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July 9, 2025 31 mins
Original Release Date: August 30, 2016

Guthrie looks for the master planner behind a bank robbery a police officer was killed in.

Original Air Date: April 1, 1952

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(02:23):
for today's episode of the Lineup,and today's episode is actually the first airing
of a story the Lineup did again, and we've already played the second version
of that, but here's the firstone. The original air date is April
the first of nineteen fifty two,and it's Castro's cop Killing carnage case.

(02:49):
Ladies and gentlemen, we take younow by transcription, behind the scenes of
a police headquarters in a great Americancity. We're under the cold, glaring
lights. Well best before us,the innocent, the vagrant, the thief,
the murderer. This is the lineup him now quin people were all

(03:43):
here fine right over there. Thanksbig line, good size. About twenty
four I think, and that wason the other man on the bank job.
No, not yet, now Isee you lar right, I don't
know. I think it's possible.Now you take do it. Oh hello,
lieutenant here, you want to sithere? No? No, sorry,

(04:03):
thanks. We were just talking aboutpeople about criminal Oh. We were
just discussing how you really can't saya person looks like a criminal. No,
you can't. A young man whoworks in the bank, Bill Ryan,
looks about as mean as they come. Real so called criminal type,
you know, narrow eyes, usualthings that people automatically identify. Its sweet
and nice, very timid. Doesa matter of No, you can't tell

(04:25):
them. Do you think you've caughtthem? Not all of them? Maybe
too. Well, that's very good. I have your attention. Please thank
you. My name is Carger,Sergeant Peete Carger. I'll explain the line
up to you. Each of thesuspects, you will say, will be
numbered. I'll call off a number, their name and chart. You have
any questions or identifications, please rememberthe number. A sign of the prisoners,

(04:47):
I call his name if you're sure. I'm not too sure of the
suspects, have him health questions?I ask these suspects and really to get
a natural tone of voice, sothey're not to make too much attention to
their answers as they often lie.All right, bring on the line,
okay, keep it moving right overhere at the end of stage. Come
on, come on, I'll turnher face front, hands at your sides,

(05:10):
look straight ahead, straight out throughthe screen. That's right you Number
three, Yeah, I don't takeyour glasses off. And I tell you
okay, now you see some ofthem? Should everybody can hear you.
It's a big room. We gota lot of people here tonight. I
want all those people to get agood look at you, to be able
to hear what you say. Standup, talk okay. Number one Williams

(05:32):
Skinner, Robbery, keep your headup though. Okay? Where do you
live? All on the east sideRiver District? What's the address? Addresses
down by the river? The shackyou live there? Oh, I don't
know, I guess close to sixeight months? What's your business? My
business? What do you do?I don't do much. I don't work
much anymore. Jobs are getting prettytough. Are you arrested with anybody?

(05:56):
I was alone when I got pickedup. I wasn't with nobody, have
any weapons on you weapons? Yeah, I guess what were They's more than
one? All right, describe ita gun, don't you agree, Bob?
Was it chrome blue steel or oneblue steel? I guess you have
a car, I know, theone one we're driving a car? Yeah?
Describe it? What kind of acar? Just sit down, Chevy.

(06:19):
I think what color was it?I don't really remember. It was
dark. I don't remember it becauseit was night and I wasn't in it
long enough to notice a color.They picked me up pretty quick. How
long have you lived in this town? Well, a couple of years,
I get Okay, step back numbertwo, George Coscrove robbery a lieutenant,
Yes, missus man, he lookslike one of the he looks like another

(06:44):
one. And what looks like oneof them? Yes? What she does?
Clerk? What kind of clerk?That's one of the lieutenant. It's
one of them. The next one, sergeant car guy seventy eight. I
have number three step out beside thatman. Please Number three step out,
move up right next to him.Okay, how about it? Oh,

(07:06):
there's no slidest down. I swearthat those were two of the men,
and we thought so. We arrestedthem together. Sergeant Cargan number two and
number three for interrogation. Oh thanks, smells good. M Well, I'm

(07:38):
gonna work on Cosgrove first. Okay, it'll be tough, though. Maybe
with the identifications we can get something. I'll bet your dinner. Cosgrove,
Santley, you don't say a thing. I owe you a dinner. It's
a bad Cosgrove. Okay. Cosgroveand Santley worked together before, did a
stretch together? Holden here, Yeah, a little, and I'm on show.

