July 16, 2025 • 51 mins
Grab your knee pads and get ready to shred! Hosts Krissy Lenz and Nathan Blackwell tackle the 1986 skateboarding flick Thrashin', starring baby-faced Josh Brolin fresh off The Goonies. This loose Romeo and Juliet adaptation follows Corey Webster as he navigates Venice Beach skate gangs, romance, and the ultimate downhill race—the LA Massacre.Key Discussion Points
The 80s Sports Movie Formula: Krissy and Nathan dive deep into how Thrashin' fits the classic 80s pattern of "secret counterculture sport" movies like Bloodsport, Rad, and Over the Top. These films were made by outsiders trying to dramatize subcultures they didn’t understand, resulting in gloriously inauthentic takes on skateboarding, break dancing, and martial arts.Skateboarding in the 80s: The hosts share personal memories of 80s skate culture—from coveting skateboard magazines and stickers to the reality of how incredibly difficult skating actually is. They discuss how the film treats skaters like gangs (the good "ramp locals" vs. the evil "daggers") rather than capturing authentic skate culture.Baby Josh Brolin: Before becoming Thanos, Josh Brolin was a smooth-faced teenager learning his craft. The hosts appreciate his early charisma while noting he hadn't yet developed his signature gravitas.Other Topics Covered
Both hosts rate Thrashin' a solid 5-5.5/10—"aggressively okay" with enough charm to entertain but lacking the cheesy fun factor to make it memorable.Deep Cut RecommendationsNathan suggests Over the Top (Stallone arm wrestling) for superior 80s sports schlock, while Krissy recommends Wet Hot American Summer as the perfect parody of these types of films.Subscribe to The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast for more radical retro reviews!
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The 80s Sports Movie Formula: Krissy and Nathan dive deep into how Thrashin' fits the classic 80s pattern of "secret counterculture sport" movies like Bloodsport, Rad, and Over the Top. These films were made by outsiders trying to dramatize subcultures they didn’t understand, resulting in gloriously inauthentic takes on skateboarding, break dancing, and martial arts.Skateboarding in the 80s: The hosts share personal memories of 80s skate culture—from coveting skateboard magazines and stickers to the reality of how incredibly difficult skating actually is. They discuss how the film treats skaters like gangs (the good "ramp locals" vs. the evil "daggers") rather than capturing authentic skate culture.Baby Josh Brolin: Before becoming Thanos, Josh Brolin was a smooth-faced teenager learning his craft. The hosts appreciate his early charisma while noting he hadn't yet developed his signature gravitas.Other Topics Covered
- Red Hot Chili Peppers' appearance as the party band
- The legendary skating pool location that real skaters cherished
- Nunchuck jousting as conflict resolution
- Hair earrings and other questionable 80s fashion choices
- The film's low-stakes Romeo and Juliet adaptation
- Skateboarding montages and safety gear appreciation
- The absurd LA Massacre downhill race finale
Both hosts rate Thrashin' a solid 5-5.5/10—"aggressively okay" with enough charm to entertain but lacking the cheesy fun factor to make it memorable.Deep Cut RecommendationsNathan suggests Over the Top (Stallone arm wrestling) for superior 80s sports schlock, while Krissy recommends Wet Hot American Summer as the perfect parody of these types of films.Subscribe to The Most Excellent 80s Movies Podcast for more radical retro reviews!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Most
Excellent Eighties Movies Podcast. Want to skip those ads and
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come with it. Hello, and welcome to the Most Excellent
(00:30):
Eighties Movies Podcast. It's the podcast. We're a filmmaker and
a comedian skate their way through the eighties movies we
think we love or might have missed with these our
modern eyes. And today we're talking about Thrashing, a movie
selection from nineteen eighty six, about which the Google overview says,
(00:53):
Corey played by Josh Brolin, and his band of skater
buddies sometimes make mischief, but they're more interested in girls
and having fun on their boards than getting into any
real trouble. Notorious enemy crew the Daggers, led by Tommy
Hook played by Robert Rustler, get their kicks terrorizing the
(01:17):
locals at Venice Beach. When Corey starts dating Tommy's kid's sister,
the Daggers are furious. The boys then take their beef
to the La Massacre, a deadly skate race down a
canyon road. All right, here comes the trailer.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Wherever you do, do it for us.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's a harbor great commercial.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well look at that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Here's a brisket commercial.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You've got to keep that in.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Corey Webster is taking off for l a l. He
lives to thrash, he loves to compete.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But the competition is a killer. You're gonna be the
most beautiful girl to clothe.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The music and the bangle and emotion, devout glow, the
red hot chili.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Pepper thrashing.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You, what do you got you?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I could be held like that?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, eight, Is it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Just a games maybe the Big BA.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's just a game, right, valley boy.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
You're like game, right, valley boy.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you'll Roman, Please don't go. You went down He'll
race Russian. It's not a kids game anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Uphill romance to a downhill race. It's possibly the most
clever line that's ever been inted upon in a trailer.
I'm Chrissy Lynz, one of the directors at the Neighborhood
Comedy Theater in downtown nest Arizona, and with me as always.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Is independent filmmaker Nathan Blackwell. Yeah, I feel like we've
finally got the introduction right.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Years.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, the key.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
By the second decade, we'll have really cracked this code.
We'll have figured it out for sure. Thrash. I have
never seen this movie. I've never heard of this movie.
Oh come on, no, really have you You've seen it,
(05:12):
you loved it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I have never seen this movie.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
No.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
When you I mean, when you've got an eighties movies
podcast and you're trying to figure out what to see,
you do look at some lists and consider.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like, what are the most eighties eighties movies? These are movies, So.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
This one is super eighties exactly, and and so it
was kind of on my short list for a while,
but there was never like a real desire to see it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But the bar is apparently very low in season eight.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, we've been doing bangers this whole season.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'm joking. I'm joking, Okay, I you know, I guess
it's we've been I've been wanting to get to tackle
some of these these movies that could only be made
in the eighties, that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Whether music or the fashion or the style, or just
the kind of movies that they stop making in the nineties,
like something that could only happen in the eighties and
thrashing for better or for worse is one of those.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Movies Thrash and Baby. Yeah. Uh, it stars a baby
Josh Brolin.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right off of Goonies, like right off of the set
of Goonies.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And he just has Thanos has a tiny baby face
in this and he's so cute and he never wears
a shirt.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a low budget, fun, fun
quotation marks, you know, skateboarding movie. But where this where
thrashing really falls into is in the eighties, there were
a lot of these Oh here's a secret look at
(07:07):
a counterculture.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Sport or or like some community and we're gonna blow
your mind with it. So think like blood Sport or
over the Top.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Honestly, I feel like like Karate Kid is the king
of that mountain, you know, Okay, because it really I
mean I remember being in the eighties and karate just
karate was a huge fad, and it was even before
the Karate Kid, but it was like another like little pocket,
(07:41):
secret society or or or sport. You know, it was
like something that people were really into, but it was
its own little world, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So you look at some of these movies like Red
or again like Blood Sports, leaving the Clube. Yeah, yeah,
but but yeah, it's kind of like.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's not made for the audience that's into it, you know,
because a lot of these movies are just pretty damn schlocky,
like you know, I'm sure, yeah, and it really, it
really makes it's a very authentic take on skateboarding culture.
(08:27):
They really make it look like gangs and they make
you know, they you know, they make like weird events and.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Like they're not into what actual skateboarders are into, you know,
which is doing the right petitions.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And you know, because that would just be a documentary,
you have to have the uphill romance and the downhill race, right.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Instead, it's always kind of like, oh, these punk counterculture people.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They don't listen, they don't want any part of the rules.
They want to live on the outside. They're all kind
of punk rockers, you know, making their own rules. And
then there's all these.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Different weird, weirdo characters.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
There's the.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, there's like the the gonzo character who's always
kind of supposed to be the comedic relief, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, and they've always got some kind of right there's
like never adults, and they've always got.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Some sort of pad or home base with graffiti on it.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, but it's always no adults anywhere, and you really
wonder how old they're supposed to be, Like are they
supposed to be in high school? Or are they and
it's the summer, or are they supposed to be like
young adults.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, all these all these movies, especially these sports movies,
you know, like these punk sports movies are all made
by people who really don't know anything about the sport.
