March 26, 2025 • 31 mins
Amie Wells and Titans Radio's Rhett Bryan join forces to get to the bottom of what some of Coach Mac's phrases really mean on this edition of the OTP.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is the OTP. I'm Amy Wells. Thank you so
much for joining us. We are joined by coach mac
Rett Brian, our resident draft gurus. And I was thinking,
you guys, as we are getting closer and closer to
the draft, we are going to start doing a lot
more position previews, starting to really dive into who these
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players are, what they look like, both on and off
the field. And it occurred to me that we use
a lot of very interesting, very specific language to describe
people throughout the draft. There's a lot of terminology, there's
a lot of phrases, there's a lot of maybe comparisons
or analogies that we use that you pretty much never
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ever used to describe a human in polite conversation, don't,
and so you just don't. And nobody in the world
does it better than coach Mac. Mac has the best
just vocabulary of descriptive terms and phrases. So I figured
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we should all get together here for the ot people
so that they are prepared for all of the draft
coverage that is to come. And let's define some of
these macisms. Let's really get into what these things mean.
Are you down, Mac, Yeah, I mean it's plain English.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I don't know that it is. It's completely plain English.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
There's plain English involved with the English words, right, And
I know what Max saying. It's with the way things
are described by people in football evaluation that describe what
a player is. But then there's also West Texas coach
Dave McGinnis flavors on his own lingo.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
In which again we speak English in West Texas. Rat. Yes,
I would just talking about talking to Amy about goat roping.
She says she's never been to a goat roping and
a rattlesnake round up. I'm gonna have to take her
to West Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We're just trying to get people to understand Mac. Ease, Yes,
that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yes, So I have prepared a list of common mac phrases.
It is alphabetized for your convenience. And I say, we
just go back and forth and get Mac to describe
what these words. Give us a definition of what these
words and phrases.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Mean, just like he would do a thumb nail description
of a player exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yep, all right, Mac, are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Sure, let's go. I like this.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So if somebody is a good anchor, what does.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That mean you're talking about somebody basically on the offensive
from the defensive front. And an anchor means when you're
getting to charge ahead of you that you can set
your feet and you can hold your ground. You can
hold your ground and you can reset. Now the way
that they do that, some people do anchor just by
pure mass. Some people do anchor by the ability of
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their lower body to have explosion and extension. But the
anchor part comes with its lower body strength, but it's
also lower body strength being able to hold your position,
whether it's offensively or defensively, and most of it's on
the front. Now, it can involve linebackers. When you call
about set the edge, I don't know if you have
set the edge in there in pure English. But you've
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got to be able. You've got to be able to
hold your ground. And that's why at the combine they
measure the broad jump and they measure the vertical jump
because that's the lower body flex and that's a lower
body power.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Gosh, I'm so glad we're doing this. Raret take the
next one.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
When a player has bend or lean.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Bend or lean, and most of the band starts from
the knees, down. And it also when you're looking for
players that are either going to have to turn the
edge or you're looking you're looking for players that are
going to have to change direction. It's not only the
bend at the at the in the in the knees,
and you've got to have you've got to have an
athletic bend at the knees. It's also the flex of
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the ankles. The flex of the ankles. The ankles are
extremely important because Jerrell Casey is a grit for for
all of O T people. That was one of Jerrell
Casey's biggest attributes, huge attribute because Jerrell Casey, you know,
height wise, did was not you know the measure that
you you look at when you when Jerrell Casey was
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just you know when you first came out of school,
if you just saw him in street clothes, you'd say, well,
you know this is a big guy, but he's not.
But his lower body flex, especially his ankle flex was
was elite. He could, he could, he could he could
flatten out quickly. If I'm coming this way and Rhett
is a quarterback here at his launch point. The lower
body flex for these guys that they've got to be
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able to turn and to and to get to where
the quarterback is is huge. It also helps some change
direction in a short area. So that's what flex is.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So sometimes you refer to that as a motorcycle lien.
Is that the same kind of concept where they're able
to bend in like their ankles.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Now, see now you're talking, you're talking it. The motorcycle
liane though, is off of the edge motorcycle lean. If
you ever watched a motorcycle race, when they when they
race motorcycles, they always when they're turning making the curve,
they bend and that's why they've got those pads on
their on their inside on their inside legs. They put
that down and so that they can cut all the
wind resistance around the curve and still stay on their
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line and be able to hold their lane. It's it's
a lot like a runner, you know running you know
in the four hundred meters that have to run the curve.
You've got guys that are great relay runners, that are
that are the stretch runners, and then you've got guys
that can that can run the curve, can lean the
curve without losing forward momentum, but also without without losing
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any speed. The motorcycle bend for edge is a huge
thing that that is something that you look for and
a lot of that is God given that motorcycle lean.
When you go to the combine or you're watching the
combine on television, when they run that figure eight hoop
drill and lay the towels down, you might wonder, how
does that relate. I mean, Jim Washburn, who was a
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longtime defensive line coach here, was the guy that put
that into the combine drills. He put it into the
combine drills because that's what he wanted to see. Not
only could a guy run the hoop, but he put
the towel into it where he had they had to
reach down and bend because that's where the lien came in.
And it was a great, great innovation by Jim Washburn
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because then you not only could see I mean, it's
easy to run the hoop straight up and down, but
you're never straight up and down when you're running the
edge to go after a quarterback. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's interesting, and I mean it seems like that's one
of the drills that you can see very clearly now
understanding that, oh that's why they do that. That makes
a lot of sense. It's very transferable to football. Okay,
another one, when you say that somebody looks like a
dog or worse, a puppy in traffic.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, well, first of all, there's a difference. Okay a dog.
