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It's the final episode of the podcast for this season. The boys discuss the semi-finals and look forward to the Grand Finals on the weekend. WHO WILL WIN.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Better than the Lego better than the Lego.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Coops. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
We've made its final podcast. I think final one.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Off the top. I want to talk about the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Firstly, let's talk about last weekend before we get into.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Off the top, one of the best thought out sequence
plays that I've seen leading up to Penrith's first try
starts off to Nathan Cleary London.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
A little bit of pressure Penrith.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And forty twenty third tackle and you see when he
works down, he walks down and he turns around, he
can he'll start communicating what he wants from this next set,
right is what we're going to do now this I
just love the way they play this out. So they
take it up firstly, which will be Leota to.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Go on full control of the team right there.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And you're watching here.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They hit the far post area, a little play for
the player to start with, typically inside ball for jer Haaris.
Then they lay the far past. Now watch Nathan here.
This is crucial. He gets there and straight away he
presents himself early, so carnally go here we go here,
let's get up on him, up on him. No, we're
going to take one more and it just it's wrong
foot him. They're going to get back on the line
(01:12):
and the next play he's caught him on their heels.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
He did the similar thing in the Grand Final, kicked
that forty twenty that ignited the comeback. He's picking on
lazy wingers to start with, So when Nathan clearly wants
to kick of forty twenty, he's up in the front
line as opposed to behind Oao and then directing that set.
I love the fact that Leo would carry with It's
like telling a lie with a sequence, absolutely and then
(01:36):
made them come up then go back. So there was
multiple times whether the edge defense of the Sharks thought
that Nathan was going to shift the time that they
didn't have the energy of the line speed to get up.
And it's picking on Nico Hines like he was under pressure.
Putting runners inside and outside just made him make a decision, and.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
He exactly targeting there and actually also targeting Tellerchuies his
ability to have the gas and the tank to shut
outside in, to shut the space, and he was slow
to the part.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Play we'll come again this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Absolutely, we're going to talk about that in a second,
because yeah, I found it interesting after the game the
press conference with Ivan, I've got some thoughts about that. Firstly,
the other one is we talk about the inside balls
all the time, and a fellow said to me, why
doesn't penwith just take just take the ball up, get forward,
just w when Nathan handles the ball. When the ball
hits Nathan's hands, most times the defense sort of sit
(02:27):
on their heels and they freeze.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
In fact, the defense sort of flexes open.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
A little bit because they're so aware of his threat
not just to run, but to push the ball to
the edge. So a lot of times it's just always
an easy ten meters for the middles. It's just a
really simple basic thing. But again another thing that just
takes pressure off his forwards.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, we'll talk about it in terms of what the
storm have to do, but they have to counter that. Yeah,
they have to get the line speed and shut that down.
When you're in a rhythm like Nathan, what you need
to do is throw him completely off. He needs to
have one Some of those runners not get avare his
line play the balls, so he feels like he has
to go back to a normal one off carry. Get
(03:05):
Mitch Kenny more involved, but it's the power of the
Penith system at play.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
One more thing on Penrith.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
We're going to talk about this later, but watching the
Penwouth big guys, they've been playing a really hard style
of football for about five years, a lot of big games.
To me, they just starting to look a little tired, don't.
But there's certain things that I'm saying that they do.
But what's helping their cause is the amount of work
the outside backs to I mean, look at this is
a typical set. They kick down field, Dylan Edwards, well,
(03:34):
he does the initial run, gets forward, he plays the
football surprise surprise on play two, so he punches forward
that extra one or two movies through the leg drive
he got Taruva then coming from the other side of
the field to take the hit up. Now okay, first
time we've soon a forward isaaah, take the ball up
lightweight forward, then finish with Dylan Edwards again.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Then let's get it out of there.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's just alleviating so much pressure off Fish and theoda.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's conserving energy.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's been effective, and that's the Penith system again at
work and the outside backs.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Alamodi didn't have a carry.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
He got that kick chase in so when one works,
the other one rests, conserves energy and they compliment each
other all over the field.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's going to be a hell of a game.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And to be able to stop Penrith from winning Melbourne Storm,
we have to stop some of that.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
On Melbourne Storm, we'll talk about Nelson and the fact
that he's likely to miss this or he's going to
fight it. As we're recording this, he hasn't gone to judiciary.
But the Storm the mental toughness to be leading at
halftime twenty four to six, and then the Roosters come
out a ten minute period and go try and try
where it goes twenty four to twenty six. I Regon
(04:42):
twenty four to eighteen. Sorry, I reckon most sides there
would start to tighten up a little bit. They feel
like we're on the slide of the moment and slung
the other way. They didn't miss a beat. They met
it with physicality and aggression and just bludgeoned over the
top of the Rooster.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I thought that performance from Melbourne was an indication of
a team at the peak of there powers right now.
The week off after winning Week one, they were fresh.
They just played everything faster, like they play the ball speed,
their line speed, their skill and execution.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
The try that hows.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Scored when Pabinow's and quick tap like that was just
moving faster than the opposition. I like the fact that
Storm a consistent team like Penrith. They don't give away
cheap possession to the oppositions. But the good players are
playing well jeez Like it's almost the perfect ingredients of
(05:32):
a premiership winning team. Same as the Penrith path. You
do the basics better than anyone else. I'm talking defendwell,
completion rate, good kicking, good discipline. There are four things
you must do.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
In our game. They do it better than anyone else.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But then the rise to the top. Your best players
need to be the best player and both teams are
doing that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Likes a fortune as far as injuries and freshness concerned,
Like we have strength and conditioners and all this, but
at the end of the day, sometimes it just lacks.
