June 13, 2025 • 50 mins
J.P. Shadrick joins Jeff Lageman for the final Jaguars Happy Hour episode of the offseason, reviewing the team's output now that minicamp has come to a close and the players head on break before training camp. This and more on today's episode, presented by Dream Finders Homes.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It is Thursday, June.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, this is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hour is
brought to you by dream Finders Homes and now a
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
On the way in this morning. Luckily there is no
congestion for over eight hours. JP Chacker, welcome in. It
is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by dream Finders Homes, official
homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's our final show of
the off season program. Vacation begins in about an hour
(00:44):
from right now. We'll be back in late July. JP
Shadick Jeff Flogaman on ten to next lam Jaguars dot Com,
Jaguars YouTube. Good afternoon, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
How's your congestion?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Clear as a bell? Apparently about the last show because
it means that there's gonna be a little bit of
a break for us.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But you know this is the.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Time of a good break. Well, there's nothing wrong with
a great break, but this is the time of year
too that the players really need to take a break
from a mental standpoint, not from a physical standpoint. The
training still has to go on, but you've got to
be able to step away for a while to kind
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of to get ready to focus in and lock in
for a season, because I mean that's it's incredibly demanding.
A lot of people kind of don't understand the mental grind.
I mean people think that playing football is easy. It's
just you're being an athlete. Well, try dealing with about
fifteen different injuries throughout the course of about six months
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and trying to perform at your best level. I mean
it's hard. It's hard, and it takes a lot of
mental concentration and mental strength to be able to do that.
And there's only one way that you can prepare yourself,
and that's to get the mind free and clear and
refreshed once you roll back up in here and then
from the physical part of that coming up. You can't
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just be sitting on the couch eating cheetos the whole time.
But there are days that are that's okay, it's called
cheat daye Yes, I don't want to say cheetos. But
but I think also part of part of this time
of getting away is that you have days that you
break the discipline to treat yourself to something nice. I mean,
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it's a reward you know, and and I had I
had one day a week that I always used to
do though really when I when I played during when
I was training in the off season, and that I
would always pick one day to have something.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That wasn't great for you, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And I probably had more than just one a week,
but I tried to keep it to one a week,
and and it was good because I mean it just again,
it kind of allowed you to just be human, you know,
instead of this.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Going back to the Rocky movie, right when Drago.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This machine preparing and no pizza, no burgers, no ice cream.
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. You got to have
a little bit of fun. And that's why Rocky was
able to beat him by the way he had a
little bit of well, he trained in Siberia. It was
the tough way. He went to the scenic rout to
do it. Yes, you got to be able to you
know what I'm saying. You got to have a little
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bit of mental fun through the whole process and physical fun.
We'll get to the off season coming up here in
just a little bit. But the final mandatory mini camp
practice was today. It was reduced by the time. It
was a great crowd out here. By the way, on Wednesday,
fans were invited to come out. Doesn't happen. I don't
ever remember it happened for a mandatory mini Can.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We get a number on that?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
By the way, I think capacity I think is right
at too, But it felt like there were a lot
more people.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
There's a lot of people standing around too now.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Which was cool to see. Which if you made it
out here, thanks for coming. It was a great day
of practice. Today was shortened a little bit, but the
highlight today logs. You always say you look for Travis
Hunter first thing I look at. You saw him on
both sides of the football today in a single practice
for the first time. Yeah, And I don't know if
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this was the only time that it's actually at least
Liam Cohen said on the McAfee show today that it
is the first time he's done both in one practice.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And it was the first time for sure that we
had seen. I wasn't for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So it's good to hear that because you and I
were standing there and we were who are we We're
talking to Joe cow We're talking to Joe Cower and
we're all kind of shooting the breeze, and then all
of a sudden, we look out there and we're like, uh,
wait a minute, you pointed it out right, He said, hey,
By the way, I hate to interrupt the conversation, but
Travis Hunters now wearing a white jersey, because he started
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the practice.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Out wearing a teal jersey, which is offensive color.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
He was running routes and doing everything on offense and
then he flipped it over to the white jersey today
and so yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It was fun to watch. There was a lot of reps,
more reps today for the twos and threes today than
I think the ones. Yesterday was a day of a
lot of reps for the one. But it was fun
watching twelve on offense and on defense. And you know,
there's a lot of work to be done with his
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football team. Travis has got a lot of work to do,
and it's not anywhere near a finished project, and nor
should it look like a finished project at this point.
There's still time and uh, they're going to have to
have a really good training camp. When you've got a
new system, new coaches, new foundation, everything needs to come
together in time, and I can't wait to see it
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come together. Another thing I liked to see today was
Brian Thomas Junior back on the practice field after a
little bit of a scare on Winds. Went down on
his shoulder, walked back on the field yesterday, didn't get
back into the work, but then it was back out
there and apparently working full today. That's good. When he
went down, there was kind of this collective gasp. I
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guess you could say it practice. And at first when
I saw him down, I was like, oh my gosh,
is that a knee, you know, because that's your first concern.
Is that something you know, crazy happens, non contact or contact,
it related, doesn't matter. And he got up and then
you could tell that he was walking and had his
right arm kind of held tight to his right side,
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and you're like, okay, it looks like maybe an arm
or shoulder or something. He comes out, he went inside
for a bit, came out and he's kind of moving
around a little bit. So very encouraging that he was
out there practice today, you know. And if there's a
list of guys as far as don't get hurt on
the Jaguars roster, Trevor number one, yeah, quarterback, right, I mean,
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see what happens when that's happened for the most important
position that there is on a foot ball team. Travis
Hunter number two, just because I think Travis represents hope,
represents hope, and change. Brian Thomas because he's a phenomenal
football player. And then you go down to like Josh
and Trayvon. I think is as the next two guys,
just thinking for the perspective of a guy that you
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didn't list right there, I know, Wait a minute, I'm
not in the I'm not on his list. I'm not guys,
a kid be injured, wait a minute. You know, I'm kidding.
Everybody else can get her, and I'm just kidding right
right now. And then the other positive of the mini
camp is complete and there were no injuries to speak
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of of significance or really anything that I saw myself,
I mean, and that's you know, the goal always of
the off season is to get better number one and
probably one B is to stay healthy. Get any into
training camp as healthy as you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So, you know, so I think.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Some objectives will reach and the work again, there's a
lot of work done, but there's still plenty of work
to do with this football team. We'll get to the
Jags defense coming up in just a little bit, and
what you saw this offseason from that group, new scheme,
a lot of new faces in the back end of
that defense. But we continue on tintin xl Amjaguars dot
Com and Jaguars YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hour with the
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offense and you know, a lot of focus. You mentioned
the quarterback there, he spoke today. We'll hear from him
coming up in just a little bit. But it's all
about how he handles the offense, how he executes, how
healthy he is. He was wearing a black sleeve on
his throwing arm today he said, just some general swords
and yesterday, Yeah, nothing to really be worried about. But
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this is obviously a huge season for him coming up.
He's got the contract and everything moving ahead, but a
new offense, new coaching staff. He's got to start taking
steps forward and you know, the next month or so
to get ready for training camp or for him too well, and.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I think in a big way he needs to take
a step up.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I mean, this is at the point of a quarterback's
career where you expect to see big gains in his game.
The concerning thing to me is that day two of
Mini camp was not very good yesterday. Yeah, I felt
like the defense had a better day on which I'm
okay with the defense having good moments, but I thought
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Trevor didn't have a good day. And even Liam Collins
said he had a lot of balls on the ground.
I mean, like, you can't have that in a non
contact practice. It shouldn't happen well. And look, there's a
lot that goes into the performance of the quarterback. The
performance around him also has to be good to allow
him to be good. But his feet have got to
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get better in certain situations. There was one throw in
particular in a red zone drill where I mean he
didn't even adjust his feet to make a throw and
the ball sailed on him. I mean, you got to
step into the throws and adjust your feet.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And he knows that.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
And that's a huge factor with Liam Cohne's offense, and
he talked extensively about it ways back in the off
season and he realizes it and he's got it to
continue to work at it and continue to improve.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You know, there are.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Certain quarterbacks that can throw at any which way you want,
like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I mean, his feet aren't perfect all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But he's got that innate ability just to throw it
from different positions in different angles. That's not Trevor. Trevor
I think is a quarterback that Look, he's got to
be disciplined with his feet to get the best result,
you know, And that's just how it is, and he's
got to continue to work at it and he will.
He's got a great work ethic. And also his receivers
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need to know where they are need to be as well.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
So there's some moments.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
There was a little confusion as well yesterday going back
to yesterday to where it looked like they weren't clean
on assignment knowledge, which is you know that happens.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's a it's a lot of new players on that
side of the ball as well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know, we've we've talked about all these receivers and
you know, the running back room and everything. By the way,
just let me jump in right there when you mentioned
the running back room, that may be one of the
most interesting position groups to watch going into training camp.
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And then also when we get down to the first
game and what roles are going to be earned and
will it impact the roster, you know, could there be
any changes there because you've got a talented room. Yes
you do. And the reality is is that that room,
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once you get past a couple spots, special teams contributions has.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
To be a factor. Well, you look at what they
have now.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean, you've got two rookies that were drafted, got
Tank Bigsby, Etn. I mean, you got four guys right
there that are really good football players as far as
running backs go. But is there a special team's capability there?