You know, they don't know anything about the subject, so
they're trying to make it as crazy and ridicul listen,
over the top and I catching and dramatic and cinematic
(10:04):
as possible, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So there's just a lot of silly silliness in these movies.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, which is.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Which is honestly, like it's it's the fun of it.
The fun is just how grossly inaccurate. Like like the
other movie that kind of and I haven't seen it,
but I've seen the trailers is stuff like Breakin', you know,
where they're the secret world of breakdancing and it's like
where they of course they've got to have like you know,
(10:31):
it's like that's not really breakdancing. And all these like
weird competitions and things that you would never see in
like the legitimate.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Sport of skateboarding.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Dance, yeah, or breakdancing or I'm sure there's like at
least a dozen of these kinds of movies that you
could name, but I feel like Karate Kid.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Was the one that did it well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, Karate Kids sort of of one the challenge because
it's a good movie on top of being about you know,
this weird little like microculture. This I would not call
a good movie. Let's not say it's not to say
(11:20):
it wasn't a good time, right, but it's not a
good movie.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
If we're applying the definition of movie to this movie,
then yes, that is absolutely correct. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So it starts with a dream. Oh it's a dream,
a dream of a skate skaters all flying all over
the place, blurry skaters just flying through the air and
it seems like they're falling and we don't quite know
what's up, but it's all a dream. So Corey Webster
wakes up and he gets ready in an eighties get
(12:00):
Ready montage, which I love in eighties get Ready montage.
That was one of my favorite moments in Dream, A
little dream where they're getting ready and they're putting all
the moose in their hair and they're tearing their jeans
and stuff. We don't know where he is or where
he's going, but he basically rides his skateboard and thrashes
(12:23):
and hitchhikes hit his way to la I guess we
find out from whence?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We don't know the valley. Apparently, no, he went to
the valley.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh jeez, he's not from the valley.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I may be accused of not having thoroughly watched this
movie with my full attention.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Very well, well, let me explain it to you. He
goes and meets up with his little group of friends
who are gonna be a little gang for the summer,
and they built a ramp, so they all get ready
to try out the ramp. And what's good is that
they're all wearing knee pads and elbow pads, yes, and
(13:05):
they're taking their wrist health responsibly, so that's very good.
They're skating responsibly, and we see them like suiting up
and strapping on their pads, which is very good. We
get a ramp montage and then ramp montage going up
(13:26):
the ramp, going down the ramp, ramp montage. It's a
delightful ramp montage. It's really fun to watch them skate.
You know, like we said with the Flash Dance podcast,
the fun parts were watching them dance. Well, in this one,
(13:47):
I think the fun parts are watching them skate. Yeah,
it's not the movie in between, it's the montages.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
So the thing about this movie is that it is
a very loose, super loose Romeo and Juliette story. So
early on we are introduced to the evil gang, the
Daggers hook in.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The Daggers Hook and the Daggers they come up over
the hill, they crest the hill.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They're they're all, yeah, they're all.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
They're all wearing like blue jeans and they've got like
these like rocker spikes and and earrings. So this movie
posits that skaters are like gangs, and so there's a
good gang and then there's.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
A bad gang, and well, you know, it reminded me
a lot of the movie Point Break, which is is
not it should have been my deep cut recommendation, but
it's not. Because they have all these rules about where
you can surf and where you can't surf. If you're
a local or if you're from a different part of
(15:01):
the beach. So it reminded me of that. I felt
like at home with the Oh you're not a local. Oh,
we are a local. We're the ramp locals. Well we're
the daggers. We skate at Venis Beach, so you can't
skate at Venice Beach. So exactly it made sense to me.
Good good, And they don't like the ramp locals because
(15:24):
they're from the valley. I've kind of.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Cat who was just trying to push my microphone right
off the table.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh no, don't do that, kiddy. He loved rash and
he's really mad that we're not taking it seriously.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So yeah, so they And when I.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Say a loose adaptation of Romeo and Juliet, I mean,
I don't need like a beat by Beat.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't need like their parents and a ghost or
anything like that.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
But what I do need, which this movie doesn't really have,
is like any real tangible consequences.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That he's dating the daughter of his enemy, like.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
The yeah, because honestly, like the if, that if, if,
the if, the not the daughter, jeez, the sister.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The sister.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, though he is constantly like draping his arm around.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Her from the moment they meet. From the moment they meet,
he's draping his arm around her.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He is super affectionate with his sister.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh right, the brother and sister. I thought you meant
Corey and the sister. But everyone's always got their arms
around her, like she just can't have a shoulder to herself.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yes, but if she didn't exist, he would have still
done all the dicky moves that he ended up doing,
you know, the kind of hazing and challenging and things
like that. I was really hoping that there, that the
steaks would have been higher because of the love affair.
(17:09):
But they treat it very casually. They treat it very
low temperature.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, and it's uh.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Not.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It's almost a romance between the Corey and the Tommy
Hook more than it is a romance between Corey and Chrissy.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't love that her name was Chrissy.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
By the way, there's there there.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I mean it doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's really kind of a a Maverick and Iceman light right,
much more what it was like very light because it's like,
you know, ooh, spoilers for Thrashing.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's not really until the end moment.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That they they kind of reached in a chord yeah,
identical to Top Gun. But they do go to a
party where the Red Hot Chili Peppers are playing.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Which is totally nuts, Like this movie is is bargain basement.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And then they bring out the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who,
of course were probably not a huge deal at the time.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
One hopes Nope, You're like watching them thrash around and
you're just like, okay, so the Red Hot Chili Pillow
Peppers have always been like that.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Then all right, uh huh yeah, and it's and it's
a lot of fun because they are babies also.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yes, So there's several competitions throughout this movie. The first
one is a pool competition where they go skate a pool.
I read that somewhere in there is Tony Hawk. So
if you can spot the Tony Hawks, yes you win.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah. So so this this this pool.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So the pool competition is that the waters obviously removed
from the pool, but this was one of those like
legendaries skating spots that had been closed and was open
just for the movie, and it was a big big
deal to the real skaters, and so they skated their
hearts out for all those days being in the movie,
(19:16):
and when they were in the movie, they just made
the most out of it, and they said that was
the best thing about Thresh and.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Was being able to use that spot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, this is a good opportunity to talk about skateboarding,
because skateboarding.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
In the eighties, this was like a big deal.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
This was like, at least for me, Like I remember,
this was like the cool thing, Like this was the
cool big thing that you know, me as like a
thirteen year old or or whatever like that was.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That was one of those things that I perceived as
being super cool that I could.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Never really do, but I really wanted to do, so
it was I oh yeah, yeah, So skateboarding back back
in the eighties was a big deal, just like huffy bikes.
But uh, I was definitely one of those kids who
(20:17):
really wanted to kind of hook into that coolness, but
I really didn't like actually skating, like you know, So
I would get magazines and I would bug my parents
to get a skateboard for my birthday and wanted wanted
to go to the skateboard shop and play skateboard video games,
(20:38):
and it was it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Was just really cool and I was drawn by all the.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Different collecting different skateboard stickers that you could put on
your skateboard.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But I really didn't skate that much. I really sucked.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, it's really fucking hard. Skateboarding is really hard, right
because it requires ballot, it requires balance and like hand
eye coordination and hand hand eye foot coordination. It's really
really tough. We took the kids to a place here
locally called KTR it stands for Kids that Rip, and
(21:17):
got them skateboarding lessons. So for about eight months they
did skateboarding lessons and they would do the little you know, halfpipes,
and they would try and like grind these tiny little
rails that were covered with like pads all around. And
we bought them all the pads and the skateboards and
(21:37):
all this stuff, and they never once skated in the
real world outside of KTR.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But it's still bigger culture. Break your wrists, Like That's
why I'm so excited that they were all wearing pads
in this because I was like, you were going to
break your bones, yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Was totally into that.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
And there was like the like Towning Country, like those
logos with like the cartoon you know, gorilla on it
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I don't know, it's so foggy. I haven't thought about
it forever.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
But I also I was also like enamored by the
skateboarding video games, you know, and back then we didn't
yet have like Tony Hawk, so it was it was
like arcade games like seven to twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You know, Street old like that was awesome and a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
And I was into more of that kind of periphery
stuff because I secked at skateboarding.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, skateboarding is too hard. We do meet a character
who is the inventor of skating, who owns a skating
who's like skateboarding old man. He's like an old man
who's not at all fit. It doesn't look like he
(23:02):
could skate if you if his life depended on it. Now,
I mean, Tony Hawk is an old, older man at
this point who's built an empire. So this character should
have looked like Tony Hawk. He should have looked like
he can still grind a rail if he was hard
pressed to do so. He does not look that way.