A dog is a dude that no matter what is happening,
they're imposing their will. That's a dog. Now someone that
looks like you just set a puppy out of a
car in the middle of a freeway.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Glad no animals were harmed in the filming of this OTP.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And there's nobody there's nobody that loves dogs more than
I do. But if you've ever and again I mean
I'd been in the country with a lot of dogs
in the back of a pickup, which you can't do
in the city, but we used to do all the time,
and that dog, ever either jumped out when the truck
was moving or they fell out, which happened a lot,
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you know, because they'd like to run around, and they
chased the car coming the other way, and then they
run out of runway and go out the back. The
first thing they start doing is just spinning because they
don't know where they are and if cars are coming,
then they're just they're they're they're spinning without going anywhere.
That's what I talk about when you look at you
look at players, that they're their spatial awareness of what's
happening on the field. They're they're disoriented, they're lost, they're lost,
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they just can't find their way.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
When a player is fluid, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The two things that you don't want in your description
as a player. You don't want timid and you don't
want stiff, because this game is played in short burst.
It's short, violent, quick burst. And if you're fluid, if
you can transition from start to stop and you don't
have a lot of wasted motion when you're changing direction,
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you don't have a lot of wasted motion. If you're ever,
if you're ever having to to to transition like a
defensive back from back to up. If the the lack
of wasted motion, then someone has fluidity. In other words,
they're flowing, they're flowing through the process, whatever it may be.
If you're stiff or if you're segmented. I don't know
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if you have segmented down there, but segmented means it
takes you a while. I mean, it's like you're grinding coffee.
It takes you a while to get started one way
or the other. I mean, you know, if you say,
if I'm they're sitting there watching tape with you, Amy,
and I go, that guy's grinding a lot of coffee
right there, you know, it means you know, it's really hard.
It's hard to make that movement. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
That's a good one. What about foot or horseback?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
All right? For the horseback is this and and this
is something that's really that's really easy. You're either riding
the horse and you know where you're going, or you've
gotten thrown off and you're walking. Okay, So if you
don't know whether you're foot no horseback, you're completely lost.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
One.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
People have heard you for years talk about a player
that is a gidget gadget player. What is a gidget
gadget player?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Gidget gadget are mostly smaller players. Smaller players that can
move really really quick in a short area. They may
not have the requisite size that goes with the position.
They may not have the requisite strength that goes with
the position, but they are so quick and and and
they they can move from one place to the other.
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And now mostly when you talk about gidget gadget dudes,
you're either talking about receivers because they you're talking about
players that operate in space, but you're also talking about
players that can snap ankles, in other words, make the
defender think they're going one way and snap them off.
And that's just you know that that is being that's
a gidget gadget dude. That is a short area quick
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elite player.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
What if somebody has a good GPS to the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, GPS, I mean we've all figured you know, that
just means you know where you're going. You can you
can you know where you're going your zero rode in
on the ball, you can track in. It's just like
putting in the GPS on your car when you're getting
ready to go on a trip. It tells you exactly
where you're going. You don't even have to think about it.
A GPS player doesn't have to think about it. He's
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always going to the right spot. And most of the
time you're talking about a defensive player because what they
have to do is find the football. Some guys can
play football on defense, but have a hard time finding
it now, that can happen. That can happen in a
lot of different positions. Whether a defensive lineman is coming
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off a block, Now, how quick can he find the ball?
How's his GPS? How quick can a linebacker transition from
a run to a pass? How can he find the
ball or find the route that he's getting ready to
get under for a throw? Or if you're a defensive back,
how can you find the ball once it's thrown in
the air. All of that you got to have a
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good GPS for that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
When people hear you say that a player is high hipped,
what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
People are cut differently from the waist down. They're just
cut differently. Okay, a high hip guy has got longer legs. Now,
So when you've got longer legs and you're high hipped
most of the time, most of the time, you're gonna
have to you're gonna have to be able to have
some of that lower body flex, are you, Because if
you're a high hipped guy that doesn't have much flex,
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then it's like you're playing on stilts. In other words,
you know, it takes you a while to get moving.
The high hips aren't a problem if they're involved with
some flex that we talk about and the bend in
the knees and in the ankles. If you're a high
hipped guy that is stiff, you got.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
A problem, all right, Mac. This is one that you
say over and over and over again, and that is,
do not be an I E. What is an I E.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
We're sitting there watching tape, the three of us together,
and we watched three plays and Rett says, God, that
guy can play. I really like that guy. That guy
can play. Just watch after three plays and then you say, Rett,
don't be an ie. Let's watch this all the way through.
Keep our powder dry until we've watched everything that he's done.
An IE is the most dangerous thing in the world
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that you can be. Is an instant evaluator? Is an
instant evaluators? What an IE is? And a lot of
the stuff that that the OT people, A lot of
this stuff that you're hearing now pre draft with. I mean,
it's a cottage industry. You got a lot of IE
stuff going.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
On, making declarative statements about players. Yeah, is the best
running back to come out since his Ekal Well, maybe
he is. We don't I don't think we know that
right now.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It takes research and I E. I mean I was
told that very very young because I just wanted to talk.
I wanted to sound like I knew what I was
talking about. And that was like shut up, okay, don't
be an I E.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And you took it to heart and you lived.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I'm just trying to just trying to help.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
What about what about a player that has long levers arms?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Keith Bullock? Think of Keith Bullock for all of our
for all of our people. One of his greatest asset
was I mean, he was a he was a long
levered They're arms. That's why they measure arm links at
the combine people. Why are they measured arm links? And
why are they measuring wingspan? Again, you're working in short
area quick areas, and so the long the longer your
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levers are. As an saying, offensive for a defensive lineman
because game is played about separation. If you're an offensive lineman,
you want the defensive players off of you. If you're
a defensive player, you want to be able to to
to engage and and shed shock and shed. The longer
your levers are, the better chance that you have to
be able to do that. And again when the balls
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in the air, you're you're long levered receivers. These combat catches.
You can have a defensive back that may have exceptionally
long arms. May not be hype wise for tall, but
if he has long levers, then he can contest the
high throws, or can contest the throws inside wrap around
the body without grabbing, without interfering. It's it's it's a
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great attribute to have and some players it has nothing
to do with height. It has to do with winkspan.
