Jaguars Happy Hour | OTAs Week One Review & Discussing Flag Football in the Olympics

It's a busy show as Austen Lane joins Jeff Lageman and J.P. Shadrick to discuss the first week of OTA. The crew shares their thoughts on WR Brian Thomas Jr. flying under the radar, the league's ruling on the iconic tush push and why there's no need for everyone to be in peak form prime during offseason programming. All this and more on Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Jeff Loghman Austin Lane and Studio with us OTAs underway.
The first one is open to the media on Monday.
They've had a couple since then. We'll discuss coming up

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and then the expectations coming off OTAs and some of
the highlights and clips out on social media and ustin
news from around the league. Some some minor rule changes,
the preseason schedules out for the Jaguars now officially, and
Jim Mersey passed away the owner of the Indianapolis Colts.
We'll get to all that coming up shortly on ten

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today XL Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with you,
Jeff Lagham and Austin Lane. Gentlemen, good afternoon. What's up afternoon?
And by the way, we know you missed the headline
that like today's news.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
What's up? The tush push is back? Absolutely, yeah, it
never went away.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I mean, I I how do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well, jag stopped it twice, remember right, So be better? Okay, defense,
be more stout? What do you think about that? So?

Speaker 4 (01:42):
I mean, I'm off hard the toush push because it's
a football play and I think that the teams that
voted against it are teams that can't stop it. So
you got to figure it out. Now, Jeff, you're a
defensive guy. I have an idea of how to stop.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
The tush push.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Now come along with me a little bit, and JP,
you're pretty to join in here. So you talk about
it's probably go on the gap or B gap, right.
This is a quarterback sneak, right, and then then they
push from behind. I say, we get our two biggest
guys at the nose, you know, tackle, get them in
the middle, we get our linebackers bring them down, and
we push the defensive tackles in their tush. So it's

(02:16):
almost like a what we call like a scrum, like
a ruggy scrum. Where will you take your linebackers, You
push your defensive tackles forward, and that's going to create
that penetration to stop the toush push. Noteing the NFL
right now does this? I say, you give it a truck.
We'll see now, Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
The other part of that is that all of a sudden,
you're pushing two defensive linemen. That means that's four guys
in that small space. What if they just break it?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Why? And you've got numbers they could they could could
be a reaction to that.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
But I think the official term is not a rugby
scrumka because I have been called out on using that
term many times, saying for the for the JP, you
might need to do a little research on the exact
exact wording of it. But I have been called out
about forty from time saying stop using that term. That's

(03:02):
not what it is. So anyway, but if you're the
teams that voted against it, or should I say voted
against banning the tush push, aren't you a little embarrassed?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah? I mean any team can do it.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's not like the Eagles just have like the magic
recipe where it's like, hey, we can just do it.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Any team can do the tush push.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
It's just they figured out whether it's the cadence, whether
it's just you know, the pad level like that, they've
mastered it.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Whether I mean the quarterback can squat six hundred pounds too,
that never hurts, So that hasn't hurt either, But I
mean he's been hurt and they still did it when
he obviously couldn't squat six hundred pounds. But what I'm
most proud of about that whole situation is that our team,
the Jacksonville Jaguars, did not vote to ban the tush.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Okay, they stood with some other teams and said, no,
we're not going to penalize a team for having a
very good.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Play and being good at it.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, shame on all the other teams that voted to
ban the tooch.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
It was only like two votes away.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, but two votes is all it takes.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Man, I mean, where is this energy when Tom Brady
was getting you know, when it was like third and
one fourth one Tom Brady quarterback sneak every single time,
it was like one hundred percent, like I would have
voted against Tom Brady on the quarterback sneak.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I'm going to vote against a Derrick Henry stiff farm.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Like that's not conduce some to playing defense, like ban
the stiff farm, the ban everything.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
That one. I'm tired of that. I'm tired the highlights
over and over again.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
You know that's that is one of the greatest plays
in football. I don't care which side of the fence
you you lie on, because unfortunately some of those highlight
stiff farms have been at the expense of this team,
certainly have, but I must say that they're in first
person watching it. You're sitting there going, oh my god,
did you just see that? And I just want to go,

(04:55):
oh my god, did you just see that? I wanted
to say that on a radio, but you can't.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, not our team.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
He believes that we missed so many tackles on one player.
Can you imagine it was like, you're kind of the
O office. I can't believe that we're just gonna allow
him to stiff our musk. When is somebody got to
learn knock the arm down and then get into his ban.
Derrick Henry just the whole thing, by the way, he's
a very well, a much richer man too, but he's Yeah,

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we'll get to some of these other rule changes coming up,
but OHTA is underway Monday. The first one was open
to the media. Trevor Lawrence after the practice, learning yet
another offense.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
I really like it. You know, it has a lot
of answers. You know, it's it's it's great. I mean,
it puts a lot of the players you have to
know your stuff, but.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
It gives you all the answers.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
You know, you're not I don't feel like you're stuck
in a play that's uh not set up for success.
You know, gives us a lot of answers, and uh
we changed the presentation a lot and make a lot
of things look the same. You know, there's there's a
whole lot of without going in too much detail, you know,
there's a lot of things that I like about it.
And it's definitely unlike any system that I've learned before.
So it's been cool to learn and just pick the

(06:06):
coach's brain and try to get it down as fast
as possible.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Third offense for him now in the National Football League,
and this is the time of year to get some
of the kinks and the bugs worked out. He said,
a lot of answers out of this offense. What does
that mean, Well, it means there's a lot of options.
So let's say a defense presents you with a defense
A okay, but the play that you have doesn't match that.