But he is apparently the one who's going to sponsor
(23:24):
the winner of the downhill race the La Massacre, So
that's an important plot point.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
All Love Skateboards will sponsor the winner of this contest.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, and you'll be set for life if you get
sponsored by this skating.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Man because it's very lucrative.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Uh. So there's more skating montages, skating montages, skating montages.
Corey takes Chrissy out for ice cream.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And Josh Josh Brolin maybe Josh Brolin.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, and then they have their like romantic evening together.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
They go to They've got to really forced. They are
really forced.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yes, we got to really forced, like first Date montage
where there's there's you know, like the filmmakers said, oh,
just interact with like strangers and and find funny things
to do on the park benches, and you just really
get the sense like they are they're just struggling to
make a meal out of any of that, you know,
like just dancing around downtown, you know, like the Hollywood
(24:37):
Walk of Fame and and shops and and and people
and things like that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It's just kind of like you can see the forced
improv moments before they start rolling.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, it's a there's not a lot of chemistry between
our Romeo and Juliet in this, which is like how
do you not have chemistry with Thanos, come on, yeah,
using chemistry and this chick that they put up against
him is just like, I don't want to be with
(25:11):
the Daggers with you, and it's totally phony, boloney, you
feel the acting the whole time.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, she she Sherilyn Finn of Twin Peaks is also
in this movie. She's the like the Daggers Brunette and.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Helmut. Yeah, she would have made a much more interesting
leading lady. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
But as much as I love Josh Brolin, this is
definitely this baby Josh Brolin. He is still you can
see the charism, the charisma or the potential.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Charisma there, but it's not like he's a gleaming light
in this rough movie.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
He's still pretty sub dude and still rough and and
the camera doesn't necessarily always want to lock in on him,
like he's still finding his movie star powers at this point.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Like he's still he's still a baby actor trying to
find his sea legs, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, this whole movie is just a little bit wobbly. Yeah,
and in literal it's it's wobbly to us.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But God bless him, God bless him. It must have
been a lot of fun. To make.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, and there must have been a lot of skaters
used for all the skating montages. There's a really funny
chase scene where so after their night of chemistry list
love making, he takes Chrissy home and then the Daggers
are like, wait a minute, that's Corey, but get him
(26:57):
and they do a skate chase where the Daggers there's
always ten of them, and you see like three of
them fall and then you cut back and there's still
ten of them. There's not less of them. And then
you see three of them go off a cliff or
off the ledge of a parking garage, and you cut
back and there's still ten of them. There's never less
(27:19):
of them. They're falling off all over the place, but
they're never seeming to recede. There's always a new dagger
to come up and take their place. It was fascinating
to me. They chase them all through town and he
escapes them by hiding on top of a bus. Not
(27:40):
very safe, very akin to Tea, he was teen wolf
in it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I feel like I was getting coffee at this point.
Yea familiar. Yeah, I saw him post bus. Yeah, this
is one of the this is one of those kind
of movies.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That you could walk away from for a few minutes
and do something and come back and feel like, yeah, no,
I haven't missed anything.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I haven't missed anything. Well, the Daggers then torch the ramp.
Locals ramp. They torch the ramp, and we watched the
whole process of it burning. Like they're just like going
yeah whooo and just cheering it on as it as
it burns, and we have to watch the whole process.
(28:31):
It's not like they set it on fire and then
we cut to the end and its ashes. They just
stand there and cheer and throw bottles at it for
like five solid minutes. So that's when you should have
got coffee.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I think I also got coffee at this point.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You're having so much coffee.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, that's not so bad.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay, good because it's it's late in the day and
you need to be careful.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh I saw this at seven am. I saw it
this at seven am.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh well, what a delightful morning treat. So they're gonna
do a challenge of what they call the joust.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
This is nunchuck jousting. Yeah, so basically they have nunchucks,
which is one of the chucks is like a pad,
and so they're spinning it around and they skate at
each other, which one assumes this is what the kids.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
On the street actually do because they've done their research.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And then they skate at each other and then they
swing their nun chucks at each other mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And that's how they settle their differences in this world.
But there's something that happens right before this, so as
they're getting its.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Directly lifted from Romeo and Juliette.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
By the way, the joust skating with the nun chucks they.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Didn't have, but they didn't have skateboards in Romeo and
Juliet They just ran at each other with nunchucks with nunchucks.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
They had nunchucks though well.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
One was one is padded.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Mm hmmm. I don't feel like I saw that in
Baz Luhrman's take on Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh No, he had his own unique take on it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Mm hmm. Yeah. You think that would be something bas
Leerman would go.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
For, though I'm not gonna tell him what to do.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Okay. Uh So, Velvet who is Sherilyn Fenn cuts off
a lock of her hair and puts it in an
ear ring, which she gives to Tommy, and he wears
an earring of her hair.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Right, and Tommy is the fagtipe, by the.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Way, Tommy is the bad guy, and I just thought
that was so gross. I was like, this is just gusting.
You're wearing her hair as an earring.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You need to judge this culture, right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No, no, no, no, I'm judging it. Don't wear someone
else's hair in an earring. It feels unsanitary. But of
course neither one of them wins. They both get blows in.
Tommy rips out the hair earring, Corey gets knocked on
his ass. They both get blows in. It's a pretty
(31:31):
equal footing and then the cops come and bust it up.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Corey breaks his arm. Yeah, and he's like, now I
can't do the downhill race.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And this was really like the first time that there's
been any stakes to anything, you know, right.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Because again it's like, oh they get chased off, or
oh I don't want you to see my sister, and
the sister goes like, I'll do what I want. And
so him breaking his arm meaning that he can't skate,
is the first time and there were like an hour
into the movie.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
At this point, this is the first.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Time that there's been anything that has had any kind
of consequences, and you start to think about, like, oh, well, what, oh.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
What is he gonna do? He can't thrash anymore, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, Like and Chrissy's like, why can't you thrash? And
he's like, because my arm is broken, and she's like, okay,
but you have another arm. And he's like, well, I can't,
I can't thrash, and she's like, I truly don't see why.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
She really doesn't understand thrashing, but she supports that.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But the prize for winning the La Masker, the downhill race,
which glory that he can't compete in, is one.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Thousand dollars, which will set you up for and then
also mister skateboard will sponsor you.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yes, but one thousand dollars adjusted for inflation. What do
you think it's worth today in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hundred?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Uh? Not far off. It's four thousand and one hundred.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, so enough to live on for years, you know,
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You're good to go.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
So they talk about this La massacre, and so basically
it's a big race. You they they get at the
top of a hill and apparently they have access to
this whole stretch of street or road.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They shut down the whole of the das it's the
annual way.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah right, and we the funny thing is is that
we hear, you know, it's really just like a set
of like eighty people gathering around like a park area, but.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
We hear all these like news reporter voices like it's
an official, you know, like news event of the city.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
You know, I would have preferred that if it was
that they would have been a little more punk rock
and they were more pirate rado radioing this event that
we like it's a.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Gorilla event, like they're not literally cars on the street.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
But they chose like a voiceover who sounded like he
was doing like the midday news, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
And yeah, I would have it would have been fun
if this was a more of a an illegal like
street racing kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I mean, yeah, I mean, the the the the event is.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Totally looney, Like I can't imagine that there's any basis
in reality of having you know, having like eighty people
all just wind down like what like five six miles
of downhill racing. Like I would have rather that it
(35:11):
been more of a karate kids style competition, you know,
where you get to see all these different people in
all these different you know, like little brackets doing their best,
and you get to see real skateboarders and you get
to see more of the actual style. I guess maybe
(35:33):
it was hard. There is a certain like you know,
spectacle to a giant race and seeing like all these
skateboarders wiping out on the street. But yeah, no, I
would have really liked more of a oh this you know,
Oh this person is getting more points, Oh this guy
is up, Oh that guy is really good, and kind
(35:55):
of getting to see real skateboarders and having one one
or person one or more people kind of get eliminated.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And whittled down to where it was just a couple
of people, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, yeah, if you got a real sense of like
any you get that a little bit in the pool competition.