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to the OTP. We're getting Coach Mack to define some
of his better machisms, I think, and we're also learning
a lot about players, player evaluation and why certain attributes
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are so important, but the descriptors are just I mean beautiful.
This one's a really strong one. Oily hips. What are
oily hips?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
All right? Think about it. You're running your car engine, Okay,
if it runs out of oil, how does it run?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Not good?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, not good? Not good. I know you've probably done
this before. Let your car. Let your car run out
of oil.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, well I know you have, so I'll just let
the OT people know that. So if you don't have
oil in your engine, it locks up, It locks up,
and it can't move. And then let's go back to
grinding coffee. Let's go back to That's what happens if
you've got If you've got oily hips, your movement is fluid.
You've got you've got good movement, and changing direction has
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a lot to do with your hips. If you're stiff
in the hips, I mean, look, if you get out
there on the dance floor and you're dressed good and
you look good, but you're all of a sudden, the
music starts and you look you look like bobble Head
out there bouncing back and forth, and your and your
your hips aren't moving not good, not good.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So oily hips are good, really good. You want oily.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Heads, you want you want oil in your engine.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You want oil in your engine.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They want the football field and the dance floor. According
to coach, yeah, you want oily hips.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
If you're never seen anybody win dancing with the stars
that doesn't have oily hips, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
True, that's true.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
True. What about a player that you say is more
quick than fast.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, there's a difference. There's you know, short area quickness
and long speed. That's another term that you'll hear are
different things. Short area quicks. That's why they measure. That's
why they measure the twenty yards shuttle. That's why you
know a lot of times it's not the forty that
they look at for certain positions scouts do. It's the
ten split. How quick can you go from here to there?
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It's it's so much why the wave drill, the shuffle
drill is so important. It's why the three cone drill.
That see Old Ricado, who is an oilers entight legend
in the in the draft. He's got the draft room
named after him. That's why he invented the three cone
drill to be able to change directions in a short
in a short area, to be able to go forward,
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to be able to go right, to be able to
go left. That it's it's extremely, extremely important. The game
of football at the highest level, at all levels, is
played in short areas. Very seldom is it. Is it
played linear for a long way. You're you're I mean,
the thing that everybody oozing os over are the long
the long throws, the long runs, the long catches. But
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when you really watch the greater percentage of the game,
it's short area, violent, quick burst. That's why it's so important.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
All right, Well, let's break this down then. What is
short area quickness? Like what it's just us space.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
We're working, we're working right here. How fast does it
take me to get from there and back to here,
from me to you, from me to you? Just think,
think about the space that any body he plays in,
not only across the line of scrimmage, behind the ball.
When the ball is snapped, you've got up to two
and a half seconds to react to anything that's thrown,
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but you have less than that to be able to
react to a five to seven yard area. So your
short area quicks are huge. If it takes you a
long time to unwind your clock and to get moving.
You're behind, you're behind. That's what it is. It's those
runners that have the best start. It's the best start.
But in football it's start and stop because you don't
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just start and just run. It's starting to stop, change direction.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So what you're saying is in some position groups, that
ten yard split or the first ten of the forty
yard dash they run is more important than the forty yards.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Absolutely, offensive lineman, defensive linemen. It's extremely important. For linebackers.
That's that's huge. It's just it's short area quickness because
the game is played in short, violent burst.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
All right, we've heard this term for years and it's
I think it sounds like what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And he scratched them off.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I am.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
We gows you're pressing.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
You know what impresses me or not not impresses me.
It kind of humbles me that y'all been listening all
these years.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Would we try?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I mean, what do you mean we interact with you
every day?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, well, you know sometimes I wonder, all right, go ahead,
what we have heard this draft term for for forever?
What is a tweener?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's when your position you're not quite sure because of
the measurements of size, height, and weight for positions pretty
much fall within categories, and if somebody is in between
those categories, it is somebody a true defensive end in
a four to three, whether their hands on the ground,
or are they a stand up linebacker outside in a
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in a in a three four defense? Sometimes are they
are they in between? A lot of times that's happening
now the way the game has has is being played
in space. It's the difference now between what we used
to term a strong safety, a guy that was down
plane in the box closer to the line of scrimmage,
or an open side will linebacker, because a lot of
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those jobs now have become meshed because of the way
offenses are played. And so it's a size differentiation when
you're talking about this guy may not have the categorical
size for this position, but his attributes allow him to
play that position because of some compensating factor.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So it's like the aforementioned Keith Bullock who moved from
safety to linebacker, and the current guy that is a
linebacker here the seventh round pick from Miami last year,
James Williams, number fifty two.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Great example threet one hundred percent. It's a one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What if a guy is willing to throw his face
in the brier patch.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
This guy seeks contact because this is not a collision sport.
This is a violent sport. It's not just natural to
human nature to want to throw yourself into something. Now,
if you've ever seen a patch and you want to
throw your face in the briar patch, there's a lot
of stuff that could happen to you. Yeah, and some
of it doesn't feel good. Some guys have a little
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or no disregard for their bodies. They are willing to
they're willing to throw it in there, in other words,
And so if somebody is willing time after time after time, naturally,
in other words, there is no there is no heasy
in their movement. They're not saying, oh, that looks like
a collision maybe, oh not, oh no, please, No, they're
willing to throw their face in the fire, and they're
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willing to go. I mean, it's like a fireman and
those people, those guys that run into the fire, even
though you know it's it's something that's very dangerous. Throwing
your face in the briar patch as a football player
means that you are that that part of the game
doesn't intimidate you, and a lot of times that separates players.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So yeah, that's when you hear somebody over the years
talking about this player plays with reckless abandon That's what
that is. Yeah, they're going into the action constantly. Firefighter
was a great example, because they're going to the fire
to put it out while everyone else getting away from
the fire.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And again it's against human nature. I mean, you know,
when you first start playing, I mean, you know, just
go run as fast as you can into that human
A big human.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, big scary human. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
This this term has used a lot when we're talking
about offensive tackles. What does it mean when you're called
a waste bender?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's that's the worst thing you can be when you're playing.
