways four more
to the Ledger thirteen for the season. We'll get to
all of those. The run game big again, one hundred
and fifty one yards on the ground for the Jaguars offense,
and the pass protection was solid. No quarterback hits at
all on Trevor Lawrence will dig into that it's a

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rarity for the San Francisco front to not have a
hit on the quarterback as well. A former Jags linebackers coach,
Mark Doctor will be in the studio with us at
four fifteen today. Of course, in the second hour, we'll
keep it real about the Jaguars head coach and his
personality and what it means to the Jaguars locker room fanatics,
fan questions around the NFL as well. Austin Lane out tonight.

(01:31):
Pete Prisco certainly is in those. CBS Sports senior writer.
What a win yesterday for this Jags team to go
out to the West coast, Pete and get the job done.
Wasn't pretty at times, but that's kind of the way
they've played so far this year. What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
No, but when you take the ball away, you're gonna
win a lot of games, you know that. And they
took the ball away, and they've been taken it away
all year now sometimes and we found out out in
twenty seventeen taking the ball away masks some of your
problems in some areas.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
But credit to them. Look, this is a different defense.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
They play aggressively, they attack the football, They hit much
differently than they have in recent years, and I think
it shows up JP and they played well. You take
the ball away from the forty nine ers on the road,
you're gonna win that game, and he turned it into
seventeen points too, So that was the good news of that.
But that's a good win against an undefeated team. Now

(02:28):
there was an undefeated team that has injuries. It has,
you know, the quarterbacks banged up. It also has you know,
no Kittle, no Bosa. You know they're down two of
their big stars. So but still you go on the
road and you win that game. That's a big win,
particularly after the horrors.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
That has been California for them over the years.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
So I give him a lot of credit for doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It wasn't always pretty. You mentioned it.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
The offense wasn't great at times, but I think you
in there no matter how you get it done, you
go get a win. That's a big win for the Jaguars.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, four takeaways could have been five. There was another
fumble on the ground as well, and of course the
punt return touchdown was big to put the Jaguars up
two scores in the third quarter when the offense was
a little bit stagnant in the second half. And so
all three phases really contributed to this one. I'm curious,
you know, you're talking about all these punches and interceptions,

(03:24):
the takeaways. There was a lot of talk after the
game and again today about you know what we're doing
that in practice, they're punching the football. In practice, they're
doing these things. Did they not do it before in practice?
Why now all of a sudden is this a thing?

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well, clearly they didn't coach blocking and tackling in the
last regime either.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I mean you really want to look at it.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I mean the offensive line, there's not much change there
and they're that much better.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And so I think.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Coaching matters, and this staff has done a really nice job.
JP I really have across the board. You know, they
just I think when you look at it, you can
see a difference in the group. They play with energy,
they play with enthusiasm. You know the opening drive, they
you know, they hit them with that throwback like they
always do to the fullback on the opening play, and

(04:14):
you know, there was a bus there and he's wide open,
and then they go down and they look like they're
going in you know, gonna make this one of those
games where you go, oh no, you're in California and
you're down twenty one to nothing. But they didn't. They
rallied around that, and I thought that's a sign of
a of a young team that is coach well a
and believes in itself. And you know you, look, you
gotta you get breaks, but you make breaks too, And

(04:36):
I think that's that's the difference in this team this year,
is they're making breaks and they're taking advantage of them.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Taguars defense, to your point, that opening drive was thirteen
plays six and a half minutes, and they held them
to a field goal. They were driving in deep in
the red zone there, and then later in the first
half another one twelve play drive and then Ben don't break,
hold them to field goals. Do what you can when
you can defensively, even if it's not one well and
battle through. And then they got the takeaways in between

(05:03):
there as well.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I mean, look, let's be real that there's no Kittle,
there's nou.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
You know what, Hey, nobody cares Pete. Nobody cares Pete,
but nobody cares Pete.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
And Pierce and then Pierce all went out, So yeah,
it made it easier to defend, but they made the plays.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And look, I'm not going to take away from it.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm impressed by what I've seen from this team so far.
How could you not be. I mean, how could you
not be to go on the road and beat the
forty nine ers in their place physically beat them too,
by the way, Yes, I think that's that's very telling.
And really this team should be four and oh.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah their call away from from being four and oh,
but they're three and one. It's what they are right now.
We're Jaguars Happy out of course, ten to excel, Jaguars
dot Com and Jaguars YouTube coming up shortly. Coach Mark
Duffin will be in the studio with us to recap
this one's touch on the offense. Now, Pete, you know
they ran the ball well one hundred and fifty one yards.
Travis Junior breaks free for a forty eight yarder, really

(06:03):
well blocked on the outside on that play and just
continues to show really fantastic improvement this year. But the
offensive line as a whole, they had guys dinged up
all day yesterday. I mean, Ezra Cleveland wasn't right coming
into the game, it felt like, and.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Then and that showed a little bit because he wasn't
as good as he had been in the previous three games.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
That's right, And then the right guard comes out of
the game, the right tackle comes out of the game
and they just keep on going. And not only the
running game, but the quarterback wasn't hit. Zero quarterback hits
for the San Francisco defense for the first time since
twenty fifteen. That's impressive.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, that's impressive.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
And again they got the ball out of his hands quickly,
which helped. And they also don't have Nick Bosa, and
Nick Bosa is kind of the heart and soul of
that pass rush. And they have a bunch of young
guys and you know they Williams, the first round pick,
is going to be a good player. It's going to
take him a little while. I think when you look at,
you know, some of those other guys on the interior.
Young Huff is a better but you know, he's not

(07:02):
a great player, So I think, Yeah, the line has
been one of the most improved units across the league,
to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
They've run the ball, they've protected, they play with an.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Attitude, and this play was just so well blocked and
it wasn't necessarily the lineman. Yeah, look at if we
could run that play again. What's strange on this play?
He takes the guy into the.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
Sideline Strange and Thomas Junior too, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Brian Thomas Judi's downfield blocker.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
But Strange made the big block because he just roots
him out of there and drives him to the sideline.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Look at that.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, I mean that's just that's what he does. And
so yeah, I think the run game has been good
and effective, and they've run it when they needed to
run it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
And you know, you's seeing Tooton getting his carries. Now
what do you end up with on Sunday? What was
his yardage number?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Shooting four for fourteen on the ground.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, I mean, look, they they are pushing people around
and again here's the run.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
We can see it. Wat's strange. I mean, look at
that drive. He kind of got in on the Brian
Thomas block. He killed this guy so much.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
So I'm impressed by the way they run the ball.
Haines he's been a really good player in the middle.
And Harrison when he's you know, he got banged up,
like you mentioned, it went out, but he's been good too.
He's one of the he's one of the most improved players.
So I like the idea of running the football. I
have some nitpicky on the offense, I.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Mean you did. We've got plenty of time to get
into him tonight.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
But I like the idea of running the football and
they're physical and that that that dictates tempo of games
and you control the game.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
If you can do that.

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Yeah, the physicality part of on both sides what they
wanted to do since they came in here the offseason,
like we're you know, when all things else fail, we're
going to beat the hell out of you physically and
see to the chips fall.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
And you know what, JP, that's the whole misconception about
Liam Combe was that he was coming in to throw
it all over the place. The basis in the genesis
and the origin of his offense is running the ball
and run the football, and that's what they've done. Now
they need to get more off of that run. I'm
a big believer in they're getting big plays in the

(09:14):
run game by running it, so I'm giving them that,
But we need to see big plays in a passing game. Yeah,
that has to come. And there are reasons when you
watch the tape why they're not happening.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
We'll dig into a lot of those a little later
in the show. The one play that did happen, and
I think had a big impact on the early part
of this game, if not the entire game as a whole.
Was the third and long that was caught by Travis
Hunter over the middle. I mean a double catch. I mean,
if they don't make this catch, the Jags are punting
from their own end zone and a seven to three game,

(09:48):
early second quarter, and who knows what happens after that, Right,
they continue the drive after this on a third and
fifteen and go down and score and make it fourteen
to three, And that just changed the whole dynamic of
what the Jaguars are trying to do early.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, and look, it's a great catch.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
The throw, as is the case usually these days with
Trevor Lars the throw is high, but he goes up
and makes the play. And look, the guy tried to
knock the ball away from him and it was going
to get knocked away and he kind.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Of pulled it back in again.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
So and then it ends up leading to this Hunter
long touchdown catch, which by the way, was a great throw.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
He had to be right precision throw, and.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
It was I thought the throw before that when he
was bootlegged out to the right and threw the Hunter
Long I think it was on the sideline. Was another
really good throw, so it was a good catch. It
was a you know, a good throw, not a great throw.
You had to put it over the linebacker, so it
got a little high on it. But great play by
Travis Hunter to make make that catch and then kind

(10:50):
of you know, leads to this where you get Hunter Long,
you know, kind of stock blocking and then coming off
and making a play and a really good recognition and
an easy throw for Trevor Lard.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So it was I like glimpses of what you see
in that passing game.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
There's still too much that I'm from my liking and
it's not and I'm going to say this is not
just the Jaguars. Passing numbers are way down in the NFL.
Across the board.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
You know, the.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Completion percentage dame by the way they passed field.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
But completion percentages are way up and passing yards are
way down and yards.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Per attempt, So figure it out. What happens.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Teams are playing so much off coverage and coaches are
scared to take shots into that coverage that they're just
checking the ball down and taking the quick.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Throws, and you know, think about this JP. I looked
this up the other day.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Five of the top fourteen completion percentages all time happened
last year.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Really yeah, Gino two, Burrow two others, five of the
top fourteen all.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Time because they're keeping it scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
So I went back and looked just ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Ten years ago, Kirk Cousins led the league in completion
percentage at sixty eight nine.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
I think it was. I went we looked at the
numbers heading into this week. I think there were thirteen twelve.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Guys or something eleven twelve guys that were above that
or right there with that.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
What are we doing? What are we doing?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
You know what we're doing. We're seeing a lot of
coaches scared to let it go. We're seeing a lot
of quick throws because they're scared of their offensive line.
Remember what you used to play cover two teams? And
I can reference a play in Jaguars history that will
bring this into focus. They played the Buffalo Bills one
year up in Buffalo and Doug Flutie was the Bills quarterback.

