Jaguars Happy Hour | August 14, 2025

J.P. Shadrick, Jeff Lageman and special guest Mark Duffner discuss what they've seen from the Jaguars' roster so far ahead of the second preseason game against the New Orleans Saints on Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Heritage Roofing.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It is Thursday, August fourteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by Heritage of
North Florida and now fresh off last night's appearance of
the season premiere of Love Is fag J P.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Chack and Welcome Man. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
Heritage of North Florida, Jacksonville's premiere roofing and Remodeling company,
J P. Shadwick, Jeff Logman, Busy Hour ahead really two hours.
Liam Cohen Show at five o'clock. Here's what's coming up
on Happy Hour. A scrimmage review. Jaguars went through it today.
They're working through details all week long, coming off that

(00:47):
Steelers game, and we'll look head to the Jaguars Saints
and of course, as we said, the Liam Cohen Show
at five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network WIF James
GLADSTONA and Tony Bassellian studio for the fourth consecutive week
web Coach Cohen. Starting week one, We're on ten ten
XL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars
YouTube and a special guest in studio with us on

(01:08):
Jaguars Happy hour today, longtime NFL linebackers coach, including with
the Jags from six to twenty thirteen, two stints as
an NFL defensive coordinator, former head coach at the University
of Maryland and at Holy Cross. Started his career at
nineteen seventy five as a grad assistant under Woody Hayes
at Ohio State. The Great Mark Duffner is in studio

(01:30):
with US today, coach. How are you.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
I'm doing great, JP. Appreciate that introduction, really really special since.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
It's a hell of a career and it's not over yet,
we're hoping that.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Yeah, people don't remember that duff is the longest tenured
Jaguars coach in history, which is pretty spectacular.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
How many how many different head coaches were you involved
with here?

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, I was with three, I was with Jack, I
was with Mike Malarkey, and then I was with Gus
So I was with three different head coaches and actually
an interim Mel Tucker was in there. Four. But yeah, no,
I was loved being here a lot. I mean, it
was great to come here.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
By the way, you didn't hear the intro there, and
Joe was you know, was saying that the main star
of the show Love is Bald.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Here's how gullible I am.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Okay, I was googling that, by the way, right after
the drug Is that really a show that I have
to deal.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
With every week? This is what happens here.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh, he's the best.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Absolutely, You've kept the home here since you started here.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Right two thousand and six. Yeah, I kept my house
in Ponta Vidra. And you know when I left here
to go to Miami, in Cincinnati and Tampa, I stayed
in an apartment. My wife went back and forth. But yeah, no,
and I'm never leaving here. This is the greatest place
to live in the country.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
I think a lot of people don't realize how many
coaches have stayed. I mean you, Mike Malarkey, Tom Coughlin,
I mean Tom Cofflin won two Super Bowls in New York.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
And he's living here.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah. Russ Pernell, former special teams coordinati Sutton's down here.
I mean, there's and it's amazing how many coaches want
to come back if they're not if they haven't come back,
they want to come back. I mean, And so it's
a it's been a very special place to not only players,
but a lot to the coaches.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, we got to work on that.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
You know, the there's always been kind of a fraternity
of former players that gather for alumni weekend or Legends weekend,
and uh, we need to work harder at gathering some
of the former Jaguar coaches back because you know, look,
they played a big part of the Jaguars history as well.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, I think that'd be great. I mean, I hope
you sound that invite out real, real loud, because I
think you'll get a lot of takers on there.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, we're gonna work on that. We got We're going
to figure that out because that that'd be a pretty
cool reunion to gather some of the old coaches some
of the players that they coached. Oh yeah, because you
know that that that's the one thing I think that's
real special about this place. And I mean you've been
a lot of places before. There's not many places like this,
not even close.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
And that's what's been so great for me the last
couple of weeks coming back out here, having the privilege
to go out and watch practice, connect with you guys
in terms of people that were here when I was
here before, seeing those people, seeing people in the equipment room.
I mean, just former coaches, players, some of the current
players I know, some of this staff I know. I
mean there's nothing like it. I mean the fraternalness and

(04:21):
family neess if you will, that this place presents is
off the charts.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Great. And we're in the middle of Electric Center, We're
in the Hundai studios inside of here. Yeah, you're shaking
your head. A little different than two thousand and six.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh my gosh, JP. You know, unbelievable. I mean, when
I walked out onto the practice field last week, I said,
you've got to be kidding me. And what they've done
for the fans here to see practice and training camp
and all that, and then this facility here, which I've
seen a little bit of, not all of it, It's unbelievable.
You talk about a tangible commitment to excellence. I mean,

(04:53):
you know, mister shod Cohn is ponied up. He's done it.
And I think for player, if I'm a player to
come to Jackson, I'm gonna have world class facilities. I'm
in a tremendous town. We are the only show in town,
so to speak. They've been successful here. I mean check
the boxes. I mean they're all over here on the
left with positive, positive, positive, very good.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah, there's absolutely no reason why a free agent would
not want to come here. I mean when it comes
to facilities, I mean everything's there now you even factor
in the place that we live in. And the reality
is is that for a long time, everybody thought it
was just about the money in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well it's not anymore.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I mean, the arms race in college football has spread
to the NFL because facilities matter, amenities matter.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
It's just the way it is, no doubt about that.
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into the approach from Liam Cohen this week coming out
of the Steelers game. You know, it felt like at
times on defense and logs chime in on this too,

(06:05):
that there's a lot of guys with their hands up,
like where what's going on? So miscommunication, misalignments and a
lot of yardage on the defense last week, well, he
had an alignment assignment period earlier in the week and
then another scrimmage today to go through almost a complete
game sequence, calling plays, from the sideline benches were out there.

