Reality Isn't What You Think It Is /w Stormy Waters - Complete - The Pete Quiñones Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So it almost seems like we're starting this
mid conversation. I guess we'll get away from the talk
of the Caribbean and moving to the Caribbean, which doesn't
seem like the smartest thing to do to everyone. But
so this will be the first one of the first
episodes I'll drop in the new year, and I thought
we'd start the new year off talking about you know

(00:23):
something that we've talked about seeing and you mentioned it
all the time that it seems like in the last
few years that there has been a spiritual shift and
some kind of spiritual metaphysical awakening for a lot of people.
When did you start seeing that.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I wouldn't call it a lot of people. I would
say a portion of.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
It our Yeah, I mean bit of our people. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes. That's the weird thing is it's our guys. It's
only our guys, which this is this is blew me away.
So I was having a conversation with space Age maximist,
great account. By the way, They did a three part
series Unconsciousness Science with him, and he's a legit rocket scientist.
So if you ever want to drill down on any

(01:14):
of the technical bits of what Pete and I are
going to talk about. Like it's a good place to start.
But he and I, he and I were talking, and
I was telling him about like, hey, if you look
back at any of these like ancient mystic tradition. I'm
talking like anything from like the the Taoist tradition which
is going on neares, makes no difference three thousand years old,

(01:34):
four thousand years old, the Egyptian mystic tradition, which is
six thousand years old, or the Greek tradition, which is
roughly about three or four thousand years old. It's really old,
doesn't matter where you look, or the Vedic texts, which
are equally as old as the Egyptiman's going back six

(01:56):
We're talking about like five six thousand years And I
remember telling him, like all of these guys say the
same thing. They all say that only two and ten
have souls, two and ten have souls. And he was like,

(02:18):
that's really funny, Like do you know where the MPC
meme came from? And I'm like, no, I no, I
don't curate. Yeah, four obviously, yeah, but it came about.
It came about from a study that got widely circulated
on four chan. It was a meta analysis, and a

(02:39):
meta analysis, to anybody that's listening, is about the gold
standard that you can get right. So, basically, instead of
like a study that says, all right, this, you know,
this study says this is true, but what if we
tweak the like experiment parameters a little bit, Like what
if it's you know, maybe it's true in this sense,

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but what if we move a little bit to the left,
It's still true over here or over here or over here.
And basically, a meta analysis is hundreds to sometimes thousands
of individual studies that are all variations of each other
right to larger or lesser degrees. So if you want

(03:21):
to prove something is true, like you have to test
it out in like every different direction. And so a
meta analysis is a combination of all these things you
basically compile and with this, they actually commissioned these hundreds
of studies. I think it's like eight hundred studies, and
then you compile a data from all of them, and

(03:42):
then you see if something's true or not. But what
do you know, only twenty percent of people on this
fucking planet have the capacity for critical thinking, and it goes,

(04:04):
it goes a lot more than critical thinking. But one
of the the ability to project oneself into the future,
which sounds kind of hokey, like what do you mean
project myself into the future. Well, like, if I'm you know,
confronted with you know, a choice a dichotomy, I have

(04:25):
to say, okay, well, what let me imagine myself opening
door number A or going down path number A. Well,
if I go down path number A, this is going
to happen, and then this other thing will probably happen,
and you know, okay, well that's that's path A. Let
me project myself into the future of if I walk

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down path B, and all of these things will happen
to me, and which one's better? Well, I like path
B better. To do that simple thing, you have to
project yourself to the future. You have to view yourself
outside of your body, as in like you're here and

(05:06):
now right this second, right, like your immediate reactive self.
You have to just hop into your head and project
yourself into these hypothetical futures. And what comes from that
is also empathy. You have to be able to see

(05:29):
yourself outside of yourself, like what it's like in Pete's
shoes dealing with me a guy who can't stay on
topic at all ever, or explain everything anything in a
reasonable timeframe. Like I empathize with that because I put
myself in Pete's shoes, so that all comes from the

(05:55):
same thing, and only twenty percent of the population has
that ability. And at the same time, the Egyptians and
the Dallas are telling us, hey, only two and ten
people have souls. Okay, what does that mean in reality?

