June 2, 2025 • 21 mins
In this special episode of The Leadership Vision Podcast, Dr. Linda and Brian Schubring reflect on the year-long journey to writing and launching their new book, Unfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami Crane. Recorded during a return to the lakeside cabin where they finished their manuscript one year ago, this conversation is a deeply personal and emotional look at collaboration, creativity, and what it means to bring a dream to life.
What You’ll Hear:
- How Unfolded came to be during one intense week in Minnesota
- The emotional moments of sharing the book with family
- Lessons learned about writing, leadership, and transformation
- Why endings and beginnings are both worth honoring
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Get excited it's book launch week you are listening
to the Leadership Vision Podcast, our show helping you build
positive team culture.
Hello everyone, my name isNathan Friberg and today we're
doing something a little bitdifferent on the podcast.
Here You're about to hear acandid and heartfelt
conversation between Dr Lindaand Brian Schubring that they
(00:21):
recorded as they were cominghome from a week away.
They're in the car so the audioquality is not the best, but
they're reflecting on all thethings that have happened in
this past year as they have beenworking on their book Unfolded
Lessons in Transformation froman Origami Crane, which launches
this week, june 4th.
(00:41):
Go grab your copy if youhaven't gotten one already.
They just reflect on theemotional journey of writing
together, the people who haveshaped their story and the
moments that brought it all tolife.
If you haven't picked up yourcopy yet, now is the time.
You can order it by clickingthe link in the show notes or,
honestly, anywhere good booksare sold.
Unfolded Lessons inTransformation from an Origami
(01:04):
Crane is an allegory about anorigami crane's dream of
becoming a paper plane.
It imparts a philosophy andstrategy that will help you
really any leaders in anycapacity meet their full
potential, cultivate betterrelationships and grow their
leadership capacity.
This is a great book.
It is not your traditionalbusiness book, but it's really
(01:26):
applicable to anyone who justhas a dream, wants to transform,
wants to do something differentand maybe doesn't quite know
how to get there.
So pick up your copy today andthen we would love it if you
could take a picture of yourselfholding it.
Maybe share a reflection online.
Tag us as we take part in thisunfolding journey together.
(01:47):
Enjoy.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
We have just spent the last week in a place that we
love, that is connected tofamily, by a lake, and by a lake
that my grandparents used tolive on, and it's been a year.
What happened last year?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Last year we rented a lakeside home, and a year ago,
it was during this same week,linda and I finished the
manuscript and that's amanuscript that was ready to be
submitted to a publisher,finished the manuscript and
that's a manuscript that wasready to be submitted to a
publisher.
And a year ago this week waswhen we also figured out how our
(02:31):
writing relationship was goingto take place, and that writing
relationship reflects therelationship between elton john
and bernie topple, where berniewill write amazing lyrics and
hand those lyrics to Elton andElton will add the music, add
the feel, all the music stuff,the emotion, the glitter, the
(02:55):
dynamic, the glasses, theshowmanship, all that.
And so a year ago I had takenthe manuscript as far as I was
going to take it and then handedit to Linda, and basically each
day, linda rewrote and workedwith the chapters that I had
written and by the time the daywas over, we had a finished
(03:18):
chapter.
And we did that for five daysin a row and finished all five
chapters and had a manuscriptready for submission.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, that's your version.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That's your version.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, I would say that you're the bigger diva in
the relationship, however, sothere's plenty of Elton John in
you.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But when it comes to collaboration, I think I agree
with you.
I remember you were writingthis book on your own and I
realized that I could no longeredit in your voice that it had
to be somebody else helping you,or we figure out a way to do it
together, and I'm so glad wedid, because I think Unfolded is
(04:00):
a reflection of how we workwith clients, how we inspire
leaders, how do we interact withour family, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, it's all that and part of the catalyst for
this week happening a year ago.
Part of the influence that wewere receiving was from people
who were getting a first glimpseat what we were actually
working on, and they were askingus questions about the
characters, the dynamic betweenthe characters, how the
characters got along, and peoplewere just asking for something
(04:33):
maybe more deeper or more animethan what we were going for.
