Jaguars Happy Hour | Victory Monday, Analyzing Jaguars Through 3 Weeks

J.P. Shadrick and Austen Lane hop on the airwaves with Pete Prisco and dive into analysis of the Jaguars' 10-17 Week 3 win over the Houston Texans. The first hour is sponsored by Jet Home Loans and the second is presented by Mr. Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
Checke, Welcome in. It is the first hour of Jaguars
Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on tens and XL,
Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. And here's what's coming up,
presented by Deep Eddie Vodka handcrafted with real fruit, proud
partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Of course, the Jaguars over
the Texans seventeen to ten, big defensive plays late in

(00:47):
the game, three second half takeaways, including two when it
really mattered down the stretch. How to fix the drop
issue on offense and what could be leading to them.
We'll get to offensive talk overall as well, certainly in
quarterback play. A part of that keeping it real tonight
in the second hour, the usage of Travis Hunter. Both

(01:09):
now and moving ahead, we'll break into that fanatics, fan questions,
of course, as always, we'll go around the national Football
League JP Shadwick Austin, Lana Studio with me. What's up
are you? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Happy victory Monday? Yeah? Happy back at you? Yeah. Risco
is in South Florida, CBS Sports senior writer, Happy victory Monday, Pete.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah. I mean, look, there's a lot of things that
went right. There's a lot of things that went wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
The one thing that went right was the winning result.
The defense. The Offense'll start with that. I mean the
drops and the what's six drops unofficial? But the three
from BTJ, two from Parker, one from you know.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay, I'm gonna defend Parker on one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Okayyau.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
He's crossing the field and Trevor waited an hour and
a half to throw the football and he by the
time he threw what he throw it behind him? Should
he have called it? And if our receiver catches that,
but it's bad throw?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, that wasn't the only bad throw from Trevor. Probably No.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean there's a couple of bad throws from Trevor.
But these drop balls, man, you know, it started with
Brian Thomas Junior, and now it's become contagious and now
you have a guy in Parker, Washington, who I felt
was probably the most dependable wide receiver you had.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
He had two drops and to you.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
Know, echo Pete, maybe one wasn't entirely his fault, but
I think great NFL wide receivers they make that play.
So I don't know if it comes down here now,
like do we have to bring sports science in here
and to try to like measure how Trevor's throwing the
ball because I've never seen it like this before.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I mean, I know there's a lot of football being
played and there's a lot of drop balls over the place,
but there seems to be a couple of years now
where especially when you need it the most, there's drop balls.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, there's one we just saw on our screen
on Jaguars dot Com. I mean Petree reached around, made
a good play and kind of knocked it away. So
there's some of that too, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Which one the one that.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Just showed that Petrie knocked out from hitting the one
park No, no, no, no, Brian Thomas j right.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Well, first of a couple of things about that, the
one down the sideline's he didn't put it away that's
on him. That's on him. You gotta put it away.
And the one on the sideline, he should have caught it,
but Trevor needs to throw that out. That might be
a touchdown. It's a bad throw and a bad drop

(03:28):
and all the same play. I mean, there's a lot
of little things on every plate they get. They have
no rhythm. There's no rhythm to the offense. Whether it's
the preset penalties, the holding penalties. You know, one of
them probably wasn't a penalty, but they called it. You know,
the drops, there's no rhythm. The band throws, the bad mistakes,

(03:48):
the band reads. I mean, Demmy Brown has to be
hit on the post. He's on one hash and he
throws it to the other one. He gotta hit that.
The read in the fourth quarter, what the hell was
he looking at?

Speaker 2 (04:07):
He had a guy unders open, right, he.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Had the tight end open for the first down. You
gotta throw it there. I mean, Okay, Peetrie made a
good play to sink off of that and make the play.
But that's elementary reading right there. So yeah, I'm concerned
about the drops. I'm concerned about the rhythm of the office.
I'm concerned about the penalties, and yes, I'm concerned about
the quarterback concern and yes, and you haven't heard me

(04:33):
say that.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
No, you were all inte.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, I just don't think he's playing at a high level.
It's not awful. It's not you know where you bench
him or sit him down, or do you have any
other options for him? Nor would I because I still
think there's good football in there. But he needs to
pick up his play. He needs to play better. I
thought last week he did some good things and there

(04:59):
was some bad things. This week, there wasn't a lot
of good I mean the drops, okay, a couple of shots,
the shot that checked the playoff and on, you know,
late in the game and hit Thomas. Great play, but
there's not enough of that, and so he needs to
pick up his play a little bit a lot.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
To be honest with you, this was a game where
you saw that the running game was getting shut down
a little bit, right, I mean the Houston Texans a
little bit of an upgrade from the Bengals, from the
Panthers defense. Right, So this game it kind of had
the makings of Okay, if you're gonna win it, it's
gonna be with Trevor's arm, and obviously you walked out
of that stadium and it wasn't Trevor had that game
winning drive, No, what was it? It was the defense, right,

(05:40):
The defense kind of saved the day. Whether it was
you know, the interception or the interception that that knocked
out the peanut punch they call it with Tyson Campbell,
whether it was you know a few other turners that
they caused, Like this was the defense's signature game right here.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
And when you talk about the.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Special teams of how they didn't really have their bad
because missed field goal punting wasn't the best. Obviously, the
offense was very stagnant. There was some drop balls, there
was some you know, bad passes, there was a turnover.
Like you can spread the blame all around, but then
the fact is the defense showed up in a very
big way when they had to.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
And that's what you leave the stadium echoing.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
And I actually had the big conversation today on a
different show talking about, you know, when we compare Trevor
Lawrence to Baker Mayfield and how it's kind of similar, right,
it's not similar because right now, if you're a Tampa
Bay Bucks fan, you're leaving those games because they're three
and oh, by the way, you're leaving those games thinking, man,
Baker's got it in him, you know, right, because he

(06:39):
leads three game winning drives. We're leaving these Jaguars wins
thinking Trevor can be a little better here, Trevor's got
to be a little better there. And it's the same
narrative because you can say, okay, you have what five
drop balls in a game, and then the other side
of it is, well, yeah, some misthrows it. Well, that
could have been touchdowns that there was the deep ball
apart Washington that he probably could have had. There is

(07:02):
the other deep ball. I think that when people's talking
about that could have been a touchdown. So those are
two plays right there that may be pulling the quarterback
more than anybody. But then the interception, well what happened
before that? You had two drought balls blatantly drop balls, right,
So then you have an example of a quarterback that's
maybe trying to do a little too much because well,
his team's not backing him up.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
He's not turning it loose in some scenarios either. And
I'm gonna give you one. I watched the twenty two
today when he scrambled with the first down late in
the game. It's a nice play, it really is. But
when you go back and watch that play, he's got
Bretton Strange running down the center of the field and

(07:46):
the defensive back is behind, has his back to him
and he's chasing them. It's a touchdown if you put
it out there. Those are the things that aren't happening,
and those are the things that bothered me because I like,
you know, I like to see the ball go down
the field, and I don't think they're driving the ball
down the fl You know what what the Texans did
the way they played on Sunday, they dared him to

(08:06):
beat them. You saw what they played. The cover They
covered the center of the good gap. They played with
the bear front right. They came after them. You look
at the tape and they're they're they're pounding in there.
They weren't gonna let that run game beat them, and
they said, go ahead and beat us with your passing game.
They couldn't score points. They just scoring up points. That's

(08:27):
a problem, you know. And we'll get into the specific
some of the calls and some of the throws, but
the one that Thomas down the sideline. Thomas has to
catch it, but he's got to put it out that's
gonna talk. He got he's behind Stingley. You got to
put it out there. Bad throw, bad drop. You know,
there's little things on everyone. Dimmy Brown in the middle
of the field. Put it in the middle of the
field or on the hash over there it's a touchdown,

(08:50):
you know, the one you mentioned the Washington, the drop
in the middle of the field. There's just little things.
And then all the penalties. You know, now, the one penalty,
the one pre snap penalty, was the one what might
have erased one of their best plays in the day. Yeah,
when he hit, When he hit Brian Thomas, that guy
was set. You don't call that usually, you know when

(09:11):
the guy goes in motion. The guy was set and
they said he wasn't set for a full second. If
you saw that, you know, TICKI tack, ticky tack. But
when you're getting that many penalties, they start calling those.
They don't give me the benefit of the doubt. And
that's what you're saying. It's sloppy. It's really sloppy. But
I'm worried about the quarterback. You mentioned Baker Mayfield, Baker

(09:32):
Mayfield the same exact offense. He reads it faster, he does,
he goes through it faster. So what do you do?
How do you get him going? And I get his
I would be frustrated by him too. When I do
make a play and they drop it, I'd be frustrated
as hell. But you gotta you know. And here's the

(09:52):
other thing.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
JP.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
We talked about this last year when Tony was our show.
Receivers running through zones and instead sitting in them. They
just keep running. And some of them are supposed to
have run throughs on. I get it, but a lot
of times you gotta sit down and give them a
target instead of running right through the zone and landing
next to the other defender where you have no target.

(10:14):
And a lot of times that happens. So I think
it's all a learning process. And I will say this
Number twelve needs to get the damn ball. Number twelve
needs to get the ball. You saw that on that
quick little throw over there. Get him down the field,
get him on some creative stuff in the middle of
the field that it doesn't have to be just quick stuff.
He can run, he can fly, he's got the speed

(10:37):
he's got, the ability to run, get him the ball.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
This is Jaguars Happy Hour ten to Nexcel, Jaguars dot Com,
Jaguars YouTube. Will have plenty of time to get into
the offense a little bit more less touch on this
defensive performance, and you know, it seems to me they're
taking I mean we talk about this every week. Anthony
Campanelli's personality. The edge players were great yesterday, Yeah, the
second and Derry flying down and making contact and tackles

(11:03):
and filling gaps. I mean that's impressive. Travis Hunter on
the defensive side, six tackles for solo, coming in in
the run game and making a play too. I mean
that that tells you all you need to know about
the mentality of this defense. They're playing physical football and
taking the football away again. Now nine takeaways in the year,
tying their season high or the season total from a

(11:24):
year ago. So they're doing their part certainly.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, And you know, I think when you compare it
to last year in granted, yes, the bar has been
set low from last year, but the major difference to
me from last year to the series defense, they're having fun.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
It's as simple as that.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Like so sometimes That's all it takes is for guys
to buy into your your scheme and your system is
if they're having fun. And if you watch like how
this defense is ran, where you're giving a lot of
like these pre snap looks where people are kind of
standing around. Are we getting blitzer, We're gonna drop back
in coverage? That's fun. I remember like playing it, you know,
in a Mel Tucker or Jack del Rio defense, a
four to three defensive end hand in the dirt six