(13:00):
In the game, the Jaguars were going to cover two
and the Bills ran four verticals and it puts the
safety the deep safety in a one of the two
deep safeties or both of them actually in a tough
spot because they got to figure out which one to
go to on either side of the field. He made
the wrong decision. He hit a shot down the field,
and Buffalo won the game. And so I think when

(13:22):
you look at it from that standpoint, I don't see
enough coaches challenging down the field, and Jacksonville's one of them,
by the.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Way, is that they're watching or is that quarterback execution
that we can dig into that a little later.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
I think we can dig into We'll dig into that
because I think it's a little bit of both that
maybe they're not willing to do it with the quarterback
or with those wide receivers just yet. And you know
the other thing is when they do get play match,
we get caught and zones they get sometimes they sit down,
like I said last week, instead of going in through

(13:56):
carrying through to the next window. And there's plays where
if Trevor would just wait one tick, he's got to
throw behind it for a relatively big play. And I
think there was one where he threw the strange on
a short throw.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
And it was completed.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
But if he had waited a tick, he had Parker
Washington behind it. Then there was another one early in
the game where he had Parker Washington deep that he
doesn't even throw it.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Then he had Parker with the one.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
He had Parker Washington while we threw through the strange
he had Parker Washington on one of those deep overs
as he's coming across and there's nobody there.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
It would have been It would have been a touchdown,
but it would have been a forty yard pass completion.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Wow. Well, we'll dig a little deeper on that and
the lack of deep plays offensively through the air for
the Jaguars. Coming up, We've got plenty of head though.
We'll return with former Jags linebackers coach Mark Dufner and
studio Pete.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I love it. We'll get duff in there, man man
nos ball, we.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Know that certainly does. We'll get his insights on the
Jags defensive performance yesterday in the second hour. Of course,
fanatics fan questions will keep it real about the Jaguars
head coach and his personality and what it does for
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(15:19):
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Speaker 6 (15:27):
Yeah, I'm playing good football. You know, I think as
a team, we're all playing good football. And ultimately, you know,
I'm just focused on playing my best for the team
so that we can win.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
You know, is a great team win.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
This is.

Speaker 6 (15:39):
It was complimentary ball and everybody was playing together and
believe throughout the whole court, throughout the whole game. So
just prout of everybody and like I said, we're all
playing off each other.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Devin Lloyd after the win yesterday and Santa Clara against
the San Francisco forty nine Ers Jaguars over the Niners
twenty six twenty one is Jaguars Happy Hour sent to Excel,
Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Glad you're with us today,
JP Shadwick, Pete Prisco Austin Lane is out, but former
Jags linebackers coach Mark Duffner is in. Douff good to

(16:13):
see you.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Good to see you too, JP, Pete, good to see you.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
It's tough duff in the media Now, I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
While I'm learning right now, I'm kind of a rookie,
but I'm learning. But thank you, Pete.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, it's always good to see Duff.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
You know that he's been doing great stuff for us
Pete on Thursdays on Jaguars Happy Hour. But why not
right after a game, and let's start with the guy
who just saw on your screen right there? Devin Lloyd.
Eight tackles, two interceptions. I mean, I'm curious, Duff, what
are they doing different with Devin Lloyd now that they
weren't before? Like, why all of a sudden is this

(16:49):
production happening.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think they're letting him play.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
My guess is that they're taking making things as simple
as they can for the entire defense. That's why you're
seeing the pursuit, the effort to finish that you are
where they're making these plays in terms of the takeaways
and everything else. So I think that they've recognized what
his strengths are.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
They're letting it.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
They're taking whatever assignment football was an issue away and
letting the guy go. And he's playing like crazy, like
you said, productive day, two passes, defensive tackle for loss.
I mean, he's everywhere and he's physical too, and he's
making plays in the open field, tackling in the open field.
That comes now when you're confident. So he's playing with
a lot of confidence, a lot of production.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
You know, it's interesting because he's trimmed down and that
shows up. He's playing much faster, like you said, Duff,
and he's not blowing assignments like he did in the
last couple of years. And he just looks like a
different guy. And sometimes when you simplify it, you just
go play. It makes it so much easier on them.
And he's playing to that. The other thing at play

(17:50):
here is chi ching, Chi ching, chi ching. The guy's
in the contract year too. I mean, let's be real, well,
this play is good timing for Dayvan Lloyd and right
now he's been one of the better linebackers in the
league and might be one of the most improved players
in the league, which is absolutely incredible.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
And I again, I go back.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
To the coaches, like you said, Douff, letting them be free,
play loose, play free when they put so much on
his plate. You saw him last year he got caught
in coverages and busted coverages and did they had to
line them up. I think this is the best thing
for him, to allow him go play free and.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Loose, no question about it.

Speaker 7 (18:26):
I mean, he's playing fast and that's what you'll hear
defensive coaches talk all the time. Boy, we want to
play fast and physical. Well, how do you do that?
You do it by putting less in their pockets? In
terms of a linemans this or not a lignements, but
a shie mentioned too much thinking and you take the
thinking out.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
And let him go right now. And he's certainly personifying
that in his play.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
You know, it was weird. We saw a lot of
that in camp too, like even the old stuff with Lloyd.
There's a lot of blown coverages in training camp and like, okay,
is this the same thing? And then all of a
sudden the seasons come around and whatever Anthony Campinellian staff
have done with him so far as showing up peach JP.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Have you ever had a guy over when you were
coaching that you simplified it. He became a different player,
you know, like he struggled early on, and then he
became a different player when you simplified it.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yes, yes, I have, and I think that's what's going
on here. I think in training camp JP two Pete,
I think they were, you know, they were installing a
lot of the defense.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
They're trying to get their defensive scheme in.

Speaker 7 (19:22):
Once you get to the game plan the game week,
the game plan narrows, and so I think that his
assignments have been less as far as that's concerned for
the entire defense. And that's why you're seeing the speed
of the players across the board. They're around the ball,
and this kid's been a ball magnet. I mean, it's unbelievable,
but it's not happening if they're thinking, to me.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Who's the player that you've simplified for it helped them
move ahead or names?

Speaker 7 (19:46):
Well, sure, I go back when I was at Green Bay.
This is years ago before I came here in six
I had a middle linebacker by the name of Torrence
Marshall played at Oklahoma.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, a good.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Physical player, great looking guy. Well, when we went in there,
I he was not making plays and you got to say, well,
why is he not doing that? And ultimately I think,
including me, we put too much in his pockets. And
when you do that, you're going to slow them down.
So the more that you can make them clearly understand
their assignments. Now they can study the opponent. They're not

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learning the defense again during game week. They can study
the indicators and the tendencies or the opponent, the personnel
of the opponent. Now they can play, can and diagnose
and play fast love that.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Of course, the pass rush has a bunch to do
with this as well. When you get takeaways in the
back end, the rush speeds up some things. And they've
had it consistently this year. They don't have the sack numbers,
but they are getting right there around the quarterback. And
did it again yesterday Josh heines Allen against Trent Williams
a lot of the day and then Treymon Walker was

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out of the game with a risk issue. We'll see
what that has moving forward. It was a report today
that he's seeing a specialist about his wrist, and you know,
fortunately there's a long week this week before Monday Night football.
We'll see what the diagnosis is moving ahead for Trayvon Walker.
But put a cast on that thing, go play, Put
a club on it.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Put a club like the old days. Remember, as they.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Pat him up, they'll put black tape on it and
let them go.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
But what you said, is was indicative from the very
first drive on defense. Armistead showed up in pressure on
the first drive. Walker shows up in pressure on the
first drive. Lloyd did too and made a good tackle.
And it was consistent through the game. As you mentioned,
heinz Allen all the way through, but even late in
the game on a scramble down low red zone it
was Lloyd that forced Purty out of bounds where they

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had to kick.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
A field goal.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
So and that's the other thing they're doing with them,
and too they're using him in terms of blind games
and blitz is to you know, pop holes into the protection.
So again, good use of are players. I think the
coaching staff's really utilizing the players to their scheme to
I mean, to their skills rather than to make them
fit into the scheme they do.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Got to start getting them on the ground.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I mean, you know, runting the pressure, but you gotta
start getting guys on the ground. I love pressure, you
got to you gotta start putting people on the ground.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Those things change. Pressure does one thing.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Sacks change the feel when you dump a guy for
twelve yards and it's you know, second and twenty two,
it just changes the feel of the game, so they
got to start getting sacks.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I thought Mason Smith, I watched the tape today.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
He got a little push inside on Sunday, which I
think that's starting to come a little bit too.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You know, it wasn't great.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
He wasn't great in the run game, but he was
pushing the pocket and pass game, and I think he
had a tip. I actually think he tipped the interception
that that Lloyd had, So I think he's starting to
come a little bit because they need.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
That push in the middle. You gotta get more pressure
in the middle of that defense.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
Pete, You're one hundred percent correct, because that takes away
the quarterbacks ability to step up and really get his
feet shuttle where he can throw. And so internal push,
like you said, and I saw it too, Mason Provided
and the rest of guys, that's going to affect the
quarterback big time. That's the idea. Let him off the spot.
I'm with you, get him down, but let's get him
off the spot. Let's get him thinking where are they
and rush that quarterback.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I asked Josh Eines out in the locker room last week,
you know, how do you you know you have all
these pressures you and Trayvon and how do you how
do you get that to sacks? He just kind of
looked at me. He's like, well, you just keep having pressure.
That was his answer. That was the old answer, was
just keep pressured and sometimes they're going to break through
and get the quarterback on the ground.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
When it's when it's coordinated rush like Pete was talking
about internal nextternal, then that quarterback is gonna run into guys.
It's not only us winning the one on ones that
with the coaches want, but it's a pressure coordinator right
now where the quarterbacks duck alleys or rush lanes are eliminated.
Now he's going to run into us and us hopefully
into him.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Right, If Josh Allen's winning off the edge and there's
nobody winning inside, he can step up away from him,
the tackle.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Can push him by a little bit and he can
you know, throw a pass.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
So that getting Mason Smith or somebody good armsteads though
a little bit to get those two guys pushing the
middle of that pocket will help those other guys start
getting those sack numbers, no.