So that was part of what wasinspiring us to make a real
strong investment a year ago.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I think it was part inspiration, part instigation,
Because without that sharpeningI don't know if the book would
be where it is right now?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So we spent that week on the way home from the lake
in Minnesota.
We agreed to work with a bookagency as well.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's an example of how much that week meant to us,
because when we arrived inAlexandria we didn't have a
finished manuscript, we didn'thave a publishing agency, we
didn't have a book deal.
We didn't have any of that Right.
And so to think of whathappened in the six days that
we're up here, we finished amanuscript.
And so to think of whathappened in the six days that
(05:30):
we're up here, we finished amanuscript and as we were
driving through those little,tiny, beautiful town of
Alexandria, minnesota, we wereon a call with Book Highlight
was going to be the publishingagency that was working with us.
That also happened during thisweek last year.
So for us it's a realsignificant timing because a
(05:55):
year later we have a publishedbook in our hands, we are still
working with Book Highlight,finishing up all the pre-launch
details, and we have a book dealwith Wiley Publishing.
So to think about this year asa full circle, I just wouldn't
have thought a year ago, aswe're leaving Alexandria, that
(06:15):
all of this would have happenedby now.
I thought it would push offinto like the fall of this year
or later.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
A lot can happen in a year and I would say that we
have lived the story andapproach and strategy of
Unfolded in our own lives.
We have learned so much aboutwriting a book.
If there's anyone that wants tohear more or wants to hear our
(06:41):
lessons learned, which meansthings that we didn't know or we
wish we would have known or thethings we didn't know.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We didn't know anything I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So shout out to book highlight.
They are a phenomenal agencyand I can't be more thankful for
their impact as well as theopportunity to meet them and
film some of those videostogether.
They're just a class act.
So here we are.
(07:12):
It's a year later and we hadscheduled this time away,
knowing that the book launch isapproaching, which is this week,
and as we began to plan thisweek, which was we planned
things kind of on the fly itcoincided with my mother's
birthday.
How old is your mom?
(07:32):
She's an octogenarian, I'm notgoing to say her exact age, you
don't ask that birthday and tobe able to give my mother a hard
copy of, unfolded in person, ona lake that my father loves.
(07:52):
I just felt his presence thereand I felt her enormous support
and care for us.
She was the first one to buybooks, she was the first one to.
She's often the first one tolike, share and subscribe to our
podcasts or posts.
So, mom, shout out to you, butthen, but wait, there's more,
(08:17):
because we got to share moreover the weekend.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, for this birthday party for G-Mom.
My parents also came up toAlexandria and so, too, did our
daughter.
So we were there as a family,and one of the highlights of
this week is going to be thetime that we spent on the deck
overlooking the lake as a family, and we had the chance to
(08:41):
individually hand a book to ourfamily members and say a few
words to them of appreciationfor how much they've influenced
our lives, how much they'vedemonstrated love and given us
direction, how they've eveninspired some of the characters.
This was a really, reallymeaningful moment to share with
our family, how much they meanto us around this celebration of
(09:03):
having our book published.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, so there were some words and then there were
just some sentiments.
I think I couldn't get anywords out giving the book to my
own Diane.
I think it was just tears and Ilove yous.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Once again I felt many family members that are no
longer with us close to us.
The memories of all the familymoments that we have spent by
that little lake just kind ofcame flooding back.
So I'm thankful for that.
And now we are getting ready tocelebrate the birth of Unfolded
(09:40):
.
Right before this weekend wereceived a package in the mail
from Wiley and Sons.
So I told Brian there is apackage from John, wiley and
Sons.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I asked who John is.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, I don't know what, john.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Who's John?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I didn't tell him to Google it, but that's kind of
what I was thinking, anyway.
So we received a package.
It was sitting on our doorstepafter we had returned from a
client engagement in SouthDakota.
So we are back home, we havedriven the whole way, it's
already dark, we're tired and Isee this box.
And so that box just stayed,stayed boxed overnight, and in
(10:20):
the morning, after all of ourcoaching, clients and calls that
we had, we took a few momentsand unboxed, unboxed, unfolded.