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You've got to play dialed up for defense B. Well,
a lot of times it gives you as a quarterback
the flexibility to change the play that's going to give
you the best play for that defense A. And I
think that's what he's referring to it. And I call
that the Peyton Manning effect. Right, Peyton Manning comes to
the line of scrimmage and he's like, oh maha, omaha,

(06:52):
and he's changing the play three different times based on
what the defensive look is, and it's going to give
him the best chance to be in the best play.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
I mean, as someone who's played against Peyton Manning many times,
like he was a cerebral assassin with how he could
diagnose things, see the coverages.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And then call out of them.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
When I expecting Trevor Lawrence right now to be in
a new offense and be the next Peyton Manning, but
I think giving him options giving him choices where okay,
maybe that the A choice is covered, well, here's the
B choice. B choice is taken away, here's the C choice.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I also like the fact that he is in total
command at this early stage, you know, because I was
there practice on Monday. I guess it was the first
one that was opened up. Was out there yesterday. He
appears to be in total command of the offense. You
know how sometimes when you're in OTA's, especially when it's
a new coach and it's a new system, it's like.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Wait a minute, woo, who bo.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
You didn't even get to the line of scrimmage because
you're not lining up right, the quarterback doesn't have the
formation set. You didn't have really any of that on
the first day, which is impressive to me, and it
shows that Trevor has been working is behind off leading
up to the first OTA because there's nothing that's more
frustrating than to get to practices and the quarterbacks not

(08:05):
quite ready.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
To run it correct. You know, you know what I
mean when it comes to that.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Look, I'm gonna tell you this, he didn't have a
great day on the first day of practice, Okay, but
you know, when you're at the first day of practice. Look,
it's you're not trying to win football games on the
first practice day. There's plenty of days to be better
in which I understand. From what I understand, he was
better on Tuesday and then yesterday, which was kind of
glorified walk through.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
He looked great to me. That's what it is. Yeah,
it is what it is, you know.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
And I think like, if you expect the offense to
come out there day one and get it all together,
then something's wrong. Then then Liam Cohen's offense is way
too simplistic, right. I'd rather see them come out there,
have the defense win a little bit, have Trevor get
his bearings and learn from it. Like that's what this
is all about. It's a learning experience. Like you're not
trying to, you know, be super Bowl bound right now.
You're trying to learn from mistakes and get better.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's where the social media aspect play, right, And we're
on Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatter Jeff agobon Austin Lane.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Any clip that goes on social media.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
These days, yeah, is dissected up and down, left and right.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh is the route crisp enough? Why is the.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Football on the ground oh, he threw an interception. This
didn't exist twenty five years ago. This kind of coverage
of OTA's thirty years well, right, look just a different animal.
The media and social media always has this offensive slant. Okay,
what's wrong with a defensive slant? Hey, look, great job
of disrupting the timing by the defense.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Great job by.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
The way, Anthony Campanilli's defense, getting your hands on the ball.
Why don't we give a little pad on the back
of the defense on the first day, Because you know what,
defense is always expected to be better early in training camp,
early in the off season training activities, because playing defense
is athleticism. It's not Timing and consistency and repetition. Those

(09:57):
are all offensive things. Now, defense does require some that
to be at their best, but typically always with the
very beginning of camp or mini camp or anything else,
the defense is a little bit of him.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
So I'm gonna tell you a quick story.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
So I've been training MMA down in South Florida and
before so, I'm in a certain group with like a
bunch of bigger guys.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
The smaller guys went before us.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
When we got on the mats, a guy came up
to me, he's like, hey, he's playing with the Jaguars
right to go, Yeah, what's up man?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
He's like, what's up with Travis Hunter?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Man?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
You see that clip? And I didn't see it at
the time, and I go, what are you talking about?
He's like, man, he's having a rough day at camp.
I go, okay, so I train and everything. A couple
hours later, I go check it out and it's one route.
It's one route that gets overthrown or whatever. And the
media and once again I say media on a national level.
And when I say media, it's in quotations because everyone's

(10:42):
an expert now on Twitter. But people wanted to repost
it and say, man, these these routes aren't looking that crisp,
you know, he's not looking like he's gonna be a
first round pick. And it's baffling to me just how
polarizing Travis Hunter is already. And it really reminds me
of like when Tim Tebow was in Jacksonville. Everybody want
to nitpick every single little thing that he did. Travis
Hunter is kind of the same way right now. And listen,

(11:05):
you can sit here and break down one route and
say was it good or not. I remember Jamar Chase
his rookie year had had a big problem with drop balls,
and I remember I think it was like the second
or third preseason game. I want to see you had
like two or three drop balls in that game. Everyone's
getting ready to write Jamar Chase off, Well how did
that pan out?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Right?

Speaker 4 (11:22):
So we can't take one clip, one route ran and say, oh,
I'm not sure about that pick anymore. Just just enjoy
the show, Let's see what happens, and let's go on
from there.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Take take notes of all the people that want to
have that opinion about Travis Hunter. Take notes on Oh yeah,
you know what, those receipts are going to come back
to haunt every person that said anything about Travis Hunter,
because I'm just gonna tell you right now, watching that
guy he is. He is gifted beyond anybody that I've
ever watched.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm talking.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm talking like I'm fifty seven years old, Okay, I've
been in this NFL game for that old man am
Okay when i was twenty one years old, and I'm
here to tell you this is one of the greatest
athletes I've ever seen I've ever laid eyes on. I'm
talking this guy's gifted, beyond beyond gifted, you know who,
probably and I haven't talked to him yet this offseason.