It all goes back to flex. It all goes back
to playing with leverage. That's the way offensive linemen get
in trouble the quickest. If you just if you'll just
think of the dynamics of the human body. If you
want to move and you want to move quickly, or
if you want to shadow something and stay with you
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need you need to have good flex from your hips,
from your knees, from your ankles. If you are trying
to keep stay in front of somebody, if you bend
at the waist here, think what happens. First of all,
your knees lock out. Your lower body becomes Now now
you're not spring loaded your board, your lower bodies. Your
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lower bodies are two by four, and you lose all
your power because you you never have any power like this.
Think of anything that you want to do physically, especially
in I mean, start with a martial arts or anything else.
There's nothing you do like this because when you bend
at the waist, you also do what you lower your head.
You lower your head and so I mean you look
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like one of those little toys that that you know
with a bird that sticks his head. That's beacon that
glass of water and raising back up, beacon the water
raising back up. That's a wastebender. You're not going to
move very many people doing that?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Is it typically? Uh? That that ear mark uh? Typically
with taller tackles.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes, yes, OK, But you can be a wastebender no
matter no matter what if if see being able to
stay in a in a in a power position is
something that you learn very quickly. If you've ever watched
you know, just watching offensive line coach, a lot of
times they just start with stance. Now, not only stance,
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not only I'm not talking about their hand on the
ground stance. I'm talking about stances with the lower body
flex we're talking about and and don't bend. Don't don't.
If you've bend at the waist to go after somebody
like this, you lose them because now what have they got?
They got you know a lot of things that are going on.
If you've ever seen wrestlers, you very seldom see wrestlers
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because they've been their head and they do like this,
then the first thing to do, Yeah, so that's what a
wastebender it don't be a wastebender.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
The final one that I feel we need to throw
in just to make sure that all the OT people
are up to date on what all these terms mean,
because the number one term you hear out of Coach
Max's mouth more than anything else, and we've heard some
of these a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The number one thing, ladies and gentlemen, keep your powder dry.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Don't panic, don't panic, don't panic. And it comes from
back in the days, you know, when the musket loader
was something that was really important if you were having
any kind of conflict in war. It always involved putting
the ball in the putting it down, but you had
to you had to put powder with it. And if
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the powder ever got wet, the gun didn't fire. And
if the gun didn't fire, whoever was coming after you
with bad intentions you had a problem. Yeah, So don't panic,
take care of your business before you go into the fray,
and keep your powder dry. Don't panic. Don't panic. And
that's something that people have a hard time with, not
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you know, panicking and being an ie go a lot together.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
They're in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
We're hearing, Rhett, how many times have you been told,
we'll say this week to keep your powder dry.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh, I'd say a couple by coaching.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, you know when I first came here. You know,
red rat's pretty powdered dry dude. I mean he he doesn't,
he doesn't. There's not a lot of panic in rets game.
Not a lot of panic in rets game. I can
I can say that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh, I get told it like three times a day.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well we're talking about a different human now, Wow, I.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Get it all the time. What am I jumpy?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I think some people are sitting on go more than others.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, but I think so.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Mine comes from and listen, it's we're all human and
it's tested every day depending on what happens. Life throws
stuff at you, at your job, whatever. But mine comes
from being an old boy scout be prepared. I just
try to be prepared.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I drink a lot of coffee. Anything's possible.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I don't know, I'm a loose cannon.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
There, you go write that down for.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You, you know, Mac. Listening to you talk about all
of these things, it is very interesting how much physics
you have to understand as an evaluator of athletes, how
much human anatomy you have to understand as an evaluator
of athletes, Like, there are so many things that go
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into this other than good football player yes or no.
And so we laugh about this terminology because some of
it sounds kind of silly, but in all seriousness, these
are very descriptive, easy ways to understand some pretty complex
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things that you're trying to describe, and that has to
be helpful in a draft room.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, I mean it's I mean, I've been in I've
been in legitimate draft rooms, draft preparation. You know thirty
one years that I coach in this league, and this
is the way you talk. This is the way you
talk when you're writing a report, and your report. They
are not looking for a lot of as I tell Rhett,
they don't want the Charles Dickens part of it. I
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don't need a lot. I need a lot of work.
I need things to describe this player really quick, and
I need I need I need points, counterpoints, good, bad.
And the longer that you're in it, I mean, the
more you I mean this. I didn't make any of
these up, all of them. I mean, there's a lot
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of these come from a lot of these you know,
come from you know, playing ball from high school on
up and having and listening and having coaches tell me,
and you know it, don't be a wastebender or coaches.
You know, you know all those things. But in a
draft room, you're a one hundred percent right, I mean,
you're it's not you're still you are still trying to evaluate,
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but you're evaluating traits and and you try to because
everybody's got good and bad traits. And then you try
to you try to describe them, and then you try
to weigh them because you're never to have anybody that's
got all pluses, and if somebody's got all minuses, then
you're not going to talk about them very long. Yeah,
that's just the way it works.
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the OTP. Well, thank you for playing along with my game.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That was fun.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I hope it was helpful to the ot people. I
hope that you guys got a little better idea of
some of the things we're talking about. Some of the
concepts we're trying to explain and describe, but also some
of it's just kind of funny, and we've got to
lean into that too. I always like a funny way
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of describing people. So for Coach Mac, who does not
have oily hips, or maybe he does have oily hips,
Oily is good so oily hips, and is not a
dog in traffic. Coach Mac, he is not an I
E and his powder is always dry. And Rhett Brian,
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I'm Amy Wells and this has been the O T P.
