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May 22, 2025 15 mins

In a special series dedicated to the Australian Clinical Entrepreneur Program (AUSCEP) we introduce you to some of the passionate health professionals taking part in this 12-month program to develop their innovative ideas into products and enterprises. 

Elleesha King is a registered nurse and ambulance paramedic, and founder of Pulsatile Innovations, a start-up developing a medical device called Pulse Tile™ to reduce delays to CPR and defibrillation. She takes us on the journey of turning her idea into reality and explains how taking part in AUSCEP and meeting like-minded entrepreneurs has paid off in spades.  www.thepulsetile.com

The program’s third cohort has been delivered in NSW and Victoria, in partnership with MTPConnect and Australian Society for Medical Entrepreneurship and Innovation (ASME), and supported by LaunchVic and NSW Agency for Clinical Innovation (ACI). The next 2025/26 cohort is open for Victorian applications until 20 June 2025 – apply at auscep.au 

This episode is hosted by MTPConnect’s Caroline Duell and Elizabeth Stares.

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Natalie Vella (00:01):
This is the MTP Connect podcast, connecting you
with the people behind thelife-saving innovations driving
Australia's growing lifesciences sector from bench to
bedside for better health andwell-being.
Mtp Connect acknowledges thetraditional owners of country
that this podcast is recorded onand recognises that Aboriginal

(00:23):
and Torres Strait Islanderpeoples are Australia's first
storytellers and the holders offirst science knowledge.

Caroline Duell (00:33):
Hello and welcome to the MTP Connect
podcast.
I'm Caroline Jewell.
Do you have a dream totranslate your healthcare ideas
into real world solutions?
Join us as we meet some of thepassionate health professionals
doing just that and taking partin the Australian Clinical
healthcare ideas into real-worldsolutions.
Join us as we meet some of thepassionate health professionals
doing just that and taking partin the Australian Clinical
Entrepreneur Program.
This 12-month innovationprogram is led by MTP Connect

(00:55):
and the Australian Society forMedical Entrepreneurship and
Innovation, with support fromLaunchvic and New South Wales
Health, and it's making adifference from bench to bedside
.
My co-host is MTP Connect'sElizabeth Stairs, who is the
Innovation and Translation Leadfor the OZSEP program.

Elleesha King (01:16):
My name is Alicia King.
I'm currently working on mystartup, pulsatile Innovations,
where we're developing a medicaldevice to reduce delays to CPR
and defibrillation.
But outside of that and in mypaid work, I'm working as an
ambulance paramedic and aregistered nurse.
I currently have a team of 42staff, so I keep myself very
busy in both the startup worldand in my career as well.

Caroline Duell (01:40):
That's a day job , and a night job is that's what
we're here for, so it's allgood.
So tell us about pulsatile whatare you developing?

Elleesha King (01:50):
yeah, sure.
So pulsatile innovations is astartup, and the flagship
product that we're working oncurrently is called pulsatile.
That's a single use device.
It's designed to be applied tothe neck of people who are
suspected of having cardiacarrest, and the idea is that it
provides fast and accuratefeedback to rescuers, whether

(02:11):
they're medically trained or not, that CPR is required or if
other life-saving interventionis required, and so we're really
trying to speed up the processand reduce the delays to CPR
that contribute to really lowsurvival outcomes for cardiac
arrest victims.

Caroline Duell (02:28):
What happens at the moment.
In that situation, whatinformation aren't people
getting?

Elleesha King (02:34):
When they respond to a cardiac arrest.
So what?
We know?
That even though trainedhealthcare professionals have 10
seconds to look for a pulse, itoften takes them longer.
There are studies that showthat even in controlled
situations, highly trainedmedical professionals take 24
seconds to find a pulse longerwhere there's no pulse.
And so even the trained personin a controlled environment is

(02:57):
subject to risking delay to CPR.
In the like in the laypersons.
When the out of hospitalcardiac arrest setting where a
layperson might respond to acardiac arrest their fate, they
face barriers such as fear ofgetting it wrong.
They'd rather do nothing thando something wrong.
Um, there's still a real feararound, even though it's

(03:20):
unfounded, around getting thatlitigation and being sued for
doing the wrong thing, eventhough there is no, um, there's
no evidence to suggest that'sever actually happened.
So it's about reducing thatindecision to provide a yes or
no answer and people can beconfident in the intervention
that they deliver.

Caroline Duell (03:40):
So describe this device to us.
How does it work?
Yeah, sure.

Elleesha King (03:44):
This is just a 3D , very early version of the
prototype and this is a reusableexample of it, and so this will
come on an adhesive patch, muchlike if you're familiar at all
with a defibrillation pad.
So you peel off the patch,apply it straight to the neck
and it will provide, as I said,quick and accurate feedback in a

(04:05):
visual form as to whether ornot CPR is required.

Caroline Duell (04:09):
This is obviously been the brainchild of
your own experience working asa nurse and as a paramedic.
When did this sort of dawn onyou that this was something that
we needed?