Speaker 7 (24:05):
Doubt, no doubt about it, and their armsteads strip sack
at the end of the game. How critical was that? So,
I mean, oh, well, the positive thing on this team
is that I think it's been said number of times,
but they do not flinch when when when things happen,
they don't hang their hat.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
They come out and.

Speaker 7 (24:21):
Try to put the fire out, whether it's offense or defense.
And I love the attack and the resiliency of this
team and the belief that you.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Know, we're going to win the game.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
We'll dig into that a little bit more coming up
with you, Duff, and the mindset of the head coach
and the coaching staff to get those players on the
right track to go out physical a team, which they
did again yesterday in San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Right the way, JP, No, thanks to mister seventy one
yard or either by the way, I mean, you got
to make that kick, Sorry.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Dude, you got to make that kick. What you know,
you got to make the field goal?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Field goal in the second half.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
You got to.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
You gotta make that field goal. You're you're you're making
what was it? What are you kick in the preseason
with seventy one yards and they want to stick it
and can't and well he's got to go make that
field goal in the regular in the rate that puts
him up eight.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
I mean, that's an enormous field goal right there.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
He pushed it right the whole way. It didn't even
drift that. Yeah, it was just.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, he's got it. Look, he's got a big leg.
We know that.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
But those kicks are the ones that matter. You go
up eight there, then the Niners have to go get
a touchdown and a two point.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Version just to tie you.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Now they got the ball there, go get a touchdown,
they win the game. So those are the little things
that you know when you really are one of those
dominant teams.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
He makes that kick and then you sack them and.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
The game's over, you know, after the kickoff. That's that's
what has to happen there.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
All right. We'll come back in just a moment and
get back into this Jaguars offense and figure out ways
the Jaguars can push the ball down the field to
the air cuff. We're gonna get some answers out of you, amen,
That's what we're gonna do, and we'll take into more
special teams coming up. There were some positive things on
teams yesterday, some not so positive things also in a
Jaguars win and from the backyard of the beaches. The

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Speaker 8 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean, we're it's a great start for us.
Like I've said the last couple of weeks, I mean
it's early in the year still, but the way we've
won a couple of these games, and I think just
in any game, there's gonna be adversity and ups and downs,
and just the way we've handled them has been it's
been awesome. The team's really coming together, getting behind each other,
playing complimentary football. When something happens, we really take advantage

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of the momentum swings. I think that was a big
thing today and we just play a full game. You
don't know what the next play is gonna hold. Just
even if something bad happen to play before, just play
the next play, keep looking forward, and I think this
team's done a good job of that. But we're going
to keep keep doing it.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
That is quarterback Trevor Lawrence after the game in San
Francisco yesterday Jaguars over the forty nine Ers twenty six
to twenty one. Welcome back to Jaguars Happy Hour presented
by Jet Hoolme Loans. JP Shadwick with former Jags linebackers
coach Mark Duffner from the Hyundai Studios of the Middle
or Electric Center, Pete Prisco, with us as always down
in South Florida, and we were taking a look now

(27:29):
at the Jaguars offense and all right, let's start with
some of the good you know and stuff. We pointed
this out during this break and it makes a lot
of sense how this Jaguars offense kind of feels right now.
Was summed up in one long drive to me early
in this game, and it was second quarter. Yeah, Jaguars

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have the lead at seven to three. They just got
the Lloyd interception, the first interception, so they're set up
at their own twenty seven yard line. They go thirteen
plays eighty nine yards and end up getting the touchdown.
But they overcame what three penalties on the drive, eight penalties,
two holding calls third and one, and they converted two

(28:16):
third downs. The catch to Travis Hunter the long when
and then when it made it third and six. They
threw the Strange for eleven. I mean they're moving backwards,
they're overcoming things, they're throwing it to Strange and Hunter
and then they find the end zone stuff. It's that's
kind of the offense in a nutshell right now.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
I'll tell you what. That was a terrific drive.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
And in that drive, Trevor was eight completed eight straight passes,
So you're talking about execution. They overcame their own stumbles
if you whiffed the penalties as you just mentioned. But
they responded twice in the first half there when when
he got the ball in sudden change at the touchdowns,
the big run by ETN that I heard you and
Pete talk about and Pete was dead on both of you.

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The blocking by Strange and the blocking by beat BTJ
at the end, and that was outstanding. So it's a
team effort right now that they're doing and to respond
like they did and that drive that was magnificent.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
You'd love that as.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
A coach seeing that kind of execution, even when you take.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
A couple of steps back.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
As you mentioned the other thing about the offense, I
think they're fourth in the league right now in time
of possession, and that is a huge component too for
your football team, especially for the defense, because when you
can play ball control offense, your defense is resting, you're
keeping the other team's offense off the field. That's going
to be a key as we go forward, maybe even

(29:35):
this next Monday night. So I would just suggest to
you a lot of positive things in that. We just
got to get the word consistency into our play.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yeah, they make too many mistakes, right, I mean, they
just do. You can't be behind the chains all the
time like they've been. And I'm going to say this
because I watch all the games on Sunday, We're in there.
This is an epidemic across the league snap penalties, and
I think it has a lot to do with training
camp and not playing in the preseason because you have

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so many penalties before the snap and you end up
in first and fifteen and second and twenty and holding past.
It's just so many mistakes that it's hard to get
out from underneath them. But on that drive they did, which,
like you said, Trevor Arts, was fantastic. Now, the thing

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that's missing across the league and missing from this team,
and Duff.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
You'll you'll know this because you're a lineberger. The big
play and the big passing plays are gone.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
They're gone because everybody's playing off that, you know, and
these coaches, in my mind on the offensive side, have
preached so much into their quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Don't turn it over, don't turn it over.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Back in the day, it used to be a three
hundred and forty game with three touchdowns and maybe two picks.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
You see that and you go, Okay, that's the game.
Now they come.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Out of the game and if a guy throws over
two point fifty, you're doing car wheels.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Now, and it's changed, right, if the whole game has changed, No, I.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Think you're dead on. I gotta agree with that one
hundred percent. I think your assessment of execution coming out
of training camp is very accurate because the first few
weeks you're seeing a lot of those pre snap miscues,
if you will, and then the passing game, they're trying
to keep the quarterbacks upright too. They're trying to get
the ball out quick, whether it's the quick the three

(31:40):
step game. There's way more screens than we used to see,
as you can, as you've already announced and talked about.
So I think you're one hundred percent right and protection.
You know whether that now that leads me to this.
Our offensive line, our quarterback did not get touched in
this game. Now, offensive line is playing their back ends off.
I mean when you look at the fact right now

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that they I think they ran for one hundred and
fifty yards. He were about four to seven of carry.
I think we're fourth and rushing maybe now in the
league as far as what they've done. But offensive line
and protecting the quarterback and being able to move the
ball physically has been very strong.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Here's the question I have, Pete kind of to I
think where you were starting to lead here. You know,
how much of this is not scheming it down the field,
or not believing in the quarterback down the field, or
the quarterback not pulling the trigger down the field. There's
a balance here, right people.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I'll give you a Sunday's game, because I just I
watched the tape this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I'll give you a Sunday's game.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
There was an opportunity down the field early in the
game where we had Parker Washington could have hit him,
didn't take it, he passed on it, took the check down.
There was another one where we had an over to
Parker Washington that to the sideline and that he hits that,
he turns it up and it's a forty yard game.
Instead he took the short throw the strange and it worked.
But that's working. That's almost like it's pre in your head,

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take the throw, whereas youve got to get to that
next shot. If they're going to truly get to be
what they need to be as an offense, that shot
has to happen because you can't consistently as we've seen
go down the field that way all the time, it
just doesn't happen. So I think it's a quarterback not
taking him. It's protecting him with the play call. And

(33:22):
because sometimes you're scared of that offensive line. Let's be real,
the offensive line play in the NFL as a whole stinks,
it really does. And the athletes on the other side
of the ball, they're getting faster and tougher and more
athletic than they've ever been.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
So you combine that get the ball out.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like duff said, the coverages are all backed off and
coaches are not willing to take those shots anymore. Duff
I was talking about this earlier when teams used to
play cover two offensives will run four verticals at him
and put the safeties in a bind one way or
the other.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
They got to make a decision. You don't see that anymore.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, you sure don't.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
And that puts major stress on that middle linebacker who
was the run through player, and so the safeties would
try to compensate for him. Like you said, but that
was that was that terrified us on defense was four up.
Like Pete's talking about. Peache's well done. Now, I'm impressed
with your ear diagnosis here, but uh don't.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
He's good. He all the time.

Speaker 7 (34:23):
He was doing it when I was here, and he
and Smitty were on Fridays at five o'clock every Friday,
so he was I learned it.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
I learned back then. He could call it pretty well.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
But yeah, I just think I think that the teams.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
You know, duff I was talking about this the other day,
so I told JP this, five of the all time
top completion percentages.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
In the National Football League happened last year. Yeah, so
you look at it and you go, well, hacked.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
The completion percentages are so high because they're not throwing
it down the field. They're taking the easy throws out
of their hands, and if that's the way you're gonna play,
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
But I think, like for example, Sunday, the Rams.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
The Rams are in a game with the with the
with the Colts. You know it's a tight game. They're
backed up in their own end. They get Manna man
coverage too to Watwell, goes by his guy, and they
hit a ninety yard shot for a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Game over. You win the game that way.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I think we're gonna start seeing more of that, and
I think the Jaguars need.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
To get more to that too, and they will. I
think as you get more.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Comfortable with Travis Hunter playing offense, Brian Thomas gets back
to what he was, I think those will start to come.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
I mean, can we just line up properly first? They
did that finally, right, check that box, no illegal shifts.
They didn't have the false start right. I meant start
with that, and then you can build up towards this
as the season goes along. Maybe I don't know. That's
all the way I love it.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
By the way, I'm gonna say, I told you this
JP one of their best false start penalties of the
year happened on the fourth and one, because man, he
wasn't going for us. Okay, I mean I was like
it was a score at that point.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It was they were up. You don't give them. I
think they were up by eleven at that point.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Maybe no, oh, I'll find it, Pete.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I think it was they were up eleven.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
You're just across your you're not even at mid field.
You have a fourth and one. Why give them life?
Why would you even consider.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Going for that? Now he could come on here and
tell me he wasn't going to snap the ball.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
It was just going to be a uh, you know,
try and draw him off and then punt the ball.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
But if you were really going for that, that's just dumb.
It makes no sense to me.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
But coaches these days Pete like this, to.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Look at the situation.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
You're up eleven, they haven't really done a whole hell
of a lot pun them.

