June 10, 2025 • 21 mins
Punter Logan Cooke, Head Coach Liam Coen, Cornerback Jourdan Lewis and Offensive Coordinator Grant Udinski meet with the media following the first day of 2025 Veteran Mandatory Minicamp.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is where I'm starting.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's you I love to go this year, and it's
kind of kind of what the goal is, I mean
goal for everybody you know, but this one is attainable.
So uh yeah, and honestly a big thanks to James
and me and them talked about this before, but you know,
I haven't done a thing for him. That's kind of
what's cool about to me is he he just got
here and he had enough faith in me to key around.
So that definitely is a lot better.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
How long have they negotiations going on?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Too long? But no, I'm not. Everyone's been great to
work with obviously.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
When uh, you know, he loved the place and the
places seem to love you back, it kind of kind.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Of goes pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But man, between this high score recruit and I kind
of just wanted to play football pun fish, So I
don't like dealing with all that stuff, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Me like the leagues, highest state parks on the team.
Yet that yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
If someone tells me money don't matter, they're going this
is someone you know, two boys and awesome wife.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The boring plays. So when you start talking about finances
when it's just you. That's kind of different.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But then when you have a you know, people behind
you and kids that you're raising up, it doesn't mean
a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
How well physically you feel as good as you ever have.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'd be thirty next month and I still swinging it
and I feel you know, I'm not saying I feel
like I did when I was twenty one, but you know,
as far as consistency and feeling very comfortable on the field, Uh,
that's that's kind of where I'm at right now. And
I'm trying to keep that, keep that consistent feel and
try to keep everything as simple as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And that's kind of the goal.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You trying to the faith that Leaves showed in you.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Uh, you know, he kept you Ross and Cam and
the coordinators. So uh is that a recognition that that
that phase of the team was was too good to
pass up or.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Too good to Yeah, I mean I think before we
even changed changed, uh, you know, leadership roles. You know,
before we got got James here, there was a lot
of conversation had between me and people who were still
here at the time that was hey, like, I don't
care what happens.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I know there's a lot of change coming.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But as long as this guy stays like that's that's
everyone in the room wants that and talking about Heath
and you know Heath his three years here you said
three Pro Bowlers every year. I think that's testament to him.
And obviously our scheme puts people in good positions to
make plays.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Coming off a career year, where do you see some
marginal improvement? Where would you like to see the next step?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, you know, I had had a game I'd love
to have back last year, and I think it is
as a when you get to I guess a mature
player in the NFL that you can have bad plays,
but not bad games. And I think cutting out those
bad games. There's one game in Vegas last year that
just it's not how punt and I've they came to
a point like the fourth quarter. I told Ross as
they did, we got to stop punting because I just
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we need to go home, you know, And I can't
have those those games. And I think my goal is,
you know, just have some bad plays, but keep the
bad games from having.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yes, thank you all, Jack coach. The three guys, did
you see enough that made you feel like we can't
break this group up.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Yeah, it was important after you know, talking to people
once I once I actually got the job, and then
you start to watch a little bit more film on
special teams and watch our specialists and how they operated.
Then you obviously start talking to the people in the building,
and not only about Heath and Luke, but obviously about
the guys and and just the professionalism, the way that
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they practice, the way that they go about their business.
And then obviously when you turn the tape on and
you see the weapons that they are as specialists, that's
that's a part of the game that man, when you
don't have those assets, it's a difficult game at times,
especially when you got to be able to flip the
field and play field position when you need to be
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able to get points from a longer distance. So, you know,
that was really important. It was critical to keep that
continuity together. And so far have been nothing but please
with these guys.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Did you ask that of these guys, is that your
goal for OTAs to be a little different than a
mini camp.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
And yeah, we just you know, tightened the racks down
a little bit in terms of the amount of repetitions
and just up the competes a little bit. I thought
they did a job today within that still taking care
of each other, practicing the right way. Yes, we umped
the level up, the level of competition, but you didn't
see a million people banging into each other or guys
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getting banged up, and it was cleaner. I was a
little concerned with that, and that's obviously not what we're
trying to get accomplished out of these next few days.
But yeah, we were keeping score on the competition phase
of it, and it was really the red zone and
the third down periods we kind of kept score and
just try to make it a little bit more fun
for him. You know, at the end of the day,
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these guys, when you have it on a script, that
becomes a little monotonous forum. And so we're trying to
do as much call it periods as we can for
us as coaches. But also I think the players enjoy
it a little bit more for them to just go
play and not be you know, previewing a script.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Do you think you have as line?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, I thought there was a little bit more of
a rush today, which was great to seem from one aspect,
And like I was just talking to Tony about this
just now it's it's actually the worst time to play
offensive line because there's no surface area to touch, and
as much as we'd love to not admit, there's holding
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that does occur in a in a you know, professional way,
and so it's really difficult to play offensive line in
these competitive situations that are primarily drop back past situations.