(12:02):
technique or seven technique. That's all it was, right and
sometimes go the wide nine, boring, mundane, same thing over
and over again. If you look at what these guys
are doing on defense right now, you have games being
ran up front in.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Terms of when you want to blitz.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
You got guys in the back end, you know signal
they're gonna blitz, then drop back into coverage. It's fun
sometimes just to feel like you're an athlete. And I
think that's what this offense or this defense is showcasing
more than anything. It's just it's letting guys be themselves.
And I think two stick out, like two stick out
standpoints here we got to talk about is Tyson Campbell
his fault that Nico Collins scores a touchdown right, the

(12:37):
double move.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
The one guy you can have.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Beat you, he beats you, right, and he beats you badly. Well,
how does you respond to that? Knocks the ball out
a couple series later and it helps win the football game.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
That speaks volumes because I.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Feel like last year would have been Okay, there is
the long touchdown on Nico Collins.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Okay, now it's woe is me.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
We're ping sorry for ourselves here, you know, here goes
the lead, but they find a way. And then another
guy too that I think what we really gotta give
his props to is Devin Lloyd. Yes, Devin Lloyd was
a guy in the preseason. I'm like, all right, it
might be time to look at Ventrol.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Miller, right.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
I don't know, I don't care what the Madding ratings say,
I don't care what PFF says. Devin Lloyd's kind of
playing out of his mind right now. And and if
I'm a Madden raining ratings adjuster, g just what, Devin Lloyd,
You're almost a ninety nine right now as far as
I'm concerned, because he was like a nine year whatever
it was to start the season out.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
He's playing really good right now.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
You know, last week I said Winger might be the
most improved player I've seen in a long time. Devin
Lloyd might be more improved. Yeah, I mean he's actually
it's And so if I sit here, what am I saying,
I'm saying, is he in a money He's in a
money year, right, Yeah, plays great sometimes in money years.
You know that is studying that.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Much different for him? Like what are they doing different
on defense? If anything?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
With and they look Austin they come to the line
of scrimmage. He can run, you can show his athleticism,
he can blitz. I think they're playing more to his strength.
And he's leaner by the way you can look at
his body, he's thinner, he can run better. You saw
him chase down that screen pass on the side over there.
I mean he made that play. Now on the next lay,

(14:17):
I don't know it was his fault. I don't know
if you guys saw it, but there was a run
at him and he kind of jumped on the outside
gap and they ran right inside of him. So there's
still some of those moments. But give him credit if
he's much improved, and you mentioned Campbell. Campbell played well
on Sunday except for the double move. And the other
kid is a lockdown corner. If you watch the tape

(14:38):
and you watch him play, people sit there and say,
what did Travis Hunter do the other day? Go watch
him play corner? And you know what. He's also a
willing tackler for a not so big corner. If you
can see him in the run game, he dives in
there and takes those shots and tackles. So I think
the secondary is just majorly improved because Jordan Lewis is

(14:58):
a good player. Those two safeties or an upgrade. The
secondary is good. The pass rushers are having good gears
so far, both of them. There's only one real knock
on the defense. It's the interior down guys. And we
saw a little bit more of Mason Smith on Sunday,
did you notice.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:20):
And he does some good things where he's really good
at getting push and letting the loopers come underneath them.
He's strong that way. He didn't get the press well.
A couple of times he got in on the pressure
a little bit. I don't know if he got credited
with him memory. He chased him down one time. And
then he also got in there, but he's good on
the interior, getting the push and letting them come through.

(15:40):
Loopers come through.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We've got plenty ahead. We'll dig deeper into the defensive performance.
Of course, in week three we'll return though and get
back on the offensive side in this wide receiver room
and see if we can find a solution all these
drop Saustin, That's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I mean, I'm telling you, if it's another repeat performance
against San Fran, you gotta start slowing the film down
and watching the spiral because, like, at this point, I
think it's like the mechanics of the spiral coming into
the gloves and people are dropping it.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
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Speaker 5 (16:31):
Just knowing that you're doing the things that a lot
of people want to do but not able to do
or can do.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
So I mean, you got gotta.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
Have that mindset and that'll help you go out there
and stay focused and stay confident, just knowing that now
everybody can do this, so you gotta go out there
and make you play.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
When of their numbers helped.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Ryan Thomas Junior after the game in the locker room
yesterday after a Jaguars win over the Houston Texans, the
first home win against the Texans since twenty seventeen for
the Jaguars. Wow, they got that done and now two
and one record, second place in the AFC South. Will
get to the rest of the division coming up a
little bit later. JP Shaddrick Austin Lane, Pete, Prisco, Shaguars

(17:10):
Happy Hour. Glad you're along with us on this Monday
after Week three, and let's get into the wide receiver
performance in yesterday's game Austin. As you mentioned, they had
plugged up the run game and so there was a
lot of early passing game for the Jaguars offense. Brian
Thomas Junior six targets to catch his fifty five yards,
including that long one of forty six that set up

(17:32):
the game winning touchdown, and boy he needed that when
that was good to see him finally get one and
convert one and I think he was. You know, it's
the fastest player I think in a long time in
the NFL. Is lost to that earlier today, his actual
miles per hour was up there, very high, which is
what he does. Parker Washington had a tough day, eleven targets,
four catches. Tommy Brown. They're not sure about him and

(17:54):
his shoulder injury yet. I should hopefully find out something
a little later this week. And then, of course, Travis
Hunter one catch twenty one yards shows his dynamic ability
in the yards after catch. Tim Patrick had a catch
as well, So you know, let's just start with obviously
the drop is used the number one problem right now,
of course, right, yeah. The next issue is, okay, let's

(18:16):
see if Dyami Brown is available moving ahead, and then
what do they do? Is it more Travis Hunter there?
And like can they throw it to him more than
five yards down the field? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
I mean, listen, if you watched that game yesterday when
Travis Hunter caught that ball and made that move, I
don't think in my thirty seven years of a life
and whatever twenty something changes of football, I've ever seen
a move like that, like the way that he juped
and faked like he was going one way then goes
the other.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
That was that was an amazing move.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
It should have been probably a five yard gain, and
his athleticism and his agility and just his his football
prowess turned that into whatever, a twenty something, twenty four
yard gain. Like that's you can't even teach that. That's
just that's why you the unicorn right there. I was
at that game and I was focusing on the siding,
So I'm like, why isn't Travis Hunter any more on offense?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Right?

Speaker 4 (19:06):
And there was a couple of times where he was
standing next to Liam Cohen you could tell like he
was kind of begging Liam Cohen to go in and
Cohen kind of like shrugged him off a little bit.
I think right now, what you have on offense for
Travis Hunter, it's a guy that when he gets the
ball in his hands, is very capable, but lining up properly,
I don't think they trust him quite yet. Interesting, and

(19:27):
I think that's the issue right now, is getting him
the confidence to go out there, whether it's motion, whether
it's just a lining properly. They aren't there yet with him,
and that's the only reason why I can think of
why he's not getting more targets and why he's not
out there a lot because they could use him yesterday.
It's not just the fact that, hey, we we like
Parker Washington this much. Sorry, Travis, like you're not gonna
have played it like No, it's I think it's a

(19:48):
fact of it's taking him maybe a little longer than
expected to learn that playbook, and he's.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Only really I think he's only learned one position. I
think they've limited what he does from a receiver standpoint
because it was so overwhelming to do both, and so
that limits him a little bit as well. I gotta
I think you're gonna see more and more of them.
If the Ammi Brown shoulder is a problem this week,
you're gonna have to see more of them, and I
think you should see more of them. He's a look,

(20:15):
he's a really good corner right now. He is if
you watch the game, he watched the table. He's a
good corner. But they need him as a receiver too.
They need to get him involved, and I think they
will get to start getting him more and more involved
as he gets more comfortable with playing both.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
All right, we'll get we'll keep this reel a little
bit later as well. We're gonna dig a little deeper
into what should be and has been done with Travis
Hunter moving ahead. That's in the second.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
By the way, you left off Strange off of that
pretty good guy.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, yeah, that's where I was going next, Pete. You know,
seven targets, six catches, sixty one yards. They threw it
to Hunter Long a couple of times as well. Mont
had a catch in the game, so the tight ends
were involved. But getting Britain Strange rolling Pete, that's never
a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
By the way, was that a drop for Long?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh? Yeah, I think it was.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Actually I don't know if they counted as one though,
but I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Well, but had one. I had Washington with two and
BTJ with three.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
So so they didn't count them as one.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Who's they I mean, who's counting?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
There's the official drop list? It was? I think I
saw six.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
There's no official drop list. That's a CBS list, not
an official drop list.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Well, I mean people, there's that's out that out there
where they have charted the drops if you go look
at them. I don't know what they charged them out,
but I thought it was six, So I think he
dropped that ball. And we'll talk about that sequence, by
the way, because I got some thoughts on that one
as well. Well. I think they botched it. Hell well,

(21:44):
did they take the time out with a home with them? Yeah,
So basically, you convert the third down and you could
have had more clock, more time instead of taking the
time out. They should have called time out after they
got there's a second downplay. I thought, right, what was
the sequence there?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh, let me find it? Go ahead, keep talking.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
But but I didn't think. I didn't think they handled
that very well. And because they took the time out
home with them, what are you saving it for next Tuesday?
I mean, what.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Do you got JP? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
J was at the end of the at the end
of the half. You know, I'm a stickler for clock
management and stuff. It drives me up a wa.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I was getting ready to sing the praises of Breton Stranger,
but we got to go clock management real quick before halftime.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
All right, So the.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Second get the ball back?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, they get the ball back first and ten from
the Jaguars nineteen fifty three seconds ago, Lawrence sports short
left to Diammy Brown one yard. Brown injured during the play.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Timeout to was waste of time there, waste of.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Time, so they had to call time out there.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Okay, I get that.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think it's probably forced because it's inside two minutes. Yeah. Right,
second and nine, Lawrence short rights to Strange, out of
bounds for sixteen. Clock stops at forty two. Okay, Lawrence
passed short middle to Strange for eight yards and the
time out no timeout, clock ticked tick tick, second and two.