You know, some you might think yay, some you might
think nay. So I think that's going to be a
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really And I say that because I think it's a
very talented room, and I think it's going to be
very interesting to watch how the roles are earned out
of that room. Etn's getting about six and a half
this year million in his final year of his rookie contract,
the fifth year option season. Of course, Tank Bigsby in
year number three out of Auburn. But I think the
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thing that really stands out about the new guys is
the speed a Schultoton especially has that I mean explosive,
take it to the house speed from anywhere. If he
can hang on to the faseball. Powerful and he's strong
and put the one area that he's got to work
gone ball security. Ball security. I mean, if there was
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really the only knock in his game coming out of
Virginia Tech was ball security. I think if there were
no issues with ball security, then he might have been
talked about with the elite running backs that went in
the first round and then soon after. So that's something
that he has to work on. And earlier today, I
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was listening to Tom Coughlin on a radio show and
he was talking about how he worked with Tiki Barber
and solving some of those ball security issues with Tiki,
and I think the coaching staff is working very hard
with him as well, and it's something that he has
to embrace and realize. And so you've got two guys
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that are in that room, Tank Bigsby. I think it
was about one fumble every thirty carries I think so
far in his career, not fumbles loss, but fumbles, which
that's what matters anyway. So you've got to make sure
that those that area with those two guys is cleaned up.
We've got plenty ahead we'll return and get into the
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Jaguars defense over this offseason program, especially the last couple
of days, felt like some positives out of that group. Ohough,
real good, okay.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I thought the defense had an outstanding mini.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Cap I mean really okay, Well we'll dig into that.
To me was the bright spot. There's a lot to
discuss here. Then I'm excited to hear this from you,
all right. That's when we come back on ten XL,
Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. This is the final
Jaguars Happy Hour of the offseason. Just there, how you
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go about his work. You know, he held me out
a lot. Like I said last time, I came up
here and talking. So just been able to take Thames
from him into money game and.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Part for party game is just I'm I can applaud
to my game and make me better.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It's Travis Hunter after Wednesday's practice, when asked about Brian
Thomas Junior and the impact of the Pro Bowl receiver
on him so far in this offseason. Welcome Back Jaguars
Football is presented by Fresh from Florida. It's always in season.
It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We're at
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the Hyundai Studios the Miller Electric Center for the final
time in the offseason. Program vacation begins in forty two minutes.
We're counting down less than forty two to the dead
zones than minutes. You know, it's not really the dead zone.
I mean, there are still things that could be happening
from a league standpoint, but I was pretty dead though,
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come on, compared to the other eleven months of the year,
you know, I mean, look at yeah, it's pretty dead.
But there's still some things that are gonna be interesting
to watch. I mean from a league standpoint. I mean,
what's gonna happen with Jaylem Ramsey for one? You know?
Of uh, are you really that intrigued by that? I
am intrigued by that. I think it's going to be
very interesting because I don't I don't know if there's
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going to be anybody out there looking Is he going
to play safety for a guy that's gonna cost you
that much money and they're talking about trading them to trade,
you got to have somebody that's on the other side
that wants to take them, you know. So anyway, I
think it's just very interesting, and there's there's some other
storylines that are going to be kind of an interesting watch.
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I mean, what's going on in Cincinnati with Shamar Stewart
the rookie event, and Cincinnati is trying to shove a
clause of the new contract style that nobody in the
league uses down the throat of this rookie first round pick.
It just goes to show you that the Bengals once again, Yeah,
what's the clause, by the way, some type of clause
that you can take away future guarantees based on some
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behavior in one year, which has never been instituted in
the National Football League. Does he have a history or something? No,
I mean, that's that's weird. I don't I don't get it.
As far as I know, he doesn't have any history. Okay,
But here's the thing. If you had a problem with
the history, okay, don't try to give him a different contract.
Don't pick them. There's plenty of other players to pick. Yeah,
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don't pick the guy you know and anyways, to me,
that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But again that's typical typical Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
That's rare now because since the last CBA and everything,
a couple of cbas go. Now when everything was slotted,
there's no holdouts anymore. Like rookies don't have to hold
out for anything, don't have to do with money.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Nowadays, it's it's just language.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And it's rarely goes this deep either. No, but I
don't think Travis Hunter signed. He has not yet. And
there some guys in Schmart stud being one of them, said, look,
if I don't have a contract, I'm not going to practice.
Which I don't blame any rookie for doing that. I
mean that's you know, that's kind of part of their
abilities or power. They don't have to practice in a
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mini camp if they don't have a contract. There are
some agents that actually advise their clients not to practice
because what happens is something that if a player gets hurt.
Now again that kind of goes back to the organization's history.
So like if you're with the Bengals, I would be
as a rookie less likely to practice without a contract
because they may end up trying to give me a
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lesser contract if I did sustain an injury. Now, the
Jaguars have no history of doing that type of behavior,
So I would be willing to practice with the Jaguars
as a rookie. Remember they when Dante Faller got hurt,
If Valor got hurt and rookie Minnie camp had not
sign anything yet and gave him exactly So I think
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history has a lot to do with that. But yeah,
it's to me, that's interesting stuff. Jaguars defense, lots of
new Anthony Campanelli.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
The Campanelli or is a Campanile.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yes, I mean that's actually a question that he was asked.
He said both.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
He said, I'm good with the either way.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But it's been it's been fun watching him because I
can tell that he brings an energy and a bit
of a swagger to this Jaguars defense. You know, and
if you go back and if you look at Green
Bay's defense from last year, my analysis of them was that, look,
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that's one of the most disciplined defenses that I've watched
all year. I remember preparing for the Jaguars Packers game.
I was like, look, they're not going to give you
any openings. You've better be on you better be on it.
And I think that and I hope that that's a
trade that's going to carry over with this team because
so far in the offseason you can tell that that
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is a trade. They're where they want to be, where
they need to be, whereas last year we know that
that was I think the poorst coaching job in Jaguars
history on the defensive side of the ball. And there
were more mental breakdowns last year, I think, the most
in the league, probably by far the worst performance I thought,
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in Jaguars history. So it's I think it's going to
be easier to get better obviously on that side of
the ball. But I like the intensity that he brings.
I like the assignment, cleanliness, responsibility, knowledge, all of that
is cleaned up and is being cleaned up. How many
contested balls have you seen in that three day mini
camp by defenders over the ball, which means they're where
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they need to be, And to me that that has
been impressive. So look, and I know it's early, you know,
they haven't even played a game yet, but I like
what I'm seeing out of out of him as a
coordinator and what I'm seeing out of his defense, and
the messaging trickles down to the players, of course, and
you can hear some of that messaging that's likely being
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presented in defensive meetings during interviews. One of those is
Jarry and Jones this week when you asked about Campany's
defense and approach, and he said, quote, whooping someone's ass
is the main key end quote. It kind of tells
you everything you need to know. You can tell that
that that comes from the boss man, because he's got
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that attitude, you know. And I was telling you this
a little bit ago, and you know, I'll share it
with everybody on the air.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
You know, I people watch in practice.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I mean I watch players, but then I also watch
how coaches interact, how coaches interact with players with themselves,
and it's fun to watch Anthony Campanile or Campanelli, however
you want to say it, interact with the players because
when he gets them on an individual basis, when they're
in Indy, which Indy folks that we call that individual drill,
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individual periods who'll work with certain position groups and the
intensity is like way high. But that's the moment you
can do those kind of things. You can't have this
super intense red in the face, you know, spit flying
out of your mouth. When you're coordinator, you gotta be calm,
you gotta be cool, and you gotta be reasonable. He
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might be burning up inside with all that's going on,
but you have to have that outer shell that is calm,
you know, and because that's how you want your defense
to play. But when he's an individual period with different
position groups, you can see the intensity comes out in
him in a big way, and it's almost like he
has to do that just to kind of get centered,
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you know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, and then when he's.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Working with the defense, it's that calm, cool demeanor and
I love it. What we're on at ten to excel
Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube is Jaguars Happy Hour. What
is the most intriguing position group that will that you'll
watch during training camp? You know, is it a battle
for a roster spot, is it a group as a whole?
(22:55):
Which one on the defensive side stands out to you
the most? Well, I'm always partial to the defensive lineman
just because that's kind of was my home for ten
years in the league, and so I will watch that
group obviously with a little bit more interest. But to me,
the safety position is to me the most intriguing one.
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I mean, if you go down and you look at
that position from a roster standpoint. Darnell Savage, Daniel Thomas,
Raywan Lane from Navy, Antonio Johnson, Caleb Ransall, draft pick,
Eric Murray free agent that was signed Antonio Johnson. I mean,
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you've got and Winger who is a damn good football
player and arguably one of the best special teams players
that there is. I think in this league you've got
a lot of guys there and you got limited roles.
So I think that's going to be one of the
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most intriguing position group oops, from who's going to start
to who's gonna make the roster? I think from both standpoints.