So really not judging them by any means. But although
it was nice to see some of that juice off
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the edge and our d line getting going a little bit.
That was nice to see because we really haven't not
necessarily seen it. We have, but more so haven't been
in those settings as much, and so it was definitely
good to see. And but if I was in OL
in this setting, I'd be kind of annoyed.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Along the line.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Just you talked about before having competition in that room.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I know it's not training camp yet, but just what
have you seen from that competition in within that group?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I think it's more.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
The competes for me have been more Okay, after we
throw a pass maybe ten yards down the field, are
they bursting to go get down the field to go
practice the right habits that are going to hopefully continue
on through training camp through the season and be just
like our style of play, the way that we want
those guys to play. It's very difficult, like you mentioned,
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to see an actual physicality within either the run game
or the pass pro in these settings.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
But I think from a repetition.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Standpoint when you talk about competition, that we've got a
lot of guys some quality competitive reps with both the
first group, second group, and third group, and so that's
been nice to have and knowing that, Okay, we're gonna
really hold off on the judgment specifically on the front
until we get the pads on. But I think you know,
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Sean Khale and try you know, Mental Sin have done
a nice job coaching that group up, and those guys
have taken to it, They've taken to the competition, and ultimately, uh, well,
we'll wait to hold off on some of those judgments
till we get to training camp.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Ever had a sleeve on today, first time I believe
in OTAs was there is there anything going on there?
Speaker 6 (07:18):
No, I think he just had a little bit of
just general soreness. You know, we we threw a lot
of balls kind of last.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Week and really leaned up into you know, he feels good,
he said. He said, it wasn't really an issue.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
It was more sometimes when you just have something to
keep it warm, just helps, you know, any type of thrower.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So I think that was more just maintenance than it
is anything that's really bothering them. S.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Yeah, he's another one that just works his tail off
every day. Like if you were to ask Campy one
of the guys that he really has a lot of
appreciation for. Specifically obviously as a defensive core ordinator is
Brenton strange. Just the way that he practices when he
does get his hands on you when he is blocking,
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he's physical, he's violent. Uh, he has some explosive movements.
He's got strong hands. So, you know, I've been really
pleased with with Brenton. I do believe that he's ready
to take a step and you saw it last year
kind of taking some steps forward, and I've been really
pleased with his efforts so far.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
That thought revolve because you just talk about his growth
from the time he's got here to Nount.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Yeah, I think, you know, both physically and mentally, there's
been some growth. You know, I saw some muscles coming
out of his arms, and you know, he looks. No,
he's done a great job, you know, and like I
said in the weight room, with the you know, conditioning,
he's doing multiple.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Meetings a day.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
You know, I'd have to go back and watch the
tape and see how he actually performed. But as you know,
like on defense, as a dB, usually if they're not
calling your name, it's typically a good thing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So I'll have to go back and watch.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
But I think he's done a nice job in terms
of communicating with the guys. He has a little bit
of a benefit of knowing some of our plays in
some ways, but I don't think that's made any changes.
But maybe like formationally, he can anticipate maybe a little
bit more, but he's also a little bit behind obviously
from a terminology and defensive communication. I thought he did
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a good job, and he integrates himself so well with
those guys no matter what.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So I think he's had some progress for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Easily it seems like he's able to jump back and forth. Yeah,
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Guess a little bit because it's something you don't see
every day, right, So for him though, it just seems
pretty like normal, right, And so I think what helps
him kind of do things right. A lot is that
he's so well conditioned that from a mental fatigue standpoint
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doesn't seem to occur all that much out here where.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
He can kind of just run.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
You know, he's been in altitude for a few years now,
and but he is in very good, you know, physical
shape when it comes to just being able to run
all day, and that's something that ultimately, once your legs
start to go, the mind starts to go, and you
don't really see that all that.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Often with him.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
He just keeps going, and so that's been exciting to see,
and that's gonna he's gonna have to lean into that
as he goes here and the reps start to go
up and he starts to play maybe offense and defense
on the same.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Day, which will occur in training camp.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
So yeah, it's definitely a little bit surprising because you
haven't seen it too much.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
For many camp that you weren't necessarily looking for during OTAs.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yeah, I think just a little bit uptick in the competition,
just just trying to put them in some more game
like situations, where as maybe the majority of OTAs, even
though we do situational football every day, it's typically in
a jog through setting a little bit slower paced. We've
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been mainly operating either off of a script or call
it periods of you know, first down, second down, third down,
red zone, but went a little bit more specific today
in the red zone with like third and ten on
the ten, third and seven on the seven. Those got
to habit type situations and then obviously ended with some
two minute.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Work as well.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
So trying to simulate a little bit more game like competition,
game like situations, put them in some more pressure, let
the mind go a little bit more as the fatigue
starts to set in, and try to create as much
sameness as we can to a game.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
You're a little bit.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
More excitement today knowing your full team was out here.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I mean, I think we've had phenomenal attendance throughout the
entire offseason. I'll say, you know, I really appreciate that
from our guy the amount that they've been here voluntarily
and now obviously being in a mandatory time, that it's
been kind of normal, right, Like, we've had such good
attendance that the majority of the guys have been here
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the entire time, and but you definitely felt it a
little bit more yesterday in the team meeting where you
truly have everybody all in there together, you're going over
the schedule of the week and the expectations. I just
felt maybe a little bit more of a serious approach
in some ways to these next few days. And and
it is a longer day, like we'll have these guys
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for the remainder of the day, we'll end with a
walkthrough in the afternoon, which will simulate our cadence and
rhythm for training camp.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And that was That's what the goal is here for
these three days. Get them into a rhythm and routine.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Of kind of what we're gonna do for training camp
and have everybody in here together camp.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Ye, no show.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Is he excused?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Is he?
