November 23, 2024 • 52 mins
This episode talks about how the bustling streets of New York City compare to the laid-back life of Texas. It's been a challenge of living a dual life between two very different worlds. With my brilliant producer, Jason Belsky, by my side, we share the evolution of our creative journey, from expanding our studio space to juggling diverse projects. This episode uncovers my love-hate relationship with the grind of city life, and the surprising personal growth that comes from balancing these contrasting environments.
Ever had a neighbor who seems to test the very limits of your sanity? Jason and I recount our separate ongoing sagas with noisy neighbors, those unwelcome symphonies of urban living, and the delicate art of managing one's peace in shared spaces. We tackle the generational shift in parenting styles and how it echoes through the thin walls of apartment life. Whether it's confronting the cacophony or adjusting to the quietude of Texas nights, this colorful narrative offers a slice of the complex tapestry that is city dwelling.
Exploring topics from motherhood at 35 to the peculiar world of marathons in Crocs, this episode doesn't shy away from the unique and unexpected. I share my reflections on future life choices, the modern landscape of dating in New York, and the curious allure of "rage listening" to provocative podcasts. With humor and introspection, we dive into the dynamics of personal and professional growth, revealing the quirks and inspirations that keep us moving forward.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is the Lucy Beatrix podcast.
I'm a fashion model, turnedrunner, turned podcaster, and
today we are at Florida media inLong Island, and this episode
is going to be with my amazingproducer, jason Belsky, and
(00:25):
we're just gonna talk shop andcatch up because it's been a
while.
I just finished recording aninterview with an athlete and
now it's time for us to justtake our hair down and let loose
, because I actually haven'tbeen at this studio in a year,
(00:46):
like a year and some change.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's been a year and some change.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And a lot's happened.
So much has happened.
I think I was here after I hadmoved to Texas and I came back
and I was raving about Texasbeing like it's just amazing,
wasn't I?
I feel like that was the lasttime we talked.
Really.
It was like, oh, texas is soawesome and everything's going
great.
But yeah, jason mentioned, uh,that I went out there for
(01:12):
running initially and thatlasted a few months, and then I
was like I'm not really runningas much.
I'm not doing the same kind ofrunning that I was doing when I
was training really hard Like Ihad been in 2022, and then I
kind of stuck around.
But my dilemma was that my jobis in New York city and so the
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entire time that I was in Texas,I was coming back to New York
every few months and stayinghere for months at a time, and
those trips got longer andlonger for work.
And suddenly I realized it'sbeen, you know, three quarters
of the year has gone by and I'vebeen in New York working, even
though most of my stuff is stillin Texas.
So I'm kind of like living intwo places at once right now.
(01:57):
But yeah, so that's why Ihaven't really been here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, welcome back.
Welcome back, and I didn'treally been here.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, welcome back Welcome, back Welcome.
I didn't forget about you.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, maybe a little bit, it's all right.
Well, I let my hair down a fewyears ago and I'm still trying
to figure out where I left itwhen I let it down.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, yeah, so it's been kind of a long time, but I
mean, I don't know, life has itsebbs and flows.
I think it's really good fornew yorkers especially people
I've was here for almost 20years to like go and leave and
then like get a sense of why newyork means as much to me as it
does true, and and you were inlike, you weren't like in, you
(02:38):
weren't in like a city, you werein a little bit of a suburb,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So what are you doing ?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Great question.
People who know me, like mybest friend is.
When I first moved out there,she was like what are you doing?
A lot of people were like whatare you doing?
You are a New Yorker, you'recrazy, you've got all this
energy, you've got so manythings going on here, and so
when I went out there, I feltlike it was kind of like a
sabbatical from my crazy life,and I did.
(03:04):
I think I did need like a breakfrom like the hustle, but it
gets boring really quickly and Iwas realizing like when every
time work would call and they'dbe like can you come do a few
weeks, can you come work on thisshoot?
I missed it so much and I waslike you know, as, as I complain
, I actually really like missbeing in the grind and like
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hustling so hard.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So, yeah, so it's been.
It's been interesting adjustingand trying to, like you know,
find my, find my footing again,cause I also felt like when I
left I was like what if I comeback to New York and people
forget about me or I don't knowhow to do my job, like on set,
like what if I'm just like not?
Like what if it's like moved sofast that I like can't keep up
anymore and I'm not like able togrind?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
but you've been coming back and forth yeah, like
so I got I would.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But like every time, every single time I come back,
I'm like I'm reminded of likehow much energy it takes to just
like live like there's juststep like every step of the day,
like cause I'll wake up reallyearly, go to the gym, get on
train, go to my shoot, come homeand I have barely enough time
to like eat dinner, watch a show, go to bed, like it's like such
a grind here and so it's sodifferent.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But um, but I love it and I was going to say what do
you, what do you like better?
Cause there is no in between.
Right, you're just chilling oryou're working and you're busy.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Exactly.
There's no in between.
And so something my mom saidwas that she's like I kind of
think you could have it all,like I think you can do it all,
like you can have both.
But she's also not into thehustle version of me, like she
doesn't get it Like.
She's like why do you want tohave a job?
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Like why do you want to work?
And I'm like I don't know, Ilike, I like it, I like working.
So I mean, maybe that willchange someday, but I don't know
, it's just.
I think it's just like how I'mwired, it's all I know.
But, um, anyway, what's newwith you, jason?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
uh, let's see, I don't know.
I mean, things here have gottena little busier.
You know, I built a new studioon the other side of the office
space.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It looks gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So it's like you have this amazing space and then you
also have another version ofwhere somebody else like you
could do a different interview.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, because not everyone likes to be sitting in
like chairs and having liketheir knees exposed and then
like a talk show they want moreof like.
The other room was more likestools and a high table.
You can either stand or sit ona stool and it's a little more
like Studio vibes yeah, studio,maybe like I don't know you can
do food stuff there too.
Well, I was planning on doinglike product reviews.
Oh, because I have a cameramounted to the ceiling that
(05:41):
faces down at the desk so I can,like you know, show products
and things that I use.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh my, gosh, that would be so great for like
testing things out, like opening, unboxing things Right, Exactly
.
Oh man, oh, that sounds so Iwant to just do that.
I think that sounds like such agood idea.
I went to Sephora you know themakeup, obviously you've
probably been there a milliontimes for your beautiful face.
Um, I went to Sephora yesterdayand I bought all this makeup and
(06:05):
I was like, when I came back tothe apartment, I was like, oh,
I should just I should do somekind of official like unboxing
Cause.
I'm sure people will be like,oh, what did you buy?
And like, how does it workWhenever?
And I, yeah, so that that thatwould be great for that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, that's like how I built this place, because I
feel like things easy, like todo things like that for people,
so incorporating that into thenew room.
Someone can come in with aproduct and do a quick product
video and then just take off ifthey wanted to yeah, that's
amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh my god, this, this space, has evolved so much
because the a couple years ago,when I first came, when you
first like built it, you werebuilding it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You were like.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You were one of the first you were literally like
taking it from nothing andturning it into this wonderful
studio and it's so lived in nowand you see all the guests,
polaroids on the wall and yousee just all the little
knickknacks and things and it'sjust like it feels like an
apartment, like you said earliertoday it's lived in now, yeah,
yeah I love that and it's just,it's, it's definitely like an
(07:01):
amazing space and um yeah, soI'm happy for you well, thanks,
yeah, things are.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Things have been going okay.
You know, I could, if you want,I can.
Uh, I could talk smack about myneighbors.
Oh, please do.
They're still annoying me, okay, so back up your apartment has
been a point of contention for awhile.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
There's just been lots of issues.
There's always something goingon.
There's people leaving theirtrash in the apartment hallway,
like all kinds of annoyingthings happen.
The noise Didn't you have somecrazy noise?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
thing I want to preface this.
I want to start off saying like, I love my apartment, I love my
living space, I love thebuilding, I like where it is.
You know I have a couple ofgarages to keep all my cars, so
like the situation.
Situation itself for me isgreat, I love it, but it's just
all the outside influence.
Like you know, I lived in thecity growing up in an apartment
building.
It's like, you know you have it.
You have a couple bad neighborscome in and out and that can
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destroy, you know, the entireexperience of living where you
live so over the past uh, year,year and a half.
just recently, I guess all myneighbors, I guess during covid
they were all know makingchildren at the same time,
because now, all of a sudden,just in my immediate section of
my hallway there's like four orfive new children under the age
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of one.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh no, All at the same time.
Oh no, yeah.
And you're just the scrooge.
Well, first who's like thesekids?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, back in the day , when you came here like a
couple years ago it was, it wasum, a lot of dogs barking.
It was people going to work foreight hours a day and then
leaving all their dogs at home.
So I was dealing with thesepoor, lonely dogs in these
apartments without dog walkerscoming crying and barking yeah
all day long, while I'm in myapartment, you know, trying to
work or sleep or whatever thecase may be now.
(08:40):
It's now.
I can't even complain becauseit's children, yeah, but you
know, I don't know how do youfeel about this?
I have they walk their kidsdown the hallway at eight in the
morning and they're screamingto the kid and the little kid is
like maybe two and he's runningdown the hallway, or three,
stomping his feet running downthe hallway and they're
screaming to each other atopposite ends of the hallway
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like come on, come on, come on,billy Bob come on, I'm laying in
bed, I'm going again, and everymorning she takes the kid to
school, I guess.
So it was every morning at eight, eight, 30 in the morning.
I'm going to woke up now.
Every morning.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, I wouldn't be able to deal.
I don't like kids, I don't.
I don't like.
I mean I have little nephewsand a little niece, my sisters
all have all these kids and Ilike them.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You don't like other people's kids.
You don't like strangers' kids.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah.
I don't like kids just beingannoying, I don't.
But I think worse is theparents.
I don't like parents that areannoying, that are making the
kids annoying, because I thinkkids are kind of the reflection
of the parent, right, and I'mfrom a generation in my
household where my parents werevery be seen and not heard, like
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if we went out to dinner and Iwas being obnoxious, my dad
would my parents would just ripme out of my chair, take me
outside and say you're going toyou're, you're going home.
Like it was unacceptable.
So when I see other parents whoare just so like just the
opposite of that, that just lettheir kids kind of run around
and be loud and they're loud, uh, it drives me crazy.
So I would be losing my mind ifI were you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's, you know it's rough because it's like, um, you
gotta be careful.
Like if you address thesepeople, like I can go to the
office and I could tell them tosend them a letter, but then
people don't read them and theydon't care.
But like you, you know I'veaddressed people before and you
know sometimes they take it thewrong way oh, yeah, and they get
super physical and defensive.
But yeah, but last night I'mleaving and I see the husband of
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the of the wife who's beentaking her kid to school every
morning and uh, I said to himhey, man, you know, um, don't
take this the wrong way, butbecause my other neighbors have
also told me they hear them andof course I'm the person that
always says something cause Idon't care, so I told him, I
said, listen, yeah, your wife's,I guess I'm taking the kid to
school every morning and they're, and it's not just the child,
your child screaming, your son,it's, it's, they're screaming to
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each other, which is weird.
And you know they such a weirdanswer.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It was almost, he told me, to f myself yeah,
without telling me what I can doabout it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And then I was just like normal.
J I'm like listen, bro, I don'tneed to co-parent your kid.
All right, I mean, if you wantme to come out in the hallway
and get involved, I mean I will.
I mean, but, like you know,there's got to be a way just to
like not wake everybody up everysingle day at 8, 30 in the
morning, because, like, I'm nottrying to wake up every morning
at 8 30 and then 20 minuteslater he comes home and guess
what, what?
(11:24):
it's not early but it's like.
You know, it's like eighto'clock at night.
But he's coming down the wholehallway and he's screaming like
I don't know, I forgot the kid'sname, but he's.
Let's say he's going come on,johnny, let's go knock on the
door.
Let's go knock on the door,johnny, let's go say hi to mommy
.
And he's like yelling.
And I'm sitting on my couchwith, actually, my headsets on
listening to music and throughmy headsets I hear him like
(11:45):
right outside my door.
He's.
Then I hear him, I hear likeand the little kid knock for
mommy knock okay, this woulddrive me out of my mind yeah,
and it's just like and I don'tknow if he's doing this, because
, because, you said somethinglike I said something?
or is he doing this because,like he just doesn't think it's
late and he can just do what hewants in the hall?
But I was brought up living inapartment buildings.
My mom would make me like walkmy bike in the hallway, not be
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loud in the hallway.
She, like you know, explain tome as a child other people live
behind these doors.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Maybe you know we had .
We had a neighbor who was apoliceman and he, I know we, my
mom's, like oh, josh dave worksnights, so just you know he's
sleeping during the day becausehe lived off the elevator Like I
remember these things.
So it's like but these, these,these new parents there's like
no barometer for anything.
Trust me.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay, so my apartment is underneath a family and it's
like little kid, a little kidand a couple and they every hour
of the day I hear it's.