(06:29):
What do you think of the approach from coach Cohen
coming off the first preseason game in the performance.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
They had, I think it was excellent. I mean I
think he grabbed the bull right by the horns. I
mean what you suggested. I watched the game on TV,
but you know, tempo hurt the defense. You know, the
Pittsburgh team got lined up on the ball, no hurry
or hurry up, no huddle type stuff, and that hurt him.
And calls were probably getting in late game mechanics across
the board. Well, you got to practice those secs and

(06:56):
you know you saw in the Steelers game some like
a lot of teams face sometimes times first game, opening
game timing issues on both coaching staff across the board. Well,
for coach to have that walk through alignment assignment adjustment
I think was outstanding. Plus it made the point not
only to the coaches but to the players everybody, Hey,
we got to get this fixed. Let's don't beat ourselves,

(07:18):
you know, let's beat that group across the field. And
then I think what he structured today today was I
think about a fifteen series offense defense scrimmage good against
good ones on ones, twos against twos to try to
shore up that stuff. And I think he answered some
of Now, some of it still reared its head.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
But flags out there today again.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
But yeah, yeah, but I think I watched the defense
in particular, as far as they got lined up, the
offense came out and oftentimes got no huddle. They were
on the ball, so they you know, they had to
deal with Temple. I watched the communication. Guys were talking
with their hands and their mouths so that there was
none of this you know, you don't want to see,
well what do you mean or what you know, hands
up or my bad or something like that. I think

(07:58):
a lot of that was you know, tough and you know,
made better. And I think that you know, the communication
from the coaches to the players getting the call in
so they're staring down that offense, you know, looking at
him and ready to roll. So I think a lot
of that was addressed.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, Liam talked about it and use the term, you know,
let's get our cleats in the grass, so to speak,
and uh, and it's a very proper term. And he
said even took it back a little bit to the
pop Warner you know days, which you know, let's get
lined up, you know, then get lined up quickly. But
you know, I think the concerning part is is that
people say, well, if you get lined up, then you're okay,

(08:32):
Well you want to get lined up early, you know,
as a player, if you get lined up and you've
got your assignment knowledge squared away and it's firm and
everybody's firm, and that now once you get lined up,
now your eyes are talking with your teammates and then
your eyes are looking at the opponent, and then you
can digest okay, what's the formation, Now, what's the stances? Okay,
I can communicate to him, hey watch this, look out

(08:54):
for that. And if you're not and if you're rushing
to get lined up, then you're not doing any of
that and you're not preparing whatsoever for the play or
to react to the play, and so it sets you
back even further than just getting lined up.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
And a lot of people think, well, you're just a
little bit late start.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Well it's a late start, but then it becomes later
because you're not doing any of that pre snap reading
of the opponent. And so that needs to be fixed
this week. And I think most of the the biggest
improvements typically come from the first game to the second
game in the preseason, and I think you'll see.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
A very big improvement.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
And they worked that mechanics today and that scrimmage do
they They had the guys that were considered up in
the coaches booth, which there's no coaches booth was at
Miller Electric Center, but they were up in the balcony.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
They had one coach in ev P.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Busselli's box up there and then another coach of offense
and one defense and the other the other one and
Liam Cohen's balcony up there, so that they could essentially
play like it is game day, you know, the mechanics
of it.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So hopefully that helps.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, I think I think it's definitely going to help.
And what you were talking about is when you get
lined up fast, then you can read the indicators that
coach was just talking about, jeffs is talking about in
terms of what the offense is going to tell you
pre snap. And sometimes those indicators are like the big billboard.
I mean, they're blatant what they're.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
Going to do.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
But like if, as Jeff said, if you can't get
lined up in time to see that and hone in
on it, shoot you behind the eight ball, And that's
exactly what the offense wants to do to the defense
those pre snap McCant tools that they can use, temple motion, cadence.
Today I saw our offense using a hard count and
cadence and mixing that up to try and they got
the defense a couple of times. All easy stuff to

(10:36):
do to try to distract the defense.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
So give you an idea, JP. So as a defensive end,
you know, when I would get the line scrimmage, break
the huddle, we got the call, okay, get the strength
call left or right? And okay, now I know am
I in to go six? Or am I in a five?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
You know, playing defensive end, which is an alignment based
on the defense. Once I lined up, then my eyes
went to me lead to the formation, and I already
knew the down and distance in the back of my mind.
So I'm looking at the formation, and then when I'm
looking at the formation, I'm looking at the stands of
the guy right in front of me, and the stands
of the guy right in front of He can tell
you some things, but then there's more that you can

(11:14):
determine from other stances.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
As well.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I'll look at the backside guard because at the back
side guard is sitting light and then a guy on
top of me is sitting heavy. Pretty good chance that
it's going to be an open sixth counter. Here comes
up backside guard and I'm gonna mash him right in
a face. Okay, So that's one of the things I'm
looking forward to. Or the quarterback, what's the stagger of
his feet. A lot of times quarterbacks and they don't
even know it. They change their stance under center based

(11:38):
on whether they're just under center taking a hand off
or giving a handoff away, or they're trying to hurry
up and turn out and get a seven step drop.
And then I'm looking at the knuckles, you know, wait forward,
his weight back, you look at all of that.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
You need to look.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
At down the line of scrimmage from a defensive end perspective. Also,
I look at that backside guard. But then I also
can see where everybody that is. Everybody is real tight
to the line of scriptage. Chances are it's not going
to be a drop back pass because the tackles want
to set back a little bit.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
If it's going to be dropped back pass, yea.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
These are you know, tremendous coaching points that he just
gave everybody right here, and that's what it's all about.
But you can do that when a couple of things happen.
When you can when you're lined up early enough, Number two,
you know your defense. You're not thinking about what my
alignment and assignment adjustment is. Now I can jump on
those indicators to attack, to advance the play, to be