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Is he?
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Is he?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah? I think he's he's excused for sure. Absolutely. Yeah,
he's got it.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
He just uh had a actually had a baby recently,
so he's he's kind of working through some personal stuff.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You talked about the switch of being offensive minded.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But yeah, backer defense just like to see him with
this offense.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Man, I've been I've been impressed with Tyson. I thought,
like you said, today made some really good competitive plays.
He's getting more and more comfortable playing with his hands
at the line of scrimmage, trusting his physicality. He does
have long arms and good length, and obviously the speed
and athleticism shows up. I thought he made some really
good plays on the ball, and he kind of has
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all throughout OTAs. But I've been really pleased with his approach,
the way that he's practiced, the way that he's taken coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I've been really pleased with Tyson so far.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Thanks guys, the GM Glastone. He just told me just
be honestly, So that's all I am. That's all I'm
trying to do is just bey I am. You know,
get the guys the nuggets of knowledge that I have.
That's it really, just beat myself out there and play
good ball and and the rest of take care of himself.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
What's it like trying to gover Travis Hunter on one
day and then being in line with him getting reps
than that.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
No, he he's he's very energetic man. He he's very
shifty and when he gets the ball he can go. So,
I mean, he's very he's a he's a very special talent.
It's just you know, holding those things in, especially on
the defensive end, just understanding what.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We like to do and different techniques.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
But he he's very he has the aptitude to understand,
you know, how to do it on offense and defense,
and I I believe he can get it done.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What is he just going up against Ryan Thomas.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
And he's smooth. He's very smooth man for the for
his size. He he gets in and out of his
brakes really quickly. I think he wanted the top guys
that I I I've regarded honestly, and I feel like
he he can get better.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And he's a very young guy. And uh, I feel
like he this guy's a limit.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Film already said, Uh, you're coaching him up after every rep?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What?
Speaker 9 (14:48):
What a he? What have you been telling him? What
have you seen from him? Going in New Year too? Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, just like I said, he he kind of raw,
just like Travis.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Just you know, just trying to make sure he he's
technically sounding st the things that you know, Coach Malow
is telling us to do. Just making sure that he
he gets those things and and he's he's definitely a
special athlete, but you know, just making sure he he's
technically signed out there every single time. But he he's
one of those guys that can play for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
How important is it to.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
You to take on that kind of leadership role with
some of the younger guys.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
Yeah, very important, cause, uh when I was coming into
the league, I've never really had a guy that you know,
took me under my wing, on his wing and and
tell me exactly what the dude to do is and
duncon in the league, and I just want those guys
to you know, understand that you know, I'm I'm here
for him, I'm I'm in their corner, so you know,
just being a guy that I wanted when I was
a rookie, just trying to get 'em any types of nuggets.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Uh, I I have to make him a better football player.
So that's really that's really it. Honestly, you've seen some
of your versative to the inside, and I don't just
wind it up anywhere on the disorders at it. It's
it's cool. I've been playing more so, you know, inside here.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
But it's it's cool that, you know, cause my little
give me give me some reps outside and you know,
you know, getting adjusted to the defense.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And understanding how how we wanna play.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
But I I feel like I I can do both
here honestly, So I'm I'm excited to see, you know,
what they they they want me to do on the
defensive end, but I'm I'm here for the challenge, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So I'm I'm willing'em do whatever and you know, make
this defense better. Very intense, very intense.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, So he coached at Michigan too, So it's a
few ties that we have.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
And all the guys that you know coach, I mean,
played with him or played under him. They love him,
and so do I love you know, his energy and
his passionate, his passion for the game, and you know,
his his attention to detail, you know, just the techniques
and the different calls and stuff like that, and the
love he has for his players. You can already tell
that he loves us and he wants to go out
there and play really good football.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And I feel like we gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Anything else.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
Thanks short from the offense and the guys that I
guess as they try and kind of get it under
their belts, a lot of them been talking about just
how many layers there is to learn.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of details that the guys
are working at. We're getting down. Uh, the progress is
one of those things that's incremental. It's day by day,
and then you kind of look back after a week
or two weeks or three weeks and recognize how much
you've really moved from that initial starting point. So it's
hard to notice some of that progress on a day
to day basis because it is so incremental. It's one percent,
two percent, three percent here and there. But when you
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add it up at the end, you turn around and
you have something something to be proud about or now.