(23:16):
At the forty four Lawrence passed incomplete deep left to
Parker Washington. Clock stops fourteen seconds. Lawrence, Oka, look, so.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
He went from forty two to fourteen correcteen correct? The
still had the time out in their bogget that's right.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Correct. And then on third and two, incomplete short right to.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Hunter long the one he dropped, so and then fourth
down and you'd punt and you take it. You had
to pump because if you don't punt there, then they
get the ball and they have a chance to get
a field goal.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Ask you this real quick. In that situation, they had
one time out left or two one? Okay, Well, I mean,
isn't the whole goal though, You're trying to get it
down to a field goal range, you get in the
middle of the field, because they're probably taking the outside
getting the the field getting field you time out.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
No, you're right, Austin. But if you go from forty
two to fourteen, then and take your time out home
your bought you got no sure, you got to call
your time out, then go then spike then then that's
the way you do it.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
So, I mean, I think the argument here is that
they could have got the ball quicker and not go
down to fourteen seconds left.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I agree with you that.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Like when they got the second down play with when
he gets into the pass with forty two seconds.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Left, Yes, you got you to go, you go right there.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
You go, you call. I would have called time out
there and then go okay, because if you complete it
then you could spike it and go and then and
then get out of bounds or whatever. If you know,
you always have to spike. But the twenty eight seconds
was more important than than what the way they played
it out. And as it turned out, they're gonna take
that time out and put it in a trophy case

(24:51):
because they didn't.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Use it right thanks to the championship to.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
The Southey that they didn't use in Week three at
the end of the half, put it all in there.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Love that any other of those kind of standout peate.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
To you fourth and two. I hate it. I'll be honesty.
Why yeah, this game was this and I'll give you
another one at the end of the Okay, the game
was at that time was ten ten. It wasn't thirty
five thirty five. These two teams weren't going up and
down the field, right, So in a ten ten game,

(25:29):
if you're at what were they at the forty seven?

Speaker 2 (25:32):
They were at the forty seven of Houston six eighteen
to play? Okay, how much six eighteen to play?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
So basically what you're doing is if you get thirty
twenty five yard, you're kicking a field goal to beat me.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, right, So.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Why not when your defense is playing the way it's played,
why not punt it in and make him go beat you?
You It's not like it was forty to thirty. Nobody
was going up and down the field. The only touchdown
for the Texans was a double move true and and
so and by.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
The way, scoring a touchdown on you, right.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
But right, it just I didn't like it. I look,
I like aggressiveness from the head coach. I just think
in that scenario, it wasn't like you were at their thirty.
You were at basically a midfield in a ten ten
game where nobody had moved the football. Why give him
any opportunity to get fifteen more yards and kick a
field goal and beat you? That makes any sense? And

(26:35):
then who's he going to in that scenario, Washington? Yeah,
I mean he's open. He was open. Yeah, So that
was another one. And then my other nitpicky coach.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, they went out right out the window end
of the.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
End of the game. Do you tell your guy the
ready to go down? Because they clearly let him score.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
So I brought this up when I was watching it.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I thought they should have let him go down because,
and I get it, your defense is playing great, shroud
not so much so you trust your defensive situation. But
I'm not sure if I even give them the ball
back to get in that situation.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
So Liam explained this twice. He's played it last night
and again the same way today in his press conference,
that you know, even if the.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
They had two time out, they had two timeouts two.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Times, they if they had stopped him twice and sang
the timeouts and it's a field goal, it's like, oh three,
and then they got to get a field goal. It's
a shorter feet.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
It's kind of it's kind of caught between with the
way it was the two timeouts, it's kind of you're
caught between a rock and a hard play, so you
can go either way on it.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
And the way their defense was playing too a touchdown there,
it's like no, but.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
You could have told them to go down at the
one they use a timeout, then you score and then
that timeout is out of the pocket.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
He also said that if it was down to one
time out, going into that whole scenario, it's called the
Rolex time on the clock situation, right, and that's when
that's when it comes into play.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
It's like one, Well, it comes into play too if
you if you tell your team before you get out there,
if they're letting you score. And it was early for
that to happen, but I.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Was surprised you did that. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, it's early. They could have played it differently. They
could have played stop stop time out, timeout stop kick
the field goal. Then you would have had about forty
five seconds left to go get yourself a field goal
to tie it. But but JD, you could have told
you're back. If they let you go go down on
the half yard line, they'll call time out, then you
can score. If you don't score on that, they'd have

(28:35):
to call time out again. Then you can try and
score and they don't have any timeouts. If you don't score,
you kick your field goal.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
You could.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I think my scenario is better.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
When you agree, I mean, then you're leaving what thirty
seconds or something at that point if.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
You don't score, But either way you're going to make it.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
You score on the fourth down, the thirty seconds something
forty seconds something like that, if you.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Know, because you wouldn't go on fourth down, you would kick.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Your field goal. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
So, but I'm saying you make them use the at
least one of those timeouts before you score on first down,
you go down at the one or the half yard line,
they call time out. One of theirs is out the window.
If you score on second down, they don't have one
of those timeouts. If you don't score, even then you
could still take a knee and then try and score
on third down. What I would do is I would

(29:20):
have tried scoring second down. I would have taken one
of their timeouts, then they have a minute twenty five
or whatever. Is that what they would have had and
one time out?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, but well they would need in theory was a
field goal. If you don't score a touchdown, well, let's
put it this way, and they don't make it.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
If they don't make a great play at the end
of that game, they're getting a touchdown. Anyways. Yeah, I
mean he was open. If Josh heines Allen doesn't make
that play, he's going to hit Kirk in the middle
of the field or he's gonna get interfered with.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And by the way, Kirk was open early on that
drive too, and they just missed it.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Yeah. Deep, So I think I think my way would
have been better. But I could see it both ways.
I understand what he's saying. That was weird for the Tech.
It was early for the Texans. I'll be honest with you.
Really early is a.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Weird game overall, I think, extremely weird game. So strange.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, remember the Bucks did it to
them last week. Remember they let nobody admitted that, but
they supposedly let Chubbs score well.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
And speaking real quick of a weird Strange game. I
have to give props to Breton Strange again because I
think this guy right now, going forward, might be the
most dependable thing on this offense because I don't think
he's really given you a reason why you can't trust him.
You know, I think he's Trevor's security blanket. I think
I think he's kind of a mismatched nightmare that we've
seen so far. Like I think going forward right now,

(30:40):
like if I'm a you know, fantasy football all that
good stuff, like I'm buying stocking Breton Strange because I
think you have to go.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
I agree with you. But there's no way that Parker
Washington and Breton Strange should combine for whether they have
eighteen targets or nineteen targets.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Here's the thing, though, I'm not dravits Hunner.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
And Brians shouldn't have what they have seven But.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Once again, I mean, but Hunter, I think it's about
luuring the offense.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
And I think you know, later on in the year,
more of those targets will come to Travis Hunter. With
Brian Thomas Junior. Yeah, we've seen it. It is what
it is. You start have to get him the football.
I get that, But I actually was a fan of
how they use Parker Washington because basically what they said,
and this is coach Liam going think setting a precedent
for this team.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
You stepped up the past couple of games.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
This is your opportunity to go out there now and
show us what you got right now, did he pass
the test? Well, you had some drop balls, right So
now maybe those targets come back down. But I appreciate
a coach that wants to go you know what, this
guy has stepped up in the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Let's get him more in a prominent role, which they did.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
He's been a good play. Yeah, he's been a good player. No,
but again, when you have Brian Thomas and Travis on
on your team, they should be the ones getting the
majority of the targets. Why they're not, we have reasons
for it, but moving forward they have to be, wouldn't
you agree?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I agree?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
But I'm also a big proponent of writing the hot hand,
and I think Parker Washington going into that game had
the hot hand. Now he's obviously cooled off a little bit,
and then against San Fran looked to Bryan tom Mus
Junior somebody else again, all right.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
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Speaker 6 (32:28):
That's our carling cart. Go out there and take the
ball away if you've been talking.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
About that since Ota.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
So we just want to go out there and force
turnovers and make it a bad day for the offense.
And you know those quarterbacks that we're facing, so we've
been doing a pretty good job of that.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
You just have to stay on the screws and you know,
keep repairing. Jordan Lewis, Jaguars Cornerback. One of three takeaways
yesterday for the Jaguars defense, you had an interception. Welcome
back to Shaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Holme Loans, JP,
Shadrick Austin Lane from the Hyundai Studios, Pete Prisco down
in South Florida. We're on Tintin XL, Jaguars dot Com
and Jaguars YouTube. Pete. The Jags won the game, they rallied,

(33:04):
they won, they executed when they had too late. You
realize they're two and one, right, Pete.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
It'd be three and oh. But they're not right, but
they should be. If officials hadn't thrown that bad flag
on Travis Hunter, they'd be three and oh. And you know,
maybe there would have been more than forty five thousand
people in the stands.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yes, true, Well, okay, I mean, come on, right, this team.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Well, they come out on Monday night. That's the question.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's a great question. It's a great question. They should.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I hope for the sake of the city that they do,
because I know I've been there. You know, I don't
live there anymore, but I lived there for a long time.
I covered that team for a long time. I know
there's a passionate fan base there is. They're just jaded,
they're scared. They don't want to be all in and

(33:59):
get hurt again. So I think they're kind of laying
low for a while. But that's the sad part about
it is when you see the stadium, people are gonna say, oh,
fans stink. No, they don't. They don't not even close
it's a great fan base. Is it the Bills Mafia?
Probably not, but it's still in its infancy compared to that.