But yeah, it's painfully absent from the LA Massacre. But
we do get to see him practicing for the LA Massacre,
going down doing a downhill and just like completely falling
(36:26):
over and sort of blaming it on his arm, like oh,
I can't. I can't do it because of my broken arm.
And it's like, you really aren't using your arm that much, buddy, Yeah,
Like it's it's fine, You'll be fine. So Chrissy in
the meantime, has decided to go back to Illinois or Indiana,
(36:49):
Indiana on the bus and she's like on the bus
reading a magazine, and she gets halfway to Indiana when
she decides all of a sudden to hop off the bus.
Us lets her off in the middle of nowhere and
she hitch hikes home.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Which Indiana strangely looks like southern California.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, but she's like at least three hundred miles away,
yeah yeah, sign at some point yeah no, it.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Looked like so, I mean it must have been like
Arizona or New Mexico because it looked like it still
looked like southern California or Arizona. Yep.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
But she dangerously. I was so worried about her. It's like,
you know, my deep cut recommendation should be for her
to listen to my favorite murder and just learn why
young girls should not hitch hike. She's lucky she didn't
get murdered and they did show that it was mostly
like older women picking her up, which is why she
(37:53):
didn't get murdered. But if this movie took a turn
and suddenly became a true crime piece about why you
shouldn't hitchhike, I would have been happy. Yeah, all right,
but we do the downhill race, we do the La Massacre.
(38:13):
Of course Corey wins. Yeah, of course it comes down
to just Cory and Tommy, and I really wish I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Tommy is a dick, but I wish he would have
done one more dick move, one more big dick move
at the end, you know, like some sort of like
uh oh that that villain, you know, like some real
shenanigans at the last moment. You know, it's like, I
don't mind that this movie is kind of low temperature.
(38:42):
I just wish they would lean into some of the
the cause and effect and like the villainy a little more,
like if they would have done a bit more.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, well, they take all his villain power away because
at the end of the race, he's like they have
the Iceman Maverick moment where he's like a good race man,
high five the daggers in the ramp. Locals won't war anymore.
You know, you can date my sister, whish Why the
how the fuck did you get back here? Sister? What
(39:14):
are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I put you on a bus again.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I'm sure they wanted to do something different, but they
were just hampered by the original Romeo and Juliet you know, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
They had to do it the way they had to be.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, they had to be faithful to the original.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Oh boy, so that's thrashing, uh for all of them
fun we're making of it. It was okay, so it
was aggressively Okay, it was aggressively Okay, it was the
downhill race of Okay, there was there was there was.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Nothing to hate about the movie, but it was just
so it was just a but.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
There was nothing to catch onto. Yeah yeah, yeah, it
wasn't even like it wasn't even cheesy enough to be
so cheesy that it was great.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, which I'm hoping for for Breaking.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
I don't know if we'll cover in the uh yuh
on the podcast, but that's what I'm hoping for for
Breaking because it's.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
A cannon films.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, well, we'll have to do it. We have all
these movies we coudet threatening to do we've been threatening
to do Masters of the Universe for years, for like
three years. Yes, we'll get to them. We'll get to
them all. Baby, We're gonna get to them all. So
(40:42):
on a scale of one broken arm that will prevent
you from thrashing to ten broken arms, Okay, well, maybe
that's not the best metric because it's bad. Ten broken
arms is bad. What's good on the one ramp to
ten ramps or ten thrashing ramps? But thrashing and crashing
(41:06):
ten good thrashings.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
But thrashing is a positive.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Thrashing is a positive.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I feel like five is aggressively okay. I feel like
if we start dipping into four, then there's hatred in
my heart.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
You know, I don't know what I've given.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
I think the only ones I've given that lower Young Guns,
and which was a big disappointment because I had loved
young Guns when I was.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Younger, Me too, and Grace too.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah you hated Grace too.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Oh I I so curbed my real opinions because you
and our guest loved it, and I couldn't be that guy.
I didn't want to be the guy to shit on
your fun.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Oh well, you're such a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Until now. Yeah, so five five is aggressively okay.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Five is aggressively Okay, Okay, I'll bump it just a
smidge and I'll give it five point five because I did.
I found Baby Josh Brolin to be a charmer. Mmmmmm hmm.
And I was so excited to see little baby Thanos. Yes,
(42:30):
before he got all beefy and chunky and grizzled. Uh huh,
He's very much not grizzled in this movie.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
No, he is.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
He is.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
He is such a baby, is such a hairless baby.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He is smooth and all of the corners are round it.
There's nothing wrinkly or or weathered about him at all.
Oh all right, what about a deep cut recommendation? Mm?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
You know what, So I'm going to go. So, let's
say you were going for one of these kind of movies.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Which is like the Peak, you know, like the Look
at the Sport and oh my god, there's all these
crazy characters and oh we take it so seriously.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
But no, we're going to show you behind the scenes
of how yeah, so that in that kind of movie.
If you were looking for big, goofy fun like Midday
Sunday you know after lunch movie.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I feel like Thrashing is not going to do it
for you. And if you haven't seen it, I would
substitute over the Top, Over the.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Top, the arm wrestling movie.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, yeah, the the yeah, the Sylvester Stallone which he
was contractually tricked into doing movie, which is so absolutely ridiculous.
He plays it super seriously.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Should we do have it?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Have we not done over the Top?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
We have not done over the Top.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I have difficulty believing that I have to google it
the most excellent.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I promise you, I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
It's not that I don't trust you.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I know what it is, but I've never I've never
seen it.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Well, this is my recommendation to you.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Over the Top, over the Top. Well, let's let's do it.
We'll do it soon.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Okay, great, we'll.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Do it right after Dragnet and break In and Masters
of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Too much for the heavy hitters, right, it's balanced, right,
we can't. It's you know, I've been wanting to do
these schmaltzy b movie eighties eighty movies like these direct
to video movies for a while. I feel like another one,
which would be a lot of fun is Invasion USA
(45:03):
with Check Norris?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh you know that one we did do?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
No, we did not. We tried to. We've we've scheduled
it twice and then it became unavailable. We have not
done Invasion USA.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Uh, what was the Check Norris movie we did do?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
What was the Check Norris movie we did do?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
It was an Invasion USA.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I have to google it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
We definitely did a Chuck Norris movie.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Because I remember there he shoots a a Zuka right
at someone who's shooting a bazuka right at him.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Well, yeah, that's Invasion USA.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Well, then we did it.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I don't know. I don't feel like we did.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Okay, let's we did. We definitely did a Chuck nor
We did a Chuck Norris movie. And it was from
the obviously it was from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Okay, how do we search our own catalog?
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Go to True Story FM. They have it all there. Okay, Oh,
Delta Force.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
We did Delta Force. Okay, yes, all right?
Speaker 4 (46:12):
And then.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Okay we did Overboard, which is different than over the Top.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, so Invasion USA and over the Top.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Movies that will be coming soon to the most excellent
eighties movies, podcasts.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Maybe we don't have this whole conversation in there, but yeah,
you know, we've done It's like, you know, what'd be
fun as if we did Young Chair like homes.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Well, we've done.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
We've done that. We've done Young.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
We're now around. We've got to revisit.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
So we've got to revisit them. Yeah, we've got to
give it another go. We're in a different place now,
Well they'll hit differently. We'll just go back through the one.
We'll start at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, just in case people haven't heard those ones.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, okay, So my deep cut recommendation is a movie
I was thinking about the whole time I was watching
Thrashing as a send up of exactly this type of
movie where there's like some big competition at some point,
and like there's the good guys, that the bad guys,
(47:21):
and that all the eighties tropes get really nailed in
a humorous way. I recommend Wet Hot American Summer. Oh.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I thought you're gonna say, hot Rod.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
What's hot rod? What?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
What's hot rod?