Let's think about from the special teams perspective. First, right,
you mentioned Wingard, I mean he could be battling for
a starting spot on defense.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And Daniel Thomas.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Daniel Thomas elite special teams players, outstanding, elite special team
And they've said the same thing about Raywan Lane the third,
the rookie out of Navy, that that was his ability
at Navy and maybe it translates in the NFL also,
So those are three right there that just okay, those
guys are going to have roles on special teams, you
would think, well, and then obviously it goes without saying
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Travis Hunter, his role you know with the secondary is
obviously going to be something that's going to be interesting
to watch, you know, But I think it's very important
to allow him to excel at one position. I think
defense is something that he can he can excel at
without getting as many reps as he needs. Needs to
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probably get on offense because offense is so timing and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Related, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And look, the reality is that the offense needs to
kind of find a groove and find a rhythm, and
so I think he needs to spend more time on
offense and a little less time on defense. But I
mean that safety position to me is gonna be really interesting,
and corner for that matter. Yeah, a lot of new
faces in the secondary. The one guy I thought that
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had a really good mini camp, Monterrey Brown, thought he
had a really good mini camp. I'm also a big
fan of DeAndre Prince. I think he's got great man skills,
you know. So, I mean, where are those two gonna
be at? Jar Ian Jones? How are all these guys
gonna end up developing? And obviously the veteran that they signed,
Jordan Jordan Lewis. Lewis is a tremendous player. I was
gonna say, I've been impressed just the practices I've been
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out there. I mean, he's a ninth year player. He
has a presence about him. He's got a mouth on him.
He's not afraid to chirp and kind of keep everybody.
But he's not over the top, right, It's a good Yeah,
it seems like that is a good tone certain guys.
You want him just to shut up, you know what
I mean. You're like, dude, can you just shut up?
You're talking too much. I will not present any names,
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but go ahead, But Jordan Louis is not that. I mean,
it's a playful, fun, competitive banter, not an annoying, shut
the hell up banter. Yeah. And then Tyson Campbell has
had tremendous mini camp and this defense suits him to
a t. On Wednesday, there was a play. It was
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red zone in the end zone closest to the grandstand
field too, and there was a jump ball back left
corner of the end zone Travis Hunter against Jordan Lewis
and it was like a perfect ball. Oh yeah, both
had a chance at it. Lewis knocks it, by the way,
that's a that's a pass and a play that Travis
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Hunter dominated in college. That's right, that's right, And Lewis
made the play on it. And Hunter will get his
at some point and I thought that was to me,
that was like the play of the mini camp, like, Okay,
this kind of tells you where things are right now,
and it went the defense's way at least on that day.
And that was during And the cool thing is is
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that during mini camp there were and you and I
kind of m seed the practice yesterday a little bit
to give the fans an idea of what was happening
during certain periods. And they have certain periods that literally
the intensity goes up and the players know it, Okay,
this is they're keeping score. Okay, offense can win, defense
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can win. And there's a odd number of plays in
each one of these drills, nine to be exact, and
so there's a winner at the end of the drill.
Highly competitive, highly competitive, And I love this because it's
kind of a message from the coaches to the players
that are like, okay, now it's time to turn on
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that that game mindset, ultimate or competitor mindset. And it
was good to see that, and it was it was
highly competitive. You know, they did it in red zone,
they did it in third down, fourth down, over time.
It was cool, much different vibe than the Urban Meyer
winners losers practice stuff. Remember all that when they used
(28:17):
to Yeah, that was that was a different animal altogether.
This is good. It was good team competition. It was
and I think what it does it creates the the
bonding with with groups. You know, offense, okay, make them
bond they're competing as as a group, you know, same
(28:40):
thing with the offense. And I got to say the
defense won. They certainly did. They did. We're back in
a moment and we'll get into what coaches and players
should be doing for the next month or might be doing.
Whether they should or shouldn't your imagination. I don't know.
The one thing that I don't want them doing is
(29:02):
getting into any kind of trouble. We'll get into that
when we return as well. It's into excel Amjaguars dot com,
Jaguars YouTube, this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
We're not really trying to emphasize gap schemes too much
because that's when those collisions can occur, when you're pulling people, trapping, whamming,
pulling two and that's where a lot of those things
that occur that you aren't really supposed to occur in
this phase, right, So we're trying to stay within the rules,
but continue to get better at the zone game.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Right. That's obviously a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Of a safe run in this phase, but also something
that we want to be able to do.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Everybody runs zone in the NFL game, So I think
today was actually some of our better hits on zone
that we've had. Had a couple utter ones yesterday. But
I think once you get into training camp, the run
game will have to diversify a little bit more in
terms of, all right, we got the pads on, where
are toss cracks now coming out? I'm not gonna go crack.
One of our personal our players on our team.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Willam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, earlier today discussing the run
game practices here in the off season program and how
they will change once the heat of training camp is
upon us. Welcome back as Jaguars Happy Are. The twenty
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Speaker 1 (30:35):
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Speaker 3 (30:37):
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Speaker 1 (30:43):
I never saw.
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That's a that's a band.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yes, Vampire Weekend is a band. I got it, so
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Looking forward to those. All right, so off seasons here,
you know, this is this is the day where I
mean they shortened practice a little bit probably, I think
they had some meetings and things after and then there
is a stampede to the parking lot to get in
(31:35):
the cars to get out of here for some guys,
I mean, and there are some guys that are gonna
stay here.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The facility will remain open to players, and the staff
will I'm sure kind of handle it from you know,
because the staff needs a break to you know, we
were talking earlier about how the what the players need
to do at this point of the season, but the
staff has to be able to prepare their mind and
(32:02):
their families for the grind that they're getting ready to
undertake here pretty soon too, so they need time away
as well. So but yeah, I mean there's a lot
of guys that I mean that are like doing what
you're talking about as soon as this practice was over
and they were done and they were rolling to wherever
they wanted to go. But I think the rookies are
(32:23):
still in town for another two weeks to continue to work,
which is good. But at the same token, you know
they're going to need some time away too, because you know,
the the from the time the rookies football season ends
to when they get drafted and everything that leads up
(32:45):
to that, and then right after.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's like a whirlwind.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And look, you don't even know sometimes what day of
the week it is or what month it is, and
you know, you haven't trained necessarily for football. You were
training for all of these drills that we're going to
be evaluated from a clock standpoint. So now you need
to make sure that you're training yourself to get ready
to play football. And I think part of these next
(33:10):
two weeks will be a lot of that for them.
There will be Liam Cohen, who we just heard from
also on the Pat McAfee show today, said he's going
on a big golf trip to Scotland coming up I
think next week, So the next couple of weeks coaches
will have some time as well, and then once kind
of mid July hits, they're all back in the fold again,
(33:31):
getting ready for the early arrivals rookies quarterbacks and then
training camp in late July. Yeah, I mean, look, the coaches,
the coaches grind. I mean, the demands of being an
NFL coach from a time standpoint and time spent away
from family is huge. And so any chance that did
they get to travel and spend time with family and
(33:55):
to do a phenomenal trip like that to go play golf,
I mean, good for him, because once he comes back,
it's going to be all business for the foreseeable future.
And then the next break he's gonna get it's gonna
be you hope after the super Bowl, right after the parade,
right you come on? Yeah, yeah, exactly. That'd be great
(34:16):
if you could pick one place to go. JP Shattery, Yes,
that's me. Okay, you've got an opportunity. Okay, you've got
the resources. You know, you're you're pulling in good money,
You're you're coach in the Nationals this must be a
fictional account.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But yes, okay, where would you go to your mind?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Would you go golfing fishing some exotic island with sand
and serve? I got a bad risk right now, So
golf's out of the golf sasion. Okay, I'm not you know,
the beach. We got the beach here, so I'm not
necessarily gonna fly two thousand miles to go to the
beach when we go to the beach here. I don't
really go to the beach here either.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's a good question, but that's the question.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Maybe something that's a little cooler than here, Okay, you know,
maybe heading to the north somewhere. Maybe, yeah, because it
is we're in a swamp logs and it is hotter
than hell.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Pretty warm, yeah, pretty warm.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
So maybe something to get out of the heat for
a couple of weeks. I don't know. Canada, yeah, Canada,
Alaska maybe, I mean, last couple of years, been fortunate
enough to go to the British Isles right in the summer,
right and it's a totally it's like sixty degrees and
raining every day, perfect cool, right, love it. Yeah, So
I dig that, But I mean, that's that's kind of.
(35:36):
I think the mindset. I mean, take your family, take
yourself get away, don't lose the edge that you have
gained from a training standpoint, and continue to make sure
that you're watching what you're putting in your body, because
you don't want to start backpedaling and losing ground that
you've gained throughout the off season conditioning and OTAs and
(35:59):
everything of that nature. So but you got to you
got to be able to give the mind a little
bit of a break. Well let's ask just the other way.
Let's say you had that same situation. What would be
your ideal get away? What did what did you like
to do during that month? Well, I think from a
player's standpoint, you want to be if you're going to
go somewhere, you still want to be able to work
(36:20):
out to some extent. So that would be a Seriously,
you have to, I mean you can't. You can take
three or four days and not train, but you can't
go somewhere for two weeks and not have have lifted
a weight or done some type of conditioning. So the
first thing that you think of is that where can
I go that I can still accomplish some of my
(36:42):
training goals where can I go to still meet some
of my dietary restrictions that I have, right, I mean,
so a lot of that factors into it. And there
are different places that you can go to that have
a lot of those amenities that are built in that.
Some places that are cooler, some places that are warmer.
(37:03):
But it's got to have those those things that I
talk about, the ability to train, the ability to have
the facilities to accomplish what you want, and also the
ability to watch what you're eating.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
All those have to be considered.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Did you when you played, did you just stick around
here and fish for a month? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I mean who would want to leave this place other
than heaven?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Right? Yeah, I mean the fishing here in the summertime
is just tremendous. At least where I lived at Saint
John's Revan was incredible. Sure you know so, I mean yeah,
I mean I tried to stay here. And that's the
great thing.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Back in the early days, they actually closed the old
stadium up where we trained at. They closed it up.
You didn't even have the option of working out inside.