Speaker 7 (36:50):
In wait to back up something that Pete just talked
about in terms of the short throws. Remember last week,
as we were watching San Francisco and there are other
quarterback when he was in the game, he was like
twenty out of twenty one on throws that had airtime
of less than zero to nine yards or in that
range quick throws. I mean, that's where he was and

(37:11):
that's what as they said, I think, I think you're
dead on.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
That's early on.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
That's where the safety zone their comfort zone right now,
and trying to move the changes, get the ball out,
quick throw, the short throw, and they are nervous about
the deep ball. But when you get the deep ball rolling,
oh boy, it opens up everything else. And that coupled
with a quarterback every once in a while when he
doesn't have it in this progression tucket and run, you
do that and that's going to again take steam off

(37:36):
the rush.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
No, for the rotations right before the snap that much
different than they were, you know, even ten years ago.
You know, safeties rolling at the snap or because everybody's
trying to portray it as the defenses are ahead of
the offenses. Now they play that rotation game and the
offenses can't you know, is it that much different in
your mind?

Speaker 7 (37:57):
I think that not that much different. No answer a question, Pete.
I think that the coaches are doing a good job
of trying to hold disguise to the last minute so
that the quarterback can't tell and they try to move,
you know, as a snap occurs. That's probably where the
defenses are better than when not too long ago. But
and anything you can present to the quarterback after the

(38:18):
snap it's different than what he saw a pre snap
is to your advantage. So I think that's what they're
trying to do.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
All right, guys, let's come back in a moment, one
more segment, tough, you have time.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
I'm here for as long as you need.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Let's dig it. We'll get into special teams, including a
punt return touchdown that really was needed in a big
moment for the Jaguars yesterday. Of course, in the second
hour we'll have fanatics, fan questions. We'll keep it real.
Plenty more ahead. It is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by
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Speaker 1 (38:45):
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Speaker 5 (39:32):
Hey, game ball.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Let me get a stameball real quick.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Eric Armstead, where are you at, Liam Cohen in the
Jaguars locker room at Levi's City you yesterday after the
Jags went over the forty nine ers, welcome back in
this Jaguars halfy hour presented by Jed home Loans, j P.
Shadwick P. Prisco marked up with us for the final

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few minutes of this opening hour of the program tonight,
and we'll get to the coach there in just a moment.
But part of that speech was the Parker Washington punt
return touchdown eighty seven yards, his second career punt return score.
Both of them, by the way, are on booming punts
to kind of drive him back, opens up some space
and he's taking advantage of it.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Oh, tremendous, tremendous blocking by the team, and then again
you watch him looking for the lanes and the holes
in their coverage.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
It's awesome.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
And when you score, typically when you score on a return,
whether it be punter, kickoff return, it's a strong indicator
percentage wise to win the game. What a great, great return,
you know, I think that right now that they had yesterday,
I think one hundred and ninety eight yards in return yards.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 7 (40:41):
I mean, that's terrific job by the special teams, Coach
Farwell and.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
The staff there.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
He's such a good football player, you know, if you
watch him as a return man.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
He's good at that. You watch him as a receiver
and he's tough and he's you know, does a lot
of good He'll block, catch the ball. He can do
so many different things. He's a great guy to have
on your team.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
This might have been a block in the back by
the way they might have got away with what on
that one, But it's still.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Watching him play, you wish you had a lot of
guys like him.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
He's that kind of guy you look at, you know,
you always say I wish I had twenty two of
those guys, Like when you watch the Raiders play, you
wish you had twenty two guys that played by like
Max Crosby.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Well, you wish you had a lot of guys that
played like Parker.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Washington because he cares and you can tell he cares.
He's a great guy to have on your roster.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
Demonstrates great energy. Like you said, he'll do anything. He'll
block on offense, he makes catch his big plays. He's
got the big play ability he's demonstrated right there.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
I'm with you on that. I think he's second in
the league right now in return, so good for him.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Pretty good baseial suit and had a nice kickoff return
to set up points before halftime. Now they also nearly
blew it before half with the throw in bounds with
no timeouts left. That's another story altogether after that, but
the kick and I roll out of Pete with with
that one. But they got the kickoff. You get to
go on.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Then that's not forget about Let's not forget about Trevor
going out of bounds late and they get down.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
That's another yeah, out of bounds.

Speaker 6 (42:12):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
Unfortunately on special teams a couple other things did not
go well. You mentioned cam Little's miss in a big
moment late that would have put him up eight. But
with Quinn Allen Junior stepped out of bounds on a
kickoff return. If the right foot would have been out
of bounds before they would have got the ball. It's
the strags what he should do.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
That's what you should do.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
They teach that actually sometimes, so must.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Have taught it to him recently then, because he forgot
about it.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
So some things happened from times to time, and in
live game action duff it happened.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
And by the way, the opening kickoff that they should
have challenged that, did you notice that they opened a
kickoff was a fumble. Mmm, Jerry and Jones pulled the
ball out as the guy was going to the ground,
and I watched it today, it would have been close,
but you might have had a challenge win there because

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they recovered it to get the ball and set the
tone for the rest of that game.

Speaker 7 (43:05):
Oh, that would have been something that would have been
a major league Well that's again, good job getting the
ball out and dog going.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
And I wish we would have talents that were aware
of it. That would have been you.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
They did it all day on defense and the fairly
unspecial teams too. Duff. Final thoughts with you here as
we're coming up on the end of the opening hour
here of this program. We heard Liam calling in the
locker room. You see the reaction from the players when yeah,
win and loss. We've seen it in that locker room setting.
But to go win a game like that on the

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road and then to see the passion out of the
head coach both on the field after the game and
in the locker room after the game, that gives you
the leadership you need.

Speaker 7 (43:43):
No question about it. I personally love it. I mean
you can see now, I mean he is in it
from the bottom of his feet to the top of
his head. I mean, great energy, great enthusias. Have used
the word passion. I saw it out in practice during
a few times I was out in training camp. I
liked how he connected with the players. He didn't he
wouldn't just stand there like a statue.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
He was active.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
You know.

Speaker 7 (44:04):
He's not afraid to call players out, whether it be
on the field and practice or in the locker room,
whatever the case may be. And I really like the
players appreciate that, and they know that this guy is
a genuine guy that cares about him, that's got personality,
that's got enthusiasm, and that's what this game is all about.
So I'm big time in the corner of this guy.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Oh he's willing to throw right crosses for him, right,
I mean after the game.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
As I like that, and so, you know, I know
he was a quarterback, but Jezel Pete he kind of
acts like a linebacker.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
You know.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
I kind of like that about him.

Speaker 7 (44:41):
He's got some he's got the tough toughness and physicality
and him that he's talking about to the team.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, he might not. He might not have wanted to
mess with that guy.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah, No, probably not good thing. Haines and the security
guy were there because I mean.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I mean, uh Sala runs stadium step for like an
hour before the game, and he's quite crazy.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
It might have been ugly, yeah, but it is a
refreshing sound to hear a head coach like that around here.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
Oh yeah, and you could see the locker room. And
of course it was after victory, but he's that way
even winter and loss. You're getting the heart and soul
of this guy. And then when it's genuine like that,
the players know that you care like that. That motivates
them to do even more. They don't want to let
the guy down. And that's a plus.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I think. Yeah, and you didn't.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
You didn't know what you would get from that stamp.
You never know when you hire a guy as a
head coach, what is he going to be? You know,
great coordinators never sometimes don't always turn into great coaches.
And I tell JP this all the time. Tony Dungey
and John Osher could tell this, used to say it
all the time. You had to learn to be a
head coach. It's not just clawing ball plays.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
You got to be the head guy.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
And this guy after three games or four games, looks
like he gets it, and that's the most important.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
You didn't know, he had no idea. We didn't know
who he was. You didn't know who he was as
a as a as a person, as a coach.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Now you have an idea, and I think the players,
like you said, Duffy, they rally around him.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
Pete, I'll say this to you, he didn't know how
he was going to be. You never know how you're
going to be as a head coach until you get
that opportunity. And and you know you've you've watched a
lot of people, you've learned along the way as we're
doing anything.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
But he didn't even know. I just like the path
that he's on right now. I think it's very sincere.

Speaker 7 (46:25):
I think it's you know, high energy, and like I said,
I think the players are, as we've all said, rallying
behind him.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
Duff Thanks for coming in today. Always a great insight.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
JP you and Pete. I love being with you. I
hope to do it again. Don't get amnesia.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
If you need me, well definitely won't. We'll definitely have
you again.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
A week four.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Don't attack me now, Pete. I see it. Ble's mentality
from you now. Keep keeping Vanilla.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Now back with the second hour of the program coming up.
Fanatics fan questions, will keep it Real? All that is ahead.
This is Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

Speaker 9 (47:21):
And we saw the video of you down on the
field with coach after our coach saw after the game.
A lot of the players did too. The guys say
they kind of like seeing that firiness from you, that
that you kind of take it real personal. Is that
something that like you know that the guys are gonna
they want to see that side of you sometimes that
that helps show the locker room.