Sometimes fatigue just gets indy at the back end of
the year. Where with Melbourne this time all their creatives
are fresh. So Munster's been preserved because of the fact
he's had the injuries. He through the injuries, his peaked
form Jerome's in the form of his life. Pappenhausen is
(06:14):
finally fingers crossed through this horror period and is hitting
top four and Harry Grant last year at this point
Harry was he was wobbling, He looked just about going.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He looks tremendous.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I think this is.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Where this game is one and lost in terms of
the storm Spine versus the best defense we've seen in
a long time. If Penrith defensively can stop the storm
Spine from running the ball yep, I think they win.
If storm Spying get up and going, I think they win.
That's where it sits for me, and I'm with you.
I think Papenhausen, the footwork and acceleration of Munster and
(06:48):
Hughes on either side. If you can get Papenhausen one
on one speed like you did on the weekend to
the Rooster's edge defenders, he is team for me. Could
be the guy that just turns out one opportunity into
a line breaker a try.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
When you watch Jerown, who will go gun barrel straight,
but then he'll hit pap and Hous on a sweep
and suddenly he's going like a rocket.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
He just pulls that defensi apart.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
If we look at the first two Melbourne tries a
perfect example. Luke here, like he's forcing experienced guys to
break the cardinal rules of defense, don't slide till the
ball goes pasture. But Luke is so urgent to try
to protect the three on two on the edge that
he slides. And it's similar to the next try again Luke.
(07:35):
You watch Luke squeeze in here. But what happens is
all of a sudden he's got to go on Paps
and he can't help it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Overchase.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And if I'm Melbourne Storm, I'm telling Ryan Papenhausen to
stretch Nathan Cleary. When Nathan clearly has to stretch that
army in a tackle and reach for someone like Papenhausen,
that's when the shoulder might be in a really uncomfortable
position because he can deal with things closed defensively, but
when he's been stretched like that Jarring on the weekend,
(08:04):
he had to have both armed stretched. So the speed
of Papenhausen could be a huge indicator in this game.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Cooper, just two things for it's over to you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Interesting start of the year interviewing Nathan Cleary, and he
spoke about the twenty twenty loss to the Melbourne Storm
and how that has made this playing squad been a
big part of this dynasty from Penrith. He said, we
went into that game and we look back now and
we realize we'll playing like boys. They're playing like men,
and they bullied us and we said never again.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well it's come full sir. Yeah, so this is they're
looking for payback.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, and it's going to be a huge game.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
In terms of breaking this down, I was going to
try and dive into a couple of things what the
Storm must do to win and what Penrith must do.
This is an odd one and I'd love your opinion
on this. In terms of the kickoff to the contest, right,
Nathan is the king of Penrith, and if you're going
to go into you need to go after the king directly.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now, this is a weird one.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
If I'm the Melbourne Store, Nathan is at the forty
meter line, just in off at the front line, I'm
actually going to kick it to Nathan and I want
him to take the first carry and I would make
a statement physically about picking up dragging him out throwing
him around, just make him he didn't land the ball
about thirty meters other thirty meters a little sandwich and
(09:16):
he has to get it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And then just everyone take the handbreak off.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So take that first contact out of his hand.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I'd almost give give away penalty if you if you
want to rough him up, if you want to like
stay at the top, lay down, whatever, don't give away
ten in the bit.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm not saying going to break the.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Law, make a statement because he's the spirit of that
team and it's a strange one to do off the kickoff,
Like if I'm Melbourne, I'm choosing to kick off and
I'd be doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
The other one we spoke about.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Is Paris turning the ball back inside right so they
get a lot of momentum from that. They feel in
the rhythm of their play. And this is them doing
it on the weekend. See, our Sharks are just a
little bit disconnected on the inside when they lay off.
Sometimes they get it good, sometimes they miss the beat.
Step up forward, this one moving forward. I like that
from the Sharks. That's what the Storm have to do.
(10:07):
If they're passive like that one. It allows Nathan to
generate momentum and play the ball speed this one here,
move forward, take the handbrake off. So I think defensively
the middle forward line speed. Once they do those drop
off players, He's a key for the Melbourne stim Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I totally agree with the coops and I think they
Whilst I wouldn't go outside in aggressively, I think you
need to squeeze in slightly because with Nathan, I'm just
trying to think. I can't remember him going across an
inside ball and going dummy under and throwing the long pass.
Usually it's up hits it, undeath, or he's gonna dummy.
He goes dummy and shoot.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And is when we talk about line speed to always
talk about the edge of fence getting up in front
of the middle, and sometimes the middle filling behind in
case of a linebreak. What I'm saying is, don't worry
about filling the behind, go forward. Particularly when Nathan runs
across field. I almost would someone take the handbrake off
and fire out a line like it's almost like outside
in pressure but from the inside defense.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It does coop because you look and it's a lot
we're talking about before is a lot. I thought that
Kronulla paid too much respect for Nathan's ball playing, like
when he was doing the inside balls, let's say before
he caught and they went yep to hold hold and
it's just easy meters where you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You just got to get on the front foot and
the last one.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I think it works for the Storm.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Last time they played Perer, they scored two tries off kicks.
