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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone,
welcome back to the Leadership
Vision podcast, as promised.
If you remember, from last week, we said we're going to have a
very special announcement and Iam so excited to share this
announcement with you.
But I'm going to let Dr Lindaand Brian Shubring share it with
you.
Take it away.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Thank you, nathan, we
are excited.
We're excited to announce therelease of our book.
Woohoo.
Insert applause.
We're excited to announce therelease of our book.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Insert applause.
Our book is titled UnfoldedLessons and Transformation from
an Origami Crane.
It's a story, it's an allegoryand a guide that imparts a
philosophy and a strategy thatyou need to meet your full
potential, cultivate betterrelationships and grow your
leadership capacity.
What we want to do is inviteyou to discover how you can
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transform your life through ourbook.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Unfolded.
We are so excited to let theworld know that we have been
working with Wiley Publishingand this story.
This book will be launched andreleased in June of 2025.
We have been writing andweaving this story together
probably before Brian and I wereeven together, and I think
there are clients and loved onesthat we know.
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You may read this book andbegin to wonder am I in the
story?
And probably yes, probably yes.
This book is an amalgamation ofour life experience, our life
work and the kinds of peoplethat we have been shaped by and
learned from over the years.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So why an allegory?
I'm curious why you chose thatformat rather than I don't know,
a textbook or a novel, or anyof the other formats you could
have chosen.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, one of the
reasons why we chose an allegory
is because one of the primarythings that we do in our
consulting and coaching is welisten.
We listen to people's stories,and so one of the ideas I have
is how can we tell a story thatrepresents the work that we do
without actually telling peoplewhat to do?
And so, as we all know, anallegory is a story that has
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layers of meaning, and themeaning is interpreted by the
reader, and when a reader isreading an allegory, they can
see themselves in a lot ofthings.
They can see themselves in themain character or supporting
characters, they can seethemselves woven into the plot
or the places that arerepresented, and so an allegory
is very invitational as well asopen to an individual's
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interpretation of the meaning,to wherever they find themselves
in their lives.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And our allegory is
short and our allegory is
accessible on purpose and it'sthe story of origami animals
that live in a playgroundtogether and, as Brian said, it
is layered with meaning and it'slayered with insight that you
can discover, uncover or, quitefrankly, unfold.
Then the final part of our bookis this opportunity to reflect,
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to encourage you to take action, and it gives you a little
behind the scenes of the storyitself and, at the end of the
day, we want you to see theworld through the eyes of this
origami crane who dreams ofbecoming a paper plane, and we
hope that this work will inspireyou, and inspire you to meet
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your full potential, cultivatebetter relationships and grow
your leadership capacity.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So the book comes out
this year, june 4th 2025.
You can pre-order a copy today,right now.
Go stop what you're doing andgo do this Shoebringscom.
There's also a link in the shownotes to pre-order your copy of
Unfolded Lessons inTransformation from an Origami
Crane Origami, what I think.
People sort of know what thatis, but why origami?
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What does this have to do withanything here?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, one of the
reasons why I chose origami as a
metaphor is because I reallybelieve that our lives represent
some of the fundamentalprinciples of origami.
When we show up into arelationship or at our jobs or
anywhere that we go, we show upwith a certain representation of
who we are, and thatrepresentation of who we are and
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our identity has been shaped,molded and folded by the people,
the places and the experiencesof our life.
And most of the time, we don'treally pay a lot of attention to
who or how we've been shaped,and sometimes people believe
that the shape that we're intoday is the shape we need to
stay.
But the important thing to knowabout origami is that almost
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all origami characters startwith the same principle, and
that is a square piece of paper,and so, despite the shape we're
in today, there's always thepotential to dream again, to
receive permission to change andto begin an unfolding process
to become something or someonedifferent than we are today.
So origami represents how wegot here, it represents our
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potential and it also representsthe future shape of who we are.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And the origami crane
is just the most common.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And why the origami
crane?
Because when I was thinkingabout which character to choose
as the central character for thebook, I simply Googled what is
the most internationallyrecognized origami character,
and it was the origami crane, sothat was clearly the place I
was going to start.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And we know that
origami actually translated
means folded paper and I havefallen in love with our
character, OC, which stands forOrigami Crane we call her OC for
short and I was intrigued rightaway about what Brian had
started to dream up.
And one thing led to anotherand we began to write this book
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together and I could tell you alittle bit more about the why of
the book.