As opposed to OTAs and Manward, I think just the
culmination of everything you've worked towards, really that level of mastery.
Even if you're not at mastery, you're working towards that
level of mastery that some of the guys have probably
talked about trying to get it automatic. Just that play speed,
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that processing speed, the way they work, that thing speeding
up when they're out on the field. I think you
look at that their level of execution and operation, the
details that show up. It's a bunch of little things
that go into it, but really it's everything that you're
working towards. Everything matters out there, So there's not one
thing in particular, but you would like to see all
of that stuff to continue to evolve.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Are you starting to see the young guys kind.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Of settle away?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
How they have like a found dozen practices.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
On the go.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think there are flashes here and there.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I think it's probably on an individual basis, but it's
good to see the guys. You guys saw some of
the younger guys out there making place today. It's good
to see them get the opportunities and flash when their
numbers call.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Is it tough to get a feel where the running
backs and the running game are at at this time
of the year.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
No pads, that kind of that's always difficult. That's kind
of the nature of the Beasts at this time of
year without the offensive line with pads on. Defensive line,
without pads on, there's not true holes. You're not declaring blocks.
So it's easy to second guess the guys or say
this was a sack, this was a bad run, this
was a good run.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But that's kind of the nature of practicing during this
time of the year.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I just talk to brenton straight.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
He said, heresys to take more of the leadership role
this season.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What have you seen from him so far?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
I think he's his work ethic first and foremost is
hopefully a leadership attribute that the guys can model and
see what he does on a day to day basis.
But I think from a leadership standpoint and just from
a player's standpoint, you see a guy with a lot
of potential to continue to grow, whether it's in the
past game, the run game. I got with a lot
of physical traits that can be that balanced tight end
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and do a lot of different things that this offense
will ask him to do. I think the encouraging thing
is the type of guy he is in the he works.
If he continues to work at it, you see the
potential and you see the opportunity for growth, not just
throughout this spring, but hopefully into training camp and beyond.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's just got report on DV Travis.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
I know I like him a lot better on the
other side of the ball. That's about the end of
my scouting report. Yeah, just get him on the other
side of the ball. I'll enjoy it much more on
Sundays when he's not going against us.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
How is the Trevor hunder progress made before starting off?
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Some things, I think he's progressed in a lot of ways.
I think first and foremost learning the offense. Like we
talked about, it's a lot to learn. There are a
lot of layers, a lot of details, and that can
hinder a guy's play speed or processing speed. And I
think as he's continued to work at that and study,
you see the effect that it has physically in terms
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of playing fast, confidence and comfortability, taking drops, techniques, fundamentals
those types of things that show up on seven on
seven or team periods that might be easier to see
on the field. But I think the mental growth as
well as that physical growth, whether it's individual period, those
fundamentals that were working, you know on all in all
has come together to a level of comfortability that will
be closer to what we get on game day. But
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I think he knows, we all know that's still not
to where ultimately he can be. So it's a work
in progress. But you know, I'm appreciative of the work
he's put in thus far. And you kind of have
a little conversations in distiny read so just what is
it like being able to kind.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Of course correct in that moment rather than you know,
obviously you're going to watch the people look at the film,
but have those little boments.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, there are little things here and there.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Some are better done immediately after the place, some are
better done in the meeting room or at the end
of practice, or whenever the time is right. But he's
been really good about taking coaching and progressing and learning
from one rep to the next, taking each rep as
its own. So fortunate to have a guy who's willing
to do that in order to improve on a rep
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to rep basis, or play to play basi, or even
rack to rack in between periods. Well, I got that
question last time, thankfully, I actually have a planned now.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Uh, he does not.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
I don't know the phone situation exactly yet, so I'm
still doing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Some of the logistics.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
I have flights booked and a bunch of stuff booked,
but I don't have everything booked yet. But yeah, I'm
excited for the excited for the summer.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Cool,
This is where I'm starting.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's you I love to go this year, and it's
kind of kind of what the goal is, I mean
goal for everybody you know, but this one is attainable.