Speaker 1 (47:40):
What's hot Rod?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
It's with Andy Samberg?
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Oh, hot Rod? I thought you were talking about an
eighties movie called hot Rod. Yeah no, no, yeah, no,
that would be a good recommendation too, But no, I
was thinking about Wet Hot American Summer when Joelo Trulio
is chasing Ken Marino in there and the boy scouts
are all like on the lake and they're just like, ah,
(48:07):
they're all stuck just in the middle of the lake,
and he's chasing him on a motorcycle and he like
runs and then he's like foot versus motorcycle chase, and
he like leaps over a single bail of hay and
then Joela Trulia can't keep chasing him. I was thinking
about that part. I don't know why, but that's when
(48:30):
deep cut recommendation. One of my favorites Wet Hat American
Summer from the The Cast of the State. It's one
of the funniest movies of all time. It takes place
on the last day of camp in an eighty style
summer camp, and if you haven't seen it, I highly
(48:51):
recommend it. Yay, all right, well, thanks for being with
us here at the end. Appreciate you so much. We
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(49:12):
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Speaker 2 (50:29):
Hello Squishy studios dot com.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
If you want to check out my movies and things
I've done and my movie the last movie ever made
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Yeah, so go see it. And you can see Me
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(51:01):
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Eighties Movies Podcast. It's the podcast. We're a filmmaker and
a comedian skate their way through the eighties movies we
think we love or might have missed with these our
modern eyes. And today we're talking about Thrashing, a movie
selection from nineteen eighty six, about which the Google overview says,
(00:53):
Corey played by Josh Brolin, and his band of skater
buddies sometimes make mischief, but they're more interested in girls
and having fun on their boards than getting into any
real trouble. Notorious enemy crew the Daggers, led by Tommy
Hook played by Robert Rustler, get their kicks terrorizing the
(01:17):
locals at Venice Beach. When Corey starts dating Tommy's kid's sister,
the Daggers are furious. The boys then take their beef
to the La Massacre, a deadly skate race down a
canyon road. All right, here comes the trailer.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Wherever you do, do it for us.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's a harbor great commercial.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well look at that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Here's a brisket commercial.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You've got to keep that in.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Corey Webster is taking off for l a l. He
lives to thrash, he loves to compete.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But the competition is a killer. You're gonna be the
most beautiful girl to clothe.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
The music and the bangle and emotion, devout glow, the
red hot chili.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Pepper thrashing.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
You, what do you got you?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I could be held like that?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, eight, Is it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Just a games maybe the Big BA.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's just a game, right, valley boy.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
You're like game, right, valley boy.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you'll Roman, Please don't go. You went down He'll
race Russian. It's not a kids game anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Uphill romance to a downhill race. It's possibly the most
clever line that's ever been inted upon in a trailer.
I'm Chrissy Lynz, one of the directors at the Neighborhood
Comedy Theater in downtown nest Arizona, and with me as always.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Is independent filmmaker Nathan Blackwell. Yeah, I feel like we've
finally got the introduction right.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Years.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, the key.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
By the second decade, we'll have really cracked this code.
We'll have figured it out for sure. Thrash. I have
never seen this movie. I've never heard of this movie.
Oh come on, no, really have you You've seen it,
(05:12):
you loved it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I have never seen this movie.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
No.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
When you I mean, when you've got an eighties movies
podcast and you're trying to figure out what to see,
you do look at some lists and consider.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like, what are the most eighties eighties movies? These are movies, So.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
This one is super eighties exactly, and and so it
was kind of on my short list for a while,
but there was never like a real desire to see it,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But the bar is apparently very low in season eight.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well, we've been doing bangers this whole season.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'm joking. I'm joking, Okay, I you know, I guess
it's we've been I've been wanting to get to tackle
some of these these movies that could only be made
in the eighties, that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Whether music or the fashion or the style, or just
the kind of movies that they stop making in the nineties,
like something that could only happen in the eighties and
thrashing for better or for worse is one of those.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Movies Thrash and Baby. Yeah. Uh, it stars a baby
Josh Brolin.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right off of Goonies, like right off of the set
of Goonies.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
And he just has Thanos has a tiny baby face
in this and he's so cute and he never wears
a shirt.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yeah, it's it's a it's a low budget, fun, fun
quotation marks, you know, skateboarding movie. But where this where
thrashing really falls into is in the eighties, there were
a lot of these Oh here's a secret look at
(07:07):
a counterculture.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Sport or or like some community and we're gonna blow
your mind with it. So think like blood Sport or
over the Top.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Honestly, I feel like like Karate Kid is the king
of that mountain, you know, Okay, because it really I
mean I remember being in the eighties and karate just
karate was a huge fad, and it was even before
the Karate Kid, but it was like another like little pocket,
(07:41):
secret society or or or sport. You know, it was
like something that people were really into, but it was
its own little world, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So you look at some of these movies like Red
or again like Blood Sports, leaving the Clube. Yeah, yeah,
but but yeah, it's kind of like.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
It's not made for the audience that's into it, you know,
because a lot of these movies are just pretty damn schlocky,
like you know, I'm sure, yeah, and it really, it
really makes it's a very authentic take on skateboarding culture.
(08:27):
They really make it look like gangs and they make
you know, they you know, they make like weird events and.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Like they're not into what actual skateboarders are into, you know,
which is doing the right petitions.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And you know, because that would just be a documentary,
you have to have the uphill romance and the downhill race, right.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Instead, it's always kind of like, oh, these punk counterculture people.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
They don't listen, they don't want any part of the rules.
They want to live on the outside. They're all kind
of punk rockers, you know, making their own rules. And
then there's all these.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Different weird, weirdo characters.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
There's the.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know, there's like the the gonzo character who's always
kind of supposed to be the comedic relief, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yeah, and they've always got some kind of right there's
like never adults, and they've always got.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Some sort of pad or home base with graffiti on it.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, but it's always no adults anywhere, and you really
wonder how old they're supposed to be, Like are they
supposed to be in high school? Or are they and
it's the summer, or are they supposed to be like
young adults.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, all these all these movies, especially these sports movies,
you know, like these punk sports movies are all made
by people who really don't know anything about the sport.
You know, they don't know anything about the subject, so
they're trying to make it as crazy and ridicul listen,
over the top and I catching and dramatic and cinematic
(10:04):
as possible, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So there's just a lot of silly silliness in these movies.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, which is.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Which is honestly, like it's it's the fun of it.
The fun is just how grossly inaccurate. Like like the
other movie that kind of and I haven't seen it,
but I've seen the trailers is stuff like Breakin', you know,
where they're the secret world of breakdancing and it's like
where they of course they've got to have like you know,
(10:31):
it's like that's not really breakdancing. And all these like
weird competitions and things that you would never see in
like the legitimate.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Sport of skateboarding.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Dance, yeah, or breakdancing or I'm sure there's like at
least a dozen of these kinds of movies that you
could name, but I feel like Karate Kid.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Was the one that did it well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, Karate Kids sort of of one the challenge because
it's a good movie on top of being about you know,
this weird little like microculture. This I would not call
a good movie. Let's not say it's not to say
(11:20):
it wasn't a good time, right, but it's not a
good movie.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
If we're applying the definition of movie to this movie,
then yes, that is absolutely correct. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So it starts with a dream. Oh it's a dream,
a dream of a skate skaters all flying all over
the place, blurry skaters just flying through the air and
it seems like they're falling and we don't quite know
what's up, but it's all a dream. So Corey Webster
wakes up and he gets ready in an eighties get
(12:00):
Ready montage, which I love in eighties get Ready montage.
That was one of my favorite moments in Dream, A
little dream where they're getting ready and they're putting all
the moose in their hair and they're tearing their jeans
and stuff. We don't know where he is or where
he's going, but he basically rides his skateboard and thrashes
(12:23):
and hitchhikes hit his way to la I guess we
find out from whence?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We don't know the valley. Apparently, no, he went to
the valley.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh jeez, he's not from the valley.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I may be accused of not having thoroughly watched this
movie with my full attention.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Very well, well, let me explain it to you. He
goes and meets up with his little group of friends
who are gonna be a little gang for the summer,
and they built a ramp, so they all get ready
to try out the ramp. And what's good is that
they're all wearing knee pads and elbow pads, yes, and
(13:05):
they're taking their wrist health responsibly, so that's very good.