They closed it up for a period of time. But
now they keep it open for the players.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
You talked about all the good fishing down at your
old place. I mean I went there a couple of times.
I didn't catch a damn thing. Well, you're just not
very good fishermen. Yeah, sorry, true, yeah, operator reality, it's
very true.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
But I mean, look.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
There there there is nothing wrong with a staycation in Jacksonville,
I can tell you. But but you know, look, you
want to go see family sometimes and uh and then
mat me take a take a great trip. Man, reward
yourself for the hard work that you've done. It's all good.
Let's come back. We'll get our final thoughts in before
(38:28):
vacation begins. In about fifteen minutes. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Some good days.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Some days were a little sloppier, and that's just that's
part of especially a new system, a lot of new guys.
Everyone's playing together kind of for the first time for
a lot of us. So overall, I thought it was
really good. I thought we learned a lot, took some
really big steps of improvement throughout OTAs And you know,
I'm proud of the guys how they worked. Everyone you know,
worked their tail off all off season, really pushed ourselves,
(39:04):
you know, there's a lot of times where this is
a period where some people can kind of take it easy,
and I felt like every day we really came out here,
you know, busted our ass and really were intentional about
what we were doing.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback with a sweet headband after practice today,
meeting with the media. Full availability at Jaguars dot com
and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour from the
Honday Studios, the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.
Final show until July twenty fourth. I get the impression
that you're, you know, pointing out the headband because you're
(39:37):
jealous of the flowing locks of Trevor Lawrence. You're not wrong,
it's been a long time. You should, you should. I
didn't do the show with a bandana. Sometimes I need
a lot of things. Logs is what I need. I
used to have long hair one time. Actually, did you
really high school?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Did you have a mullet?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
No? I had like long hair, long hair. It was thick, long,
everyone was big.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, did you ever have a mullet?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I did not do you that. I guess that would
be a reverse mullet when it's long at the top,
short on the size.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Is that what you had? One of those reverse mullets.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
No, you had a mullet, top had a kick. Yeah,
I had a strong mullet. Business in the front, party
in the back had a strong mullet. Somebody told me
one time, there's a photo of you somewhere walking out
shirtless pregame in New York. We had the big ponytail
(40:32):
hanging down like pregame warm ups. Did you used to
do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I may have. I don't know, as might have. There's
one guy in his building that always claims that.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
That happened, and we know who that is. Perk would
be one of his nicknames. Yeah, yeah, I don't know
if there's any validity to what he's saying, but I
can say I believe him. You never know, Jack. I
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(41:08):
Let me try it sometime.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
It's good for you.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
It is. This is the final show before the dead zone.
You want to cut the roster now or like you
want to wait till training can Here's the deal, Mini
Camp is a great time to evaluate some things because
there's no pads. I a lot of stars out there
(41:31):
right now, and I've learned I've learned, okay over the
last thirty six years, okay, of being around the NFL
that don't get overly excited about anything from mini camp
or the OTAs or anything of that nature. Even in
training camp. You know, just just slow down because the
(41:54):
pads have to come on. And then there are different
levels of achievement of achievement for players. I mean, there's
certain guys that you know that they shine through everything OTAs,
mini camp, training camp, and then the games when the
lights come on, they continue to elevate their game, and
(42:14):
there are some that just fall by the wayside because
they're not consistent enough, or they're not physical enough, or
they're not mentally tough enough. I mean, it's to me,
it's the hardest game to play in all of professional sports,
because it is it is demanding from a physical standpoint,
(42:37):
but most importantly, it's incredibly demanding from a mental standpoint.
You have to be mentally tough to play this game,
and some guys just can't do it, you know, And
some guys will have moments, but the consistency. The great
ones have a consistency about them, and then shine through
all of that. And so you want to see the
(42:59):
whole book, you know, before you start to jump to
conclusions a little bit, you know, after a couple chapters.
So and especially we haven't seen the big guys hit
each other. Ayah, nothing, you know. I mean, like, for example,
I'll give you a perfect example. Uh ninety one look
(43:19):
unblockable in this mini camp. Okay, okay, Eric, I mean
that's great, I'm excited about it. It's cool. But again, okay,
let's let's get to the regular season. And Tom Harrison
didn't look great at moments, but it's the off season OTAs, Okay,
(43:41):
what's he gonna do once we get to camp when
it starts to become real. You know. So there are
things that you think, but things that you just don't
know yet at this time of the year. And then
Liam Cohen has talked about that a little while ago.
We heard from it. Especially in the run game. You
can't run certain ideas is because it's a non contact
(44:01):
time of year. You can't even do that well. And
you'll start doing it in training camp. Well, and look,
you have a set of rules that you've got to
go buying from the coaches standpoint, and if you don't
follow those rules, then you end up getting fined heavily
and also losing maybe some other aspect of your training
(44:22):
ability in the future for violating rules that are set
out in the collective bargaining agreement. So yeah, so I'm
gonna be looking forward very much to training camp because
that's when you start to know about a lot of
guys like we have. We think, for example, the offensive
line is going to be much more competitive.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
They've brought guys in in free agency.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
They've got a couple of them undrafted, one of them drafted.
We think it's gonna be better. Well, we've got to
wait and see, you know, until the pads come on.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
What do you have?
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Fred Johnson's a giant human being? Is giant human being? Sure,
But you know what, a giant human being can't really
impose his giantness opponent.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I'm making it a word.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Giant can't do that against an opponent at this point
of their juncture of the off season. Let's see, by
the way I talked with him the other day, he's
listed at six seven three twenty six. I don't think
he's sixty seven. I think he's I think he's six'. Eight,
Really i'm just telling YOU. JP i went up to
introduce myself to him and talked with him for five
(45:31):
or ten minutes and was asking him, about you, know
the natural position that he likes and how many starts
he's had at each each. Spot And i'm just sitting
there and the person that came to mind because the
only player THAT i ever went against in THE nfl
to WHERE i was in awe of how.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Big he, was With Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Ogdenden i'll never, forget never forget the first TIME i
ever played against against john AND i was just, like oh.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
My, god.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
This guy is. Legit he's a giant human. Being Fred
johnson's that's he's in the same. Category he's the. Second
he's the second guy That i've ever been around that
is just an absolute and the guy For philadelphia is
in the same. Category the left tackle My, Lotta Jordan,
mylatta who is the biggest human being of them, all
(46:29):
and standing around him is, like oh my, God Fred,
Johnson Jordan, mylotta and then of Course Jonathan, ogden three
biggest human beings That i've ever been around in. Football
my first one of my first years, here we played
The patriots And Vince wilfork was one of Those for,
ME i was, like oh, boy this is different, Now
(46:50):
he's just why really, massive really human. Being Sarah goose
a kind of in the same. Category and then the
nose tackle that played Alongside.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Sarah goose uh, Oh Raw Donald, blank really good football player.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Who was the one in the nineties for The packers
who was the nose Tackle gilbert H that guy was Not.
Tony gilbert was. HUGE i can't remember his first, name But,
gilbert and he was he. Was all you would do
is just that and stand. There it's all he had to.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Do that's.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
It he was a space eater and that you weren't
running anywhere with his outstretched arms that he had that.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
COVERED i got this right. Here you just forget Like Sean, Gilbert, sean.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
That sounds, close but it's, Funny like you know on
television the players running, around but if you have the
opportunity to get close to them or on the sideline or,
whatever it's, like all these guys are. Different was. It
Sam adams who was next To Sarah goosen might have.
BEEN i think it was another just giant human being.
(47:53):
Man but for, Real Fred johnson is just a.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
GIANT i think he's.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Got he's got a, shot, Right so player out Of,
florida look watching he isn't you. Know he doesn't have
a whole lot of career starts. Now and but when
he started For philadelphia and he started at different positions for,
them he did a really good, job you. Know and That's,
look that's a really good offensive. Line and they have
a standard that they, set you, know so when you
(48:21):
join that, rank, okay it's understood we're, here you. Know
so if you're, playing you need to be here at
this level with. Us and so when you have a
room and a group like, that they demand that you
play to their. Level and that's one of the best
offensive line coaches, too exists In. Philadelphia and if you
(48:45):
if you can develop that mindset, here that would be,
outstanding would Be.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
That's the.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
GOAL i, mean, look that's the. Goal he's still going
to answer a lot of questions in training. Camp you
know who's going to be out there. First, well then
that's it's. Competitive it's going to be very competitive along
the offensive line this. Year and AND i think there's
also going to be some interesting where interesting from the
standpoint of where are guys going to find a? Home
(49:14):
you know it from you Because patrick, McCary for, example you,
know is he going to be right? Guard could he
play left right? Tackle you, know you had a couple
of guys moving in and out of, there you. Know
SO i think it's going to be an interesting. Watch
they got to be, better, THOUGH i can tell you,
that and they got to learn how to run the.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Ball.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Man the last couple of years with.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
This, OFFENSE i think that was one of the biggest
downfalls to this offense In jacksonville was the lack the
lack of ability to run the ball when he needed
to run, it and short yardage was like right at
the top of for perfect examples to what they couldn't.
DO i, mean the last two, years the third, down
(49:58):
third and short running game was. Terrible it's. Awful it
was like it felt like third and five all the.
