December 31, 2023 • 41 mins
Mike Keith invites Titans great Brett Kern to "Follow Me Through Tennessee" to Manchester and the conversation on the drive is outstanding. The OTP, presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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have you with us on the OTP and going to
share a really special conversation that I had with one
of the Titans greats in recent years. That's punter Brett Kern.
He was something else during his time with this football
team and means a lot to the people in the community.
And I got to take him as part of our
follow Me through Tennessee series to Manchester, Tennessee and Jiffy
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Berger where I had the Bonneruberger. That's another story. If
you've never been to Jeffy Berger, you must go. And
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But as we rode down in my truck, I got
a chance to talk with Brett Kern at length about
his career. He told some funny stories, and we wanted
to share that entire conversation with you on the OTP.
So here's Titan's Great Brett Kern on the road, following
me through Tennessee to Jiffy Berger in Manchester on the OTP.
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I know you're just starting it, But how's retirement going.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's going great? You know.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I kind of had in my mind, you know, up
in Philly, just experiencing being away from family, and yeah,
I'm a man of rhythm and routine, and you know,
you could probably call my wife on a Wednesday at
eleven o'clock and say, hey, what's Brett doing right now?
What she'd be able to tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So, going up to Philly, great spot, great, great organization,
but everything was just it was different. You had a
new rhythm, new routine, things that I've been used to
for so long, for you know, thirteen years at Tennessee. Right,
it was just totally kind of flipped upside down. And
so I knew that if I wanted to keep playing football,
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you know, I'd be in a different city. It wasn't
going to be at home in Nashville. And and so
that's when you know, I kind of started thinking about,
you know, being done, and you know, I'm also I
always told myself and you were to ask other guys
you know that I play with that the day that
I don't feel like I'm punting at the elite level
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that I know I can punt, you know, it's kind
of the day that I need to be done because
I don't want to be out there just punting and
kind of surviving.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And if people know me for the.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Type of punts that I had and you know, the consistency,
if I'm not there, then you know it's time. It's
time to move on. So I think another big decision
for that was, you know, family. My kids are older,
you know, thirteen eleven seven, right, so they're the sports
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all that kind of stuff, right, and I want to
be there for all of it. I want to start,
you know, coaching and helping out and you know, as
you know football, your weekends are kind of tied up
for half the year or so.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's funny because people always said to me, they say,
do you do you hunt or fish? And I tell them, no,
I don't do either, and oh, you don't like that
or you against that, It's like, no, no, no, it
doesn't have anything to do with that. It's right at
work weekends, right, I mean, you don't generally go out
Tuesday afternoon, you know, right, And so that's yeah, it
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it is a life change because the commitment to anything
related to sports. And I tell college kids this too,
if you want to work in anything in sports, it's
gonna be nights and weekends, that's right. Yeah, And that's
the hardest part of it, really, right, because it's hard
on a family, it is.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And so yeah, you get to the point where it's
just I mean, if you were to ask me in college, hey,
you're going to play in the NFL for fifteen years,
I would have I mean I would have laughed and
I said, I mean, that will be unbelievable what that happens.
But you know, I mean the chances, the percentages of
that happening is so slim, right, unbelievable. And so I've
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been blessed for fifteen years and it's just just felt
like it was time to to hang him up and
just kind of see what the next chapter of life brings,
and more importantly, you know, just spending more time with
family and uh, you know, get the uh the coaching
hat on for for the kids.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So your son Bryce is thirteen, what sports is he
involved with?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
H he's he's doing flag football.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I got him into golf and so we're we're trying
to play golf a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And honestly, you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Know, we go we go over to the little course
there in Franklin, right right there by Legends, and I
love it because it's not a difficult course like it's
It always keeps him engaged, right and it's working on,
you know, parts of his game that he you know,
needs to work on, but just to be able to
walk and talk, you know, from hole to hole. It's
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a lot of fun. And it's time that I just
want to cherish right now, you know, because when he's
got five years left, which seems like a lot, but
I mean, you know how fast things go, right and like,
and I just want to be able to to make
the most of those those years that I have left
with him before he goes off to college.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Any interest in punting or kicking.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, we fool around in the front yard. So he's
he's he's natural. He's got longer legs, so I think
that'll cater more towards punning. And I think he's a
little bit more interested in punning. But his thing is
he's growing so fast that his foot his foot size
is growing as well, and for the size football that
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they would kick, it's just kind of it's it's difficult
for him, but but it works out well for punting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So yeah, I mean I give him.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I give him pointers here and there, and sometimes they're
taking well and other times it's the dad, come on,
like I got a dad.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I'm like, okay, welcome to being a dead right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I just hope I don't have to send him to
a camp to learn punting when you know, you know,
he's got a pretty good resource in his home. So
but we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So my neighborhood, I had my son out one day
and we were working on punting and at the time,
Craig hentricklifted in the back of my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It was well, it was it was really great. So
so Craig comes by one day. Matthew's probably ten or eleven,
and Craig just pulls over. He says, show me one
and so he hits one. He's like, Okay, try this,
and it was something that I had just shown Matthew
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not five minutes before, which he of course had not
listened to at all. And Matthew did exactly what Craig
told him and then hit a spyroll that went you know,
twenty five or thirty yards, which was a really good kick.
And Craig gets back in the truck and says, okay,
see layer. Thanks, And so it was so Craig, it
was so underwhelming. He's like, hey, try I mean he
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said like six words, right, but it was Craig Hentrick.
And so my son was like, that's Greg Hendrick. And
that was one of the neat things for my kids
growing up around the team is they have all these
pictures where Javon Kurse palmed their heads, you know, with
his massive hands. Albert Hainsworth had him in bear hugs,
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and you know, Carrie Collins was doing stuff with him.
I mean, it's just what a what a blessed way
for them to to grow up so fun. I think
they thought everybody was.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Like that, right, Yeah, well, I mean that's you know,
when you know, for Bryce to be able to go
on the field after games or in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean he's you know in the Pro Bowl,
you know, playing catch with Lamar Jackson and it's you know,
mark Ingram's trying to trying to teach him a dance,
and you know, it's you know, being being able to
hang out with Mahomes and some of those guys and
just play catch with.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Them, and uh yeah, I mean it's it's been. It's
been a huge blessing.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I mean, you got, you know, kids that obviously look
up to Derrick Henry and you know, Kevin Buyer, some
of the you know, Jeffrey, the guys on the team
that are just phenomenal role models.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And I always tell people, you know, don't buy a
jersey unless of somebody, unless you know they're somebody that
you want to you know, have their last name that
you're representing. And uh, you know, thankfully the Titians have
a lot of those guys, right. But you know, but
Bryce and Derek are you know, buddies rights and so
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it's sometimes sometimes you got.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
To pinch yourself, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Sometimes even through my whole career, I've just been you know,
to go in when I was in Denver and John
Lynch was the locker across her mind, right, And I
just remember thinking, this is this is John Lynch, right,
and Brian Dawkins was, you know, two lockers down to.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The left Kriton.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, it's all throughout the years that the guys have
been able to play with and you know, to be
in a locker room with Randy Moss and you know,
that's it's been a huge blessing.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Who was the most excited guy? Who was the guy
you were most excited to me? Excited to me or
that floored you the most?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, probably Randy, Yeah, because I had a Randy Moss
Vikings Jersey growing up, right and so and and I
remember I was on the verge of my agent and
the Titans were talking about an extension because I was
right on that that cusp of hey, we can get
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him locked up.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
For four years, three four years, maybe five whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It was that that that my agent the Titans were
talking to and uh, you know, it didn't happen for
two three weeks, and which is not the easiest thing
to do during the season. I definitely wouldn't recommend that
to any youngster out there, but uh, but the Titans
called my agent and said, hey, we're gonna have to
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put this this deal on hold till after the season
because we're we're signing Randy Moss. And my agent calls
me and he tells me, and I remember being frustrated
for about five right, and then I thought, well, wait
a second, We're signing Randy Moss. This is somebody that
I've looked up to, you know, since I was in
high school when he came to the league and seeing
how he played.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And now I'm gonna be a teammate with Randy Moss.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And so I was okay with that, and it ended
up being as advertised and.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Heck of a teammate. And there's always always like story.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Time by Randy's locker, you know, before practice, after practice,
you just tell stories. So it's uh, Randy Moss is
definitely that's definitely a tough one.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I got a call during a funeral that we were
signing in. I'm sitting in a funeral. Wow. And I
don't usually bring my phone into things like that, Right,
You're always afraid your.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Phone as much as you try to how many times
you check too, right?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't bring it into church, and I
try not to bring it into like weddings or funerals
or anything, right, cool performance or anything important. Right, So
I had it in my coat and I didn't realize it,
and then it was just like buzzing. And this was
twenty ten, right, and so the buzz wasn't terribly subtle
at that time. It's like, you know, and so it
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wasn't ringing, but it just kept going off. And so
I'm sitting there and and of course I'm not answering it,
but it just keeps going off. And then we're in
like the receiving line to give condolences and get up
to the folks, and it's umb like, oh gosh, this
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is so embarrassing. It's so I get outside and you
know they've you know, I could have gotten a text
message at the time, but everybody at that point still called.