(12:14):
Likes this attention on Travis Hunter and everything that's going
on in this offseason.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Probably Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
He's kind of flying under the radar a little bit
as much as a guy like that can. And you
know he's sure to take the next step too if
there's at tension on some of these other guys, and
all of a sudden, Brian.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Thomas has a great year under his belt already. Austin.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, I mean, whether you're a fantasy football fan or
a Jaguars fan, like you gotta like what Brian Thomas
Junior is gonna be bringing the table, right because this
is a guy who was pretty much top five last
year in a lot of categories at receiving, and all
of a sudden you draft Travis Hunter, and do I
dare say he's almost forgotten about a little bit. Like
when I'm on social media, when I'm on Twitter, no
one's talking about Brian Thomas Junior, And like how he

(12:56):
looks at OTA's or how he looks like it's all
about Okay, rookie camp its Hunt, everything like that. I
think this is going to help Brian Thomas Junior. I
think going under the radar like he's been going out.
Keep in mind, defensive coordinators got a game play. Like
the film speaks for itself, right, But from our perspective,
I just think it's refreshing to know, like we got
a lot of eyes on us right now because of

(13:16):
Travis Hunter.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And it's also refreshed.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
You know, you have a top tier wide receiver already
in Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I think that if Brian Thomas Junior has the same
numbers that he had last year, I think it's a
bigger year than he had last year, you know, because
you remember last year, I mean there was a lot
of injuries, a lot of the wide receiving group was out.
Brian was able to play different positions. He became almost
the entire focal point of the offense. He became, in fact,

(13:44):
the offense right.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
With a backup quarterback a lot of that time too. Exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, So this year, you add Travis Hunter, you add
Diami Brown, you have Parker Washington also.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh by the way, so.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Can Brian repeat the kind of numbers that he had
last year? If he does this offense is soaring at
a level that it hasn't soared at in years, going
way way way back to the early days, because there's
gonna be other players that the ball is going to
go to, and also a position group that the ball
is going to go to that it hasn't gone to

(14:18):
in quite some time at the rate that it should
be at, which is running backs.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Let's run the ball a little bit.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, But that's the question though, jeff is Yeah,
you have the running game that's probably gonna be implemented,
but what is this offense going to look? Like? Do
you need Brian Thomas Junior to have a repeat right,
Because like for every Aj Brown, there's a DeVante Smith,
for every Justin Jefferson, there's an Addison. So like, do
you need Brian Thomas Junior to replicate what he did
last year or would you rather see him maybe get

(14:45):
a little less targets, give some more to Chavis Hunter
and other players as well.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
I want to see the same numbers but on less targets.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I mean on similar numbers on less targets because last
year there was a little force feeding going on. Of course, okay,
and the and the play the quarterback wasn't exactly where
I think Trevor can be at. If you have better
play at the quarterback position, better running game to take
some of the pressure and attention off of the passing game,

(15:16):
I think your passing numbers can be better. But again,
Brian's numbers may not be right at where they were
at last year, but it could be viewed as a
better year if the numbers are maybe slightly off just
because the ball is going to get spread around a
little bit, I mean, as it should be. It means
the offense is performing at a higher level. And theory
all around him, well, that's what you hope for. Because

(15:40):
here's the reality. There's not many justin Jefferson's and there's
not many Jamar Chases. There's really not. I mean, that's
a that's a rarity. And then here's the other thing.
What happens if twelve turns into one of those guys too? Yeah,
I mean, give me, give me the top duo in

(16:00):
the NFL, in the wide receiver room, top duos, I mean,
I think just named a couple.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I think Jamar Chase T Higgins is.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Okay, right one anybody else and the Vikings.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Vikings got Addison's uh DeVante Smith, I think, and A. J.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Brown is pretty said that's good.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
I mean, if you want to go with the healthy
quarterback Tyreek kill Jelen Waddle.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, how about the Cowboys?

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Now, I still got to see it from George Pickens.
But once again, I think, if you have a good.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Quarterback determined, Pickens has his issues, man, I mean, pickens
issues aren't going to just evaporate because he goes to
Dallas Cowboys. Pickens Pickens was with one of the greatest
coaches in the history of the.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Game in the National Football League. And okay, and if
you can't walk.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
The line in Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin, you think Dallas
is going to cure any of his problems. In fact,
Dallas is going to exacerbate eight any of his problems.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
It's wild how Pittsburgh has lost someone like their great
like think of like Bell back in the day because
he had held out for money, right and then Bell
goes to what New York Le'Veon Bell? Then you think
of a guy like Antonio Brown, who had his best
years in Pittsburgh, goes.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Around the league a little bit to Tampa.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
You know, he had his stint with I think it
was it Oakland at the time, was a Vegas Oakland?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I think it was the Raiders Vegas or whatever it was.
But like didn't have his best years. Now, yeah, putting ahead,
we'll come back in a moment and we'll.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Get into the preseason schedules, come out dates and times.
Question is, are they gonna play any in the preseason?
You know, you don't know what Liam Cone's mindset is.
Don't you know They're gonna practice with one of the teams.
You know that and much more. When we return on
to Excel Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube, it's Jaguars

(17:54):
Happy out.