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And this came from like a space I was doing
with them with an account named schwab a good guy,
nice kid. It was on I think it was mk Ulchure.
We were talking about and like I was talking about
a bunch of tests that I had to do that

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I found out were part of the Gate Program, and
I was I didn't even go into the Gate Program
or anything like that, and him and the four other
hosts were like, that exact same thing happened to me,
like those exactly, like every thing you're describing happened to me.
And then I was like, okay, well, let me stop

(07:08):
being super rude and turn my phone on silent. We
asked the listeners, there's something like seven hundred people listening, like,
you know, raise your hand if anything, if any of
what we're describing happened to you, and then every single fucking,

(07:28):
every single account like that little hand emoji. It was
the fucking most surreal experience I've had in a very
long time. Well, sorry, the most surreal group experience I've
had in a very long time. And then I realized, like, okay,
well what are they like the Gate kids? Like basically

(07:50):
what the Gate program was was too to identify kids
in America with special with like the special sauce right like,
which you know this is this started right after the
remote viewing program was super successful. Damn, I don't I

(08:11):
don't know which tangent to go down, because both of
those are super interesting. Let's stick on.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I had, I had. I had a few people contact
me and say, I've heard Stormy talk about the Gate
program if he could get more into that, And we
talked about it, and I said that I missed it
by a couple of years, that like they didn't.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yes, I went every school.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, it wasn't sure they would have done it. I'm
sure it was done in my school, but but I was,
I was, I was a couple of I was a
couple of years early for it. That's what the that's
what the thing was.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Okay, So basically how it works is this.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
I didn't go to public but I didn't go to
public school, so yeah, I'm sure they were going.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So this is the gate program is like, let's say
you had an intelligence program that turned out to be
super duper duper successful, and it didn't involve any hardware
or crazy spy planes or anything like that, or any

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spies or any of that. It just involved people, like
just certain types of people, and that would make you
wonder like, okay, well, how many of those types of
people exist in the population. So the Remote Viewing Program, which,
if you guys, there was a movie that came out

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two years after the program got declassified, and what the
movie does is basically make the whole thing look really
really silly, which it's not. So basically the narrative is like, oh,
during this you know, Cold War, everything was really really

(10:08):
crazy and everyone was really really paranoid, and we found
out that the Soviet Union was using psychic spies, and
because we were so paranoid and things were so crazy,
we decided, well, fuck, we got to get psychic spies too, shit.
And then we did, and then we realized how crazy

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we were being, so we stopped doing that. But everyone
was just being really crazy at the time. It was
a really crazy time. That's not true. What's true is
that the remote viewing program was the most successful intelligence
program in the history of the United States, both civilian

(10:52):
and military. Right, so that means military intelligence and the
Central Intelligence Agency. It was more it was more productive
and more successful than the Corona program, which was the
CIA and the Pentagon's satellite program before the Apollo program. Right,

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So before that, John F. Kennedy did those speech, right,
We're going to go to the Moon now, and everyone
got into the space race. We started, you know, shooting
up rockets, and first we got like a guy into orbit,
and then we got a guy even further and then
eventually guys would go up to the moon. Before we
got guy number one into orbit, we already had the

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satellites zipping around the country the globe taking pictures of
shit and then air dropping literally canisters of film through
re entry and then we'd be picked up by boats
at nighttime. So the Soviet Union didn't know satellites existed,

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at least satellites that were taking pictures. It took all
of Soviet manpower and technical power to put a fucking
radio transmitter into space that beeped occasionally. The idea of
the lift it would take was just unbelievable. So Soviet
Union wasn't hiding shit from satellites because the idea of

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satellites taking pictures of them was fucking impossible. This is
they couldn't think about, right. So if you're not hiding
stuff from satellites, you would think that satellites would be
pretty good at giving you intelligence, and that this other
thing that they were doing turned out to be better.
And what were they doing well, turns out a guy

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sitting in his desk in Langley can close his eyes
quiet as mind, and through some relatively simple breathing techniques,
that guy can go anywhere in the world. He can

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read you what's on the desk of name a KGB officer.
He could tell you what his office smells like, how
cold it is, what color the curtains are they ugly,
what else is on his desk and without ever leaving Langley.