(12:31):
ready for anything that they could do, run or pass.
All these things are right there, and that allows you
to play faster. And you know, Zach Thomas, a great
linebacker to played at Miami. This guy's talent level was
probably more in the average range in terms of a
lot of pro players, but his ability to key and
diagnose pre snap, reading indicators, reading stances, reading alignments, backfields, formations,

(12:53):
all those things gave him an edge. And we're always
looking for that edge to try to get moving towards
what run or pass.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Quicker than that, think you can coach. Mark Duffner is
with us real quick. When you get promoted from position
coach to coordinator for the first time, or from coordinator
to head coach, how long does it take you to
get that operation and you're wearing a headset for the
first time. You're actually calling a defense for the first
time instead of just talking to the defensive coordinator. How

(13:23):
different is that for a first time coordinator in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (13:26):
It takes some time, you know, it takes some time
to get used to doing that. You haven't been doing that.
You'd like to think, you know you can do it,
and oftentimes you know, you start to do that even
when you're watching film. If you think you have goals
to be a coordinator, you start to practice a little
bit with what your current game plan is and you
start going through the mechanics. But there's nothing like the

(13:47):
when the bullets are really flying on how to get
that done. In factor reminds me when I have a
story you're talking about. This wasn't my first time, but
when I went to Miami from here in the first
game we had was against doing as Tom Brady. It's
in Miami. The head sets come out in the first drive.
My two of my starting linebackers get hurt there out

(14:09):
of the game, and before the first drive, after they
get out of the game, the headsets go down. So
now and I'm talking to a new player where I
was trying to talk to him. The headsets are down,
so now I'm signaling to him and Jez will Pete.
You think about you know what else? Good Lord, what
else is going to happen here? But you had we
have to roll. So that's why I think these what
they're doing in terms of the practice mechanics Jeff talked

(14:32):
about here, in terms of how it's going to go
in a game, can't be can't be matched. It's great,
and you know they I want as much of that
as a coordinator as I can get.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Plenty more ahead. We'll come back in a moment. We'll
have our obligatory Travis Hunter update when we come back.
See what he had to do today? A little bit
of both. Yeah, he was all over the field today.
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Speaker 5 (15:26):
You know, it's good competitiveness out here, guys going at it,
you know, competing, try to make each other better. So
I thought that was the I guess the positive in today.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
A little sloppy offensively.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
I thought we started great, had a long I don't
know how many plays.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It was a long.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Drive to Star went and scored, and then from there, defense,
you know, picked it up a little bit, and we
had some some mistakes, just self inflicted wounds kind of
in the story of Camp of trying to clean up
some of that stuff pre snap. So just got to
clean up the operation, the mistakes that you know, the
defense doesn't inflict on you, you do on yourself. So
all those mistakes are we just got to get better

(16:00):
and cleaner. But I thought there were some good competition
guys flying around, so there were some goods and bad.
We'll watch it, we'll learn from it all.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
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(16:28):
Cole nine oh four six three three two thousand. JP
Shadwick Jeff Logman, former Jaguars linebackers coach Mark Dufner in
studio with us today. Glad to have you, coach.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Awesome, Really pleased to be here with you.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Really great. He's a ball coach man. He wants a
talk ball, no doubt. You just want to sit on the.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Beach football No, no, no umbrella, drinks for dote, talk
a little ball dog gone right.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well, let's talk a little offensive football here from the
quarterback there, and he was talking through some of the
issue used for the offense today. Logs, you guys both
were out there. They were pretty evident. Some penalties, turnovers, sacks,
there's a lot happening on the offensive side stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well, you know there was. I'll say this now. The
first drive they went right down the field. I mean
I thought opening pass really was thrown and Brian Thomas
Junior had it in the fan. Should have caught that.
But they went down the field, scored the great run
cutback run by Bigsby and wide open actually in which
I hadn't seen a lot of that, but really good

(17:31):
cutback run. So excellent drive starting out, and then they
just couldn't get back to the rhythm.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
It was.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
There was, as you said, penalties where it would stop
them or bring them back. It was it looked like
there was some miscommunication on some throwing routes. In terms
of that. The running game was okay. I think as
far as that's concerned. They protected the ball pretty well,
but you know, there was a couple of breakdowns and
protection and it was good to see the rush from
the defense, but they just couldn't get the rhythm back,

(17:57):
and so I thought a little too inconsistent, you know,
in terms of what you were looking for in terms
of just moving the change and getting the bonny inch one.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
The one thing that I did not like coming out
of the mouth of Trevor Lawrence was that, oh, kind
of the story of camp when he's talking about some
of the mistakes or whatever self inflicted wounds. Well, you know,
last time I checked, you're the quarterback okay. And if
you're the quarterback, you're the leader.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
And if you're the leader, then you need to lead
to the point that you're making people uncomfortable. You need
to demand more. You demand more of everybody around you,
You demand more of yourself to get through that. So
that's not the story of camp. And I want to
see that step more to the forefront was sixteen, it's

(18:42):
your team, it's your offense. Okay, let's go take control
of it, grab it by the horn, so to speak,
and grab everybody along and drag them along.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Let's go. It's his offense.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
I mean you can sit there and say it's Liam
Cohane's offense, it's Grant Yudinsky's offense. No, it's sixteen's offense.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
So I want to see him take that next step
because him taking that next step is imperative for the
success of this franchise.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't think it could be said any better than that.
And that's a fact. And this guy's got all the
tools to do that, and now's the time. I mean,
you know, I think they've you got to give kudos
to the personnel department here. They've upgraded their I mean,
the receiving corps I think is strong. I think the
running back group is excellent. You've got numerous players there.