Speaker 6 (18:06):
Are we gonna catch every ball and throw every ball
out here in the first day at phase three? I
would assume not, But more in terms of the operation
the communication, are we understanding what we're trying to get
accomplished out of the calls? It's a learning phase, not
necessarily a competitive phase. And do you want to be cleaner?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (18:25):
Do you want it to look perfect, yes, we all do.
That's just not the reality at this phase this time,
in this phase.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Liam Cohen gets it about OTAs Welcome back. It's Jaguars
Happy Hour and Jack's Football is presented by Fresh from Florida.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's always in season. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logovan. Austin
Lane in with us again.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
This week We're at Honday Studios, the Miller Electric Center,
ten todexl, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, OTA period or
number Phase number three or no off season program Phase
three Organized team activities that's proper correct. And then in
a couple of weeks it's mandatory Mini Camp, Yeah, which

(19:06):
is around the tenth, eleventh, twelfth of June.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
It was like you're reading the calendar. That's good.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm glad something's working up there. All over after that,
then it's vacation time.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Now it's everything kind of builds up to the to
the Mini camp, and it will be interesting to see
kind of how the approach is this year to Mini camp.
In the last couple of years, the Mini camp was
kind of like a canceled event. Yeah, Like rookies and
guys who needed extra work would be yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
And so if.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
The attendance of the OTAs and the other season was
deemed to be good enough, gotcha. The reward I think
in the first year with a new coach and kind
of the new structure of the organization, when you're trying
to get everybody on the bus, so to speak, with
the program, I think the approach will be a little
bit different this year, and mini camp will be a

(20:01):
mini camp. Now, what will it be as far as
practice and everything else, you know, that's probably to be determined.
But uh, based upon what happens between now and that,
I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
And without the risk is sounding too old school here,
like I think you should go through mini camp. I
think you should do mini camp, you know, whether it's
a first year coach or a second year coach, whatever
the case may be, just because I think the ota
is it can be a little more you know, casual,
and if you want to, you know, cut guys out early,
so be it. But that mini camp, to me, it's
really the first time you can kind of build that camaraderie,
kind of build that mentality a little bit. And let's

(20:34):
be honest here, you brought in a brand new regime
with a brand new mindset. It's important to get those
basic building traits in right now and not when training
camp actually starts.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Here in what July. It is I think part of that.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
You know what also you're referring to is building culture, right,
part of building culture and hard work, you know, and
and commitment.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
So you love ball. If you love ball, here's not
a problem.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
And that's a pretty pretty significant break between Mini camp
and then time training camp is scheduled to be open,
you know, so take advantage of it while you can.
Preseason schedule announced today. All three of the preseason games.
The dates and times. Week one Saturday, August ninth, Jaguars
at home against the Steelers seven pm on Fox thirty TV.

(21:23):
Sunday August seventeenth at the New Orleans Saints one pm
Eastern Time on a Sunday on CBS forty seven to
twelve noon locals, So get.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
In bed early in New Orleans logs that night.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Saturday, August twenty third, preseason Week three at Miami seven
pm kick a Saturday night on Fox thirty. And as
you reference, just before our time out logs, the Jaguars
will have a joint practice with the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
And I like that.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I think that's really it's always good because you know,
after kind of going against the same guys every day
in training camp, it gets a little bit old, you know,
and on top of that, you want to go against
a different system. You also want to go against a
different body type and a different type of player to
kind of get your game rounded in the form for
the regular season.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Well, I'm excited for this Jaguars defense to to go
against some of those Dolphins wide receivers, right, like a
Tyreek kill and Joe and Waddle, Like, what's gonna look
like if Chatli's hunters on Tyreek Kilper a little bit
or Jaylen Waddle Like, let's see what the young guys
got for this. Yeah, I love that absolutely.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
And we've seen it over the years. You know.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Twenty seventeen Jaguars went to New England for the joint
practices and got an eye full of how Tom Brady
goes about his business. That some of the greatest I
gotta say this, that was.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
One you were there, That's incredible.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
That was one of the greatest experiences Austin that I've
ever had in my professional broadcasting career. Really was watching
the Jaguars practice with the New England Patriots and watching
how a Bill Belichick training camp Tom Brady training camp
was operated. I've never seeing a more organized training camp

(23:04):
like for example, special teams they go to a special
teams period. Yeah, and the special teams coach Joe Judge
I think it was at that time, Sure, who became
a head coach soon after, would call out, okay, give
me the number two kickoff. Bam, Eleven guys were there. Yeah,
you know, there was like no trying to grab a
guy from that. Forgot about that. He was on the

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number two kickoff exactly where they had to be when
they had to be, and nobody missed their assignment.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Just let me ask you this because I've had a
bunch of friends, you know that were teammates of Peyton
Manning and from a Peyton Manning training camp.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
He kind of ran everything like he.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Was so intelligent where it was like, hey, we're gonna
run these plays right here. If you don't do them, ight,
let's run him again. When you had that Patriots camp,
was it more of the Bill Belichick ran camp or
did Tom Brady kind of have a voice too and
say we need to do these things.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I think it was both.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You know, overall, the organizational part of it was Belichick, sure,
but it was really interesting watching Tom Brady in the
offense because Tom Brady wasn't gonna work but only with
a certain certain, certain number of players, and there was
no substituting guys that he didn't want on the field
with them.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
He controlled all of that.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
And so for example, like you see in training camp,
you see Trevor might work with you know, an undrafted
rookie maybe for a rep or too. Tom Brady wasn't
not have any of that. He wasn't gonna waste his
rep with a guy that he wasn't gonna throw to
during the regular the nuances.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Okay, he controlled all of that.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, okay, coaches weren't going, hey, give me you, you
and you.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
No, Tom was going let's go boys.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, that was pretty fascinating. And then of course later
that you're back in Foxborough and what he did after practice,
Remember what Tom Brady was doing after practice with the
legs and all that kind of extra work that he
was doing physically. I mean it was impressive, man, it
was that was an zero carbs.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I'm believable, Wow, how we could do all that was
zero carbs. You know, he's had the guy in the carbs, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I mean, any.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Energy gotta have it, you get carves from meat, don't you.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Maybe a little bit, I don't know. Don't look at me.
I need a lot of carbs. But I don't know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I mean, you would know you're the one that's training
right now. Oh and I use carbs. I use a
lot of cars from my understanding, I guess Tom Brad doesn't.
Isn't a big carb guy. Yeah, he's kind of skinny. Yes,
you know, JP is a carb king. We're training for
different things, right And.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Here's the one thing.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, look, how can you not have a little
bit of linguini, white clam hosta preach, you know, or something.
Treat yourself a little bit to do it every day season?
But I mean kind of ice cream I think was
on the menu for him. He was talking about one time.
I remember every week when I used to when we
when I was training, you know, seriously, when I was playing,