(08:03):
They never worked with anybody else.Well, they haven't been out long.
Whatever those other two guys were,they probably contacted tosbro Cosbrove. No
to down, George, George,you were identified in the line. Yeah,
I'm gonna save everybody a lot oftime if you tell us who the
other two men were on the job. Look, I don't know what you're

(08:24):
talking about. I wasn't on thejob. Now, Look, I don't
want to go overall out again.All right, we know you and Santley
were two of four men that heldup the First National Bank. I've told
you before, I'll tell you again. We found some money in your place.
I didn't put it there. Twoof the bank employees identified you crazy.
The guard was shot. You meanI live. I'm telling you I
didn't have nothing to do with thejob. I guarantee your jury won't believe

(08:46):
it. You and Santley have pulledoff a few jobs before in the past.
Yeah, we did time going straight. Now, the money we found
in your place figures about half ofwhat was taken from the bank. Ask
Santley, I'm asking you. I'mtelling you nothing to do with it.
Maybe Santly and asking we're asking youif Sammy had something to do with it.
He didn't tell me. Three menwalked into that bank, one man

(09:07):
in the car. I know.I read about three men walked out of
that bank with one hundred and seventythree thousand dollars. You win, Santley,
were identified as two of those.Look, you can talk all night.
I didn't the other two. LookI tell you I didn't it.
Yeah, can you come out here, man important, worry You're right there.
Talk to him, Pete glad toI can't watch the hun you know

(09:31):
stand hope? Oh hello the ten. Yeah, I understand. In a
long time. Yeah, I've beengoing straight. Tell a little time with
what you told me. Stan Well, like I said, I've been going
straight. I got a job.I haven't gotten mixed up in nothing since
I could die. Just tell himwhat you told me. I will,
but I'm just worried about getting intotrouble. What is it? Stand?

(09:52):
Well? Have you done me afavor? Once, about a week ago,
guy came to see me. GuyI did time. He wanted to
know if I wanted to drive fora job, job, bank, job.
He didn't tell me what bank.He just asked me if I wanted
in. It's the game. Myname's Castro, Benny Castro. We got
a record on him. Yeah,it's coming up. He never worked this

(10:13):
territory. He's a Detroit boy.He was pretty big time before I got
set up. I got to knowhim pretty well and stir. But I
hadn't seen him till the other day. I didn't even know he was out
until he showed up my place.How do you know where to find Jim
Well, I said, George Cosgrovegave him my address. You know cosgro
I seen him a couple of timesthe last couple of months. He always

(10:35):
wanted to get together figure out ajob. He was always with a guy
named Santley, And I read thepapers this morning, and I put two
and two to gey. No,what do you mean? Well, if
Castro shows up at my place andsays Cosgrove told him where to find me,
I figure he must be working withCastro. And when I read about
the first national job and how healready got Cosgrove and Santley, where can

(10:58):
we find Castro? Well, Idon't know. There were four men in
on the job. O Castro wasearly. When I saw Castro give it
the bat asher, okay? Thanks? Well hello stand oh hello, I
don't remember your name as Oh yeah, Castro was really gonna ranking. Did

(11:18):
you work with anybody's special worked witha lot of boys, a lot of
special ones. It was a prettybig boy. He put off some fancy
jobs before they sent him up,and he came to see you about a
week ago. I think it wason a Saturday. It was a Friday
or Saturday year. Last week.I'm shooting a quin put how to pick
up for Castro? Right, Oh, I'll get it. And you don't
know who the other man is?Heny stand No, I don't know who

(11:41):
it could be. Well, you'llhave to testify, I will. We'll
give you a plenty of protection.Okay, thanks, that was a hospital.
The bank guard just died. Look, this Castro was a nasty guy.
Yeah, he'll kill me if hefinds out I came here, relaxed,
stan Right, nice, you'll getprotection when we catch Castro. He's
not going to be in a positionto kill anybody. Cosgrove and Santley sure,

(12:18):
don't be like talking, and we'llwork on them till they do.
And Pete, you and I shouldwork on Sandling Kine. Now I'll take
cosgro Okay, Sandley's now, seeyou later. Let's get to work.
Flappers have got the story on Castro. Yeah, it's a little dangerous.
Okay, we will need you.Phillips. You should be a little tired

(12:39):
by now. Yeah, I'm alittle tired, So you're right. No,
okay, we're gonna work and shifts. Cosgrow We're gonna just keep talking
to you. Did you tell us? I've already told you. How's Benny
Castro? Who Castro? Benny Castroone of the guys you heldped A.