(19:32):
I think you've got weapon at the tight end position
with Strange, So you've got weapons on this offense. We
get this offensive line in terms of those starters the
way they want them and get them and flow sooner.
You know, in terms of the jail for that group,
You've got pretty good group out there. And like you
just said, we can't we can't tolerate beating ourselves. We
can't tolerate drops pass drops. Shoot, we're we rep this

(19:54):
stuff all day. We got to catch that ball. We
can't tolerate, you know, two penalties the first drive the
other night. You know, the first place can't happen. I mean,
we're pros and we're in this thing. We're in it
to win it, and so we're we don't have it.
Nobody's got enough talent to beat two teams, meaning us
and the opponent. We got to beat those suckers. So
we all got to be together and in this thing

(20:15):
to win it.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
I love the fact that that you know, a little
adversity now right, I mean adversity after week one, the
defense getting cleats in the ground.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, that's that's adversity, right, pretty adverse second scrimmage that
you have in house. Little adversity. Right, offense is not
where it needs to be. Offense is making some self
inflicted wounds. I mean, look, having to go through that now,
I think is better than just, you know, having everything
be all perfect. You know, we're living in analysis wonderland,

(20:46):
okay for a preseason, because you know, when you have that,
you know, let's flash back to last year. We kind
of had that moment, you know, in preseason, like we're
everything's great and fine and Danny, we're going to compete. Well,
you go down to Miami and you have one bad
thing happened, a travel CTMs fumble, and all of a sudden,
you crap the.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Bed, I mean, for lack of a better term. And
so I like the fact that there's some adversity right now.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
You know, I think it hardens a football team and
it teaches them some valuable lessons.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
And to the offensive line, they were moving guys around
all day to day, both sides of the center. I
mean Anton Harrison moved to left tackle at one point
and then left just teamed up and didn't finish practice
today logs and that's we'll see what that what Liam
Cohen says tomorrow about.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
That they've been moving guys around the Caerry oga. Even
Anton Harrison got some snaps in one on ones at
the other tackle, you know, so so I like it
why Milam continues to rep at garden near every position
but center.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
And oh, by the way, he looks really good. I
don't know if he's not one of the best five
offensive linemen on this team. I will tell you this,
he's best offensive lineman finishing place. Pretty good thing to have,
you know, on your character sheet. That is just plays.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
No, we're looking for that, We're looking for finish. That's
for darn shre And I agree with you on that.
And I think that you know, really, when you look
at the offensive guy line, I've only seen like five practices.
But the guy that's pretty much it's Cleveland who's at
the left guard, I think, who's been sitting in the
same spot. They've been rolling people around. I think it's
good to do that. Some of it's because, well, we're
prepared if somebody gets hurt. We've got a guy who's got,

(22:24):
you know, being trained in another spot. But obviously there's
some indecision with that, and so there's still, as I said,
trying to find out who's going to be the best bunch.
But I like what you said about Milam. I think
this younger fella, Manheim, I guess, is also shown some things.
I think he can be a backup, you know, in
the center position, center guard area. So but I think
we got to get these tackles squared away, and and uh,

(22:45):
you know, I think they I know they know that too.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to why I was kind of
looking forward to watching till the injury today of Anton Harrison.
I was going, you know, could he sneak some reps
that left tackle this week in New Orleans or something,
you know, because we saw a little bit of that
in the first scrimmage inside the stadium. So I hope
it's not anything serious with the ankle or whatever lower

(23:07):
leg injury that he had.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
But we'll we'll find out. Monheim just real quick on him.
You know, a lot of.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
People kind of look at him as only a center
at SC Southern Cal. He played a lot of positions
and he's got some size to him, so I think
he's got flexibility and the one thing that you have
to do when you have a backup center, the center's
got to be able to play inside at other spots
as well. He's got to be able to play left
guard and some right guard. And so they've been working

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Monheim at left guard, right guard, and center, and then
he'd been doing the same thing with the incumbent backup center.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh from Kentucky. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Look, we both had a moment about Luke Fortner to
look at my sheet right there, Sorry, Luke. Yeah, And look,
I thought Fortner is kind of more of a pure center,
and so I think Monheim's got a little little bit
of an advantage there, you know, because he has some
past experience playing multiple positions.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
But you know, you know, time will tell. All right,
let's come back in a moment. We'll get our Travis
Hunter update, and we'll get into this Jaguars defense. Some
of the personnel. Your thoughts on, especially the linebacker group.
That's your fourteen I want dust opinion on that. Yeah,
we're gonna get it good. We'll see if we get
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Speaker 6 (24:48):
It takes us just coming in and being ourselves every day,
being true to ourselves. As far as we obviously know
it's a physical sport. We all want to come up
with here the physical, but at the end of the day,
it's either you're gonna win or you're gonna lose, and
don't nobody want to lose. So coming there with that mindset,
I feel like as far as with our defensive perspective,
we want to be physical, want to stop the run.
That's our main focus first.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
That is Trayvon Walker earlier this week Jaguars Defensive End
Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy I are from the Hyundai
Studios the Miller Electric Center on ten to XL ninety
two point five FM. JP Shadwick Jeff Logman, former Jags
linebacker coach Mark Tufner in studio with his one final
segment with you What's Up Bloggers? There was a play
today and Duff you might remember it. JP you might