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I think it.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Was like once a week I used to go to
fud Ruckers, Okay, place to come on.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
One day, just give me one meal during the week
where you can have a little treat, maybe even a
little ice cream afterwards, milkshake or something like that, you know,
I mean, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Kind of a reward. Can't live it all the time
he got to you.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I mean, listen, I showed a locking with Greg Jones,
who was built like a gi Joe. Oh my, and
that dude lived off a grilled chicken in broccoli. I
don't know how he did it. And every single lunch,
every single dinner, all I see him, he was his
grilled chicken and broccoli. And hey, it worked out because
he had the physique. But man, there was two guys that.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I remember in covering this game as a player and
then as a broadcaster. The first one that I ever
came across who was just physically gifted was an offensive
tackle that we acquired in New York from the Kansas
City Chiefs, and name it was IRV Eatman. IRV Eatman
was six foot five and a half three hundred and
ten pounds and didn't even try to be and he

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couldn't lift weights in the off season because he just
got too big. Greg Jones was kind of along those
lines too. I mean, just a guy that if he
went to the weight room and he started lifting weights
on a Monday, by Friday, he gained one inch in
his bicycle.

Speaker 6 (27:12):
Way.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, and if about Greg Jones. There was one guy
I ever played, I shared a locker room with I
would never want to fight.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, and that was Beg Jones. He never never wanted
to mess with Greg Jones. Man, he's the guy I'm
picking in a in an alley fight. Absolutely so. The
one guy that I would never want to get in
a tangle with that I ever played with was Mo Lewis,
linebacker from Georgia. Moe's a linebacker with the Jets. And
there was a guy that we had actually acquired from
the Canadian Football League one year and thought he was

(27:39):
everything because he had all these sacks with the Canadian
Football League. And he ran his mouth to Moe in
the locker room one time, and all of a sudden
there was a tussle because this guy, I think his
name was Danny. Danny ran his mouth to Mo. We
all knew you didn't mess with Mo. Yeah, Moe's martial
arts guy. Yeah to hear, Mo never wore socks a

(28:03):
day in his football life. Country huh, country barefoot, barefoot
in the shoe and then take the sock from the
low ankle up. Okay and Mo, next thing, you know,
when Danny ran his lip all sudden, there was a bang,
bang bang, and next thing you know, Danny is stuffed
in a locker begging for Moe to stop, and everybody

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else is just sitting there, going.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
We told you, we told you. We'll come back in
a moment.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
And hey, some of the rules changes that were voted
in by league ownership this week, including some players that
could be playing for.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Their country here in a couple of years. We're back
at the moment a Seguars happy hour.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
I got a lot of juice, Like he can he
can run all day, a lot of energy.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Good energy, always dapping guys up, just bringing juice every day.
And like I said, high mode or can just go.
It's like a kid just runs around all day and
he doesn't get tired. It seems like, so you can't
have enough of that. And then as far as just talent,
I mean kind of speaks for his self. Ball skills,
run after the catch, he's very explosive. He just didn't realize
how exupposed to he was in and out of cuts.
You know, he's impressive to watch, and we've gotten to

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connect a couple times.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's on.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
I'm gonna keep getting better and better you know, we've
only worked together for a couple of days now, so
we got some time to really dial in on the details.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, discussing his new weapon, Travis Hunter,
wide receiver and defensive back for the Jags. The number
two overall pick and welcome back is Jaguars Happy Hour.
JP Shadick, Jeff Logam and Austin Lane Busy scheduled Daily's
Place coming up. Kodak Black replacing Tee Pain May thirty. First,
we're closing in nine days away from Matt Sticks, Kevin Cronin,

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Don Felder, June's Second Old Dominion June sixth a little
later in the summer. Two nights, not one, but two nights,
shouldn't I have twain?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I like it. I'm gonna have to go to one
of those or two of those.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
It brings me back to like my Thanksgiving days watching
like the halftime shows. Yes, I felt like she would
always perform on those things, that's right, And then then
my grand would be like, cover your eyes a little bit, awesome, Yeah,
we're good, I can handle it.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Did you make a call yet for the bestselling Yeah?
We need to.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
We need to work on that all right, I'm in
if you get the couch. I'm in dailyesplace dot com
for tickets and show information throughout the summer. She puts
on a good show too, or she's outstanding. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's why. That's why people are selling it for two nights.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
That makes sense, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
I mean there are certain people that put on a
really good show, and it was the one the one
country artist that one of the greatest live entertainers of
all time Brooks, thank you, I got you, I got it.
Just a minute, start naming names. I gotta go through
a lot of files back there, you know to retrieve names.