They're skating responsibly, and we see them like suiting up
and strapping on their pads, which is very good. We
get a ramp montage and then ramp montage going up
(13:26):
the ramp, going down the ramp, ramp montage. It's a
delightful ramp montage. It's really fun to watch them skate.
You know, like we said with the Flash Dance podcast,
the fun parts were watching them dance. Well, in this one,
(13:47):
I think the fun parts are watching them skate. Yeah,
it's not the movie in between, it's the montages.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
So the thing about this movie is that it is
a very loose, super loose Romeo and Juliette story. So
early on we are introduced to the evil gang, the
Daggers hook in.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
The Daggers Hook and the Daggers they come up over
the hill, they crest the hill.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
They're they're all, yeah, they're all.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
They're all wearing like blue jeans and they've got like
these like rocker spikes and and earrings. So this movie
posits that skaters are like gangs, and so there's a
good gang and then there's.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
A bad gang, and well, you know, it reminded me
a lot of the movie Point Break, which is is
not it should have been my deep cut recommendation, but
it's not. Because they have all these rules about where
you can surf and where you can't surf. If you're
a local or if you're from a different part of
(15:01):
the beach. So it reminded me of that. I felt
like at home with the Oh you're not a local. Oh,
we are a local. We're the ramp locals. Well we're
the daggers. We skate at Venis Beach, so you can't
skate at Venice Beach. So exactly it made sense to me.
Good good, And they don't like the ramp locals because
(15:24):
they're from the valley. I've kind of.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Cat who was just trying to push my microphone right
off the table.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Oh no, don't do that, kiddy. He loved rash and
he's really mad that we're not taking it seriously.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
So yeah, so they And when I.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Say a loose adaptation of Romeo and Juliet, I mean,
I don't need like a beat by Beat.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I don't need like their parents and a ghost or
anything like that.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
But what I do need, which this movie doesn't really have,
is like any real tangible consequences.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
That he's dating the daughter of his enemy, like.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
The yeah, because honestly, like the if, that if, if,
the if, the not the daughter, jeez, the sister.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
The sister.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, though he is constantly like draping his arm around.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Her from the moment they meet. From the moment they meet,
he's draping his arm around her.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
He is super affectionate with his sister.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh right, the brother and sister. I thought you meant
Corey and the sister. But everyone's always got their arms
around her, like she just can't have a shoulder to herself.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Yes, but if she didn't exist, he would have still
done all the dicky moves that he ended up doing,
you know, the kind of hazing and challenging and things
like that. I was really hoping that there, that the
steaks would have been higher because of the love affair.
(17:09):
But they treat it very casually. They treat it very
low temperature.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yes, and it's uh.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Not.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
It's almost a romance between the Corey and the Tommy
Hook more than it is a romance between Corey and Chrissy.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I don't love that her name was Chrissy.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
By the way, there's there there.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I mean it doesn't really.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's really kind of a a Maverick and Iceman light right,
much more what it was like very light because it's like,
you know, ooh, spoilers for Thrashing.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It's not really until the end moment.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That they they kind of reached in a chord yeah,
identical to Top Gun. But they do go to a
party where the Red Hot Chili Peppers are playing.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Which is totally nuts, Like this movie is is bargain basement.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
And then they bring out the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who,
of course were probably not a huge deal at the time.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
One hopes Nope, You're like watching them thrash around and
you're just like, okay, so the Red Hot Chili Pillow
Peppers have always been like that.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Then all right, uh huh yeah, and it's and it's
a lot of fun because they are babies also.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yes, So there's several competitions throughout this movie. The first
one is a pool competition where they go skate a pool.
I read that somewhere in there is Tony Hawk. So
if you can spot the Tony Hawks, yes you win.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah. So so this this this pool.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
So the pool competition is that the waters obviously removed
from the pool, but this was one of those like
legendaries skating spots that had been closed and was open
just for the movie, and it was a big big
deal to the real skaters, and so they skated their
hearts out for all those days being in the movie,
(19:16):
and when they were in the movie, they just made
the most out of it, and they said that was
the best thing about Thresh and.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Was being able to use that spot. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Yeah, yeah, this is a good opportunity to talk about skateboarding,
because skateboarding.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
In the eighties, this was like a big deal.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
This was like, at least for me, Like I remember,
this was like the cool thing, Like this was the
cool big thing that you know, me as like a
thirteen year old or or whatever like that was.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That was one of those things that I perceived as
being super cool that I could.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Never really do, but I really wanted to do, so
it was I oh yeah, yeah, So skateboarding back back
in the eighties was a big deal, just like huffy bikes.
But uh, I was definitely one of those kids who
(20:17):
really wanted to kind of hook into that coolness, but
I really didn't like actually skating, like you know, So
I would get magazines and I would bug my parents
to get a skateboard for my birthday and wanted wanted
to go to the skateboard shop and play skateboard video games,
(20:38):
and it was it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Was just really cool and I was drawn by all the.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Different collecting different skateboard stickers that you could put on
your skateboard.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But I really didn't skate that much. I really sucked.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, it's really fucking hard. Skateboarding is really hard, right
because it requires ballot, it requires balance and like hand
eye coordination and hand hand eye foot coordination. It's really
really tough. We took the kids to a place here
locally called KTR it stands for Kids that Rip, and
(21:17):
got them skateboarding lessons. So for about eight months they
did skateboarding lessons and they would do the little you know, halfpipes,
and they would try and like grind these tiny little
rails that were covered with like pads all around. And
we bought them all the pads and the skateboards and
(21:37):
all this stuff, and they never once skated in the
real world outside of KTR.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
But it's still bigger culture. Break your wrists, Like That's
why I'm so excited that they were all wearing pads
in this because I was like, you were going to
break your bones, yeah, but I.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Was totally into that.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
And there was like the like Towning Country, like those
logos with like the cartoon you know, gorilla on it
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I don't know, it's so foggy. I haven't thought about
it forever.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
But I also I was also like enamored by the
skateboarding video games, you know, and back then we didn't
yet have like Tony Hawk, so it was it was
like arcade games like seven to twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
You know, Street old like that was awesome and a
big deal.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
And I was into more of that kind of periphery
stuff because I secked at skateboarding.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, skateboarding is too hard. We do meet a character
who is the inventor of skating, who owns a skating
who's like skateboarding old man. He's like an old man
who's not at all fit. It doesn't look like he
(23:02):
could skate if you if his life depended on it. Now,
I mean, Tony Hawk is an old, older man at
this point who's built an empire. So this character should
have looked like Tony Hawk. He should have looked like
he can still grind a rail if he was hard
pressed to do so. He does not look that way.
But he is apparently the one who's going to sponsor
(23:24):
the winner of the downhill race the La Massacre, So
that's an important plot point.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
All Love Skateboards will sponsor the winner of this contest.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, and you'll be set for life if you get
sponsored by this skating.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Man because it's very lucrative.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Uh. So there's more skating montages, skating montages, skating montages.