This is the OTP. I'm Amy Wells. Thank you so
much for joining us. We are joined by coach mac
Rett Brian, our resident draft gurus. And I was thinking,
you guys, as we are getting closer and closer to
the draft, we are going to start doing a lot
more position previews, starting to really dive into who these
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players are, what they look like, both on and off
the field. And it occurred to me that we use
a lot of very interesting, very specific language to describe
people throughout the draft. There's a lot of terminology, there's
a lot of phrases, there's a lot of maybe comparisons
or analogies that we use that you pretty much never
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ever used to describe a human in polite conversation, don't,
and so you just don't. And nobody in the world
does it better than coach Mac. Mac has the best
just vocabulary of descriptive terms and phrases. So I figured
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we should all get together here for the ot people
so that they are prepared for all of the draft
coverage that is to come. And let's define some of
these macisms. Let's really get into what these things mean.
Are you down, Mac, Yeah, I mean it's plain English.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I don't know that it is. It's completely plain English.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
There's plain English involved with the English words, right, And
I know what Max saying. It's with the way things
are described by people in football evaluation that describe what
a player is. But then there's also West Texas coach
Dave McGinnis flavors on his own lingo.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
In which again we speak English in West Texas. Rat. Yes,
I would just talking about talking to Amy about goat roping.
She says she's never been to a goat roping and
a rattlesnake round up. I'm gonna have to take her
to West Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
We're just trying to get people to understand Mac. Ease, Yes,
that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yes, So I have prepared a list of common mac phrases.
It is alphabetized for your convenience. And I say, we
just go back and forth and get Mac to describe
what these words. Give us a definition of what these
words and phrases.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Mean, just like he would do a thumb nail description
of a player exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yep, all right, Mac, are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Sure, let's go. I like this.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So if somebody is a good anchor, what does.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
That mean you're talking about somebody basically on the offensive
from the defensive front. And an anchor means when you're
getting to charge ahead of you that you can set
your feet and you can hold your ground. You can
hold your ground and you can reset. Now the way
that they do that, some people do anchor just by
pure mass. Some people do anchor by the ability of
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their lower body to have explosion and extension. But the
anchor part comes with its lower body strength, but it's
also lower body strength being able to hold your position,
whether it's offensively or defensively, and most of it's on
the front. Now, it can involve linebackers. When you call
about set the edge, I don't know if you have
set the edge in there in pure English. But you've
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got to be able. You've got to be able to
hold your ground. And that's why at the combine they
measure the broad jump and they measure the vertical jump
because that's the lower body flex and that's a lower
body power.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Gosh, I'm so glad we're doing this. Raret take the
next one.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
When a player has bend or lean.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Bend or lean, and most of the band starts from
the knees, down. And it also when you're looking for
players that are either going to have to turn the
edge or you're looking you're looking for players that are
going to have to change direction. It's not only the
bend at the at the in the in the knees,
and you've got to have you've got to have an
athletic bend at the knees. It's also the flex of
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the ankles. The flex of the ankles. The ankles are
extremely important because Jerrell Casey is a grit for for
all of O T people. That was one of Jerrell
Casey's biggest attributes, huge attribute because Jerrell Casey, you know,
height wise, did was not you know the measure that
you you look at when you when Jerrell Casey was
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just you know when you first came out of school,
if you just saw him in street clothes, you'd say, well,
you know this is a big guy, but he's not.
But his lower body flex, especially his ankle flex was
was elite. He could, he could, he could he could
flatten out quickly. If I'm coming this way and Rhett
is a quarterback here at his launch point. The lower
body flex for these guys that they've got to be
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able to turn and to and to get to where
the quarterback is is huge. It also helps some change
direction in a short area. So that's what flex is.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So sometimes you refer to that as a motorcycle lien.
Is that the same kind of concept where they're able
to bend in like their ankles.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Now, see now you're talking, you're talking it. The motorcycle
liane though, is off of the edge motorcycle lean. If
you ever watched a motorcycle race, when they when they
race motorcycles, they always when they're turning making the curve,
they bend and that's why they've got those pads on
their on their inside on their inside legs. They put
that down and so that they can cut all the
wind resistance around the curve and still stay on their
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line and be able to hold their lane. It's it's
a lot like a runner, you know running you know
in the four hundred meters that have to run the curve.
You've got guys that are great relay runners, that are
that are the stretch runners, and then you've got guys
that can that can run the curve, can lean the
curve without losing forward momentum, but also without without losing
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any speed. The motorcycle bend for edge is a huge
thing that that is something that you look for and
a lot of that is God given that motorcycle lean.
When you go to the combine or you're watching the
combine on television, when they run that figure eight hoop
drill and lay the towels down, you might wonder, how
does that relate. I mean, Jim Washburn, who was a
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longtime defensive line coach here, was the guy that put
that into the combine drills. He put it into the
combine drills because that's what he wanted to see. Not
only could a guy run the hoop, but he put
the towel into it where he had they had to
reach down and bend because that's where the lien came in.
And it was a great, great innovation by Jim Washburn
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because then you not only could see I mean, it's
easy to run the hoop straight up and down, but
you're never straight up and down when you're running the
edge to go after a quarterback. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's interesting, and I mean it seems like that's one
of the drills that you can see very clearly now
understanding that, oh that's why they do that. That makes
a lot of sense. It's very transferable to football. Okay,
another one, when you say that somebody looks like a
dog or worse, a puppy in traffic.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, well, first of all, there's a difference. Okay a dog.
A dog is a dude that no matter what is happening,
they're imposing their will. That's a dog. Now someone that
looks like you just set a puppy out of a
car in the middle of a freeway.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Glad no animals were harmed in the filming of this OTP.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And there's nobody there's nobody that loves dogs more than
I do. But if you've ever and again I mean
I'd been in the country with a lot of dogs
in the back of a pickup, which you can't do
in the city, but we used to do all the time,
and that dog, ever either jumped out when the truck
was moving or they fell out, which happened a lot,
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you know, because they'd like to run around, and they
chased the car coming the other way, and then they
run out of runway and go out the back. The
first thing they start doing is just spinning because they
don't know where they are and if cars are coming,
then they're just they're they're they're spinning without going anywhere.