It's incredible.
Oh, they're running, they'rerunning, running back and forth,
just scurrying across the floorand it's so loud that I decided
I have this method and I'm surethis is.
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I don't know if this is just umfueling the fire and I wonder if
they do it more when I hearloud stomping, okay I stop, I
take my arm and I bang the walllike bang, bang, bang, bang,
bang at the same, like they'redoing it, and then I kind of
call in response.
So it's like I hear the soundand I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
bang back and it's like my wayof saying that if it's, if it's
loud for me, I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I'm telling you because sometimes they might not
be aware, and I get thatbecause I have a neighbor on the
other side of me yeah who slamsall of her kitchen cabinets
like I don't know who goes intheir kitchen cabinets that
often?
Yeah, but she slams them fromlike eight in the morning to
like three in the morning.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
She's like must be going for snacks at 2 am and I
hear like the thing open.
I hear it smash closed, I hearthe drawers open, I hear the
drawers smash closed and she hasno idea though that it's so
loud.
That.
I hear it she probably.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I have like a very heightened sense of sound where
I'm like tiptoeing and I'malways thinking can someone hear
me?
And my, am I chewing loud, LikeI'm always thinking this if I'm
hyper, hyper focused, and so Ijust like I'm amazed by the
people who just don't, are notaffected by that, that just like
they don't have that sense ofawareness.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I get it.
It's exhausting and it's funny.
I don't want to be like whatthe kids call a Karen.
Listen if you're in yourapartment and you're doing
whatever.
Okay, you're in your apartment.
What am I going to do?
I can't get mad if you're inyour apartment, If you're in the
hallway, like in front of mydoor.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
F off.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, then it's like you know you can do what you
want in your um.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
A look like I'll one time I went outside and I the
windows were.
It's probably a little creepy,but the windows were open and I
went outside and I looked at thewindow and I just did like a
huh because it was just so loudoh, and I just went out and I
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just did a little, a little likehuh, like what's going on up
there?
and I also it's like, iseverything okay?
Because like, how are you thisloud all the time?
But yeah, it's obnoxious, I, Ican't stand it.
It's a new generation of peoplewho are loud.
And yeah, you're, maybe you'rekaren, maybe I'm a karen.
Uh, you could be a jaren, jaren.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It just depends on the noise because my listen, I'm
sandwiched between a whole lotgoing on my my other neighbor,
who we share my bedroom wall, somy head is leaning on the wall
that he's working in his officenext door to my bedroom.
So he's he's a streamer and hehas like a million plus now subs
on youtube wow, but he'sworking.
He's like reacting to, to likewhatever he's watching with like
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whoever's watching him.
So he's in there, he's watching, he's screaming, he's laughing,
he's cursing, he's yelling.
But it's like it bothered meuntil I knew what he was doing,
like the guy's working, yeah, soit's like okay, now I know it's
yeah he's being pretty, he'snot just being a dick, he's just
sitting there and he's workingand he's entertaining and he's.
So I get it.
So I can't get mad at that yeahbecause he's like doing
something productive.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He's not just sitting there screaming at the wall,
just being annoying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And he has a schedule .
Yeah, he's told me and then youknow yeah.
So I know it's at 11 am, so aslong as I'm not sleeping at 11
am, yeah, totally.
But I hear him through my wholeapartment though.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh, that is so frustrating, that would drive me
crazy.
I wear earplping and stuff, butit's still frustrating.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I can't wear earplugs .
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm used to it.
I needed to because I just amso sensitive that I'm just
constantly wearing them.
But yeah, sounds are annoying.
People who are loud areannoying.
Please don't be loud.
Please don't be loud, neighbor.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's just annoying.
It's weird how my brain, whileI sleep, it knows the difference
between annoying sounds andlike regular sounds.
I live by a train.
A block Train doesn't wake meup ever.
Train passes all night andnever wakes me up.
I live behind a bus depot.
The buses don't really wake meup.
It's the people my brain knowswhile I'm sleeping.
The annoying people.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That wakes me up.
I do get sensitive to sirensbecause I hear sirens a lot and
I'm just like whatever it's NewYork, but that's the life I
chose when I'm here.
I'm like whatever that's like.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You don't hear that in Texas, but sure that was like
when I grew up in Queens.
I live right by the 112 andthose.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That was an active precinct yeah, yeah, you always
they would always come up anddown.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
New Yorkers are just.
We just get put through themill with sounds which is like
so you?
Oh, my god.
The best was when they wereredoing the street at like two
in the morning, jackhammeringall night long, loud jack
hammering, and I'm just likewhat is anyone supposed to do?
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
what do you do anything?
What do you hear in Texas whenyou're sleeping?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
what do I hear?
I hear the sound of sweetnothing, absolutely nothing but
um.
But that's also like I got intothis weird habit whenever I'm
back in Texas, because I havenothing to do, I am nocturnal so
because I have nothing to wakeup for.
So I'll just like it's not.
Like.
Like when I'm back in Texasbecause I have nothing to do, I
am nocturnal so because I havenothing to wake up for.
So I'll just like it's not.
Like.
Like when I'm here, I like Igotta go to bed, or else I like
I need to go to bed, wake up.
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You know, I have a routinethere.
I just am up and then I fallasleep and I'll.
If I wake up randomly in thenight, like at three in the
morning, um, I have a treadmilland I'll just jump on the
treadmill at three in themorning and just do exercise
because I can't sleep and I'mlike maybe this will make me
tired, and then it doesn't, andthen I stay awake and so then
I'm sleeping during the day andit's a bad schedule.
(17:53):
It's definitely like, nothealthy, but yeah, so it's like
a different kind of form ofinsomnia where it's not from
sounds, it's just from havingnothing to do.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Well, my rules for for getting an apartment now
anywhere would be top floor ifavailable.
Um, definitely you want tospend some time in that
apartment, if you can get intothe one that you know you're
looking to rent, yeah find outwho the neighbors are, if you
can yeah, listen for anything,yeah knock on the walls because,
like the building I'm in now,there's no insulation between
apartments.
There's nothing, wow I said,there was a flood in one of the
other units and like they had tocut the wall to like you know,
air it out there's nothing.
Insulation between apartments?
There's nothing.
I saw there was a flood in oneof the other units and like they
had to cut the wall to, likeyou know, air it out.
(18:27):
There's nothing in the wall.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Wow, empty space and they use those tin.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
you know metal studs.
There's no wood, it's just twopieces of a sheet rock and a
piece of tin.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Wow, blocking me.
When was the building built?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
no-transcript.
Big pile of wood waiting toburn down.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, so one of the so like every time I've come
back and forth to New York, Iwould have sublets in different
neighborhoods, especially in thebeginning of the year.
Now I'm in, like you know, Ihave a more consistent place,
but I was in Soho and I was onthe busiest street in Soho, like
Prince and what was it?
Like Prince and Mulberry.
So I was in this really busyblock like tons of tourists.
(19:19):
There would be concerts, likeon the weekend outside my window
, like on the fire escape.
I could like just it was aconcert.
That's cool.
It's cool if you don't livethere, because it's just like-
Well, did you hear stuff inside?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I could hear everything.
Well, listen right now we areon the one of the busiest
corners in Rockville Center.
We have Sunrise Highway, wehave a train.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And we're on a basic corner where everyone's honking
and yelling right outside with.
Dirty Taco.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, you don't really hear much in here because
the building was built in 1906.
Yeah, it's brick, yeah thesewindows are double pane.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And you know there's about 30 kids downstairs right
now.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right and we get here and it's not really loud in
here.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The way they build these newer buildings is just
you know you know.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The other thing I noticed, especially in my Soho
apartment, was how I'm.
I didn't know how sensitive Iwas to smoke and I like.
So you know, obviously I'm notsmoking in my apartment.
I don't smoke anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But it was.
There was so much smoke comingin from off the street of people
just outside like restaurantworkers smoking cigarettes and
the weed smoke from neighborsand stuff, and that drove me
crazy, cause it's like you'regoing to bed and then you just
smell smoke in your like youknow, in the pillow, like so
gross.
(20:33):
I hate the smell of smoke somuch now and I just yeah that,
that like that's another newyork thing that I'm just like
disgusted by I can agree withyou on that, because also me,
being an ex smoker, don't likeit.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But when you travel abroad, everyone smokes and
you're sitting at a restauranteating and someone's right next
to you smoking as you're eatingand like they think, it's just.
No, that's just what everyonedoes that's what I want to die.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But I also noticed, like the weed smoke thing not
cigarette smoke, but weed smokeis so much more common in the
streets because it's like legalnow and so everyone's just
smoking weed on the street.
And I hate that smell, like Ijust I don't like it.
I like I'm just not into it.
So I'm just it just makes melike ugh, gross.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It is pretty gross.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But anyway, so loud neighbors, that's annoying.
Um and uh.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's like there's pros andcons to new york but like,
luckily I feel like the prosoutweigh the cons and it's just
like it's.
It's the place to be, likesomeone said to me at work.
They were like new york city,like yeah, there's like the
streets smell like garbage, thisand that it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Everything is here everything is here ever need and
then it's also a hub to getanywhere exactly so it really is
just you know yeah, it really.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It made me appreciate new york so much when I, when
I'm away, because I'm just like,oh, like you, just I take it
for, I took it for granted, how,how amazing it is.
But then the other thing isit's just like my career and my
line of work doesn't existanywhere else, like, especially,
like I was talking, thinkingabout how, like the layers of
communities that I've built,from little fashion model to, uh
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, working on the other side ofthe camera and then like my
running community and myformerly my yoga community, and
like all these different friendsthat I've made all along the
way, uh, my sob, my sobrietycommunity, like everybody, I
just don't have that layer, likeall these different, like
levels of friendships that justlike run deep of people who have
known me for over a decade.
I don't have that anywhere elseand I think, like that's part
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of it too, is like, if you'refrom somewhere, you just you
naturally just have a lot morefriends, um, in that place.
So that's something that I'vehad to come to terms with,
because I meet people in Texasand they're really nice, but
they don't understand me becausethey just don't know me, like
I'm new, you know.
But so, yeah, that's somethingthat I definitely miss when I'm
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there, but it is what it is.
You know, it's just how life isright now, but it is what it is
.
You know, it's just how life isright now.
But that said, um, kids,speaking of annoying kids,
something you asked me in thebeginning when I we, when I came
into the studio today, was doyou want kids?
Are you thinking about kids?
And it's a, it's a greatquestion, because I am 35, I'm
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35 and a half you're like a babythe clock is ticking for these
uh eggs and I thought about.
I was like, do I need to, likefreeze my eggs?
I asked my gynecologist um, soI had surgery this summer.
I don't know if you knew that,but I had to.
I got my first surgery where Ihad to go under and, um, because
I basically I went to the, Igot health insurance in the
beginning of the summercongratulations thank you.
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It was a big step and I went toa gynecologist because I needed
to just go get a checkup andwithin five seconds of sitting
on the um chair with the thingup the thing you know how
gynecologists work um, she goesoh my gosh, uh, yeah, yeah, you
have to, you have to get theseum things removed.
And so I had to go.
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I had to get surgery like a fewweeks later and I was like, oh
my god, I have to go on.
I've never done.
Have you ever gone under?
yeah, once or twice okay, so youknow what it's about.
Yeah it's not great I mean, Iwas raised a christian scientist
where we don't have doctors andmedicine.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So like that alone, like going to a doctor's office,
scares the hell out of me, mymom didn't like doctor, like
I've broken bones and they'veset naturally, because my mom
was like yeah, you're fine,exactly that's.
That is the.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Christian science way too.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
So you guys are like I'll show you my thumb again
after it's like crooked yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So I had to get surgery and I was super spooked
out and I was like, oh my God,this is going to be crazy.
But luckily everything wentfine, whatever.
But I did ask my gynecologist.
I was like, do I need to thinkabout this?
Because she had recommendedfreezing my eggs for just in
case.
Yeah, of course.
And it's definitely like aconversation because I'm like
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I'm sure so many women thesedays are like you get to this
age and you're just like, well,what am I supposed to do?
Do I just go for it?
And I'm like, is this what I'msupposed to do?
And I've asked people, likeI've talked to people a lot
about like their decision tohave kids or not have kids.
I read this amazing book calledWomen Without Children by Ruby
Warrington and it just talkingabout the women who choose to
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not have kids.
That choice isn't made for thembecause of fertility issues,
it's because they just don'twant to.
And that, like that is kind ofa movement of people who are
like we're finally in an era ofuh, the you know in for women,
where you don't have to, likeit's not your, it doesn't have
to be your only purpose, whereas, like for hundreds and hundreds
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and thousands of years, that'swhat women did.
So it is an interestingconversation, um, but like I
always go back to thinking likeI got this far and it took so
much to get here, where I'm likekind of doing great, like where
everything just seems to bereally good, like life is
falling into place, and then I'mlike do I throw in a wild card?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
no, kids are crap shoots, you just don't know.