They must compete on every fifth play tackle. This is
the one kicking it straight. Here to deal with Edwards
whin warbricks, some tall timber gets through and they must
do this the Melbourne Storm if they had to win,
I think they score a couple of tries off kicks.
You've got to Edwards and Truber. Again, we always talk
about it. Not the tallest of outside backs. But here
(11:47):
bring to to the ballcha don't let him sit back
on that ten meter line. We always talk about kicking
the ball near the try line. Watch this foot leg speed,
footsteps need to make Edwards and top Iron Thruver walk
at those balls because as you showed before they catch,
they run, they get their rid of they do anything.
We always talk about trying to kick the ball as
(12:08):
close to the trail. One as possible, I'm going to say,
bring that ten to fifteen meters forward and make it
a context.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Pushing back down'tum at all. And Two what coops.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's funny how one thing you can do in the
game well triggers into other areas.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So if you're doing.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That and you squash squashing their play one and you
squashing their play two, suddenly the Penrith middles got to
start working harder. Suddenly, then their middle start become more
vulnerable for when the Storm start peppering the right through
the middle of the field.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So three things I think Melbourne Storm sort of must
do to win Flip side.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, the Panthers just once that you wrote something else
down that you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This really interests me.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You said the Penrith interchange when there's an opportunity there
when Leoder and Fisher Harris get replaced, a window where
Melbourne need to pick up the temper yep.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So I think Melbourne can't get caught behind off the faster.
I think they need to be equal with what Fisher,
Harris and Leota do twenty minutes either side of halftime.
When you see a chink in one of the best teams.
I think it's their bench rotation. Melbourne Storm, Spine score points,
run the ball twenty minutes either halftime. I think when
(13:17):
Lindsey Smith, Liam Henry, whoever else they've got out there,
that's the time for the Melbourne Storm to sort of
go up again.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And it's interesting on the weekend, the moment Jared went off,
there was a big change in the contest, Like Melbourne
started winning the yardage battle and the Swine players started
drawing through the middle.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So I think that's the period of time did they dominate.
For Panthers, I think they've got to start when their
big boppers are on. But they've got this presence with
already winning three in a row. This is the last
ride and they did it to the Rouses in Week
one of the finals. Just that pure power game. As
we film this, we don't know about Nelson. If Nelson's
not playing, this one hundred percent has to happen. Just
(13:55):
Leoda Fish Harris just bang down that front door and
put the Melbourne Storm on the back foot.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's finally keeps a lot with the Panthers the back
third of the season. And we've spoken about this a
few times is that they'd start that they were almost
too happy to get into the arm wrestle and they started.
They pride themselves on the kings of the arm wrestle
on the grind, but they did too much of it
in this game. What I liked about this game is
they started fast and they gave themselves an opportunity to
(14:22):
blow the roosters away.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, so let's say redline about eight or ten, just
trying to conserve energy for the long game. They just
dialed it up to nine and a half and blew
the Russ away. I think that's what they need to
do for the Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
So that like a couple of years ago, Melbourne beat
Penrith in Penrith and Penrith are on a big home run.
Melbourne the first side for a long time to move
them at home. I know for a fact going to
that game. Melbourne's thing where we want to get to
an arm wrestle with them because then we can do
a Penrith on Penry.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I think they're one of the few teams that can
do it. Like normally are we consider kicking into touch
and of that to stop the back three. But I
think Melbourne Storm can roll with Penrith in the long game.
I think they've got the same fitness levels, the same
endurance levels, the same game style that holds up for
long periods. I think it's a big thing here because
(15:15):
if they go ten, twelve to fifteen minutes of football
in action, the first team that cracks, that's a mini
win for the opposition.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
How are they going to contain the creative team of
Melbourne as a spine.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So as I said, I think this is where it's
won or lost in this game.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It put a hell of a lot of pressure on
the edgeback rolls in Garner and Martin. Martin will be
up against Munster, Garner up against Hughes. If they have
their best defensive performance in five years and shut down
the running game of the spine of a Melbourne Storm,
I think they win. Martin is an amazing back row.
I think he can cover Munster. I don't know if
(15:53):
Garner can stop Hughes, but that's where it sits for me.
Those two halves can't get up and go, and if
they've got a line break in them early in contest,
like they're running game in the finals has been a lead,
I think that is a good sign that Melbourne are
getting on top. If they don't, it's a good sign
that Peneth are getting job.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's funny. It's not funny what I was saying. That's funny.
Absolutely is it funny?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Hilarious the Melbourne Storm, there's no doubt the biggest threat
for them is going through the middle. I mean they
can push the ball at the edge, they're very good
pushing the ball at the edge, but the primary threat
is through the middle. So coops, if you're Melbourne, excuse me,
if you're Penrith, do you just do you tighten a
little bit more?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yes, And I think you've got to be able to
play different styles in this game because I feel like
it's going to be a brutal game, but there's going
to be a game of chest in the same part.