That's what I talk about when you look at you
look at players, that they're their spatial awareness of what's
happening on the field. They're they're disoriented, they're lost, they're lost,
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they just can't find their way.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
That's a good one.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
When a player is fluid, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
The two things that you don't want in your description
as a player. You don't want timid and you don't
want stiff, because this game is played in short burst.
It's short, violent, quick burst. And if you're fluid, if
you can transition from start to stop and you don't
have a lot of wasted motion when you're changing direction,
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you don't have a lot of wasted motion. If you're ever,
if you're ever having to to to transition like a
defensive back from back to up. If the the lack
of wasted motion, then someone has fluidity. In other words,
they're flowing, they're flowing through the process, whatever it may be.
If you're stiff or if you're segmented. I don't know
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if you have segmented down there, but segmented means it
takes you a while. I mean, it's like you're grinding coffee.
It takes you a while to get started one way
or the other. I mean, you know, if you say,
if I'm they're sitting there watching tape with you, Amy,
and I go, that guy's grinding a lot of coffee
right there, you know, it means you know, it's really hard.
It's hard to make that movement. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
That's a good one. What about foot or horseback?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
All right? For the horseback is this and and this
is something that's really that's really easy. You're either riding
the horse and you know where you're going, or you've
gotten thrown off and you're walking. Okay, So if you
don't know whether you're foot no horseback, you're completely lost.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
One.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
People have heard you for years talk about a player
that is a gidget gadget player. What is a gidget
gadget player?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Gidget gadget are mostly smaller players. Smaller players that can
move really really quick in a short area. They may
not have the requisite size that goes with the position.
They may not have the requisite strength that goes with
the position, but they are so quick and and and
they they can move from one place to the other.
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And now mostly when you talk about gidget gadget dudes,
you're either talking about receivers because they you're talking about
players that operate in space, but you're also talking about
players that can snap ankles, in other words, make the
defender think they're going one way and snap them off.
And that's just you know that that is being that's
a gidget gadget dude. That is a short area quick
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elite player.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
What if somebody has a good GPS to the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well, GPS, I mean we've all figured you know, that
just means you know where you're going. You can you
can you know where you're going your zero rode in
on the ball, you can track in. It's just like
putting in the GPS on your car when you're getting
ready to go on a trip. It tells you exactly
where you're going. You don't even have to think about it.
A GPS player doesn't have to think about it. He's
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always going to the right spot. And most of the
time you're talking about a defensive player because what they
have to do is find the football. Some guys can
play football on defense, but have a hard time finding
it now, that can happen. That can happen in a
lot of different positions. Whether a defensive lineman is coming
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off a block, Now, how quick can he find the ball?
How's his GPS? How quick can a linebacker transition from
a run to a pass? How can he find the
ball or find the route that he's getting ready to
get under for a throw? Or if you're a defensive back,
how can you find the ball once it's thrown in
the air. All of that you got to have a
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good GPS for that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
When people hear you say that a player is high hipped,
what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
People are cut differently from the waist down. They're just
cut differently. Okay, a high hip guy has got longer legs. Now,
So when you've got longer legs and you're high hipped
most of the time, most of the time, you're gonna
have to you're gonna have to be able to have
some of that lower body flex, are you, Because if
you're a high hipped guy that doesn't have much flex,
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then it's like you're playing on stilts. In other words,
you know, it takes you a while to get moving.
The high hips aren't a problem if they're involved with
some flex that we talk about and the bend in
the knees and in the ankles. If you're a high
hipped guy that is stiff, you got.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
A problem, all right, Mac. This is one that you
say over and over and over again, and that is,
do not be an I E. What is an I E.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
We're sitting there watching tape, the three of us together,
and we watched three plays and Rett says, God, that
guy can play. I really like that guy. That guy
can play. Just watch after three plays and then you say, Rett,
don't be an ie. Let's watch this all the way through.
Keep our powder dry until we've watched everything that he's done.
An IE is the most dangerous thing in the world
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that you can be. Is an instant evaluator? Is an
instant evaluators? What an IE is? And a lot of
the stuff that that the OT people, A lot of
this stuff that you're hearing now pre draft with. I mean,
it's a cottage industry. You got a lot of IE
stuff going.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
On, making declarative statements about players. Yeah, is the best
running back to come out since his Ekal Well, maybe
he is. We don't I don't think we know that
right now.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
It takes research and I E. I mean I was
told that very very young because I just wanted to talk.
I wanted to sound like I knew what I was
talking about. And that was like shut up, okay, don't
be an I E.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And you took it to heart and you lived.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I'm just trying to just trying to help.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
What about what about a player that has long levers arms?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Keith Bullock? Think of Keith Bullock for all of our
for all of our people. One of his greatest asset
was I mean, he was a he was a long
levered They're arms. That's why they measure arm links at
the combine people. Why are they measured arm links? And
why are they measuring wingspan? Again, you're working in short
area quick areas, and so the long the longer your
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levers are. As an saying, offensive for a defensive lineman
because game is played about separation. If you're an offensive lineman,
you want the defensive players off of you. If you're
a defensive player, you want to be able to to
to engage and and shed shock and shed. The longer
your levers are, the better chance that you have to
be able to do that. And again when the balls
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in the air, you're you're long levered receivers. These combat catches.
You can have a defensive back that may have exceptionally
long arms. May not be hype wise for tall, but
if he has long levers, then he can contest the
high throws, or can contest the throws inside wrap around
the body without grabbing, without interfering. It's it's it's a
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great attribute to have and some players it has nothing
to do with height. It has to do with winkspan.