That was emotional.
What do you remember from that?
Right now?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
What I remember is About the unboxing.
Well, as far as I was concerned, I was holding my own dream
come true.
I've always thought that I wasgoing to write a book.
I mean ever since I was incollege.
I had no idea what I was evergoing to write on, and there
were a few moments in my lifewhere I thought, well, now's the
time to write a book.
So for me, that was probably thefirst thing that I was thinking
(10:56):
as we opened the book, or as weopened the box and saw the book
, my first thought was this isanother one of my dreams come
true.
And what I mistakenly thoughtin some of my early dreamings of
being an author is how much itwould have been completely
reliant on me, or basically likeI'm doing all the work.
(11:19):
And that is definitely not thecase of this in this process,
Because when I was opening upthe box, I realized just all the
people that could have hadtheir hands in that box reaching
for the books too, Because theyhad just as significant of a
role to play in this idea comingto life as I did to play in
(11:43):
this idea coming to life as Idid.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So true, and I think we wrote those people into the
story not just the story, but wedefinitely kept the people that
have influenced us, inspired us, meaning our clients, our loved
ones have really shaped theproduct.
That is Unsold it.
Now, what I would add as wellis one of the first names that I
, the first names I saw, wereour, who we dedicated the book
(12:06):
to, and that is our parents, aswell as camilla and our nephews.
And then, to turn the page andsee the foreword by deb dixon, I
felt like I was on anotherplanet.
Deb represents a leader whowanted to make a specific
(12:28):
investment in her people, who isobsessed with excellence, who
truly believes that revealingthe identity of people and
shining light of the brillianceof people will make the world a
better place.
In her partnership, I mean, shehas been that grandmother
(12:49):
that's in the room when hergrandbabies were birthed.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Literally.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, so what better?
Midwife?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
She wasn't really a midwife, I know.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Okay, no, she was making this happen.
At one point the metaphor kindof breaks down.
But shout out to Deb Dixon forhelping us write this book.
We're excited to celebrate withher.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Here's something else I'm grateful for Yep, the book
came in the mail, we have thebooks in our hand.
And then we left town forMemorial Day weekend, the
birthday celebration and ourwork week away.
What I think I'm grateful fornow, as I'm looking back at the
last nine days, is because weleft home, got out of the city,
got out of our context.
(13:31):
I was able to be with the bookand savor the book and just
really be grateful for whatactually happened.
Because I think if we were athome still doing the same crazy
hours that we do every week, Iwouldn't have had a chance to be
with the book, to savor thebook in the place where a lot of
it was was birthed.
I wouldn't have had that.
And I just think that in myreflecting this week, I
(13:52):
committed to reflect what we didlast year.
Last year we wrote one chaptera day and this year I want to
read one chapter a day and limitmyself to just that.
So just before we left the lake,linda and I spent a few moments
just sitting on the dock ourbook in hand and just looking at
(14:13):
the beauty of nature, justtaking it all in.
And Linda asked me what I wasfeeling.
I didn't answer as a feeling.
I answered what I was thinking.
So what am I feeling about?
What I said was I really feel asense of completion, that one
circle has gone all the wayaround it and connected and one
(14:33):
era of our lives has ended.
I was also feeling a sense offear and uncertainty because I
know all too well that, as we'resitting on that dock, a new
circle is starting, and everytime I face a new beginning, I
face that new beginning withwell, anticipation and
excitement, but I'm also sharingthe feeling of true fear and
(14:58):
self-doubt.
I question if I have theability for whatever's next.
I question whether we have thetalent or the skills to face
whatever challenges are coming.
And I also wonder what are wegoing to say a year from now, as
we're sitting on a dock andlooking at the last year and
thinking, wow, we had no ideahow far we'd go.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And I see it as opportunity.
We sat on the dock holding ourbook.
I was looking left and left isthis magical playground that was
donated by, maybe, the LionsClub of Alexandria.
Anyway, it's an epic playground.
All different kinds of ways toplay, slides, to suites, to a
(15:43):
zip line, and I was there earlyenough that there were no
children out at this morning.