(31:02):
You know, the older you get, the more files you
have will take you a little longer to retrieve than things.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Uh, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
But he put supposedly puts on one hell of a show,
and Shannai Twain is like the female version of him.
I've heard.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I believe that. Yeah, at the same time frame, Yeah,
it makes sense. Yeah. League owners met this week. A
lot of voting going on, and one of the items
that they.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Have allowed is to permit players to play in flag
football competition in the twenty twenty eight Olympic Games in
Los Angeles. The flag football competition will consist of six
men's teams and six women's teams, ten players per team.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
The game itself is five on five.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
NFL player participation with their country's national flag football teams
will begin with a tryout or qualification process in advance
of the competition. It'll be held in the Soccer Stadium
next to the LA Coliseum. One player per NFL team
maximum plus the designated a national player can compete for
their home country as well.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
So the question I have, I think it's.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Probably an easy answer. Which Jaguars player would be the
best candidate for this.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
First?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I mean I think it's I'm going Travis Hunter because
if it's flag football, yeah, play offense and defense, Travis
Hunter is fair.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
I don't think there's any doubts.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah it's Travis yep. Yeah, I mean practice three times. Well,
it's no, I get that.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
But think about what flag football is, you know, and look,
let me pull out my Al Bundy impression here, which one.
I used to play Polk County High School, Okay, and
you know my glory days Okay, I used to actually
be a flag football coach. Flag football is not a
physical game. Okay, so the big physical part is not involved.

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So what Trevor just got done talking about a guy
that never gets tired, a guy that's special coming in
and out of his breaks, that's got great hands, great ball,
all skills. He's going to be one of the most
recognizable athletes. I think immediately once he stepped on to
the field to play flag football. I think it makes

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sense to be Travis. I mean, and you're right two way,
then it's a no brainer.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yep, who would be two? Is the question? Give me,
give me a great question.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
I mean, because that the number one is a slam
dunk in my mind.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
If you want to be elusive and all that. I mean,
Parker Washington right on offense? Okay, sure that one. Maybe maybe,
I don't know, what do you think alsin?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
I mean, it's secause I'm trying to think who can
play offensive defense? Because is this how it's gonna work?
Like you can play both?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Have ten players five on the field.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
Okay, so you can have some platoon stuff. You can't
have some specialization you could Okay, you could? You like
to have somebody that can play if you got two
for the price.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Of one, Yeah, Okay, come.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
On then I I lean towards Parker Washington in terms
of like the wiggle and the shake, because like I
can say Brian Thomas Junior, but like, is that straight
away speed is that gonna?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
The flag football game is completely different. And what I'm
curious about is like we don't really know this, but
I know it's out there. I've seen it on like
ESPN ten, like at midnight, like there is like Professional
Flake Football League.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
No, I mean it was something like that, but it
was how many did they have anyway back in the day.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
It was a few.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
And if this is super late at night, but like
they have Professional Flake Football League. So my question is,
like are some of those players gonna miss out? I'm
making that Olympic roster, gonna have something to say about
these NFL guys coming in and kind of taking.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Their sport away. I'm taking BTJ. I'm gonna take Brian,
you know. I mean the ability to his deep speed
ability is something that would have to be contented with,
and his length I think is a defender. I think
would be fishing. I think Brian's is a is a

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great athlete. I'm talking a great athlete, all right, here's
a question. Then who's the quarterback. You don't have to
be super team for the US, you don't have to
be super elusive to think there's any doubt it's Patrick
Mahomes because he.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Can throw the ball any which way you want.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
But then do you like Lamar Jackson just in terms
of shiftiness and being able to run though too. I mean,
he's got he's got the arm capabilities, I would think,
But I mean, do you want the guy that can
throw it to a guy like Travis Hunter and Brian
Thomas Jr. Do you want a guy that can I mean,

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that's a great debate. It's a great debate because you're right,
I mean, the leg threat in flag football, then you
would sit there and go, okay, Lamar. But I think
that it comes down to Lamar and Patrick. I don't
think anybody else would even be now if we're turning
back the clock. I take Michael Vick ol oh, yeah,

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in his prime and his prime.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
I mean, look, I take Michael Vick.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I take Lamarro or Michael Vick any day of the week.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I know, I'm just trying to get the fly it
improved and better. Michael Vick.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
In my mind, the only other guy I think that
would be under consideration probably Josh Allen, Right, I mean
I don't see anybody else.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
I mean, he's got the arm talent for sure, and
the grand the guy can run for sure. But like
I think Josh Allen, I don't see shiftiness with Josh.
Like I think the name of the game in flake football.
This is coming from somebody who hasn't played flake football
and I don't know twenty years, but I feel like
the name of the game is like shiftiness and being
able to wiggle.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Can you imagine, you know, because all these guys that
played flag football professionally, now we're talking about, Oh, we
can't have these NFL guys coming in. They're not as
good as us. They don't do it. They've never seen
anybody like Lamar Jackson or Travis Hunter or Tyreek Hill
run out of them or Tyreek Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
They think they know. They don't know. These guys are
still working other jobs as well.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
They don't you know, you know, they don't support themselves
in their play football fantasies.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
And meanwhile, you got, you know, Lamar Jackson getting paid
a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
This is a different planet.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I played intermural flag football in Alabama. Okay, I was.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
We were a terrible team offensive lineman sometimes and it
was pillized so much from my big mouth and talking
to the refs.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Now it didn't go well. I lasted one season. Imagine
that I wasn't asked.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Back, so JP obviously Alabama is very rich football tradition.
Is that the same thing an intermural? Like did you
have to like make the roster?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Did you have to? It was a trial?