Time AND i think the mindset was that the run
was kind of an. Afterthought it's gotta, change all, Right,
logs great off, Season enjoy your few weeks. Away we'll
talk to you in training. Camp Happy Early Father's.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Day thank, You thank, you and tell your popsh happy.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:55):
How's your congestion?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Clear as a bell? Apparently about the last show because
it means that there's gonna be a little bit of
a break for us.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
But you know this is the.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Time of a good break. Well, there's nothing wrong with
a great break, but this is the time of year
too that the players really need to take a break
from a mental standpoint, not from a physical standpoint. The
training still has to go on, but you've got to
be able to step away for a while to kind
(01:29):
of to get ready to focus in and lock in
for a season, because I mean that's it's incredibly demanding.
A lot of people kind of don't understand the mental grind.
I mean people think that playing football is easy. It's
just you're being an athlete. Well, try dealing with about
fifteen different injuries throughout the course of about six months
(01:51):
and trying to perform at your best level. I mean
it's hard. It's hard, and it takes a lot of
mental concentration and mental strength to be able to do that.
And there's only one way that you can prepare yourself,
and that's to get the mind free and clear and
refreshed once you roll back up in here and then
from the physical part of that coming up. You can't
(02:13):
just be sitting on the couch eating cheetos the whole time.
But there are days that are that's okay, it's called
cheat daye Yes, I don't want to say cheetos. But
but I think also part of part of this time
of getting away is that you have days that you
break the discipline to treat yourself to something nice. I mean,
(02:38):
it's a reward you know, and and I had I
had one day a week that I always used to
do though really when I when I played during when
I was training in the off season, and that I
would always pick one day to have something.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That wasn't great for you, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And I probably had more than just one a week,
but I tried to keep it to one a week,
and and it was good because I mean it just again,
it kind of allowed you to just be human, you know,
instead of this.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Going back to the Rocky movie, right when Drago.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
This machine preparing and no pizza, no burgers, no ice cream.
Wait a minute, Wait a minute. You got to have
a little bit of fun. And that's why Rocky was
able to beat him by the way he had a
little bit of well, he trained in Siberia. It was
the tough way. He went to the scenic rout to
do it. Yes, you got to be able to you
know what I'm saying. You got to have a little
(03:33):
bit of mental fun through the whole process and physical fun.
We'll get to the off season coming up here in
just a little bit. But the final mandatory mini camp
practice was today. It was reduced by the time. It
was a great crowd out here. By the way, on Wednesday,
fans were invited to come out. Doesn't happen. I don't
ever remember it happened for a mandatory mini Can.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
We get a number on that?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
By the way, I think capacity I think is right
at too, But it felt like there were a lot
more people.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
There's a lot of people standing around too now.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Which was cool to see. Which if you made it
out here, thanks for coming. It was a great day
of practice. Today was shortened a little bit, but the
highlight today logs. You always say you look for Travis
Hunter first thing I look at. You saw him on
both sides of the football today in a single practice
for the first time. Yeah, And I don't know if
(04:24):
this was the only time that it's actually at least
Liam Cohen said on the McAfee show today that it
is the first time he's done both in one practice.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And it was the first time for sure that we
had seen. I wasn't for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So it's good to hear that because you and I
were standing there and we were who are we We're
talking to Joe cow We're talking to Joe Cower and
we're all kind of shooting the breeze, and then all
of a sudden, we look out there and we're like, uh,
wait a minute, you pointed it out right, He said, hey,
By the way, I hate to interrupt the conversation, but
Travis Hunters now wearing a white jersey, because he started
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the practice.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Out wearing a teal jersey, which is offensive color.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
He was running routes and doing everything on offense and
then he flipped it over to the white jersey today
and so yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
It was fun to watch. There was a lot of reps,
more reps today for the twos and threes today than
I think the ones. Yesterday was a day of a
lot of reps for the one. But it was fun
watching twelve on offense and on defense. And you know,
there's a lot of work to be done with his
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football team. Travis has got a lot of work to do,
and it's not anywhere near a finished project, and nor
should it look like a finished project at this point.
There's still time and uh, they're going to have to
have a really good training camp. When you've got a
new system, new coaches, new foundation, everything needs to come
together in time, and I can't wait to see it
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come together. Another thing I liked to see today was
Brian Thomas Junior back on the practice field after a
little bit of a scare on Winds. Went down on
his shoulder, walked back on the field yesterday, didn't get
back into the work, but then it was back out
there and apparently working full today. That's good. When he
went down, there was kind of this collective gasp. I
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guess you could say it practice. And at first when
I saw him down, I was like, oh my gosh,
is that a knee, you know, because that's your first concern.
Is that something you know, crazy happens, non contact or contact,
it related, doesn't matter. And he got up and then
you could tell that he was walking and had his
right arm kind of held tight to his right side,
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and you're like, okay, it looks like maybe an arm
or shoulder or something. He comes out, he went inside
for a bit, came out and he's kind of moving
around a little bit. So very encouraging that he was
out there practice today, you know. And if there's a
list of guys as far as don't get hurt on
the Jaguars roster, Trevor number one, yeah, quarterback, right, I mean,
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see what happens when that's happened for the most important
position that there is on a foot ball team. Travis
Hunter number two, just because I think Travis represents hope,
represents hope, and change. Brian Thomas because he's a phenomenal
football player. And then you go down to like Josh
and Trayvon. I think is as the next two guys,
just thinking for the perspective of a guy that you
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didn't list right there, I know, Wait a minute, I'm
not in the I'm not on his list. I'm not guys,
a kid be injured, wait a minute. You know, I'm kidding.
Everybody else can get her, and I'm just kidding right
right now. And then the other positive of the mini
camp is complete and there were no injuries to speak
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of of significance or really anything that I saw myself,
I mean, and that's you know, the goal always of
the off season is to get better number one and
probably one B is to stay healthy. Get any into
training camp as healthy as you possibly can.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So, you know, so I think.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Some objectives will reach and the work again, there's a
lot of work done, but there's still plenty of work
to do with this football team. We'll get to the
Jags defense coming up in just a little bit, and
what you saw this offseason from that group, new scheme,
a lot of new faces in the back end of
that defense. But we continue on tintin xl Amjaguars dot
Com and Jaguars YouTube and Jaguars Happy Hour with the
(08:20):
offense and you know, a lot of focus. You mentioned
the quarterback there, he spoke today. We'll hear from him
coming up in just a little bit. But it's all
about how he handles the offense, how he executes, how
healthy he is. He was wearing a black sleeve on
his throwing arm today he said, just some general swords
and yesterday, Yeah, nothing to really be worried about. But
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this is obviously a huge season for him coming up.
He's got the contract and everything moving ahead, but a
new offense, new coaching staff. He's got to start taking
steps forward and you know, the next month or so
to get ready for training camp or for him too well, and.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I think in a big way he needs to take
a step up.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I mean, this is at the point of a quarterback's
career where you expect to see big gains in his game.
The concerning thing to me is that day two of
Mini camp was not very good yesterday. Yeah, I felt
like the defense had a better day on which I'm
okay with the defense having good moments, but I thought
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Trevor didn't have a good day. And even Liam Collins
said he had a lot of balls on the ground.
I mean, like, you can't have that in a non
contact practice. It shouldn't happen well. And look, there's a
lot that goes into the performance of the quarterback. The
performance around him also has to be good to allow
him to be good. But his feet have got to
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get better in certain situations. There was one throw in
particular in a red zone drill where I mean he
didn't even adjust his feet to make a throw and
the ball sailed on him. I mean, you got to
step into the throws and adjust your feet.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And he knows that.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
And that's a huge factor with Liam Cohne's offense, and
he talked extensively about it ways back in the off
season and he realizes it and he's got it to
continue to work at it and continue to improve.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
You know, there are.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Certain quarterbacks that can throw at any which way you want,
like Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I mean, his feet aren't perfect all the time.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But he's got that innate ability just to throw it
from different positions in different angles. That's not Trevor. Trevor
I think is a quarterback that Look, he's got to
be disciplined with his feet to get the best result,
you know, And that's just how it is, and he's
got to continue to work at it and he will.
He's got a great work ethic. And also his receivers
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need to know where they are need to be as well.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
So there's some moments.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
There was a little confusion as well yesterday going back
to yesterday to where it looked like they weren't clean
on assignment knowledge, which is you know that happens.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It's a it's a lot of new players on that
side of the ball as well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know, we've we've talked about all these receivers and
you know, the running back room and everything. By the way,
just let me jump in right there when you mentioned
the running back room, that may be one of the
most interesting position groups to watch going into training camp.
(11:29):
And then also when we get down to the first
game and what roles are going to be earned and
will it impact the roster, you know, could there be
any changes there because you've got a talented room. Yes
you do. And the reality is is that that room,
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once you get past a couple spots, special teams contributions has.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
To be a factor. Well, you look at what they
have now.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I mean, you've got two rookies that were drafted, got
Tank Bigsby, Etn. I mean, you got four guys right
there that are really good football players as far as
running backs go. But is there a special team's capability there?
You know, some you might think yay, some you might
think nay. So I think that's going to be a
(12:19):
really And I say that because I think it's a
very talented room, and I think it's going to be
very interesting to watch how the roles are earned out
of that room. Etn's getting about six and a half
this year million in his final year of his rookie contract,
the fifth year option season. Of course, Tank Bigsby in
year number three out of Auburn. But I think the
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thing that really stands out about the new guys is
the speed a Schultoton especially has that I mean explosive,
take it to the house speed from anywhere. If he
can hang on to the faseball. Powerful and he's strong
and put the one area that he's got to work
gone ball security. Ball security. I mean, if there was
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really the only knock in his game coming out of
Virginia Tech was ball security. I think if there were
no issues with ball security, then he might have been
talked about with the elite running backs that went in
the first round and then soon after. So that's something
that he has to work on. And earlier today, I
(13:27):
was listening to Tom Coughlin on a radio show and
he was talking about how he worked with Tiki Barber
and solving some of those ball security issues with Tiki,
and I think the coaching staff is working very hard
with him as well, and it's something that he has
to embrace and realize. And so you've got two guys
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that are in that room, Tank Bigsby. I think it
was about one fumble every thirty carries I think so
far in his career, not fumbles loss, but fumbles, which
that's what matters anyway. So you've got to make sure
that those that area with those two guys is cleaned up.
