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July 19, 2025 32 mins
Original Release Date: August 23, 2016

People are dying or going blind due to bad illegal liquor and it’s up to Guthrie and Karger to track down the source.

Original Air Date: March 18, 1952

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Right, well, now it's timefor today's episode of the Lineup. The
original air date March the eighteenth,nineteen fifty two, and this one is

(02:00):
the Mirthless Moonshiner's Methyl Murders by transcription. We take you now behind the scenes
of a police head quarters in agreat American city, or under the cold,
glaring lights. What passed before us? The innocent, the vagrant,
the thief, the murderer. Thisis the line up? An Ash,

(02:59):
how's it going? I'm pretty good? Line to nine forty two boys,
vois quine. Let's got call upstairs? Can you run into it? Who
didn't see him? And any interestingin the line. Here's the set.
Take a look. Yeah but brothers, I'm the second bunch of thing.
Yeah yeah, I have your attention. Please have your attention, Please thank

(03:22):
you. My name is Carterer,Sargeant Pete Carter. I'll explain the lineup
to you. Each of the suspectsyou see will be numbered. I'll call
off a number of their name andchart. You have any questions, right
entifications, Please remember the number ofsigns of the prisoners. I call his
name if you were sure, AndI'm too sure of the suspects have him
health questions. I asked these suspectsand merely to get a natural tone of

(03:43):
voice so they're not pay too muchattention to their answers as they often lie.
Okay, bring on the line,all right, keep it moving right,
don't he the end of the stage. I'll turn and face front.
You will backing up a little,back right up against the wall. Okay,
hands at your side. Space timenow. When I called out to
your number, step up and lookstraight ahead. Keep your voice loud enough

(04:05):
so everyone can hear you. Okay, number one, earnest, fetch your
robbery, stand up straight, takeyour hands out of your pockets. Don't
let at me, look straight ahead, don't care. Where do you live?
Honest? I put the three whisthundred in the ninth Street hotel house
or what? Oh, I guessyou'd call it what you call it everything?

(04:27):
I can think of. How longyou live there? This about three
years? Three, maybe a littlemore. Were you arrested with any money?
Yeah? Who were arrested with?Girl? Names? I don't remember
her name? Oh, oh,Lisa, hop Lisa, Yeah, that
was it, Lisa. He waswith me when I got picked up.

(04:50):
You don't know nothing about it,trying to loose. You have any weapons
with him? Just Lisa, anyweapons? No, I'm gonna call.
Oh, I don't know what carpicking up before I had a chance to
get a car. You don't owna car? No, I don't own
one. Where you're from? ErnestDetroit with me about four years? Okay?

(05:11):
Step Backer and number two Jack CasperAssault. Where do you love Jack
Weston Talker, Washington, Navenue,one hundred and seven West White, Navenue.
What do you live there with anotherguy? Well? It Keith.
I love with him. He's theguy your head. Yeah, he's the
guy. Why do you hit him? I don't know. I guess I
just felt like I had a coming. He's in pretty bad shape. Might

(05:34):
turn into manslaughter. I hit himhot, he had a coming. Why
do you hit him with a shovel? Or digging out back and I hit
him with a shovel? You justhit him? Yeah? I turned her
on and followed him in her face. He had a coming. You keep
saying he had a coming? Hedid? Why? Why? Yeah?
Why do you have a coming?I've been living with him for seven months.

(05:54):
He's a terrible guy to live with. Anything you do he's got something
to say about it. They takea bad I tell you you're doing it
all wrong. He's been telling meI've been doing everything wrong. But tell
him the other day told me Iwasn't using the shovel, right, So
I pumped him with it. Whydidn't you leave? Why didn't you stop
living with him? For a while? I thought maybe it was right?
Okay, step back number three,Stanley Fellas Robbery. Where do you live?

(06:19):
Stan it's such an a half southat him? How long you live
there? I guess about a coupleof years, I guess, yeah,
describe it five. I don't knowmy son. Let's got a call from
General hospital. Twelve people have beencarried him in the last hour. That

(06:56):
small all right, all I wasdoing a more than three more a few
minutes ago. That's that's fifteen people. What did it bad? Booze?
Wow, somebody saw them some badliquor. They're going blind, having convulsions.
The talks ear not yet they're alsosick. They're actually going blind.
Calling one of the doctors. Ohno, here, let's talk names.

(07:20):
Go doctor. This is Aeutenant gotme in Sergeant quin Hello, boys,
I was just calling maybe about abrief me. Well, Lieutenant, there
isn't much to brief you on atthe moment. Fifteen or sixteen cases,
and already in most of them invery serious condition poison wood or like alcohol.