Speaker 10 (47:41):
I mean, I think we're all competitive, right, Like, we're
all competitive in this. You know, we're playing a competitive
sport for our jobs, and you know, we're all in
it together. And I appreciate everybody obviously playing the way
that they played, the physicality, the chip on their shoulder
right now that we're playing with and as much as

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our locker room can continue to buy into that edge
and playing with an edge and competing with an edge
and preparing with an edge, I only think it's gonna
help us as we move forward as a team.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
That is Liam Cohen earlier this afternoon on a zoom
call with the media at day after the Jaguars win
over the San Francisco forty nine ers and welcome back.
It's the second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game, and
during the game. And of course the Jaguars won in
Santa Clara yesterday, first ever win for the Jags on

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the road against San Francisco in now three tries all time.
The Jags defense with four takeaways and now a league
best thirteen for the season through four games. And as
you heard earlier from Liam Cohen in the locker room,
first time ever the Jags have had three or more
takeaways in four straight games. What a start to the season.
And of course now the Jaguars scored seven teen points

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off those turnovers, they lead the league. And yes, both
takeaways and yes points off those turnovers as well. Travis
et in junior one hundred and twenty four yards on
nineteen carries. He's now third in the league in rushing,
trailing only Jonathan Taylor and James Cook. And the Jags
offensive line had some starters out late and still perform
no hits in the quarterback all day long, and of

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course that great rushing performance up front. Special teams made
an impact. Parker washington eighty seven yard return touchdown the
second in his career. Penalty issues still though twelve penalties
in the game, still some pre snaff issues getting lined up,
the play clock winding down, passing game down. The field
still feels a little bit shaky at times. But the

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Jaguars are three and one. That's the bottom line. And
it's only the eighth time and thirty one seasons the
Jaguars have been three and one or better, so they're
in a good spot coming into Monday Night football this week.
The Kansas City Chiefs come to town in week five
and tickets are available. Well, this place needs to be
packed out for Monday Night. Pete Prisco with me, JP

(50:04):
Shatrick with you, and yeah, Monday.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Night, I hear the games. The tickets are hot commodity,
so if you want to go, you better go get them.
Remember two weeks ago or last week on here I was,
I was mocking that crowd a little bit for what
showed up against the Texans. So it'll be interesting to
see how packed it is, and I think it can

(50:26):
be like not.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
It won't be a playoff game type crowd, but it
could be close, you know.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
And it's the Kansas City Chiefs, it's the Marquis team.
Hell is Taylor Swift going to show up at the game.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
We don't even know that.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Yeah, might leave early when the Jags are up by
three touchdowns, but that's okay.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yeah, well yeah, you're how are they going to take
twenty two passes down the field to get a touchdown?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
JP's what you're saying. Hey, the Chiefs are no better
by the way they thinking dunk too.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
Yeah they can't.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
But no, I think it's a it could be a
great atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
The fact they want at San Francisco probably helped ticket
sales today.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
And I think it's gonna the buzz is gonna build
throughout the week. You know, es Pan's gonna be here
next week. It's just it's good to see and and
I think if you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Go buy tickets, go to the game, go buy the
damn tickets. You're and we understand me, and you understand
why there's a little there was a little apprehension. I mean,
it's understandable.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Sure that should be going now you're three and.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
One and if you look at this division, the Colts lost,
so you're now tied with them. The Titans are a disaster.
The Texans can't score. You know, they scored against the Titans,
but that was against the Titans. Uh So it's it's
winnable and and the fans need to realize that it's winnable.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
So go out and buy the tickets and get make
that place crazy.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
This is what NFL football is and should be a
year after year or moment. One's like this coming up
Monday night against the perennial AFC power, the dynasty of
record right now in the NFL, and an up and
coming Jaguars team still has some flaws, some things are
working on put They're three and one and the Chiefs

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are fining a way to get some wins. And they've
they've won two in a row after dropping the first two.
If you don't come to this one, I mean, this
is what it's built for right here, Pete.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I will say this about that game coming up. The
Chiefs got the offense.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Cranked up a little bit against Baltimore. You know, get
Worthy back changes, dynamic in the offense, he can go.
They protected better, they ran it a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
But the thing that stood out to me was that defense.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Bagnola in the last two weeks has that defense played
really good football.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
And they're gonna be a real challenge for this offense.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
And that's why I talk to you about getting shots
down the field, because if you don't edits drive run,
short throw run, oh penalty first and twenty, or you know,
false start first and fifteen, or you have a like yesterday,
third and one, the play's late getting in, Trevor changes

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the play and the play clock goes to zero.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
That can't happen. No, that's on the sideline. It's on Trevor.
You can't change that play. If you're gonna try and
change that play with that time on the clock, you
have to call time out. Have to.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
It's a it's a huge down a third and one.
The difference between third and one and third and six
is enormous. You can't allow that to happen, and they did.
Those are the things you gotta clean.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Up, especially against the group like Kansas City coming in
that can take advantage of that. And they've got Chris
Jones up there of course on the D line.

Speaker 11 (53:50):
I just Maganola throws so many different things at you
that if you're in third and five, third and six,
third and long, he's gonna he's gonna change things up
and you're gonna see a mistake.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
You gotta stay out of those situations.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Yeah, So looking forward to that. I hope to see
everybody here at the Bank on Monday Night of course
for Week five Monday Night Football. The Jaguars haven't beaten
the Chiefs peat since two thousand and nine. The Chiefs
have won the last eight meetings, including the playoff game
against the Jaguars. Its time is now?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Has it been? Really? Since two thousand and nine?

Speaker 5 (54:23):
Thousand and nine was the last Jaguars win over the
Kansas City Chiefs? Correct?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
Yeah, November eight, two thousand and nine, twenty four to
twenty one win, and.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
They lost in the playoffs a couple of years ago,
remember that.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
So let's I'll go through them. Even so since then,
twenty ten, lost at Kansas City, twenty thirteen.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
It's hard to win there, and they haven't played him
many times at Jacksawe.

Speaker 5 (54:47):
Right, Yeah, twenty thirteen was here. I think that was
Week one. It was twenty eight to two. Remember the
block punt safety. Yeah, ighth straight. It was brutal nineteen
fourteen at Kansas City. In twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen, lost
out there, twenty nineteen they lost here, twenty twenty two
lost at Kansas City, and that was in the regular season,

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and then in the playoffs lost there as well.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
So and then how many times have they been whacked
by them? Though?

Speaker 3 (55:14):
That's that's the interesting one because the twenty eight two
was they dominated that game for the whole whole game.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
I mean, honestly, there's not a lot of recent whackings.
I mean they you know, the playoff game was closed.
I mean it was a seven point right that, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
They had they had the ball when it was a
seven point.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
The regular season was close. Remember they tried an on
side kick in the opening kickoff and recovered it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and that they lost by ten in that game. They
lost by fourteen the time before that. So there's some
back in history that are that got away from them
because they were just not a very good team.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
But right, you know, yeah, but again, if you're going
to send a message to the rest of the NFL,
you win that game.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
You especially if the chief said lost to the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Then even if you beat them on a Monday night,
people would have said, ah, this is a bad Chiefs
team or they're down Chiefs team. But the way they
dominated the Ravens on Sunday, they come in there riding
high a little bit and you knock them off on
national TV.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
That's a message center.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Can this Jaguars team on both lines of scrimmage? Can
they out physical Kansas City? Is this a group that
can push around.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
On the offensive line? You might be able to get
after them a little bit. They haven't been great up there.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Even the stars, you know, Create Humphrey and Trey Smith
haven't been as good as they've normally been, So you
might be able to get some.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Some pressure against them. Speed them up a little bit. Stop.
They don't run the ball very well. They're not a
good running team. They haven't been.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
They are getting the Smith kid from central floor, I
mean from SMU going and that's one to keep an
eye on because he's a rookie.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
He's got the juice that the Checko and Hunt don't have. Yeah,
he could be a.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Dangerous thing, but no, you can you can you know
the defensive line, Chris Jones blocked Chris Jones.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Period block him to block Chris And you know the
fact that it's on a Monday night.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Is not good if you're trying to block Chris Jones,
because I think Chris Jones is one of those guys
that amps it up in primetime, amps.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
It up in the postseason.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
So if it was on a Sunday afternoon at one o'clock,
Chris Jones might not be the same player Chris Jones.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Will be on Monday night in front of the whole nation.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
I'd be sleepwalking a little bit one o'clock on Sunday. Yeah,
but yeah, when the lights are bright, when no the
eyeballs are on, that's for sure. I'm looking forward to
this game, certainly as Jaguars happy our JP Shadwick Pete Prisko,
I thinks to Mark Duffkin, by the way, for where
Jags linebackers coach. He's awesome.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Pete is awesome, doesn't a nice job.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
I hate he's out of the game right now. I
mean he's been in the league forever as a defensive
assistant and a coordinator at times, and long time here
of course in Cincinnati. A couple of different stints, but
they all got blown out, So he's hanging out and
it's good to have him on Jaguars media this year.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
So he's he made his home, like a lot of
the coaches end up doing and end up making their
home in Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Absolutely, yeah, so never. I think when he first got
the JAG's job on O six, I think it's the
same place. I don't think he's moved.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, a lot of guys. I think Joe dacon Mill still.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Has his place there and he's South Carolina now.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Yeah, Dust Bradley still have his place.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
They have a place too, Like there's a lot of
these guys stick around. Why not.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah, I mean, where are you gonna go live? You're
gonna go live, you know, somewhere else. I mean Jacksonville
is a great place to live.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Yeah, it certainly is, and so much so that I
moved out of there so much better now, actually it's
actually gotten better. I actually left Petey a JP.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
I lived in Jacksonville more than any other spot in
my entire life. Think about that, I did. I lived
there for thirty he wasn't thirty something years.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
You have to say how old you are, Pete, But
that's a long time.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah, I mean it was. I had a lot of
fun there. I enjoyed Jacksonville. I enjoyed living there. It's
a good city, good people.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
The ratings have gone through the roof ever since you
left here, So we're the city is you know, it
might have something to do with it. Maybe you're not
here anymore, Pete.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
And it's what the city rankings. The city rankings went
up when I left.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
Oh wow up h yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Look at least Jacksonville's grown up a little bit, though.
I will say that they don't have to. They don't
have tolls on the freeway anymore like they used to.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
You weren't around for the you weren't around this.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
The paper bill doesn't stink as bad as it used
to back in the day.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
And and they've built restaurants and bars and stuff around town,
which is nice to see.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
So yeah, it's good. I will say this.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Jacksonville to me as the best golfing I've ever been around.
And nobody plays in the summer, which made it even better.
But I'm that's one thing I greatly miss about the
city of Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Pete. Let's come back and keep it real.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
It's all we're gonna get We haven't kept it real yet.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
It's all been a sham from this up until right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Keep it when we come back, JP, it's gonna be
as real as it's ever been.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
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I don't think that's enough, not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
We need more than that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Yeah, I mean, make it happen Jacksonville. When when this
If this team keeps winning, you're gonna make it happen.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Yeah, See, that would make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
A team rail jump, everybody jumps on board. You know
how that goes.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Okay, there's there's room on the bandwagon, right, There's plenty
of room on the bandwagon for sure. All right, keeping
it real? The topic dajure is Liam Cohen and Robert Sala.
What happened before the game, of course, so we all remember.
Basically Sala said that this group does legal sign stealing,

(01:02:21):
and the implication was that it was a little beyond clean. Cohen,
I think kept his kept his thoughts about it to
himself publicly at least late in the week. Friday, he
didn't have much to say about it in the press conference,
but he certainly apparently has something to say after the
game on the field to Robert Sala. It was caught

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on video by Action Sports Jacks cameras as Cohen turns
down a handshake it appears from Robert Sala, and then
something was chirped and that caught Cohen's attention. He comes back,
He's held back by players, and then Sala's talking back
and forth and all this, and of course after the game,
Liam Clan didn't have anything else to say about it. Today.

