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August 19, 2025 36 mins

Here at Mindtools Towers, we're no strangers to benchmarking in L&D. We've regularly mentioned our Learning Performance Benchmark over the years, and we dedicated an entire episode to 'The value of benchmarking' back in 2021.  So, naturally, we were intrigued when David James released the 'L&D Maturity Model', and wanted to invite him onto the show to discuss it.

This week on The Mindtools L&D Podcast, David joins us to explore:

  • Why David developed his maturity model, and what makes it different
  • The limitations of self-assessment-based models
  • What practitioners can expect to get out of benchmarking
  • How L&D teams can move up the levels of the model and increase their maturity.

You can find out more about The L&D Maturity Model here. You can find the Learning & Development Podcast, 'wherever you get your podcasts'.

In 'What I Learned This Week', Anna explained the history of 'via ferrata', following her holiday in the Dolomites.

David talked about 'imaginal discs' in butterflies.

And Ross dropped a fresh new AI-generated beat about his son, AKA Lil Dribs.

For more from us, visit mindtools.com. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning Content Hub, our Manager Skills Assessment, our Manager Skill Builder and our custom work. 

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