You don't know if you're gonnaget a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You don't know if you're gonna.
You don't just don't know.
You don't know if you're goingto get a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
You don't know if you're going to.
You don't know if it's anything.
You don't know if it's going tocome out good.
Even you don't know you don'tknow, you know anything, so
nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And it's like it just blows my mind that people just
do it all the I'm way toocalculated where I just would
want to control everything, andthe thought of like my body
changing like that and havinglike having to change and take
care.
I mean I've heard that it canbe wonderful.
I've heard that it can behorrible.
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I mean my mom had five babiesin three and a half years.
So she, she's like it was funand, like you know, I had a
great time having kids.
It was not, it wasn't bad atall.
And I'm like, okay, well, Idon't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I don't know either, and I feel like I've gotten a
little older now.
I don't know.
I don't even know.
Like I said, I'm not even sureI don't know.
Listen, I guess you don't knowtill you know.
But I mean, I'm not nothing'soff the off the board, but yeah,
I mean you could.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I feel like it could also be just such a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, I mean you wake up and be like oh my God, I
can't do this sooner.
Or I could be like oh my God, Ijust ruined my entire life.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, and you can't really say so.
If you have a kid that you'rekind of like, oh, you can't
really say it.
I mean, I think I would be likewhat weird conversation to have,
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and I've definitely beenthinking like, okay, I got to
figure this out, but luckily so.
I work with a few amazing womenwithout children and like this
one photographer I'm thinking ofand another stylist, and they
represent a certain kind ofperson that I'm like, okay, they
, they're so cool to me, and oneof them is very much like I
never wanted kids my entire lifeand like they always knew that
and I like I like having theexamples in my life of like,
okay, this is a path that peopledo and they're happy with it.
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So yeah, but yeah, so that'ssomething that I've been kind of
thinking about, especiallyafter I had my surgery, and I
was like what is the meaning oflife?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
But um, so you've been thinking about it, yeah,
and what'd you come up with?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
great question.
I also kind of thought like Imight I could be one of those
people I've said this at workbefore where I'm like I could be
one of those people who, like,if it was an accident, like if,
if it's supposed to happen andit was an accident, maybe I
would just roll with that.
Is that that bad?
No, it's not bad.
Because I think my sisters wereaccidents.
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So my mom got pregnant with me.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I know a couple women who've gotten pregnant like
that by mistake.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like in their around your age, yeah.
And then she was like, or a fewof them were like.
You know, I've always wanted akid.
It wasn't even with the rightguy.
She was like, or a few of themwere like.
You know, I've always wanted akid.
It wasn't even with the rightguy.
She was like I just I've alwayswanted a kid, yeah, why would I
do something I had?
Now I'm pregnant.
So I'm just going to have thiskid regardless, Cause I just now
it's my, I guess I'm just goingto do that, yeah, Instead of
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like maybe getting an abortionRight ever come yeah, you try
and then you can't.
So I don't know.
It's just a yeah, so that's.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
The thing is like yeah, so because, like with my
sisters, my mom didn't, shewasn't planning to have five
kids, she was planning to havelike two, and then, damn, she
had me.
And then, 11 months later,twins, and then, a couple years
later, twins and, like thesecond batch of twins, my dad,
that's so crazy my dad, I askedmy mom.
I was like what happened?
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like you might have twins well,maybe, but like that's also more
terrifying.
But my mom said that it wassuch a shock when she got the
ultrasound, when she found outshe was pregnant with the second
, um, second pair of twins and Iwas just like how, how, anyway?
So I just it, it's like itcould happen as an accident and
I would just roll with it maybe.
(29:40):
But you know, I just also likethink about myself and my
lifestyle.
I'm like I'm just such a Idon't know, I'm just so all over
the place, like look at megoing back and forth to Texas
all the time, like I'm like I'mnever in one place for very long
.
So I guess a lot of my lifewould have to change.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean well, you could be.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I could if I had like a responsibility of a life to
raise.
But and also, who knows, maybemy kid could be really cool and
I could teach them all kinds offun things.
But um, because that part seemskind of fun, like teaching
someone your life experiences,like the way my dad was with me
and I know you relate to thiswhere it's like if you've had a
parent that you've lost and youthink about the memories you
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have with them when you go.
Where do those memories go?
Like it's passing it on alongthe generations?
So I think about all the thingsmy dad taught me and I'm like,
oh, I want to teach things thathe taught me to someone else,
like I want to keep it alive,you know.
So there's something in that tooyeah, just gotta hope the kid
likes things that you like yeahotherwise it's disastrous yeah,
(30:40):
and like it's hard in the momentto realize, like the things my
dad was teaching me, it's a newworld.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now you might have a kid who's just, you know, not
like not perceptive not like meor you, they're just very
different yeah, yeah and youcan't relate.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And then, yeah, like what if they just like hate
everything that I've ever doneand they're like mom, you don't
know anything, so you never knowwhat you're going to get?
But, yeah, kids, it's somethingto think about for sure.
But, um, that said, uh, I wouldlike to get into some questions
that I guess are relevant tolike my life changing a lot,
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cause there's been a lot ofchanges in my life.
Like, I feel like last time Iwas here, I was still very much
focused on running and whateverelse I don't know, but like
that's changed, like I'm, I'm Ikind of don't identify as the
kind of runner that I was.
Like, I'm, kind of I was sointo it.
I was like life or death, likerunning is everything.
But then that kind of shifted,which I think just happens with
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life, like things, you, youchange your priorities and you
start focusing on other things.
I got really into working and Ijust, like you know, I just
kind of put all my energy intothat.
But, um, yeah, so, so there wasa.
There's a list of questionsthat I feel like you should have
the honor of asking let me seethe honor from instagram.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Well, this is yeah, it's all.
It's a lot of running stuff.
Let's go um.
I'm reading them for the firsttime.
All right, let's start.
What are your running shoerecommendations?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
oh man, I don't like.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
This is also kind of a funny question I feel like I
should have should have askedthis one last yeah, because
Cause like well, so I did justdo.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I've done some ads in the past year.
There's a few modeling jobs,but I did a new balance campaign
where I was running in some newbalance shoe.
It's like a racing shoe Likethanks, new balance.
Like thanks for having me inyour ad.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I bought my first pair of new balances.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh I bought my first pair of New Balances.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Oh, and you're wearing New Balances.
Yeah, I bought my first pairthis month.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, so here you go.
You can relate to this.
You're not necessarily a runner, but yeah so like I.
But the funny thing is iseveryone was asking me are these
the shoes that you run in?
And I was like, well, I do runin New Balances, not these kind
of racing shoes that I did thead for, but I do run in this.
I have one pair of New Balances, the Fuel Cell V3s, that I just
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use for everything for stairclimbing, for incline walking,
for everything.
I just like them and I do runin them.
But I'm not like finicky aboutshoes.
Like I know you're a shoe guy,like you love, like your shoe
collection stuff.
I don't really care about shoes, I'm just like, whatever these
work and I stuck with them foryou it's like a tool yeah it's
like when you put tires on a car.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
It's like you, you're putting specific tires on the
car because you're doingsomething specific yeah, yeah,
you're looking for a shoe thatperforms.
You're not just gonna go walkaround and yeah look at my shoes
yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
It's like I don't even care what they look like, I
don't care what color they are,I just get them because I know
that they work.
But so, yeah, I'm not like tooobsessed with like the gear,
like I'm not trying out the newshoes, like I've tried out new
shoes in shoots, but I'm justlike you know, like I wore some
asics that were brand new, thatwere some cool fast shoot and
they're bouncy, but I'm like I'mnot really like too obsessed
with shoes.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Have you ever tried those Nikes that I heard got
banned from the marathon?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, carbon, I raced in them,
so it's because they were tootall.
But they're only banned on thetrack, they're not banned in the
actual marathon.
But yeah, yeah, and I've tried.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Do they help?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, definitely They've helped.
They've helped a lot andthey've Records are dropping so
much Like people are breakingrecords at every race because
the shoe technology has gottenso good that it just is making
people significantly faster.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I think I read something somewhere that
somebody ran like a marathon inthe States and like some really
weird pair of sneakers, likesomething that would destroy
your feet, like almost likeCrocs.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh yeah, people do marathons in Crocs.
The record for the Crocmarathon was just set at the new
york marathon did you just saythe croc marathon?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
what does that even mean?
Well, they were wearing crocsthe entire marathon so you mean
they they time croc racersdifferently, or there's a
separate like?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
it just was like an official world record of like
crocs wearing crocs in amarathon, which was silly what a
croc.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
seriously, what a load of crock.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So, um, yeah, so shoe stuff, I don't, I don't know,
I'm not very finicky, I justwear those new balances and I'm
good.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
What do you eat?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
What do I eat?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
after a long run or a short run or a day off, like
what are you eating?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh, man, what's?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
on the menu.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Cheeseburgers, I don't know.
I've just been eating kind ofrandom, Like.
Let me just paint this pictureof what I had for dinner last
night.
Sure, and I've been, I've beentraining even though I'm not
racing right now, I have beenkeeping a really good base and
I've been going hard, but incross training, like I do like a
lot of stair climbing and a lotof incline running, and so I go
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really hard and I've beeneating weird things like usual
for me, I guess, Cause I'vealways eaten kind of strange.
But um, like last night fordinner I had a dozen oysters,
cause I went out to dinner withmy friends and I had a dozen
oysters, and then I came homeand I was like I'm still kind of
hungry, so I ate a lot ofraisins, and then I had Arctic
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zero ice cream, which is likethat vegan ice cream that I'm
obsessed with, and somechocolate, and that was my
dinner and it was like it waslike oysters, raisins, Arctic
zero and chocolate and it wasperfect.
It was amazing.
I was like this is deliciousand um, but typically I've just
been eating lots of like mytypical steamed vegetables, fish
, tofu, avocado, uh, nuts, butum, tofu, avocado, uh, nuts, but
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um, but you know me and thesteamed vegetables which I'm
actually like, so excited we'regoing to go get dinner after
this, because I'm very excitedwhat?
is the Thai place called.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's called Tom Thai.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Tom Thai.
Oh it's so good they have my,my steamed vegetables.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And when he lives in my building and he's my neighbor
, he does not make any noise.
He's the best, he good, he's aquiet one.
Yeah, he's on my side.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Nice yeah.
So you know, just like thatstuff, I feel like I've been
diversifying a little bit, whereI like I don't know just eating
like a little bit more avocado,if I'm feeling like, oh yeah,
hummus, Like I'm very much intohummus, but do you like hummus?
You're like, you're a yeah,what is it called Omnivore?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yes, I just eat whatever whatever's in front of
me.
If I'm hungry, it's okay.
What else we got here.
Nice list of questions.
How has your training changedover the years and how do you
feel about it?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh, that's a great question, thanks, so thanks.
I think this was from a personnamed Sasha.
So shout out, sasha.
Um, so shout out, sasha.
I think they live in Germany,um, and they uh sent me this
question.
So I have been, uh, I used toreally focus on running, only
training towards a specificdistance, so like a 10 K or a
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half or a marathon, and thatlooked like lots of running and
a little bit of cross training.
Now I do a lot of crosstraining and a little bit of
running, so I run a very highquality mileage, but a lot less
mileage, and I'll do my.
Cross training is very serious,though.
So, like, my favorite favoritething in the entire world right
now is stair climbing, and I'vealways loved stair climbing, but
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now I do that most days of theweek where I'm just climbing at
fastest hell, pace balls to thewall, stair climbs where I'm
trying to, at fastest hell, paceballs to the wall, stair climbs
where I'm trying to hit acertain number of floors per
hour.
That I equate to the samefeeling that I would have when I
would run really fast, so likewhen I would do 10 miles in an
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hour on the weekends when I wastraining just for running.
This feels like that, if notharder, and so that's why I love
it, cause I just love like justtraining really hard and just
you know, like puttingeverything into a stair climb.
And I treat it almost like Idid with those runs where I
would like set the pace and likedo a progression where it's
like starts a little bit slowerand it gets really fast at the
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end, so that it averages thislike certain a hundred steps per
minute and um, yeah, so I meanthat's what I did this morning
and it felt amazing and I loveit.
And um, so stair climbing ishow my training is right now,
like I should be running a stairrace or something, cause like
there is one like in March, butbut yeah, have you ever done the
one to the top of the EmpireState Building?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
haven't, but I would love to.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
My friend Amy for you .
She does it every year.
Oh cool, the fireman climb,yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard
about that.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, my friend really wants me to do one of
those because he's also obsessedwith stair climbing.
He's the only other person Iknow in the world that does
stair climbing as much as I do,so I think it's a great exercise
.