It's like nobody calls on the phone anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Now was that still?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That wasn't When did it switch? Where your text messaging?
Because I remember you had to pay like five.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
To you did you did?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
This is twenty ten, So but we're in that spot
where later we're so I walk outside, I tell my wife,
I said, I got to go outside and to see
what this is. And so I listened to the voicemail
We're signing Randy Moss, and we had to do a
live hit. I'm standing in the parking lot under an underhang,
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it's pouring rain, and I'm doing an interview because this
is a huge deal. It's Randy Moss. And you know,
at that point in the twenty ten season, we're still
in it. Yeah, you know, because that was the year
we started five and two and then ended up six
and ten and everything kind of went crazy down the stretch.
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But we added him and you're thinking, Okay, this is
going to be great. And he was so different than
when he was being recruited. He's one of the most
bizarre recruits recovered. And I didn't have the primary role
for my for the radio station. Another friend of mine,
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Brent Hubbs, dealt with him more. But he was bizarre,
just completely baffling, and I think, now, maybe he was
just messing with people, Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah,
But then he ends up being almost positively delightful what
he was here. And then you know, he's great on TV.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
He's great on TV.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, and we still I mean, you know, I took
Bryce down to the Super Bowl when Ryan Sucker was
playing in it, and we drove out you know because
Matt hasseback is on that the countdown as well. Yeah,
so we I was texting Matt he said, hey, come
out to the to the beach, that's where we're at.
And so we drove out there and got to see
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the set and uh, you know, anytime I see Randy
he's always been uh so nice and friendly and smart man.
Smart guy, Yeah, very smart and yeah, he's it was
fun to be around it. I wish it was for longer.
But yeah, what a what a teammate.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You ever counted up how many different teammates you had?
You know?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
My wife thought, uh, you know, playing with with FITZI
you know what he did, Remember how he listed every
teammate that he played with, and and I thought about
doing that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I just didn't. I just didn't know where to start.
I didn't know where to start.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But it's a lot, it's a lot of really good
guys that I've been able to play with, a lot
of guys I've been able to get close with.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Where does Ryan Fitzpatrick rank on your list of characters that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You Yeah, he's in that. Uh, Matt Castle Ryan Fitzpatrick.
It's like this this category of guys that are just
they're smart, uh, very witty and.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Extremely funny and quick like Ryan was. His humor is
it's quick. Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And so you felt like if you got into some
type of I don't want to say argument, but you
know the jabs right that happened in the locker room,
you were gonna win because he was so quick and
witty with it. That had just left you kind of
and I don't I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
How to respond to that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I don't know what to say while you're while you're
laughing hysterically as he made fun of you.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Right, But you rank Matt Castle in there too, Yeah,
Matt's up there.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I wouldn't have thought of that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well he's certainly a bright guy who had a really
good career too.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He played for a really long time too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I've I've been I've been really fortunate, blessed with that row,
you know, that kind of that quarterback row that I've
been a part of, uh, you know, with with Marcus
and uh, you know, Marcus is.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know, one of my favorite teammates I've ever played with.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But that some of those quarterbacks that have come through
have been I shoot, I remember being next to Carrie
Collins and how awesome he was to be around. And
you know, I had Craig on one side and Carrie
on the other side. And and you know, after I
got cut in Denver, to be able to come here
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and to have those two guys Craig to your left
and and Carrie on your right, was I mean that
alone right there helped me kind of recover and bounce
back from you know, from getting cut and those two guys.
To be around those two guys for as young as
I was, and to be able to pick their brain
and talk and what's like what you said earlier, Craig,
it was just he would come out to practice and
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you know, I'd hit three or four balls in a
row that I didn't like, and he would just say, hey,
why don't you, hey, move your drop inside an itch.
You know he's back there, and I'm thinking, I didn't
even know he was really paying attention that much. And okay, yeah,
you got it. Craig and I do it man four
in a row, five in a row, and I would
look back at Craig would be gone, he'd be headed
back to the training room just you know, he didn't
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say much, but you know his advice was.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It was just so on the point.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
But he never wanted anything, No, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He just wanted to give his opinion and what he
thought and he.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Was right and off he went.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He you know, he didn't need the attention, he didn't
need they thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean he would he would stop you before he
even got started to compliment him.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
How lucky was Rob Baroni's that he had Craig Hendrick
when he made the Titans, when he became an NFL kicker.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, I you know, I've had a lot of conversations
with guys over over the years that I played, and
you know, with kickers, and just how important holding is
and how important you know your your holder is as
a person because the things, the things that you say,
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you're kind of like, you know, suck up. And I
always used to talk about like, I mean, he's the golfer,
right and right, and the holder is the caddy.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Right, the golfer is the one that's going to get
all the attention. Look at that.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Shot, Look what you did, But the work kind of
leading up to it you know the caddy is just
as important, right, sure, So.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It's great in golf. Now they are giving us those
conversations more on TV. Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It is fascinating and just to see really how much
detail goes into every shot.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
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Speaker 3 (20:16):
Because there's I mean, there's so much. It's such a finite,
you know, a shot here or there. I mean it's
just like a football game, right to play here and
play there. Can cast you a ballgame, well, you know,
a shot here, shot there, throughout a.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Tournament, and you know, you go from.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Winning a tournament to you know, now you're now you're
not even top ten and and all that kind of
stuff that goes along with it. But yeah, I mean
for for Rob to have Craig not only as a person,
right for Rob coming in the league. Anytime you can
get just a veteran leader, and I know there's a
couple of times here, you know in Tennessee where we
had some young guys in that would you know, they're
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gonna battle it out. They're gonna let them, you know,
battle out to see who can do it right. And
you know, I just felt like it was part of
my responsibility to help them out mentally and really take
a lot of the pressure off of them, you know,
as far as holding, like, hey, I'm going to be
as consistent as I can be, and I'm going to
help you out as much as I can so that
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you don't even have to think about all that, because
there are there are times where you know the holding
is not great, and sometimes you get a veteran kicker
that gets a young punter in there and they don't
understand the finite details.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, then that's something else that the kicker now has
to think about, right on top of everything else that's
going on.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And if you can just go out there and just
know just hey, all I have to worry about is
just kicking it through these yellow things, right and getting
three points or an extra point, it makes their job
a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So when you were suck ups Caddy at Kansas City
at twenty sixteen, when he hit the kick at the
end of the ball game, So what are you telling
him leading up to that? I've always wanted to know that.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean it's the hard part. Was is that
in warm ups, I don't know if Ryan got past
forty two?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He did, right, Yeah, So I thought I had him
because I watch to get engage. I thought I had
him at like forty seven, maybe barely kind of sort of.