And so to sit on the dockholding our book, looking over
at the playground across thelake and beginning to wonder
where will the playgrounds bethat we'll be in this year?
What will we learn?
How do we say thank?
Where will the playgrounds bethat we'll be in this year?
(16:04):
What will we learn?
How do we say thank you to theplaygrounds we have been in and
be welcomed into a new space?
I think we have opportunity.
I think we are thrilled toshare on Folded the world.
We anticipate your feedback,your insights, the ways that you
will take this allegory andapply it to your life, and let
(16:28):
your life and your lived wisdomspeak to you.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Maybe one of the things that I'm afraid of, or
not even sure what the feelingword is, or I'm not even sure
what the feeling word is.
What I know is that, as thisnew circle is beginning, I'm
going to be saying goodbye toworking relationships that I've
drawn really close to in thelast year.
I'm going to be saying goodbyeto certain work patterns that
(16:53):
I've had to adopt and learn Overthe past year.
I'm going to be saying goodbyeto certain types of pressures,
goals and objectives that havebeen driving me and inspiring me
and frustrating me for the lastyear.
So there's a lot of, maybe,feeling of loss and letting go,
and I don't know if I do thatall too well, because each one
(17:15):
of the things I've mentioned isa breaking of a connection or
putting a pause on somethingmentioned is a breaking of a
connection or putting a pause onsomething.
And even though I've done myfair share of complaining about
the learning cycle that I've hadto go through in the last nine
months specifically, I'velearned a ton that I'll be able
to apply going forward, but theplayground or the place that
(17:35):
I've done all that learning iswith relationships that are
going to be changed.
So, when the relationships arenot going to be going forward,
other relationships are going torely on even more, with
relationships that are going tobe changed.
So when the relationships arenot going to come forward, other
relationships are going to relyon even more and new people are
going to be stepping in to helpus in this next phase.
So part of maybe the pain orthe loss that I'm feeling is
(17:55):
knowing that there are changescoming that I haven't quite
processed yet.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Well, I think you get attached that there are changes
coming that I haven't quiteprocessed yet.
Well, I think you get attachedand I think it has felt that the
stakes have been high and wecan be very proud of what we've
all done together.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But that's the part that I loved, because the stakes
were crazy high and I loved anytype of clear expectation.
I love the high bar.
Yeah, I love that type of clearexpectation.
I love the high bar.
I love that type of competition.
I love being around playersthat are excellent at what they
do, and I feel that's what thisseason has provided me is.
(18:32):
It's provided me an arenawithin which I can practice and
play and compete with peoplethat are putting chips in just
like I am.
I have felt that I have reallyfelt that pressure.
There's a lot of that that Iexcel at.
I also know that I've learnedsome of my weaknesses in that
process, because I've alsolearned about my own capacities
(18:55):
of not being able to go as hardas I want for as long as I eat,
and that's been a learning.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right.
Well, I would offer you, Brian,the wisdom that you shared with
one of our clients recently, asyou looked at the CEO and said
both can be true.
Oh, that's right.
And what are the boths?
Both can be true.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh, that's right.
And what are the boths?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Both can be true, that you love the high bar, the
pressure, the intensity, and atthe same time it was exhausting
and frustrating at times, and alot of times like being in the
dark, and we can hold thetensions of both.
Both can be true, both can betrue, and we often don't think
that while we're in it tensionsup Both, both can be true.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Both can be true, and we often don't think that while
we're in it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's true.
So please get a copy of Unfoldit Lessons in Transformation
from an Origami Cray by BrianSchubring and Linda Schubring,
and the spine of the book saysSchubring and shoobring, which
is really kind of fun.
Pick up your book, let us know.
Take a photo of you holdingyour book.
(20:06):
I would love to see that.
And continue with us on thisunfolded journey.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Now, as Linda and Brian shared, transformation
doesn't just happen.
It takes presence, reflectionand often a letting go of what
was.
So, whether you're startingsomething new or closing a
meaningful chapter, may thisconversation and this book
remind you that both can be trueGrowth and gratitude, grief and
joy, completion and beginning.