And for scoring points for Penrith, I think they attack
Melbourne's centers. Yeah, Jamini on the right, this is exactly
the play that we spoke about early. This will be
Nick Mennie on the right side. I think that play
(16:55):
is coming. And on the other side you've got Jack
Howerth so assimilarate this play that was weak one of
the finals. See how Jack Herth gets caught in no
man's land. I think that is absolutely a target for
clearing his crew here again me no eyes for Swaliti
out the back, good pass there, I think that's an
opportunity that Peneth will be looking at. And then this
(17:15):
one here, This came up last time they played from
wide field positions, a threat of Zaio running the football,
a little short pass, Howarth worried about Dylan Edwards. So
I think you'll see a lot of action in and
around the Storm centers once Penrith get down to their
good baller.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And a few weeks here we said Isaiah ah As
opposed to coming around on a traditional sweep stilled on
my square, which made him straight and exposed young Jack
even more.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, the running threat of Isaiah up against months that
then made months to become more aware and that's when
the gap was crewed. So a couple of things there
to keep your eye on in this contest.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Cooper, we said before about Ivan and the press conference. Now,
I have no doubt that they're going to go, particularly
to Meani's side, because Meani and Will sometimes, like you
just show, can get disconnected. Mooni has played most of
his football Storm on the wing.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Or at fullback, so it's a new experience for him there.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But they can also just rush in blindly outside in
It's almost like the principle of how Beliak wants to
defend their neck tied to it sometimes as opposed to
sitting and at times pulling out of that structure and
just solving the problems.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
He's saying that Ivan said what he said after the game,
not based on what necessarily happened in that game, but
all leaning towards that don't interfere with they are.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That that tells me because I was sitting watching Ivan
press Cubs and he's going, I'm I'm really worried. I'm
I'm having a lot of anxiety about that. I thought
you're having anxiety about that live in my life.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
It is a terrible decision and that gives me a
lot of anxiety around next week if that bunk of
fish I think was that was wrong and it's been
happening all year and that Yeah, they shouldn't have even scored.
You know, we shouldn't have been down there like we
Actually that was the one time we sort of sort
of our stuff out.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Round to play perfectly. Ran to his inside Childer.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
He actually Siffer, Actually he actually initiated contact.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, so that worries.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Me about next week if that same bunk official, either
he or someone else is going off the same script.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm concerned. But I'm having a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And I thought, well, the reason is that's where they're
going to go in the Grand Final, and that's who
they're going to right at the point, that's exactly the
sequence they're going to play.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, I agree with you. I'd rather have Ivan's head
noise than your head noise. But there's no doubt that
I agreed with Ivan. I thought this was a poor decision.
That is Talakai taking a dive and a bump into
a player.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
One of the things that this game has done wrong,
in my opinion is taken the football ex football person
out of the bunker to give some football knowledge to it.
But you might be right having that as a known
fact that they will be targeting the centers of the
Melbourne store and having that given no try.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I think that was a bad call.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And Asley came out today Gray man Azlein said it
was a try.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Really interesting.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
You got, mate, you got in this game? Give me
winner score? Well, Churchill put you on the spot.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Now, look, this game could very easily because you've got
two sides that are so close, two sides that are
great at arm wrestle, and two creative players that are
brilliant under pressure big game players. Everything to million points towards.
It almost been a golden point type game. Just one
or two points at the very end is going to
(20:37):
split them. I look, I love the way the Melbourne
Storm are playing. I think the Melbourne Storm look a
little bit more fresh than the Penris side. However, right
from the middle of the year, I've said that Penals
will win the comp they'll go for in a row,
so I'm going to stick with them.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I think it is going golden point Penish defense up
against the running game of the Melbourne Storm spine. In
big games normally defense overrules attack.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But I'm hoping that the Melbourne Storm can get it done.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Golden point twenty three to twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Okay, I'll go hmm, God, I'm indecisive today, didn't have breakfast.
Love those fruit loops. I'll go twenty all into golden point.
Nathan Cleary Key So twenty one twenty Clivee.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Churchill Medal Old Dylan Edwards. You don't go broke back
in the day.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
You didn't go break back in Bart Cummings of.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
The Melbourne Cup. You don't go broke back in Dylan Edwards.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
In big games, Yeah, I reckon Papous is the key
for the Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, trigger game tee. What taught me through Munster?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Just quick the going into this game Like Munster in
these really really big games.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He's almost got like this mindset that someone like Nicko
Hines needs to take a bit out of. Like he
will walk into a cour stadium on Sunday night thinking
that he's about to dominate. He's like Leeds there of
a rockband that walks out on stage and just when
the bright lights turned on and turns it on. Liam Gallia, Yeah, overthings.
(22:12):
I think when he overthinks it and gets too creative
and too game of chess, he loses thrust. But I
think he'll be a mars Man. I think Martin isn't
going to miss his assignment. Hughes super confident, but it
could be a big week for Jerome with everything that's
going on, So I think they're sort of worried about it,
and that's when it opens up for someone like Harry
(22:33):
Grant will be making a lot of tackles. I just
feel like Papenhausen might be the point of difference.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Remember a few years ago after when Melbourne the Grand
Final and I asked Manster, I said to him, was
on TV or radio. I said to him, so money,
when when you call the ball and you're heading towards
the line, what do you think about what you're looking for? Anyway,
when I run to the line, he said, you gotta understand,
I'm like that monkey who's got those two plate things
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all symbols.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I think you said that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
A couple of times since Jerome Hughes Delian medal.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He deserves it. Cops, been a great year. Well not
good on you, mate. Now we'll run to you.