I mean he went anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Fifty, right, because Dustin and I I remember Dustin Colquitt
and I talked to warm ups and punting that I
don't think I got a ball over forty five rude, right,
And he hit one that was fifty, but it was
I mean, nothing looked like an Aaron Rodgers Kilbarry. It
didn't even you know, barely got off the ground. And
so so I remember Ryan and the warm ups and
he was just he's like he's like, Bret, I think
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an extra points even gonna be, you know, a call.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Task in this game. And because the ball, I mean
it was so cold and that ball was so hard
that the sweet spot just shrunk and you had to
hit it perfectly on top of your body.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Just you know, you can only be by the heater
so much because if you're by the heater then all
of a sudden, your muscles are staying really really lose,
and then when you go to the cold, it's.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just it's not it's not great.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But I just remember us talking, and you know the
thing is is, you know, you get that far back,
you know, to get a little extra distance, sometimes you
can lean the ball forward, right, but in doing that,
it lowers your trajectory, and so there's kind of a
finite the detail of what's too much, what's not enough.
I mean, if you want to hold it straight up
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and down, you know, So we kind of had that
conversation and you know, if anything, we just we just
kind of kept it a little bit straighter than normal
for him, just so he can maybe get a little
bit more of a draw to maybe try to get
an extra rd or two. And I just remember jogging
out there thinking, how I cannot believe we're attempting this thing,
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but we have no other option, no, right, So he
got that first crack at it, and it was short,
barely I don't you know. From my view, it looked
like he barely missed it. I'm not sure what your
view was, but.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I'll tell you this. It was apparent when he hit
it wasn't gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Have enough, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean you could sometimes you can see from where
we are right and where our booth was a great angle.
We were closer to that yard line than the other
side of the field, right. And so when it came
off his foot and Andy Reid had called the time out,
You're like, well, did he not hit it as hard
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as he could because of the time out? Or I
think he took a full swing though, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I think he did too. But I also know I
know with Ryan that he really really goes after it.
He tends to hook it and he'll miss it left.
And so I think there was in his mind, Okay,
I know, I have to go after this really hard.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But if I do, you know what, I at least
want to.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Give it a chance, right, And so I mean he
he gave it all he had and it was straight
as an arrow, and then they called the time out
and I just remember him bending over and retying his
kicking chew and he's like, well, he's well, I better
get this all I got. I said, Ryan, you better,
you better get this all you got, buddy. And then
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the next one he just he smoked it and it
went in and he went right to the chief's bench
to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I'm not sure if that was kind of a hey,
you know, I played here for a long time. This
is you know, he's had some.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Game winners before in chief uniforms, right, But or if
it was more or less like you know, we called
him the Chief Killer.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
He did it because that's what he that's what he does.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I remember his first game as a Titan, opened up
an arrowhead and he went like four four, five for five, right,
and you know we won the game.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
The rest of that season is something not to talk about.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
But you know when he started one, started one and
oh he's Chief Killer and he did it in the
Super Bowl. He did it in twenty sixteen, and that's
that's something I'll never.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Never, ever forget.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
One of my favorite guys I ever covered, Bryan Suckham. Yeah,
quality human being, one of the nicest guys you'll meet,
I mean, but a true professional. Talk to you after
he hit him, talk to you after he missed him.
Understood everybody had a job to do. One of my
big thrills was getting to see him when we practiced
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against Tampa in twenty twenty one down there and to
just congratulate him on being a Super Bowl champion. You
know those guys who go other places. I mean, we
certainly want to win one desperately, right, but you're happy
for those people who do it the right way.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And that's h.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I think that's why you know, Bryce and I drove
down there is I just didn't want to miss that.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, he's.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We were brought together through football, but obviously we're brothers,
you know, for life outside of that. That's something that
you want to be there for.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So I was.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Excited for him to win a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And I remember the conversation that we had his training
camp and he was like he was down in Tampa.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He's like, man, I got this workout down here.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I just don't know. I just don't know if I
should do it. I don't know if you should sign here.
And it's like, dude, you're with Tom Brady, Like you
got a chance. I mean, what do you what do
you have to lose?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So, and so that's worked out worked.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Out well for him.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah he did Okay, Yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Did heck of her career because one of the most
accurate guys that I've seen. He'd be one of those
guys where you tell him forty yards you know, I
want you to aim and hit this crossbar or this
field goal post.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Every time.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
He's gonna he's gonna hit it. So sometimes it almost
became boring. It was just so straight and just down
the middle. And he's like, why why are we even
ran Like you're gonna put it right down the middle
every time?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Can we just can we just move on and do
something else?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But were you surprised he came to your retirement announcement?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, I mean, we're I was just thankful that he
was able to come. I knew he was I knew
if he could come that he was gonna be there,
you know, for Bo to fly in obviously Morgan to come.
You know, they've met a lot because those those three
guys right there are you know, my my favorite teammates
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really have altership and guys that I've gotten they're they're
guys that are they're just more than teammates, you know,
hang out his families and we're just we're just close.
And so for the three of them to be there,
you know, it meant a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
What you probably by the way that they couldn't have
gone any better.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, you I see, you're not the sling anymore either,
which is healthy. You're healthy, healthy, training staff got you,
got it going, got.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You through, good rehair, gotta be ready for Hey. Availability, availability,
that's what they say. That's that's what the you know,
you walk into the training room and that's the best
the best availability is Hey, we we lived that too.
I mean, when you get the opportunity to work for
an NFL team, you know, there aren't a lot of
people that are lucky enough to get to do that,
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So yeah, you don't miss stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Availability is the best, the ability, I.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Think that's what it says.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of scenes up
in the building.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I haven't written down in a notebook I do because
you never you never know, or you never knew when
Frabel was gonna either show a teammate on the board
and ask, hey, who's who's this teammate?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
And of course it was great because it was like
a high school throwback or a college throwback, and it
was it was pretty use. Yeah, you know, Stretch would
find these pictures that were just gold. Right, But you
never knew when he was gonna ask a question of
what does it say in the training room or what
does it say outside the locker room? Line for right?