(25:30):
as well. In the scrimmage.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
So I believe Trayvon was the I can't remember if
he was right or left because so Ezra is left.
So if Trayvon was the left end, Ezra was the
left guard. Ezra pulls over to Trayvon. Trayvon sees it coming.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
It is a collision to end all collisions.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
And it was. I was.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
When I was watching it. As they were approaching each other,
I was like, this is going to hurt. It's gonna hurt.
And they collided and they both rocked each other to
no end.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
But forty four like just literally like a statue just
kind of shucks off Ezra Cleveland and then makes the hit.
And I'm going, that's what makes him special, big, strong,
powerful and great at the point of attack.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Well, let me say this to you. You've defined him
very very well, and everybody in the league covets that guy.
I mean, I let more candles and shirts that we
would get him when he was coming out, and you
can imagine no. And I'm just telling you, I like
now that I've seen him upfront and personal sense, the
draft and all that, Jesus Pete. I mean, he's terrific.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
He's a betterdy.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
He's only going this way. I mean, he's going up, write,
write it down. He's going to have a hell of
a year.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
He had a move and I don't know if you
remember me talking about this JP last week, but I
was saying that he's starting to get back of trick,
so to speak, as a pass rusher. You know, the
first couple of years, he's power, you know, speed to power,
and that's really all all of his game. He did
a move on Anton today that was a chop little

(27:03):
chop rip and I was like, ooh yeah, And it
was natural because you know, Trayvon's such a power guy,
and you always have to have the compliments or the
calendars to your main primary moves. His main move is
a power move. So he was going at Anton and
Anton's getting ready to set the anchors out and kind

(27:24):
of drops the hips, puts the arms out and then
Trayvon is coming at him and then chop boom by
him before Anton even knew that he was in the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
It was beautiful move. But it's good to see him
making that progress.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Absolutely, and I, like you said, I think He's only
going to get better and better as he continues to
define his game in terms of moves and things like that.
I mean, he's a forced to reckon with now. And
you put him together with Josh on the other side
of me, you do have two guys that command your attention.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Big time coach Mark Dupner in the studio with us,
we're talking Jaguars defense. Let's move back to the second
level now at linebacker and Foyer Leuikan has been in
the league now for a long time, since eighth year
in the NFL. Been here for a few years. Devin
Lloyd former first round draft pick, fourth year, final year
of his rookie contract. This year's had Muma was in

(28:13):
that same draft. This year of Duela has been around
a little bit. Third year now, they just got Dennis
Gardeck in and free agency, eighth year player from Arizona
his entire career. What are you in a lot of
new faces, a lot of young guys. They they've spent
some draft capital here this year, Duff. So what's your
after five practices or so, your impressions of the linebacker

(28:35):
room and and how does it power this defense?

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Well, each of these guys have a lot of strengths,
you know, I think that they can add I mean
for you, oh, I know he's a productive player, now
is he. I'd like to see him be a little
more of a big play player, but you know, in
terms of tackles for loss, in terms of uh, winning
the one on one sometimes on pressure if they bring
him in, you know, affect the quarterback. But he is
a very productive player, and that's what you're looking for.

(29:00):
How many play how many hits does he make for
the number of snaps he's in the game. This guy's
led or been at the top of the league in
terms of production, and that's that speaks highly that that
is I'm impressed with that. You know, Devin's a guy
that's got real good length, you know. I I kind
of looking at him when he was coming out, I said, wait,
we put him at sam linebacker because of his length,
and he had some success as a rusher, so you

(29:23):
could do some things with him off the edge. I
don't know what Anthony's thinking about with him and sub
or Nickel defense, if he's going to move him around
a little bit to take advantage of some of that
rush ability. But I like his length in his range.
You know, I think it's I think he's still learning
maybe a little bit in terms of the key and
diagnosed part of it a little.

Speaker 7 (29:41):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think that I'll say that Combs as a young player,
he just tends to be around the football. I like
his toughness. I mean, he got involved in the fight
the other day with the running back, and I like,
you know, I just like the fact that he's competitive,
you know, rookie from Wake four yea, and he shows
up a little bit.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Uh. You know.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I think that I kind of like Ventro Miller a
little bit and what I see him do.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I mean, I think all of them have roles to
fill right now, but I say the guy that commands
a lot of my attention just because he's so productive,
is for you, you know. I mean, I just I've
admired that that guy's play and it's not easy sometimes
when if your line is a little bit uh inconsistent,
to have that guy be as productive as he is.

(30:26):
And so I think you like that Abdulah. I liked
him when he was coming out. Another guy that I
think can give you some edge help and some pressure
off the edge guard act like we talked about. I mean,
that guy's had success, true success in games as a rusher,
and I know he's a good special teams guy. So, uh,
you know, I think that the group is one that,

(30:48):
you know, I think is going to add to the
defense as far as that's concerned. I don't know that
there's anybody that's a headliner, I mean, just an unbelievable
guy in that group, but it's a it's a solid group.
Jack Kayser, I think, is a good player, smart, tends
to be where he needs to be. You know, I
don't know, we'll see what his role continues to be,
but I know they're, you know, they're giving him a
lot of opportunities to show where he can contribute.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I think the issue there at that position is that,
you know, besides Foyer, because he's you know, he's a
proven player. Yeah, you know, the rest of him right
now don't have any resume that makes you go wow.
You know, so you're you're kind of trying to figure
it out after Foyer.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
And that Gardak might be the closest one to that. Well,
he's been around the league forever. Well, he's a Sam,
He's a Sam slash. You know, spinner, slash, edge rusher,
do it all, special teamer, and he probably has the
best resume after that. But I mean you're looking at
trying to find somebody to fill that second linebacker, the