Speaker 4 (37:41):
We were terrible, okay, we were just a bad team
playing for pride then more than anything.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, okay, just to run around.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
And get a work out in the question I think
that's going to be interesting to me is are you
going to be allowed to protect anybody as a team?

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, who are the guys that you're That's all good question,
you know what I mean? I mean, if what is
the selection process? Let's say an organization you know, or
or each NFL team may be allowed to protect one
player to keep them from being picked for the flag.
I mean, because look, if you're Kansas City, do you
really want and if you're Baltimore, do you want your

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quarterback risking? I mean, you're you're paying these guys sixty
dollars a year. Are you wanting to put them or
them at risk? And what happens with if in the
event there is an injury.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Oh not, if there's an injury, shut it all down.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
Then if there's one injury, I feel like every NFL
team will go Nope, our guys are done playing.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
But will they give the team? You know, going back
to the first years of free agency, it was called
Plan B and you are allowed to protect certain guys
uh or expose certain guys for the free agent period
and then you could protect guys. Obviously, with the franchise
tag and the transition tag, are you gonna have the
ability to do something like that to where you can say, hey, look,

(39:06):
this guy to our franchise is everything. We don't want
to expose him to flag football.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
We don't care. You can't take him. Yeah, it wouldn't
be a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Just if you're the owner of an NFL team, would
you want to have that ability?

Speaker 4 (39:24):
I think if I'm an owner, I would yeah. But
if I'm a player and your chance to represent your
country on the biggest stage ever, if an owner tells
me no, I can't do that, I'm gonna feel a
certain type of way about that.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I think it's gonna it's gonna be interesting to see
how this all works out.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Ye, I think it's gonna I like it, I trust me.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I like the idea of NFL players being involved in
Olympic flag football.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
We'll see what this, what happens with this moving ahead.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
But there were a couple other changes as well, the
NFL approving on side kicks.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
In any quarter. Now you have to declare it, but
now you can do it in any quarter. And I believe.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, the onside kick will now be from the thirty
four yard line, not to thirty five, so nine yards.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Away from the opposition. That brings a little bit closer.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
We're talking about changing the alignment to of some of
the some of the players on the onside kick. I
think there was some discussion about that to make it
a greater possibility of an onside kick being successful. Don't
see that here, Okay, I don't know if they there
was talk of that.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
The Lions playoff reseating proposal was tabled at the last minute,
Thank goodness.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Goodell's in favor of that, and I don't quite get that,
you know, when I see Roger in London this year
because I see him every year and have a conversations
telling him, I'm gonna ask him, I would like to
know why he's so so in favor of kind of
eliminating the importance of division championships, you know. And they

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seem to think, because what they're talking about seating is
that let's say you have a team and another division
other than the Jaguars, and their teams better than the Jaguars,
that they would be seated higher than the Jaguars, and
they weren't a division winner, and the Jaguars were sure.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
But my see, and actually I agree with Roger Goodell
a little bit here because if you win your division,
that means you get an automatic ticket to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Like that's a reward.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
But I have a hard time justifying a team that
has a losing record that they get rewarded to host
a home playoff game.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I don't think that's right. Well, they won the division.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
I think they won the division, but they stop a
losing record. They won the division, so then they go
to the playoffs, get game.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Division.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Now you get to go to the playoffs, congratulations, But
you can't host the home game if you have a
losing record.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Why not you want the division you go to the playoffs.
Not my team's fault. The rest of the division sucks.
I hear, it's not my fault.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Where you know seven and nine or whatever won the division.
Keep going. I liked it. I mean, come on, man,
keep going. Division titles matter.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
The division titles do matter, and that's why you're going
to the playoffs. If we're going to rank teams with records,
because the record does, right, the better team with the
better record should be able to host a home game, then.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Win the division. Sorry, the Lions are better than the Viking.
The argument, don't lose win okay.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
The argument is what the people that are in favor
of having seeding be more about record less about division
championships is that it would be more compelling football at
the end of the year. I don't necessarily agree with that,
because winning the division and not winning the division is
compelling football, and seeding is still at stake, regardless of

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whether or not you're going to be advancing as the
four seed because you didn't win the division or did
win the division, or anything of that nature. But I
like division importance just because it's been that way forever. Sure,
it's tradition, and I believe that tradition means something in
this game.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Well it did, and they they outlawed the kick. I mean, listen,
tradition sounds great and everything, but they're constantly changing all
the rules. And I think if we talk about in
terms of the record, right and in terms of who's
better seated, I think it's more incentive to play guys
the entire season then, because we see too many times
where there's two games left, the game left, and team
want to sit players because why, it's already set in stone.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
We're good, we want the division, We're gonna get a
home game. We're all good.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Now what happens if you say, you know what, just
because we want a division in a bad division, doesn't
mean we get a home playoff game.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
So we still have something to play for. That's what
it's all about.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I don't want to tune into whatever week seventeen, week
eighteen and see guys sit out where it's like a
preseason game.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I want to see him play through. If we have
losing record and getting the playoffs anyway, what are they
playing for. If you have a losing record and you
want your division, you're still getting in, right, but the
team that doesn't right behind them.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
But okay, say you had like two seven win teams
right fighting for a division and like maybe like there's
like a tie break already, like they're gonna sit out.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, probably, Yeah, I don't want to Yeah, I would
sit him too. Yeah. It's a great argument.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
I mean, and I look, I don't want to say
I can go either way on this because I don't
because again, I like the tradition of the division. But
I understand your point and that the better the team
should get a reward for being a better team. Let's
come back in a moment. Jim Mercey passed away owner
of the Indianapolis Colts. We'll get to that and our
final thoughts when we return on ten TENEXXL Jaguars dot Com,
Jaguars YouTube, it's Jaguars Happy Hour.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
I actually thought they they did some really good things today.
I thought, just from a communications standpoint, punching the ball out,
doing it in the right way though, right, we had
a couple guys just trying to be intentional about getting
the ball out and getting their hands on the football.
Something that we're actively trying to be intentional about. This
whole offseason, and I thought the defensive staff has done