But I'm so excited about thischaracter named OC that I really
have come to admire and learnabout, Because it's one thing to
start with the why, it'sanother thing to start with the
who, and we want to introduceyou to OC.
She's our female protagonist.
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Knowing us, knowing Brian inparticular, and knowing the
shaping influences of matriarchsin our life, we knew that this
main character had to be female.
And this main character iscomplex.
She is community oriented andshe has the courage and
curiosity to dream a big dream.
Oc lives in a playground withother origami characters who
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represent a myriad of voicesaround us and, quite frankly,
sometimes those voices areinside of our head.
So we're excited for you tomeet OC.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I love this metaphor.
We were at some craft fair onceand there was this person there
doing live origami.
Basically, they just had apiece of paper and they were
folding it and transforming itand it was sort of like trying
to guess what is it going to be.
So talk about that specificword lessons in transformation
from an origami crane.
What does transformation heremean?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Well, we wrestled
with a variety of words, because
, was it change, was it growth?
And when we hearken back toeven why we do our work at
Leadership Vision, it is totransform how leaders express
their beauty and brilliance forthe benefit of humanity, and
it's that part of transformationthat we are talking about.
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The transformation that we aretalking about is not flipping a
switch and saying okay, nowwe're new, now things have
changed.
We know that transformationinvolves bumps and bruises and
tries.
It involves unlearning,learning, folding and unfolding.
What we have found is thattransformation is what happens
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on the inside.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
And the reason why we
want to invite people just into
this idea of what doestransformation mean for me is
because we want to, from thebeginning, simply communicate
that we're not talking about achange or even a series of
changes, because transformationinvolves a series of changes,
because transformation involvesseries of changes ways that we
practice and play with oneanother, the ways that we have
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to ask for help from differentpeople and from different
experiences.
And transformation usuallytakes some time, and I think
that for those of us that havehad to go through some type of
transformation, we realize howmuch of a change in our
personality, in our dynamic,actually happens at the other
end of the transformation andthat's the journey that this
book talks about is what does ittake for us to really begin to
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dream and to begin to unfold ourpotential to fulfill and to
reach for those dreams?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And transformation.
The lessons are endless.
So there were lessons that weput in the story in particular,
and then when we had pre-readersgo through our manuscript and
give edits and suggestions andall of those things, there were
lessons that they were learningand reflecting back to us that
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we didn't necessarily intend,but we started to realize this
is not just a fable.
This is an allegory withlayered meaning.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I'm excited when we
do more of a deep dive into this
book later, because I thinkthere'll be an entire podcast on
just my takeaways and all of mynotes.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh, I like that, so
it'll be fun to have a little
author's.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You know, ask the
author, but it'll just be me
asking the two of you.
Unfolded Lessons inTransformation from an Origami
Crane.
Origami is the art of foldingpaper.
Unfolded seems like theopposite.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Talk to us about that
part of the title.
Well, I want to start by sayingthis Sometimes we are unfolded
by choice we choose to unfoldand not be in the same shape
that we're in.
And there are other times that,being unfolded by choice, we
choose to unfold and not be inthe same shape that we're in.
And there are other times thatbeing unfolded is a result of
circumstance.
And the unique quality ofcharacters in our story is that
origami animals are made fromall different kinds of maps and,
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as Brian mentioned earlier,squares, so square maps, and
part of the maps we see and partof the maps are folded away.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
What's important to
our allegory is that each
character is made of a map.
Each map is unique andindividual to that specific
character, and that metaphor ofmap is a representation about
how each one of us have aninternal map, an internal
landscape that represents ourunique character, our qualities,
our values, our interests, ourbehaviors, our beliefs, our
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attitudes, and many times, thevery qualities that we rely on
the most could be the ones thatare folded to be seen by others.
And the reason why the mapmetaphor is so important is
because through the unfoldingprocess and through the process
of transformation, we begin tolearn more about ourselves.
It's an internal journey ofdiscovering and being invited to
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know ourselves in ways that wedidn't know before, and then to
ask ourselves what about thisnew part of me that I'm learning
?
Or what about this part of methat I'm being reminded of?
Do I want that part of me to benow refolded into something
that other people see?
Now there are some parts of eachone of our maps and I'm sure
that many people can think ofexperiences or relationships or
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things that have happened thatthey want to remain hidden, like
that part of the map isn't foranybody else to see but me and
we want to give peoplepermission to always keep that
part folded away, because ourlife isn't to be seen or to be
read or to be interpreted by allpeople all the time.