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to the OTP. We're getting Coach Mack to define some
of his better machisms, I think, and we're also learning
a lot about players, player evaluation and why certain attributes
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are so important, but the descriptors are just I mean beautiful.
This one's a really strong one. Oily hips. What are
oily hips?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
All right? Think about it. You're running your car engine, Okay,
if it runs out of oil, how does it run?
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Not good?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Okay, not good? Not good. I know you've probably done
this before. Let your car. Let your car run out
of oil.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, well I know you have, so I'll just let
the OT people know that. So if you don't have
oil in your engine, it locks up, It locks up,
and it can't move. And then let's go back to
grinding coffee. Let's go back to That's what happens if
you've got If you've got oily hips, your movement is fluid.
You've got you've got good movement, and changing direction has
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a lot to do with your hips. If you're stiff
in the hips, I mean, look, if you get out
there on the dance floor and you're dressed good and
you look good, but you're all of a sudden, the
music starts and you look you look like bobble Head
out there bouncing back and forth, and your and your
your hips aren't moving not good, not good.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So oily hips are good, really good. You want oily.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Heads, you want you want oil in your engine.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
You want oil in your engine.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
They want the football field and the dance floor. According
to coach, yeah, you want oily hips.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
If you're never seen anybody win dancing with the stars
that doesn't have oily hips, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
True, that's true.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
True. What about a player that you say is more
quick than fast.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Well, there's a difference. There's you know, short area quickness
and long speed. That's another term that you'll hear are
different things. Short area quicks. That's why they measure. That's
why they measure the twenty yards shuttle. That's why you
know a lot of times it's not the forty that
they look at for certain positions scouts do. It's the
ten split. How quick can you go from here to there?
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It's it's so much why the wave drill, the shuffle
drill is so important. It's why the three cone drill.
That see Old Ricado, who is an oilers entight legend
in the in the draft. He's got the draft room
named after him. That's why he invented the three cone
drill to be able to change directions in a short
in a short area, to be able to go forward,
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to be able to go right, to be able to
go left. That it's it's extremely, extremely important. The game
of football at the highest level, at all levels, is
played in short areas. Very seldom is it. Is it
played linear for a long way. You're you're I mean,
the thing that everybody oozing os over are the long
the long throws, the long runs, the long catches. But
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when you really watch the greater percentage of the game,
it's short area, violent, quick burst. That's why it's so important.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
All right, Well, let's break this down then. What is
short area quickness? Like what it's just us space.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
We're working, we're working right here. How fast does it
take me to get from there and back to here,
from me to you, from me to you? Just think,
think about the space that any body he plays in,
not only across the line of scrimmage, behind the ball.
When the ball is snapped, you've got up to two
and a half seconds to react to anything that's thrown,
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but you have less than that to be able to
react to a five to seven yard area. So your
short area quicks are huge. If it takes you a
long time to unwind your clock and to get moving.
You're behind, you're behind. That's what it is. It's those
runners that have the best start. It's the best start.
But in football it's start and stop because you don't
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just start and just run. It's starting to stop, change direction.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So what you're saying is in some position groups, that
ten yard split or the first ten of the forty
yard dash they run is more important than the forty yards.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Absolutely, offensive lineman, defensive linemen. It's extremely important. For linebackers.
That's that's huge. It's just it's short area quickness because
the game is played in short, violent burst.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
All right, we've heard this term for years and it's
I think it sounds like what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And he scratched them off.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I am.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
We gows you're pressing.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
You know what impresses me or not not impresses me.
It kind of humbles me that y'all been listening all
these years.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Would we try?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
I mean, what do you mean we interact with you
every day?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, well, you know sometimes I wonder, all right, go ahead,
what we have heard this draft term for for forever?
What is a tweener?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
That's when your position you're not quite sure because of
the measurements of size, height, and weight for positions pretty
much fall within categories, and if somebody is in between
those categories, it is somebody a true defensive end in
a four to three, whether their hands on the ground,
or are they a stand up linebacker outside in a
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in a in a three four defense? Sometimes are they
are they in between? A lot of times that's happening
now the way the game has has is being played
in space. It's the difference now between what we used
to term a strong safety, a guy that was down
plane in the box closer to the line of scrimmage,
or an open side will linebacker, because a lot of
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those jobs now have become meshed because of the way
offenses are played. And so it's a size differentiation when
you're talking about this guy may not have the categorical
size for this position, but his attributes allow him to
play that position because of some compensating factor.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
So it's like the aforementioned Keith Bullock who moved from
safety to linebacker, and the current guy that is a
linebacker here the seventh round pick from Miami last year,
James Williams, number fifty two.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Great example threet one hundred percent. It's a one hundred percent right.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
What if a guy is willing to throw his face
in the brier patch.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
This guy seeks contact because this is not a collision sport.
This is a violent sport. It's not just natural to
human nature to want to throw yourself into something. Now,
if you've ever seen a patch and you want to
throw your face in the briar patch, there's a lot
of stuff that could happen to you. Yeah, and some
of it doesn't feel good. Some guys have a little
(22:09):
or no disregard for their bodies. They are willing to
they're willing to throw it in there, in other words,
And so if somebody is willing time after time after time, naturally,
in other words, there is no there is no heasy
in their movement. They're not saying, oh, that looks like
a collision maybe, oh not, oh no, please, No, they're
willing to throw their face in the fire, and they're
(22:30):
willing to go. I mean, it's like a fireman and
those people, those guys that run into the fire, even
though you know it's it's something that's very dangerous. Throwing
your face in the briar patch as a football player
means that you are that that part of the game
doesn't intimidate you, and a lot of times that separates players.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
So yeah, that's when you hear somebody over the years
talking about this player plays with reckless abandon That's what
that is. Yeah, they're going into the action constantly. Firefighter
was a great example, because they're going to the fire
to put it out while everyone else getting away from
the fire.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
And again it's against human nature. I mean, you know,
when you first start playing, I mean, you know, just
go run as fast as you can into that human
A big human.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, big scary human. Right.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
This this term has used a lot when we're talking
about offensive tackles. What does it mean when you're called
a waste bender?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That's that's the worst thing you can be when you're playing.