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a great job of communicating that in the meeting settings.
Bringing it out to the practice field, I thought that
they did a nice job kind of setting a line
of scrimmage, playing with length on the D line, and
you know, the ball was out. I mean, the ball
was on the ground too many times for us offensively,
but hey, on the flip side of it, that's the
first time as a head coach you actually kind of
have to be very neutral in those moments where I'm

(45:14):
kind of ticked off that the ball is on the
ground from an offensive standpoint, But ultimately, man defense did
a nice job of getting the ball out today for us.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, after Monday's organized team activities
practiced Welcome Back Final Moments of Jaguars Happy Hour presented
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Speaker 2 (45:34):
Sweet Sunglasses by Liam Cohen. By the way, too, I'm
not mad at those good choices, no, but just a.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Real quick comment on what he's talking about about the
defense forcing the ball. Well, for some takeaways there, if
you go back and you remember the traits of the
green Bay Packers defense. Okay, last year it was one
of the most well coached, fundamentally sound football defense in

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the National Football League. And they were also really good
at taking the ball away. If that's what Anthony Campanelli
can bring to this Jaguars defense after the debacle that
happened last year here, I can't wait to see him
play because Green Bay they never gave you a crack
to where they would show you any kind of deficiency

(46:23):
in their defense when you watch the film on them,
they were just solid, every single play, communicated, always on
the same page. And I can't wait to see this
defense kind of evolve.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I think when you talk about that Green Bay defense,
you talk about and this is one of the most
cliche things. I'm sure heard it many times before, Jeff,
but it's ben don't break right and very rarely did
I ever watch a lot of Packers games, and I
saw a lot of explosive plays. Well, how many explosive
plays did you see last year against this Jaguars defense,
whether it was in the run game or the past
NFL high Yeah, NFL high exactly. So that needs to

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be brought down by a bunch if you want to
have a chance to win football games. I think you
bring that game Bay philosophy over here, you have a chance.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Jim Ursay passed away yesterday at the age of sixty five,
the owner of the Indianapolis Colts, of course, the son
of the legendary owner of the Baltimore Colts. They moved
the franchise to Indianapolis. Jim Irsay started as a ball
boy back in the old days and stayed with the organization.
Certainly was the VP and GM in the late eighties

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and into the nineties, and then took over his owner
when his father passed away in nineteen ninety seven. They've
seen really high success, certainly with the franchise in Indianapolis,
with the Super Bowl Championship, the franchise quarterbacks plural in
his time there, a new stadium, Lucas Oil Stadium. There
were moments of issues for Jim Irsay in his personal

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life as well, but passed away in his sleep yesterday
afternoon at the age of sixty five.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Locks.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Yeah, and it was interesting reading all the different stories
from different people that worked within that organization. And he
was eccentric, very centric, had his flaws, like you said,
and his flaws were many and sometimes at the forefront
of people's minds when sometimes he hit the front page headlines.

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But you know, you read the stories from Peyton Manning
to Tony Dungee to the equipment guys, etc. How caring
and giving that he was truly impressive. And one of
the moments that I really appreciated out of him was
some of the honest moments that he had when he
was willing to speak out on certain things when other

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owners were not as likely to speak out. And I
appreciated his honesty in particularly going back to the Daniel
Snyder thing. I thought that was a big thing, and
a lot of people looked at that as like.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Ah, you got to keep quiet.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I'm like, no, he's got to be honest, and if
that's what you believe, speak your mind.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
And he did. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
I mean, I think it's one of the bittersweet facts
of life that when somebody passes away, you find out
how amazing they are.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Right, And I didn't really know who Jim Mersay was.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I mean, reading the headlines and everything, but hearing all
these stories of how he gave back to the community
and how much he cared about that city of Indianapolis. Yeah,
he's obviously gonna be missed there and everything, and then
to kind of, you know, echo off what Jeff was saying.
I mean, he was one of the very first voices
to speak up over Dan Snyder. And I always feel like,
you know, when you when you become a billionaire, you

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almost have to act a certain way, right, You're almost
like in this fraternity where you gotta gotta do things
a certain way by the book. And I feel like
Jim Mersay didn't do that. I feel like Jim Mersay
was more of like the every day man where yeah,
he got a billion dollars, but he's still going to
do his thing, whether that's talking about music and celebrating
all the guitars that he had or making crazy viral
videos like that dude marched to the beat of his

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own drum, and more power.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
To him for doing that.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
And he has this music collection as well of instruments
that actually toured the country with it and from all
the like two hundred guitars and Beatles, memorabilia and all
these things that he collected as a pastor. He spent
a lot of mone honey on a lot of that stuff.
It'll be interesting to see the direction of the franchise,
you know, because we all have had some experience, probably

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with inheritance.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Tax and everything else. You've got three daughters. What will
be the future of the franchise, We don't know. We
will find out. Austin will see you soon. I'll see
you guys soon. See when I see a couple of weeks,
a couple of weeks back. That's Austin Lane. That's Jeff Logman.
I'm J. P.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Shaddick And thanks to Brook Hoffy, Brent Reever, Joe Fortunato,
Thanks to you for listening. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.