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And if you've found out that, all of a sudden
you come to the realization that a guy can close
his mind, close his eyeballs and relax and see inside
your most secretive secrets. That makes every fucking American and
national security threat because last thing you want is like

(14:01):
some celebrity doing acid and then seeing inside of you know,
groom Lake or some kid eating cheerios, you know, on
a Saturday morning, seeing inside name another place, God forbid.
Like the fucking celebrity, he's got a platform. What if
he says some shit on TV? You know, you could

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say like, oh, this fucking guy is clearly out of
his mind and he probably institutionalized him. But that means
your secret secret shit was just set on TV. Well
that's a problem, really is a problem. So all of
those kids that could have those type of abilities need

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to be identified. We need to keep a fucking eye
on them. We don't need to like track them with
little g men like looking in their window. We just
need to know who they are, quantify that risk. And
it turns out they're good at a lot of other
shit besides just seeing stuff. We can get into that later.

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But I mean, you say, Stormy, you don't know what
you're fucking talking about. That sounds insane. Yeah, well that's
exactly what the PBS sixty Minutes reporter thought when Ronnie
Reagan spat it out of his mouth talking about how
the Pentagon's psychic spy program was the most successful program

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they had it identified exactly where the down helicopter and
the congo was, or where the satellite was. That was
I mean, by the eighties we did have satellites, some
of them were nuclear powered. So like a broken satellite
now full of nuclear shit, losing losing orbit and soon

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to fall into the atmosphere and land somewhere. Knowing where
that thing is going to lands important. And Ronnie Reagan
explained it to her that they couldn't figure it out
until the Pentagon guys and there remote viewers told them

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exactly what day it would happen, where it would happen,
how it would happen, down to a two hundred yard radius.
What do you know? So it may sound insane, but
it's not. It's a very real thing. This program ran

(16:37):
from nineteen sixty eight to two thousand and four, well
at least that's when they told us it stopped. But
usually when the government gets caught doing something, they just
rename it and keep doing it, So that's probably happened. So, Michael,
what does that mean?

Speaker 1 (16:56):
What's interesting. What's interesting is the first the first time
we ever got on the phone together, you brought this
up and I told you, I said, I was reading
about this on like twenty thirteen, in twenty fourteen. And
the fact that when you read the when you read
the declassified documents, these read as this happened. This is

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all true. This is the data is there.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
And each and every intelligence report, what they were working on,
what they were looking at.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
And the hard part training manuals. Yeah, oh yeah. And
the hard part for most people to deal with this,
you know, in the modern day, is the fact that
we are an incredibly materialist materialist thinking. Yes, has just

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dominated dominates, the culture, dominates the zepe. So when people
hear this, they immediately think of the movie that you
had referenced, The Men Hysteric Goats, which was basically designed
to throw everybody, throw everybody off of this because it
had just been it had just been declassified, and it

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made everybody look stupid. It made everybody look stupid in
that movie until it didn't. But the the problem with
this is that people think that their consciousness is a
part of their physical body. They can't they don't know

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how to separate it, and even people like I remember
some evolutionary psychology, some evolutionists was talking to the Dalai
Lama and yeah, he was taking just basically talking down
to the Dalai Lama and everything and just you know,
oh yeah, well you don't know the science. He's like, okay,
we'll explain the science of consciousness. That's what did Dalai

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Lama said. And the scientists got pissed because he can't
he can't explain where consciousness comes from, where it came from.
I mean I've read every not every theory, every theory
I can get my hands on. Oh well, you know,
it happened because when we were basically cave men, somebody

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found the mushroom and then they ate that and that's
when they started talking to themselves inside their head and
then they thought, oh God must be talking to me.
It's like okay, well slid out a little bit. How
did this person come up with the concept of God?
Where do these concepts come from? I mean, is it what.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
In our data is come from them? They think ideas
come from them.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
And that was another thing that we when the first
time we talked about we talked was I remember there
was a website back in like twenty sixteen, they took
all at the same time, a bunch of the torrent
sites got taken down, and there was a torrent site
that was called a cult dot biz and they didn't

(20:16):
I mean, they had a lot of occult stuff on there,
but they had all this stuff. They had all of
the Stargate That's where I got all the Stargate information
from interviews. They had interviews that I've since lost with
people who were involved in it. And one of the
things that I read was it started talking about where

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do your thoughts come from? And are you thinking your
own thoughts or are they coming from somewhere else? And
they just had this little exercise in it. It said,
not everybody's going to be able to do this, but
two and twenty stand back, you know, complete shut down

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your thoughts and then look at your look at the
thoughts that are going to come to you, and tell
me and ask yourself where those thoughts are coming from.
And if you know how to do it, you'll realize
you're thinking, You're not thinking these things. These things are