(20:36):
My name is Nathan Freeberg and,on behalf of our entire team,
thanks for listening.
Thank you for getting a copy ofUnfolded.
You can click the link in theshow notes or go to
leadershipvisionconsultingcom orshoobringscom and pick up your
copy today.
Get excited it's book launch week you are listening
to the Leadership Vision Podcast, our show helping you build
positive team culture.
Hello everyone, my name isNathan Friberg and today we're
doing something a little bitdifferent on the podcast.
Here You're about to hear acandid and heartfelt
conversation between Dr Lindaand Brian Schubring that they
(00:21):
recorded as they were cominghome from a week away.
They're in the car so the audioquality is not the best, but
they're reflecting on all thethings that have happened in
this past year as they have beenworking on their book Unfolded
Lessons in Transformation froman Origami Crane, which launches
this week, june 4th.
(00:41):
Go grab your copy if youhaven't gotten one already.
They just reflect on theemotional journey of writing
together, the people who haveshaped their story and the
moments that brought it all tolife.
If you haven't picked up yourcopy yet, now is the time.
You can order it by clickingthe link in the show notes or,
honestly, anywhere good booksare sold.
Unfolded Lessons inTransformation from an Origami
(01:04):
Crane is an allegory about anorigami crane's dream of
becoming a paper plane.
It imparts a philosophy andstrategy that will help you
really any leaders in anycapacity meet their full
potential, cultivate betterrelationships and grow their
leadership capacity.
This is a great book.
It is not your traditionalbusiness book, but it's really
(01:26):
applicable to anyone who justhas a dream, wants to transform,
wants to do something differentand maybe doesn't quite know
how to get there.
So pick up your copy today andthen we would love it if you
could take a picture of yourselfholding it.
Maybe share a reflection online.
Tag us as we take part in thisunfolding journey together.
(01:47):
Enjoy.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
We have just spent the last week in a place that we
love, that is connected tofamily, by a lake, and by a lake
that my grandparents used tolive on, and it's been a year.
What happened last year?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Last year we rented a lakeside home, and a year ago,
it was during this same week,linda and I finished the
manuscript and that's amanuscript that was ready to be
submitted to a publisher,finished the manuscript and
that's a manuscript that wasready to be submitted to a
publisher.
And a year ago this week waswhen we also figured out how our
(02:31):
writing relationship was goingto take place, and that writing
relationship reflects therelationship between elton john
and bernie topple, where berniewill write amazing lyrics and
hand those lyrics to Elton andElton will add the music, add
the feel, all the music stuff,the emotion, the glitter, the
(02:55):
dynamic, the glasses, theshowmanship, all that.
And so a year ago I had takenthe manuscript as far as I was
going to take it and then handedit to Linda, and basically each
day, linda rewrote and workedwith the chapters that I had
written and by the time the daywas over, we had a finished
(03:18):
chapter.
And we did that for five daysin a row and finished all five
chapters and had a manuscriptready for submission.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Okay, that's your version.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That's your version.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Well, I would say that you're the bigger diva in
the relationship, however, sothere's plenty of Elton John in
you.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
But when it comes to collaboration, I think I agree
with you.
I remember you were writingthis book on your own and I
realized that I could no longeredit in your voice that it had
to be somebody else helping you,or we figure out a way to do it
together, and I'm so glad wedid, because I think Unfolded is
(04:00):
a reflection of how we workwith clients, how we inspire
leaders, how do we interact withour family, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, it's all that and part of the catalyst for
this week happening a year ago.
Part of the influence that wewere receiving was from people
who were getting a first glimpseat what we were actually
working on, and they were askingus questions about the
characters, the dynamic betweenthe characters, how the
characters got along, and peoplewere just asking for something
(04:33):
maybe more deeper or more animethan what we were going for.
So that was part of what wasinspiring us to make a real
strong investment a year ago.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I think it was part inspiration, part instigation,
Because without that sharpeningI don't know if the book would
be where it is right now?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
No, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So we spent that week on the way home from the lake
in Minnesota.