(07:44):
Probably four or five were already blind. Any of them well enough to
talk to him? Who was onethat came in a short time ago.
I don't know his name. Whenhe's well enough to be questioned? He
was when I looked at him.He's pretty sick, but he seemed much
better than the rest. It's prettyterrible. I'm telling how many people have
gotten hold of this stuff bad liquor. Yeah, it's homemade. Every one

(08:07):
of the people who have been broughtin from the poorest section of town.
We got some addresses from them,but the rest you can tell someone sold
it for us in the government priceon bad Yeah. Well, that's why
I'm worried about this turning into anepidemic. It's bigger than just a party
making it in the bathtub. Whoeverbowed this stuff was planning on making some
ready cash. If they've sold itto fifteen, they probably sold it to

(08:28):
a lot more. Well, look, I'd like to talk to this one
man. Sure, I'm going toneed more space awards? How he pretty
full? Is this man in thewall? No, No, he was
for a while until he got better. He's on the cotton the hall.
We need all the beds for thereally sick. Once tell me doc any

(08:50):
of the victims saying way they gotthis stuff? No, in fact,
I haven't asked them. Yeah,oh oh, I guess I wanted to
talk to you, Alison. Howdo you how do you feel? I
have worse? That's how much worse. His name is Toomey Stanley Toomy,
and I feel good enough to leave, mister Toomey. I'm Lieutenant Guthrie and

(09:16):
this is sergeant. That's right,mister Toomey. Selah, that's right,
mister Tom. I'm a very sickman that I feel very sick, and
I think I should resk for whatyou wanted to leave. I think the
drank some something you didn't agree.I haven't done anything from I mean the
pokey bar. You've been thrown before. You told me I want to lawyer

(09:39):
or I feel very sicking, youknow, suddenly, excuse me not to
be getting back to the water.Look, I said I was very sick,
conversick. You can't just leave youall right, mister Tildy, all
right, god, very sick againall over again. I would be like
the rest of those rummeys. Allyou're well enough to tournans sick. I'm

(10:00):
sick. I'm very, very sick. As you were walking around to me,
I think that I'm the best judge. Then trade new stomachs. You
talk to these men. I'll beback. Oh no, fellow, just
a minute, mister Tony Birthway,just want to talk to you. You
gotta see sigarette. Sure, thankyou, good away, thank you.

(10:28):
M you just want to that's right, mister Toomey. I tell me where
did you get the stuff you weredrinking? Which do all the stuff that
made you sick? I guess Igotta confess to you. I've been feeling
pretty bad lately. I've been awfullow troubles. You known the press time

(10:50):
I've been drinking. Just skateball comerato me. You're benn escaping ever since
I first knew you. Lately,and more than usually watch that guy to
do with the stuff that made yousick? Well, last night and yesterday,
and you know this morning, Iwas drinking kind of hard to tell
what stuff I got sick on andwhat were you drinking? All various things.

(11:13):
It's kind of hard to keep track. Oh, I was very depressed.
Yea, and just to pick outjust which one of the hell when
did you first get sick? Iremember when I woke up? And where
did you wake up? I waslying down in a particular all. I
don't know when I'm shelter as Iwas. It was a little vague.

(11:33):
That's when you first got sick?Yeah, Well, I had a bad
stomach Gage. I knew it wassomething unusual because I've been drinking various things.
Was some time and I generally getby. Oh, maybe an occasion
lapped some memory, or slight headacheor something, but nothing like the stomach
ache. Well, I got prettysick. Oh. Then I had a

(11:54):
most disgusting thought. Oh, I'dbe a laughing stock. So I went
directly to the hospital the fun rowor tell me, and what times you
wake up in the alley? Well, I have no idea. What time
do you go to sleep in thealley? I am where were you before

(12:16):
you went to the alley? Wherewere there? Yeah? Where was I
before I went in the alley?I'll just give me a second. On
that was you have no idea,But I remember going into Limkey. What
drink there? Well, I spentmy last fifteens hence then something that Limkey

(12:39):
was advertising at a very reasonable feetWhere were you before Limkeys? Now?
I look, assuming you answered thequicker, you can take it easier.
Fellas I was in so many places. I was in the beach cat,
I was in the belt. Knowthe ball I wasn't. I had to
give them that place up. Maxis not at all sociable. Forgets the