I mean, it's great activity andI think it's like so
challenging, and so I lovethings that like and make me
feel like I'm accomplishingsomething amazing to make the
rest of the day a little biteasier, where I'm like, do
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something really hard, get itover with, it's going to suck
for an hour, and then the restof the day I feel awesome.
So that's how my training hasbeen looking.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I walked up some stairs today.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
You did, you walked up some.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, when we got here, yeah, two flights of
stairs, and I did it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That's like four floors.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Isn't that great.
That's four more than I wouldhave done if I didn't come here.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
What else we got.
We got all right, you ready.
How do you set goals foryourself these days?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Oh man.
So it used to be that my goalswere like races, Like okay, I'm
training for a race, but now mygoals have been a lot more about
career and I have some biggoals.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Like, I really want to publish a book.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Are you waking up and running anymore?
I?
Do wake up and run yeah, everyday, pretty much yeah, or run or
stair climb yeah, I wake up andexercise every day.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Sorry if I missed that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, every day Wake up train.
Yeah, wake up train every day.
That's always happening, okay.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
No matter what, I'm sorry.
All right, you're publishing abook.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Publish a book.
That's a big goal of mine thatI would love to do.
That's always been on my list,way before I was ever a runner.
I'm like I want to write a book.
I've been writing a book andnow I'm just trying to package
it in a way that's a cohesivestory to tell, because I think I
have a really great story LikeI think that there's something
about my life where I'm likethis is unusual and I want to
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share what I've learned with theworld of like hey, you can
rewrite the narrative and startover and do something completely
different from what you weredoing, and like learn all these
lessons and stuff.
So I want to publish a book andI really just want to take the
podcast to the next level andlike have amazing guests.
And I feel like earlier todaywe are chipping away at that
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goal because we had a wonderfulepisode with this runner that I
interviewed, and so, yeah, Ijust want to like have that be a
big focus and that's my goal,especially for this next year
2025 is coming up.
And then also just likefocusing on feeling healthy and
like taking care of myself,because after the surgery, I
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also found out that I haveanemia and like these like you
know, things that are underlyingissues, that I'm like I want to
be on top of my health and feelamazing and, you know, like
take care of myself which isn'talways hand in hand with
training really hard, becauseit's like there's also like the
recovery aspect of like okay,well, what, what can I do to
like be eating more well-rounded, to like actually get all the
nutrients and stuff?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
so, yeah, so those are my goals oh man, um what
actually inspires you, uh,motivates what spires and it
motivates.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Uh, I don't think it's what people would think,
because I feel like people likecream yeah, yeah, honestly, I'm
so inspired by a freezer full ofArctic zero ice cream.
They don't sponsor me.
I wish they did.
Um, they know about me.
They're like you're a crazy,you're the.
You have tagged us the mostthan anyone ever.
But, um, I am inspired by that.
(42:05):
Yes, I work hard for it Cause Ijust want to eat it all the
time.
But, um, I think that I'm themost inspired by podcasters that
are doing a lot of content,like I was just thinking about
that.
I was talking about this lastnight with my friend at dinner,
where podcasters that put out acouple episodes a week that are
like three hours long.
I think that's amazing and ittakes so much work and it's like
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that's.
That's kind of like those arethe people that I look up to.
Now.
It used to be.
I was looking up to fastrunners and like people who are
doing like really amazingathletic achievements, but now I
think I look up to podcastersand writers more than anything.
So I watch a few podcastsconstantly, like there's this
one, tricia Paitis.
Uh, she has every week she doesa hot topics episode that's
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about two and a half to threehours long, and then a interview
episode with a guest.
So it's two episodes a week andI watch these like my life
depends on it, like I hang onevery word because I just am so
enamored by, like the amount ofwork that goes into it.
And I do find her just likejust fun to listen to, like a
friend, and I'm like, oh,podcasts can just be like you're
(43:12):
listening to someone that youlike to hang to listen to like a
friend, and I'm like, oh,podcasts can just be like you're
listening to someone that youlike to hang out with and like I
feel like I it's a parasocialrelationship for sure, for sure.
But with Trisha I just I'm like, oh, I have a friend to listen
to, uh, you know, for a couple,for several hours a week, and it
like gets me through my day andit gets me through my commutes
and it's just yeah.
So I look up to podcasters andspecifically to trisha paytas
(43:36):
any other podcastrecommendations?
oh man, I listen to everything.
I listen to probably somecontroversial ones, but um I
don't listen to any.
You don't listen to any oh mygod here I am sitting behind the
desk oh my god, I'm obsessed,you know, tiger belly with Bobby
Lee the comedian.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
I get, like my, my, my little bits of content from
like social media, like I'venever actually sat through a
whole thing, but like yeah,Bobby Lee's hysterical.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh, my God, yeah.
And so I like I just am.
I'm constantly cycling throughlike and even podcasts that I
like rage, listen to.
So it's like a podcast thatmaybe you don't agree with the
host or the guest and you'relike these people, this is like
wrong or like not, maybe likepolitically correct or like
whatever, but I'll still listento it Cause I like I want to
(44:22):
know what everyone's talkingabout.
Like, what is everyone talkingabout?
And especially if something isreally long, I'm like I want to
hear what's so controversial,and not the clips.
I want to listen to the entirething.
So I'll do that and then I um,you know, but then it's kind of
like inside voices when I talkabout it, cause it's like, yeah,
maybe I listened tocontroversial podcasts, but,
like, if I'm on the train, Ilike have to hide what I'm
(44:44):
watching, cause I'm like I don'twant anyone to look over my
shoulder and be like this chickis watching you know who, and
that's a bro, and like you'renot allowed to listen to that
yeah, I don't watch anythinglike regularly, like I have a
couple like I don't know,there's a couple like ones I
find funny, you know, like, uh,like flagrant oh yeah, I was
watching that on the way here.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, I mean a couple of those like, but I don't like
have one that like I like.
Oh, the new one's out yeah, oh,that's I.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I'm the opposite, where it's like I'm counting
down, waiting for an upload, andI just like.
I'm like, oh yes, my life iscomplete, I have three hours of
something to listen to.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I just feel like I'm busy yeah, I have a lot going on
.
So if I'm like, if I have timelike that, like an hour, yeah, I
usually just rather sit infront of my computer.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I'm commuting constantly so I'm just like
because I had that remember, Itold you I had a shoot where,
like two hours to and from,right, right.
It's four hours on the trainand on my commute is 100 feet
yeah, so you don't have the liketime, and I also, when I'm like
, when I'm exercising, I listento podcasts a lot to keep me
company, but that's so.
Yeah, just exercise and you'llhave podcast time interesting
(45:47):
stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I mean I don't know what else we can talk about.
I mean I think we should skipthe dating stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Oh, boy yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Cause that could be another hour.
That's a that's between us atdinner tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, I feel like that's a, that's like it's so
funny.
One time we did a datingpodcast episode.
This is a while ago.
I feel like I should tell thestory.
So like, uh, I had my fairshare of silly like encounters
with men in New York and we dida dating podcast episode and it
made people angry.
It made people who are like alittle too entangled with.
(46:23):
This was like a while ago.
So I feel like it's a safespace now.
There's enough distance.
But like I mean, I feel likethese same people on both of our
sides are still probablycreepily tuning in and like
trying to get information andstuff.
But I just remember like howmad I made somebody because I
was talking objectively aboutdating and like red flags and
(46:43):
things that people do, and I waslike thinking of this person
and being like it's a red flagif they're DMing other girls,
like wow, blah, blah, blah, andlike there's like secrets with
other.
Like I was talking about thisperson and then they definitely
knew that.
And they were super mad that Iwas talking about it on my
podcast, but that's what you getIf you are a red flag.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, you are the chairman.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Of the red flag committee.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
I do kind of like have a lot of, I've had a lot of
red flags, but I kind of blamethat on New York.
No offense to you, I knowyou're from the queen, from
Queens, and you like you're notthat kind of guy you could talk
in generalities but you know thedeal there there's, there's
exceptions to the rules andthere's you know there's,
there's nice people sprinkled inwith you.
There are so many awful, awfuldating experiences in my lovely
(47:35):
past, but I don't know, it'sjust that's just something that
comes with New York.
There's this, oh, I can't eventalk about it, okay.
Well, I'm going to talk aboutit because I feel like I have to
tell you I'm going to usegeneralities, okay, you know how
, like with my 12 step programthat can't be named because it's
a secret, my 12 step programthat can't be named because it's
a secret, which everyone whoknows knows.
There's something like thatwith dating and I'm going to be
(48:01):
very like, discreet.
It's kind of like a fight clubthing, but it taught, it's kind
of a way for people to vet outguys and like and I want to keep
it very general, cause I don'twant anyone to think I'm
whatever, but in a weird way, Ithink it's the best thing that
could ever happen to New York,cause it's a way for women to
kind of like give you a heads upabout people, and so, that said
(48:23):
, I feel like that's like a.
That's something that'shappened recently because of how
bad and toxic guys are.
Finally, women have been likewait a minute.
We need some kind of analliance where we can share and
like, talk about our experiencesso that you can avoid those
kinds of like missteppings andhaving some kind of a weird
thing happen.
But it also kind of holds guysaccountable where it's like
(48:45):
don't be weird with girlsbecause they're going to talk
about it.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Girls are weird with guys too, though.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
It's true.
I think that there is a versionof what I'm talking about for
the other way, where it's likeguys.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
How do I, how do I become vetted?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I mean I wish I knew for guys, so I don't, but yeah.
So I think that like, yeah, thedating scene in New York is
garbage.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, and here we are , here we are Um, so there's no
other questions, and here we are, here we are, so there's no
other questions.
I think we pretty muchexhausted them yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, I think we're pretty good.
I mean, there's one last one.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Oh, one last one.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
I saved it for the end.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
How do you feel about getting older?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Oh, I don't care.
I don't care at all Like Iabout, like you were talking
about how like I mean, peoplewill see themselves on the
camera or something and they seethey look a certain way and
I've seen how I've changed.
Like I look at myself in areflection.
I've had my picture taken for,however, 20 years, more than
that, like since I was 15 yearsold, I've had, well, yeah, so
exactly 20 years people takingphotos of me just judging my
(49:47):
looks, whatever.
And as I've been changing andgetting older, naturally I do
not care and I think maybe,maybe someday I'll be like, oh,
wrinkles and whatever, but likewe were talking about this at
work with like Botox and stuff,and I'm like I don't, I don't
have any desire to manipulatethis process of getting older.
I'm just kind of fine with itgoing the way that it goes and
(50:11):
hoping that like know, I eatwell and I exercise and that's
the best I could possibly do Ilook at it in a different way.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I don't look at it like because I don't like you, I
don't really care yeah whatever, but it's like as as we get
older, you know, our time hereis becoming smaller.
Yeah, you know, and like myfather died kind of early.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yes, you know my grandfather died kind of early.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah same.
You know, my grandfather diedkind of early.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
My grandmother lived to a hundred and something, so
you know, it's a mixed bag.
It's like when's my time?
Do I have only 20 something?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
years left.
Do I have 50 something yearsleft?
Would you want to know whenyou're going to?
Speaker 1 (50:50):
die What't know that I wouldn't like be so worried
about saving money.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I'd kind of like go out with a bang.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't you're preparing, am I
preparing to have to?
Live and pay rent or have aplace for yeah or not.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
So it's like you know .
So yeah, like I think, when itcomes to getting older, I just
think I do as much as I can doand there's not like, is there
anything you want to do?
I just think I do as much as Ican do.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
And there's not like Is there?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
anything you want to do before you can't do it.
Well, I think-.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Any trips you want to take, yeah, any goals you want
to-.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, I mean there's stuff on my list, but I'm also
just thinking as far as, like,the feeling of being older, like
it doesn't terrify me, and Ialso think about all my friends,
which includes you, of peoplewho are pushing like 50 or like
I have friends who are a lot ofmy really, really good friends,
(51:40):
are in that age bracket andyou're not there yet, but like I
and I look at them and I'm like, oh, they're like they're,
they're having the times oftheir lives.
So like I'm not afraid of likedifferent numbers.
I mean, maybe I'll feeldifferently.
But even my mom, like after mydad passed away, my mom had a
second chapter.
She's 65 and she's still liketraveling.
She does like like living in atiny van, stuff, like things
(52:00):
that you think like a 20 yearold would do.
My mom does.
So that kind of stuff makes methink like there's another
chapter and it's kind of up tolike your own, like mentality
and stuff.
So I'm not too afraid ofgetting older.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
All right.
Well, I think that's all we got, all righty Well, I'm getting
hungry.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, me too I'm starving, so anyway, well, thank
you so much for being theco-host for the show today as
the trusty, rusty, not rustyproducer extraordinaire at
Florida Media, Florida Media,Florida Media.
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
Glad I could.
Sponsored by Florida Media.
Glad I could bring thatenthusiasm.
Producer extraordinaire atflorid media, florid media.
Florid media.