We've got plenty ahead we'll return and get into the
(14:11):
Jaguars defense over this offseason program, especially the last couple
of days, felt like some positives out of that group. Ohough,
real good, okay.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I thought the defense had an outstanding mini.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Cap I mean really okay, Well we'll dig into that.
To me was the bright spot. There's a lot to
discuss here. Then I'm excited to hear this from you,
all right. That's when we come back on ten XL,
Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. This is the final
Jaguars Happy Hour of the offseason. Just there, how you
(14:52):
go about his work. You know, he held me out
a lot. Like I said last time, I came up
here and talking. So just been able to take Thames
from him into money game and.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Part for party game is just I'm I can applaud
to my game and make me better.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
It's Travis Hunter after Wednesday's practice, when asked about Brian
Thomas Junior and the impact of the Pro Bowl receiver
on him so far in this offseason. Welcome Back Jaguars
Football is presented by Fresh from Florida. It's always in season.
It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman. We're at
(15:24):
the Hyundai Studios the Miller Electric Center for the final
time in the offseason. Program vacation begins in forty two minutes.
We're counting down less than forty two to the dead
zones than minutes. You know, it's not really the dead zone.
I mean, there are still things that could be happening
from a league standpoint, but I was pretty dead though,
(15:46):
come on, compared to the other eleven months of the year,
you know, I mean, look at yeah, it's pretty dead.
But there's still some things that are gonna be interesting
to watch. I mean from a league standpoint. I mean,
what's gonna happen with Jaylem Ramsey for one? You know?
Of uh, are you really that intrigued by that? I
am intrigued by that. I think it's going to be
very interesting because I don't I don't know if there's
(16:07):
going to be anybody out there looking Is he going
to play safety for a guy that's gonna cost you
that much money and they're talking about trading them to trade,
you got to have somebody that's on the other side
that wants to take them, you know. So anyway, I
think it's just very interesting, and there's there's some other
storylines that are going to be kind of an interesting watch.
(16:28):
I mean, what's going on in Cincinnati with Shamar Stewart
the rookie event, and Cincinnati is trying to shove a
clause of the new contract style that nobody in the
league uses down the throat of this rookie first round pick.
It just goes to show you that the Bengals once again, Yeah,
what's the clause, by the way, some type of clause
that you can take away future guarantees based on some
(16:50):
behavior in one year, which has never been instituted in
the National Football League. Does he have a history or something? No,
I mean, that's that's weird. I don't I don't get it.
As far as I know, he doesn't have any history. Okay,
But here's the thing. If you had a problem with
the history, okay, don't try to give him a different contract.
Don't pick them. There's plenty of other players to pick. Yeah,
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don't pick the guy you know and anyways, to me,
that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But again that's typical typical Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
That's rare now because since the last CBA and everything,
a couple of cbas go. Now when everything was slotted,
there's no holdouts anymore. Like rookies don't have to hold
out for anything, don't have to do with money.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Nowadays, it's it's just language.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And it's rarely goes this deep either. No, but I
don't think Travis Hunter signed. He has not yet. And
there some guys in Schmart stud being one of them, said, look,
if I don't have a contract, I'm not going to practice.
Which I don't blame any rookie for doing that. I
mean that's you know, that's kind of part of their
abilities or power. They don't have to practice in a
(17:55):
mini camp if they don't have a contract. There are
some agents that actually advise their clients not to practice
because what happens is something that if a player gets hurt.
Now again that kind of goes back to the organization's history.
So like if you're with the Bengals, I would be
as a rookie less likely to practice without a contract
because they may end up trying to give me a
(18:18):
lesser contract if I did sustain an injury. Now, the
Jaguars have no history of doing that type of behavior,
So I would be willing to practice with the Jaguars
as a rookie. Remember they when Dante Faller got hurt,
If Valor got hurt and rookie Minnie camp had not
sign anything yet and gave him exactly So I think
(18:39):
history has a lot to do with that. But yeah,
it's to me, that's interesting stuff. Jaguars defense, lots of
new Anthony Campanelli.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
The Campanelli or is a Campanile.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yes, I mean that's actually a question that he was asked.
He said both.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
He said, I'm good with the either way.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But it's been it's been fun watching him because I
can tell that he brings an energy and a bit
of a swagger to this Jaguars defense. You know, and
if you go back and if you look at Green
Bay's defense from last year, my analysis of them was that, look,
(19:23):
that's one of the most disciplined defenses that I've watched
all year. I remember preparing for the Jaguars Packers game.
I was like, look, they're not going to give you
any openings. You've better be on you better be on it.
And I think that and I hope that that's a
trade that's going to carry over with this team because
so far in the offseason you can tell that that
(19:45):
is a trade. They're where they want to be, where
they need to be, whereas last year we know that
that was I think the poorst coaching job in Jaguars
history on the defensive side of the ball. And there
were more mental breakdowns last year, I think, the most
in the league, probably by far the worst performance I thought,
(20:07):
in Jaguars history. So it's I think it's going to
be easier to get better obviously on that side of
the ball. But I like the intensity that he brings.
I like the assignment, cleanliness, responsibility, knowledge, all of that
is cleaned up and is being cleaned up. How many
contested balls have you seen in that three day mini
camp by defenders over the ball, which means they're where
(20:32):
they need to be, And to me that that has
been impressive. So look, and I know it's early, you know,
they haven't even played a game yet, but I like
what I'm seeing out of out of him as a
coordinator and what I'm seeing out of his defense, and
the messaging trickles down to the players, of course, and
you can hear some of that messaging that's likely being
(20:54):
presented in defensive meetings during interviews. One of those is
Jarry and Jones this week when you asked about Campany's
defense and approach, and he said, quote, whooping someone's ass
is the main key end quote. It kind of tells
you everything you need to know. You can tell that
that that comes from the boss man, because he's got
(21:15):
that attitude, you know. And I was telling you this
a little bit ago, and you know, I'll share it
with everybody on the air.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
You know, I people watch in practice.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I mean I watch players, but then I also watch
how coaches interact, how coaches interact with players with themselves,
and it's fun to watch Anthony Campanile or Campanelli, however
you want to say it, interact with the players because
when he gets them on an individual basis, when they're
in Indy, which Indy folks that we call that individual drill,
(21:45):
individual periods who'll work with certain position groups and the
intensity is like way high. But that's the moment you
can do those kind of things. You can't have this
super intense red in the face, you know, spit flying
out of your mouth. When you're coordinator, you gotta be calm,
you gotta be cool, and you gotta be reasonable. He
(22:08):
might be burning up inside with all that's going on,
but you have to have that outer shell that is calm,
you know, and because that's how you want your defense
to play. But when he's an individual period with different
position groups, you can see the intensity comes out in
him in a big way, and it's almost like he
has to do that just to kind of get centered,
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you know a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, and then when he's.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Working with the defense, it's that calm, cool demeanor and
I love it. What we're on at ten to excel
Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube is Jaguars Happy Hour. What
is the most intriguing position group that will that you'll
watch during training camp? You know, is it a battle
for a roster spot, is it a group as a whole?
(22:55):
Which one on the defensive side stands out to you
the most? Well, I'm always partial to the defensive lineman
just because that's kind of was my home for ten
years in the league, and so I will watch that
group obviously with a little bit more interest. But to me,
the safety position is to me the most intriguing one.
(23:16):
I mean, if you go down and you look at
that position from a roster standpoint. Darnell Savage, Daniel Thomas,
Raywan Lane from Navy, Antonio Johnson, Caleb Ransall, draft pick,
Eric Murray free agent that was signed Antonio Johnson. I mean,
(23:37):
you've got and Winger who is a damn good football
player and arguably one of the best special teams players
that there is. I think in this league you've got
a lot of guys there and you got limited roles.
So I think that's going to be one of the
(23:58):
most intriguing position group oops, from who's going to start
to who's gonna make the roster? I think from both standpoints.
Let's think about from the special teams perspective. First, right,
you mentioned Wingard, I mean he could be battling for
a starting spot on defense.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And Daniel Thomas.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Daniel Thomas elite special teams players, outstanding, elite special team
And they've said the same thing about Raywan Lane the third,
the rookie out of Navy, that that was his ability
at Navy and maybe it translates in the NFL also,
So those are three right there that just okay, those
guys are going to have roles on special teams, you
would think, well, and then obviously it goes without saying
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Travis Hunter, his role you know with the secondary is
obviously going to be something that's going to be interesting
to watch, you know, But I think it's very important
to allow him to excel at one position. I think
defense is something that he can he can excel at
without getting as many reps as he needs. Needs to
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probably get on offense because offense is so timing and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Related, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And look, the reality is that the offense needs to
kind of find a groove and find a rhythm, and
so I think he needs to spend more time on
offense and a little less time on defense. But I
mean that safety position to me is gonna be really interesting,
and corner for that matter. Yeah, a lot of new
faces in the secondary. The one guy I thought that
(25:26):
had a really good mini camp, Monterrey Brown, thought he
had a really good mini camp. I'm also a big
fan of DeAndre Prince. I think he's got great man skills,
you know. So, I mean, where are those two gonna
be at? Jar Ian Jones? How are all these guys
gonna end up developing? And obviously the veteran that they signed,
Jordan Jordan Lewis. Lewis is a tremendous player. I was
gonna say, I've been impressed just the practices I've been
(25:49):
out there. I mean, he's a ninth year player. He
has a presence about him. He's got a mouth on him.