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And there might be five lines, and you have what's
line for well. I think I had one, two and
three memorized, but four and five were a little sketching.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yes, So I just remember.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
When he came.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
When he came in twenty eighteen, he started doing that
and I just thought to myself, I better go around
the building and write this stuff. Now.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't know if he'll ever call me right. I
went through Rotadel down and I think I still have
the notebook in my office at the house.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And that's so Greaty.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Nerves, you got nervous during team meetings. Yeah, Like I
started special teams meetings totally fine.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I was obviously.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I knew all the calls, I knew all the returns,
all that kind of stuff, right, But you know team
meetings is when you started, you know, hands got a
little cold, started to sweat a little bit because I
mean you just did not know what he was gonna ask.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So, I mean you played for all of the Titans
head coaches. Fisher, I did, mind check, yeah, to wizen Hunt,
to Malarkey and out.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Of right, yeah I did. And it was each one
was you know, I kind of learned from from each
one kind of you know, the how they're how they taught,
how they their expectations, you know, kind of for each
coach you played for, you knew like when the next
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one came up, kind of what to expect and different
situations styles that they liked. Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And it was hard.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean every time you got a new coach, you know,
you feel you have to you have to prove yourself
to somebody that you don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
My check was was a little bit easier because he
was under coach phisial staff, right, and so he'd seen you,
you know, he'd seen a lot of the guys that
were there. He saw me play before all that. But
you still have to still have to prove yourself, right,
You have to prove yourself every year, regardless if you
make a Pro Bowl or you know, obviously you maybe
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maybe you don't have a great year.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And so.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Because I remember twenty sixteen year was I mean, I
didn't have a great year. It wasn't wasn't hit the
ball great, wasn't as consistent as consistent as I wanted to.
And I knew twenty seventeen had to be a really,
really good year, and thankfully it was, you know, the
first Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I went to.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
But wut it's good.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was a good bounce back.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yere right, But yeah, every time you get a new coach,
new GM, there's just that extra pressure to perform for
somebody that you don't I don't I don't know who
Ken Wizen it was.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I knew that he'd coached, but you know, he doesn't
know me. I don't know him.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You have to go out there and improve yourself and
that could take that could take a lot out of
you mentally and physically. And uh, you know, I remember
us chatting on the on the podcast you know, kind
of about the biggest accomplishment, and I think to be
able to play for all the gms, all the coaches
that the types have had, Yeah, that's probably been my
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biggest Yeah, that's probably the thing I'm probably most proud of.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Get that. What do you remember about when they let
wizend Hunt go at Malarkey but he came the head coach.
What do you remember about that week?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I'm trying to remember what game he got? Was it
after the Texans?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Because I give it set up on that So Jimmy
Stanton is our director of mediate res or is over
all of our communications at the time, right, and we
had wondered if if we lose this game, do they
make a change because it was in Houston's.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It's there's something about, well, well something about going to
Houston though, Like I remember Coach Fisher and Coach Munch
really preaching about and we're going to Houston.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Do you know what this means?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, dark, I don't know. Every player needs to understand that.
To our ownership, the Houston game is significant. We played
particularly poorly in that game. Marcus took a beating.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
So Jimmy gets on the plane and since his seat
is next to mine, and I said, so, what do
you think He goes, he gayes, I don't think any
decisions been made. So normally, if you're going to fire
a coach in season, you fire the coach on Monday,
right and they you know, we get to Monday and
I walked by Jimmy's office Monday morning. He goes, I'm
not hearing anything. And the reason we're talking about it
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is we have TV shows to do.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's the radio show.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, you got a lot, but the Monday
night radio shows one thing. But we have to put
out TV shows for later in the week, and we
have to shoot them early in the week because if
we're in a situation where somebody's going to get fired,
you don't want to send out a show with somebody
in the show who's not there by the time the
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show airs. So we're going to film Titans All Access
Monday afternoon. And I looked at Jimmy again. He goes,
he said, I think there's some talk, but he goes,
I don't know. And so we go film the show. Well,
Rustin Webster is our general manager, and we do this
(35:51):
late Monday afternoon, five o'clock and we film his segment
and he says, walk outside with me here for a
second week. Okay, the segment was great. I was hoping
I didn't ask a question that he didn't like, right,
He said, I just got the call before I walked
in here. We're making a change first thing in the morning,
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and ownership. Amy Adamstrong wanted to take the day to
not be emotional because of the Houston game and to
take but it says a lot about who she is,
you know, because she knew she she knew she wasn't
making the decision for the New Orleans game that Sunday,
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she was making a decision for the whole franchise, right,
And he said, we are. We're making a change first
thing in the morning. He said, I just wanted you
to know that. So I have to walk back in
and film the rest of this show that I know
is not gonna air, that we're gonna have to go
back and reshoot it. And I can't tell anybody, because
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you know, that's that's one of the areas, right. I
very rarely know things because honestly, Brett, I don't ask.
It's easier not to know because when somebody asks you
you can say truthfully, right, I don't know because I'm
not interested in lying to anybody.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And so Tuesday morning comes down and they call wizen
Hunt in at eight o'clock and he's fired then, and
we think it's gonna be malarkey as the interim coach,
but quite frankly, if you don't know if he's gonna
take it.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
So then you pick up the story from there from
the players perspective.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You know, like I said earlier about the Houston, like,
you know, obviously, you know you have to perform every
Sunday that that's just part of your job.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
But there's something extra when you go down to Houston.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
This and I really didn't understand it the first year
or two, and then it finally you know, it's like, yeah,
this is this is a very very important game. It's
a thing regardless of what your record is, like, this
is important. And so and we lost bad, really bad,
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and so guys were kind of talking like.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Do is there gonna be a change? Do we need
to make a change?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh? You thought that was possible at that point?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Because I mean I remember coach Fisher
and Coach Munchek. They would always talk about, hey, if
we don't if we don't perform down here in Houston,
there's gonna be a change made in some way, shape
or form, right right, So you didn't know, probably not
coaching maybe, but whoever maybe didn't play well, whoever to
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perform like, you're probably gonna get cut, right, And so
the guys that have been there, that had been through
the transition, they understood that.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And so guys thought, well, it could be some play.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You know, things with with coach Whiz aren't really going
how we thought they would or how how they probably should.
That's pretty crazy to make a change right now. There's
just all kinds of thoughts. And then nothing happened Monday,
and then we just.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, well let's let's just keep plugging along.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Because you're in the building Monday, you're working out, you're
doing all kinds of things for post game recovery and
all that, and you don't really hear anything. And so
for it to go down Tuesday, it was it's like, wow, okay,
so who on the staff can take over? And I
remember texting some guys and they were like, man.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I hope it's coach Blarkie. Who's coach ble ARKI I
think he would.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
He's got experience, you know, I like I kind of
like the way he conducts things, and you know, talk
to the tight ends and they were all likely.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I really hope it's him, right, So, uh found out
it was him, and.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
You know, to come back the following week, you know,
and win how we did in overtime in New Orleans?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Right? Uh was it Fasano anthy? That was that?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I remember celebrating and uh, I remember going down to
the end zone celebrating and it got a little too
crowded for me because I remember thinking, if someone steps
on my foot, I'm in trouble. So I did a
couple of helmet taps and I remember just getting.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Out of there quickly.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
So, but yeah, that's that's not an easy thing to
go through coaching changes like that.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
So, uh, it just.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Puts there's already enough pressure to perform and to do
your job. Uh, you know every Sunday and when you
throw on a coaching change, and you know that there's
a little instab instability kind of going on, and and
if you're willing to make a change with a head coach, right,
you know, what does that tell you for the players,
And so yeah, that was that. That was a tough here.
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That was that was a tough, tough season.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Thanks so much to Brett Kerr for taking time with
me to go to Jiffy Berger in Manchester and to
share some good stories in the truck as he followed
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have you with us on the OTP and going to
share a really special conversation that I had with one
of the Titans greats in recent years. That's punter Brett Kern.
He was something else during his time with this football
team and means a lot to the people in the community.
And I got to take him as part of our
follow Me through Tennessee series to Manchester, Tennessee and Jiffy
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Berger where I had the Bonneruberger. That's another story. If
you've never been to Jeffy Berger, you must go. And
if you like something crazy, the bonn U Burger outstanding,
the fry's outstanding. Everything they do at Jiffy Berger is phenomenal.