(13:00):
people who kept his bond going doingthe tough days. But the last place
you remember before the alley was Lumpkys. I was Lumpkin. You know all
those bums had been bringing. Hemight have gotten into some highest gas.
I knew a guy once named Wadleywho drank ninety seven octem blurns. Julie
came, was very people. Didyou drink any gasoline last night? I

(13:26):
have no idea. Littlest little districtman never sounds good one. All right,

(13:56):
yeah, what do you guys want? Little talk Lumpkin customers. No,
yeah, you're gonna ruin business.If we're making nervous let's go in
the back. It was going torun the place let's go in the back.
Come on, Okay, what's wrong? I just want to talk to
you. I going the back room. Oh I was good enough. Aw

(14:18):
come on, what's the beef.A bunch of people were carried into the
hospital a day. Yeah, theywe're all poisoned. Guy, didn't they've
been drinking bad booze. My boozeain't the best, but they don't poison
nobody. You've been selling any illegalstuff? Lly, what alcoholic style?
You've been here before? You knowwhat I said? What did you sell
it too? Me? Last night? Rummy? H did you sell them?

(14:41):
I don't exactly remember I saw thewine? I mean, is there
was something? Check? Everything's cheap. You guys know the trade I get
in here. You know too,Mey, you couldn't buy nothings of wine?
And maybe he says it wasn't wineup being. Oh look, boys,
I don't care what that rummy says. You don't know what he's saying.
Anyways, one of the biggest lushesand none of those people they brought
into the hospital, I've already gonebye bye. Yeah, some of them
might die. Okay, I gottaget back out in the front. I

(15:03):
can't leave the place of nobody tolook After Saturday night, I got a
big crowd out. I see thebottle you serve the wine to tune me
out. And I told you Idon't know what I should do, but
look at your stock. My stockshows your whole stock. Oh look,
joys. Okay, see what youguys do on my business. Everybody's beating.

(15:24):
As soon as we leave, I'llbe back going shows your stock,
you guys. You gotta believe me. I didn't sell nothing illegal. Okay,
here is this stuff. They canlook for yourself. Ruffle of stuff
and my staff with anything that doesn'tlook good. I wait a minute,
Wait a minute, Yeah I soldit. Okay, where is it?

(15:48):
He's the lifetime Yeah? What isit? I don't know. I bought
it for for eighty a gallon.Take a list there. I didn't know
how to make anybody's shaky. Didn'tyou sample it? Uh A very small?
They found it. I don't thinkit's not all of it, allot

(16:11):
empty small. We were able totalk to some more the victims. I
got a list of four more placeslike MTY. I didn't know it was
dangerous. It should have thought aboutit. They brought in seven more people
that mixed twenty Where'd you get thestuff? Em Key? From a guy
I don't know who. I sawa chance to make a quick buck,
so I bought six gallons running itSmith all alcohol, all right, they

(16:33):
analyze it. Okay, empty,let's go. I'm in a lot of
trouble. Are Yeah, you're ina lot of trouble. Here's elaborate porn,

(17:17):
mental alcohol, mostly some artificial flavoring, some other things, but nothing
important. How do you get mentalalcohol? Oh, you can get it.
Anybody back in should be Yeah,those bars were checking anybody back here.
Brot Yet got a call from Crockettand he said he was questioning one
of the owners and he'd be assoon as he got something. Len't keep

(17:38):
finding anything in the mud? Pinyou not yet? He's still looking.
I get the artists coming down tosee if you can make a drawing Wenkey's
description. Monkey doesn't find anything inthe rips? Okay, Donkey didn't know.
The guy who was holding the stuffswears he didn't. Some guys will
do to make a buck. Yeah, it has been four hours since the
first victim was brought in. Thatreport me that thirty three people, six

(18:02):
of them blind, but doesn't notexpect them to live a lot more.
Ill said they stopped coming in.That's something that three of them would died
talcor doc actions. He said itwas a good bit too, or three
more would die before evening. Whoare the dead ones? Is the names
and addresses? How my families?Only one had a family, Pathan Jones

(18:23):
wife and three kids. Whife wasat the hospital. Wouldn't dine ever made
that step? Couldn't have done betterwith a gun? Yeah, rocket's coming
in with the owner of the riverfront bar called him, said the owner
of man named Brummings and the Minnesotianstuff? Did he ownly to say?
Who sold him the stuff? Saidhe didn't know the guy. How about
the other places? I haven't ananything yet? Oh ever, Yeah,

(18:48):
just dentifying him, okay, abad Yeah. I should just called from
ris mesas lemkey as father of mamasall all the stuff, well, having
bringing them key up here and checkand see how those other guys are doing.
And when Crockett gets here, Ihaven't bringing his man up. Boy,
I'm tired up, kind of stuffyin here. I hope my window