So uh yeah, and honestly a big thanks to James
and me and them talked about this before, but you know,
I haven't done a thing for him. That's kind of
what's cool about to me is he he just got
here and he had enough faith in me to key around.
So that definitely is a lot better.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
How long have they negotiations going on?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Too long? But no, I'm not. Everyone's been great to
work with obviously.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
When uh, you know, he loved the place and the
places seem to love you back, it kind of kind.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Of goes pretty easy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But man, between this high score recruit and I kind
of just wanted to play football pun fish, So I
don't like dealing with all that stuff, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Me like the leagues, highest state parks on the team.
Yet that yeah, I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
If someone tells me money don't matter, they're going this
is someone you know, two boys and awesome wife.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
The boring plays. So when you start talking about finances
when it's just you. That's kind of different.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But then when you have a you know, people behind
you and kids that you're raising up, it doesn't mean
a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
How well physically you feel as good as you ever have.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'd be thirty next month and I still swinging it
and I feel you know, I'm not saying I feel
like I did when I was twenty one, but you know,
as far as consistency and feeling very comfortable on the field, Uh,
that's that's kind of where I'm at right now. And
I'm trying to keep that, keep that consistent feel and
try to keep everything as simple as possible.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
And that's kind of the goal.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You trying to the faith that Leaves showed in you.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Uh, you know, he kept you Ross and Cam and
the coordinators. So uh is that a recognition that that
that phase of the team was was too good to
pass up or.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Too good to Yeah, I mean I think before we
even changed changed, uh, you know, leadership roles. You know,
before we got got James here, there was a lot
of conversation had between me and people who were still
here at the time that was hey, like, I don't
care what happens.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I know there's a lot of change coming.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
But as long as this guy stays like that's that's
everyone in the room wants that and talking about Heath
and you know Heath his three years here you said
three Pro Bowlers every year. I think that's testament to him.
And obviously our scheme puts people in good positions to
make plays.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Coming off a career year, where do you see some
marginal improvement? Where would you like to see the next step?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, you know, I had had a game I'd love
to have back last year, and I think it is
as a when you get to I guess a mature
player in the NFL that you can have bad plays,
but not bad games. And I think cutting out those
bad games. There's one game in Vegas last year that
just it's not how punt and I've they came to
a point like the fourth quarter. I told Ross as
they did, we got to stop punting because I just
(02:35):
we need to go home, you know, And I can't
have those those games. And I think my goal is,
you know, just have some bad plays, but keep the
bad games from having.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yes, thank you all, Jack coach. The three guys, did
you see enough that made you feel like we can't
break this group up.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Yeah, it was important after you know, talking to people
once I once I actually got the job, and then
you start to watch a little bit more film on
special teams and watch our specialists and how they operated.
Then you obviously start talking to the people in the building,
and not only about Heath and Luke, but obviously about
the guys and and just the professionalism, the way that
(03:13):
they practice, the way that they go about their business.
And then obviously when you turn the tape on and
you see the weapons that they are as specialists, that's
that's a part of the game that man, when you
don't have those assets, it's a difficult game at times,
especially when you got to be able to flip the
field and play field position when you need to be
(03:34):
able to get points from a longer distance. So, you know,
that was really important. It was critical to keep that
continuity together. And so far have been nothing but please
with these guys.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Did you ask that of these guys, is that your
goal for OTAs to be a little different than a
mini camp.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
And yeah, we just you know, tightened the racks down
a little bit in terms of the amount of repetitions
and just up the competes a little bit. I thought
they did a job today within that still taking care
of each other, practicing the right way. Yes, we umped
the level up, the level of competition, but you didn't
see a million people banging into each other or guys
(04:13):
getting banged up, and it was cleaner. I was a
little concerned with that, and that's obviously not what we're
trying to get accomplished out of these next few days.
But yeah, we were keeping score on the competition phase
of it, and it was really the red zone and
the third down periods we kind of kept score and
just try to make it a little bit more fun
for him. You know, at the end of the day,
(04:33):
these guys, when you have it on a script, that
becomes a little monotonous forum. And so we're trying to
do as much call it periods as we can for
us as coaches. But also I think the players enjoy
it a little bit more for them to just go
play and not be you know, previewing a script.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Do you think you have as line?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
Yeah, I thought there was a little bit more of
a rush today, which was great to seem from one aspect,
And like I was just talking to Tony about this
just now it's it's actually the worst time to play
offensive line because there's no surface area to touch, and
as much as we'd love to not admit, there's holding
(05:11):
that does occur in a in a you know, professional way,
and so it's really difficult to play offensive line in
these competitive situations that are primarily drop back past situations.
So really not judging them by any means. But although
it was nice to see some of that juice off
(05:32):
the edge and our d line getting going a little bit.