(34:22):
So I just hope that the fans do start going again,
if particularly if they win this week at San Francisco.
If you win against the forty.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Nine ers, there's no excuse to not come.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
You're three and one, you're playing Patrick Mahomes. It's no
to the game.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's not the same old Jags anymore. They do all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
No, because you know why, if they go to San
Francisco and win, they need bucking a lot of trends
of the House of Horrors that California has been over there.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
And listen this entire season, I've been hearing it. Just
it feels different this year with Liam Cohen and company. Right,
And that was probably the one guy that's like until
I see it on paper, until I see wins, Like
I'm not gonna sit here and say that angles game
was different, Like, yeah, it was different because ran the football,
but you still lost to a backup quarterback, Right, So
I was skeptical. And then you come in against the
Houston Texans where we've seen it how many times, where

(35:10):
there's no rhyme or reason. Maybe have the better roster
on paper, but Houston always has your number in Jacksonville,
and I was expecting more of the same, and even
the way that game was trending, I was expecting more
of the same. And then that Nico Collins touchdown happens.
I'm like, up here we go again. We've seen it
a million times before. But they find a way to win,
and it was it pretty absolutely not. Is there a

(35:31):
lot to take away from the game in terms of
you got to improve on some stuff, yes, absolutely, But
at the end of the day, I think they went
out and they bucked a trend of a team coming
into your house and having your number, especially after last
season they knocked out your quarterback.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
To me, now it feels different.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Right now, San Fran is going to be a big
test going on the West coast San frand em though
they're down a quarterback right now, we'll see it pretty
comes back.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
They're down Bosa. They're a well coached, quality.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Football team, right But I agree with you guys, where
if they somehow find a way and it may not
be the best looking win, but if you can beat
San Fran, then there's no excuse why that stadium shouldn't
be packed Monday night, because I get it, people want
to cheer for a winner, but people appreciate consistency. And
I think if you beat San Francisco, then you're showing,
you know what, we're getting better, We're getting consistently, and we're.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Gonna put out a winner, you know, weekend and weekend.
And yes, the offense is working on things right now,
but if it takes the defense being leaned upon early
in the season to get to that point, so be it.
And then at some point the offense in theory Pete
will have to figure this thing out.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
You know, it's amazing that we're even saying that because
we thought it would be the other way. Yeah, right now,
the Texans offense stakes. So it's hard to gauge that
that's a bad offense, really bad, and that's a really
good Texans defense, by the way, really good. So it's
hard to gauge that game and just throw it because

(36:53):
the week before the offense was pretty good. I thought,
you know, they they were pretty good against the Bengals.
Now the Bengals went to Minnesota and just got just
whacked on Sunday, So that ring.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Through you know, drove the field on this Jags defense.
I mean, yeah, they have the PI and all that.
But still, if.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Let me ask you this, if they play Mac Jones,
you have to beat Mac Jones. You know what he is,
and we you know what we thought. He was on
this program all last year in very good and if
and did you see Mac Jones do an interception Sunday
against the Cardinals and there's a viral clip of him
out there where he's kind of chuckling he he haha

(37:32):
talking about it. What if you lose the Mac Jones,
that's a bad look. Now. Like I said, California is
a house of horrs. Did you how many times did
you go play in California when you were there?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I want to say I played there twice.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
But the one that sticks out to me was the
Chargers game because even back so I've been twenty ten
with coach del Rio, like you know, you weren't winning
at all the West Coast. So they actually they changed
how we approached it and instead of going out there early,
we went out the right the night before and like
got you know, kind of zero hours asleep, got messed
up with the time schedule and everything and we went

(38:07):
out there and laid a giant against the Chargers. It
was bad, it was really bad. And then the following year,
I think we played the charge I have been Oakland,
I think we were there for and they had her.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Number as well.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Now, playing on a baseball field it's not fun, but
I mean, we should have won that game, but they
had her number, so there's something to be said for
going that west coast.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, what's their record on California now.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well, it's like one and eighteen or something, right, they
would They won the last game at the Oakland Coliseum. Yeah,
that was the that was the win.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
I remember one year when when I was covering the team,
they played in the Oakland Coliseum and the and the
plumbing went out and the toilets broke, and guys couldn't
take a shower after the game, and they were all
and plus they got beat.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
They were angry, Believe me, they were angry.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Of course. The Jaguars have played twice at San Francisco
and lost both of those, twenty to three back in
two thousand and nine and then forty four to thirty
three in twenty seventeen. Those are the away games.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
I it's just for whatever reason, Cat and they're I
don't think they're going out early because I don't think
they do that anymore. But so, you know, it's just
been a bad situation. But like you mentioned, Austin nick
Bos is out for the year. He's the he's the
heart and soul of that defense.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
He's not Fred Warner.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
I mean Warner right now we're playing maybe at the
highest level he's playing in a while too.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
You know what I saw playing really well.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
They have six stars on that team, six two stars.
Trent Williams. Sure Brock Purty counts because you know you
make that guy your star. Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, Nick Bosa,
and Fred Warner six your stars. Well, three of them
might not be in the game. Kittle's not there, nick

(39:58):
Bos is not there, and Purty might not be there.
That's three or your stars not in the game. That's
that's if if Rock Party doesn't play in mac Jones plays,
you win. You have to win that game. You have
to win that game. You can't lose to the backup quarterback.
It was on your own team last year.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
You shouldn't at least are you going to lock it? Pete?

Speaker 3 (40:20):
If you're that confident California House. Ohod, No, I'm not.
I'm not getting into that mess. No, maybe next week
when the Chiefs come to town.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, they're not the chet they once were. They're still
you know what, though, you question them at your own peril.

Speaker 4 (40:36):
Well, and if you want to talk about narratives, I mean,
how good has this Jags were Jaguars team been on
you know, primetime games lately. I mean that's gonna be
another test, Like literally, I mean we can sit here.
This is like the defeats of strength right now.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
They beat at home, They've as against a lot of
teams over the years, so there's some of that.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, good, But they do say that this is
a whole new regime, it's a new team, it's new.

Speaker 5 (40:57):
This do that.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
We'll then go show people it's new.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
So far, so good.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
I mean, yeah, that's a big step in the right Houston.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Was a check mark.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Now going to the West coast and playing in California
that's the next one. Then playing a primetime game against
a say what you want tobut with the pretty solid opponents. Still,
I think that's another check mark. So I mean, if
you can knock up a couple of those check marks. Then, yeah,
guess what it's different here?

Speaker 3 (41:21):
What's the schedule get like after the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Well, it's funny you asked that, Pete, because we were
talking about this earlier before the show today. Of course,
the Niners this coming week and then home against the
Chiefs on Monday night, home against the Seahawks, and then
London against the Rams.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
That's a tough stretch right there, right.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
And then okay, bye week and then at Vegas and
then at Houston and then home against the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, that's it's it's not a it's not an easy
schedule by name stretching. Those are like Seattle is better
than you think they were. You get them at home,
that's a big edge for you, though, that's a long
trip for them, and you're a good Rams are Goods
are really good. Yeah, I mean Chargers are playing great.
The Chargers have Herbert playing like what people thought Lawrence

(42:16):
should be playing like. Right, remember when they played off
of that playoff game and the two gunslingers, young gunslingers
ripping it around, but one still ripping it around and
the other one needs to start ripping it around. Let's
be real, He's gotta start playing like that.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Let's come back in a moment. We'll take a look
at the AFC South one other game in the division yesterday,
we'll recap that and then coming up in the second hour, fanatics,
fan questions, and yes, we'll keep it real about the
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Lane and Peter You know what. I don't know how
much he's got to be past that by now, but
I think at first he was like, just till we
move on.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Yeah, but it's Quas didn't like it. He didn't like
in the beginning. Now I think I think he'll laugh
by the way. I like the way he handles his
team after games.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
You guys watch those, of course, and we're gonna hear
hear that coming up at the top of the next
hour in a few minutes. But yes, yes, he's right,
he's all up all about it. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah. And I think he handled the media pretty well too.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think he's great with the media.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Actually, yeah, yeah, I like I said the other day,
I thoroughly learned stuff when you talk to him, and
I respect him for that. And you know what, when
you like that one time when you told I told
him what I said about him and whatever, he didn't care.
You don't care.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yeah, No, you know.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
I have to give Liam con a lot of credit here,
just because I always have the preconceived notions of when
a first time head coach takes over a team, and
if it's an offensive minded guy, I think a more
like analytical x's and o's. I don't think is this
guy going to be a great leader of men?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Right? Like, can this guy get the.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Most out of his guys, and then you look like
defensive coordinators like you know, I mean, like Aaron Glenn
things like that. It's like, yeah, maybe the offense won't
look great in New York, but I guarantee like he's
going to try to get the most out of his players,
right because he's more of like a vocal leader, hold
you accountable type of guy. I didn't know what type
of guy Liam Cohen was. And you know, obviously the
duval thing comes out. I'm like, oh, man, all right,

(44:50):
is he going to be able to rally a locker
room and everything? Well, the behind the scenes access of
him and you know, yelling and screaming and celebrating and
home people honorable. Number one, it's refreshing. But number two,
I didn't know he had that in him. Like I
didn't know him personally. I've talked to him, never met
the guy personally, though, in terms of having a long
winded conversation, I think he's the man for the job

(45:10):
because that was my biggest question.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Mark for him was me too.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
You know, you knew that you can call the plays
X and o's and everything, maybe get good quarterback play fantastic,
but can you elevate guys, can you motivate guys? Can
you get guys to rally behind you? And that was
the biggest question mark to me. And you know what,
and I get it yesterday Pete, it didn't look great,
But that win, I feel it goes a reflection off
intensity and a reflection off physicality and this never quit attitude.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I think it should be celebrated.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
I agree, Yeah, I think he's from that standpoint. I
always say this, you got to know if the guy
can handle the room or not, because you're not a
coordinator anymore. You're a coach. You're a head coach. And
so that's the biggest transition for all those guys. And
he seems to have made that pretty smoothly, which I
give him credit for that.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
And I think just being around him a little bit
at first, it's like, Okay, what's the what's the story
with this guy? But he is as competitive as they come,
by the way. I mean, right there, top tier competitor
in the whole building. And that overflows into when he's
in front of the team and and shows. But that
it may not be publicly at the podium a lot.

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You know, it's just kind of He has really good
answers to the podium, but when he's behind some of
these closed doors, he handles things the way of a competitor.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
By the way, did you see the video of the
six foot seven cheerleader in a hoodie after the game?

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Who would that be? Pete? Oh my god, he almost
got knocked down by Josh heyes, Allen, did you see?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
It's like see he should have had profile.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Now, Wow, everybody's happy when they win. That's how that one.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Time we gotta fight sometime on the show today. We
got to find that video and show we might.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
We're coming back se Come on, Joe, let's get that
on him.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Come on second hour of the show. Coming up, fanax
fan questions. We'll keep it real. We'll look at the division,
look at the league. It's all ahead. Shaguars Happy Hour
presented by Jet Home Loans. You talking about staying with it, right,

(47:47):
Hides and Loans. We talked about that. How do we respond?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Tyson Terrible?

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Brian Thomas Jones.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Cut it?

Speaker 8 (48:07):
When you play complimentary football defensively, y'all were today boys, Gus,
It's not it wasn't pretty in some ways. Understand that guys,
it done, Mata.