(19:11):
I'm a good idea. Thanks?Yeah, Hey, why at sunset,
how about that. Yeah, no, I've lived here all my life.
You really don't think about how greatyour own hometown looks. Still sometimes when
you see a sunset like that,even the south side, that's kind of

(19:33):
like a painting. Paras is supposedto be the most beautiful city of the
world. I think it is.I know, I've seen it in pictures,
like, I guess it's beautiful.Let's go be French cops and find
out. And I like to seeParis sometimes. I'd like to see a
lot of other places. But placeswhoa Italy, you know, Rome Venice,

(19:56):
I'd like to see Indian Indian.As a real good history student in
school, I like to read aboutplaces. I always like to read about
Indiana. Okay, this is amonkey called out round Peterson by the record.
Yeah, are you sure this isa man? Empty sherl. That's

(20:17):
the guy game in the white placeasked me if I wanted to buy this
stuff? Said five dollars, Isaid four and a half. I paid
for it, like I told you, that's the guy. That's silver thing
and last address nine went to eightSouth or ever, I gotta check on
it. Let's go over and seefor us. What's gonna happen to me?
How about going a little easy sinceI picked this guy out for you,
Ashon, Yeah, crock is comingin with another guy who's been selling

(20:38):
the stuff, showing the pictures andsee if you bought it from Roger Peterson
too? All right about you?Empty? I help, didn't none?
Three of those people who drank thestuff just done. They say I was
a one who saw it. Dome. It didn't have a chance to say
anything. No names on the mailboxes. Landlord number two, A lovely place.

(21:33):
You haven't seen worse where? Yeahwe're police officers. Okay, they're
Roger Peterson living here? Yeah,what do you do? Just want to
talk to him? Sure? What'syour name? Kevin? I run a
flight? What rooms Peterson in secondflooring, number twelve. It's gonna be
crouble. Not if we can helpit. Then you don't mind if I
live the place for a while,we might want to talk to him.

(21:55):
I'll just be down to block,staying out of the way the trouble.
You're want to cry, not tohelp you stay in your room. What
if there's some shooting, We'll trynot dame at the floor. Okay,
I'll stay in twelve. Yeah,and in the or the second floor.
He's probably sleeping, always does inthe daytime, waste night doing what all
night? Garage? You got aking? Yeah, that's what I'll bring

(22:18):
him, right thing, Okay,that he collects his rent by time nine
on this side, twelve, let'sside, I think we will go ready,
give him anoth I'm not again.He's in, he's really sleeping.

(22:48):
M's fun. There's a bed roomshe's in. Come on, Peterson,

(23:11):
Come on, Peterson, come on, come on, wake up? Wake
up? Huh hey, who's calling? Hey? What are you doing?
Please get out of bed? Pleaseget out of bed and get your clothes
on. Let me wake up?On you, let me wake up?
And what's going on? Look likeyou got bucking into my room. I'm
arresting you on suspicion of murder.What are you talking? I get up?

(23:34):
What's your clothes on? We'll tellyou all about it. Murder.
You guys must be no luck.I told you to get up. Okay,
Okay, I'm up, I'm up. Okay, where are your clothes?
I'm a chair, dude. Youdon't mind telling me? You guys
come busting in here. Tell meyou want me on suspicion of murder.

(23:55):
Yeah, and what is your warrantto come busting in here like this?
All right? Here, well,let me you're not it? Who'd I
killer three people? Maybe? Moreabout it? Man, me kill three
people? Can get any of clothes? What three people? Tell me?
What three people? I'm supposed tohave killed? The people who drank that
stuff you've been selling. I don'tknow what you're talking about. We'll tell

(24:18):
you all about it at the station. Oh wait a minute, I haven't
got my paint. I told you, all right, We'll let me at
least get my pants on and love. Okay, let's go watch it.
I've had it. Leave me alone, all right? Get up? Yeah?