Thanks, glad I could.
Sponsored by florid media.
Glad I could bring thatenthusiasm yeah, for sure about
disliking children.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
And until next time, just be fast, just win and keep
your kids out of the hallway.
This is the Lucy Beatrix podcast.
I'm a fashion model, turnedrunner, turned podcaster, and
today we are at Florida media inLong Island, and this episode
is going to be with my amazingproducer, jason Belsky, and
(00:25):
we're just gonna talk shop andcatch up because it's been a
while.
I just finished recording aninterview with an athlete and
now it's time for us to justtake our hair down and let loose
, because I actually haven'tbeen at this studio in a year,
(00:46):
like a year and some change.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's been a year and some change.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And a lot's happened.
So much has happened.
I think I was here after I hadmoved to Texas and I came back
and I was raving about Texasbeing like it's just amazing,
wasn't I?
I feel like that was the lasttime we talked.
Really.
It was like, oh, texas is soawesome and everything's going
great.
But yeah, jason mentioned, uh,that I went out there for
(01:12):
running initially and thatlasted a few months, and then I
was like I'm not really runningas much.
I'm not doing the same kind ofrunning that I was doing when I
was training really hard Like Ihad been in 2022, and then I
kind of stuck around.
But my dilemma was that my jobis in New York city and so the
(01:36):
entire time that I was in Texas,I was coming back to New York
every few months and stayinghere for months at a time, and
those trips got longer andlonger for work.
And suddenly I realized it'sbeen, you know, three quarters
of the year has gone by and I'vebeen in New York working, even
though most of my stuff is stillin Texas.
So I'm kind of like living intwo places at once right now.
(01:57):
But yeah, so that's why Ihaven't really been here.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, welcome back.
Welcome back, and I didn'treally been here.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Well, welcome back Welcome, back Welcome.
I didn't forget about you.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, maybe a little bit, it's all right.
Well, I let my hair down a fewyears ago and I'm still trying
to figure out where I left itwhen I let it down.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well, yeah, so it's been kind of a long time, but I
mean, I don't know, life has itsebbs and flows.
I think it's really good fornew yorkers especially people
I've was here for almost 20years to like go and leave and
then like get a sense of why newyork means as much to me as it
does true, and and you were inlike, you weren't like in, you
(02:38):
weren't in like a city, you werein a little bit of a suburb,
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So what are you doing ?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Great question.
People who know me, like mybest friend is.
When I first moved out there,she was like what are you doing?
A lot of people were like whatare you doing?
You are a New Yorker, you'recrazy, you've got all this
energy, you've got so manythings going on here, and so
when I went out there, I feltlike it was kind of like a
sabbatical from my crazy life,and I did.
(03:04):
I think I did need like a breakfrom like the hustle, but it
gets boring really quickly and Iwas realizing like when every
time work would call and they'dbe like can you come do a few
weeks, can you come work on thisshoot?
I missed it so much and I waslike you know, as, as I complain
, I actually really like missbeing in the grind and like
(03:27):
hustling so hard.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So, yeah, so it's been.
It's been interesting adjustingand trying to, like you know,
find my, find my footing again,cause I also felt like when I
left I was like what if I comeback to New York and people
forget about me or I don't knowhow to do my job, like on set,
like what if I'm just like not?
Like what if it's like moved sofast that I like can't keep up
anymore and I'm not like able togrind?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
but you've been coming back and forth yeah, like
so I got I would.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
But like every time, every single time I come back,
I'm like I'm reminded of likehow much energy it takes to just
like live like there's juststep like every step of the day,
like cause I'll wake up reallyearly, go to the gym, get on
train, go to my shoot, come homeand I have barely enough time
to like eat dinner, watch a show, go to bed, like it's like such
a grind here and so it's sodifferent.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
But um, but I love it and I was going to say what do
you, what do you like better?
Cause there is no in between.
Right, you're just chilling oryou're working and you're busy.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Exactly.
There's no in between.
And so something my mom saidwas that she's like I kind of
think you could have it all,like I think you can do it all,
like you can have both.
But she's also not into thehustle version of me, like she
doesn't get it Like.
She's like why do you want tohave a job?
(04:46):
Like why do you want to work?
And I'm like I don't know, Ilike, I like it, I like working.
So I mean, maybe that willchange someday, but I don't know
, it's just.
I think it's just like how I'mwired, it's all I know.
But, um, anyway, what's newwith you, jason?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
uh, let's see, I don't know.
I mean, things here have gottena little busier.
You know, I built a new studioon the other side of the office
space.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It looks gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So it's like you have this amazing space and then you
also have another version ofwhere somebody else like you
could do a different interview.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, because not everyone likes to be sitting in
like chairs and having liketheir knees exposed and then
like a talk show they want moreof like.
The other room was more likestools and a high table.
You can either stand or sit ona stool and it's a little more
like Studio vibes yeah, studio,maybe like I don't know you can
do food stuff there too.
Well, I was planning on doinglike product reviews.
Oh, because I have a cameramounted to the ceiling that
(05:41):
faces down at the desk so I can,like you know, show products
and things that I use.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh my, gosh, that would be so great for like
testing things out, like opening, unboxing things Right, Exactly
.
Oh man, oh, that sounds so Iwant to just do that.
I think that sounds like such agood idea.
I went to Sephora you know themakeup, obviously you've
probably been there a milliontimes for your beautiful face.
Um, I went to Sephora yesterdayand I bought all this makeup and
(06:05):
I was like, when I came back tothe apartment, I was like, oh,
I should just I should do somekind of official like unboxing
Cause.
I'm sure people will be like,oh, what did you buy?
And like, how does it workWhenever?
And I, yeah, so that that thatwould be great for that.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, that's like how I built this place, because I
feel like things easy, like todo things like that for people,
so incorporating that into thenew room.
Someone can come in with aproduct and do a quick product
video and then just take off ifthey wanted to yeah, that's
amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oh my god, this, this space, has evolved so much
because the a couple years ago,when I first came, when you
first like built it, you werebuilding it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
You were like.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You were one of the first you were literally like
taking it from nothing andturning it into this wonderful
studio and it's so lived in nowand you see all the guests,
polaroids on the wall and yousee just all the little
knickknacks and things and it'sjust like it feels like an
apartment, like you said earliertoday it's lived in now, yeah,
yeah I love that and it's just,it's, it's definitely like an
(07:01):
amazing space and um yeah, soI'm happy for you well, thanks,
yeah, things are.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Things have been going okay.
You know, I could, if you want,I can.
Uh, I could talk smack about myneighbors.
Oh, please do.
They're still annoying me, okay, so back up your apartment has
been a point of contention for awhile.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
There's just been lots of issues.
There's always something goingon.
There's people leaving theirtrash in the apartment hallway,
like all kinds of annoyingthings happen.
The noise Didn't you have somecrazy noise?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
thing I want to preface this.
I want to start off saying like, I love my apartment, I love my
living space, I love thebuilding, I like where it is.
You know I have a couple ofgarages to keep all my cars, so
like the situation.
Situation itself for me isgreat, I love it, but it's just
all the outside influence.
Like you know, I lived in thecity growing up in an apartment
building.
It's like, you know you have it.
You have a couple bad neighborscome in and out and that can
(07:51):
destroy, you know, the entireexperience of living where you
live so over the past uh, year,year and a half.
just recently, I guess all myneighbors, I guess during covid
they were all know makingchildren at the same time,
because now, all of a sudden,just in my immediate section of
my hallway there's like four orfive new children under the age
(08:13):
of one.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh no, All at the same time.
Oh no, yeah.
And you're just the scrooge.
Well, first who's like thesekids?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Well, back in the day , when you came here like a
couple years ago it was, it wasum, a lot of dogs barking.
It was people going to work foreight hours a day and then
leaving all their dogs at home.
So I was dealing with thesepoor, lonely dogs in these
apartments without dog walkerscoming crying and barking yeah
all day long, while I'm in myapartment, you know, trying to
work or sleep or whatever thecase may be now.
(08:40):
It's now.
I can't even complain becauseit's children, yeah, but you
know, I don't know how do youfeel about this?
I have they walk their kidsdown the hallway at eight in the
morning and they're screamingto the kid and the little kid is
like maybe two and he's runningdown the hallway, or three,
stomping his feet running downthe hallway and they're
screaming to each other atopposite ends of the hallway
(09:03):
like come on, come on, come on,billy Bob come on, I'm laying in
bed, I'm going again, and everymorning she takes the kid to
school, I guess.
So it was every morning at eight, eight, 30 in the morning.
I'm going to woke up now.
Every morning.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, I wouldn't be able to deal.
I don't like kids, I don't.
I don't like.
I mean I have little nephewsand a little niece, my sisters
all have all these kids and Ilike them.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You don't like other people's kids.
You don't like strangers' kids.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, yeah.
I don't like kids just beingannoying, I don't.
But I think worse is theparents.
I don't like parents that areannoying, that are making the
kids annoying, because I thinkkids are kind of the reflection
of the parent, right, and I'mfrom a generation in my
household where my parents werevery be seen and not heard, like
(09:51):
if we went out to dinner and Iwas being obnoxious, my dad
would my parents would just ripme out of my chair, take me
outside and say you're going toyou're, you're going home.
Like it was unacceptable.
So when I see other parents whoare just so like just the
opposite of that, that just lettheir kids kind of run around
and be loud and they're loud, uh, it drives me crazy.
So I would be losing my mind ifI were you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's, you know it's rough because it's like, um, you
gotta be careful.
Like if you address thesepeople, like I can go to the
office and I could tell them tosend them a letter, but then
people don't read them and theydon't care.
But like you, you know I'veaddressed people before and you
know sometimes they take it thewrong way oh, yeah, and they get
super physical and defensive.
But yeah, but last night I'mleaving and I see the husband of
(10:30):
the of the wife who's beentaking her kid to school every
morning and uh, I said to himhey, man, you know, um, don't
take this the wrong way, butbecause my other neighbors have
also told me they hear them andof course I'm the person that
always says something cause Idon't care, so I told him, I
said, listen, yeah, your wife's,I guess I'm taking the kid to
school every morning and they're, and it's not just the child,
your child screaming, your son,it's, it's, they're screaming to
(10:52):
each other, which is weird.
And you know they such a weirdanswer.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
It was almost, he told me, to f myself yeah,
without telling me what I can doabout it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And then I was just like normal.
J I'm like listen, bro, I don'tneed to co-parent your kid.
All right, I mean, if you wantme to come out in the hallway
and get involved, I mean I will.
I mean, but, like you know,there's got to be a way just to
like not wake everybody up everysingle day at 8, 30 in the
morning, because, like, I'm nottrying to wake up every morning
at 8 30 and then 20 minuteslater he comes home and guess
what, what?
(11:24):
it's not early but it's like.
You know, it's like eighto'clock at night.
But he's coming down the wholehallway and he's screaming like
I don't know, I forgot the kid'sname, but he's.
Let's say he's going come on,johnny, let's go knock on the
door.
Let's go knock on the door,johnny, let's go say hi to mommy
.
And he's like yelling.
And I'm sitting on my couchwith, actually, my headsets on
listening to music and throughmy headsets I hear him like
(11:45):
right outside my door.
He's.
Then I hear him, I hear likeand the little kid knock for
mommy knock okay, this woulddrive me out of my mind yeah,
and it's just like and I don'tknow if he's doing this, because
, because, you said somethinglike I said something?
or is he doing this because,like he just doesn't think it's
late and he can just do what hewants in the hall?
But I was brought up living inapartment buildings.
My mom would make me like walkmy bike in the hallway, not be
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loud in the hallway.
She, like you know, explain tome as a child other people live
behind these doors.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
You don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Maybe you know we had .
We had a neighbor who was apoliceman and he, I know we, my
mom's, like oh, josh dave worksnights, so just you know he's
sleeping during the day becausehe lived off the elevator Like I
remember these things.
So it's like but these, these,these new parents there's like
no barometer for anything.
Trust me.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay, so my apartment is underneath a family and it's
like little kid, a little kidand a couple and they every hour
of the day I hear it's.
It's incredible.
Oh, they're running, they'rerunning, running back and forth,
just scurrying across the floorand it's so loud that I decided
I have this method and I'm surethis is.
(12:51):
I don't know if this is just umfueling the fire and I wonder if
they do it more when I hearloud stomping, okay I stop, I
take my arm and I bang the walllike bang, bang, bang, bang,
bang at the same, like they'redoing it, and then I kind of
call in response.
So it's like I hear the soundand I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
bang back and it's like my wayof saying that if it's, if it's
loud for me, I can hear it.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I'm telling you because sometimes they might not
be aware, and I get thatbecause I have a neighbor on the
other side of me yeah who slamsall of her kitchen cabinets
like I don't know who goes intheir kitchen cabinets that
often?