Better than the Lego better than the Lego.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Coops. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
We've made its final podcast. I think final one.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Off the top. I want to talk about the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Firstly, let's talk about last weekend before we get into.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
The Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Off the top, one of the best thought out sequence
plays that I've seen leading up to Penrith's first try
starts off to Nathan Cleary London.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
A little bit of pressure Penrith.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
And forty twenty third tackle and you see when he
works down, he walks down and he turns around, he
can he'll start communicating what he wants from this next set,
right is what we're going to do now this I
just love the way they play this out. So they
take it up firstly, which will be Leota to.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Go on full control of the team right there.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
And you're watching here.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They hit the far post area, a little play for
the player to start with, typically inside ball for jer Haaris.
Then they lay the far past. Now watch Nathan here.
This is crucial. He gets there and straight away he
presents himself early, so carnally go here we go here,
let's get up on him, up on him. No, we're
going to take one more and it just it's wrong
foot him. They're going to get back on the line
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and the next play he's caught him on their heels.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
He did the similar thing in the Grand Final, kicked
that forty twenty that ignited the comeback. He's picking on
lazy wingers to start with, So when Nathan clearly wants
to kick of forty twenty, he's up in the front
line as opposed to behind Oao and then directing that set.
I love the fact that Leo would carry with It's
like telling a lie with a sequence, absolutely and then
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made them come up then go back. So there was
multiple times whether the edge defense of the Sharks thought
that Nathan was going to shift the time that they
didn't have the energy of the line speed to get up.
And it's picking on Nico Hines like he was under pressure.
Putting runners inside and outside just made him make a decision, and.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
He exactly targeting there and actually also targeting Tellerchuies his
ability to have the gas and the tank to shut
outside in, to shut the space, and he was slow
to the part.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Play we'll come again this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Absolutely, we're going to talk about that in a second,
because yeah, I found it interesting after the game the
press conference with Ivan, I've got some thoughts about that. Firstly,
the other one is we talk about the inside balls
all the time, and a fellow said to me, why
doesn't penwith just take just take the ball up, get forward,
just w when Nathan handles the ball. When the ball
hits Nathan's hands, most times the defense sort of sit
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on their heels and they freeze.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
In fact, the defense sort of flexes open.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
A little bit because they're so aware of his threat
not just to run, but to push the ball to
the edge. So a lot of times it's just always
an easy ten meters for the middles. It's just a
really simple basic thing. But again another thing that just
takes pressure off his forwards.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, we'll talk about it in terms of what the
storm have to do, but they have to counter that. Yeah,
they have to get the line speed and shut that down.
When you're in a rhythm like Nathan, what you need
to do is throw him completely off. He needs to
have one Some of those runners not get avare his
line play the balls, so he feels like he has
to go back to a normal one off carry. Get
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Mitch Kenny more involved, but it's the power of the
Penith system at play.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
One more thing on Penrith.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
We're going to talk about this later, but watching the
Penwouth big guys, they've been playing a really hard style
of football for about five years, a lot of big games.
To me, they just starting to look a little tired, don't.
But there's certain things that I'm saying that they do.
But what's helping their cause is the amount of work
the outside backs to I mean, look at this is
a typical set. They kick down field, Dylan Edwards, well,
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he does the initial run, gets forward, he plays the
football surprise surprise on play two, so he punches forward
that extra one or two movies through the leg drive
he got Taruva then coming from the other side of
the field to take the hit up. Now okay, first
time we've soon a forward isaaah, take the ball up
lightweight forward, then finish with Dylan Edwards again.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Then let's get it out of there.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That's just alleviating so much pressure off Fish and theoda.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's conserving energy.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's been effective, and that's the Penith system again at
work and the outside backs.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Alamodi didn't have a carry.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
He got that kick chase in so when one works,
the other one rests, conserves energy and they compliment each
other all over the field.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's going to be a hell of a game.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And to be able to stop Penrith from winning Melbourne Storm,
we have to stop some of that.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
On Melbourne Storm, we'll talk about Nelson and the fact
that he's likely to miss this or he's going to
fight it. As we're recording this, he hasn't gone to judiciary.
But the Storm the mental toughness to be leading at
halftime twenty four to six, and then the Roosters come
out a ten minute period and go try and try
where it goes twenty four to twenty six. I Regon
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twenty four to eighteen. Sorry, I reckon most sides there
would start to tighten up a little bit. They feel
like we're on the slide of the moment and slung
the other way. They didn't miss a beat. They met
it with physicality and aggression and just bludgeoned over the
top of the Rooster.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
I thought that performance from Melbourne was an indication of
a team at the peak of there powers right now.
The week off after winning Week one, they were fresh.
They just played everything faster, like they play the ball speed,
their line speed, their skill and execution.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
The try that hows.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Scored when Pabinow's and quick tap like that was just
moving faster than the opposition. I like the fact that
Storm a consistent team like Penrith. They don't give away
cheap possession to the oppositions. But the good players are
playing well jeez Like it's almost the perfect ingredients of
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a premiership winning team. Same as the Penrith path. You
do the basics better than anyone else. I'm talking defendwell,
completion rate, good kicking, good discipline. There are four things
you must do.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
In our game. They do it better than anyone else.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
But then the rise to the top. Your best players
need to be the best player and both teams are
doing that.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Likes a fortune as far as injuries and freshness concerned,
Like we have strength and conditioners and all this, but
at the end of the day, sometimes it just lacks.