That was nice to see because we really haven't not
necessarily seen it. We have, but more so haven't been
in those settings as much, and so it was definitely
good to see. And but if I was in OL
in this setting, I'd be kind of annoyed.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Along the line.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Just you talked about before having competition in that room.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I know it's not training camp yet, but just what
have you seen from that competition in within that group?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, I think it's more.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
The competes for me have been more Okay, after we
throw a pass maybe ten yards down the field, are
they bursting to go get down the field to go
practice the right habits that are going to hopefully continue
on through training camp through the season and be just
like our style of play, the way that we want
those guys to play. It's very difficult, like you mentioned,
(06:27):
to see an actual physicality within either the run game
or the pass pro in these settings.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
But I think from a repetition.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Standpoint when you talk about competition, that we've got a
lot of guys some quality competitive reps with both the
first group, second group, and third group, and so that's
been nice to have and knowing that, Okay, we're gonna
really hold off on the judgment specifically on the front
until we get the pads on. But I think you know,
(06:58):
Sean Khale and try you know, Mental Sin have done
a nice job coaching that group up, and those guys
have taken to it, They've taken to the competition, and ultimately, uh, well,
we'll wait to hold off on some of those judgments
till we get to training camp.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Ever had a sleeve on today, first time I believe
in OTAs was there is there anything going on there?
Speaker 6 (07:18):
No, I think he just had a little bit of
just general soreness. You know, we we threw a lot
of balls kind of last.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Week and really leaned up into you know, he feels good,
he said. He said, it wasn't really an issue.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
It was more sometimes when you just have something to
keep it warm, just helps, you know, any type of thrower.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
So I think that was more just maintenance than it
is anything that's really bothering them. S.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Yeah, he's another one that just works his tail off
every day. Like if you were to ask Campy one
of the guys that he really has a lot of
appreciation for. Specifically obviously as a defensive core ordinator is
Brenton strange. Just the way that he practices when he
does get his hands on you when he is blocking,
(08:07):
he's physical, he's violent. Uh, he has some explosive movements.
He's got strong hands. So, you know, I've been really
pleased with with Brenton. I do believe that he's ready
to take a step and you saw it last year
kind of taking some steps forward, and I've been really
pleased with his efforts so far.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
That thought revolve because you just talk about his growth
from the time he's got here to Nount.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Yeah, I think, you know, both physically and mentally, there's
been some growth. You know, I saw some muscles coming
out of his arms, and you know, he looks. No,
he's done a great job, you know, and like I
said in the weight room, with the you know, conditioning,
he's doing multiple.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Meetings a day.
Speaker 6 (08:50):
You know, I'd have to go back and watch the
tape and see how he actually performed. But as you know,
like on defense, as a dB, usually if they're not
calling your name, it's typically a good thing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So I'll have to go back and watch.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
But I think he's done a nice job in terms
of communicating with the guys. He has a little bit
of a benefit of knowing some of our plays in
some ways, but I don't think that's made any changes.
But maybe like formationally, he can anticipate maybe a little
bit more, but he's also a little bit behind obviously
from a terminology and defensive communication. I thought he did
(09:26):
a good job, and he integrates himself so well with
those guys no matter what.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So I think he's had some progress for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Easily it seems like he's able to jump back and forth. Yeah,
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Guess a little bit because it's something you don't see
every day, right, So for him though, it just seems
pretty like normal, right, And so I think what helps
him kind of do things right. A lot is that
he's so well conditioned that from a mental fatigue standpoint
(10:00):
doesn't seem to occur all that much out here where.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
He can kind of just run.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
You know, he's been in altitude for a few years now,
and but he is in very good, you know, physical
shape when it comes to just being able to run
all day, and that's something that ultimately, once your legs
start to go, the mind starts to go, and you
don't really see that all that.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Often with him.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
He just keeps going, and so that's been exciting to see,
and that's gonna he's gonna have to lean into that
as he goes here and the reps start to go
up and he starts to play maybe offense and defense
on the same.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Day, which will occur in training camp.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
So yeah, it's definitely a little bit surprising because you
haven't seen it too much.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
For many camp that you weren't necessarily looking for during OTAs.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yeah, I think just a little bit uptick in the competition,
just just trying to put them in some more game
like situations, where as maybe the majority of OTAs, even
though we do situational football every day, it's typically in
a jog through setting a little bit slower paced. We've
(11:10):
been mainly operating either off of a script or call
it periods of you know, first down, second down, third down,
red zone, but went a little bit more specific today
in the red zone with like third and ten on
the ten, third and seven on the seven. Those got
to habit type situations and then obviously ended with some
two minute.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Work as well.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
So trying to simulate a little bit more game like competition,
game like situations, put them in some more pressure, let
the mind go a little bit more as the fatigue
starts to set in, and try to create as much
sameness as we can to a game.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
You're a little bit.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
More excitement today knowing your full team was out here.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
I mean, I think we've had phenomenal attendance throughout the
entire offseason. I'll say, you know, I really appreciate that
from our guy the amount that they've been here voluntarily
and now obviously being in a mandatory time, that it's
been kind of normal, right, Like, we've had such good
attendance that the majority of the guys have been here
(12:13):
the entire time, and but you definitely felt it a
little bit more yesterday in the team meeting where you
truly have everybody all in there together, you're going over
the schedule of the week and the expectations. I just
felt maybe a little bit more of a serious approach
in some ways to these next few days. And and
it is a longer day, like we'll have these guys
(12:34):
for the remainder of the day, we'll end with a
walkthrough in the afternoon, which will simulate our cadence and
rhythm for training camp.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
And that was That's what the goal is here for
these three days. Get them into a rhythm and routine.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Of kind of what we're gonna do for training camp
and have everybody in here together camp.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Ye, no show.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Is he excused?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Is he?