Yeah, but she slams them fromlike eight in the morning to
like three in the morning.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
She's like must be going for snacks at 2 am and I
hear like the thing open.
I hear it smash closed, I hearthe drawers open, I hear the
drawers smash closed and she hasno idea though that it's so
loud.
That.
I hear it she probably.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
What do I do?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
I have like a very heightened sense of sound where
I'm like tiptoeing and I'malways thinking can someone hear
me?
And my, am I chewing loud, LikeI'm always thinking this if I'm
hyper, hyper focused, and so Ijust like I'm amazed by the
people who just don't, are notaffected by that, that just like
they don't have that sense ofawareness.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I get it.
It's exhausting and it's funny.
I don't want to be like whatthe kids call a Karen.
Listen if you're in yourapartment and you're doing
whatever.
Okay, you're in your apartment.
What am I going to do?
I can't get mad if you're inyour apartment, If you're in the
hallway, like in front of mydoor.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
F off.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, then it's like you know you can do what you
want in your um.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
A look like I'll one time I went outside and I the
windows were.
It's probably a little creepy,but the windows were open and I
went outside and I looked at thewindow and I just did like a
huh because it was just so loudoh, and I just went out and I
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just did a little, a little likehuh, like what's going on up
there?
and I also it's like, iseverything okay?
Because like, how are you thisloud all the time?
But yeah, it's obnoxious, I, Ican't stand it.
It's a new generation of peoplewho are loud.
And yeah, you're, maybe you'rekaren, maybe I'm a karen.
Uh, you could be a jaren, jaren.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
It just depends on the noise because my listen, I'm
sandwiched between a whole lotgoing on my my other neighbor,
who we share my bedroom wall, somy head is leaning on the wall
that he's working in his officenext door to my bedroom.
So he's he's a streamer and hehas like a million plus now subs
on youtube wow, but he'sworking.
He's like reacting to, to likewhatever he's watching with like
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whoever's watching him.
So he's in there, he's watching, he's screaming, he's laughing,
he's cursing, he's yelling.
But it's like it bothered meuntil I knew what he was doing,
like the guy's working, yeah, soit's like okay, now I know it's
yeah he's being pretty, he'snot just being a dick, he's just
sitting there and he's workingand he's entertaining and he's.
So I get it.
So I can't get mad at that yeahbecause he's like doing
something productive.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
He's not just sitting there screaming at the wall,
just being annoying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And he has a schedule .
Yeah, he's told me and then youknow yeah.
So I know it's at 11 am, so aslong as I'm not sleeping at 11
am, yeah, totally.
But I hear him through my wholeapartment though.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh, that is so frustrating, that would drive me
crazy.
I wear earplping and stuff, butit's still frustrating.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I can't wear earplugs .
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm used to it.
I needed to because I just amso sensitive that I'm just
constantly wearing them.
But yeah, sounds are annoying.
People who are loud areannoying.
Please don't be loud.
Please don't be loud, neighbor.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's just annoying.
It's weird how my brain, whileI sleep, it knows the difference
between annoying sounds andlike regular sounds.
I live by a train.
A block Train doesn't wake meup ever.
Train passes all night andnever wakes me up.
I live behind a bus depot.
The buses don't really wake meup.
It's the people my brain knowswhile I'm sleeping.
The annoying people.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
That wakes me up.
I do get sensitive to sirensbecause I hear sirens a lot and
I'm just like whatever it's NewYork, but that's the life I
chose when I'm here.
I'm like whatever that's like.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You don't hear that in Texas, but sure that was like
when I grew up in Queens.
I live right by the 112 andthose.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That was an active precinct yeah, yeah, you always
they would always come up anddown.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
New Yorkers are just.
We just get put through themill with sounds which is like
so you?
Oh, my god.
The best was when they wereredoing the street at like two
in the morning, jackhammeringall night long, loud jack
hammering, and I'm just likewhat is anyone supposed to do?
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
what do you do anything?
What do you hear in Texas whenyou're sleeping?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
what do I hear?
I hear the sound of sweetnothing, absolutely nothing but
um.
But that's also like I got intothis weird habit whenever I'm
back in Texas, because I havenothing to do, I am nocturnal so
because I have nothing to wakeup for.
So I'll just like it's not.
Like.
Like when I'm back in Texasbecause I have nothing to do, I
am nocturnal so because I havenothing to wake up for.
So I'll just like it's not.
Like.
Like when I'm here, I like Igotta go to bed, or else I like
I need to go to bed, wake up.
(17:31):
You know, I have a routinethere.
I just am up and then I fallasleep and I'll.
If I wake up randomly in thenight, like at three in the
morning, um, I have a treadmilland I'll just jump on the
treadmill at three in themorning and just do exercise
because I can't sleep and I'mlike maybe this will make me
tired, and then it doesn't, andthen I stay awake and so then
I'm sleeping during the day andit's a bad schedule.
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It's definitely like, nothealthy, but yeah, so it's like
a different kind of form ofinsomnia where it's not from
sounds, it's just from havingnothing to do.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Well, my rules for for getting an apartment now
anywhere would be top floor ifavailable.
Um, definitely you want tospend some time in that
apartment, if you can get intothe one that you know you're
looking to rent, yeah find outwho the neighbors are, if you
can yeah, listen for anything,yeah knock on the walls because,
like the building I'm in now,there's no insulation between
apartments.
There's nothing, wow I said,there was a flood in one of the
other units and like they had tocut the wall to like you know,
air it out there's nothing.
Insulation between apartments?
There's nothing.
I saw there was a flood in oneof the other units and like they
had to cut the wall to, likeyou know, air it out.
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There's nothing in the wall.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Wow, empty space and they use those tin.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
you know metal studs.
There's no wood, it's just twopieces of a sheet rock and a
piece of tin.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Wow, blocking me.
When was the building built?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
no-transcript.
Big pile of wood waiting toburn down.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, so one of the so like every time I've come
back and forth to New York, Iwould have sublets in different
neighborhoods, especially in thebeginning of the year.
Now I'm in, like you know, Ihave a more consistent place,
but I was in Soho and I was onthe busiest street in Soho, like
Prince and what was it?
Like Prince and Mulberry.
So I was in this really busyblock like tons of tourists.
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There would be concerts, likeon the weekend outside my window
, like on the fire escape.
I could like just it was aconcert.
That's cool.
It's cool if you don't livethere, because it's just like-
Well, did you hear stuff inside?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I could hear everything.
Well, listen right now we areon the one of the busiest
corners in Rockville Center.
We have Sunrise Highway, wehave a train.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
And we're on a basic corner where everyone's honking
and yelling right outside with.
Dirty Taco.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, you don't really hear much in here because
the building was built in 1906.
Yeah, it's brick, yeah thesewindows are double pane.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
And you know there's about 30 kids downstairs right
now.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Right and we get here and it's not really loud in
here.
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
The way they build these newer buildings is just
you know you know.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The other thing I noticed, especially in my Soho
apartment, was how I'm.
I didn't know how sensitive Iwas to smoke and I like.
So you know, obviously I'm notsmoking in my apartment.
I don't smoke anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
But it was.
There was so much smoke comingin from off the street of people
just outside like restaurantworkers smoking cigarettes and
the weed smoke from neighborsand stuff, and that drove me
crazy, cause it's like you'regoing to bed and then you just
smell smoke in your like youknow, in the pillow, like so
gross.
(20:33):
I hate the smell of smoke somuch now and I just yeah that,
that like that's another newyork thing that I'm just like
disgusted by I can agree withyou on that, because also me,
being an ex smoker, don't likeit.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But when you travel abroad, everyone smokes and
you're sitting at a restauranteating and someone's right next
to you smoking as you're eatingand like they think, it's just.
No, that's just what everyonedoes that's what I want to die.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
But I also noticed, like the weed smoke thing not
cigarette smoke, but weed smokeis so much more common in the
streets because it's like legalnow and so everyone's just
smoking weed on the street.
And I hate that smell, like Ijust I don't like it.
I like I'm just not into it.
So I'm just it just makes melike ugh, gross.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It is pretty gross.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
But anyway, so loud neighbors, that's annoying.
Um and uh.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's like there's pros andcons to new york but like,
luckily I feel like the prosoutweigh the cons and it's just
like it's.
It's the place to be, likesomeone said to me at work.
They were like new york city,like yeah, there's like the
streets smell like garbage, thisand that it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Everything is here everything is here ever need and
then it's also a hub to getanywhere exactly so it really is
just you know yeah, it really.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It made me appreciate new york so much when I, when
I'm away, because I'm just like,oh, like you, just I take it
for, I took it for granted, how,how amazing it is.
But then the other thing isit's just like my career and my
line of work doesn't existanywhere else, like, especially,
like I was talking, thinkingabout how, like the layers of
communities that I've built,from little fashion model to, uh
(22:07):
, working on the other side ofthe camera and then like my
running community and myformerly my yoga community, and
like all these different friendsthat I've made all along the
way, uh, my sob, my sobrietycommunity, like everybody, I
just don't have that layer, likeall these different, like
levels of friendships that justlike run deep of people who have
known me for over a decade.
I don't have that anywhere elseand I think, like that's part
(22:29):
of it too, is like, if you'refrom somewhere, you just you
naturally just have a lot morefriends, um, in that place.
So that's something that I'vehad to come to terms with,
because I meet people in Texasand they're really nice, but
they don't understand me becausethey just don't know me, like
I'm new, you know.
But so, yeah, that's somethingthat I definitely miss when I'm
(22:53):
there, but it is what it is.
You know, it's just how life isright now, but it is what it is
.
You know, it's just how life isright now.
But that said, um, kids,speaking of annoying kids,
something you asked me in thebeginning when I we, when I came
into the studio today, was doyou want kids?
Are you thinking about kids?
And it's a, it's a greatquestion, because I am 35, I'm
(23:14):
35 and a half you're like a babythe clock is ticking for these
uh eggs and I thought about.
I was like, do I need to, likefreeze my eggs?
I asked my gynecologist um, soI had surgery this summer.
I don't know if you knew that,but I had to.
I got my first surgery where Ihad to go under and, um, because
I basically I went to the, Igot health insurance in the
beginning of the summercongratulations thank you.
(23:35):
It was a big step and I went toa gynecologist because I needed
to just go get a checkup andwithin five seconds of sitting
on the um chair with the thingup the thing you know how
gynecologists work um, she goesoh my gosh, uh, yeah, yeah, you
have to, you have to get theseum things removed.
And so I had to go.
(23:57):
I had to get surgery like a fewweeks later and I was like, oh
my god, I have to go on.
I've never done.
Have you ever gone under?
yeah, once or twice okay, so youknow what it's about.
Yeah it's not great I mean, Iwas raised a christian scientist
where we don't have doctors andmedicine.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
So like that alone, like going to a doctor's office,
scares the hell out of me, mymom didn't like doctor, like
I've broken bones and they'veset naturally, because my mom
was like yeah, you're fine,exactly that's.
That is the.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Christian science way too.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
So you guys are like I'll show you my thumb again
after it's like crooked yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
So I had to get surgery and I was super spooked
out and I was like, oh my God,this is going to be crazy.
But luckily everything wentfine, whatever.
But I did ask my gynecologist.
I was like, do I need to thinkabout this?
Because she had recommendedfreezing my eggs for just in
case.
Yeah, of course.
And it's definitely like aconversation because I'm like
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I'm sure so many women thesedays are like you get to this
age and you're just like, well,what am I supposed to do?
Do I just go for it?
And I'm like, is this what I'msupposed to do?
And I've asked people, likeI've talked to people a lot
about like their decision tohave kids or not have kids.
I read this amazing book calledWomen Without Children by Ruby
Warrington and it just talkingabout the women who choose to
(25:10):
not have kids.
That choice isn't made for thembecause of fertility issues,
it's because they just don'twant to.
And that, like that is kind ofa movement of people who are
like we're finally in an era ofuh, the you know in for women,
where you don't have to, likeit's not your, it doesn't have
to be your only purpose, whereas, like for hundreds and hundreds
(25:31):
and thousands of years, that'swhat women did.
So it is an interestingconversation, um, but like I
always go back to thinking likeI got this far and it took so
much to get here, where I'm likekind of doing great, like where
everything just seems to bereally good, like life is
falling into place, and then I'mlike do I throw in a wild card?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
no, kids are crap shoots, you just don't know.
You don't know if you're gonnaget a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
You don't know if you're gonna.
You don't just don't know.
You don't know if you're goingto get a good one.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
You don't know if you're going to.
You don't know if it's anything.
You don't know if it's going tocome out good.
Even you don't know you don'tknow, you know anything, so
nothing.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
And it's like it just blows my mind that people just
do it all the I'm way toocalculated where I just would
want to control everything, andthe thought of like my body
changing like that and havinglike having to change and take
care.
I mean I've heard that it canbe wonderful.
I've heard that it can behorrible.
(26:26):
I mean my mom had five babiesin three and a half years.