(01:03:06):
We heard just a little bit earlier what his comments
were about what it does for his team like that.
That's all kind of they're trying to put it in
the rear view, I think, But I think in general, Pete,
first off, the incident's interesting. Just we're talking about it
all day here, and the grand scheme doesn't matter much.

(01:03:26):
I don't know if it does, Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
No, it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
And in fact, if they see each other, they probably
just laugh it off and move on with it. But
I think it's a couple things about it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I didn't understand what Salo was saying and why he
said it this week last you know when he did
say it last week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
By the way, there's the hoodie. That's what Tony's new
nickname is. The hoodie. Did you see we thought Belichick
was the hoodie. He's the hoodie. He's Jacksonville's hoodie. We
got to make that go viral. He's the hoodie.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
He's Jacksonville's the Hall of Fame hoodie or whatever he
is in Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
That's what he is. But I thought Salah was it
was strange that he picked this week.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
To make those comments or last week. And the reason
I say that is he was indicting the entire coaching tree.
He was indicting Sean McVay, he was indicting Kevin O'Connell. Oh, hell,
his coach is from that tree at some point too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
But the thing about it was he also mentioned Minnesota,
where we know the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
He's from Minnesota, the offensive line coach from Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
But legal sign stealing, isn't it. That's not an issue.
You're not doing anything wrong. Everybody does it. You know
Ran Carthon who works with me. We were talking about
this yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
He said when he used to go out as an
advanced scout, he'd looked for all the tells you know,
while you're out there, So there really isn't anything illegal
about it. So why bring it up the week of
the Jaguars game?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
And I have my theory on it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
That he's bitter that he didn't get the job because
Robert sala was a finalist for that job with Liam Cohne.
Remember Liam, If Liam Cohne doesn't reverse course and take
the job, I think Robert sala is the head coach
of the Jaguars, So maybe there's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Some bitterness there. That's the reason he brought it up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
But as far as he never really meant but Liam
Cone was saying, keep my name out of your mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
He didn't say his name. I didn't hear him say
Liam's name, did you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
He never did unless he said it on the field
right there for the first time. I don't think he did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
No in the press conference, he never said his name.
But I love the fact that because, let's face it,
pettiness is a way.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Of the world in the National Football League.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
And the fact that he was petty, and Liam was
just as petty to go back at him after the game.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
I love it. I love it now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
If it had gotten to fisticuffs that would have been
out of control, it would have been terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
They both would have been suspended. It would not have
been a good look.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
But the fact that Liam went at him and said
I think the players all responded to that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
They love that. It shows respect. He earned their respect
by doing something like that, and so I have no
problem with it whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
I think my problem is the vagueness of which Sala
said it, and he wasn't pinned down on it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Why would you say it this week? Why did you
mention Minnesota and coaches from that staff?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
And it never came to that.

Speaker 12 (01:07:01):
I never heard a real clarification of it, So he
kind of left it so vague that everybody automatically assumed
game week he was talking about the Jaguars and Cone,
when the.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Reality is Cone's been a head coach for three games
at that point, how could you possibly know what he
was doing?

Speaker 5 (01:07:18):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Do they all cheat to some degree? Yes, I don't
care what they say. For example, training camp practices are open.
I could go put cousin Tommy in San Francisco's training
camp practice. Nobody would know he was my cousin, and
he could report back to me what they were doing
right that you're.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Not allowed to do that, you could do it and
nobody would know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
So I think this was just at a character for
him to do it this week. And I think there
was a method to the madness. I didn't get the job,
so I'm throwing this alle loop up for all the dunk.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
That's all it was to me. That's what I thought
of it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
And I think Liam took it as a Hey, this
is a perfect value for me to dunk and you know,
proved to this not only the team, but to himself
that hey, you know what, if they're talking about my coaches,
about my players, we're gonna go defend. And this is
the new era of Jaguars football. It's not a backaway
and oh it's okay, don't worry about it situation. Let's

(01:08:18):
confront and then call it a day, like we're not
gonna let anything slide anymore. And I think that goes
right to the top of the organization, and I think
made a point of that after it may not have
been directed towards him, but he took it as directed
towards him and his team and his staff, and he
wanted to at least verbally put it into it, and
he put it into it by beating the forty nine ers.

(01:08:38):
First of all, you gotta win the game. And then second,
all right, you're gonna come after the game too. I'll
tell you about it on the field after the game. Also,
that's the new era, and I love that about the
leader of this football team.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Now, they could have went and just said, hey, Robert,
take a peek at the scoreboard. If you watch, he's
gonna play that game.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Or he could have said, hey, head coach, assistant coach,
he could have that game. I mean, there's a lot
of games he could have played. The one game I
don't think Liam would really want to play is if
they really did square off, I don't think he. Look
Robert sala is a compact man, and you know, but
you never know. By the way, sometimes we have certifiably crazy.

(01:09:19):
Maybe Liam's crazy and he would have given him a beat.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
And we don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Liam might have got the first shot in, but uh
as the others that I would have been worried about.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
But it never came to that, thankfully. There's nobody wants.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
Nobody wants to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
We are joking, nobody wants to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
But I give him credit for fighting the fight because
I would have me personally, and this might have happened.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
We don't know what he said to what somebody said
to each other.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I might have got over there and said, hey, really dude,
we were we were stealing your signals, and then maybe that.
We don't see the beginning of it, what he what
was was anything was said. I do know that Robert
Slam made some harsh threats in that thing.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
Though, Yes, what do you say, I could I could
well in your life or something. I mean that's yeah,
in your.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Life or or something like that, which you know, it's
all talk. Is that happens on a football field too.
But I think I think he.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Earned Liam Cohne earned a lot of brownie points with
his players just by that. And it was it wasn't
meant to be anything done for that reason, but it
just happened, and I think that'll give him some cachet.
I will say this though, when he was like trying
to go back over there and he was being held back.

(01:10:32):
That was one of those where the fight like the
kids like hold me back, hold me back. He's gonna
go fight and he's really getting held back. You know
what I'm talking about. We always saw that kid in school,
hold me back, hold me back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
He's not really trying to go because he's glad he's
being held back.

Speaker 6 (01:10:45):
So that in school.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
Were you one of those kids to hold me back?

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Kid?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
No, I got I found a way to get it.
Maybe not in the moment, but I would have found
a way, oh man.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
And then of course they're walking off the final thought
about it and walking off after it's done. Hainesy's with
him and one of our security guys with him, and
then he hears something like they altern around and Haines
He's like, bows up and it's Besellia.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Part of it was that Biselli running in?

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Yeah, there was Baseli running in. They thought it was
somebody coming after and Hainesy's about to jump on him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
He's got you look at the hoodie the hoodies in
the hoodies in by the way, I told you that
he said his wife got those for him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
She must have ordered the whole damn catalog for him.
Because that's all he wears anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
All different colors.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Right, the hoodie, he's Jacksonville. That's Jacksonville's honey.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
Hall of Fame hoodie, the Hall of Fame hoodie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
You know, Belichick might could be a Hall of Fame hoodie,
but right now, Tony Baseli is the Hall of Fame hoodie.
Let's make that go viral. Hall of Fame hoodie. We
get a little icon the hoodie and he stole it
from James Bladstone.

Speaker 5 (01:11:50):
Yeah, if he was still close to this show, he
could make it, you know, happy Hour themed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
But you know he's well, he never he never wore
a hoodie on this show ever.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
No, it was t shirt to me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Right now, he's what he He's the Hall of Fame hoodie.
That's who he is. But he was right there. I
saw that in the beginning. He was kind of lagging behind,
kind of with the one eye on it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
And I saw him because he you know, he knows
Robert Salah, because you know, everybody knows Robert sala is
a good dude.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
He really is. And and I just think it was
heat of the moment. But I don't understand his rationale
for doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Last week and my theory, and I stick to my
theory because I'm usually a good judge of the human psyche.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
He did that. He did that because he didn't get it.
He didn't get the job.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
Sour grapes. Yeah, it happens.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
And by the way, this is a question out there too,
Jaguar fans. I bet you're happy he didn't get the job.
I bet not that he wouldn't might not have been
a good coach, but I bet you Jacksonville right now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
The city is thrilled with what Liam Coon's doing with
that team.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
I think they're starting if they didn't realize what he
is and what he can be, Like we just talked
to him uf earlier. Maybe he didn't realize it either,
but everybody's starting to realize what that is for this
locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
You know what the best part of it is, He's
being true to himself.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
He's so genuine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
So many coaches get into this profession and they try
to be something they're not be you I you know,
like anybody whoever. And this is my worldly advice for anybody.
If you're going on a job interview, don't go be
something you're not because people see right through that be you.