(31:44):
primary linebacker role, and I don't think it's going to
be easy. I think it's going to come down to
the wire.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I think it's going to be a very interesting roster
decision at this group. Each guy has some some good qualities,
but there's nobody that stands out yet. And Devin Lloyd,
you know, as a first round pick, the reality is
I don't think he's standing out either. You know, he
still has some issues with not making the right decisions

(32:11):
at times, So to me, that's something to definitely watch.
I will say that Branson Colmes, as Duff mentioned, I
think has been a guy that's grabbed my attention and
we'll see where that goes. But right now, that's a
position group to watch very closely. It will be an
interesting watch the rest of camp. It's now time for

(32:31):
our Travis Hunter Update, our weekly Travis Hunter Update, and
this week LOGGS has been both sides of the ball
in practice, including today in the scrimmage.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
What do you think today twelve.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
I haven't watched a ton of the film yet of him,
so it's kind of hard to watch just him, you know,
when you're watching out there. But you know, to go
back to his play in the first preseason game against Pittsburgh,
two things of note. One is that you saw that
players wanted to test and when I say test him
as far as let's see if he can if we

(33:05):
can push his button, so to speak, and get him
to respond after the play and take him out of
his game. And I don't know if it's a jealousy
thing like the WNBA has going on or what, but
I think that's gonna be interesting to watch as the
season evolves. The other two is that when he knows
what he's doing, he's amazing. I mean, he's got the athleticism,

(33:26):
the movement skills, I mean, all the special qualities that
made him a Heisman winner. But you do see glimpses
of when he's not sure. And when anybody's not sure,
then they can't be the supreme athlete that they're capable
of being. So there's still a lot of learning for
him going on, and they're still evolving going on, because
you know, you've got to get them involved with offensive

(33:47):
defense at the same time, not just hey, we're going
to play in the preseason game for a series on
offense and then you know, put you on defense a
couple series later. You know, if you're going to do
it truly two ways, it has to be you know,
more of that put into play. And so I think
it's gonna be interesting to watch how it works in
New Orleans this week.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
But like you just said, I was. I was impressed
in that first game with how he did handle things
and especially he I mean, I think it was in
maybe it was the first drive he was in at corner.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I think it was.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
They ran a little run playing and he was he
was going to be the force on the back side there,
and they ran a wind back play and he had
to come up and we called pin the hip, make
that tackle, and it should have made it for a
brilliant no gain. He missed the tackle. They got a
little bit, he didn't, didn't get unraveled. It's there's no
lack of toughness. I've seen that kid make those plays
when I watched him, when we were looking at him

(34:37):
trying to see what his role was at Colorado. You know,
so Uh, he's got the toughness and all that. I'm
with Jeff. I think it's just going to be continued
repetition for him. So he can, you know, get his
cleach into the ground, if you will, in terms of
just settling down and playing.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
But he didn't.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Nobody intimidated him or got him distracted from what his
focus was. And I think you've got a rare player here. Now,
I mean that's mister obvious here, but he is really
good special team I mean athletically.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Well here, here's what is I think not obvious to
a lot of people. If you were to take let's
say a college defensive playbook and a college offensive playbook
and compare those playbooks to the pro level playbook stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
If you had, let's.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Say a pro level playbook, we're on a scale of
zero to one hundred as far as difficulty pros at
one hundred. Where would a college level playbook rate or
rank on that zero to one hundred scale.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh shoot, I think it'd be maybe in the sixties
or fifties or something like that. I don't maybe it
would get maybe not that high, maybe not that high.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
I know, Uva, we were like maybe a forty forty,
maybe a thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Well, elmo, Yeah, Now this University of Virginia at the
Harvard to the south right there, let.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Me take you very complicated.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Now, his whole coach I happened to talk to you
this week is linebacker coach. And and of course he
loves Jeff. But he told me, he said, Duff, this
guy was the smartest player. And he's coached forever and
coached a million places, and it was he didn't know
I was going to say this, but he said that
he was the smartest player I ever had. All I
had to do is tell him one time or show
him one time, and it was done. In fact, he

(36:17):
said he knew it better than I did.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, hold on, you're talking Jeff.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm sincere, no, no I know, and I'm not trying
to fatten his head. But this guy, this coach who
I played ball with in college, uh just couldn't you know,
couldn't stop talking about not only the intelligence of Jeff,
but also nobody finished and practiced harder than he did.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
We had two linebackers and Phil Amation was our coach,
and it was me and Billy Griggs and Billy Griggs.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Excuse me, David Griggs.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Billy Griggs was his older brother who was at UVA
before him, just like I had an older brother at
UVA before me, and I was, you know, six foot six,
two hundred and thirty thirty five and then David Griggs
was six foot four, two hundred and thirty five pounds.
I mean, you talk about two big, tall inside linebackers.
Does that You don't find that very often.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
You don't find it anywhere. And I told Elma, I said, Elmo,
you just chewed gum. You didn't have to coach those two.
I mean, Jason Pete there we.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Have a pretty good payer. And then we had another
guy who was a backup in a rotation by the
name of Phil Thomas. It was pretty good too. But
but yeah, it wasn't it wasn't very complex in college.
And but you know, for Travis Hunter, I mean, this
is this is very different.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
And I think the.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Challenge, there's a challenge to both offensively and defensively because
you have a player. And I think the first instinct
as a coach is, hey, let's just limit the package
that he's doing, you know, so we can simplify it
for him. Well, if you get too simple, then you
really I think it's an offense and a defense.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
You get predictable.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
So the challenge is is to make sure that you're
not predictable when twelve is on the field, because you're not,
you know, simplifying it so much, you're still you're still
running the full playbook on offense and the full playbook
on defense. For example, you know, if Travis Hunter is
only learning one of the wide receiver positions, then it