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Is he?
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Is he?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah? I think he's he's excused for sure. Absolutely. Yeah,
he's got it.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
He just uh had a actually had a baby recently,
so he's he's kind of working through some personal stuff.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
You talked about the switch of being offensive minded.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
But yeah, backer defense just like to see him with
this offense.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Man, I've been I've been impressed with Tyson. I thought,
like you said, today made some really good competitive plays.
He's getting more and more comfortable playing with his hands
at the line of scrimmage, trusting his physicality. He does
have long arms and good length, and obviously the speed
and athleticism shows up. I thought he made some really
good plays on the ball, and he kind of has
(13:38):
all throughout OTAs. But I've been really pleased with his approach,
the way that he's practiced, the way that he's taken coaching.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I've been really pleased with Tyson so far.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
Thanks guys, the GM Glastone. He just told me just
be honestly, So that's all I am. That's all I'm
trying to do is just bey I am. You know,
get the guys the nuggets of knowledge that I have.
That's it really, just beat myself out there and play
good ball and and the rest of take care of himself.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
What's it like trying to gover Travis Hunter on one
day and then being in line with him getting reps
than that.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
No, he he's he's very energetic man. He he's very
shifty and when he gets the ball he can go. So,
I mean, he's very he's a he's a very special talent.
It's just you know, holding those things in, especially on
the defensive end, just understanding what.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
We like to do and different techniques.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
But he he's very he has the aptitude to understand,
you know, how to do it on offense and defense,
and I I believe he can get it done.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
What is he just going up against Ryan Thomas.
Speaker 8 (14:30):
And he's smooth. He's very smooth man for the for
his size. He he gets in and out of his
brakes really quickly. I think he wanted the top guys
that I I I've regarded honestly, and I feel like
he he can get better.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
And he's a very young guy. And uh, I feel
like he this guy's a limit.
Speaker 9 (14:44):
Film already said, Uh, you're coaching him up after every rep?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
What?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What?
Speaker 9 (14:48):
What a he? What have you been telling him? What
have you seen from him? Going in New Year too? Uh?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, just like I said, he he kind of raw,
just like Travis.
Speaker 8 (14:54):
Just you know, just trying to make sure he he's
technically sounding st the things that you know, Coach Malow
is telling us to do. Just making sure that he
he gets those things and and he's he's definitely a
special athlete, but you know, just making sure he he's
technically signed out there every single time. But he he's
one of those guys that can play for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
How important is it to.
Speaker 9 (15:09):
You to take on that kind of leadership role with
some of the younger guys.
Speaker 8 (15:11):
Yeah, very important, cause, uh when I was coming into
the league, I've never really had a guy that you know,
took me under my wing, on his wing and and
tell me exactly what the dude to do is and
duncon in the league, and I just want those guys
to you know, understand that you know, I'm I'm here
for him, I'm I'm in their corner, so you know,
just being a guy that I wanted when I was
a rookie, just trying to get 'em any types of nuggets.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Uh, I I have to make him a better football player.
So that's really that's really it. Honestly, you've seen some
of your versative to the inside, and I don't just
wind it up anywhere on the disorders at it. It's
it's cool. I've been playing more so, you know, inside here.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
But it's it's cool that, you know, cause my little
give me give me some reps outside and you know,
you know, getting adjusted to the defense.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
And understanding how how we wanna play.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
But I I feel like I I can do both
here honestly, So I'm I'm excited to see, you know,
what they they they want me to do on the
defensive end, but I'm I'm here for the challenge, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So I'm I'm willing'em do whatever and you know, make
this defense better. Very intense, very intense.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, So he coached at Michigan too, So it's a
few ties that we have.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
And all the guys that you know coach, I mean,
played with him or played under him. They love him,
and so do I love you know, his energy and
his passionate, his passion for the game, and you know,
his his attention to detail, you know, just the techniques
and the different calls and stuff like that, and the
love he has for his players. You can already tell
that he loves us and he wants to go out
there and play really good football.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
And I feel like we gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Anything else.