It all goes back to flex. It all goes back
to playing with leverage. That's the way offensive linemen get
in trouble the quickest. If you just if you'll just
think of the dynamics of the human body. If you
want to move and you want to move quickly, or
if you want to shadow something and stay with you
(23:44):
need you need to have good flex from your hips,
from your knees, from your ankles. If you are trying
to keep stay in front of somebody, if you bend
at the waist here, think what happens. First of all,
your knees lock out. Your lower body becomes Now now
you're not spring loaded your board, your lower bodies. Your
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lower bodies are two by four, and you lose all
your power because you you never have any power like this.
Think of anything that you want to do physically, especially
in I mean, start with a martial arts or anything else.
There's nothing you do like this because when you bend
at the waist, you also do what you lower your head.
You lower your head and so I mean you look
(24:29):
like one of those little toys that that you know
with a bird that sticks his head. That's beacon that
glass of water and raising back up, beacon the water
raising back up. That's a wastebender. You're not going to
move very many people doing that?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Is it typically? Uh? That that ear mark uh? Typically
with taller tackles.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yes, yes, OK, But you can be a wastebender no
matter no matter what if if see being able to
stay in a in a in a power position is
something that you learn very quickly. If you've ever watched
you know, just watching offensive line coach, a lot of
times they just start with stance. Now, not only stance,
(25:10):
not only I'm not talking about their hand on the
ground stance. I'm talking about stances with the lower body
flex we're talking about and and don't bend. Don't don't.
If you've bend at the waist to go after somebody
like this, you lose them because now what have they got?
They got you know a lot of things that are going on.
If you've ever seen wrestlers, you very seldom see wrestlers
(25:32):
because they've been their head and they do like this,
then the first thing to do, Yeah, so that's what a
wastebender it don't be a wastebender.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
The final one that I feel we need to throw
in just to make sure that all the OT people
are up to date on what all these terms mean,
because the number one term you hear out of Coach
Max's mouth more than anything else, and we've heard some
of these a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The number one thing, ladies and gentlemen, keep your powder dry.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Don't panic, don't panic, don't panic. And it comes from
back in the days, you know, when the musket loader
was something that was really important if you were having
any kind of conflict in war. It always involved putting
the ball in the putting it down, but you had
to you had to put powder with it. And if
(26:27):
the powder ever got wet, the gun didn't fire. And
if the gun didn't fire, whoever was coming after you
with bad intentions you had a problem. Yeah, So don't panic,
take care of your business before you go into the fray,
and keep your powder dry. Don't panic. Don't panic. And
that's something that people have a hard time with, not
(26:49):
you know, panicking and being an ie go a lot together.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
They're in the same neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
We're hearing, Rhett, how many times have you been told,
we'll say this week to keep your powder dry.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh, I'd say a couple by coaching.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, you know when I first came here. You know,
red rat's pretty powdered dry dude. I mean he he doesn't,
he doesn't. There's not a lot of panic in rets game.
Not a lot of panic in rets game. I can
I can say that.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Oh, I get told it like three times a day.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well we're talking about a different human now, Wow, I.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Get it all the time. What am I jumpy?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I think some people are sitting on go more than others.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, but I think so.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Mine comes from and listen, it's we're all human and
it's tested every day depending on what happens. Life throws
stuff at you, at your job, whatever. But mine comes
from being an old boy scout be prepared. I just
try to be prepared.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I drink a lot of coffee. Anything's possible.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I don't know, I'm a loose cannon.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
There, you go write that down for.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You, you know, Mac. Listening to you talk about all
of these things, it is very interesting how much physics
you have to understand as an evaluator of athletes, how
much human anatomy you have to understand as an evaluator
of athletes, Like, there are so many things that go
(28:21):
into this other than good football player yes or no.
And so we laugh about this terminology because some of
it sounds kind of silly, but in all seriousness, these
are very descriptive, easy ways to understand some pretty complex
(28:41):
things that you're trying to describe, and that has to
be helpful in a draft room.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well, I mean it's I mean, I've been in I've
been in legitimate draft rooms, draft preparation. You know thirty
one years that I coach in this league, and this
is the way you talk. This is the way you
talk when you're writing a report, and your report. They
are not looking for a lot of as I tell Rhett,
they don't want the Charles Dickens part of it. I
(29:06):
don't need a lot. I need a lot of work.
I need things to describe this player really quick, and
I need I need I need points, counterpoints, good, bad.
And the longer that you're in it, I mean, the
more you I mean this. I didn't make any of
these up, all of them. I mean, there's a lot
(29:27):
of these come from a lot of these you know,
come from you know, playing ball from high school on
up and having and listening and having coaches tell me,
and you know it, don't be a wastebender or coaches.
You know, you know all those things. But in a
draft room, you're a one hundred percent right, I mean,
you're it's not you're still you are still trying to evaluate,
(29:49):
but you're evaluating traits and and you try to because
everybody's got good and bad traits. And then you try
to you try to describe them, and then you try
to weigh them because you're never to have anybody that's
got all pluses, and if somebody's got all minuses, then
you're not going to talk about them very long. Yeah,
that's just the way it works.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
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the OTP. Well, thank you for playing along with my game.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
That was fun.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I hope it was helpful to the ot people. I
hope that you guys got a little better idea of
some of the things we're talking about. Some of the
concepts we're trying to explain and describe, but also some
of it's just kind of funny, and we've got to
lean into that too. I always like a funny way
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of describing people. So for Coach Mac, who does not
have oily hips, or maybe he does have oily hips,
Oily is good so oily hips, and is not a
dog in traffic. Coach Mac, he is not an I
E and his powder is always dry. And Rhett Brian,
(31:30):
I'm Amy Wells and this has been the O T P.
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