(38:11):
makes it a little bit easier to kind of get
the tells. If Travis Hunter is playing all three of
the wide receiver positions and you're mixing it up, Duff
as a defensive coordinator, Oh my gosh, I mean, how
do you figure that out?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah? Big time.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
No, that's absolutely correct. If they can let him learn
it and don't give any tips away, because we're always
looking for that. Anything we can get to, like he said,
the tells will take. But you get this guy and
move him around who it's going to be testing now?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
All right, final thought with you here, Duff, what are
you looking for in the game on Sunday in the Superdome.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Well, I would say, you know, I think again, first
and foremost, everybody stay healthy. You know that'll be the
number one goal come out of the same healthy. But
I think continuing to improve the communication on both sides
of the ball, alignment, assignment, adjustment being that perfect, not
giving away snaps. As far as that's concerned, running the football,

(39:03):
established the run game, show physicality. They may know you're
running heck with them. I mean, we're coming at you,
and let's have the confidence in the physicality to do that.
Show defense, let's get after the ball. In terms of takeaways,
you know, we need to get start making some big plays,
tackles for loss, takeaways. On the other side of the ball,
ball security, protecting the ball, so not giving the ball away.

(39:27):
I think fixing the self inflicted things, you know, the
penalty situation. Like we talked about not giving up explosive
passes or explosive runs. On defense, you know, holding those down.
If we can limit explosives, that'll be good. I think
the other thing is, you know, our third down defense
and our red zone defense. I mean, they've been working
hard on situational football, situational awareness, and you know, let's

(39:50):
start to make some steps forward in terms of progress
in those areas. I think the handling the tempo they
started and did a good job of that today. That'll
be another focus for their defen And I think, uh,
you know, let's let's see people take a big step
forward in terms of competition. You know, let's get these
starters as close to game ready as possible. Who are

(40:12):
the starters, and and and let's nail that down. So
I think a lot of those things are objectives that
you know, you'd like to see and uh step forward
in as we go into preseason Game two.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
I want to see everything get better. Yeah, I mean, look,
you game won a game two, you expect a big jump,
you know in all the areas that we're concerning. You know,
you want to see significant improvement there. And again, like
Duff said, stay healthy. You know, I mean, if you
don't come out of the preseason healthy, then you know,
it affects your chances to compete during the regular season.
So but you got it's a balance. You know, you've

(40:44):
got to make sure that you balance it. You know,
the will to get ready, but then also the desires
to stay healthy. You know, those are things that you
just have to balance as a head coach. And and
I'm sure Liam, Liam's got a handle on that.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
That's uh. He seems to have a really good pulse
on this team, you know, and that's the that I like.
He's got a he's got a little moxie. I think
it is a good word for me. Let's see the
team respond this week though, in pre season week number
two against the Saints. Mark Duffner, pleasure to see you.
Thank you for coming in and sharing your insights and
fun to hang out at practice with you. But it's

(41:17):
really fun to have you here.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Gil Welch joy for me. I'll tell you that right now.
I deeply appreciate being with you guys today. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Let's do it again soon, I hope. Absolutely. Yeah, awesome.
That's Mark Dufner, former Jaguars linebacker coach. We're less than
fifteen minutes away from the Liam Cohen Show. James glad Son,
Tony Boselli will be in studio with us when we
come back. The injury report and final thoughts, and this
is Jaguars Happy Hour.

Speaker 7 (41:48):
One piece of many things that we're working on trying
to improve, whether it's fundamentals, communication, just simple execution. A
place here in their alignment assignment all of those details
are on port so we're trying to improve everything, not
just the drop here and there.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Great Ydinski, Jags offensive coordinator. After practice today, the scrimmage.
Welcome back, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logaman, The Jaguars Happy Hour
from the Honday Studios inside the Miller of Electric Center.
We're on ten ten xl AM ninety two point five FM,
Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube coming up in less than
ten minutes. The Liam Cohen Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

(42:23):
No coach until Week one of the regular season, but
yet again James Gladstone and Tony BASSELLI, I'm kind of
wondering should we not have two shows.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
You have a coach a show and then you have
a Baselli Gladstone show as well.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, those two together, it's pretty interesting. Fun.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
Yes, yeah, it's fun. The two of those guys in
the same room with us. I mean, I gotta say, Jp,
the time spent with those two guys over the last
couple of weeks has been has been a lot of fun,
really and it just the time just flies by. It
just like Holy col And.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
You'll learn a lot of football team too, want to
build get good info and I appreciate the transparency aspect
of it. And by the way, Duffner was Mark Duffner.
His last year here was like you said, he worked
for three different Jaguars head coaches. That tells you what
kind of personality, what kind of person he is that
all these new coaches come in and want him around,

(43:17):
and he was great, and he made it through some
different head coaching changes in Cincinnati as well. Right, they
doll just got blown out.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
But yeah, after last year and when Cincinnati had Joe
Burrow have really was a spectacular year for him, and
they didn't play very well on defense.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
They ended up blowing everybody out. But you know, dust
great guy, one of the all time great Jaguar coaches.
I don't think I've ever met anybody that would have
anything bad to say about Mark Duffner. Everybody's big fans
of duff And you know.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
I hope we can have him on some of our
programming going on the forward because you know, I love
the way he thinks.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Because they're at the end there is like, hey, what
do you want to see duff He had a whole list.
He put the head coaching hat back on, is what
he did. And he's getting Maryland's getting ready for Virginia
this week. Well he's been a head coach before. Yeah
what Holy Cross Maryland and moly Cross. Yeah, pretty cool stuff,
cool stuff. Love having him here. Time for the injury
report presented by uf Health, the proud healthcare partner of