We agreed to work with a bookagency as well.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's an example of how much that week meant to us,
because when we arrived inAlexandria we didn't have a
finished manuscript, we didn'thave a publishing agency, we
didn't have a book deal.
We didn't have any of that Right.
And so to think of whathappened in the six days that
we're up here, we finished amanuscript.
And so to think of whathappened in the six days that
(05:30):
we're up here, we finished amanuscript and as we were
driving through those little,tiny, beautiful town of
Alexandria, minnesota, we wereon a call with Book Highlight
was going to be the publishingagency that was working with us.
That also happened during thisweek last year.
So for us it's a realsignificant timing because a
(05:55):
year later we have a publishedbook in our hands, we are still
working with Book Highlight,finishing up all the pre-launch
details, and we have a book dealwith Wiley Publishing.
So to think about this year asa full circle, I just wouldn't
have thought a year ago, aswe're leaving Alexandria, that
(06:15):
all of this would have happenedby now.
I thought it would push offinto like the fall of this year
or later.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
A lot can happen in a year and I would say that we
have lived the story andapproach and strategy of
Unfolded in our own lives.
We have learned so much aboutwriting a book.
If there's anyone that wants tohear more or wants to hear our
(06:41):
lessons learned, which meansthings that we didn't know or we
wish we would have known or thethings we didn't know.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
We didn't know anything I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So shout out to book highlight.
They are a phenomenal agencyand I can't be more thankful for
their impact as well as theopportunity to meet them and
film some of those videostogether.
They're just a class act.
So here we are.
(07:12):
It's a year later and we hadscheduled this time away,
knowing that the book launch isapproaching, which is this week,
and as we began to plan thisweek, which was we planned
things kind of on the fly itcoincided with my mother's
birthday.
How old is your mom?
(07:32):
She's an octogenarian, I'm notgoing to say her exact age, you
don't ask that birthday and tobe able to give my mother a hard
copy of, unfolded in person, ona lake that my father loves.
(07:52):
I just felt his presence thereand I felt her enormous support
and care for us.
She was the first one to buybooks, she was the first one to.
She's often the first one tolike, share and subscribe to our
podcasts or posts.
So, mom, shout out to you, butthen, but wait, there's more,
(08:17):
because we got to share moreover the weekend.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah, for this birthday party for G-Mom.
My parents also came up toAlexandria and so, too, did our
daughter.
So we were there as a family,and one of the highlights of
this week is going to be thetime that we spent on the deck
overlooking the lake as a family, and we had the chance to
(08:41):
individually hand a book to ourfamily members and say a few
words to them of appreciationfor how much they've influenced
our lives, how much they'vedemonstrated love and given us
direction, how they've eveninspired some of the characters.
This was a really, reallymeaningful moment to share with
our family, how much they meanto us around this celebration of
(09:03):
having our book published.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, so there were some words and then there were
just some sentiments.
I think I couldn't get anywords out giving the book to my
own Diane.
I think it was just tears and Ilove yous.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Once again I felt many family members that are no
longer with us close to us.
The memories of all the familymoments that we have spent by
that little lake just kind ofcame flooding back.
So I'm thankful for that.
And now we are getting ready tocelebrate the birth of Unfolded
(09:40):
.
Right before this weekend wereceived a package in the mail
from Wiley and Sons.
So I told Brian there is apackage from John, wiley and
Sons.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I asked who John is.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, I don't know what, john.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Who's John?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I didn't tell him to Google it, but that's kind of
what I was thinking, anyway.
So we received a package.
It was sitting on our doorstepafter we had returned from a
client engagement in SouthDakota.
So we are back home, we havedriven the whole way, it's
already dark, we're tired and Isee this box.
And so that box just stayed,stayed boxed overnight, and in
(10:20):
the morning, after all of ourcoaching, clients and calls that
we had, we took a few momentsand unboxed, unboxed, unfolded.
That was emotional.
What do you remember from that?
Right now?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
What I remember is About the unboxing.
Well, as far as I was concerned, I was holding my own dream
come true.
I've always thought that I wasgoing to write a book.
I mean ever since I was incollege.