So she, she's like it was funand, like you know, I had a
great time having kids.
It was not, it wasn't bad atall.
And I'm like, okay, well, Idon't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
I don't know either, and I feel like I've gotten a
little older now.
I don't know.
I don't even know.
Like I said, I'm not even sureI don't know.
Listen, I guess you don't knowtill you know.
But I mean, I'm not nothing'soff the off the board, but yeah,
I mean you could.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I feel like it could also be just such a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, I mean you wake up and be like oh my God, I
can't do this sooner.
Or I could be like oh my God, Ijust ruined my entire life.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, yeah, and you can't really say so.
If you have a kid that you'rekind of like, oh, you can't
really say it.
I mean, I think I would be likewhat weird conversation to have,
(27:24):
and I've definitely beenthinking like, okay, I got to
figure this out, but luckily so.
I work with a few amazing womenwithout children and like this
one photographer I'm thinking ofand another stylist, and they
represent a certain kind ofperson that I'm like, okay, they
, they're so cool to me, and oneof them is very much like I
never wanted kids my entire lifeand like they always knew that
and I like I like having theexamples in my life of like,
okay, this is a path that peopledo and they're happy with it.
(27:46):
So yeah, but yeah, so that'ssomething that I've been kind of
thinking about, especiallyafter I had my surgery, and I
was like what is the meaning oflife?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
But um, so you've been thinking about it, yeah,
and what'd you come up with?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
great question.
I also kind of thought like Imight I could be one of those
people I've said this at workbefore where I'm like I could be
one of those people who, like,if it was an accident, like if,
if it's supposed to happen andit was an accident, maybe I
would just roll with that.
Is that that bad?
No, it's not bad.
Because I think my sisters wereaccidents.
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So my mom got pregnant with me.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I know a couple women who've gotten pregnant like
that by mistake.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Like in their around your age, yeah.
And then she was like, or a fewof them were like.
You know, I've always wanted akid.
It wasn't even with the rightguy.
She was like, or a few of themwere like.
You know, I've always wanted akid.
It wasn't even with the rightguy.
She was like I just I've alwayswanted a kid, yeah, why would I
do something I had?
Now I'm pregnant.
So I'm just going to have thiskid regardless, Cause I just now
it's my, I guess I'm just goingto do that, yeah, Instead of
(28:52):
like maybe getting an abortionRight ever come yeah, you try
and then you can't.
So I don't know.
It's just a yeah, so that's.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
The thing is like yeah, so because, like with my
sisters, my mom didn't, shewasn't planning to have five
kids, she was planning to havelike two, and then, damn, she
had me.
And then, 11 months later,twins, and then, a couple years
later, twins and, like thesecond batch of twins, my dad,
that's so crazy my dad, I askedmy mom.
I was like what happened?
(29:20):
like you might have twins well,maybe, but like that's also more
terrifying.
But my mom said that it wassuch a shock when she got the
ultrasound, when she found outshe was pregnant with the second
, um, second pair of twins and Iwas just like how, how, anyway?
So I just it, it's like itcould happen as an accident and
I would just roll with it maybe.
(29:40):
But you know, I just also likethink about myself and my
lifestyle.
I'm like I'm just such a Idon't know, I'm just so all over
the place, like look at megoing back and forth to Texas
all the time, like I'm like I'mnever in one place for very long
.
So I guess a lot of my lifewould have to change.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean well, you could be.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I could if I had like a responsibility of a life to
raise.
But and also, who knows, maybemy kid could be really cool and
I could teach them all kinds offun things.
But um, because that part seemskind of fun, like teaching
someone your life experiences,like the way my dad was with me
and I know you relate to thiswhere it's like if you've had a
parent that you've lost and youthink about the memories you
(30:17):
have with them when you go.
Where do those memories go?
Like it's passing it on alongthe generations?
So I think about all the thingsmy dad taught me and I'm like,
oh, I want to teach things thathe taught me to someone else,
like I want to keep it alive,you know.
So there's something in that tooyeah, just gotta hope the kid
likes things that you like yeahotherwise it's disastrous yeah,
(30:40):
and like it's hard in the momentto realize, like the things my
dad was teaching me, it's a newworld.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now you might have a kid who's just, you know, not
like not perceptive not like meor you, they're just very
different yeah, yeah and youcan't relate.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And then, yeah, like what if they just like hate
everything that I've ever doneand they're like mom, you don't
know anything, so you never knowwhat you're going to get?
But, yeah, kids, it's somethingto think about for sure.
But, um, that said, uh, I wouldlike to get into some questions
that I guess are relevant tolike my life changing a lot,
(31:18):
cause there's been a lot ofchanges in my life.
Like, I feel like last time Iwas here, I was still very much
focused on running and whateverelse I don't know, but like
that's changed, like I'm, I'm Ikind of don't identify as the
kind of runner that I was.
Like, I'm, kind of I was sointo it.
I was like life or death, likerunning is everything.
But then that kind of shifted,which I think just happens with
(31:44):
life, like things, you, youchange your priorities and you
start focusing on other things.
I got really into working and Ijust, like you know, I just
kind of put all my energy intothat.
But, um, yeah, so, so there wasa.
There's a list of questionsthat I feel like you should have
the honor of asking let me seethe honor from instagram.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Well, this is yeah, it's all.
It's a lot of running stuff.
Let's go um.
I'm reading them for the firsttime.
All right, let's start.
What are your running shoerecommendations?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
oh man, I don't like.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
This is also kind of a funny question I feel like I
should have should have askedthis one last yeah, because
Cause like well, so I did justdo.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I've done some ads in the past year.
There's a few modeling jobs,but I did a new balance campaign
where I was running in some newbalance shoe.
It's like a racing shoe Likethanks, new balance.
Like thanks for having me inyour ad.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
I bought my first pair of new balances.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh I bought my first pair of New Balances.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Oh, and you're wearing New Balances.
Yeah, I bought my first pairthis month.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, so here you go.
You can relate to this.
You're not necessarily a runner, but yeah so like I.
But the funny thing is iseveryone was asking me are these
the shoes that you run in?
And I was like, well, I do runin New Balances, not these kind
of racing shoes that I did thead for, but I do run in this.
I have one pair of New Balances, the Fuel Cell V3s, that I just
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use for everything for stairclimbing, for incline walking,
for everything.
I just like them and I do runin them.
But I'm not like finicky aboutshoes.
Like I know you're a shoe guy,like you love, like your shoe
collection stuff.
I don't really care about shoes, I'm just like, whatever these
work and I stuck with them foryou it's like a tool yeah it's
like when you put tires on a car.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
It's like you, you're putting specific tires on the
car because you're doingsomething specific yeah, yeah,
you're looking for a shoe thatperforms.
You're not just gonna go walkaround and yeah look at my shoes
yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
It's like I don't even care what they look like, I
don't care what color they are,I just get them because I know
that they work.
But so, yeah, I'm not like tooobsessed with like the gear,
like I'm not trying out the newshoes, like I've tried out new
shoes in shoots, but I'm justlike you know, like I wore some
asics that were brand new, thatwere some cool fast shoot and
they're bouncy, but I'm like I'mnot really like too obsessed
with shoes.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Have you ever tried those Nikes that I heard got
banned from the marathon?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, carbon, I raced in them,
so it's because they were tootall.
But they're only banned on thetrack, they're not banned in the
actual marathon.
But yeah, yeah, and I've tried.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Do they help?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, definitely They've helped.
They've helped a lot andthey've Records are dropping so
much Like people are breakingrecords at every race because
the shoe technology has gottenso good that it just is making
people significantly faster.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I think I read something somewhere that
somebody ran like a marathon inthe States and like some really
weird pair of sneakers, likesomething that would destroy
your feet, like almost likeCrocs.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh yeah, people do marathons in Crocs.
The record for the Crocmarathon was just set at the new
york marathon did you just saythe croc marathon?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
what does that even mean?
Well, they were wearing crocsthe entire marathon so you mean
they they time croc racersdifferently, or there's a
separate like?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
it just was like an official world record of like
crocs wearing crocs in amarathon, which was silly what a
croc.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
seriously, what a load of crock.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So, um, yeah, so shoe stuff, I don't, I don't know,
I'm not very finicky, I justwear those new balances and I'm
good.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
What do you eat?
Speaker 2 (35:01):
What do I eat?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
after a long run or a short run or a day off, like
what are you eating?
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Oh, man, what's?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
on the menu.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Cheeseburgers, I don't know.
I've just been eating kind ofrandom, Like.
Let me just paint this pictureof what I had for dinner last
night.
Sure, and I've been, I've beentraining even though I'm not
racing right now, I have beenkeeping a really good base and
I've been going hard, but incross training, like I do like a
lot of stair climbing and a lotof incline running, and so I go
(35:30):
really hard and I've beeneating weird things like usual
for me, I guess, Cause I'vealways eaten kind of strange.
But um, like last night fordinner I had a dozen oysters,
cause I went out to dinner withmy friends and I had a dozen
oysters, and then I came homeand I was like I'm still kind of
hungry, so I ate a lot ofraisins, and then I had Arctic
(35:51):
zero ice cream, which is likethat vegan ice cream that I'm
obsessed with, and somechocolate, and that was my
dinner and it was like it waslike oysters, raisins, Arctic
zero and chocolate and it wasperfect.
It was amazing.
I was like this is deliciousand um, but typically I've just
been eating lots of like mytypical steamed vegetables, fish
, tofu, avocado, uh, nuts, butum, tofu, avocado, uh, nuts, but
(36:16):
um, but you know me and thesteamed vegetables which I'm
actually like, so excited we'regoing to go get dinner after
this, because I'm very excitedwhat?
is the Thai place called.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's called Tom Thai.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Tom Thai.
Oh it's so good they have my,my steamed vegetables.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And when he lives in my building and he's my neighbor
, he does not make any noise.
He's the best, he good, he's aquiet one.
Yeah, he's on my side.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Nice yeah.
So you know, just like thatstuff, I feel like I've been
diversifying a little bit, whereI like I don't know just eating
like a little bit more avocado,if I'm feeling like, oh yeah,
hummus, Like I'm very much intohummus, but do you like hummus?
You're like, you're a yeah,what is it called Omnivore?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yes, I just eat whatever whatever's in front of
me.
If I'm hungry, it's okay.
What else we got here.
Nice list of questions.
How has your training changedover the years and how do you
feel about it?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh, that's a great question, thanks, so thanks.
I think this was from a personnamed Sasha.
So shout out, sasha.
Um, so shout out, sasha.
I think they live in Germany,um, and they uh sent me this
question.
So I have been, uh, I used toreally focus on running, only
training towards a specificdistance, so like a 10 K or a
(37:23):
half or a marathon, and thatlooked like lots of running and
a little bit of cross training.
Now I do a lot of crosstraining and a little bit of
running, so I run a very highquality mileage, but a lot less
mileage, and I'll do my.
Cross training is very serious,though.
So, like, my favorite favoritething in the entire world right
now is stair climbing, and I'vealways loved stair climbing, but
(37:45):
now I do that most days of theweek where I'm just climbing at
fastest hell, pace balls to thewall, stair climbs where I'm
trying to, at fastest hell, paceballs to the wall, stair climbs
where I'm trying to hit acertain number of floors per
hour.
That I equate to the samefeeling that I would have when I
would run really fast, so likewhen I would do 10 miles in an
(38:06):
hour on the weekends when I wastraining just for running.
This feels like that, if notharder, and so that's why I love
it, cause I just love like justtraining really hard and just
you know, like puttingeverything into a stair climb.
And I treat it almost like Idid with those runs where I
would like set the pace and likedo a progression where it's
like starts a little bit slowerand it gets really fast at the
(38:27):
end, so that it averages thislike certain a hundred steps per
minute and um, yeah, so I meanthat's what I did this morning
and it felt amazing and I loveit.
And um, so stair climbing ishow my training is right now,
like I should be running a stairrace or something, cause like
there is one like in March, butbut yeah, have you ever done the
one to the top of the EmpireState Building?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I?
Speaker 2 (38:46):
haven't, but I would love to.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
My friend Amy for you .
She does it every year.
Oh cool, the fireman climb,yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard
about that.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, my friend really wants me to do one of
those because he's also obsessedwith stair climbing.
He's the only other person Iknow in the world that does
stair climbing as much as I do,so I think it's a great exercise
.
I mean, it's great activity andI think it's like so
challenging, and so I lovethings that like and make me
feel like I'm accomplishingsomething amazing to make the
rest of the day a little biteasier, where I'm like, do
(39:13):
something really hard, get itover with, it's going to suck
for an hour, and then the restof the day I feel awesome.
So that's how my training hasbeen looking.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I walked up some stairs today.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
You did, you walked up some.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, when we got here, yeah, two flights of
stairs, and I did it.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
That's like four floors.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Isn't that great.