(13:00):
I didn't hold destroy boy. Youdid some time with him, I don't
know. Contacted a guy named Hopelast week. I wanted Hold to come
in on the job. I don'tknow any guy named Hope Dalley. Hold,
I don't know. I'm you didtime with him? You say I
did time with him. You sayI did time with this Castro. Yeah,
well, I don't know. Idid time with a lot of Who

(13:22):
was he? Sadly, I'll tellyou I didn't have nothing to do with
that bank job, you and Cosgrove, and can know who was the other
guy. How can I tell youif I don't know who you're talking about?
First National Bank job. I knowthat thought. She said you didn't
know what we were talking about.I mean these other guys. You sure
you didn't pull that job off byyourself. I didn't pull it off at
all. I didn't know nothing aboutit. I told you guys a dozen
times. Tell us again, Ididn't have nothing to do with it.
You'll go to try and no conviction. I didn't have nothing to do with

(13:43):
it. We know Castro was inon it with you. Castro was the
other man on the bank with youand Cosgrove. I wasn't in the bank.
There's no use getting excited. Sadly, I'm tired. You guys have
been pounding on me all day anda halter night. I want some sleep.
Let's take it really easy and startagain again again from the beginning.
Who was the other guy? Idon't know. I tell you for the
hundred time. I don't know.I don't know. I don't know.

(14:11):
Well, we got a long timeuntil you change your mind. I don't
know any guy named Castro. Idon't know anything about the bank. Jug
doesen't? People say you do,and I say I talk Yeah, hemmy,
I say I don't. I don'tknow. Come on, Santley is

(14:33):
sewed up. Tell us and makeit easy for yourself. You and Cosgrove
are sini to be convicted. Weknow Castro was a third man in the
bank. Who was the guy inthe car? Where is Castro? Where
can we find him? Please?Lay off? We get tired just like
you do. Then layoff. Tellus where we can find Castro. I
don't know. If you like somedinner? Peede? Yeah? Yeah,
Get Bishop and Evans in here.Yeah, two roast beef rare. The

(15:09):
matter of your guys today? We'rebeat and I thought something was wrong.
You ain't making wise cracks. Bringme some milk in sure, Hi,
they gotta have some milk too.It's two milks. Ah, it's a
menu. Yeah, you guys looklike you've been to a funeral. Charlie,
how's a roast beef? It's prettygood, and give you a nice
outside cut. Okay, some cough? Yeah, and two milks two bene

(15:31):
make mine rare. Two cough.My mouth tastes off them. I must
have smoked a whole pack. Nothinghappen. Uh, these guys are tough.
I can't understand it. No oneSamply and Cosgrove they know we've got
them. Afraid of Castro. Yeah, yeah, I'll get it up soon

(15:52):
or aletic. I don't the wayit's going. I don't know whether they
want or not. Yeah, foryou someday that phone isn't going to ring.
Yeah. We ripped Charlie a lot, but it really does have good
beef. How he does it atthese prices, I'll play This size would
cost a place like Joey. Igotta break it up pain. Oh,

(16:15):
then, come on, what's up? You guys? Got back over with
Santlin cosgro As soon as you canhold witness identified Castro was just killed what
small and leads the small? Sookay he got one of the two men
who killed holding lead just hurt prettybad. Let's go. They're small.

(16:48):
Yeah you time, you just barely. They were waiting in the hotel alarming.
They come on, let us throwwho's in the ambulance? Leagues got
two in the chest. There's theguy hanger. Leeds and I were right
behind Hold, and where's Hold?There? I elevator really nailed him.

(17:15):
I didn't even see it coming.The guy I got was standing over there
behind that pillar. Castro. Youassured it was Castro. Looked like his
mug. I only got a quickflash. Leeds took Castro and I took
the guy. They hauled off identificationas Walt said Paul Williams, I've never
seen him before. Castros in thehall. Yeah, he blasted Hold,
yelled something about no good squealer.I started to go for him, but

(17:38):
the other guy opened up. Castrocut down Leeds before he could get his
gun out. By the time Iwent after him, he was out the
back of way. He had acar. I heard it pull away and
didn't see it though. No,I'm sorry about this banner. Don't be
ridiculous. I should have spotted it. Oh, I should have should have
been ready for it. I know, done well Leeds has had a rock

(18:00):
and shame. Sure is you knowhis wife? I met her. I
know the whole family pretty well.Oh he might pull through, not a
chance. Back said he was nearlygone when they drove off. Well,
I'll go over and see the family. No, let me do it,
O King, Come on, Pete, we're going back and show Santley and