He's not afraid to chirp and kind of keep everybody.
But he's not over the top, right, It's a good Yeah,
it seems like that is a good tone certain guys.
You want him just to shut up, you know what
I mean. You're like, dude, can you just shut up?
You're talking too much. I will not present any names,
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but go ahead, But Jordan Louis is not that. I mean,
it's a playful, fun, competitive banter, not an annoying, shut
the hell up banter. Yeah. And then Tyson Campbell has
had tremendous mini camp and this defense suits him to
a t. On Wednesday, there was a play. It was
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red zone in the end zone closest to the grandstand
field too, and there was a jump ball back left
corner of the end zone Travis Hunter against Jordan Lewis
and it was like a perfect ball. Oh yeah, both
had a chance at it. Lewis knocks it, by the way,
that's a that's a pass and a play that Travis
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Hunter dominated in college. That's right, that's right, And Lewis
made the play on it. And Hunter will get his
at some point and I thought that was to me,
that was like the play of the mini camp, like, Okay,
this kind of tells you where things are right now,
and it went the defense's way at least on that day.
And that was during And the cool thing is is
(27:14):
that during mini camp there were and you and I
kind of m seed the practice yesterday a little bit
to give the fans an idea of what was happening
during certain periods. And they have certain periods that literally
the intensity goes up and the players know it, Okay,
this is they're keeping score. Okay, offense can win, defense
(27:34):
can win. And there's a odd number of plays in
each one of these drills, nine to be exact, and
so there's a winner at the end of the drill.
Highly competitive, highly competitive, And I love this because it's
kind of a message from the coaches to the players
that are like, okay, now it's time to turn on
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that that game mindset, ultimate or competitor mindset. And it
was good to see that, and it was it was
highly competitive. You know, they did it in red zone,
they did it in third down, fourth down, over time.
It was cool, much different vibe than the Urban Meyer
winners losers practice stuff. Remember all that when they used
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to Yeah, that was that was a different animal altogether.
This is good. It was good team competition. It was
and I think what it does it creates the the
bonding with with groups. You know, offense, okay, make them
bond they're competing as as a group, you know, same
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thing with the offense. And I got to say the
defense won. They certainly did. They did. We're back in
a moment and we'll get into what coaches and players
should be doing for the next month or might be doing.
Whether they should or shouldn't your imagination. I don't know.
The one thing that I don't want them doing is
(29:02):
getting into any kind of trouble. We'll get into that
when we return as well. It's into excel Amjaguars dot com,
Jaguars YouTube, this is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
We're not really trying to emphasize gap schemes too much
because that's when those collisions can occur, when you're pulling people, trapping, whamming,
pulling two and that's where a lot of those things
that occur that you aren't really supposed to occur in
this phase, right, So we're trying to stay within the rules,
but continue to get better at the zone game.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Right. That's obviously a little bit more.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
Of a safe run in this phase, but also something
that we want to be able to do.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Right.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Everybody runs zone in the NFL game, So I think
today was actually some of our better hits on zone
that we've had. Had a couple utter ones yesterday. But
I think once you get into training camp, the run
game will have to diversify a little bit more in
terms of, all right, we got the pads on, where
are toss cracks now coming out? I'm not gonna go crack.
One of our personal our players on our team.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Willam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, earlier today discussing the run
game practices here in the off season program and how
they will change once the heat of training camp is
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Looking forward to those. All right, so off seasons here,
you know, this is this is the day where I
mean they shortened practice a little bit probably, I think
they had some meetings and things after and then there
is a stampede to the parking lot to get in
(31:35):
the cars to get out of here for some guys,
I mean, and there are some guys that are gonna
stay here.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
The facility will remain open to players, and the staff
will I'm sure kind of handle it from you know,
because the staff needs a break to you know, we
were talking earlier about how the what the players need
to do at this point of the season, but the
staff has to be able to prepare their mind and
(32:02):
their families for the grind that they're getting ready to
undertake here pretty soon too, so they need time away
as well. So but yeah, I mean there's a lot
of guys that I mean that are like doing what
you're talking about as soon as this practice was over
and they were done and they were rolling to wherever
they wanted to go. But I think the rookies are
(32:23):
still in town for another two weeks to continue to work,
which is good. But at the same token, you know
they're going to need some time away too, because you know,
the the from the time the rookies football season ends
to when they get drafted and everything that leads up
(32:45):
to that, and then right after.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's like a whirlwind.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And look, you don't even know sometimes what day of
the week it is or what month it is, and
you know, you haven't trained necessarily for football. You were
training for all of these drills that we're going to
be evaluated from a clock standpoint. So now you need
to make sure that you're training yourself to get ready
to play football. And I think part of these next
(33:10):
two weeks will be a lot of that for them.
There will be Liam Cohen, who we just heard from
also on the Pat McAfee show today, said he's going
on a big golf trip to Scotland coming up I
think next week, So the next couple of weeks coaches
will have some time as well, and then once kind
of mid July hits, they're all back in the fold again,
(33:31):
getting ready for the early arrivals rookies quarterbacks and then
training camp in late July. Yeah, I mean, look, the coaches,
the coaches grind. I mean, the demands of being an
NFL coach from a time standpoint and time spent away
from family is huge. And so any chance that did
they get to travel and spend time with family and
(33:55):
to do a phenomenal trip like that to go play golf,
I mean, good for him, because once he comes back,
it's going to be all business for the foreseeable future.
And then the next break he's gonna get it's gonna
be you hope after the super Bowl, right after the parade,
right you come on? Yeah, yeah, exactly. That'd be great
(34:16):
if you could pick one place to go. JP Shattery, Yes,
that's me. Okay, you've got an opportunity. Okay, you've got
the resources. You know, you're you're pulling in good money,
You're you're coach in the Nationals this must be a
fictional account.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But yes, okay, where would you go to your mind?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Would you go golfing fishing some exotic island with sand
and serve? I got a bad risk right now, So
golf's out of the golf sasion. Okay, I'm not you know,
the beach. We got the beach here, so I'm not
necessarily gonna fly two thousand miles to go to the
beach when we go to the beach here. I don't
really go to the beach here either.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
That's a good question, but that's the question.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Maybe something that's a little cooler than here, Okay, you know,
maybe heading to the north somewhere. Maybe, yeah, because it
is we're in a swamp logs and it is hotter
than hell.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Pretty warm, yeah, pretty warm.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
So maybe something to get out of the heat for
a couple of weeks. I don't know. Canada, yeah, Canada,
Alaska maybe, I mean, last couple of years, been fortunate
enough to go to the British Isles right in the summer,
right and it's a totally it's like sixty degrees and
raining every day, perfect cool, right, love it. Yeah, So
I dig that, But I mean, that's that's kind of.
(35:36):
I think the mindset. I mean, take your family, take
yourself get away, don't lose the edge that you have
gained from a training standpoint, and continue to make sure
that you're watching what you're putting in your body, because
you don't want to start backpedaling and losing ground that
you've gained throughout the off season conditioning and OTAs and
(35:59):
everything of that nature. So but you got to you
got to be able to give the mind a little
bit of a break. Well let's ask just the other way.
Let's say you had that same situation. What would be
your ideal get away? What did what did you like
to do during that month? Well, I think from a
player's standpoint, you want to be if you're going to
go somewhere, you still want to be able to work
(36:20):
out to some extent. So that would be a Seriously,
you have to, I mean you can't. You can take
three or four days and not train, but you can't
go somewhere for two weeks and not have have lifted
a weight or done some type of conditioning. So the
first thing that you think of is that where can
I go that I can still accomplish some of my
(36:42):
training goals where can I go to still meet some
of my dietary restrictions that I have, right, I mean,
so a lot of that factors into it. And there
are different places that you can go to that have
a lot of those amenities that are built in that.
Some places that are cooler, some places that are warmer.
(37:03):
But it's got to have those those things that I
talk about, the ability to train, the ability to have
the facilities to accomplish what you want, and also the
ability to watch what you're eating.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
All those have to be considered.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Did you when you played, did you just stick around
here and fish for a month? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I mean who would want to leave this place other
than heaven?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Right? Yeah, I mean the fishing here in the summertime
is just tremendous. At least where I lived at Saint
John's Revan was incredible. Sure you know so, I mean yeah,
I mean I tried to stay here. And that's the
great thing.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Back in the early days, they actually closed the old
stadium up where we trained at. They closed it up.
You didn't even have the option of working out inside.
They closed it up for a period of time. But
now they keep it open for the players.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Which is a good thing.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
You talked about all the good fishing down at your
old place. I mean I went there a couple of times.
I didn't catch a damn thing. Well, you're just not
very good fishermen. Yeah, sorry, true, yeah, operator reality, it's
very true.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
But I mean, look.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
There there there is nothing wrong with a staycation in Jacksonville,
I can tell you. But but you know, look, you
want to go see family sometimes and uh and then
mat me take a take a great trip. Man, reward
yourself for the hard work that you've done. It's all good.