Speaker 9 (48:24):
You learn how to win.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
We learned how to win. That is head coach Liam
Cohen in the locker room right after the Jaguars win
over the Texans yesterday and week three, the Jaguars are
down two and one with a seventeen to ten victory.
Welcome back. It's the second hour of Jaguars halfy Hour,
presented by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game,
and during the game, or on TENTEDXL, Jaguars dot com

(48:49):
and Jaguars YouTube. And let's take a look at what
happened yesterday. The Jaguars, of course, got the winner of
the Texans. The defense led the way three second half takeaways,
including a fumble recovery and an intercepting to seal the win.
Late nine takeaways in three games for the Jaguars defense
leads the league and equals the total from the twenty
twenty four season. Through three weeks, Jaguars struggled offensively. They

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had some drops and penalties, but had some executed plays
in key mowens late, including the Brian Thomas Junior catch
and run to set up the game winning touchdown. Brian
Thomas Junior did have three drops in the game, but
he had that key play late and hopefully that sparked
something moving ahead for him. Other issues with drops Parker
Washington had some as well. Jags didn't find a way

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to overcome for a team victory. You heard Liam Cohen
discussing that there. And now at two and one, the
Jaguars are second place in the AFC South, behind the
behind the Indianapolis Colts at three and zero. Up next
a West Coast road trip. The Jaguars had visit the
San Francisco forty nine ers in week four. J P Shadrick,
Austin Lane, Pete Prisco and the second hour of Jaguars

(49:57):
Happy Hour is upon us. And that's wh we were talking about.
The end of last hour was that locker room demeanor
for the head coach. And in credit the organization for
allowing that kind of stuff to go out as well.
They had the losing one last week, which was really unreal.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
It's unreal that they do that. And I credit to
those guys like you said, that's I think open access
is great.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Yeah, it's football, right, Austin. Yeah, there's no secrets, right.
If they're secrets, it's different. You're not going to show
every positional meeting. You don't want to do that.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
No, No, I mean that's going to be a little
gamesmanship on their part, But no, I think it's refreshing
because it almost it brings the fan in on it, right.
I think that's been the goal since Tony BISSELLI, since
James Gladstone got here, and since Liam Cohen was hired.
It's like the they want to purvey the fact that
we're all in this together, right, And I think the
more access that you provide fans, whether it's on YouTube

(50:51):
or whether it's great answers and press conferences, that the
more fans can rally behind that stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Especially.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I mean, let's be honest, last year, you got nothing
right like last year in terms of can you explain
this play?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
No, No, I don't. I don't think I will. And
why are you asking to me that you would to understand? Right?
Like that what fan wants to hear that? Right?

Speaker 4 (51:11):
So it is refreshing because it's a complete one eighty
from what you had last year.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
And it's a younger generation of leadership too, Let's be honest.
I mean both the gm DM's thirty four years old,
thirty five, Yeah, head coaches thirty nine Bisselli and the
grand scheme of things is a younger generation played the
game kind of gets he's been.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Y FA football years.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
He's a lot older than yeah, right, I guess so
he's fifty something going on seventy. But but his the
whole mindset's different because I've been with fans before. The
coach and GM are young. They get it. They're they're
on their phones. They know what that means. They know
what social media means and means to an organization.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
By the way, I love I thought the uniforms were great.
I will say when they were backed up in their
own end zone. They're in their own end zone, and
they had that end zone the way it was. It
brought back memories of the play that forever changed the
franchise in nineteen ninety nine. Those end zones were painted
the exact same way and they were backed up in

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their own end and Leon will I don't know if
he's gonna get mad at me or not, but somebody
on that side didn't get the line call and there
was a loop inside and they sacked Mark Bruneaut for
safety in the championship game, and then they punted and
free kicked it and they Derek Mason ripped the kick
off or a touchdown game over franchise. Never the same true.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Of the memories, Pete, That's.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
What the But had they used those end zones since then?

Speaker 2 (52:44):
I think they did La last year. I think they
painted him last year for the they did Yeah you sure.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I don't think it was black. I don't know, yeah,
but uh yeah. I thought the uniforms looked great. I
think those uniforms now. The striping on the pants was
never great. I didn't think the old striping, but the
rest of that uniform look fantastic. I thought, what do
you guys say?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
I'm a fan of it all, you know, and like
you see players speak out about I think Jordan Lewis
said like make these our primary and everything. I saw
him on Twitter or ex whatever you want to call
it now. But like I think, you know, especially with
my generations, like we get so wrapped up in like
jerseys and the unveiling and everything like that, and the
social media presence of it. But I do think there's

(53:29):
something to be said when you have a new regime
and you start winning football games again and you kind
of turn over a new leaf that I think it's
important to incorporate maybe like a new uniform. Then when
that happens. Right, I'm not saying that they're quite there yet. Right,
you're two and one right now, so like you're on
the trajectory. But I'm saying, like, if you have a
successful season and people are pleased, then maybe take a
look at it.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I make it. I could see that kind of aligning
with the new stadium. Maybe there you go, twenty eight,
there you go. Oh it's a new Hey, the Jags
have won couple of Super Bowls between now and then
moving into the new stadium with a new look and
new feel and the winning football team.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Because I remember when Sean Con first took over. It
was the bicolor helmets. You know, I remember going to
the Yeah, I remember going to that.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, that was terrible. By the way, did any of
the I was going to ask if any of the
thirty two thousand people in the stands wore any throwback?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Well, you gave him forty something earlier. You keep lowering
the number. Now, hell do you do that?

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah, I'm being sarcastic, that's why. But did was there
any throwback stuff being worn? In his stands. I mean,
because I think it's gotta they're selling it now, so
it's kind of.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
Cool you were out there. Yeah, there was some throwback
stuff for sure. Absolutely. I mean my son was trying
to get his hands on him. Like, let's just you know,
let's just give some time. You got I guess, your
new Jaguars shirts, So we'll get you a jersey in meaningtime.
You want to Travis Hunter jersey? All right, so let's
let's get that the offensive numbers up a little bit
and then maybe we'll see.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
What happens there you go.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
You know what I'm saying, it's sure you you gotta
get more, get at least fifty yards, maybe get if
he gets fifty yards or seating this week, Austin, you
have to go out by your son.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Okay, done? Because there aren't a lot of quarterback jersey's
getting sold right now, I think, right, I don't know especially,
I don't know especially maybe not around here the way
the quarterback has been playing the last corner corner corner defensive.
I didn't say quarters talk quarterback.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what we're you gonna say about this?
I'm sorry, but what are you gonna say?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
So that whole helmet thing.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
So they didn't we had zero access before they actually
unveiled it.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
We didn't know what it was going to be.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
And I remember they asked like Tyson Lala to kind
of come up there and like, you know, smile at
the pictures and everything. So like we're standing up there
and this is like, what do you call the atrium?
Is it, like you know, like the the main dinner
spot where the players eat, Like did the one spot
at them?

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah? Here in Jacksonville in this building? Yeah, not well
not in this building. In the West Club. Yeah, the
West Club, thank you? Yeah, the West Club talking about No, sorry,
the West Club.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
And so they have like this giant press conference and everything,
and they unveil it and it's literally like a live
reaction because we had no idea what it was gonna be.
And Tyson Alualu of all people who showed no emotion
ever towards anything, they.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Unveiled the curtain. I turned to Tyson, he goes and
sell it.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
He's like, I'm like, you gotta don't worry about it,
like he just yeah, I mean, like this right here
was the best reaction you could ever had from Tyson.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
You guys, wore black jerseys and pants a lot.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
When yeah, yeah, yeah, that was when shot Con took over,
because when it was the Weavers, it was more the
teal and everything in the white. And then yeah, once
shot Con took over, then it was it. It was
the black jerseys, which we were very excited about.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I thought that uniforms are great, but I know a
lot of fans got the weeby gbs from the end
zone being that color yesterday.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Come on, man, come on man, it's always that.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
It's always that.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
It's not the other fourteen wins they had that year,
probably with the same end zones.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
True, but they didn't have a play in that end
zone that There's been a.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Lot of play in that end zone. Play changed only
play in.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Going to the super Bowl that year at home, and
that play changed at all.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
You know what happened on the other end in ninety six,
Morton missed the kick got them in the playoffs. So
that's a.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Positive, true, but they didn't. They weren't on the doorstep
of going to the super Bowl that year until they
had to go on the road and win those games.
They were home that day in their stadium.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
We're cheering one play that's my point.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Well, because the franchise has to have been the same sense,
because that's when the Morton Anderson kick. They were good
for three more years.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I can't believe.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Have they call that therapist now through a victory Monday
and go talk to her about the issues?

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Man, Like the Jaguars stinks so bad.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
Right now, and then you got to go back to
the nineties and now it's like an hasn't been the
same since.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Come on, man, man, I'm just I'm just pointing out
that the color of the end zone brought back a
lot of.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
What the what did you have in your wheaties this morning?
Because it kidnop reality reality?

Speaker 3 (58:14):
What they're two and one? They should be three and
Oh but you can't feel good about the way the
offense played Sunday, You just can't.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
No, absolutely not. But do you feel better where they
are right now than last year? I do? And that's ago, Yeah, exactly.
They're not gonna win a bunch of games dropping balls
and having penalties.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Let me read the quarterback season numbers to me.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Stand by, I'll get that to you here right here.
The quarterback of the Jacksonville Jaguars so far in twenty
twenty five. Here are the if I can get to it,
the statistics for Trevor Lawrence or the Jacksonville Jaguars passing
the football. Here we go. I'm getting to it right now.

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Trevor Lawrence sixty three of one thirteen. That's fifty six percent,
six hundred, six hundred and seventy one yards, four touchdowns,
four interceptions, a rating of seventy point three. He's been
sacked only three times.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
That's what I mean, That's that's awful. I mean, you
talk about you talk about were they playing better last year?
At that was he I gues and I can't imagine,
But I don't think he was worse after three games
a year ago.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Well, I would guess that he had a higher percentage
because of all the bubble screens that you love, Pete.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah, well that goes without saying, hey, but this team
will throw some screens now too.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, hey, if that's what's working, right and to be therapy,
I mean, once again, like I'm not trying to make
up excuses here and everything, but those first two games
was really on the legs of Traves DTN and a
little bit of Tooton as well, right, Like I mean,
last year you couldn't run the ball at all. This
year they're showing you can actually run the football.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Houston was a different story, and I think that's going
to be a top tier defense, right, maybe a top
five defense going forward for Houston.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
So they adjusted in the second half and actually ran
pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Yeah, So I think when you have the ability to
run the football like they do, you don't have to
have Trevor put up these these crazy like numbers. Look
at Jalen Hurts. I mean, listen, I've seen how many
videos of you saying Jalen Hurts is in whatever, a
top five, top seven quarterback. Well, he doesn't have to be,
because he's not a great team that can run the football.
Now when he's counted on sometimes like yesterday against the Rams,

(01:00:34):
playing from behind, Yeah, then Jalen Hurts had his signature
game and he's going to have some of those. Hopefully
Trevor Lawrence when it's counted on going forward, can have
one of those signature games.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
And the completion percentage will be higher if there aren't
the drops. Let's be real. I mean that number is
a little misleading, so I'll give him the benefit of that. There.
I just think at some point we've got to sit
there and say, Okay, here's a two seventy three no
pick game. It's got to happen at some point. He
got it with you know, we thought that would be
kind of what it would be with. You got Brian Thomas,
you got a number one wide receiver, you got you

(01:01:05):
draft Travis Hunter, you got that dimension to it. Bretton
Stranger is gonna go to the next level. The lines better,
They're gonna run the ball. They need to get that going.
And and I will say this quarterback play in the
NFL right now in great across the board, if you
look at it, the numbers are way like I think
justin Herbert might have been the only guy to throw

(01:01:26):
for three hundred yards yesterday, Wow wow, Because I don't
think Caleb Williams got there late, and I don't think
and I don't think Dak Prescott got there in garbage time.
So I think at the moment lately, and I got
to look at it late late in the day, Herbert
was the only three hundred yard passer. We used to
have five or six.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Of those week yeah standard wow, yeah, right changed, can
we hit a fifty yard down the field pass at
some point too, Like they've had a few chances and
they haven't hit the big one down the field yet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
They get you, when have they hit one at all
this year? No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Right, No, they missed Travis Hunter down the field? Is
the interception week one, a great one handed pick by J. C.
Horn Remember that, right? And then the two misses this week?
Last week, I don't remember anything, like I don't remember
anything down the field either in Cincinnati. But they missed
a couple this week. So at some point, let's connect

(01:02:23):
on one of those.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, that's true, particularly when he had time on those
to throw those.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
The blind was been playing great.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
He had all days yesterday I'm gonna I mean, and
they weren't like really good, really good defense. But I'll
take you know, like and and watching the tape, if
I ranked the line, I thought Anton was good, the
right guard had some struggles, mccarrey has some struggles, Hainesy

(01:02:50):
was good. Cleveland played like a guy who was hurt
and almost didn't play. It was his worst game, and
little it wasn't great, So you combine it. It wasn't
a great performance by the offensive line, just you know,
and that you you mentioned it, Austin. That's a good
defense they got. They got guys that can get around
the edge, and they got guys who can can push inside,

(01:03:13):
you know, Tim Settle and that group. They played good
on the inside yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
There were moments though, where he had time to throw
the ball down the field.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Daniel Hunter didn't do a lot yesterday, No, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Wasn't it was stinging. Was out for a majority of things.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Yeah, missed a lot of So they were and this
is what Pete talked about the first segment here, like
they were kind of daring Trevor to go deep and
beat them, like there were some plays available out there,
and there was somebody also missed as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
So that's gonna be the difference going forward.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Right, when the defense gives you those looks, you have
to make him pay for it. And granted, like how
many quarterbacks can make those throws yesterday, right, I mean
maybe a handful, but if he wanpposed to be one
of them. But that's what I'm saying, if you want
to for what you're making in terms of your salary
and everything, for what they're paying you, the franchise quarter
back model and everything, if that's the case, then Yeah,

(01:04:02):
you have to capitalize in some of those throws.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
So you're making fifty five million dollars a year, you
got to hit those.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
And listen, and sometimes you have to overcome the drops
as well.

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
Like if you look at last year, Kansas City, Green
Bay top five or top six in terms of drops
in the NFL. Right, but no one was saying, oh,
Jordan Love isn't give me the future. No one was
saying that Patrick Mahomes is a bum. No, no one's
saying that, because at the end of the day, you
have to elevate the guys around you and you have
to overcome those drops. So hopefully going forward, Trevor Lawrence
can do that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I got a sneaky suspicion that he's gonna play well
this week at San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I think, so forgive me that. Why is that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
I just a hunch. I think they might be forced
to if Party plays, they might be forced to. That
team is good at getting an aggressive defense to go
one way and slipping a guy out wide open the
other way. And this is a pretty aggressive young defense.
They go after the football, So I think shiny Hank

(01:05:00):
can get him going one way. Sneak somebody out the
back door and might end up scoring some points that way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
And let's be honest, the Texans might have put together
the blueprint for how to attack this Jaguars offense right now,
stop the run, plug it up, and make sixteen beat you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
And they put a guy in both gaps and it
was the old Chicago front. That's what they did. They
when you play that front, you're Darren teams to beat
you through the air.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
So they're going to see that a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
But they did run the ball in the second half.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
They did Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
They ran it a little bit better. And and Toton
needs to play more. I'm gonna say it needs to
play more, needs to play more. I say it every week.

Speaker 4 (01:05:38):
You know what he shows why real quick though, how
do you feel about Tuting in terms of, you know,
past blocking, Because I think that's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Getting that's get better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
That's one reason why he's that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
And I also think I also think he's had problems.
Like he even said the other day he ran the
wrong way on that touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yes he did, sure, but it was a perfect Jeff
because he just.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Thought I thought, oh my god, Liam Cone just designed
a great place, got the screen action going all on
the right and then he's got tooting back the other
way and he said, I went the wrong way to
get the check.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Yeah. Yeah, and Trevor threw it toom anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
I mean, listen, it all worked out because they were
in a blitz and that had drop back their defensive end.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
So that worked out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Now, if it's a regular base defense and that linebacker
seeing that, yeah, I would hate to be tooting in
that backfield.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
You know what that did? Though? It helped Trevor's completion
percentage fifty percent or whatever it was that play. We're
back in the ball, but we're gonna keep it real
about Travis Hunter's production and usage on both sides of
the football. Mister Chubby's wings our food options tonight, the
chicken rafts. We had the Chubby style wings and we

(01:06:49):
had mozzarella sticks. They were fantastic. And by the way,
they're gonna have a watch party this Sunday for the
forty nine Ers game in the Pawnoviedral location, giveaways, autograph memorabilia,
tickets to the Monday Night gear against the Chiefs being
given away, and appearances by the Roar and Jackson Deville,
so check him out for the Niners game in Panavidra
this Sunday. We're back in a moment keeping it real

(01:07:11):
right around the corner at Shaguars Happy Hour presented by
mister Chevy's Wings.

Speaker 9 (01:07:20):
You know, I think Milo and Kirk have done a
great job coaching those guys in the back end in
terms of the whole mindset and mentality of our defense
is showing up at all three levels, which is extremely
important for us moving forward. You know, it's a physical game,
and yes, there's so much that happens in the secondary

(01:07:41):
that is based off the pass game, right it's coverage,
it's zone, it's man, it's making plays on the ball.
But when you have tackle guys that are in the
back end that come and fill and play physically and violently,
that's only going to help us as we go through
this deal Ted.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Coach Cohen discussing his Jaguars secondary and their tackling ability
and aggressiveness and physicality and welcome back in his Jaguars
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(01:08:21):
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Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Ball right, and he a sponsor for the segment.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Gotta pay, We've got to pay Austin. Yeah, yeah, no, kidd,
this pro bono as tough as is real tough. Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
The way, real quick. The only bad thing about Monday
Night Football, we're not on That's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Right, We're off on this show. We'll have still have
pre game and postgame, but Pete will not be involved
on Happy Hour. No happy hours, no, no happy Hour.
I know everybody's disappointed about that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
You're damn right they are.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
It should be yeah, yeah, yeah, because the ratings on
the show is just like a mass audience. Especially as
the season goes, it just goes up and up and up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Well, I think the ratings go up the worst they play.
That's what I know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
What there's something too like people want to get it
out of their system and hear you get it out
of your system.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Or or when they play really, really well, you know
what I mean. And it's not no different in the
media business period. If it's really good, it's easy to
talk about. If it's really bad, it's easy to talk about.
If you're right in the middle, it's boring and its stakes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
But you're five hundred, which is you know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Kevin, from our standpoint, that's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
It's better than four wins. I'd take eight or nine wins.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Not from a talking perspective, from a content perspective, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Not okay, I actual all right, keeping it real And
it's about Travis Hunter. And of course in the game yesterday,
a little more defense again, and that was a part
of the ask of Liam Cohen. There was how is
the secondary, especially Travis Hunter playing on that side of
the ball, And yesterday he played forty three defensive snaps.
He had six tackles, four solo tackles in the game,

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played nearly seventy percent of those snaps on defense and
on offense, thirty seven snaps fifty little over fifty percent
of the snaps on offense. One catch for twenty one
yards that everybody remembers. So the question is like, what
is the correct balance for Hunter moving ahead? And how
impressed are you with the physicality that he brought on
defense yesterday?

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Austin number one physicality. Very impressed with it, right. I
think that was kind of a signature yesterday, Like if
you want to take like the takeaways from that game
of what he did well. And I think those plays
on defense did a pretty damn good job against Nico Collins.
I think it's one of the best wide receivers in
the league. Wasn't afraid to go man to man with
him for a little bit. So on defense it was great.

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Now on offense, you know how many targets two targets,
two targets on two targets one catch.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
That catch was an amazing catch.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
It almost leaves you wanting more now, right, it was
like the appetizer, but if you catch the run after
was yeah, yeah, exactly, But it's it's a little appetizer
when you're trying to get the full buffet, right, Like,
that's that's what we want to see. And you've seen glimpses,
and now it's gonna be on Liam Cohen to try
to schem him open because I think going forward now
with your wide receiving corps, you need a guy to
emerge as you go to target. And besides Breton Strange,

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who's your tight end? I'm not sure who that wide
receiver is right now? So why not give Travis Hunter
the opportunity to try to be that guy?

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
So what'd you say? He played forty six naps out
of on defense?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Yeah, on defense, there's probably sixty to seventy Yeah, sixty
eight percent of the snaps.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
That's about that's I expect that to go tick higher.
But I think the offensive snaps are going to go
even higher this week.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I just do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
I think particularly Diami Brown's not there, they have to
and and you know there was times where he was
looked like like Austin said, where he wanted to go
in and they're kind of limiting him. So I think
I think this might be the week. Like I said,
the quarterback plays better throwing it around, but they get

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him the football more and then it can't just be
quick throws either get him in the middle. Get him
in the middle. The play that jac Horn made that
was going to be a big play because they got
him down the field. He crossed the field on the
over route. You got to do stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Peter, how impressed are you with the physicality on defense
he brought yesterday?

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Very I mean in the run game, diving in making plays.
You know, you could look at a corner like that,
and we've seen some who aren't very big. Because he's
not a big corner who won't throw their body around.
He lives for it. He loves it. He's a competitive
You talk about competitiveness, that's a guy who's a competitor.
You can see it the way he plays. So yeah,

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let me ask you this from from you guys standpoint.
Going into the season and when they drafted him and
bring him in and everything, didn't you expect more trash talking, flash,
you know, look at me kind of stuff than what
we've seen from him at all, because we don't see
almost none of that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
I don't think we see any of that. He hasn't
scored a touchdown yet, right, there's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Nobody Even when he makes a play on defense, you
know these corners nowadays, they make a play on defense
and they act like they had to pick six to
win the Super Bowl, you know. So so you don't
see any of that from him.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
See, I'm gonna be honest, I'm not surprised, Pete, because
even if you follow him in college and yeah, like
college in that atmosphere with Dion was a little different
and everything like guys like to celebrate. More power to you,
but like to me, it was really telling in the
press conference and just like when he does like his
Twitch videos and everything, the dude's as humble as they come.
And you play two positions where being humble isn't the

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name of the game, right like cornerback and wide receiver
prima donna divas egos, he doesn't have that. So, like
to me, if Dion couldn't bring that out of him
and he can't get that out of him in college,
I didn't expect him to go to the pros and
have it either.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Or he doesn't want to waste the energy because he
has to use it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Maybe he's two position. But yeah, but now I think.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
What happens when he starts making like what happens what
I want to see is when he makes makes a
pick six or a big interception, or or scores a
sixty yard touchdown. You know that what happens then. But
he is a humble kid and he loves the game
that much. You know. Here, there's no you can't take
that away from me. He loves it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Yeah, here's what I might be a little critical on.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
You know, when they drafted him, one of the very
first soundbites from James Gladstone was this guy's going to
change the game, you know. And with that phrase right there,
then you said expectations with that thing base that says, oh,
gonna change the game to you guys, has Travis Hunter
really changed the game for this team yet?

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
No, yes, not, although the defense is better when he's
playing corner than when he's not there, significantly better. Yeah,
because what that does he's the one corner, Tason Campbell
now becomes the two corner, and then you have a
good nickel and Jordan Lewis. When he's not playing corner,

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you have what Jordan Lewis was playing outside, then they
move him inside and Jerry Jones would go outside. Yes,
so it's from that standpoint, yes, but we expected more
offensive fireworks from him is what you expected. So from
that standpoint, no.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Think about this. He's two underthrown passes from Trevor Lawrence
away from at least two touchdowns and a pass interference
call away from the game winning pass defense that would
have put him all over ESPN. I think the first
weeks of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
The J. C. Horn one, Okay, he puts over the top,
he's gonna score there. What's the other one?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
The left side of the end zone last week right Cincinnati.
Wasn't that underthrown by Trevor?

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Yeah, yeah, because Hendrickson was coming in hide. Yeah, gott
Trevor's face.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
He told me, I don't know if he would have
been wide because he kind of he had it. I'm
gonna I'm gonna be a little critical on that. He
needed to run that route deeper than the back than
he did.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Okay, but but I don't understand it is the point, Yeah,
get Henderson's there to hit the popcorn guy. But if
you're gonna miss it, miss it long, don't miss it.
Both of those were the Travis Hunter So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
And look, and I think he's going to be an
amazing player on the offensive side. And they do have
to get him the football, but not just quick throws,
like what was the throw we saw yesterday to him?
It was a quick throw.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Yeah, but see that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:48):
This is the beauty of being two and one right now,
because if you're zero and three or you're one and two,
we probably start to show off with how much are
you gonna use Travis Hunter?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Why is he being used in this situation? Right? But
since you're two and one right now, it's it's secondary. Well,
we he started the show tonight two and one with
the quarterback stinks. So that's what happened on this show.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
No, but here's here's the other part of that. Would
they have I mean, if they weren't two and one,
people would be saying, well, they could have drafted a
wide receiver where they were at and then come back
in the third round and got a corner or maybe
even use next year's first round pick that they didn't
trade away to get a corner if they needed one, right,

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and you could look at it that way. So, yeah,
he's been really good on defense and I think he's
going to be great on defense. But for bang for
your buck, the way you talked about it, Austin, the
way they talked about it when he came here. It's
offense time.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Now its yeah, and the damn all and and that
to me is just that's from the local level, right,
because there's there's a national narrative of Okay, you can't
put him in two positions, right. I remember watching it,
I think with Rex Ryan, who I greatly respect as
a defensive coach and everything, but Rex Ryan was saying
he can't play offense and defense. And then I think
Diana Russini put an article out on Sunday saying how

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there's a lot of skeptics out there saying that he's
not producing enough. Well, if you want to follow the
box score, okay, then, but then if you actually watch
the film with him on defense, he is doing his
part right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
But the problem of playing cornerback.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Is the fact that, like you know, set aside from
tackles interceptions, if you're doing good at your job, you
get no love.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah, if you're that good at your job, they've not
throw your way anyway. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:18:24):
And at the end of and you see it on offense,
he wants to go in there. They're not ready to
put him in there full time yet. And I get
all that. But at the end of the day, we're
we're trying to critique a guy that we have no idea,
we've never really seen before, so we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Even know how to analyze it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
But if I'm Rex Ryan, if I'm Dani Ruscini, I'm
just looking you know what. We haven't seen this before,
so I'm not gonna judge it. I'm gonna sit back.
Trust Liam Cohen, I'm gonna enjoy the show like that.
That's all you can do at this point because I've
never seen this before. I don't know how to handle
the reps and everything. That's not my job.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
See, the four letter Network always needs like judgments and tanks.
Oh yeah, they can't sit back and wait. Yeah, that's
not what they do. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
By the way, I think he might have gotten a
higher grade as an offensive player than he did as
a defensive player. Sunday, how stupid on PFIF How stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
That's why I don't look at PFF. Yeah yeah you do.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
I mean that is really stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
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is Jaguars Happy Hour JP Shadwick, Austin Lane and Jacksonville
Pete Prisco down in South Florida after a Jaguars win
seventeen to ten over the Houston Texans. It's always a
good one. We've got the fanatics fan questions coming up.
But first, our crack research staff has found some social
media video put out by at Jaguars. They did anything

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far right after the game celebration in the hallway outside
the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Here's a quarterback six seven cheerleader in a hoodie.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
Here's Trayvon Walker coming up. Oh chest bumps, Josh heines
out elbows the shoulder.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
What is that? Look at that?

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Oh my gosh, that's that foreum right there. Man. Oh
here it comes like Trayvon walks away and here's.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Josh caughtor by surprise forearm server.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Wow wow wow, and you know what and and and
he's wearing He's wearing James Gladstone's hoodie again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
It's amazing, like how close they they dress alike when
they're on the Jags HQ show on Thursdays.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Now, you know, when I saw Tony in Miami, I
told him, I said, Tony, you're dressing like James Gladstone now.
And he went on this whole spiel about how he
had the hoodie first and it was his and his
wife saw it and ordered it for him from Lulu
Lemon or whatever the company.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
And I'm like, I got JP and I asked you this,
do you ever remember him wearing that?

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
I don't. It was always T shirt guy like, which
is fine whatever, like do your thing, but I don't remember,
like the the lightweight hoodie Lou Lou Lemon, man, it's
comfy stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
If there's anything wrong with that, I mean, listen, like,
I respect Tony PISSELLI as the day is long, but
do you think, like, does Tony Piselli do yoga?

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Probably okay, because.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
I was gonna say, like it's almost like wearing a
band T shirt where if you wear a band T shirt,
you better name three albums. If you wear a lou
Lemon anything, you better like three poses at least Donward Dog,
Flamingo pigeon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Come on, he's he told me, it's as comfortable as
he possibly can be and inn anything. So if that's
the case, but again, he never wore it before Gladstone
showed up. So like John Osher always kids them. There
used to be a show identical, they walk alike, they
talk alike, they're identical cause and I forget what the
name it was way back in the day, but that

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was a song. Oasher sings it all the time now
because he's the one that he pointed it out to me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I've told it's the Patty Duke show.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
There you go, walk alike, they talk alike, they're identical.
GM and President.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
Here's the real, the telling point, because I think, isn't
James Gaston rocking a mustache right now? If I'm not mistaken,
he might Yeah, I think I think he's got a mustache.
If Tony Vasselli starts rocking a mustache, yeah, intervention time,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Yeah, Okay, so we we love moments like that to
pick on him. But the cheer the six seven cheerleader
one was good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
That's pretty good. He almost knocked out the defensive end. Like,
how in the world are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Yeah, you don't play anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
This is this is the up.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
The man has padded up like Josh hain Zell and
surprised him with the contact.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Watched this like he was just no, I wasn't ready for.

Speaker 4 (01:23:12):
That, and boom for that's an interestinct that. That's an
instinct right there. That's all that is. He's a trainer.
That's an instinct like that that doesn't leave you, you know, like, yeah,
joints get a little stiff and everything, but that instant
when someone pops you like that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
He's got three replaced hips right there. I like his
shoulder that was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
It wasn't just a push with that, it was an elbow.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
It was a forearm shiver tool. And then you'll say
like a little woo yeh rick flair, Yeah, I say, I.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Mean the six seven cheerleader, that's what we got. Look,
he's happy, he's he's Team one. You gotta give it
to him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Cheerleaders aren't giving forearm shivers, though.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Look at look at the wa a look on his face.
Look at that what the great past rushers on his ear?
I don't think he had that look on his face.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Yeah, there you go. That's what happens when you win.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Yep, you know what that was. That was almost like
a little subtle shot, like, Josh, if I was still playing,
you wouldn't be getting those numbers against me, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
There would be no tit past today.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Right, Isn't that kind of like that was, Austin. You
say it never goes out of you, but that's kind
of like the best of Hey, Josh, you had a
great game, You're having a great year. But if I
was playing, yeah, yeah, yeah, just to remind you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
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around and making play after play, Austin.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
Yeah, without a doubt, I mean the listen, there's a
lot of people on this defense right now, a lot
of players making some splashes, and he's definitely one of them.
And in terms of the locker room mentality that he brings,
I think they can be happy with.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Him right now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
I think he's a great I think he's been a
great free agent signing. He's been a big part of
what they do on defense. And you know they've blown
a lot of free agent signings. Doesn't look like that's
wuna them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Next question at Jake Jumpman, what are our kick returners
keep catching the ball at or just inside the goal
line when they can let it land in the end
zone guarantee your start of the thirty five? Yeah, that
I don't get.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
The whole kickoff thing has confused a lot of people,
and I don't like it. The landing zone. Let's get
it in the landing zone of it. It's here, you
go to the forty, but it's there, it goes in there.
Come on, give me a break. But he's not wrong
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
But it's increased returns around the league. It is what
the league wants.

Speaker 4 (01:25:50):
I think they're a little ego involved, where every play
you feel like you can make a touchdown off that,
especially the way that you know these special teams guys
are lining up now. So I think there's a little
ego saying, Okay, well, I see how they're line up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Let me thirty five, I can get to the forty.
I get to the forty, I'll show you. Yeah, right, okay, uh,
let's go to the next for that. Jaggs ty hard
is it clearly identifiable where the drops are coming from?
Bad placement by the quarterback or the wide receivers, just
not having solid fundamentals.

Speaker 3 (01:26:15):
Both both, Because there's been balls that placement is important,
and I don't know if the placement's been great on
some of those drops now. Some of them are just cleared.
Like the Park of Washington was a great throw, you
got to catch that. The second Park of Washington was
a bad throw. You know, the Brian Thomas one should
have been out in front of him. Not a great throw,

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still should have caught it. So it's probably a combination
of both.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
I'm gonna go back to what my Pop Warner coach
used to tell me, if you get two ends on
the ball, you gotta catch it right. And I think
a lot of these drops you've seen two hands on
the ball, and you know, maybe it's a little behind
every once in a while, maybe it's a little high.
But if you get two ends in the hands in
the ball, attack it and bring it down.

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
And Liam talked.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
About, yeah, I was sorry to JP, but what I'm
saying is you're right. But that's also we talk about
hidden yardage in the National Football League. Accuracy on throws
has hidden yardage involved in it. For example, if he
hits Parker Washington on that cross or where he should
have hit him, he might turn it up and get
an extra six seven eight yards. You know, same with

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the throw down the sideline to Brian Thomas. Put it
out there, he should have caught it, but you put
it out there, he might run under it and it
might be a seventy yard or a sixty five yard
touchdown or whatever it was. So accuracy is so important
in the hidden yards of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
And Liam Cohen talked today about like where the ball
is caught in terms of depth of the receiver. Is
it caught behind your face, does it cross your face
before you can catch it if you're running across, or
do can he catch it out in front of your
face and see your hands catching it like, so that's yeah,
there's some of that too. There's a little everything involved
in this moving ahead next week.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
He's turned a lot of high balls too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, you know what, And that's been the thing his
whole career.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Right, Yeah, he's been high. He's always been high. And
they thought they might have worked that out of him
with the mechanics, but it has it like even the
touchdown pass. Deanmi Brown dropped that touchdown pass in the
end zone last week, and some people will say that
was a high ball, but he should have caught it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Nit him in the hands right at Levan Frorence. Did
we do something to al Shay here? Did a Jaguar
Data's sister. Seems like he's got a beef with this.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
I think he has a beef with a lot of
people when he plays the game, and I'm not gonna
have any Look, what he did last year was wrong,
but he plays the game with an edge. I don't
mind playing a game with an edge. And if you
go like, I'll give you an example. Last week in
the Tampa game, there was a hit on the sideline
where he should have been called for a late hit.
He hit a guy out of bounds and it didn't

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get called. And he does things like that, he pushes
the envelope. That's just the way he plays.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
He's the type of guy where you hate to go
against him, but you're glad he's on your team, right,
Like the Houston Texans love him. I assume that locker
room you hate playing against him, and I think what
his issue is as well, that's a that's a benefit
of Jaguars Twitter. I think after that shot on Trevor Lawrence,
I think a lot of you know, his DMS got
mentioned and everything, and because he even brought it up,
Like anytime you bring up what people say on social media,

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guess what you're affected by it a little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Yeah, absolutely, I would say so.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Last one at No Toes down Austin, you were sitting
by my buddy at the game yesterday. What kind of
fan are you in the stadium?

Speaker 4 (01:29:22):
I think I know you were talking about by the way,
but to be fair, I try to be chill and
calm and collected because I'm always watching things that people
may not be watching. I'm watching the sideline demeanor. I'm watching,
you know, obviously the defensive line, and plus I have
a ten year old with me. He was my son.
I'm trying to set a good example. He was talking
morri smack than I did. But I will be honest.
When when Tyson Campbell knocked the ball out, I had

(01:29:45):
a few choice words of excitement and everything, and my
ten year old turns to me, goes, Dad, I just
want to let you know what you said, those curse words.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
I wanted to say him too, but I didn't, but
I was thinking him. I go, all right, man, noted,
appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
And we know because that fan called in earlier said
that you were cursing at number sixteen when he made
a couple of bad through.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
A little bit yeah yeah, and a few choice words
under my breath for those.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
These deep balls aren't getting hit today, or catch the
damn ball. I mean, I've I've said it before.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
I've swore twice in front of my son in terms
of football watching now three times after the game. Once
was Blake Portos throwing two interceptions for touchdowns in the
same game that that gotta and then one was a
Trevor Lawrence interception to uh in front of my son
watching the game on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
UH.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
So it feels good to swear in front of my
son in with a good play. You know, I'm not
saying I'm going for Dad of the Year or anything,
but it's football. It's emotional.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
He knows.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
Yeah, but Austin is probably like nothing compared to what
he hears when he goes to school.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
Oh that's what I'm saying, then, that's what I'm saying,
or the music that he listens to as well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
I mean, let's be honest. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, that's
what it is. X fan questions are and we're back
in a moment to look around the NFL in Week three.
He will wrap it up when we return as Jaguars
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days route. He gets hit us, he let it go.
The Paul's floating up there.

Speaker 10 (01:31:18):
The ball is picked up, the Jackson picked it up.
The Jackson picked it up. They take over at their
own four yard line. What a play they hit him
if he let it go, it was picked off. Antonio
Johnson has the pet and the Jags have taken over

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at their own four yard line.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Just to be clear, it was picked off. It was
Antonio john knows. Frank Bransey with the call of course,
Why of course? That is the call of the game,
presented by Coyle Fence. Since nineteen twenty seven, we've been
around the block and fenced it to no exciting play.
The exciting moment I was in the bowl, had to
do the postgame interview on the video words and to
see that play from hinz Allen to Tippet and then

(01:32:03):
the play by Johnson to dive for it. That was
a fantastic finish.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
So that's Antonio Johnson on the field. Because in large
party goes Darnell Savage was then.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
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Let's take a quick look around the National football You know,
I like a lot of things in life. I love
a good cigar in bourbon. I love a nice steak

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dinner company of a lovely woman on a date at night.
And when the Titans lose to the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
List, so you're two out of three.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
So but when the Titans lose added to the list
because it is so sweet when they lose. They are
zero and three and that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
But there's can you really relish in it for you
JP if they think so bad, I mean, and they're bad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:01):
It's fine, good, Yeah, I'm glad. Okay, they're terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:33:05):
Ye, they're they're terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
They're terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
On Sunday, cam Ward threw a pick six to open
the game. It was awful.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Yeah, not good, not good. Colts are good, are they?

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Because they beat the Titans and and we don't know,
they beat the Titans and the Dolphins, who both are
really bad, and they beat the Broncos, who are now
one and two are supposed to be a good team.
We'll know more about the Colts this week because they
go play the Rams in LA.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Panthers shut out the Falcons, set about they.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
Might have a Michael Pennox problem. He was awful. It's
two weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
He had been very good, not good. Brown's over the
Packers thirteen to ten.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
That was weird ending.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Yeah, weird ending. There's a lot of weird endings that game,
by the way, too. It was smash Mouth Pepe game thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Brown's defense is good, man really good?

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
There another weird ending was the Philadelphia game. Of course
the black you'll go return for a touchdown? Would have
won anyway with just the black. No, why not?

Speaker 4 (01:34:05):
If you're that big, you take it back, you score
a touchdown, big guy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
By the way, they that's a sign of a really
good team to be down to that team that by
that many and come back and win that game. Here's
one other thing. Three point three per rush for Sakwan Barkley.
Did they run him too many times last year? He
carried at almost three hundred and fifty times.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
M something to think about. Vikings blasted the Bengals forty
eight to ten.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Wait, Jake Brownie became Jake Brownie.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Yeah, that's what happened. And by the congrats, I forgot
who the defender was.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
He scored two touchdowns, the first Isaiah Rodgers, the first
ever perfect rating on PFF ninety nine point nine on PFF,
first ever rat.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Does he get a medal from that? Like what happens?

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
That means he probably got a probably should have been
aside from the two big plays, probably should have got
a sixty when we.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Really did it right. Buccaneers over the Jets twenty nine,
twenty seven, Baker Mayfield said it was a revenge game
because the guy on defense whacked him.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
It's Steve Wilkes. Baker Mayfield has it. If you want
to look around the league and look at a quarterback
who has it, that man has it called moxie.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Yeah, it stands out in a big way by.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
The way they started. They started five guys on the
offensive line who hadn't before the season on and one
of them played that was planning to play that position.
And the two guards made their first NFL starts. They
had five holds, five holding penalties on the first drive
and still won the game first drive.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
It's hard to dude, It's really hard to do. Bears
beat the Cowboys thirty one to fourteen, The Niners over
the Cardinals with Mac Jones starting sixteen to fifteen. Chiefs
beat the Giants twenty two to nine. Monday Night Football.
It's a fantastic matchup. Jared Goff and the one in
one Detroit Lions who lost to the Packers and beat
the Bears. Well, they had to Baltimore to face Lamar Jackson,

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Derreck Henry and the one and one Baltimore Ravens, who
you got on the inner Harbor tonight, Austin crab cakes
and football. It's what Maryland does give you. The Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
I'm gonna take the Ravens too, But I think this
is gonna go up and down the field like a
track meet. I don't think either defense is all that good.
Manabeeki's out for the for the Ravens, Man Noise out.
On the other side, they're giving up a ton of
big plays. Terry and Arnold's really struggling. So I think
it's gonna go up and down. But I think the
Ravens will find a way to win the game.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Ravens up and down the field game and the Lions
will be one and two?

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
Can you believe that? Good? That would be a good
one and two team compared to some of the three
and O teams.

Speaker 2 (01:36:40):
Absolutely, I mean that's there's a lot of football left
and for them to really get right and get winning results.
So don't don't count them out. If that happens tonight,
that's Monday Night football. Next week, Peter are gonna lock
Jaguars at San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
No, I will not. I do think I think they
can win the game, though, I really do it even
in even in that state of horror that has been California.

Speaker 4 (01:37:02):
I still have my ring camera, but I'm starting to
I'm gonna invest in a lock here, I think pretty
soon the way it's going, because I need to feel
a little safer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Yeah, wow, yeah you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Can't. You can't lock one on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
YEA for sure? Yeah, And now we'll ask this again.
And maybe we'll ask because I go to show before
Monday night football. How about the Chiefs game, a primetime game.
You need to lock it times, Come.

Speaker 3 (01:37:23):
On, Chiefs, we have a show next Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
I've done it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
JP's wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:34):
I don't know, man, you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:36):
Haven't seen your moments in your forties? What told you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Now? Who knows?

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Did you get the dan Quinn treatment to somebody knock
you on your ass? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
I don't know what happened. I got hit by Tony Boselli,
I think is what happened. Pete Prisco, Austin Lane, J P. Shadwick.
It's Jaguars Happy Hour.