(01:13:32):
And I think that's the thing about Liam Cohen is
he's being himself and he's being genuine and that comes through.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
We didn't know I would, I be honest with you.
My first couple of interactions with him, I was a
little skeptical, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
There was the whole duvil and he didn't like it,
and I said something to him at the combine about
it kid a round. But I've come to really like
him as a guy because of the way he handles
him and I think as a coach, he handles himself
and the situation better than I expected he would at

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this point in his career.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
So I think that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
Let's see how it grows too. I mean, we're only
four weeks in, so a lot of things can happen,
and having to adjust to things that come across.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Here thirteen and thirteen weeks and there's ever twelve weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:14:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
They're coming up, right, They're coming up next peat. Are
they happy? I bet they're happy? Now though, when they lose,
they're nasty. When when they win their happiest.

Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
Where it goes we'll find out in just a moment. Yeah, fanatics,
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just a little bit of Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
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Speaker 13 (01:15:02):
Can't write a better script than that, to be honest.
Just woke up today, you know, didn't want to make
it bigger than it was and just leave in the
moment and you know, see what today had to bring
and it was a pretty special day, probably one I
won't forget.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
You know they need to change that. The hanging with
the hoodie.

Speaker 5 (01:16:05):
That'd be a perfect way to bring it all together.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Right, Hanging with the Hoodie.

Speaker 5 (01:16:11):
I love it, absolutely love it. It's always a great
event each and every year. So check that out before
the Seahawks game in a couple of weeks. By the way,
the yeah, Monday, October sixth, the Jaguars hosting the Chiefs,
and hey, the seats are they're going pretty quick today
apparently because they're expecting to be in a position to
release some standing room only tickets later in the week.

(01:16:33):
I'm told today night it could be got to bezz
So a week away, there's plenty of time to build
up to this thing. So that's gonna be pretty awesome.
So lock down the bank. And they're asking folks to
dress and teal as much teal as you can for
the game on Monday night against the Chiefs.

Speaker 14 (01:16:56):
Throwbacks again, right, they are correct. Uniforms are nice, prowlers.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
Yeah, well the prowlers prowling jaguar on the side. Throwback, throwback,
that's what it's called, Pete. All right, there's the prowling
jaguar on the sleeve.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
At least that uniform looks good, some of the uniform.
Did you see the cardinal uniform the other day? It
was a oh my god, Oh it's like specs on it,
like a sand stormer.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
I don't know what the hell was.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
You know what I liked the other week, and not
a lot of people liked it, was the the Saints
gold jerseys.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Like it?

Speaker 5 (01:17:34):
No, I don't know if they played that well, but
I liked the jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
No, I didn't like it at all.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
It happens.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Our NFL can market some stuff, now, can't they? What? Now? What?

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Here's one? All right? What if they did a hoodie
jersey like where you did, like this kind of flop
in the back in honor of Bisselli, some.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Kind of thing like a seventy one jersey, hood.

Speaker 5 (01:17:58):
On hoodie on it. You can sell them in the store.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Pete, mister, and he could be the model for mister
Lulu Lemon himself.

Speaker 5 (01:18:04):
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(01:18:25):
with today at Tartan Gia. What do you guys think
happens with the contracts of Trayvon Walker and Devin Lloyd.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Ravon Walker is gonna get one. Devin Lloyd is an
interesting Let's let's hold off until the end of the
season for that one.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
Got to see a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Yeah, I mean, look, he's been fantastic. He's been one
of the best linebackers in the league. You can't deny that,
but I want to see more. And if you know what,
if he started busting coverages again late in the season,
then you'd be concerned about that. But as of right now,
I think you try and get him signed if he
plays this way the rest of the way. But I

(01:19:09):
don't think you could have that much money tied up
between him and Foyer at that spot, so you'd have
to make you almost have to make.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
A decision there and then. And Jack Kaiser's waiting, by
the way, he's going to be playing at some point.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
He was out there a little bit yesterday because of
some injury stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
And didn't yeah, and didn't play great. It was just okay, Yeah,
he's young, Yeah, he's aid. But was a rookie. I mean,
but you get thrown into the game, you're a rookie.
That's tough to do.

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
That's right. So we'll check that out as the season
goes on. But I mean, Devin Lloyd is tired for
the league leading interceptions this year with three, So there's that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I mean, he's been he's been around the football, he's
been really good. But you could also say we could
tag him.

Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
What's the tag of the linebacker? Does that include like
t J. Watt?

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yeah, that's the problem. No, it wouldn't be that high,
but it would be it would be high. Yeah, I don't.
You gotta be careful with that on a guy in
a contract year playing better than he's ever done. You
we can sit here and say, okay, well it's the defense.
He's lost weight. Well why did he lose weight?

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Why didn't he lose weight before he was in a
contract year? So that and he's been hurt, don't get
me wrong. Remember that very first training camp he meant
he missed time.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
And I mean he's been in three This is third
different defense and the first two didn't utilize him in
the right ways either. So there's some of that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yeah, we'll see how he goes. I mean, get come
talk to well.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
This question will be addressed throughout the season, and I
bet you halfway through the season we have a definitive answer.
If you play like this, you find a way to
keep him. If he's not and it's regressing again, then
you have questions.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Yeah, there's questions that early in the season. We'll see
how that goes moving ahead. Next question at Craig o'keeley.
Is the offense too complicated right now? There seems to
be a lot of confusion both pre snapped and route recognition.
What changes need to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:04):
No, I will say this, I've talked to Baker Mayfield
about this offense and even talk to Trevor about it.
It's very complicated and there's a lot happening at the
line of scrimmage. So I do think there's some of
that at play here. I think some of the calls
are coming in late too. The call in third and
one came in late.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
That was a late call, But Trevor has to be
smarter than to.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Try and change that play too. So it's a combination
of guys getting lined up too. We've seen a fair
share of those problems where they're lining each other up
and taking time off the play clock. So what they
need to do is get the play call in sooner.
So if you do have any of those issues, you're
not going to have a delay game. And by the way,

(01:21:47):
false starts happen a lot of the times when guys
are at the line of scrimmage and they're in their
stance and they're changing and checking and moving and lining
guys up because the linemen are in a stance and
they false start sometimes to flinch or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:22:01):
Yeah, it all kind of bleeds together there. But I
mean that you shouldn't pull back on the offense. You
just got to learn all the nuances of the offense.
Right Oh, I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Don't think the offense is the problem. No, the offense
is the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
The mechanism get into them and how you're getting the
plays into it are the problem right.

Speaker 5 (01:22:20):
Now, that's right, because I mean it seems like they
call them the lake calling has been pretty good on offense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
When they had to delay a game on third and
one to make a third and five, wasn't there another
penalty right after that too?

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
Yeah? I think there was. I gotta go find that again.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
That to me, JP is something that can never happen.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
If you have a brain fark penalty, and that's what
I call them, because that's what they are, then you
can't have it with another one to follow it up
after that, and I think they did.

Speaker 5 (01:22:55):
Yeah, it's not good, not good, not good. Next question
at Dog Heffernan. Would Austin Lane corner Leam in a
fight against Salah? Austin's not here to answer that tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
No, he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
You know, now, Austin against the two of them might
be a fair fight. But I mean, look, nobody wants
to see those two fights, so stop it. It's they're
not gonna fight. They weren't going to fight. They might
have talked. They might have talked to talk. Sometimes you
know you're never gonna get into a real fight, and
it's fun just to act like you are.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
They weren't getting there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
The what is the There's a video that goes around
social media a lot of the two dogs like barking
each other through the fence and the fence opens and
they just stop.

Speaker 14 (01:23:42):
The fence closes it right right, ther bark is worse
than your bike, That's exactly it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
At mL Ratchford, who are some potential trade targets the
Jaggs could add before the deadline? Pete, now we're adding players.
This team is good enough to add players that go
in the playoff run.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Huh, it's a little early for that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
It's particularly when you're building something for the for the
whole thing, you know what I mean, you're not it's
not just about the now. You got to be careful
with that because if you're if it's just about the now,
you're gonna lose sight of what the big picture is.
And and so I think you gotta be Yeah, I
mean if somebody, if somebody became available that you though
can help you right away, or you had an injury

(01:24:21):
or something, then.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Yes, but don't be given up.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
They've done the great job of trying to reacquire a
lot of assets and draft picks getting him back, you know,
for Fred Johnson and for uh who else, and they
trade they traded Bigsby.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
They got assets back. So don't give them away just
to give them away. Right.

Speaker 5 (01:24:38):
By the way, that that third and one delay a game, right,
it was delay a game And then they got back
to the line and called time out after.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
The Yeah, yeah, that's because the play clock was going down.
That should never happen. Never.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
And so if I'm Liam Cohne, I'm angrier about that
than I am about Robert Sola, I'll be ho with you.
And by the way, it's an epidemic across the league JP.
The pre staff penalties and the stupidity penalties.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Are just up.

Speaker 5 (01:25:08):
Is it a little focus?

Speaker 6 (01:25:09):
Is that?

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
Is that why? I know the illegal shift stuff has
kind of been a focus of officiating.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Well like last week when Jacksonville got called with their
illegal shift. That was nitpicky.

Speaker 3 (01:25:19):
I thought the guy was kind of sad, remember and
the two men in motion they called he had set.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
But yeah, there's an emphasis on it. But more than that,
I think it's the panic of the coordinators play caller.
What are they doing over there now?

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
They're dictating to me rather than remember all the talk
about all the offenses are so far ahead of the
defenses because the rules, well they still should be, but
they're not because the play caller has become paralyzed with
fear and all across the league. My guy, look at
if the guy has two hundred yards and one, two

(01:25:56):
touchdowns and no picks, they're having a parade for you know,
when it used to be three fifty and three and two,
it was like, okay, good game, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
It's just the whole league has become safe. They're in
safe mode.

Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
They're putting a statue out front right now for two
hundred and twenty yard games and two touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
It's crazy. It's it's crazy. I mean, what's what's Trevor's
high mark.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
So far this year? Oh gosh, let me find it
real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
It's not if I'm not mistaken, it's the Bengals game, right.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
I mean they've been running the ball. That's what they do,
you know. So like let's see here passing Trevor Lawrence
high watermark two seventy one against the Bengals, three touchdowns, two.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Picks, and that is that the number I just said seventy.