Sometimes fatigue just gets indy at the back end of
the year. Where with Melbourne this time all their creatives
are fresh. So Munster's been preserved because of the fact
he's had the injuries. He through the injuries, his peaked
form Jerome's in the form of his life. Pappenhausen is
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finally fingers crossed through this horror period and is hitting
top four and Harry Grant last year at this point
Harry was he was wobbling, He looked just about going.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He looks tremendous.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I think this is.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Where this game is one and lost in terms of
the storm Spine versus the best defense we've seen in
a long time. If Penrith defensively can stop the storm
Spine from running the ball yep, I think they win.
If storm Spying get up and going, I think they win.
That's where it sits for me, and I'm with you.
I think Papenhausen, the footwork and acceleration of Munster and
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Hughes on either side. If you can get Papenhausen one
on one speed like you did on the weekend to
the Rooster's edge defenders, he is team for me. Could
be the guy that just turns out one opportunity into
a line breaker a try.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
When you watch Jerown, who will go gun barrel straight,
but then he'll hit pap and Hous on a sweep
and suddenly he's going like a rocket.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
He just pulls that defensi apart.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
If we look at the first two Melbourne tries a
perfect example. Luke here, like he's forcing experienced guys to
break the cardinal rules of defense, don't slide till the
ball goes pasture. But Luke is so urgent to try
to protect the three on two on the edge that
he slides. And it's similar to the next try again Luke.
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You watch Luke squeeze in here. But what happens is
all of a sudden he's got to go on Paps
and he can't help it.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Overchase.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And if I'm Melbourne Storm, I'm telling Ryan Papenhausen to
stretch Nathan Cleary. When Nathan clearly has to stretch that
army in a tackle and reach for someone like Papenhausen,
that's when the shoulder might be in a really uncomfortable
position because he can deal with things closed defensively, but
when he's been stretched like that Jarring on the weekend,
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he had to have both armed stretched. So the speed
of Papenhausen could be a huge indicator in this game.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Cooper, just two things for it's over to you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Interesting start of the year interviewing Nathan Cleary, and he
spoke about the twenty twenty loss to the Melbourne Storm
and how that has made this playing squad been a
big part of this dynasty from Penrith. He said, we
went into that game and we look back now and
we realize we'll playing like boys. They're playing like men,
and they bullied us and we said never again.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well it's come full sir. Yeah, so this is they're
looking for payback.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, and it's going to be a huge game.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
In terms of breaking this down, I was going to
try and dive into a couple of things what the
Storm must do to win and what Penrith must do.
This is an odd one and I'd love your opinion
on this. In terms of the kickoff to the contest, right,
Nathan is the king of Penrith, and if you're going
to go into you need to go after the king directly.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now, this is a weird one.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
If I'm the Melbourne Store, Nathan is at the forty
meter line, just in off at the front line, I'm
actually going to kick it to Nathan and I want
him to take the first carry and I would make
a statement physically about picking up dragging him out throwing
him around, just make him he didn't land the ball
about thirty meters other thirty meters a little sandwich and
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he has to get it.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And then just everyone take the handbreak off.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
It's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
So take that first contact out of his hand.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I'd almost give give away penalty if you if you
want to rough him up, if you want to like
stay at the top, lay down, whatever, don't give away
ten in the bit.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm not saying going to break the.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Law, make a statement because he's the spirit of that
team and it's a strange one to do off the kickoff,
Like if I'm Melbourne, I'm choosing to kick off and
I'd be doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
The other one we spoke about.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Is Paris turning the ball back inside right so they
get a lot of momentum from that. They feel in
the rhythm of their play. And this is them doing
it on the weekend. See, our Sharks are just a
little bit disconnected on the inside when they lay off.
Sometimes they get it good, sometimes they miss the beat.
Step up forward, this one moving forward. I like that
from the Sharks. That's what the Storm have to do.
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If they're passive like that one. It allows Nathan to
generate momentum and play the ball speed this one here,
move forward, take the handbrake off. So I think defensively
the middle forward line speed. Once they do those drop
off players, He's a key for the Melbourne stim Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I totally agree with the coops and I think they
Whilst I wouldn't go outside in aggressively, I think you
need to squeeze in slightly because with Nathan, I'm just
trying to think. I can't remember him going across an
inside ball and going dummy under and throwing the long pass.
Usually it's up hits it, undeath, or he's gonna dummy.
He goes dummy and shoot.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
And is when we talk about line speed to always
talk about the edge of fence getting up in front
of the middle, and sometimes the middle filling behind in
case of a linebreak. What I'm saying is, don't worry
about filling the behind, go forward. Particularly when Nathan runs
across field. I almost would someone take the handbrake off
and fire out a line like it's almost like outside
in pressure but from the inside defense.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It does coop because you look and it's a lot
we're talking about before is a lot. I thought that
Kronulla paid too much respect for Nathan's ball playing, like
when he was doing the inside balls, let's say before
he caught and they went yep to hold hold and
it's just easy meters where you're right.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You just got to get on the front foot and
the last one.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I think it works for the Storm.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Last time they played Perer, they scored two tries off kicks.