(44:17):
the Jacksonville Jaguars. Mason Smith activated from the pup list today.
Didn't really get out there and the team stuff and
the one on one side, but working his way back.
That's good news. Eric Armstead I saw on the side
today on another field, actually getting some work in with
an assistant, starting to work on some things with his
sore back.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
What I saw out of out of both of those guys,
I would say is very encouraging and you know, may
take some time, but very very encouraging.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Nonetheless, Anton Harrison is the concern though. We'll see. Maybe
they don't have to tell you anything, but Liam Cohen
speaks with the media tomorrow after practice and maybe we'll
get an update on Anton Harrison, who left practice today
was limp off the field, had to be helped back
to the building as well.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Yeah, you hope, you hope nothing nothing serious, but because
you know, the one thing you like to do is
going into the season. Open Number one is that I
still believe you're trying to figure out the combination of
offensive lineman that you're gonna have. You're also trying to
figure out where everybody best fits, and if you don't
have everybody available, it's a little difficult to come to

(45:25):
that decision. So I hope he's okay, and I hope
that he's able to play.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
In New Orleans and we'll see. I mean, really the
first time in a little while that he had been
flipped over the left tackle as well, and that was
really starting to go. And then Bang gets the injury
and has to leave.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
I can see him in the in the scrimmage today,
get any snaps that left tackle.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
I saw him get some snacks. I saw him in
the scrimmage for a second, did you yeah, Okay, I
missed it. It wasn't long because he wasn't out there
long he got hurt. And then Fred Johnson came in
and played some left with the walker little and right,
and they're working on a lot.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
Of different I think part of it is is that
you know, when you get injuries, you've got to have
some different combinations that you feel good with. For example,
you know, let's say Walker Little gets hurt. You know,
what's what's the best player next to put at left tackle? Well,
maybe that's Anton Harrison. What's the best starting combination opening day?

(46:18):
I don't know, maybe that's Anton Harrison, you know. So
I think a lot of those things are what you
would put in the category of to be determined. And
part of the evaluation process is continuing in the next
game and the following week of practices. And I don't
know if they'll play much against Miami, but the practice
against Miami, I think all of those things things will

(46:40):
be a factor. But by the time you finish up
with the practices with Miami, I think you're going to
have a pretty good idea.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
And then Tyson Campbell, Jaguars's cornerback. I don't think they've
officially said what it is, but he's been out for
the last couple of days, so yeah, And I thought
he was having a really good camp.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I don't know if he played great against Pittsburgh, but
I thought he was having a really good camp. And
he's been super consistent. And what the wide receivers the
Jaguars have has been great, A great opportunity for him
to get to get work at a pretty good group
of wide receivers, and I think he'll be fine. I'll
be working off to the side today doing some conditioning

(47:19):
stuff and look pretty good, so I think he's gonna
be all right.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
All Right, there you have it. The injury report is
in coming up in just about three minutes or so.
It's the Liam Cohen Show. We'll have James Gladstone and
Tony Boselli coming up. Preseason Week two, Jaguars at the Saints.
The Saints have questions at the quarterback position. You think
a lot of New and New Orleans this year, so
that'll be interesting to see. By the way, Tyler Shuck

(47:43):
one of those quarterbacks, the rookie second round pick out
of Louisville. How do you pronounce his last shuck? Shut
like you're shocking a noise show, but it's spelled show Yeah,
like scott h ou g h like Doe with s
H show it Scottish, but it's shuck. Yes, Okay, appreciate
that because I would have screwed it up on He's
a rookie Sunday, for sure, he's a rookie. He is

(48:05):
a week a little over a week older than Trevor Lawrence. Okay,
they're both more than older in nineteen ninety nine and
Trevor Lawrence is in year five in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Well, you knew also it was in an old rookie
of the Jaguars. Jack Kai is the linebacker from Notre Dame,
is going to turn twenty five and first couple of
weeks of September, so he's another older rookie.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Absolutely, so I look forward to that. On who's going
to start today, I don't think they've figured it out.
They had like a practice against the Chargers, I think today,
so they were going through some of that stuff today.
They got two rookies at the quarterback position. So that's
the one.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
That's one football team. Everybody's like, are they going to
be a team that could possibly trade for a Kirk Cousins.
But if it was going to happen, you would have
think it would have happened by now. Maybe, but you
never know.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
See how they played this week, Maybe they make a
change after that, be a little late to get the
system digested, but you never know. You never know. We'll
see what the Jags having store. Liam Cohen again speaks
with the media tomorrow. I'm sure he'll be asked about
playing time for the starters and if they're going any
further and what came out of the scrimmage today. I

(49:19):
think that's all on the table for the head coach tomorrow.
Oggs after practice. I've always kind of had the prediction
that they would play, but I don't know. You never know.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I think next week is a great opportunity to get
some reps against Miami in a practice setting and not
playing in the game.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
But this week against New Orleans.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
You know today you have scrimmage's Thursday, but you got
Friday Saturday to rest. And the great thing is is
that you know, with these preseason games, it's not like
the guy everybody's playing a full game. I mean, you're
getting some reps, so you can control the reps where
you need to and get some guys out winning. Guess
who's early, Tony Biselli.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
He'll join us on the Liam Cohen Show on the
Jaguars Radio Network when we return. James Gladstone and Root
as well. Thank you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour.