June 2, 2025 • 22 mins
Jaguars Defensive End Josh Hines-Allen and Head Coach Liam Coen and speak to the media after practice during the third week of Organized Team Activities.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Familiar faces. Uh, good to see everybody got married. Congratulations graduate,
welcome to the club. But good to see everybody faces again.
See shout out to Gene too. I miss you, Gene.
I know you're watching this, and.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But just how have you sort of adjusted to the
new defense, new coaching staff and all that kind of
stuff over the last you know, however many days, I
mean I.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Think we've ad just a well, including myself, I think
just you know, being in the building, being here, being
with the guys, getting the communication from the coach's mouth,
it's always huge.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Uh. You know. The co coaches have been awesome, very communicative.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Uh you know, they wanna, they want to get us better,
They want to be involved, they wanna they want us
to be for each other. And you can tell by
the passion that they give each and every day. Uh
you know, I love it. Uh a group of coaches
that you know, I want to sacrifice my body for
and and give it all I can. So you know,
I'm excited for what this ho for the what this
year it brings us.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You haven't been at OTAs the last few years. Why
was it important to be at.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean it was a lot of different things just
a lot of just a lot of different things, a
lot of different things.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think we can get into that a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But yeah, do you are you gonna miss Arizona and
doing that different stuff or I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I think there's a time and place.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know, before I came here, I was in ag
so you know, this time for me to go work
out there.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And you know, I'm getting older, so you know things
are gonna probably change a.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Little bit throughout the year. I just have to find
out what works best for me, you know, each and
every year. Can't can't try to recreate things I did
last year. Got to create a year within itself and
you know, learn to adapt, which I'm learning. But being
here has been awesome. I enjoyed you know, everything about it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And you know, can it be beneficial with the new
staff awesome?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, definitely definitely getting there, Uh, getting their terminology because
just different things that we've used last year that they use.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's like on like D line fronts. You know, it's
switch for us, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So uh, I'm still processing you know, jet front and
restaurant from last year to this year, cause I'm so
used to one thing. But I have to translate into
different culting staff terminology.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But uh, it's going good. They're they're being very patient
with us.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Uh, but we're also being very studious as a team,
as a as players of getting it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So we're doing good.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Did you ever hit to eighty last year?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I mean I got up to two. I was like
two eighty five.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I was much bigger, and you know, my mindset was
always you know, to be as dominant, but you know
it was a little obviously holding a little bit more
weight kind of you know, puts a little bit more
wear and tear on the body, and just you know,
it was a lot too much. Again, learned to adapt,
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gotta know know what works best for you. Something I
tried and something that I'm like, alright, I probably don't
wanna do that again.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So we're working on maintaining, uh a good goal for
me this year and you know, put some good tape
out there.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Did that have.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Towards the end of the year, See, I don't know,
because like I was also getting banged up a lot more.
My body was was not cooperating as much as I
wanted to, you know, but I take care of my
body to the most. But it was a little bit different,
So I don't know if that had something to do
with the weight. So, uh so that's something I took
in consideration coming into this year.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And uh, well yeah, what's the goal number this year?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
To sixty five?
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
To break the sack record? Uh, be an All Pro
and win Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
What do you weigh this year though? Like when when
you come into camp, do you want to be in
that to sixty five range?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Want to be a dominant mindset? I don't want to
be too eighty five? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
All right, yes, yes, heavious and and I felt it too,
but you know, I feel great. I ran twenty miles
power the other yes, the other day, so you know,
we can mark that up.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So so I still got it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
In a long time, okay a long time, but that
was for me chasing my kids.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So but we still counted.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I mean, everybody up front they wanted to get bigger.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
So was it collectively?
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Did y'all just not feel as effective as you wanted
to be?
Speaker 6 (04:25):
You think, lass?
Speaker 8 (04:26):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I can't really speak on everybody's situation. I can only
speak on minds. Uh and minds? Was you know I
can't go into another season thinking about my weight, you
know what I mean. So that's why this year, you know,
coming back, just come back in that mindset, in that
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in that weight class that I feel like I need
to be and is dominant as.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Fast can move, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I don't wanna get off the field, you know, and
and that allows me to you know, lose a little pound,
lose a couple of weight, cause I don't want to
get the field.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I want to Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I wanna do what's best for my team. I wanna
play at a high level each and every rep, you know,
get out, get a squirt of order, and then come
back in and fit and play four or five plays
if we needed full speed and take over games. So
that's my mentality. Uh, that's the mindset, and that's the
still go At the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Quickly, did you guys flush last season defensively?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The des Uh?
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Next question, like Coach Camp Ellie was spending a lot
of time with you guys.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Uh during the early periods.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
What would like had a decordinator like, you know, really
focusing on the details that you.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Guys were doing.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Definitely, Uh, Coach Camp has been awesome This whole. He's
never t like I know everybody says the mentality, the personality,
the personal person.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That he is. He's just a lot. He's a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
But it's nice, you know, cause you step into that
mean room, you're gonna expect one thing, you know, And
it's not just screaming. It's the passion, is the love.
It's the love of the game that he had. Kalay's
always told me, man, if you want to be great
at something, you had to love, you gotta respect it.
And so for me, he gives off that. He respects
the game. He loves it, he loves the team, he
loves the players that he's that is playing for him.
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And I can only give us trust and faith that
if we go out there and give him everything we got.
You know, I would love to keep seeing that upbeat
and when he's calm, that's when it's like, all right,
somebody's about to get cursed out in.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
A good way.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
This is a little bit all talk of last season.
You had a Guardian cap. You were for one game.
What was it like wearing the Guardian cap? Did you
like it? Did you not like it?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Uh, it's just you know, personally, you know. It was
just I don't I don't think like I will wear
it again, but I can see the uses of having it.
So the guys that are wearing it, there's no shade
or no knock. I think if you wear it, you
know you're thinking about long term stuff. So kudos to
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them and continue to wear it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I don't want to say anything negative about it, but
for personally, I probably won't do it.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It just felt a little maybe.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I mean, it's not heavy, it's a it it It's
like your brain's telling you that it's heavy, I think,
and I don't wanna again. I don't wanna think about
something when I'm already thinking about whooping a person in
front of me.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's just like the way thing like I don't wanna
think about going to a season like my weight, my weight,
my weight, cause I gotta think about I gotta whoop
this dude in front of me, you know. So that's
just one more thing that I just don't wanna worry about.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Back to camp quick, Josh, did you know about him
when you were in high school? Cause obviously he started
coaching at Scotch Plains and then obviously it's.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I didn't, but we woulda for short whooped him that
we would have played against 'em.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You know that's I don't want. I don't want better
now now I want Bosco, Saint Peter's, all them private schools.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We woulda we would have whoop 'em back in the day.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
C posted tag it come on man, best public school
in the in the nation, joshod Do. Sometimes Yeah, tell.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Huh trained away from here cause.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
He reported to be here this year.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Uh yeah, I think it kind of spoken at but no, no, no,
you're good. You know you my god I message, Yeah,
you might get all y'all my pupils. But uh, you know,
I think I told myself, you know, even last going
into like even the next season last year, I was
gonna be back in old Today's this year. And then
you know, when we hired coach uh Liam. You know,
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it was that connection that I had with him, you know,
that conn that Kentucky connection I had with him to
give him, you know, to help him out to be
there for him to be one of the guys that
he can trust and lean into this season. And then
I had a lot of coach Kentucky coaches calling me.
You know, coach White that I loved dearly, who's the
DC at Kentucky now called me.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Was like, yeah, you're gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, you know, so I you know that summer I
already had him back in my mind of coming back
and doing it no matter who we would have had,
cause I got big goals that I need to do.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And you know, again, it's all about adapt thing figuring
out what works.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And so this year I thought coming to OTAs would
be a good sign for me, and uh, you know
it's paying off pretty well. To take a question, that's okay, Jane,
we will we will be missed.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Okay, So confidence level that you guys can get back
to where you were and have played defense in it's
been a minute since you guys have been a really
good dominant defense.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
What is your conference?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Let that the energy and the juice and everything will
be back to where I.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Mean it starts, it starts right now.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You know, we can you know, coach Coach Camp has
a saying, you know, talk is cheap. You know, we
can talk about how good we're going to be, how
you know great legendary our defense or individual.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Players can be. It's all about the work we put
in every.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Day, the communication that we have in the red zone,
backed up situations, playing good situational football, knowing what everybody
has to do, being in the right place.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And it starts out here.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
If we can stack great days out here and keep
doing it, and then we put the pads on, we
can continue to you know, be physical upfront. You know,
linebacker's flying downhill, dB staying in the backfield because we
don't need it because we're stopping were stopping the run
up front, and we.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Got pass rushers that can rush, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So again, it's just all about that trust and you know,
we got a good team, good players, and you know,
I'm excited to play for these boys.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Where have you guys progressed at so far?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, I think today was probably the most balanced, uh
it's been where offense make a play, defense come.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Back make a play.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I thought it was just a good competitive back and forth,
whereas maybe in days prior there's been more Okay, the
offense has a really good day in the defense not
and vice versas the defense has a good day and
the offense.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Has ticked off, specifically myself.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But you know, I thought today was just a good
balance of guys making plays and then coming back, Okay,
who needs to make a play? Who's going to stop
the bleeding on each side when maybe the offense or
defense is making more. So I think just that competitive
balance maybe has progressed over the last six or seven practices.
And I just thought today was probably a little bit
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cleaner in terms of it wasn't just like all right,
a ton of drop balls or fun, you know, just
some of the fundamentals were cleaned up a little bit today.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Was it perfect? No, But I think that's maybe an
area where we progress today.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
Previous years a lot was made about red zone and
certainly the growth there or lack thereof what do you
make so far of that portion of the field for
Trevor and come.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I think he's actually done a really nice job
in the red zone. Really looking back to the first
time that we did it last Friday, when we did it,
I think he made some quick decisions. You know, everything
is sped up in the red area when the timing,
the rhythm, the space, it's all tighter, it's all sped up.
I thought he's done a nice job with his footwork
in the red zone understanding that concept and ultimately, like
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good teams in the red zone are able to run
the football into the end zone, and it's hard to
do that in this setting. So a lot of it
is kind of geared towards practicing the past game, the timing,
the rhythm, the protections, understanding when zero blitz is coming.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Versus drop eight.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So those are the things we're getting work at, and
I think he's done a nice job of executing in
that area so far.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Rookie Glass starts kind of settling in and now that
they've got a few under their belts.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
A little bit, you can definitely see where maybe some
of those guys are working with the first group or
even the second group. You know, you see some of
those guys being thrust into some of these situations, whether
it be because they've you know, a earned those reps
or maybe some injuries in the back end. You know,
those guys are having to take some quality reps, which
has been great, and then they get a good developmental
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period going on right now where they're going to get
about ten to fifteen plays every day after practice. So
you see those guys doing what walkthroughs on their own.
I go down and lift in the weight room, and
they're in the indoor walking through. So they're definitely trying
to do the right things to help put them in
a position to be successful.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
How would you say the all the mind is coming
in this said Ota.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, I think they've they've actually done a really nice
job over the last specifically maybe three days, just in
terms of the communication.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
What we're asking them.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
From a fundamental technique standpoint, it's really hard to see
the maybe the grit and the finish and the toughness
fully on display in these settings just because of the
rules and regulations that we have, and we're obviously trying
to improve every day as a unit offensively, defensively special teams.
But I do think that that group's done a nice
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job specifically over the last few days.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Why am I thank rookies like trying to just to
an assistance.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, I think they've both, you know, done a nice job.
I'll be honest. I mean, sometimes when you don't notice
OL as much, it's typically because they're doing a good job.
And specifically with with Wyatt, I think you just see
some of the length the side show up, especially inside
at guard playing a position a little bit foreign to them,
you know, based on last year's production and so typically
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when you don't notice those guys up front, it's a
good thing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And ants out to.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
You about Foya Lukan and what have you learned about
him as a professional?
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, like what you just said was the pro the
pros pro.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
He's early that every meeting, sitting down ready to go,
communicates out there at a really high level. Wants to
understand the intent behind each call. He asks phenomenal questions
in the meeting room settings, especially when the whole defense
is in there. Some of the things that he brings
up really forces any engagement within the whole group, with
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the coaches, the players, different position groups. I just think
he has a really nice way of communicating things that
he may not understand that maybe other people are also
not understanding, and so it just kind of brings collaborative
communication together that I think he's, like I said, he's
a pros pro voluntary.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
But we can't see Antoine out there, just curious on
where he.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Was or ah, yeah, he just had a day off today,
wasn't feeling too well.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Wake Travis.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He's been on defense is to o well, you know,
Milo came up to me after practice and said, can
we have him more?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
You know, and so that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
You know, we were in the red area last on
Friday and didn't end up making any like plays on
the ball, but just the movement skills and some of
the man coverages, the feel and zone, you can definitely
see how natural it is for him. Still learning, still growing,
still trying to learn.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
The calls as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But when you see him just in the actual seven
on in team setting, he doesn't look out of place
by any means.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
One thing that I know Josh said today, we heard
it a little bit from Trayvon, heard it from Eric
on Oscher's podcast, This idea of players who want to
get lathered up on the defensive side of the ball
and not maybe not be rotated out as much, actually
play first, second, third down. In your assessment of the
roster from last year, how much was that a point
of emphasis to ensure that a forty one to forty
four they're on the field as much as yeah, that's
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the goal.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Ultimately you've got it. It is a fine it's a
little bit of a balance of keeping guys fresh and
wanting you know, you always hear the term waves of rushers,
but ultimately you've got to have your best guys on
the field as much as possible, and especially in those
money downs, whether it be in the third downs, known
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passing situations, and in the red zone.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Right, So, I do think it's a balance.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But ultimately, if they're in the physical shape to be
able to do it and to play down in and
down out consistently, that will be really important for us.
Those guys are going to have to be in elite shape.
They've done a great job of getting to that point
thus far, and think that there are you know, on
on track to do those things.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
In this fall.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Before about being an offensive minded coach and what you
mentioned the balance the defense makes place. Do you feel
like you're learning how to handle that side of it,
you know a little bit more, or is it still
offense primarily?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I think last week, you know, there was a it
was actually a comical play in the red area and
seven on where Deanmi Brown makes a one handed catch
kind of behind him like this. It seems as if
he came down with the play and I'm kind of
going nuts. All of a sudden, Jordan Lewis comes out
with the ball and starts running it down this way,
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and I start running with him, So right in that moment,
I'm excited in pump for the offense, but then had
to just innately switch to being excited for the defense.
So ultimately it is a little bit of a challenge
at times. I think just naturally my mind goes a
little bit more to the offensive side. If we don't
have a good day, or if we don't complete a ball,
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I'm probably gonna be a little bit more upset, but
still learning, still growing.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
What have you seen from ut in so far?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, he's done every day everything we've asked him
to do. He's done at a at a good click
for us. I mean the ability in the screen game
to hand him jet sweeps his vision so far, and
the run game has been good.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
You know, he's done everything we've asked him to do
and more.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There's been a consistency again some one of those things
where you know he can shine in ways in space.
It's really hard to see a runner in this setting.
Are they going to get the hard, physical, tough yards.
Are they gonna be able to stick their foot in
the ground and get those you know, physical violent yards
that we're gonna need. That's hard to really kind of
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great at this moment, he's done a great job. I
don't I don't really understand some of the stuff I've
kind of seen out there. That's that's absolutely inaccurate. From
later in the day to earlier.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You get a lot of feedback from the players on
on that and think thinking you.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Maybe, yeah, you know, I think that early on you're
you're just you set a schedule and and then you
have to always I think, be fluid, right, like if
we're just gonna sit here and say we're gonna bang
our heads against the wall and do a long practice
to what's the points The goal is to get good
quality work for them to walk off the field during
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OTA's feeling like they yeah, they got lathered up, they
got a good workout in that. But not to just
have them keeled over dying. That's not this phase. That's
not what it's about. Do you want to stress them
physically and mentally, absolutely, But to me, this is more
of a mental above the neck time to stress these guys.
So yeah, after the first couple we kind of peeled
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it back a little bit and and just try to
kind of freshen it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
A couple more guys come Josh.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Hid out and come to OTAs to like having a
leader like him show up for these are mandatory.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Yeah, it's it's huge.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It's something that ultimately you want to be the standard
for everybody, right, for everybody to want to be here
with what we have available to us, with this facility,
with the training, with the strength and conditioning, with the nutrition,
you want guys to want to be here and not
have to feel like they need to go elsewhere to
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get quality work in for the themselves.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
So that's been huge.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's been huge for to have him here, especially you
know what he's been going through personally with his family,
and for him to be here as much as he
has has been really really instrumental off.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
For our defense and excuse me, and for our entire team.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
As far as DB's go. You know, obviously you're rotating
guys in and out, but what do you make so
far of the competition at that room, especially on the outside.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Man, they've got their hands on a lot of balls
so far.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean, just having some more vision on the quarterback
and some of the zone coverages and then shoot when
we've been able to play.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
It's something that they've been doing for quite some time
last year, and so they've done a nice job. And man,
I think Tyson's done a nice job with his hands
and feet at the at the second and third levels.
You saw him on Tariff make a nice play again today.
He's been steadying, consistent. You know, that whole group has
done a really good job. Jordan Lewis, Jarion Jones, that
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whole crew of guys. It's been competitive. It's been a
learning curve obviously. You know, when you're used to playing
so much, man, going back and playing a little bit
of zone, as it sounds, could be a little bit
challenging based on where your eyes are and the discipline
things like that. I think they've done a nice job
though so far. Outside predominantly, Yeah, he goes inside a
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little bit, but primarily outside. Be able to still get
him some nickel reps. And you know he's eager, he's
eager to learn. He's him and Jordan Lewis walk around
everywhere together, saw him at church yesterday together. So you know,
it's a good person for Jarring to continue to learn from.
And and both of those guys are doing a good job.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
You made sure when you got hired just how impresses.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Some of the things Brian did on tape was now
that you're actually here with him in person, just what's
it been like.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Yeah, he's got those freakish talent.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Man, he's got some freaking freakish traits, and just his
attention to detail in the meeting room setting, being able
to answer questions. You know, you see some of his
personality come to life as well. But you see when
we get into competitive situations, there's definitely a little bit
of an uptick. You get the feedback from some of
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these guys, especially when it's scripted, they're just kind of like,
again again, you.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Know, why is it?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So we start doing more call it and you start
to see, especially VT come to life. The ability for
a big dude like him to be able to operate
in the slot, run some of the choice and option routes,
but also to be able to go vertical and catch
the ball down the field.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
He's been a real pleasure to work with so far.
App Thanks guys,
Familiar faces. Uh, good to see everybody got married. Congratulations graduate,
welcome to the club. But good to see everybody faces again.
See shout out to Gene too. I miss you, Gene.
I know you're watching this, and.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But just how have you sort of adjusted to the
new defense, new coaching staff and all that kind of
stuff over the last you know, however many days, I
mean I.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Think we've ad just a well, including myself, I think
just you know, being in the building, being here, being
with the guys, getting the communication from the coach's mouth,
it's always huge.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Uh. You know. The co coaches have been awesome, very communicative.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Uh you know, they wanna, they want to get us better,
They want to be involved, they wanna they want us
to be for each other. And you can tell by
the passion that they give each and every day. Uh
you know, I love it. Uh a group of coaches
that you know, I want to sacrifice my body for
and and give it all I can. So you know,
I'm excited for what this ho for the what this
year it brings us.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You haven't been at OTAs the last few years. Why
was it important to be at.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean it was a lot of different things just
a lot of just a lot of different things, a
lot of different things.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think we can get into that a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But yeah, do you are you gonna miss Arizona and
doing that different stuff or I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I think there's a time and place.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know, before I came here, I was in ag
so you know, this time for me to go work
out there.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
And you know, I'm getting older, so you know things
are gonna probably change a.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Little bit throughout the year. I just have to find
out what works best for me, you know, each and
every year. Can't can't try to recreate things I did
last year. Got to create a year within itself and
you know, learn to adapt, which I'm learning. But being
here has been awesome. I enjoyed you know, everything about it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And you know, can it be beneficial with the new
staff awesome?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, definitely definitely getting there, Uh, getting their terminology because
just different things that we've used last year that they use.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's like on like D line fronts. You know, it's
switch for us, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
So uh, I'm still processing you know, jet front and
restaurant from last year to this year, cause I'm so
used to one thing. But I have to translate into
different culting staff terminology.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But uh, it's going good. They're they're being very patient
with us.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Uh, but we're also being very studious as a team,
as a as players of getting it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
So we're doing good.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Did you ever hit to eighty last year?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I mean I got up to two. I was like
two eighty five.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I was much bigger, and you know, my mindset was
always you know, to be as dominant, but you know
it was a little obviously holding a little bit more
weight kind of you know, puts a little bit more
wear and tear on the body, and just you know,
it was a lot too much. Again, learned to adapt,
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gotta know know what works best for you. Something I
tried and something that I'm like, alright, I probably don't
wanna do that again.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So we're working on maintaining, uh a good goal for
me this year and you know, put some good tape
out there.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Did that have.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Towards the end of the year, See, I don't know,
because like I was also getting banged up a lot more.
My body was was not cooperating as much as I
wanted to, you know, but I take care of my
body to the most. But it was a little bit different,
So I don't know if that had something to do
with the weight. So, uh so that's something I took
in consideration coming into this year.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
And uh, well yeah, what's the goal number this year?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
To sixty five?
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
To break the sack record? Uh, be an All Pro
and win Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
What do you weigh this year though? Like when when
you come into camp, do you want to be in
that to sixty five range?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Want to be a dominant mindset? I don't want to
be too eighty five? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
All right, yes, yes, heavious and and I felt it too,
but you know, I feel great. I ran twenty miles
power the other yes, the other day, so you know,
we can mark that up.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So so I still got it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
In a long time, okay a long time, but that
was for me chasing my kids.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So but we still counted.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
I mean, everybody up front they wanted to get bigger.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
So was it collectively?
Speaker 8 (04:21):
Did y'all just not feel as effective as you wanted
to be?
Speaker 6 (04:25):
You think, lass?
Speaker 8 (04:26):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I can't really speak on everybody's situation. I can only
speak on minds. Uh and minds? Was you know I
can't go into another season thinking about my weight, you
know what I mean. So that's why this year, you know,
coming back, just come back in that mindset, in that
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in that weight class that I feel like I need
to be and is dominant as.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Fast can move, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I don't wanna get off the field, you know, and
and that allows me to you know, lose a little pound,
lose a couple of weight, cause I don't want to
get the field.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I want to Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I wanna do what's best for my team. I wanna
play at a high level each and every rep, you know,
get out, get a squirt of order, and then come
back in and fit and play four or five plays
if we needed full speed and take over games. So
that's my mentality. Uh, that's the mindset, and that's the
still go At the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Quickly, did you guys flush last season defensively?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
The des Uh?
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Next question, like Coach Camp Ellie was spending a lot
of time with you guys.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Uh during the early periods.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
What would like had a decordinator like, you know, really
focusing on the details that you.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Guys were doing.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Definitely, Uh, Coach Camp has been awesome This whole. He's
never t like I know everybody says the mentality, the personality,
the personal person.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
That he is. He's just a lot. He's a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
But it's nice, you know, cause you step into that
mean room, you're gonna expect one thing, you know, And
it's not just screaming. It's the passion, is the love.
It's the love of the game that he had. Kalay's
always told me, man, if you want to be great
at something, you had to love, you gotta respect it.
And so for me, he gives off that. He respects
the game. He loves it, he loves the team, he
loves the players that he's that is playing for him.
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And I can only give us trust and faith that
if we go out there and give him everything we got.
You know, I would love to keep seeing that upbeat
and when he's calm, that's when it's like, all right,
somebody's about to get cursed out in.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
A good way.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
This is a little bit all talk of last season.
You had a Guardian cap. You were for one game.
What was it like wearing the Guardian cap? Did you
like it? Did you not like it?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Uh, it's just you know, personally, you know. It was
just I don't I don't think like I will wear
it again, but I can see the uses of having it.
So the guys that are wearing it, there's no shade
or no knock. I think if you wear it, you
know you're thinking about long term stuff. So kudos to
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them and continue to wear it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Nothing.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I don't want to say anything negative about it, but
for personally, I probably won't do it.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It just felt a little maybe.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I mean, it's not heavy, it's a it it It's
like your brain's telling you that it's heavy, I think,
and I don't wanna again. I don't wanna think about
something when I'm already thinking about whooping a person in
front of me.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
It's just like the way thing like I don't wanna
think about going to a season like my weight, my weight,
my weight, cause I gotta think about I gotta whoop
this dude in front of me, you know. So that's
just one more thing that I just don't wanna worry about.
Speaker 8 (07:29):
Back to camp quick, Josh, did you know about him
when you were in high school? Cause obviously he started
coaching at Scotch Plains and then obviously it's.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I didn't, but we woulda for short whooped him that
we would have played against 'em.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You know that's I don't want. I don't want better
now now I want Bosco, Saint Peter's, all them private schools.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
We woulda we would have whoop 'em back in the day.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
C posted tag it come on man, best public school
in the in the nation, joshod Do. Sometimes Yeah, tell.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Huh trained away from here cause.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
He reported to be here this year.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Uh yeah, I think it kind of spoken at but no, no, no,
you're good. You know you my god I message, Yeah,
you might get all y'all my pupils. But uh, you know,
I think I told myself, you know, even last going
into like even the next season last year, I was
gonna be back in old Today's this year. And then
you know, when we hired coach uh Liam. You know,
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it was that connection that I had with him, you know,
that conn that Kentucky connection I had with him to
give him, you know, to help him out to be
there for him to be one of the guys that
he can trust and lean into this season. And then
I had a lot of coach Kentucky coaches calling me.
You know, coach White that I loved dearly, who's the
DC at Kentucky now called me.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Was like, yeah, you're gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah, you know, so I you know that summer I
already had him back in my mind of coming back
and doing it no matter who we would have had,
cause I got big goals that I need to do.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And you know, again, it's all about adapt thing figuring
out what works.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And so this year I thought coming to OTAs would
be a good sign for me, and uh, you know
it's paying off pretty well. To take a question, that's okay, Jane,
we will we will be missed.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Okay, So confidence level that you guys can get back
to where you were and have played defense in it's
been a minute since you guys have been a really
good dominant defense.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
What is your conference?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Let that the energy and the juice and everything will
be back to where I.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Mean it starts, it starts right now.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You know, we can you know, coach Coach Camp has
a saying, you know, talk is cheap. You know, we
can talk about how good we're going to be, how
you know great legendary our defense or individual.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Players can be. It's all about the work we put
in every.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Day, the communication that we have in the red zone,
backed up situations, playing good situational football, knowing what everybody
has to do, being in the right place.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And it starts out here.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
If we can stack great days out here and keep
doing it, and then we put the pads on, we
can continue to you know, be physical upfront. You know,
linebacker's flying downhill, dB staying in the backfield because we
don't need it because we're stopping were stopping the run
up front, and we.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Got pass rushers that can rush, you know.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So again, it's just all about that trust and you know,
we got a good team, good players, and you know,
I'm excited to play for these boys.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Where have you guys progressed at so far?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, I think today was probably the most balanced, uh
it's been where offense make a play, defense come.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Back make a play.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I thought it was just a good competitive back and forth,
whereas maybe in days prior there's been more Okay, the
offense has a really good day in the defense not
and vice versas the defense has a good day and
the offense.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Has ticked off, specifically myself.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
But you know, I thought today was just a good
balance of guys making plays and then coming back, Okay,
who needs to make a play? Who's going to stop
the bleeding on each side when maybe the offense or
defense is making more. So I think just that competitive
balance maybe has progressed over the last six or seven practices.
And I just thought today was probably a little bit
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cleaner in terms of it wasn't just like all right,
a ton of drop balls or fun, you know, just
some of the fundamentals were cleaned up a little bit today.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Was it perfect? No, But I think that's maybe an
area where we progress today.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
Previous years a lot was made about red zone and
certainly the growth there or lack thereof what do you
make so far of that portion of the field for
Trevor and come.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, I think he's actually done a really nice job
in the red zone. Really looking back to the first
time that we did it last Friday, when we did it,
I think he made some quick decisions. You know, everything
is sped up in the red area when the timing,
the rhythm, the space, it's all tighter, it's all sped up.
I thought he's done a nice job with his footwork
in the red zone understanding that concept and ultimately, like
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good teams in the red zone are able to run
the football into the end zone, and it's hard to
do that in this setting. So a lot of it
is kind of geared towards practicing the past game, the timing,
the rhythm, the protections, understanding when zero blitz is coming.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Versus drop eight.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So those are the things we're getting work at, and
I think he's done a nice job of executing in
that area so far.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Rookie Glass starts kind of settling in and now that
they've got a few under their belts.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
A little bit, you can definitely see where maybe some
of those guys are working with the first group or
even the second group. You know, you see some of
those guys being thrust into some of these situations, whether
it be because they've you know, a earned those reps
or maybe some injuries in the back end. You know,
those guys are having to take some quality reps, which
has been great, and then they get a good developmental
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period going on right now where they're going to get
about ten to fifteen plays every day after practice. So
you see those guys doing what walkthroughs on their own.
I go down and lift in the weight room, and
they're in the indoor walking through. So they're definitely trying
to do the right things to help put them in
a position to be successful.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
How would you say the all the mind is coming
in this said Ota.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, I think they've they've actually done a really nice
job over the last specifically maybe three days, just in
terms of the communication.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
What we're asking them.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
From a fundamental technique standpoint, it's really hard to see
the maybe the grit and the finish and the toughness
fully on display in these settings just because of the
rules and regulations that we have, and we're obviously trying
to improve every day as a unit offensively, defensively special teams.
But I do think that that group's done a nice
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job specifically over the last few days.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Why am I thank rookies like trying to just to
an assistance.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, I think they've both, you know, done a nice job.
I'll be honest. I mean, sometimes when you don't notice
OL as much, it's typically because they're doing a good job.
And specifically with with Wyatt, I think you just see
some of the length the side show up, especially inside
at guard playing a position a little bit foreign to them,
you know, based on last year's production and so typically
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when you don't notice those guys up front, it's a
good thing.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And ants out to.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
You about Foya Lukan and what have you learned about
him as a professional?
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, like what you just said was the pro the
pros pro.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
He's early that every meeting, sitting down ready to go,
communicates out there at a really high level. Wants to
understand the intent behind each call. He asks phenomenal questions
in the meeting room settings, especially when the whole defense
is in there. Some of the things that he brings
up really forces any engagement within the whole group, with
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the coaches, the players, different position groups. I just think
he has a really nice way of communicating things that
he may not understand that maybe other people are also
not understanding, and so it just kind of brings collaborative
communication together that I think he's, like I said, he's
a pros pro voluntary.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
But we can't see Antoine out there, just curious on
where he.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Was or ah, yeah, he just had a day off today,
wasn't feeling too well.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Wake Travis.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
He's been on defense is to o well, you know,
Milo came up to me after practice and said, can
we have him more?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
You know, and so that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
You know, we were in the red area last on
Friday and didn't end up making any like plays on
the ball, but just the movement skills and some of
the man coverages, the feel and zone, you can definitely
see how natural it is for him. Still learning, still growing,
still trying to learn.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
The calls as much as possible.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But when you see him just in the actual seven
on in team setting, he doesn't look out of place
by any means.
Speaker 8 (15:38):
One thing that I know Josh said today, we heard
it a little bit from Trayvon, heard it from Eric
on Oscher's podcast, This idea of players who want to
get lathered up on the defensive side of the ball
and not maybe not be rotated out as much, actually
play first, second, third down. In your assessment of the
roster from last year, how much was that a point
of emphasis to ensure that a forty one to forty
four they're on the field as much as yeah, that's
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the goal.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Ultimately you've got it. It is a fine it's a
little bit of a balance of keeping guys fresh and
wanting you know, you always hear the term waves of rushers,
but ultimately you've got to have your best guys on
the field as much as possible, and especially in those
money downs, whether it be in the third downs, known
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passing situations, and in the red zone.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Right, So, I do think it's a balance.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
But ultimately, if they're in the physical shape to be
able to do it and to play down in and
down out consistently, that will be really important for us.
Those guys are going to have to be in elite shape.
They've done a great job of getting to that point
thus far, and think that there are you know, on
on track to do those things.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
In this fall.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Before about being an offensive minded coach and what you
mentioned the balance the defense makes place. Do you feel
like you're learning how to handle that side of it,
you know a little bit more, or is it still
offense primarily?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I think last week, you know, there was a it
was actually a comical play in the red area and
seven on where Deanmi Brown makes a one handed catch
kind of behind him like this. It seems as if
he came down with the play and I'm kind of
going nuts. All of a sudden, Jordan Lewis comes out
with the ball and starts running it down this way,
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and I start running with him, So right in that moment,
I'm excited in pump for the offense, but then had
to just innately switch to being excited for the defense.
So ultimately it is a little bit of a challenge
at times. I think just naturally my mind goes a
little bit more to the offensive side. If we don't
have a good day, or if we don't complete a ball,
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I'm probably gonna be a little bit more upset, but
still learning, still growing.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
What have you seen from ut in so far?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, he's done every day everything we've asked him
to do. He's done at a at a good click
for us. I mean the ability in the screen game
to hand him jet sweeps his vision so far, and
the run game has been good.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
You know, he's done everything we've asked him to do
and more.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
There's been a consistency again some one of those things
where you know he can shine in ways in space.
It's really hard to see a runner in this setting.
Are they going to get the hard, physical, tough yards.
Are they gonna be able to stick their foot in
the ground and get those you know, physical violent yards
that we're gonna need. That's hard to really kind of
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great at this moment, he's done a great job. I
don't I don't really understand some of the stuff I've
kind of seen out there. That's that's absolutely inaccurate. From
later in the day to earlier.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You get a lot of feedback from the players on
on that and think thinking you.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Maybe, yeah, you know, I think that early on you're
you're just you set a schedule and and then you
have to always I think, be fluid, right, like if
we're just gonna sit here and say we're gonna bang
our heads against the wall and do a long practice
to what's the points The goal is to get good
quality work for them to walk off the field during
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OTA's feeling like they yeah, they got lathered up, they
got a good workout in that. But not to just
have them keeled over dying. That's not this phase. That's
not what it's about. Do you want to stress them
physically and mentally, absolutely, But to me, this is more
of a mental above the neck time to stress these guys.
So yeah, after the first couple we kind of peeled
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it back a little bit and and just try to
kind of freshen it up a little bit.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
A couple more guys come Josh.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
Hid out and come to OTAs to like having a
leader like him show up for these are mandatory.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Yeah, it's it's huge.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It's something that ultimately you want to be the standard
for everybody, right, for everybody to want to be here
with what we have available to us, with this facility,
with the training, with the strength and conditioning, with the nutrition,
you want guys to want to be here and not
have to feel like they need to go elsewhere to
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get quality work in for the themselves.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
So that's been huge.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's been huge for to have him here, especially you
know what he's been going through personally with his family,
and for him to be here as much as he
has has been really really instrumental off.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
For our defense and excuse me, and for our entire team.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
As far as DB's go. You know, obviously you're rotating
guys in and out, but what do you make so
far of the competition at that room, especially on the outside.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Man, they've got their hands on a lot of balls
so far.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
I mean, just having some more vision on the quarterback
and some of the zone coverages and then shoot when
we've been able to play.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
It's something that they've been doing for quite some time
last year, and so they've done a nice job. And man,
I think Tyson's done a nice job with his hands
and feet at the at the second and third levels.
You saw him on Tariff make a nice play again today.
He's been steadying, consistent. You know, that whole group has
done a really good job. Jordan Lewis, Jarion Jones, that
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whole crew of guys. It's been competitive. It's been a
learning curve obviously. You know, when you're used to playing
so much, man, going back and playing a little bit
of zone, as it sounds, could be a little bit
challenging based on where your eyes are and the discipline
things like that. I think they've done a nice job
though so far. Outside predominantly, Yeah, he goes inside a
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little bit, but primarily outside. Be able to still get
him some nickel reps. And you know he's eager, he's
eager to learn. He's him and Jordan Lewis walk around
everywhere together, saw him at church yesterday together. So you know,
it's a good person for Jarring to continue to learn from.
And and both of those guys are doing a good job.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
You made sure when you got hired just how impresses.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Some of the things Brian did on tape was now
that you're actually here with him in person, just what's
it been like.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Yeah, he's got those freakish talent.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Man, he's got some freaking freakish traits, and just his
attention to detail in the meeting room setting, being able
to answer questions. You know, you see some of his
personality come to life as well. But you see when
we get into competitive situations, there's definitely a little bit
of an uptick. You get the feedback from some of
(22:03):
these guys, especially when it's scripted, they're just kind of like,
again again, you.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Know, why is it?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
So we start doing more call it and you start
to see, especially VT come to life. The ability for
a big dude like him to be able to operate
in the slot, run some of the choice and option routes,
but also to be able to go vertical and catch
the ball down the field.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
He's been a real pleasure to work with so far.
App Thanks guys,
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