I had no idea what I was evergoing to write on, and there
were a few moments in my lifewhere I thought, well, now's the
time to write a book.
So for me, that was probably thefirst thing that I was thinking
(10:56):
as we opened the book, or as weopened the box and saw the book
, my first thought was this isanother one of my dreams come
true.
And what I mistakenly thoughtin some of my early dreamings of
being an author is how much itwould have been completely
reliant on me, or basically likeI'm doing all the work.
(11:19):
And that is definitely not thecase of this in this process,
Because when I was opening upthe box, I realized just all the
people that could have hadtheir hands in that box reaching
for the books too, Because theyhad just as significant of a
role to play in this idea comingto life as I did to play in
(11:43):
this idea coming to life as Idid.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So true, and I think we wrote those people into the
story not just the story, but wedefinitely kept the people that
have influenced us, inspired us, meaning our clients, our loved
ones have really shaped theproduct.
That is Unsold it.
Now, what I would add as wellis one of the first names that I
, the first names I saw, wereour, who we dedicated the book
(12:06):
to, and that is our parents, aswell as camilla and our nephews.
And then, to turn the page andsee the foreword by deb dixon, I
felt like I was on anotherplanet.
Deb represents a leader whowanted to make a specific
(12:28):
investment in her people, who isobsessed with excellence, who
truly believes that revealingthe identity of people and
shining light of the brillianceof people will make the world a
better place.
In her partnership, I mean, shehas been that grandmother
(12:49):
that's in the room when hergrandbabies were birthed.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Literally.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, so what better?
Midwife?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
She wasn't really a midwife, I know.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Okay, no, she was making this happen.
At one point the metaphor kindof breaks down.
But shout out to Deb Dixon forhelping us write this book.
We're excited to celebrate withher.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Here's something else I'm grateful for Yep, the book
came in the mail, we have thebooks in our hand.
And then we left town forMemorial Day weekend, the
birthday celebration and ourwork week away.
What I think I'm grateful fornow, as I'm looking back at the
last nine days, is because weleft home, got out of the city,
got out of our context.
(13:31):
I was able to be with the bookand savor the book and just
really be grateful for whatactually happened.
Because I think if we were athome still doing the same crazy
hours that we do every week, Iwouldn't have had a chance to be
with the book, to savor thebook in the place where a lot of
it was was birthed.
I wouldn't have had that.
And I just think that in myreflecting this week, I
(13:52):
committed to reflect what we didlast year.
Last year we wrote one chaptera day and this year I want to
read one chapter a day and limitmyself to just that.
So just before we left the lake,linda and I spent a few moments
just sitting on the dock ourbook in hand and just looking at
(14:13):
the beauty of nature, justtaking it all in.
And Linda asked me what I wasfeeling.
I didn't answer as a feeling.
I answered what I was thinking.
So what am I feeling about?
What I said was I really feel asense of completion, that one
circle has gone all the wayaround it and connected and one
(14:33):
era of our lives has ended.
I was also feeling a sense offear and uncertainty because I
know all too well that, as we'resitting on that dock, a new
circle is starting, and everytime I face a new beginning, I
face that new beginning withwell, anticipation and
excitement, but I'm also sharingthe feeling of true fear and
(14:58):
self-doubt.
I question if I have theability for whatever's next.
I question whether we have thetalent or the skills to face
whatever challenges are coming.
And I also wonder what are wegoing to say a year from now, as
we're sitting on a dock andlooking at the last year and
thinking, wow, we had no ideahow far we'd go.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
And I see it as opportunity.
We sat on the dock holding ourbook.
I was looking left and left isthis magical playground that was
donated by, maybe, the LionsClub of Alexandria.
Anyway, it's an epic playground.
All different kinds of ways toplay, slides, to suites, to a
(15:43):
zip line, and I was there earlyenough that there were no
children out at this morning.
And so to sit on the dockholding our book, looking over
at the playground across thelake and beginning to wonder
where will the playgrounds bethat we'll be in this year?
What will we learn?
How do we say thank?
Where will the playgrounds bethat we'll be in this year?
(16:04):
What will we learn?