Tell them we sent you when you go by, and
I have a feeling they'll take extra good care of you.
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But as we rode down in my truck, I got
a chance to talk with Brett Kern at length about
his career. He told some funny stories, and we wanted
to share that entire conversation with you on the OTP.
So here's Titan's Great Brett Kern on the road, following
me through Tennessee to Jiffy Berger in Manchester on the OTP.
(01:35):
I know you're just starting it, But how's retirement going.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's going great? You know.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I kind of had in my mind, you know, up
in Philly, just experiencing being away from family, and yeah,
I'm a man of rhythm and routine, and you know,
you could probably call my wife on a Wednesday at
eleven o'clock and say, hey, what's Brett doing right now?
What she'd be able to tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So, going up to Philly, great spot, great, great organization,
but everything was just it was different. You had a
new rhythm, new routine, things that I've been used to
for so long, for you know, thirteen years at Tennessee. Right,
it was just totally kind of flipped upside down. And
so I knew that if I wanted to keep playing football,
(02:25):
you know, I'd be in a different city. It wasn't
going to be at home in Nashville. And and so
that's when you know, I kind of started thinking about,
you know, being done, and you know, I'm also I
always told myself and you were to ask other guys
you know that I play with that the day that
I don't feel like I'm punting at the elite level
(02:46):
that I know I can punt, you know, it's kind
of the day that I need to be done because
I don't want to be out there just punting and
kind of surviving.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And if people know me for the.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Type of punts that I had and you know, the consistency,
if I'm not there, then you know it's time. It's
time to move on. So I think another big decision
for that was, you know, family. My kids are older,
you know, thirteen eleven seven, right, so they're the sports
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all that kind of stuff, right, and I want to
be there for all of it. I want to start,
you know, coaching and helping out and you know, as
you know football, your weekends are kind of tied up
for half the year or so.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
It's funny because people always said to me, they say,
do you do you hunt or fish? And I tell them, no,
I don't do either, and oh, you don't like that
or you against that, It's like, no, no, no, it
doesn't have anything to do with that. It's right at
work weekends, right, I mean, you don't generally go out
Tuesday afternoon, you know, right, And so that's yeah, it
(03:51):
it is a life change because the commitment to anything
related to sports. And I tell college kids this too,
if you want to work in anything in sports, it's
gonna be nights and weekends, that's right. Yeah, And that's
the hardest part of it, really, right, because it's hard
on a family, it is.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And so yeah, you get to the point where it's
just I mean, if you were to ask me in college, hey,
you're going to play in the NFL for fifteen years,
I would have I mean I would have laughed and
I said, I mean, that will be unbelievable what that happens.
But you know, I mean the chances, the percentages of
that happening is so slim, right, unbelievable. And so I've
(04:32):
been blessed for fifteen years and it's just just felt
like it was time to to hang him up and
just kind of see what the next chapter of life brings,
and more importantly, you know, just spending more time with
family and uh, you know, get the uh the coaching
hat on for for the kids.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So your son Bryce is thirteen, what sports is he
involved with?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
H he's he's doing flag football.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I got him into golf and so we're we're trying
to play golf a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
And honestly, you.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Know, we go we go over to the little course
there in Franklin, right right there by Legends, and I
love it because it's not a difficult course like it's
It always keeps him engaged, right and it's working on,
you know, parts of his game that he you know,
needs to work on, but just to be able to
walk and talk, you know, from hole to hole. It's
(05:27):
a lot of fun. And it's time that I just
want to cherish right now, you know, because when he's
got five years left, which seems like a lot, but
I mean, you know how fast things go, right and like,
and I just want to be able to to make
the most of those those years that I have left
with him before he goes off to college.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Any interest in punting or kicking.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, we fool around in the front yard. So he's
he's he's natural. He's got longer legs, so I think
that'll cater more towards punning. And I think he's a
little bit more interested in punning. But his thing is
he's growing so fast that his foot his foot size
is growing as well, and for the size football that
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they would kick, it's just kind of it's it's difficult
for him, but but it works out well for punting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
So yeah, I mean I give him.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I give him pointers here and there, and sometimes they're
taking well and other times it's the dad, come on,
like I got a dad.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I'm like, okay, welcome to being a dead right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I just hope I don't have to send him to
a camp to learn punting when you know, you know,
he's got a pretty good resource in his home. So
but we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So my neighborhood, I had my son out one day
and we were working on punting and at the time,
Craig hentricklifted in the back of my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That's good, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It was well, it was it was really great. So
so Craig comes by one day. Matthew's probably ten or eleven,
and Craig just pulls over. He says, show me one
and so he hits one. He's like, Okay, try this,
and it was something that I had just shown Matthew
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not five minutes before, which he of course had not
listened to at all. And Matthew did exactly what Craig
told him and then hit a spyroll that went you know,
twenty five or thirty yards, which was a really good kick.
And Craig gets back in the truck and says, okay,
see layer. Thanks, And so it was so Craig, it
was so underwhelming. He's like, hey, try I mean he
(07:34):
said like six words, right, but it was Craig Hentrick.
And so my son was like, that's Greg Hendrick. And
that was one of the neat things for my kids
growing up around the team is they have all these
pictures where Javon Kurse palmed their heads, you know, with
his massive hands. Albert Hainsworth had him in bear hugs,
(07:56):
and you know, Carrie Collins was doing stuff with him.
I mean, it's just what a what a blessed way
for them to to grow up so fun. I think
they thought everybody was.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Like that, right, Yeah, well, I mean that's you know,
when you know, for Bryce to be able to go
on the field after games or in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean he's you know in the Pro Bowl,
you know, playing catch with Lamar Jackson and it's you know,
mark Ingram's trying to trying to teach him a dance,
and you know, it's you know, being being able to
hang out with Mahomes and some of those guys and
just play catch with.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Them, and uh yeah, I mean it's it's been. It's
been a huge blessing.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I mean, you got, you know, kids that obviously look
up to Derrick Henry and you know, Kevin Buyer, some
of the you know, Jeffrey, the guys on the team
that are just phenomenal role models.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And I always tell people, you know, don't buy a
jersey unless of somebody, unless you know they're somebody that
you want to you know, have their last name that
you're representing. And uh, you know, thankfully the Titians have
a lot of those guys, right. But you know, but
Bryce and Derek are you know, buddies rights and so
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it's sometimes sometimes you got.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
To pinch yourself, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Sometimes even through my whole career, I've just been you know,
to go in when I was in Denver and John
Lynch was the locker across her mind, right, And I
just remember thinking, this is this is John Lynch, right,
and Brian Dawkins was, you know, two lockers down to.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The left Kriton.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, it's all throughout the years that the guys have
been able to play with and you know, to be
in a locker room with Randy Moss and you know,
that's it's been a huge blessing.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Who was the most excited guy? Who was the guy
you were most excited to me? Excited to me or
that floored you the most?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well, probably Randy, Yeah, because I had a Randy Moss
Vikings Jersey growing up, right and so and and I
remember I was on the verge of my agent and
the Titans were talking about an extension because I was
right on that that cusp of hey, we can get
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him locked up.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
For four years, three four years, maybe five whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It was that that that my agent the Titans were
talking to and uh, you know, it didn't happen for
two three weeks, and which is not the easiest thing
to do during the season. I definitely wouldn't recommend that
to any youngster out there, but uh, but the Titans
called my agent and said, hey, we're gonna have to
(10:49):
put this this deal on hold till after the season
because we're we're signing Randy Moss. And my agent calls
me and he tells me, and I remember being frustrated
for about five right, and then I thought, well, wait
a second, We're signing Randy Moss. This is somebody that
I've looked up to, you know, since I was in
high school when he came to the league and seeing
how he played.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And now I'm gonna be a teammate with Randy Moss.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
And so I was okay with that, and it ended
up being as advertised and.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Heck of a teammate. And there's always always like story.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Time by Randy's locker, you know, before practice, after practice,
you just tell stories. So it's uh, Randy Moss is
definitely that's definitely a tough one.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I got a call during a funeral that we were
signing in. I'm sitting in a funeral. Wow. And I
don't usually bring my phone into things like that, Right,
You're always afraid your.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Phone as much as you try to how many times
you check too, right?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't bring it into church, and I
try not to bring it into like weddings or funerals
or anything, right, cool performance or anything important. Right, So
I had it in my coat and I didn't realize it,
and then it was just like buzzing. And this was
twenty ten, right, and so the buzz wasn't terribly subtle
at that time. It's like, you know, and so it
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wasn't ringing, but it just kept going off. And so
I'm sitting there and and of course I'm not answering it,
but it just keeps going off. And then we're in
like the receiving line to give condolences and get up
to the folks, and it's umb like, oh gosh, this
(12:37):
is so embarrassing. It's so I get outside and you
know they've you know, I could have gotten a text
message at the time, but everybody at that point still called.