(18:21):
Cosgrove how to talk. I can'ttalk anymore, and Beat, I just
can't. You're gonna talk until youtell us where we can find Castro.
The bank guard's dead, holds dead. Paul Williams is dead and a good
cops close to it. And Iswear Cosgrove if you don't tell us where
we can find Castle. I toldyou I don't know. Where were you

(18:44):
two days ago? Oh? Wherewere you? I told you? Where
were you? I was at homeall day? Yeah? You just stayed
in all that? Yeah what'd youdo? I don't remember. I just
stayed in. You don't know castNo, you were in start with him?
No, maybe I met him.We're gonna book you for murder book.
Look, you guys have been workingon me like this for nearly two
days. Not get satisfied, willyou. We're trying, I mean layoff.

(19:07):
Where'd you meet Paul Williams? Idon't know if Paul Williams he drove
the car. I don't know him. He was a man waiting in the
car. Where you held up thebank? Well, you held it up
with Castro and santling a cop stanging. Okay, okay, I held up
the bank. I pulled off thejob. Where can we find Castor?
I don't know where does he live? I don't know where'd you meet to
plan this job? Look? Please, I told you I was in on

(19:29):
Where did you meet in a garage? Where? What garage? One River?
I don't remember them? Remember it? I don't know it's in a
garage? And then eleven hundred block. You never saw a Castro except in
that garage. You're lying. No, that's the truth. How did you
meet him? And stir? Wheredid you meet him after you got out
in the garage? No, youtold us you never saw him outside that
garage. Okay, okay, Isaw I saw him once. When I

(19:51):
met him, he told me tomeet him at the garage. You gave
him stand holds address? Yeah,where does Castro live? I told you
I don't know where? You knowyou're afraid you? Hey, you off
like he paid off? Hold?Where is it? Casgrove? Okay?
Loose at the west side. I'lltell the Jane, gonna find him.
Then where else will we find him? Well, he might be hold up
in the garager at his girls?Where's his girls? Six fifty seventies Sycamore

(20:15):
names June Bender? Okay, househotel? What the house? A little
white dumb? Look, please don'ttip him. What I told you?
You don't know that guy. We'llintroduce ourselves. That's the house. Lights

(20:41):
on, you too, cover thebank, right, Okay, let's go.
Asher, you better stay out ofthe way and covers with the Thompson.

(21:07):
Yeah, I'm a police officer.Holy, Hey, what do you
think you're doing? I've got awarrant? What's going on? Hey?
What do you think? Where Castro? I'll let's check. Okay Castro,
Benny Castro? Where is he?I didn't know No, Benny cast you
don't know him. Where is he? You ain't got him? Right,
he's wanted for murder. I didn'tknow him. I ain't gonna find nobody
here out here, Now, getout of here. Let's go. Miss.

(21:27):
What do you mean to arrest?What for what he's not in the
house. Better try to garage isin the garage. Ain't got no garride,
I mean, no one on theriver. Why don't you go look
we are you can't do this.One of the neighbor's gonna say, let's

(21:57):
take that river sides. Rip Blackand Kane. Come on in with us.
Okay, there's a grace of downparking the hour. I wouldn't be
Castro. He's in the garage's causingwith him. Almost there was a window.
Yeah, there's one around the back. H right, but it's black
dog. We can use a gasgun on a heavy lock, heavy door

(22:19):
and give me the shotgun. Getout of the way. I'm gonna blast
the lock, then push my wayin. Come in after me right after
you. Okay, go on,Hey, somebody's in here. Left the

(22:41):
light on. He was behind thatcan move away from me. Move away,
guy Strow, come on out withyour hands up. Okay, blast
him he's down. Then Castro allright, yeah, and I'm a little

(23:18):
tirer. Come on, let's getout of this garage. Stamp the line

(23:48):
up. Where before you passed theinnocent, the beggar and the thief,
The murderer. My name is Parker, Sergeant Pete Cocker. I'll explain the
line up to you. Each ofthe suspects. You will say we've been
number. I'll call off a number, their name and charge. If you
have any questions or identifications, pleaseremember the number of sides of the prisoners.
I call his name the end ofeach line. When I ask for

(24:08):
questions or identifications, call out thenumber. If you're sure, are not
too sure, the suspect can himheld the opposers. The date is August

(24:29):
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(25:18):
is written by Blake Edwards, withmusic by Eddie Dunstutter. Featured in
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