Let's come back. We'll get our final thoughts in before
(38:28):
vacation begins. In about fifteen minutes. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Some good days.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
Some days were a little sloppier, and that's just that's
part of especially a new system, a lot of new guys.
Everyone's playing together kind of for the first time for
a lot of us. So overall, I thought it was
really good. I thought we learned a lot, took some
really big steps of improvement throughout OTAs And you know,
I'm proud of the guys how they worked. Everyone you know,
worked their tail off all off season, really pushed ourselves,
(39:04):
you know, there's a lot of times where this is
a period where some people can kind of take it easy,
and I felt like every day we really came out here,
you know, busted our ass and really were intentional about
what we were doing.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback with a sweet headband after practice today,
meeting with the media. Full availability at Jaguars dot com
and Jaguars YouTube. This is Jaguars Happy Hour from the
Honday Studios, the Miller Electric Center, JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.
Final show until July twenty fourth. I get the impression
that you're, you know, pointing out the headband because you're
(39:37):
jealous of the flowing locks of Trevor Lawrence. You're not wrong,
it's been a long time. You should, you should. I
didn't do the show with a bandana. Sometimes I need
a lot of things. Logs is what I need. I
used to have long hair one time. Actually, did you
really high school?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Did you have a mullet?
Speaker 3 (39:55):
No? I had like long hair, long hair. It was thick, long,
everyone was big.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, did you ever have a mullet?
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I did not do you that. I guess that would
be a reverse mullet when it's long at the top,
short on the size.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Is that what you had? One of those reverse mullets.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
No, you had a mullet, top had a kick. Yeah,
I had a strong mullet. Business in the front, party
in the back had a strong mullet. Somebody told me
one time, there's a photo of you somewhere walking out
shirtless pregame in New York. We had the big ponytail
(40:32):
hanging down like pregame warm ups. Did you used to
do that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I may have. I don't know, as might have. There's
one guy in his building that always claims that.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
That happened, and we know who that is. Perk would
be one of his nicknames. Yeah, yeah, I don't know
if there's any validity to what he's saying, but I
can say I believe him. You never know, Jack. I
was happy I were presented by dream Finders Homes Official
home of the Jacksonville Official home builder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. English.
(41:08):
Let me try it sometime.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
It's good for you.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
It is. This is the final show before the dead zone.
You want to cut the roster now or like you
want to wait till training can Here's the deal, Mini
Camp is a great time to evaluate some things because
there's no pads. I a lot of stars out there
(41:31):
right now, and I've learned I've learned, okay over the
last thirty six years, okay, of being around the NFL
that don't get overly excited about anything from mini camp
or the OTAs or anything of that nature. Even in
training camp. You know, just just slow down because the
(41:54):
pads have to come on. And then there are different
levels of achievement of achievement for players. I mean, there's
certain guys that you know that they shine through everything OTAs,
mini camp, training camp, and then the games when the
lights come on, they continue to elevate their game, and
(42:14):
there are some that just fall by the wayside because
they're not consistent enough, or they're not physical enough, or
they're not mentally tough enough. I mean, it's to me,
it's the hardest game to play in all of professional sports,
because it is it is demanding from a physical standpoint,
(42:37):
but most importantly, it's incredibly demanding from a mental standpoint.
You have to be mentally tough to play this game,
and some guys just can't do it, you know, And
some guys will have moments, but the consistency. The great
ones have a consistency about them, and then shine through
all of that. And so you want to see the
(42:59):
whole book, you know, before you start to jump to
conclusions a little bit, you know, after a couple chapters.
So and especially we haven't seen the big guys hit
each other. Ayah, nothing, you know. I mean, like, for example,
I'll give you a perfect example. Uh ninety one look
(43:19):
unblockable in this mini camp. Okay, okay, Eric, I mean
that's great, I'm excited about it. It's cool. But again, okay,
let's let's get to the regular season. And Tom Harrison
didn't look great at moments, but it's the off season OTAs, Okay,
(43:41):
what's he gonna do once we get to camp when
it starts to become real. You know. So there are
things that you think, but things that you just don't
know yet at this time of the year. And then
Liam Cohen has talked about that a little while ago.
We heard from it. Especially in the run game. You
can't run certain ideas is because it's a non contact
(44:01):
time of year. You can't even do that well. And
you'll start doing it in training camp. Well, and look,
you have a set of rules that you've got to
go buying from the coaches standpoint, and if you don't
follow those rules, then you end up getting fined heavily
and also losing maybe some other aspect of your training
(44:22):
ability in the future for violating rules that are set
out in the collective bargaining agreement. So yeah, so I'm
gonna be looking forward very much to training camp because
that's when you start to know about a lot of
guys like we have. We think, for example, the offensive
line is going to be much more competitive.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
They've brought guys in in free agency.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
They've got a couple of them undrafted, one of them drafted.
We think it's gonna be better. Well, we've got to
wait and see, you know, until the pads come on.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
What do you have?
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Fred Johnson's a giant human being? Is giant human being? Sure,
But you know what, a giant human being can't really
impose his giantness opponent.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I'm making it a word.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Giant can't do that against an opponent at this point
of their juncture of the off season. Let's see, by
the way I talked with him the other day, he's
listed at six seven three twenty six. I don't think
he's sixty seven. I think he's I think he's six'. Eight,
Really i'm just telling YOU. JP i went up to
introduce myself to him and talked with him for five
(45:31):
or ten minutes and was asking him, about you, know
the natural position that he likes and how many starts
he's had at each each. Spot And i'm just sitting
there and the person that came to mind because the
only player THAT i ever went against in THE nfl
to WHERE i was in awe of how.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Big he, was With Jonathan.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Ogdenden i'll never, forget never forget the first TIME i
ever played against against john AND i was just, like oh.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
My, god.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
This guy is. Legit he's a giant human. Being Fred
johnson's that's he's in the same. Category he's the. Second
he's the second guy That i've ever been around that
is just an absolute and the guy For philadelphia is
in the same. Category the left tackle My, Lotta Jordan,
mylatta who is the biggest human being of them, all
(46:29):
and standing around him is, like oh my, God Fred,
Johnson Jordan, mylotta and then of Course Jonathan, ogden three
biggest human beings That i've ever been around in. Football
my first one of my first years, here we played
The patriots And Vince wilfork was one of Those for,
ME i was, like oh, boy this is different, Now
(46:50):
he's just why really, massive really human. Being Sarah goose
a kind of in the same. Category and then the
nose tackle that played Alongside.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Sarah goose uh, Oh Raw Donald, blank really good football player.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
Who was the one in the nineties for The packers
who was the nose Tackle gilbert H that guy was Not.
Tony gilbert was. HUGE i can't remember his first, name But,
gilbert and he was he. Was all you would do
is just that and stand. There it's all he had to.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Do that's.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
It he was a space eater and that you weren't
running anywhere with his outstretched arms that he had that.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
COVERED i got this right. Here you just forget Like Sean, Gilbert, sean.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
That sounds, close but it's, Funny like you know on
television the players running, around but if you have the
opportunity to get close to them or on the sideline or,
whatever it's, like all these guys are. Different was. It
Sam adams who was next To Sarah goosen might have.
BEEN i think it was another just giant human being.
(47:53):
Man but for, Real Fred johnson is just a.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
GIANT i think he's.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Got he's got a, shot, Right so player out Of,
florida look watching he isn't you. Know he doesn't have
a whole lot of career starts. Now and but when
he started For philadelphia and he started at different positions for,
them he did a really good, job you. Know and That's,
look that's a really good offensive. Line and they have
a standard that they, set you, know so when you
(48:21):
join that, rank, okay it's understood we're, here you. Know
so if you're, playing you need to be here at
this level with. Us and so when you have a
room and a group like, that they demand that you
play to their. Level and that's one of the best
offensive line coaches, too exists In. Philadelphia and if you
(48:45):
if you can develop that mindset, here that would be,
outstanding would Be.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
That's the.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
GOAL i, mean, look that's the. Goal he's still going
to answer a lot of questions in training. Camp you
know who's going to be out there. First, well then
that's it's. Competitive it's going to be very competitive along
the offensive line this. Year and AND i think there's
also going to be some interesting where interesting from the
standpoint of where are guys going to find a? Home
(49:14):
you know it from you Because patrick, McCary for, example you,
know is he going to be right? Guard could he
play left right? Tackle you, know you had a couple
of guys moving in and out of, there you. Know
SO i think it's going to be an interesting. Watch
they got to be, better, THOUGH i can tell you,
that and they got to learn how to run the.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Ball.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Man the last couple of years with.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
This, OFFENSE i think that was one of the biggest
downfalls to this offense In jacksonville was the lack the
lack of ability to run the ball when he needed
to run, it and short yardage was like right at
the top of for perfect examples to what they couldn't.
DO i, mean the last two, years the third, down
(49:58):
third and short running game was. Terrible it's. Awful it
was like it felt like third and five all the.
Time AND i think the mindset was that the run
was kind of an. Afterthought it's gotta, change all, Right,
logs great off, Season enjoy your few weeks. Away we'll
talk to you in training. Camp Happy Early Father's.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
Day thank, You thank, you and tell your popsh happy.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
FATHER i think you just Did jeff logo And i'm J. P,
Shadick Joe, FORTUNE i, Oh Brent, reeber our entire. Crew
thanks to you for watching and. Listening It's Jaguars Happy.
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