It's like nobody calls on the phone anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Now was that still?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Now?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That wasn't When did it switch? Where your text messaging?
Because I remember you had to pay like five.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
To you did you did?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
This is twenty ten, So but we're in that spot
where later we're so I walk outside, I tell my wife,
I said, I got to go outside and to see
what this is. And so I listened to the voicemail
We're signing Randy Moss, and we had to do a
live hit. I'm standing in the parking lot under an underhang,
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it's pouring rain, and I'm doing an interview because this
is a huge deal. It's Randy Moss. And you know,
at that point in the twenty ten season, we're still
in it. Yeah, you know, because that was the year
we started five and two and then ended up six
and ten and everything kind of went crazy down the stretch.
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But we added him and you're thinking, Okay, this is
going to be great. And he was so different than
when he was being recruited. He's one of the most
bizarre recruits recovered. And I didn't have the primary role
for my for the radio station. Another friend of mine,
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Brent Hubbs, dealt with him more. But he was bizarre,
just completely baffling, and I think, now, maybe he was
just messing with people, Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah,
But then he ends up being almost positively delightful what
he was here. And then you know, he's great on TV.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
He's great on TV.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, and we still I mean, you know, I took
Bryce down to the Super Bowl when Ryan Sucker was
playing in it, and we drove out you know because
Matt hasseback is on that the countdown as well. Yeah,
so we I was texting Matt he said, hey, come
out to the to the beach, that's where we're at.
And so we drove out there and got to see
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the set and uh, you know, anytime I see Randy
he's always been uh so nice and friendly and smart man.
Smart guy, Yeah, very smart and yeah, he's it was
fun to be around it. I wish it was for longer.
But yeah, what a what a teammate.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You ever counted up how many different teammates you had?
You know?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
My wife thought, uh, you know, playing with with FITZI
you know what he did, Remember how he listed every
teammate that he played with, and and I thought about
doing that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I just didn't. I just didn't know where to start.
I didn't know where to start.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
But it's a lot, it's a lot of really good
guys that I've been able to play with, a lot
of guys I've been able to get close with.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Where does Ryan Fitzpatrick rank on your list of characters that.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You Yeah, he's in that. Uh, Matt Castle Ryan Fitzpatrick.
It's like this this category of guys that are just
they're smart, uh, very witty and.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Extremely funny and quick like Ryan was. His humor is
it's quick. Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And so you felt like if you got into some
type of I don't want to say argument, but you
know the jabs right that happened in the locker room,
you were gonna win because he was so quick and
witty with it. That had just left you kind of
and I don't I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
How to respond to that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I don't know what to say while you're while you're
laughing hysterically as he made fun of you.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Right, But you rank Matt Castle in there too, Yeah,
Matt's up there.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I wouldn't have thought of that.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well he's certainly a bright guy who had a really
good career too.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
He played for a really long time too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I've I've been I've been really fortunate, blessed with that row,
you know, that kind of that quarterback row that I've
been a part of, uh, you know, with with Marcus
and uh, you know, Marcus is.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know, one of my favorite teammates I've ever played with.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
But that some of those quarterbacks that have come through
have been I shoot, I remember being next to Carrie
Collins and how awesome he was to be around. And
you know, I had Craig on one side and Carrie
on the other side. And and you know, after I
got cut in Denver, to be able to come here
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and to have those two guys Craig to your left
and and Carrie on your right, was I mean that
alone right there helped me kind of recover and bounce
back from you know, from getting cut and those two guys.
To be around those two guys for as young as
I was, and to be able to pick their brain
and talk and what's like what you said earlier, Craig,
it was just he would come out to practice and
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you know, I'd hit three or four balls in a
row that I didn't like, and he would just say, hey,
why don't you, hey, move your drop inside an itch.
You know he's back there, and I'm thinking, I didn't
even know he was really paying attention that much. And okay, yeah,
you got it. Craig and I do it man four
in a row, five in a row, and I would
look back at Craig would be gone, he'd be headed
back to the training room just you know, he didn't
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say much, but you know his advice was.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It was just so on the point.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
But he never wanted anything, No, he didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
He just wanted to give his opinion and what he
thought and he.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Was right and off he went.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
He you know, he didn't need the attention, he didn't
need they thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean he would he would stop you before he
even got started to compliment him.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
How lucky was Rob Baroni's that he had Craig Hendrick
when he made the Titans, when he became an NFL kicker.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, I you know, I've had a lot of conversations
with guys over over the years that I played, and
you know, with kickers, and just how important holding is
and how important you know your your holder is as
a person because the things, the things that you say,
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you're kind of like, you know, suck up. And I
always used to talk about like, I mean, he's the golfer,
right and right, and the holder is the caddy.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Right, the golfer is the one that's going to get
all the attention. Look at that.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Shot, Look what you did, But the work kind of
leading up to it you know the caddy is just
as important, right, sure, So.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
It's great in golf. Now they are giving us those
conversations more on TV. Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It is fascinating and just to see really how much
detail goes into every shot.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
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Speaker 3 (20:16):
Because there's I mean, there's so much. It's such a finite,
you know, a shot here or there. I mean it's
just like a football game, right to play here and
play there. Can cast you a ballgame, well, you know,
a shot here, shot there, throughout a.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Tournament, and you know, you go from.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Winning a tournament to you know, now you're now you're
not even top ten and and all that kind of
stuff that goes along with it. But yeah, I mean
for for Rob to have Craig not only as a person,
right for Rob coming in the league. Anytime you can
get just a veteran leader, and I know there's a
couple of times here, you know in Tennessee where we
had some young guys in that would you know, they're
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gonna battle it out. They're gonna let them, you know,
battle out to see who can do it right. And
you know, I just felt like it was part of
my responsibility to help them out mentally and really take
a lot of the pressure off of them, you know,
as far as holding, like, hey, I'm going to be
as consistent as I can be, and I'm going to
help you out as much as I can so that
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you don't even have to think about all that, because
there are there are times where you know the holding
is not great, and sometimes you get a veteran kicker
that gets a young punter in there and they don't
understand the finite details.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Well, then that's something else that the kicker now has
to think about, right on top of everything else that's
going on.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And if you can just go out there and just
know just hey, all I have to worry about is
just kicking it through these yellow things, right and getting
three points or an extra point, it makes their job
a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So when you were suck ups Caddy at Kansas City
at twenty sixteen, when he hit the kick at the
end of the ball game, So what are you telling
him leading up to that? I've always wanted to know that.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, I mean it's the hard part. Was is that
in warm ups, I don't know if Ryan got past
forty two?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
He did, right, Yeah, So I thought I had him
because I watch to get engage. I thought I had
him at like forty seven, maybe barely kind of sort of.