They must compete on every fifth play tackle. This is
the one kicking it straight. Here to deal with Edwards
whin warbricks, some tall timber gets through and they must
do this the Melbourne Storm if they had to win,
I think they score a couple of tries off kicks.
You've got to Edwards and Truber. Again, we always talk
about it. Not the tallest of outside backs. But here
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bring to to the ballcha don't let him sit back
on that ten meter line. We always talk about kicking
the ball near the try line. Watch this foot leg speed,
footsteps need to make Edwards and top Iron Thruver walk
at those balls because as you showed before they catch,
they run, they get their rid of they do anything.
We always talk about trying to kick the ball as
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close to the trail. One as possible, I'm going to say,
bring that ten to fifteen meters forward and make it
a context.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Pushing back down'tum at all. And Two what coops.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
It's funny how one thing you can do in the
game well triggers into other areas.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So if you're doing.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That and you squash squashing their play one and you
squashing their play two, suddenly the Penrith middles got to
start working harder. Suddenly, then their middle start become more
vulnerable for when the Storm start peppering the right through
the middle of the field.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
So three things I think Melbourne Storm sort of must
do to win Flip side.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Well, the Panthers just once that you wrote something else
down that you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
This really interests me.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You said the Penrith interchange when there's an opportunity there
when Leoder and Fisher Harris get replaced, a window where
Melbourne need to pick up the temper yep.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So I think Melbourne can't get caught behind off the faster.
I think they need to be equal with what Fisher,
Harris and Leota do twenty minutes either side of halftime.
When you see a chink in one of the best teams.
I think it's their bench rotation. Melbourne Storm, Spine score points,
run the ball twenty minutes either halftime. I think when
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Lindsey Smith, Liam Henry, whoever else they've got out there,
that's the time for the Melbourne Storm to sort of
go up again.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And it's interesting on the weekend, the moment Jared went off,
there was a big change in the contest, Like Melbourne
started winning the yardage battle and the Swine players started
drawing through the middle.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So I think that's the period of time did they dominate.
For Panthers, I think they've got to start when their
big boppers are on. But they've got this presence with
already winning three in a row. This is the last
ride and they did it to the Rouses in Week
one of the finals. Just that pure power game. As
we film this, we don't know about Nelson. If Nelson's
not playing, this one hundred percent has to happen. Just
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Leoda Fish Harris just bang down that front door and
put the Melbourne Storm on the back foot.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It's finally keeps a lot with the Panthers the back
third of the season. And we've spoken about this a
few times is that they'd start that they were almost
too happy to get into the arm wrestle and they started.
They pride themselves on the kings of the arm wrestle
on the grind, but they did too much of it
in this game. What I liked about this game is
they started fast and they gave themselves an opportunity to
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blow the roosters away.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, so let's say redline about eight or ten, just
trying to conserve energy for the long game. They just
dialed it up to nine and a half and blew
the Russ away. I think that's what they need to
do for the Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
So that like a couple of years ago, Melbourne beat
Penrith in Penrith and Penrith are on a big home run.
Melbourne the first side for a long time to move
them at home. I know for a fact going to
that game. Melbourne's thing where we want to get to
an arm wrestle with them because then we can do
a Penrith on Penry.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I think they're one of the few teams that can
do it. Like normally are we consider kicking into touch
and of that to stop the back three. But I
think Melbourne Storm can roll with Penrith in the long game.
I think they've got the same fitness levels, the same
endurance levels, the same game style that holds up for
long periods. I think it's a big thing here because
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if they go ten, twelve to fifteen minutes of football
in action, the first team that cracks, that's a mini
win for the opposition.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
How are they going to contain the creative team of
Melbourne as a spine.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So as I said, I think this is where it's
won or lost in this game.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
It put a hell of a lot of pressure on
the edgeback rolls in Garner and Martin. Martin will be
up against Munster, Garner up against Hughes. If they have
their best defensive performance in five years and shut down
the running game of the spine of a Melbourne Storm,
I think they win. Martin is an amazing back row.
I think he can cover Munster. I don't know if
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Garner can stop Hughes, but that's where it sits for me.
Those two halves can't get up and go, and if
they've got a line break in them early in contest,
like they're running game in the finals has been a lead,
I think that is a good sign that Melbourne are
getting on top. If they don't, it's a good sign
that Peneth are getting job.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
It's funny. It's not funny what I was saying. That's funny.
Absolutely is it funny?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Hilarious the Melbourne Storm, there's no doubt the biggest threat
for them is going through the middle. I mean they
can push the ball at the edge, they're very good
pushing the ball at the edge, but the primary threat
is through the middle. So coops, if you're Melbourne, excuse me,
if you're Penrith, do you just do you tighten a
little bit more?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yes, And I think you've got to be able to
play different styles in this game because I feel like
it's going to be a brutal game, but there's going
to be a game of chest in the same part.