That's four more than I wouldhave done if I didn't come here.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
What else we got.
We got all right, you ready.
How do you set goals foryourself these days?
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Oh man.
So it used to be that my goalswere like races, Like okay, I'm
training for a race, but now mygoals have been a lot more about
career and I have some biggoals.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Like, I really want to publish a book.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Are you waking up and running anymore?
I?
Do wake up and run yeah, everyday, pretty much yeah, or run or
stair climb yeah, I wake up andexercise every day.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Sorry if I missed that.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, every day Wake up train.
Yeah, wake up train every day.
That's always happening, okay.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
No matter what, I'm sorry.
All right, you're publishing abook.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Publish a book.
That's a big goal of mine thatI would love to do.
That's always been on my list,way before I was ever a runner.
I'm like I want to write a book.
I've been writing a book andnow I'm just trying to package
it in a way that's a cohesivestory to tell, because I think I
have a really great story LikeI think that there's something
about my life where I'm likethis is unusual and I want to
(40:30):
share what I've learned with theworld of like hey, you can
rewrite the narrative and startover and do something completely
different from what you weredoing, and like learn all these
lessons and stuff.
So I want to publish a book andI really just want to take the
podcast to the next level andlike have amazing guests.
And I feel like earlier todaywe are chipping away at that
(40:50):
goal because we had a wonderfulepisode with this runner that I
interviewed, and so, yeah, Ijust want to like have that be a
big focus and that's my goal,especially for this next year
2025 is coming up.
And then also just likefocusing on feeling healthy and
like taking care of myself,because after the surgery, I
(41:13):
also found out that I haveanemia and like these like you
know, things that are underlyingissues, that I'm like I want to
be on top of my health and feelamazing and, you know, like
take care of myself which isn'talways hand in hand with
training really hard, becauseit's like there's also like the
recovery aspect of like okay,well, what, what can I do to
like be eating more well-rounded, to like actually get all the
nutrients and stuff?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
so, yeah, so those are my goals oh man, um what
actually inspires you, uh,motivates what spires and it
motivates.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Uh, I don't think it's what people would think,
because I feel like people likecream yeah, yeah, honestly, I'm
so inspired by a freezer full ofArctic zero ice cream.
They don't sponsor me.
I wish they did.
Um, they know about me.
They're like you're a crazy,you're the.
You have tagged us the mostthan anyone ever.
But, um, I am inspired by that.
(42:05):
Yes, I work hard for it Cause Ijust want to eat it all the
time.
But, um, I think that I'm themost inspired by podcasters that
are doing a lot of content,like I was just thinking about
that.
I was talking about this lastnight with my friend at dinner,
where podcasters that put out acouple episodes a week that are
like three hours long.
I think that's amazing and ittakes so much work and it's like
(42:29):
that's.
That's kind of like those arethe people that I look up to.
Now.
It used to be.
I was looking up to fastrunners and like people who are
doing like really amazingathletic achievements, but now I
think I look up to podcastersand writers more than anything.
So I watch a few podcastsconstantly, like there's this
one, tricia Paitis.
Uh, she has every week she doesa hot topics episode that's
(42:51):
about two and a half to threehours long, and then a interview
episode with a guest.
So it's two episodes a week andI watch these like my life
depends on it, like I hang onevery word because I just am so
enamored by, like the amount ofwork that goes into it.
And I do find her just likejust fun to listen to, like a
friend, and I'm like, oh,podcasts can just be like you're
(43:12):
listening to someone that youlike to hang to listen to like a
friend, and I'm like, oh,podcasts can just be like you're
listening to someone that youlike to hang out with and like I
feel like I it's a parasocialrelationship for sure, for sure.
But with Trisha I just I'm like, oh, I have a friend to listen
to, uh, you know, for a couple,for several hours a week, and it
like gets me through my day andit gets me through my commutes
and it's just yeah.
So I look up to podcasters andspecifically to trisha paytas
(43:36):
any other podcastrecommendations?
oh man, I listen to everything.
I listen to probably somecontroversial ones, but um I
don't listen to any.
You don't listen to any oh mygod here I am sitting behind the
desk oh my god, I'm obsessed,you know, tiger belly with Bobby
Lee the comedian.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
I get, like my, my, my little bits of content from
like social media, like I'venever actually sat through a
whole thing, but like yeah,Bobby Lee's hysterical.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Oh, my God, yeah.
And so I like I just am.
I'm constantly cycling throughlike and even podcasts that I
like rage, listen to.
So it's like a podcast thatmaybe you don't agree with the
host or the guest and you'relike these people, this is like
wrong or like not, maybe likepolitically correct or like
whatever, but I'll still listento it Cause I like I want to
(44:22):
know what everyone's talkingabout.
Like, what is everyone talkingabout?
And especially if something isreally long, I'm like I want to
hear what's so controversial,and not the clips.
I want to listen to the entirething.
So I'll do that and then I um,you know, but then it's kind of
like inside voices when I talkabout it, cause it's like, yeah,
maybe I listened tocontroversial podcasts, but,
like, if I'm on the train, Ilike have to hide what I'm
(44:44):
watching, cause I'm like I don'twant anyone to look over my
shoulder and be like this chickis watching you know who, and
that's a bro, and like you'renot allowed to listen to that
yeah, I don't watch anythinglike regularly, like I have a
couple like I don't know,there's a couple like ones I
find funny, you know, like, uh,like flagrant oh yeah, I was
watching that on the way here.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, I mean a couple of those like, but I don't like
have one that like I like.
Oh, the new one's out yeah, oh,that's I.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
I'm the opposite, where it's like I'm counting
down, waiting for an upload, andI just like.
I'm like, oh yes, my life iscomplete, I have three hours of
something to listen to.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I just feel like I'm busy yeah, I have a lot going on
.
So if I'm like, if I have timelike that, like an hour, yeah, I
usually just rather sit infront of my computer.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
I'm commuting constantly so I'm just like
because I had that remember, Itold you I had a shoot where,
like two hours to and from,right, right.
It's four hours on the trainand on my commute is 100 feet
yeah, so you don't have the liketime, and I also, when I'm like
, when I'm exercising, I listento podcasts a lot to keep me
company, but that's so.
Yeah, just exercise and you'llhave podcast time interesting
(45:47):
stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
I mean I don't know what else we can talk about.
I mean I think we should skipthe dating stuff.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Oh, boy yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Cause that could be another hour.
That's a that's between us atdinner tonight.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, I feel like that's a, that's like it's so
funny.
One time we did a datingpodcast episode.
This is a while ago.
I feel like I should tell thestory.
So like, uh, I had my fairshare of silly like encounters
with men in New York and we dida dating podcast episode and it
made people angry.
It made people who are like alittle too entangled with.
(46:23):
This was like a while ago.
So I feel like it's a safespace now.
There's enough distance.
But like I mean, I feel likethese same people on both of our
sides are still probablycreepily tuning in and like
trying to get information andstuff.
But I just remember like howmad I made somebody because I
was talking objectively aboutdating and like red flags and
(46:43):
things that people do, and I waslike thinking of this person
and being like it's a red flagif they're DMing other girls,
like wow, blah, blah, blah, andlike there's like secrets with
other.
Like I was talking about thisperson and then they definitely
knew that.
And they were super mad that Iwas talking about it on my
podcast, but that's what you getIf you are a red flag.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, you are the chairman.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Of the red flag committee.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
I do kind of like have a lot of, I've had a lot of
red flags, but I kind of blamethat on New York.
No offense to you, I knowyou're from the queen, from
Queens, and you like you're notthat kind of guy you could talk
in generalities but you know thedeal there there's, there's
exceptions to the rules andthere's you know there's,
there's nice people sprinkled inwith you.
There are so many awful, awfuldating experiences in my lovely
(47:35):
past, but I don't know, it'sjust that's just something that
comes with New York.
There's this, oh, I can't eventalk about it, okay.
Well, I'm going to talk aboutit because I feel like I have to
tell you I'm going to usegeneralities, okay, you know how
, like with my 12 step programthat can't be named because it's
a secret, my 12 step programthat can't be named because it's
a secret, which everyone whoknows knows.
There's something like thatwith dating and I'm going to be
(48:01):
very like, discreet.
It's kind of like a fight clubthing, but it taught, it's kind
of a way for people to vet outguys and like and I want to keep
it very general, cause I don'twant anyone to think I'm
whatever, but in a weird way, Ithink it's the best thing that
could ever happen to New York,cause it's a way for women to
kind of like give you a heads upabout people, and so, that said
(48:23):
, I feel like that's like a.
That's something that'shappened recently because of how
bad and toxic guys are.
Finally, women have been likewait a minute.
We need some kind of analliance where we can share and
like, talk about our experiencesso that you can avoid those
kinds of like missteppings andhaving some kind of a weird
thing happen.
But it also kind of holds guysaccountable where it's like
(48:45):
don't be weird with girlsbecause they're going to talk
about it.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Girls are weird with guys too, though.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
It's true.
I think that there is a versionof what I'm talking about for
the other way, where it's likeguys.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
How do I, how do I become vetted?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
I mean I wish I knew for guys, so I don't, but yeah.
So I think that like, yeah, thedating scene in New York is
garbage.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, and here we are , here we are Um, so there's no
other questions, and here we are, here we are, so there's no
other questions.
I think we pretty muchexhausted them yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, I think we're pretty good.
I mean, there's one last one.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Oh, one last one.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
I saved it for the end.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (49:25):
How do you feel about getting older?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Oh, I don't care.
I don't care at all Like Iabout, like you were talking
about how like I mean, peoplewill see themselves on the
camera or something and they seethey look a certain way and
I've seen how I've changed.
Like I look at myself in areflection.
I've had my picture taken for,however, 20 years, more than
that, like since I was 15 yearsold, I've had, well, yeah, so
exactly 20 years people takingphotos of me just judging my
(49:47):
looks, whatever.
And as I've been changing andgetting older, naturally I do
not care and I think maybe,maybe someday I'll be like, oh,
wrinkles and whatever, but likewe were talking about this at
work with like Botox and stuff,and I'm like I don't, I don't
have any desire to manipulatethis process of getting older.
I'm just kind of fine with itgoing the way that it goes and
(50:11):
hoping that like know, I eatwell and I exercise and that's
the best I could possibly do Ilook at it in a different way.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
I don't look at it like because I don't like you, I
don't really care yeah whatever, but it's like as as we get
older, you know, our time hereis becoming smaller.
Yeah, you know, and like myfather died kind of early.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Yes, you know my grandfather died kind of early.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah same.
You know, my grandfather diedkind of early.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
My grandmother lived to a hundred and something, so
you know, it's a mixed bag.
It's like when's my time?
Do I have only 20 something?
Speaker 2 (50:42):
years left.
Do I have 50 something yearsleft?
Would you want to know whenyou're going to?
Speaker 1 (50:50):
die What't know that I wouldn't like be so worried
about saving money.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I'd kind of like go out with a bang.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't you're preparing, am I
preparing to have to?
Live and pay rent or have aplace for yeah or not.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
So it's like you know .
So yeah, like I think, when itcomes to getting older, I just
think I do as much as I can doand there's not like, is there
anything you want to do?
I just think I do as much as Ican do.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
And there's not like Is there?
Speaker 2 (51:13):
anything you want to do before you can't do it.
Well, I think-.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Any trips you want to take, yeah, any goals you want
to-.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, I mean there's stuff on my list, but I'm also
just thinking as far as, like,the feeling of being older, like
it doesn't terrify me, and Ialso think about all my friends,
which includes you, of peoplewho are pushing like 50 or like
I have friends who are a lot ofmy really, really good friends,
(51:40):
are in that age bracket andyou're not there yet, but like I
and I look at them and I'm like, oh, they're like they're,
they're having the times oftheir lives.
So like I'm not afraid of likedifferent numbers.
I mean, maybe I'll feeldifferently.
But even my mom, like after mydad passed away, my mom had a
second chapter.
She's 65 and she's still liketraveling.
She does like like living in atiny van, stuff, like things
(52:00):
that you think like a 20 yearold would do.
My mom does.
So that kind of stuff makes methink like there's another
chapter and it's kind of up tolike your own, like mentality
and stuff.
So I'm not too afraid ofgetting older.
Speaker 1 (52:13):
All right.
Well, I think that's all we got, all righty Well, I'm getting
hungry.
Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, me too I'm starving, so anyway, well, thank
you so much for being theco-host for the show today as
the trusty, rusty, not rustyproducer extraordinaire at
Florida Media, Florida Media,Florida Media.
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
Glad I could.
Sponsored by Florida Media.
Glad I could bring thatenthusiasm.
Producer extraordinaire atflorid media, florid media.
Florid media.
Thanks, glad I could.
Sponsored by florid media.
Glad I could bring thatenthusiasm yeah, for sure about
disliking children.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
And until next time, just be fast, just win and keep
your kids out of the hallway.
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