Speaker 8 (01:26:45):
Two?

Speaker 14 (01:26:45):
Yeah, yeah, and they won a game they didn't know
I lost.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
That's the one loss they have.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Yeah, well they should have won the game. They had
a bad fantom int of pass interference penalty call to
one other thing we need and I don't know if
you have any more questions.

Speaker 5 (01:26:59):
We got a couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Song Yeah, okay, go ahead. Oh why because I want
to address Travis onorm.

Speaker 5 (01:27:04):
Okay, we'll come back. Hang on, let's let's finish these
questions first. At Jags fan five eight five eight. After
four weeks of watching this team, have your expectations changed
from what you had before the season.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
I had them as a playoff team, as a wildcard team.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Well, they could win the division, so that would change it.
But I thought they'd be a wildcard team. So are
they much better than a wildcard team?

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
No? Can they be a wildcard team?

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
So I don't know. I might haven't changed at all. You.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
I think they can be a if they're gonna pull
wins out like this in San Francisco on a more
consistent basis, which you can't really rely on four takeaways
a game. If they steal some of those games like
that now, okay, and they handle division business later, they
can be a ten to eleven win team.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Maybe, so that might win you the division.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
That changes the percent. I thought it was an eight
to nine win team.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Well, you got to figure you should be the Titans.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
Twice should they stick? And that's good for everybody?

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Right, So that makes you That gets you to five.

Speaker 5 (01:28:07):
Right, it's five.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
There's a couple there's a couple of other easy games
on that schedule.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
Get the Texans again, right, that's on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
That's whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:28:15):
Hey, this team travels now, Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
The Colts never win in Jacksonville, so that should be six.

Speaker 5 (01:28:20):
There you go. See now we're talking Jets are not good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Where's that Jets? Game is in New York though, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
It doesn't matter this team travels, Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
What what the London game is tough? Ugh, it's tough
for them to look at you waving your pomp bombs.
Who else? What else do they have at home coming up?

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
I mean that's the Seahawks at home next two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
That's a tougher game. You think it was that they're
playing good football.

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
That's a good physicals come here at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
That's a They lost to the Giants on the road,
but still a tough game.

Speaker 14 (01:28:52):
At the Raiders, Yeah, they should win that one at
the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Be a tough one, but they should win it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:00):
At the Denver Broncos in December.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Yeah, the road games are tough. What are the other
home games? All? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:29:05):
Home games? We got Chiefs, Seahawks, Rams in London, the
home away from home, Chargers at home, Colts at home,
Jets at home, Titans at home.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Okay, the Jets and Titans. You should win both those games.
So yeah, look, you split the rest of them at home,
win two on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
You're in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
One more question at Trevorville, Peter, are you gonna lock
the Monday night game against the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
M Wow, you know what. I didn't lock the forty
nine Ers game.

Speaker 5 (01:29:39):
No, you didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
I'm gonna lock this one. Oh my, I'm gonna lock
this one. Lock it, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
I think they come alive in the passing game. I'm
locking that game. Jaguars are gonna go to four and one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
I'm locking it.

Speaker 5 (01:29:54):
Wow. You heard it here first, and.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
We're not on next month. So I had to lock
it today.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
I had to do it tonight. And if you're gonna
do it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
I'm locking it. Lock that damn game off. They're gonna
win that game. What place is gonna be jumping like
the old times.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
And I think they're gonna play good defense, and I
think Trevor Lawrence is actually gonna play really good on offense,
because you know why, Liam Combs listened to the show
and he knows I'm sitting here criticizing their inability to
drive the ball down the field, and he's gonna start
calling past plays down the field.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
They get the ball down the.

Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
Field, and that's what they do. They rabbit ears down
there that they listen to this show.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
That's of course they do.

Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
Yeah, of course they do. The previous group did. I
don't know about this group.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Everybody does.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
Everybody should. In fact, it is Jaguars Happy Hour, and
they do, and they do, yeah, and they do. The
Addis fan questions are in. We're back with a look
around the National Football League. It's some final thoughts about
Travis Hunting that you wanted to get.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna get into Travis Hunter a little bit.

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your thoughts on Travis Hunter for the Jags.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
Okay, there's a perception out in the national media that
the Jaguars aren't getting their bang for the book from
Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Rightfully, So it's understandable.

Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
Statistically, right, yes, huh, statistics but right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
But I don't think he's healthy all the way? Which
is I don't, I'm not sure. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
Nobody's told me this, But why did he not play
in the second half on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
It was only like nine snaps all day. It was weird.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Yeah, And and I think offensively they're trying to get
him going. That passed and they're great catch in the
middle of the field. He had another play where he
was opened down the field. They didn't throw it to him,
So I think you're trying to get him going offensively
and then they'll go back to putting them on defense
if he's truly you know, because he had that shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Remember he had this banged up shoulder in.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
Camp because.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
And he got banged up a little bit on Sunday too,
so maybe that that's why he didn't play. But look,
the verdicts the Jerry's still out on this. Let's four games.
They're gonna call it a bad trade. The way you
know people rush this stuff, they really do.

Speaker 5 (01:32:49):
Did you see the clip NFL put it out on
Instagram of him blocking a defense.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
But that's nothing you ever want to see. Look, you
don't draft them the block.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
And so I know, but he's willing and he went
and did it, and Dan pancakes kick. It was awesome
to see.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
I think once he understands the offense.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Completely, that play in the middle of the field, you're
gonna start seeing more and more of those. So but
it's too early, everybody, It's too damn early to give
up on them and say it was a failure.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
I mean, if you had to grade it right now,
what would you give it. You'd probably give it a
C minus to a D for the overall trade. But it's,
you know, great until midterms. You don't really get a
report card until midterms then you get a final grade.
So too early to do it. But on the surface,
not a good trade right now? Could it be? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (01:33:37):
Yeah? Too early four weeks in fete, long season, long career,
hopefully in the National Football League as well. Let's go
around in the NFL. So you look at some of
the games. Steelers beat the Vikings in Dublin twenty four
to twenty one. Falcons over the Commanders thirty four twenty seven.
The Bills continue to roll thirty one to nineteen over
the Saints. The Lions blasted the Browns thirty four to ten.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Yeah, I mean it was closer than that score would indicate.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
They had a part return for a touchdown. They didn't
do a lot offensively. That Browns defense is really good.

Speaker 5 (01:34:10):
Texans blanked the Titans twenty six nothing. Love to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
And I think Brian Callahan's in big trouble, you know,
in a couple I think it's they have a buy
this week, I think, and then they play Mike Rabel
and the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Patriots in a couple of weeks. If they lose to
their former coach, I think they're in big He's in
big trouble.

Speaker 5 (01:34:27):
Patriots blasted the Panthers forty two to thirteen. Giants beat
the Chargers twenty one to eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
About that one, you know what that's called. That's called chargering.
That's what that's called. The Chargers just can't help themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:34:39):
Doesn't matter. Year after year it happens. Eagles over the
Bucks thirty one, twenty five, Rams beat the Colts twenty
seven to twenty. The Chiefs put thirty seven on the
Ravens thirty seven to twenty. The final score in Lamars hurt.
He's got a hamstring issue.

Speaker 3 (01:34:55):
Yeah, that's a bad situation for that man. That defense
can't stop anybody. Everybody moves the football, and it's terrible.

Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
Bears blocked the field goal at the end of the
game to hold on against the Raiders twenty five twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Four astagenty look good in that game, and in the.

Speaker 5 (01:35:11):
Game last night, up and down the field Packers Cowboys
into a forty forty tie, the second highest tie total
in NFL history.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
If you're a coach out there and you ever want
a holl not to at the end of the game,
get Matt Laflores, because that's an exhibit AA on what
you shouldn't do. And I'm not just talking about the
last sequence either. They went from I think the thirty
to a certain to whatever yard line it was in
about a minute, wasting a minute and a half, just
lollygagging through it like it was no big deal, like

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they were going to go to another quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
I don't know what the hell they were doing.

Speaker 5 (01:35:48):
That's what it is. Ended in a forty forty deadlock.
Monday Night Football a pair of games tonight starting at
seven fifteen in South Florida, with an awful matchup between
two bad teams and the AFC. The and three New
York Jets visit the oh and three Miami Dolphins. Someone
has to win unless they tie, it's gonna be ugly.

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Who you got a hard rock beat?

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
I mean that one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
I think both teams are gonna score. That could end
up being a forty to forty die too. But I'm
gonna take Miami. I think the Jets have major problems
and Miami's gonna score in this one. I actually think
both will score, but I think Miami wins the game.

Speaker 5 (01:36:23):
Not one, but two games to night on Monday Night
Football eight fifteen Eastern, the two and one Cincinnati Bengals
without Joe Burrow head to Denver to take on quarterback
Bo Knicks, who's trying to get it together for the
one and two Denver Broncos, who you got a mile
high tonight in game two.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Jake Browning was Jake Browning last week, and Jake Browning
goes out on the road again to face that Broncos
team after their home after two road games where they
didn't play great on defense.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Good luck, Jake Browning. I'm gonna take the Broncos.

Speaker 5 (01:36:50):
Right picks are in. The lock is in for next seven.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Locker is in next week. We'll see you two weeks.
You guys are gonna come.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
Back and say, you know what by that time, though
I have played in other game, No do they play a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
Game after that? On Sunday after the Chiefs game, when
do they go to London.

Speaker 5 (01:37:07):
Yes, it's home against Seahawks, and then it's still.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Okay, yeah, then London. So I've played that, I've played
two games by the time we're back on the air.

Speaker 5 (01:37:14):
It's true.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
See JP how that works. You can figure out the calendar.

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
Sometimes I appreciate all the help I can get from
your Pete. You've taught me a whole lot in my lifetime,
especially how to read a calendar.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
We'll talk to you to know that we'll be back
in two weeks.

Speaker 5 (01:37:29):
Right, well, we'll see you in two weeks then, Pete.
Appreciate you, Pete Brisco. Of course, our thanks are Duffner
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