And for scoring points for Penrith, I think they attack
Melbourne's centers. Yeah, Jamini on the right, this is exactly
the play that we spoke about early. This will be
Nick Mennie on the right side. I think that play
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is coming. And on the other side you've got Jack
Howerth so assimilarate this play that was weak one of
the finals. See how Jack Herth gets caught in no
man's land. I think that is absolutely a target for
clearing his crew here again me no eyes for Swaliti
out the back, good pass there, I think that's an
opportunity that Peneth will be looking at. And then this
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one here, This came up last time they played from
wide field positions, a threat of Zaio running the football,
a little short pass, Howarth worried about Dylan Edwards. So
I think you'll see a lot of action in and
around the Storm centers once Penrith get down to their
good baller.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And a few weeks here we said Isaiah ah As
opposed to coming around on a traditional sweep stilled on
my square, which made him straight and exposed young Jack
even more.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Yeah, the running threat of Isaiah up against months that
then made months to become more aware and that's when
the gap was crewed. So a couple of things there
to keep your eye on in this contest.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Cooper, we said before about Ivan and the press conference. Now,
I have no doubt that they're going to go, particularly
to Meani's side, because Meani and Will sometimes, like you
just show, can get disconnected. Mooni has played most of
his football Storm on the wing.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Or at fullback, so it's a new experience for him there.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But they can also just rush in blindly outside in
It's almost like the principle of how Beliak wants to
defend their neck tied to it sometimes as opposed to
sitting and at times pulling out of that structure and
just solving the problems.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
He's saying that Ivan said what he said after the game,
not based on what necessarily happened in that game, but
all leaning towards that don't interfere with they are.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That that tells me because I was sitting watching Ivan
press Cubs and he's going, I'm I'm really worried. I'm
I'm having a lot of anxiety about that. I thought
you're having anxiety about that live in my life.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
It is a terrible decision and that gives me a
lot of anxiety around next week if that bunk of
fish I think was that was wrong and it's been
happening all year and that Yeah, they shouldn't have even scored.
You know, we shouldn't have been down there like we
Actually that was the one time we sort of sort
of our stuff out.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Round to play perfectly. Ran to his inside Childer.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
He actually Siffer, Actually he actually initiated contact.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, so that worries.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Me about next week if that same bunk official, either
he or someone else is going off the same script.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I'm concerned. But I'm having a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And I thought, well, the reason is that's where they're
going to go in the Grand Final, and that's who
they're going to right at the point, that's exactly the
sequence they're going to play.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, I agree with you. I'd rather have Ivan's head
noise than your head noise. But there's no doubt that
I agreed with Ivan. I thought this was a poor decision.
That is Talakai taking a dive and a bump into
a player.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
One of the things that this game has done wrong,
in my opinion is taken the football ex football person
out of the bunker to give some football knowledge to it.
But you might be right having that as a known
fact that they will be targeting the centers of the
Melbourne store and having that given no try.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I think that was a bad call.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And Asley came out today Gray man Azlein said it
was a try.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Really interesting.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
You got, mate, you got in this game? Give me
winner score? Well, Churchill put you on the spot.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Now, look, this game could very easily because you've got
two sides that are so close, two sides that are
great at arm wrestle, and two creative players that are
brilliant under pressure big game players. Everything to million points towards.
It almost been a golden point type game. Just one
or two points at the very end is going to
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split them. I look, I love the way the Melbourne
Storm are playing. I think the Melbourne Storm look a
little bit more fresh than the Penris side. However, right
from the middle of the year, I've said that Penals
will win the comp they'll go for in a row,
so I'm going to stick with them.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I think it is going golden point Penish defense up
against the running game of the Melbourne Storm spine. In
big games normally defense overrules attack.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But I'm hoping that the Melbourne Storm can get it done.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Golden point twenty three to twenty two.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Okay, I'll go hmm, God, I'm indecisive today, didn't have breakfast.
Love those fruit loops. I'll go twenty all into golden point.
Nathan Cleary Key So twenty one twenty Clivee.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Churchill Medal Old Dylan Edwards. You don't go broke back
in the day.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
You didn't go break back in Bart Cummings of.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
The Melbourne Cup. You don't go broke back in Dylan Edwards.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
In big games, Yeah, I reckon Papous is the key
for the Melbourne Storm.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, trigger game tee. What taught me through Munster?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Just quick the going into this game Like Munster in
these really really big games.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
He's almost got like this mindset that someone like Nicko
Hines needs to take a bit out of. Like he
will walk into a cour stadium on Sunday night thinking
that he's about to dominate. He's like Leeds there of
a rockband that walks out on stage and just when
the bright lights turned on and turns it on. Liam Gallia, Yeah, overthings.
(22:12):
I think when he overthinks it and gets too creative
and too game of chess, he loses thrust. But I
think he'll be a mars Man. I think Martin isn't
going to miss his assignment. Hughes super confident, but it
could be a big week for Jerome with everything that's
going on, So I think they're sort of worried about it,
and that's when it opens up for someone like Harry
(22:33):
Grant will be making a lot of tackles. I just
feel like Papenhausen might be the point of difference.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Remember a few years ago after when Melbourne the Grand
Final and I asked Manster, I said to him, was
on TV or radio. I said to him, so money,
when when you call the ball and you're heading towards
the line, what do you think about what you're looking for? Anyway,
when I run to the line, he said, you gotta understand,
I'm like that monkey who's got those two plate things
(23:00):
all symbols.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I think you said that.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
A couple of times since Jerome Hughes Delian medal.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
He deserves it. Cops, been a great year. Well not
good on you, mate. Now we'll run to you.
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