Elleesha King (04:22):
Yeah, super early on, probably even in uni,
something that we needed.
Yeah, super early on, probablyeven in uni.
We, you know, we do placements.
I was very young, as a graduatenurse paramedic and you know,
having had already attendedmultiple cardiac arrests and
like looking for a pulse in achaotic scene where there are,
you know, external factorsdistracting you.

(04:42):
The patient might have, youknow, might have been a
difficult position, havedifficult body habitus, and so,
for all of the equipment andtechnology and devices we have,
I couldn't believe that we'restill using fingers to try and
establish a pulse, make superimportant, life-changing
decisions for our patients,based maybe and, um, yeah, so

(05:08):
like that was.
That was super early on for me.
I think I was like 22 when Ifirst approached an IP lawyer
and the IP lawyer said greatidea, come back with a prototype
.
And I was a brand new nurseparamedic going how do I make
you a prototype?
Um, so I basically I did a lotof overtime for 10 years and
saved up a pot of money hopingthat someone else would invent

(05:28):
this and I could just go on aholiday.
But they didn't.
And, yeah, at the very end of2023 started 2024, I pulled the
trigger and said I need toapproach someone and develop
this device and give it a crack.
So that's the journey.
It's like the ideation was along time ago, but establishing
those sort of resources andstill seeing the need 10 years

(05:50):
later.
I thought about it every dayfor 10 years.
I'm obsessed.

Caroline Duell (05:53):
Amazing, and obviously the people that you
work with your own network,people in the healthcare setting
.
They validated this idea withyou along the way.

Elleesha King (06:03):
Have you always had support for it or have you
had to convince the doubters,that's interesting, like I'd
actually based on early even theadvice from that IP lawyer when
I was 22,.
He was like don't breathe aword to anyone, right, because
of IP protection, and soactually I did keep it to myself
for a very long time for thatreason.
But as soon as we had some IPprotection the patent, the

(06:26):
provisional patent applicationhad been filed and I started
talking about it, I hadcolleagues say, oh, I thought I
was the only one that was bad atchecking for a pulse, or oh,
how come that doesn't exist yet,and so that was super
validating.
And yeah, there's going to bedoubters all along the way, but
I think like the overallfeedback has been super
supportive and reinforcing ofthe problem and need for a

(06:49):
solution.

Caroline Duell (06:51):
Would your dream be to see this?
You know, in every ambulancethis sort of medical support
yeah, absolutely, and in everyambulance.

Elleesha King (06:59):
ambulance yes, because the idea for the
paramedics is also to reducesome cognitive load, free up a
set of hands, easedecision-making support.
But then for it also to beavailable in publicly accessible
AEDs, where a lay person cangrab it together with a
defibrillator, make gooddecisions regarding their CPR.
It provides feedback regardingrate and depth of compressions.

(07:22):
So even untrained like peoplewho have not been trained in CPR
will have feedback then andthere regarding the
effectiveness of theircompression.
So they'll have confidence thatthey're giving the best chance
of survival possible.
But also that it can beavailable for an astute first
aider to purchase and keep intheir own first aid kit in the
home where most cardiac arrestsoccur.

(07:43):
You know, there are those firstaiders who have got high
quality first aid kits who areready to purchase a pulse tile
to supplement that.
And there's people who havedefibrillators personally owned
defibrillators, and so, yeah,the opportunity certainly lies
in that space.

Caroline Duell (08:02):
How do you get the feedback from the pulse tile
in terms of whether there's aheart rate or heartbeat, and
then, as you mentioned, it'sgiving you feedback on your
compressions?
How is that built into yourdevice?

Elleesha King (08:15):
So it's right in the centre of the device and we
want to keep it like wireless,not attached to phones.
A future iteration couldinclude some software and we've
protected that in our IPstrategy, but for now it's the
single use, wire free, as simpleas possible device with that
visual display right at thefront of the neck.

Caroline Duell (08:34):
So if someone's obviously unconscious but they
have a pulse, what do you haveto do then?
Do you have to start some sortof compression?

Elleesha King (08:42):
No, so then the pulse tile will show that they
have a pulse and then they won'tget CPR because there can be
danger and there's riskassociated with giving CPR where
it's not required and while thepulse tile will say like, wait
or look for something else to do.
That includes laying them ontheir side to protect their
airway, calling triple zero sothat you're still waiting for an
ambulance.
All the while, pulse tile willbe monitoring for deterioration,

(09:10):
if that person loses a pulse,and then you'll know, you won't
have to monitor it the wholetime.

Caroline Duell (09:12):
And then if they improve hopefully they do
they'll be sitting up chattingto you shortly hopefully I can
see what a difference and alsowhat a relief it would be to be
using this in this situation,like you say, where there's many
things going on.
You're trying to evaluate thepatient.
It's one less thing you have tothink about A hundred percent.