So there's this sense ofrecognizing who we are and how
do we want to express our beautyand brilliance.
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And there's also this sense ofthose challenging times, those
trying times, the times whenwe've struggled, that those can
be kept folded away and to be aresource to remind us of what it
means to endure throughsuffering and what it means to
really double down on what webelieve in.
And this idea that we are a mapmeans that the answers are
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within us, the pathways are tobe discovered, and even
understanding the horizon thatwe're directing ourselves to may
be known, through a process ofunfolding and reflection, to
then refold and apply that topursuing our dreams.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And unfolding leaves
creases.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So part of the unique
thing about an unfolded crane
is you're quick to recognize themountain folds that form the
rises in the shape, and you'realso quick to recognize some of
the valley folds that representsome of the maybe more trying
times in our lives and some ofthe secondary folds that are
there.
But each one of us have aunique texture to how we've been
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raised, to how our experienceshave shaped us, and part of our
exploration of transformation isto accept the folds and the
creases that are also a part ofour life, that give us our
uniqueness.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
One of my kids got an
origami book for Christmas one
year and I remember we weretrying to put it you know, fold
something and they're like I'mnot doing this right.
And so I kind of took it,unfolded it and kind of redid it
and I was like, oh, here'swhere you went wrong.
But I was like, oh, these foldswere right, these folds were
right.
And so it's interesting whenyou think about how your life is
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, there's certain things youthink you've made a mistake in.
But actually that crease, thatfold, actually was right, but
maybe in the wrong order at thewrong time or whatever it is.
So I'm excited for people toget their hands on this book and
take their own meaning out ofit.
So, with that in mind, my lastquestion if there's one thing
that you hope readers walk awayfrom, what would that be?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
If there's one thing
that you hope readers walk away
from, what would that be?
For me, the one thing is thatreaders would receive the
invitation to consider your ownstory, your own dreams whether
you dream them yourselves orother people have been dreaming
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for you and you have to livethat out that you begin to
wonder about the people andplaces that shape who you are
and start to consider who youare doing life with, work with
and what you can learn by beingwith other people and looking at
your life.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Brian, what about you
?
What's the one thing you hopepeople take away from this book?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
One of the things
that I hope people take away
from this book is that there ishope when we live in a world
where there's so much noise anddistraction, where things seem
to be constantly changing, whenthe voices of social media seem
to drown out our own sense ofclarity.
What I hope people take awayfrom all this is that there is a
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treasure to be discovered withinside of all of us Now.
There are lessons that we havelearned that we can apply to the
world outside of us.
My hope is that people willlearn that there are answers and
clarity to be discovered withinus, that there is hidden
potential within each one of usto face whatever it is that's
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happening around us.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
So one more thing,
nathan.
One more thing.
I want to say yeah, because thebook, in between all the
chapters and the differentcomponents, are meditations
written by Brian, and for thoseof you that know Brian well, you
know that he spends hismornings and early mornings.
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Some people call them nightsmaybe people are daughter's age
yes, call them night still, andhe is up writing, and some of
the meditations are some of themost beautiful work that Brian
has ever written.
Announce the book.
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Brian wrote a meditation that'snot found in the book but is
just to highlight what we'reseeking to do with this book and
this movement of sorts.
And so, brian, will you readyour meditation?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
All right, we'll have
to edit this part.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Let me cue the music
Go.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Like real music.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
There is a beauty and
brilliance within each of us to
accept, awaken and amplify, forourselves to be seen, honored,
dignified.
Our talent is a treasure, ourunique and unlimited potential
awaiting to be unfolded andreleased.
Setting ourselves free, ourbeauty and brilliance is to be
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recognized and celebrated.
It is a light to lead us withinand among our internal map, for
this map is our sacred imprint.
Our map is an unchartedlandscape awaiting for us to
encounter, for here, within theunexpected and the unknown, lies
everything we need Answers,clarity, abilities and dreams.
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For the fulfillment of ourdream awaits us our dreams for
life and love, relationship andpurpose, meaning and belonging.
All of it is here within us,found within our maps and
relationships, to be discoveredand known, unfolded and reshaped
.
Alive and free.
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May I be so.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
May I be so.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Thank you for
listening to the Leadership
Vision Podcast, our show helpingyou build positive team culture
.
We would love to invite you togo to shoobringscom there's a
link in the show notes andpre-order your copy of Unfolded
Lessons in Transformation froman Origami Crane, available on
June 4th 2025.