I mean he went anywhere near.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Fifty, right, because Dustin and I I remember Dustin Colquitt
and I talked to warm ups and punting that I
don't think I got a ball over forty five rude, right,
And he hit one that was fifty, but it was
I mean, nothing looked like an Aaron Rodgers Kilbarry. It
didn't even you know, barely got off the ground. And
so so I remember Ryan and the warm ups and
he was just he's like he's like, Bret, I think
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an extra points even gonna be, you know, a call.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Task in this game. And because the ball, I mean
it was so cold and that ball was so hard
that the sweet spot just shrunk and you had to
hit it perfectly on top of your body.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Just you know, you can only be by the heater
so much because if you're by the heater then all
of a sudden, your muscles are staying really really lose,
and then when you go to the cold, it's.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Just it's not it's not great.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But I just remember us talking, and you know the
thing is is, you know, you get that far back,
you know, to get a little extra distance, sometimes you
can lean the ball forward, right, but in doing that,
it lowers your trajectory, and so there's kind of a
finite the detail of what's too much, what's not enough.
I mean, if you want to hold it straight up
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and down, you know, So we kind of had that
conversation and you know, if anything, we just we just
kind of kept it a little bit straighter than normal
for him, just so he can maybe get a little
bit more of a draw to maybe try to get
an extra rd or two. And I just remember jogging
out there thinking, how I cannot believe we're attempting this thing,
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but we have no other option, no, right, So he
got that first crack at it, and it was short,
barely I don't you know. From my view, it looked
like he barely missed it. I'm not sure what your
view was, but.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I'll tell you this. It was apparent when he hit
it wasn't gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Have enough, Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I mean you could sometimes you can see from where
we are right and where our booth was a great angle.
We were closer to that yard line than the other
side of the field, right. And so when it came
off his foot and Andy Reid had called the time out,
You're like, well, did he not hit it as hard
(24:35):
as he could because of the time out? Or I
think he took a full swing though, didn't he?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
I think he did too. But I also know I
know with Ryan that he really really goes after it.
He tends to hook it and he'll miss it left.
And so I think there was in his mind, Okay,
I know, I have to go after this really hard.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
But if I do, you know what, I at least
want to.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Give it a chance, right, And so I mean he
he gave it all he had and it was straight
as an arrow, and then they called the time out
and I just remember him bending over and retying his
kicking chew and he's like, well, he's well, I better
get this all I got. I said, Ryan, you better,
you better get this all you got, buddy. And then
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the next one he just he smoked it and it
went in and he went right to the chief's bench
to celebrate.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I'm not sure if that was kind of a hey,
you know, I played here for a long time. This
is you know, he's had some.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Game winners before in chief uniforms, right, But or if
it was more or less like you know, we called
him the Chief Killer.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
He did it because that's what he that's what he does.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I remember his first game as a Titan, opened up
an arrowhead and he went like four four, five for five, right,
and you know we won the game.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
The rest of that season is something not to talk about.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
But you know when he started one, started one and
oh he's Chief Killer and he did it in the
Super Bowl. He did it in twenty sixteen, and that's
that's something I'll never.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Never, ever forget.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
One of my favorite guys I ever covered, Bryan Suckham. Yeah,
quality human being, one of the nicest guys you'll meet,
I mean, but a true professional. Talk to you after
he hit him, talk to you after he missed him.
Understood everybody had a job to do. One of my
big thrills was getting to see him when we practiced
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against Tampa in twenty twenty one down there and to
just congratulate him on being a Super Bowl champion. You
know those guys who go other places. I mean, we
certainly want to win one desperately, right, but you're happy
for those people who do it the right way.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And that's h.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I think that's why you know, Bryce and I drove
down there is I just didn't want to miss that.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, he's.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We were brought together through football, but obviously we're brothers,
you know, for life outside of that. That's something that
you want to be there for.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So I was.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Excited for him to win a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
And I remember the conversation that we had his training
camp and he was like he was down in Tampa.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He's like, man, I got this workout down here.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I just don't know. I just don't know if I
should do it. I don't know if you should sign here.
And it's like, dude, you're with Tom Brady, Like you
got a chance. I mean, what do you what do
you have to lose?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So, and so that's worked out worked.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Out well for him.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah he did Okay, Yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Did heck of her career because one of the most
accurate guys that I've seen. He'd be one of those
guys where you tell him forty yards you know, I
want you to aim and hit this crossbar or this
field goal post.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Every time.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
He's gonna he's gonna hit it. So sometimes it almost
became boring. It was just so straight and just down
the middle. And he's like, why why are we even
ran Like you're gonna put it right down the middle
every time?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Can we just can we just move on and do
something else?
Speaker 1 (28:05):
But were you surprised he came to your retirement announcement?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah, I mean, we're I was just thankful that he
was able to come. I knew he was I knew
if he could come that he was gonna be there,
you know, for Bo to fly in obviously Morgan to come.
You know, they've met a lot because those those three
guys right there are you know, my my favorite teammates
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really have altership and guys that I've gotten they're they're
guys that are they're just more than teammates, you know,
hang out his families and we're just we're just close.
And so for the three of them to be there,
you know, it meant a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
What you probably by the way that they couldn't have
gone any better.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, you I see, you're not the sling anymore either,
which is healthy. You're healthy, healthy, training staff got you,
got it going, got.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
You through, good rehair, gotta be ready for Hey. Availability, availability,
that's what they say. That's that's what the you know,
you walk into the training room and that's the best
the best availability is Hey, we we lived that too.
I mean, when you get the opportunity to work for
an NFL team, you know, there aren't a lot of
people that are lucky enough to get to do that,
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So yeah, you don't miss stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Availability is the best, the ability, I.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Think that's what it says.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of scenes up
in the building.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I haven't written down in a notebook I do because
you never you never know, or you never knew when
Frabel was gonna either show a teammate on the board
and ask, hey, who's who's this teammate?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
And of course it was great because it was like
a high school throwback or a college throwback, and it
was it was pretty use. Yeah, you know, Stretch would
find these pictures that were just gold. Right, But you
never knew when he was gonna ask a question of
what does it say in the training room or what
does it say outside the locker room? Line for right?