Corey takes Chrissy out for ice cream.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And Josh Josh Brolin maybe Josh Brolin.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, and then they have their like romantic evening together.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
They go to They've got to really forced. They are
really forced.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yes, we got to really forced, like first Date montage
where there's there's you know, like the filmmakers said, oh,
just interact with like strangers and and find funny things
to do on the park benches, and you just really
get the sense like they are they're just struggling to
make a meal out of any of that, you know,
like just dancing around downtown, you know, like the Hollywood
(24:37):
Walk of Fame and and shops and and and people
and things like that.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
It's just kind of like you can see the forced
improv moments before they start rolling.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, it's a there's not a lot of chemistry between
our Romeo and Juliet in this, which is like how
do you not have chemistry with Thanos, come on, yeah,
using chemistry and this chick that they put up against
him is just like, I don't want to be with
(25:11):
the Daggers with you, and it's totally phony, boloney, you
feel the acting the whole time.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yeah, she she Sherilyn Finn of Twin Peaks is also
in this movie. She's the like the Daggers Brunette and.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Helmut. Yeah, she would have made a much more interesting
leading lady. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
But as much as I love Josh Brolin, this is
definitely this baby Josh Brolin. He is still you can
see the charism, the charisma or the potential.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Charisma there, but it's not like he's a gleaming light
in this rough movie.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
He's still pretty sub dude and still rough and and
the camera doesn't necessarily always want to lock in on him,
like he's still finding his movie star powers at this point.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Like he's still he's still a baby actor trying to
find his sea legs, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, this whole movie is just a little bit wobbly. Yeah,
and in literal it's it's wobbly to us.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But God bless him, God bless him. It must have
been a lot of fun. To make.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, and there must have been a lot of skaters
used for all the skating montages. There's a really funny
chase scene where so after their night of chemistry list
love making, he takes Chrissy home and then the Daggers
are like, wait a minute, that's Corey, but get him
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and they do a skate chase where the Daggers there's
always ten of them, and you see like three of
them fall and then you cut back and there's still
ten of them. There's not less of them. And then
you see three of them go off a cliff or
off the ledge of a parking garage, and you cut
back and there's still ten of them. There's never less
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of them. They're falling off all over the place, but
they're never seeming to recede. There's always a new dagger
to come up and take their place. It was fascinating
to me. They chase them all through town and he
escapes them by hiding on top of a bus. Not
(27:40):
very safe, very akin to Tea, he was teen wolf
in it.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I feel like I was getting coffee at this point.
Yea familiar. Yeah, I saw him post bus. Yeah, this
is one of the this is one of those kind
of movies.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
That you could walk away from for a few minutes
and do something and come back and feel like, yeah, no,
I haven't missed anything.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I haven't missed anything. Well, the Daggers then torch the ramp.
Locals ramp. They torch the ramp, and we watched the
whole process of it burning. Like they're just like going
yeah whooo and just cheering it on as it as
it burns, and we have to watch the whole process.
(28:31):
It's not like they set it on fire and then
we cut to the end and its ashes. They just
stand there and cheer and throw bottles at it for
like five solid minutes. So that's when you should have
got coffee.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I think I also got coffee at this point.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
You're having so much coffee.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, that's not so bad.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay, good because it's it's late in the day and
you need to be careful.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh I saw this at seven am. I saw it
this at seven am.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh well, what a delightful morning treat. So they're gonna
do a challenge of what they call the joust.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
This is nunchuck jousting. Yeah, so basically they have nunchucks,
which is one of the chucks is like a pad,
and so they're spinning it around and they skate at
each other, which one assumes this is what the kids.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
On the street actually do because they've done their research.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
And then they skate at each other and then they
swing their nun chucks at each other mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And that's how they settle their differences in this world.
But there's something that happens right before this, so as
they're getting its.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Directly lifted from Romeo and Juliette.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
By the way, the joust skating with the nun chucks they.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Didn't have, but they didn't have skateboards in Romeo and
Juliet They just ran at each other with nunchucks with nunchucks.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
They had nunchucks though well.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
One was one is padded.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Mm hmmm. I don't feel like I saw that in
Baz Luhrman's take on Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Oh No, he had his own unique take on it.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Mm hmm. Yeah. You think that would be something bas
Leerman would go.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
For, though I'm not gonna tell him what to do.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Okay. Uh So, Velvet who is Sherilyn Fenn cuts off
a lock of her hair and puts it in an
ear ring, which she gives to Tommy, and he wears
an earring of her hair.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Right, and Tommy is the fagtipe, by the.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Way, Tommy is the bad guy, and I just thought
that was so gross. I was like, this is just gusting.
You're wearing her hair as an earring.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You need to judge this culture, right.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No, no, no, no, I'm judging it. Don't wear someone
else's hair in an earring. It feels unsanitary. But of
course neither one of them wins. They both get blows in.
Tommy rips out the hair earring, Corey gets knocked on
his ass. They both get blows in. It's a pretty
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equal footing and then the cops come and bust it up.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Corey breaks his arm. Yeah, and he's like, now I
can't do the downhill race.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
And this was really like the first time that there's
been any stakes to anything, you know, right.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Because again it's like, oh they get chased off, or
oh I don't want you to see my sister, and
the sister goes like, I'll do what I want. And
so him breaking his arm meaning that he can't skate,
is the first time and there were like an hour
into the movie.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
At this point, this is the first.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Time that there's been anything that has had any kind
of consequences, and you start to think about, like, oh, well, what, oh.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
What is he gonna do? He can't thrash anymore, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, Like and Chrissy's like, why can't you thrash? And
he's like, because my arm is broken, and she's like, okay,
but you have another arm. And he's like, well, I can't,
I can't thrash, and she's like, I truly don't see why.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
She really doesn't understand thrashing, but she supports that.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But the prize for winning the La Masker, the downhill race,
which glory that he can't compete in, is one.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Thousand dollars, which will set you up for and then
also mister skateboard will sponsor you.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yes, but one thousand dollars adjusted for inflation. What do
you think it's worth today in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Hundred?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Uh? Not far off. It's four thousand and one hundred.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Okay, so enough to live on for years, you know,
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You're good to go.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
So they talk about this La massacre, and so basically
it's a big race. You they they get at the
top of a hill and apparently they have access to
this whole stretch of street or road.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They shut down the whole of the das it's the
annual way.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah right, and we the funny thing is is that
we hear, you know, it's really just like a set
of like eighty people gathering around like a park area, but.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
We hear all these like news reporter voices like it's
an official, you know, like news event of the city.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
You know, I would have preferred that if it was
that they would have been a little more punk rock
and they were more pirate rado radioing this event that
we like it's a.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Gorilla event, like they're not literally cars on the street.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
But they chose like a voiceover who sounded like he
was doing like the midday news, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
And yeah, I would have it would have been fun
if this was a more of a an illegal like
street racing kind of thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
That.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I mean, yeah, I mean, the the the the event is.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Totally looney, Like I can't imagine that there's any basis
in reality of having you know, having like eighty people
all just wind down like what like five six miles
of downhill racing. Like I would have rather that it
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been more of a karate kids style competition, you know,
where you get to see all these different people in
all these different you know, like little brackets doing their best,
and you get to see real skateboarders and you get
to see more of the actual style. I guess maybe
(35:33):
it was hard. There is a certain like you know,
spectacle to a giant race and seeing like all these
skateboarders wiping out on the street. But yeah, no, I
would have really liked more of a oh this you know,
Oh this person is getting more points, Oh this guy
is up, Oh that guy is really good, and kind
(35:55):
of getting to see real skateboarders and having one one
or person one or more people kind of get eliminated.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
And whittled down to where it was just a couple
of people, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, yeah, if you got a real sense of like
any you get that a little bit in the pool competition.
But yeah, it's painfully absent from the LA Massacre. But
we do get to see him practicing for the LA Massacre,
going down doing a downhill and just like completely falling
(36:26):
over and sort of blaming it on his arm, like oh,
I can't. I can't do it because of my broken arm.
And it's like, you really aren't using your arm that much, buddy, Yeah,
Like it's it's fine, You'll be fine. So Chrissy in
the meantime, has decided to go back to Illinois or Indiana,
(36:49):
Indiana on the bus and she's like on the bus
reading a magazine, and she gets halfway to Indiana when
she decides all of a sudden to hop off the bus.
Us lets her off in the middle of nowhere and
she hitch hikes home.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Which Indiana strangely looks like southern California.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, but she's like at least three hundred miles away,
yeah yeah, sign at some point yeah no, it.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Looked like so, I mean it must have been like
Arizona or New Mexico because it looked like it still
looked like southern California or Arizona. Yep.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
But she dangerously. I was so worried about her. It's like,
you know, my deep cut recommendation should be for her
to listen to my favorite murder and just learn why
young girls should not hitch hike. She's lucky she didn't
get murdered and they did show that it was mostly
like older women picking her up, which is why she
(37:53):
didn't get murdered. But if this movie took a turn
and suddenly became a true crime piece about why you
shouldn't hitchhike, I would have been happy. Yeah, all right,
but we do the downhill race, we do the La Massacre.