Speaker 9 (16:33):
Thanks short from the offense and the guys that I
guess as they try and kind of get it under
their belts, a lot of them been talking about just
how many layers there is to learn.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
Yeah, there's definitely a lot of details that the guys
are working at. We're getting down. Uh, the progress is
one of those things that's incremental. It's day by day,
and then you kind of look back after a week
or two weeks or three weeks and recognize how much
you've really moved from that initial starting point. So it's
hard to notice some of that progress on a day
to day basis because it is so incremental. It's one percent,
two percent, three percent here and there. But when you
(17:03):
add it up at the end, you turn around and
you have something something to be proud about or now.
As opposed to OTAs and Manward, I think just the
culmination of everything you've worked towards, really that level of mastery.
Even if you're not at mastery, you're working towards that
level of mastery that some of the guys have probably
talked about trying to get it automatic. Just that play speed,
(17:25):
that processing speed, the way they work, that thing speeding
up when they're out on the field. I think you
look at that their level of execution and operation, the
details that show up. It's a bunch of little things
that go into it, but really it's everything that you're
working towards. Everything matters out there, So there's not one
thing in particular, but you would like to see all
of that stuff to continue to evolve.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Are you starting to see the young guys kind.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Of settle away?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
How they have like a found dozen practices.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
On the go.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think there are flashes here and there.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I think it's probably on an individual basis, but it's
good to see the guys. You guys saw some of
the younger guys out there making place today. It's good
to see them get the opportunities and flash when their
numbers call.
Speaker 9 (18:00):
Is it tough to get a feel where the running
backs and the running game are at at this time
of the year.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
No pads, that kind of that's always difficult. That's kind
of the nature of the Beasts at this time of
year without the offensive line with pads on. Defensive line,
without pads on, there's not true holes. You're not declaring blocks.
So it's easy to second guess the guys or say
this was a sack, this was a bad run, this
was a good run.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
But that's kind of the nature of practicing during this
time of the year.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I just talk to brenton straight.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
He said, heresys to take more of the leadership role
this season.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
What have you seen from him so far?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
I think he's his work ethic first and foremost is
hopefully a leadership attribute that the guys can model and
see what he does on a day to day basis.
But I think from a leadership standpoint and just from
a player's standpoint, you see a guy with a lot
of potential to continue to grow, whether it's in the
past game, the run game. I got with a lot
of physical traits that can be that balanced tight end
(18:54):
and do a lot of different things that this offense
will ask him to do. I think the encouraging thing
is the type of guy he is in the he works.
If he continues to work at it, you see the
potential and you see the opportunity for growth, not just
throughout this spring, but hopefully into training camp and beyond.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's just got report on DV Travis.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
I know I like him a lot better on the
other side of the ball. That's about the end of
my scouting report. Yeah, just get him on the other
side of the ball. I'll enjoy it much more on
Sundays when he's not going against us.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
How is the Trevor hunder progress made before starting off?
Speaker 7 (19:24):
Some things, I think he's progressed in a lot of ways.
I think first and foremost learning the offense. Like we
talked about, it's a lot to learn. There are a
lot of layers, a lot of details, and that can
hinder a guy's play speed or processing speed. And I
think as he's continued to work at that and study,
you see the effect that it has physically in terms
(19:44):
of playing fast, confidence and comfortability, taking drops, techniques, fundamentals
those types of things that show up on seven on
seven or team periods that might be easier to see
on the field. But I think the mental growth as
well as that physical growth, whether it's individual period, those
fundamentals that were working, you know on all in all
has come together to a level of comfortability that will
be closer to what we get on game day. But
(20:06):
I think he knows, we all know that's still not
to where ultimately he can be. So it's a work
in progress. But you know, I'm appreciative of the work
he's put in thus far. And you kind of have
a little conversations in distiny read so just what is
it like being able to kind.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Of course correct in that moment rather than you know,
obviously you're going to watch the people look at the film,
but have those little boments.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, there are little things here and there.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Some are better done immediately after the place, some are
better done in the meeting room or at the end
of practice, or whenever the time is right. But he's
been really good about taking coaching and progressing and learning
from one rep to the next, taking each rep as
its own. So fortunate to have a guy who's willing
to do that in order to improve on a rep
(20:48):
to rep basis, or play to play basi, or even
rack to rack in between periods. Well, I got that
question last time, thankfully, I actually have a planned now.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Uh, he does not.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
I don't know the phone situation exactly yet, so I'm
still doing.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Some of the logistics.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
I have flights booked and a bunch of stuff booked,
but I don't have everything booked yet. But yeah, I'm
excited for the excited for the summer.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Cool,
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