How do we say thank you to theplaygrounds we have been in and
be welcomed into a new space?
I think we have opportunity.
I think we are thrilled toshare on Folded the world.
We anticipate your feedback,your insights, the ways that you
will take this allegory andapply it to your life, and let
(16:28):
your life and your lived wisdomspeak to you.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Maybe one of the things that I'm afraid of, or
not even sure what the feelingword is, or I'm not even sure
what the feeling word is.
What I know is that, as thisnew circle is beginning, I'm
going to be saying goodbye toworking relationships that I've
drawn really close to in thelast year.
I'm going to be saying goodbyeto certain work patterns that
(16:53):
I've had to adopt and learn Overthe past year.
I'm going to be saying goodbyeto certain types of pressures,
goals and objectives that havebeen driving me and inspiring me
and frustrating me for the lastyear.
So there's a lot of, maybe,feeling of loss and letting go,
and I don't know if I do thatall too well, because each one
(17:15):
of the things I've mentioned isa breaking of a connection or
putting a pause on somethingmentioned is a breaking of a
connection or putting a pause onsomething.
And even though I've done myfair share of complaining about
the learning cycle that I've hadto go through in the last nine
months specifically, I'velearned a ton that I'll be able
to apply going forward, but theplayground or the place that
(17:35):
I've done all that learning iswith relationships that are
going to be changed.
So, when the relationships arenot going to be going forward,
other relationships are going torely on even more, with
relationships that are going tobe changed.
So when the relationships arenot going to come forward, other
relationships are going to relyon even more and new people are
going to be stepping in to helpus in this next phase.
So part of maybe the pain orthe loss that I'm feeling is
(17:55):
knowing that there are changescoming that I haven't quite
processed yet.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Well, I think you get attached that there are changes
coming that I haven't quiteprocessed yet.
Well, I think you get attachedand I think it has felt that the
stakes have been high and wecan be very proud of what we've
all done together.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
But that's the part that I loved, because the stakes
were crazy high and I loved anytype of clear expectation.
I love the high bar.
Yeah, I love that type of clearexpectation.
I love the high bar.
I love that type of competition.
I love being around playersthat are excellent at what they
do, and I feel that's what thisseason has provided me is.
(18:32):
It's provided me an arenawithin which I can practice and
play and compete with peoplethat are putting chips in just
like I am.
I have felt that I have reallyfelt that pressure.
There's a lot of that that Iexcel at.
I also know that I've learnedsome of my weaknesses in that
process, because I've alsolearned about my own capacities
(18:55):
of not being able to go as hardas I want for as long as I eat,
and that's been a learning.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Right.
Well, I would offer you, Brian,the wisdom that you shared with
one of our clients recently, asyou looked at the CEO and said
both can be true.
Oh, that's right.
And what are the boths?
Both can be true.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh, that's right.
And what are the boths?
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Both can be true, that you love the high bar, the
pressure, the intensity, and atthe same time it was exhausting
and frustrating at times, and alot of times like being in the
dark, and we can hold thetensions of both.
Both can be true, both can betrue, and we often don't think
that while we're in it tensionsup Both, both can be true.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Both can be true, and we often don't think that while
we're in it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
That's true.
So please get a copy of Unfoldit Lessons in Transformation
from an Origami Cray by BrianSchubring and Linda Schubring,
and the spine of the book saysSchubring and shoobring, which
is really kind of fun.
Pick up your book, let us know.
Take a photo of you holdingyour book.
(20:06):
I would love to see that.
And continue with us on thisunfolded journey.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Now, as Linda and Brian shared, transformation
doesn't just happen.
It takes presence, reflectionand often a letting go of what
was.
So, whether you're startingsomething new or closing a
meaningful chapter, may thisconversation and this book
remind you that both can be trueGrowth and gratitude, grief and
joy, completion and beginning.
(20:36):
My name is Nathan Freeberg and,on behalf of our entire team,
thanks for listening.
Thank you for getting a copy ofUnfolded.
You can click the link in theshow notes or go to
leadershipvisionconsultingcom orshoobringscom and pick up your
copy today.
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