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And there might be five lines, and you have what's
line for well. I think I had one, two and
three memorized, but four and five were a little sketching.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yes, So I just remember.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
When he came.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
When he came in twenty eighteen, he started doing that
and I just thought to myself, I better go around
the building and write this stuff. Now.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I don't know if he'll ever call me right. I
went through Rotadel down and I think I still have
the notebook in my office at the house.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
And that's so Greaty.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Nerves, you got nervous during team meetings. Yeah, Like I
started special teams meetings totally fine.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I was obviously.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I knew all the calls, I knew all the returns,
all that kind of stuff, right, But you know team
meetings is when you started, you know, hands got a
little cold, started to sweat a little bit because I
mean you just did not know what he was gonna ask.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So, I mean you played for all of the Titans
head coaches. Fisher, I did, mind check, yeah, to wizen Hunt,
to Malarkey and out.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Of right, yeah I did. And it was each one
was you know, I kind of learned from from each
one kind of you know, the how they're how they taught,
how they their expectations, you know, kind of for each
coach you played for, you knew like when the next
(31:52):
one came up, kind of what to expect and different
situations styles that they liked. Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And it was hard.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I mean every time you got a new coach, you know,
you feel you have to you have to prove yourself
to somebody that you don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
My check was was a little bit easier because he
was under coach phisial staff, right, and so he'd seen you,
you know, he'd seen a lot of the guys that
were there. He saw me play before all that. But
you still have to still have to prove yourself, right,
You have to prove yourself every year, regardless if you
make a Pro Bowl or you know, obviously you maybe
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maybe you don't have a great year.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
And so.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Because I remember twenty sixteen year was I mean, I
didn't have a great year. It wasn't wasn't hit the
ball great, wasn't as consistent as consistent as I wanted to.
And I knew twenty seventeen had to be a really,
really good year, and thankfully it was, you know, the
first Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I went to.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
But wut it's good.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It was a good bounce back.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yere right, But yeah, every time you get a new coach,
new GM, there's just that extra pressure to perform for
somebody that you don't I don't I don't know who
Ken Wizen it was.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I knew that he'd coached, but you know, he doesn't
know me. I don't know him.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
You have to go out there and improve yourself and
that could take that could take a lot out of
you mentally and physically. And uh, you know, I remember
us chatting on the on the podcast you know, kind
of about the biggest accomplishment, and I think to be
able to play for all the gms, all the coaches
that the types have had, Yeah, that's probably been my
(33:34):
biggest Yeah, that's probably the thing I'm probably most proud of.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Get that. What do you remember about when they let
wizend Hunt go at Malarkey but he came the head coach.
What do you remember about that week?
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I'm trying to remember what game he got? Was it
after the Texans?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Because I give it set up on that So Jimmy
Stanton is our director of mediate res or is over
all of our communications at the time, right, and we
had wondered if if we lose this game, do they
make a change because it was in Houston's.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It's there's something about, well, well something about going to
Houston though, Like I remember Coach Fisher and Coach Munch
really preaching about and we're going to Houston.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Do you know what this means?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, dark, I don't know. Every player needs to understand that.
To our ownership, the Houston game is significant. We played
particularly poorly in that game. Marcus took a beating.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
YEP.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
So Jimmy gets on the plane and since his seat
is next to mine, and I said, so, what do
you think He goes, he gayes, I don't think any
decisions been made. So normally, if you're going to fire
a coach in season, you fire the coach on Monday,
right and they you know, we get to Monday and
I walked by Jimmy's office Monday morning. He goes, I'm
not hearing anything. And the reason we're talking about it
(35:02):
is we have TV shows to do.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's the radio show.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, you got a lot, but the Monday
night radio shows one thing. But we have to put
out TV shows for later in the week, and we
have to shoot them early in the week because if
we're in a situation where somebody's going to get fired,
you don't want to send out a show with somebody
in the show who's not there by the time the
(35:28):
show airs. So we're going to film Titans All Access
Monday afternoon. And I looked at Jimmy again. He goes,
he said, I think there's some talk, but he goes,
I don't know. And so we go film the show. Well,
Rustin Webster is our general manager, and we do this
(35:51):
late Monday afternoon, five o'clock and we film his segment
and he says, walk outside with me here for a
second week. Okay, the segment was great. I was hoping
I didn't ask a question that he didn't like, right,
He said, I just got the call before I walked
in here. We're making a change first thing in the morning,
(36:13):
and ownership. Amy Adamstrong wanted to take the day to
not be emotional because of the Houston game and to
take but it says a lot about who she is,
you know, because she knew she she knew she wasn't
making the decision for the New Orleans game that Sunday,
(36:35):
she was making a decision for the whole franchise, right,
And he said, we are. We're making a change first
thing in the morning. He said, I just wanted you
to know that. So I have to walk back in
and film the rest of this show that I know
is not gonna air, that we're gonna have to go
back and reshoot it. And I can't tell anybody, because
(36:58):
you know, that's that's one of the areas, right. I
very rarely know things because honestly, Brett, I don't ask.
It's easier not to know because when somebody asks you
you can say truthfully, right, I don't know because I'm
not interested in lying to anybody.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
And so Tuesday morning comes down and they call wizen
Hunt in at eight o'clock and he's fired then, and
we think it's gonna be malarkey as the interim coach,
but quite frankly, if you don't know if he's gonna
take it.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
So then you pick up the story from there from
the players perspective.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
You know, like I said earlier about the Houston, like,
you know, obviously, you know you have to perform every
Sunday that that's just part of your job.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
But there's something extra when you go down to Houston.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
This and I really didn't understand it the first year
or two, and then it finally you know, it's like, yeah,
this is this is a very very important game. It's
a thing regardless of what your record is, like, this
is important. And so and we lost bad, really bad,
(38:16):
and so guys were kind of talking like.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Do is there gonna be a change? Do we need
to make a change?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh? You thought that was possible at that point?
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, okay, yeah, Because I mean I remember coach Fisher
and Coach Munchek. They would always talk about, hey, if
we don't if we don't perform down here in Houston,
there's gonna be a change made in some way, shape
or form, right right, So you didn't know, probably not
coaching maybe, but whoever maybe didn't play well, whoever to
(38:45):
perform like, you're probably gonna get cut, right, And so
the guys that have been there, that had been through
the transition, they understood that.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And so guys thought, well, it could be some play.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You know, things with with coach Whiz aren't really going
how we thought they would or how how they probably should.
That's pretty crazy to make a change right now. There's
just all kinds of thoughts. And then nothing happened Monday,
and then we just.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, well let's let's just keep plugging along.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Because you're in the building Monday, you're working out, you're
doing all kinds of things for post game recovery and
all that, and you don't really hear anything. And so
for it to go down Tuesday, it was it's like, wow, okay,
so who on the staff can take over? And I
remember texting some guys and they were like, man.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I hope it's coach Blarkie. Who's coach ble ARKI I
think he would.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
He's got experience, you know, I like I kind of
like the way he conducts things, and you know, talk
to the tight ends and they were all likely.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
I really hope it's him, right, So, uh found out
it was him, and.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
You know, to come back the following week, you know,
and win how we did in overtime in New Orleans?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Right? Uh was it Fasano anthy? That was that?
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I remember celebrating and uh, I remember going down to
the end zone celebrating and it got a little too
crowded for me because I remember thinking, if someone steps
on my foot, I'm in trouble. So I did a
couple of helmet taps and I remember just getting.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Out of there quickly.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
So, but yeah, that's that's not an easy thing to
go through coaching changes like that.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
So, uh, it just.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Puts there's already enough pressure to perform and to do
your job. Uh, you know every Sunday and when you
throw on a coaching change, and you know that there's
a little instab instability kind of going on, and and
if you're willing to make a change with a head coach, right,
you know, what does that tell you for the players,
And so yeah, that was that. That was a tough here.
(40:55):
That was that was a tough, tough season.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Thanks so much to Brett Kerr for taking time with
me to go to Jiffy Berger in Manchester and to
share some good stories in the truck as he followed
me through Tennessee. Remind you that seat geek is now
the official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. Whether you're
buying or selling tickets to Titans games or any other
live event in Nashville, seat geek is the place to
(41:19):
do it. Seat Geek the new official ticketing partner of
the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fans, Ken Fan again, thanking
Brett Kern and our entire staff, and thanking you the
OT people, while wishing you happy New Year. I'm Mike Keith.
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