(38:13):
Of course Corey wins. Yeah, of course it comes down
to just Cory and Tommy, and I really wish I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Tommy is a dick, but I wish he would have
done one more dick move, one more big dick move
at the end, you know, like some sort of like
uh oh that that villain, you know, like some real
shenanigans at the last moment. You know, it's like, I
don't mind that this movie is kind of low temperature.
(38:42):
I just wish they would lean into some of the
the cause and effect and like the villainy a little more,
like if they would have done a bit more.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, well, they take all his villain power away because
at the end of the race, he's like they have
the Iceman Maverick moment where he's like a good race man,
high five the daggers in the ramp. Locals won't war anymore.
You know, you can date my sister, whish Why the
how the fuck did you get back here? Sister? What
(39:14):
are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I put you on a bus again.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I'm sure they wanted to do something different, but they
were just hampered by the original Romeo and Juliet you know, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
They had to do it the way they had to be.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, they had to be faithful to the original.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Oh boy, so that's thrashing, uh for all of them
fun we're making of it. It was okay, so it
was aggressively Okay, it was aggressively Okay, it was the
downhill race of Okay, there was there was there was.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Nothing to hate about the movie, but it was just
so it was just a but.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
There was nothing to catch onto. Yeah yeah, yeah, it
wasn't even like it wasn't even cheesy enough to be
so cheesy that it was great.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, which I'm hoping for for Breaking.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
I don't know if we'll cover in the uh yuh
on the podcast, but that's what I'm hoping for for
Breaking because it's.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
A cannon films.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, well, we'll have to do it. We have all
these movies we coudet threatening to do we've been threatening
to do Masters of the Universe for years, for like
three years. Yes, we'll get to them. We'll get to
them all. Baby, We're gonna get to them all. So
(40:42):
on a scale of one broken arm that will prevent
you from thrashing to ten broken arms, Okay, well, maybe
that's not the best metric because it's bad. Ten broken
arms is bad. What's good on the one ramp to
ten ramps or ten thrashing ramps? But thrashing and crashing
(41:06):
ten good thrashings.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
But thrashing is a positive.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Thrashing is a positive.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
I feel like five is aggressively okay. I feel like
if we start dipping into four, then there's hatred in
my heart.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
You know, I don't know what I've given.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
I think the only ones I've given that lower Young Guns,
and which was a big disappointment because I had loved
young Guns when I was.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Younger, Me too, and Grace too.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah you hated Grace too.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Oh I I so curbed my real opinions because you
and our guest loved it, and I couldn't be that guy.
I didn't want to be the guy to shit on
your fun.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Oh well, you're such a gentleman.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Until now. Yeah, so five five is aggressively okay.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Five is aggressively Okay, Okay, I'll bump it just a
smidge and I'll give it five point five because I did.
I found Baby Josh Brolin to be a charmer. Mmmmmm hmm.
And I was so excited to see little baby Thanos. Yes,
(42:30):
before he got all beefy and chunky and grizzled. Uh huh,
He's very much not grizzled in this movie.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
No, he is.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
He is.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
He is such a baby, is such a hairless baby.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
He is smooth and all of the corners are round it.
There's nothing wrinkly or or weathered about him at all.
Oh all right, what about a deep cut recommendation? Mm?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
You know what, So I'm going to go. So, let's
say you were going for one of these kind of movies.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Which is like the Peak, you know, like the Look
at the Sport and oh my god, there's all these
crazy characters and oh we take it so seriously.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
But no, we're going to show you behind the scenes
of how yeah, so that in that kind of movie.
If you were looking for big, goofy fun like Midday
Sunday you know after lunch movie.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Mm hm.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
I feel like Thrashing is not going to do it
for you. And if you haven't seen it, I would
substitute over the Top, Over the.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Top, the arm wrestling movie.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, yeah, the the yeah, the Sylvester Stallone which he
was contractually tricked into doing movie, which is so absolutely ridiculous.
He plays it super seriously.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Should we do have it?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Have we not done over the Top?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
We have not done over the Top.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I have difficulty believing that I have to google it
the most excellent.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I promise you, I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
It's not that I don't trust you.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I know what it is, but I've never I've never
seen it.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Well, this is my recommendation to you.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Over the Top, over the Top. Well, let's let's do it.
We'll do it soon.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Okay, great, we'll.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Do it right after Dragnet and break In and Masters
of the Universe.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
Too much for the heavy hitters, right, it's balanced, right,
we can't. It's you know, I've been wanting to do
these schmaltzy b movie eighties eighty movies like these direct
to video movies for a while. I feel like another one,
which would be a lot of fun is Invasion USA
(45:03):
with Check Norris?
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh you know that one we did do?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
No, we did not. We tried to. We've we've scheduled
it twice and then it became unavailable. We have not
done Invasion USA.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
Uh, what was the Check Norris movie we did do?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
What was the Check Norris movie we did do?
Speaker 1 (45:21):
It was an Invasion USA.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I have to google it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
We definitely did a Chuck Norris movie.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Because I remember there he shoots a a Zuka right
at someone who's shooting a bazuka right at him.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Well, yeah, that's Invasion USA.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Well, then we did it.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I don't know. I don't feel like we did.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Okay, let's we did. We definitely did a Chuck nor
We did a Chuck Norris movie. And it was from
the obviously it was from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Okay, how do we search our own catalog?
Speaker 4 (46:00):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Go to True Story FM. They have it all there. Okay, Oh,
Delta Force.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
We did Delta Force. Okay, yes, all right?
Speaker 4 (46:12):
And then.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Okay we did Overboard, which is different than over the Top.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, so Invasion USA and over the Top.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Movies that will be coming soon to the most excellent
eighties movies, podcasts.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Maybe we don't have this whole conversation in there, but yeah,
you know, we've done It's like, you know, what'd be
fun as if we did Young Chair like homes.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Well, we've done.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
We've done that. We've done Young.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
We're now around. We've got to revisit.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
So we've got to revisit them. Yeah, we've got to
give it another go. We're in a different place now,
Well they'll hit differently. We'll just go back through the one.
We'll start at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Yeah, just in case people haven't heard those ones.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, okay, So my deep cut recommendation is a movie
I was thinking about the whole time I was watching
Thrashing as a send up of exactly this type of
movie where there's like some big competition at some point,
and like there's the good guys, that the bad guys,
(47:21):
and that all the eighties tropes get really nailed in
a humorous way. I recommend Wet Hot American Summer. Oh.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
I thought you're gonna say, hot Rod.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
What's hot rod? What?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
What's hot rod?
Speaker 1 (47:40):
What's hot Rod?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
It's with Andy Samberg?
Speaker 1 (47:46):
Oh, hot Rod? I thought you were talking about an
eighties movie called hot Rod. Yeah no, no, yeah, no,
that would be a good recommendation too, But no, I
was thinking about Wet Hot American Summer when Joelo Trulio
is chasing Ken Marino in there and the boy scouts
are all like on the lake and they're just like, ah,
(48:07):
they're all stuck just in the middle of the lake,
and he's chasing him on a motorcycle and he like
runs and then he's like foot versus motorcycle chase, and
he like leaps over a single bail of hay and
then Joela Trulia can't keep chasing him. I was thinking
about that part. I don't know why, but that's when
(48:30):
deep cut recommendation. One of my favorites Wet Hat American
Summer from the The Cast of the State. It's one
of the funniest movies of all time. It takes place
on the last day of camp in an eighty style
summer camp, and if you haven't seen it, I highly
(48:51):
recommend it. Yay, all right, well, thanks for being with
us here at the end. Appreciate you so much. We
love you and we are grateful for you. If you
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(49:12):
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(50:21):
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you in your filmmaking endeavors?
Speaker 2 (50:29):
Hello Squishy studios dot com.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
If you want to check out my movies and things
I've done and my movie the last movie ever made
is on Amazon, Apple, and twob.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
Yeah, so go see it. And you can see Me
at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater in downtown Mice, Arizona on
Friday and Saturday nights. Get tickets and dates and deeds
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the world doing your thing and thrashing like you do,
(51:01):
please keep the most excellent eighties movies motto in mind.
Be excellent to each other and party yard dudes.
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