(24:38):
Yeah, I look, I toldthe stuff. I didn't make it
on it? Oh didn't make it? My boys, The guy who worked
for that was the guy you workedfor, names King, Dave King.
Well you know Dave King? Yeah? Well I worked for at the garage.
Yeah, at the garage. Hebought the stuff in mixture. I
just peddled it for him. Whereis Dave King? You know, helped

(24:59):
me at the garage. I didn'tmake this stuff the boom? Don't you
sure? Peterson's your hat. Yeah, where's Dave King? Ain't then't you

(25:33):
what when they be in? Idon't know. Look what's on your mind?
Who are you? What do youguys want? He asked you who
you were? Maybe I don't feellike telling them. I think you're better
with police officers. Yeah, yeah, would you say your name? One?
Fisher? Sam Fisher? I'm amechanic here. Now. When did

(25:55):
you say Dave King would be in? He said I should be in any
minute. Just called from the housethat he was coming right over. What's
it all about? We're in theday by six gallons of mental alcohol metal
alcohol? Yeah, when do youbuy it? I don't know. I
don't know nothing about me the King'sbusiness. I'm just a mechanic. Well,

(26:15):
they just wait around for mister Kingwhen he comes in. I don't
think it'd be a good idea totell him who we are. Well,
he will say it. We're justcustomers. Got a car stall down the
block, you understand, Yeah,okay, let's take a look around me.
Oh by the way, Sam,Yeah, if you decide to take

(26:38):
a walk down, there's a dozencops around the building trying to find the
methyl. Better if we find amix, any garage. Oh, I
might have methyl and that's it's doing. Sam. Yeah, what's in here?

(27:00):
Oh? Oh Ben, Yeah,I think of Withery Bell. That's
it. Still enough in the bottomto hang him high in car. Just

(27:21):
came out. Ask King, Sam'sgotten to him. He is getting out.
Hold it boys got away the gun. King. Then tell me you're
unhappy. We just found your mixtoo bad. You were in a few
minutes later. You're want to dumpthose bots and get out of down put
down the gun places coming. Ididn't see nobody when I come in,

(27:47):
King, the whole places covering asI cop in the door right now.
Oh, come on, godree,okay, quin sure better take Sam down
to the station. Let's go,say Dad, you know it? Then

(28:11):
yeah, by Indian like I toldyou, read about it and like it.

(28:40):
The lineup or before you passed theinnocent, the vagran, the thief,
the murderer. Listen again next weekwhen we again bring you the lineup.
And I have your attention, labyou people out there on the other
side of the wire in the audience, roll man, I have your attention.
Please thank you. My name isCarter, Sergeant Feat Carter. I'll

(29:03):
explain the lineup to you. Eachof the suspects you see will be numbered.
I'll call off the number, theirname and charge you have any questions
or identifications, please remember the numberof sign of the prisoners. I call
his name at the end of eachline when I ask for questions or identifications,
calling up the number if you're shoreor not too shore of a suspect
to a ymut ah. This isAndrew from OTR Westerns dot com. I

(29:41):
wanted to invite you to come takea look at our site. We stream
live OTR Westerns twenty fours today seventiesa week, along with putting out podcasts
of old time radio Westerns. Checkus out at OTR Westerns dot com.
You're listening to the Great Detectives ofOld Time Radio with Adam Graham. Now
let's get back into the show.Welcome back. Well, a very different

(30:10):
case and a very atypical from thetypical UH story that will hear on Great
Detectives. Plus, I did likethe little bit of conversation between Cargar and
uh Go three. You didn't generallyhear much of that during the Cargar era,
so it was uh it was niceand it did build the humanity of

(30:36):
the characters quite nicely. All right, Well, now I do need to
let you know about the shows thatwe're going to be bringing you on Tuesday,
and uh, we're going to uh, we're going to finish up I
think most of the series where wehave, like you know, ten to
fifteen episodes out there, and mostlybe dealing with series where there are only

(31:02):
one or two episodes or where they'retwenty twenty five episodes. So but at
any rate, here are the programsthat we will be bringing you in the
twenty sixteen twenty seventeen season. Ofcourse, we'll be starting Private Files of
Rex Saunders towards the tail end ofthis season, but we'll be bringing you

(31:22):
Hollywood Mystery Time and then Inspector Thorne, and then after that, we've got
quite a few series where there's justone episode out there, so we're going
to go through four of those ina row, Bishop and the Gargoyle,
Crime Correspondent, the Judge and followthat man. Then we'll get into that

(31:45):
Hammer guy and then the Lone Wealth, and then we'll wrap up the series
by getting started on Rocky Fortune withFrank Sinatra. So there's a lot of
great series that you'll be able tohear on Tuesday coming up in this next
season, so I hope you willbe listening for that. All right,

(32:05):
Well, that we'll do it fortoday. Join us back here tomorrow for
Richard Diamond, and then join usnext Tuesday for another episode of the Lineup
in the Meantimes and your comments Boxthirteen at Great Detectives dot net, Follow
us on Twitter at Radio Detectives,and become one of our friends on Facebook,
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(32:30):
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