Elleesha King (09:29):
Yeah, it's interesting too.
I went in with it thinking, oh,I want to help the victims, but
there's also merit in helpinglike it's to help the rescuers
as well.
Have a you know when, when theyare confident, more confident
in their interventions they'llbe.
They're a better patientoutcome that sounds really
amazing.

Caroline Duell (09:49):
You talked about developing it over time and the
work that you've done to tobring it to reality prototype
and and things like that.
Where are you at now, like, howsoon can we see this innovation
in operation?

Elleesha King (10:02):
I wish it was sooner.
So, as you would know, themedical, the med tech journey is
long and arduous and I'm stilllearning about it, but leaning
into the support of the expertteam that I've built around me.
So we've got our alphaprototype.
The tech team's working on thefinal stages of the MVP, which
would be used for clinicaltrials.
So we're going to, or at leastthe first in human trial.

(10:26):
We'll be opening our pre-seedfundraising round shortly to
provide the resources to be ableto start those trials before
the end of the year.

Caroline Duell (10:36):
And obviously the journey as an entrepreneur
when you're working full-time isa challenging one.
Is that one of the reasons whyyou decided to apply to take
part in the Australian ClinicalEntrepreneurs Program?

Elleesha King (10:50):
Yes, it's just that expansion of network right,
and I'd participated in quite afew programs well, not quite a
few programs, oh, not quite afew.
A couple of programs um 20earlier in 2024 that were
industry agnostic, and I learnedsome really valuable things
about you know how to build abusiness, what a cap table looks
like, all of the lingo about itfelt like three degrees in the

(11:11):
space of nine months, um, butwhat really occurred to me was a
lack of that med tech specificcircle.
That's what I was missing, andso that's what you know drew me
to the OSSEP program, and it'spaid out in spades.

Elizabeth Stares (11:26):
Elizabeth over to you.
So where was your journey whenyou started the the OSSEP
program, and what, specifically,have been your highlights?
Where?
Where have you learned the mostthrough it?

Elleesha King (11:40):
I think I was just finishing up like an
industry agnostic acceleratorprogram which, as I said, got
heaps out of but was looking forsomething more, and so I can't
actually remember how I got ontoOSEP, except that maybe I've
been recommended from someone inthat circle, and yeah, who also
then saw the value in thatindustry specific program.

(12:01):
Um, yeah, and what have I gotout of it?
It's their, you know, theircohort themselves is some like a
group that you can ask anythingto and not feel I don't feel
any hesitation in asking anyquestion.
No question feels silly.
They're super supportive.
Um, you know the, the speakersthat the team have introduced to

(12:22):
come and tell like to speak todifferent aspects of the journey
, um, the med, like the med techjourney specifically, um
learning about things likeregulatory and reimbursement and
those sorts of aspects thatknow your average startup
outside of med tech doesn't haveto deal with, and so that's
been like absolutely thehighlights.

Elizabeth Stares (12:44):
And so we're due to open a new program on the
19th of May.
What would your message be toanyone thinking of joining OSSEP
?

Elleesha King (12:54):
It's just I mean as the support and the opening
up to a network that I'm sureyou could establish yourself,
but outside of OSEP it wouldtake so long and having those
connections right there, likethe support in Victoria, we've
got Anna and Brandon there whoare just ultra connected and

(13:15):
generous, generous with thoseconnections.
So having access to that rightthere, you just wouldn't get it
on your own, and so that's that.
That's been my message to acouple of people who have
already got, who will apply onthe 19th so we've got one more
month left.

Elizabeth Stares (13:31):
We've got our finale event where we're going
to be wrapping up and looking atsome pitching, potentially with
some up and looking at somepitching, potentially with some
investors as advisors in theroom.

Elleesha King (13:43):
Where are you heading to next?
Yeah, um, we're opening up ourproceed fund rate fundraise
shortly, so that, um, pit stopis going to be a particularly
valuable for us.
Um, and then, yeah, we need,yeah, we need to acquire some
resources so we can do the nextmilestones.
So the next milestones is forus really formalising the
regulatory strategy that willinform the clinical trial

(14:06):
pathway and get us ready for asmall-scale manufacture.
Yeah, we're excited.

Caroline Duell (14:12):
What if anyone wants to get in touch with you
to talk about this more?
How do they find you Well?

Elleesha King (14:18):
probably that website would be easiest, which
is thepulstylecom, and yeah,there's links there for how to
get in touch further, but I lovehaving a chat to anyone
aspiring founders.
I think like the best thing wecan do is like pay back the
support that I've already had,but also, yeah, anyone who wants

(14:39):
to follow the journey, supportus with any resources.
Mentorship would be very muchappreciated.

Caroline Duell (14:46):
That was Alicia King, a paramedic and nurse and
founder of Pulsatile Innovations, talking about developing a
patented pulse sensing device tosave lives.
To find out how to be part ofthe next cohort of the
Australian ClinicalEntrepreneurship Program, visit
their website to find out more.
At auscepau, you've beenlistening to the MTP Connect

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