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there are things coming from somewhere else. Yes, And people
don't want as soon as you say that it shut
people shut down.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yep. So it's funny.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Either one they're not willing to or I'll let you
go on in a second. One they're not willing to
accept it because it just sounds like voodoo to them,
or two or and it sounds like voodoo to them
and they can't do it, or two they can do
it and it scares the ship out of them.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yes, why would it scare the ship out of them?
Because that means that God exists. This is the this
is the fundamental thing. Like So that document you're referring
to is called the Gateway Report. Anybody that's listening that
is ready to turn this soca it sounds insane, just

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type into your nearest search browser the Gateway Report. The
very first link that should pop up is CIA's reading room.
Don't worry, it's not a trap. They have to buy
law publish every single thing that comes out via FOYA,
and they do it in what's called reading rooms. If
you want to go learn about the space program that

(22:34):
I was talking about that had like satellites before the
Apollo program, that's in the National Reconnaissance NRO there reading room.
So it's not just click the fucking link. Asshole. Just
do that, and when you do, you'll find out that

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not only is everything that Pete just said true, but
that the Pentagon has known this since the seventies. That
Gateway report was commissioned by the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
You know, some unserious motherfuckers, right Pete, some losers with
nothing better to do, and the report was done for

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them by Stanford Research Institute. You know, our most prestigious
research university, so the most prestigious research university in the nation,
therefore the most prestigious research university in the world. So
Joint Chiefs of Staff, some losers and you know, some
loser university research laboratory. And it will break it down

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to you and very clear language that when you close
your eyes and you say hello, that voice that says
hello back to you doesn't live inside your brain. It
does not live between your ears. It comes from somewhere else.
Because fundamental tenant right, the thing that so I brief Sidetrack.

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I was born and raised in the church, baptized and confirmed.
I did all my sacraments except for I haven't gotten
married yet, working on that, and I haven't needed last
rites yet, God forbid yet. For now eventually I'll get there.
None of us make it out of here alive. And
then I, you know, went to school, got exposed to

(24:27):
you know, science, and science knows everything. And I didn't
really pay attention to school. I didn't really dig it
until later on in life. For some reason, it like
I was working really hard. I just started my first
company and had a lot of disposable income, but really
no free time to think about anything because my way,

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I'd come back, you know, and like from work, and
my brain would be running a million miles an hour,
and the only thing I could do I couldn't sit
and watch TV. It was like too many I had
to I sort of learning stuff. Started with history and
just kept writing on going, went into you know, physics,

(25:09):
general relativity, special relativity. It did all of the Einstein
and physics, and got the quantum mechanics and just got
me further and further away from God until I got
to the end of it all right, and I had
some discretionary and come at this point in time, I
learned myself calculus, and I I bought some of Einstein's

(25:36):
letters to other physicists, and I bought some of his journals.
He kept a lot of journals, and you can say
whatever you want about Einstein, like oh, it wasn't really
him or this other whatever, It doesn't matter because the
physicists that he was having conversations with. You'd have to
tell me that all the physicists are fake, because with

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these physicists are talking about like every textbook I ever
picked up was telling me and framing these men is
that they believed what Neil de grass Tyson believes, right,
that that is the scientific belief right, you're not You
don't know science unless you believe the world looks like

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Neil de grass Tyson, your fucking biological robot and the
meetings universe. That's the science. So Google Translate had just
come out in a phone out, so I got my phone,
I opened up the camera or the Google Translate and camera.
I hold it up to these letters, and my fucking
jaw hits the floor because what I read was don't

(26:44):
be German. But the last thing I ever thought I
would have read, because here's Einstein and Neil Sphorr or
Einstein Schrodinger talking about God. It was the I was
these guys didn't believe in God, and believing God is
silly and scientific, and Einstein's like, I see his signature everywhere,

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whether I look in the smallest of the small or
the largest of the large, He's there. The world, or
so the universe, would be without him inconceivable in any
imaginable way. The forces of nature are held together like

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a telephone poll on a pencil point, and without someone
keeping it constant, all of this would fall apart. And
then he basically says the same thing about because again
this is a guy that you know, did the special relativity,
general relativity, you thing, you know, basically dunked on Newton,

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and then after that he went and discovered the atom
and quantum mechanics. So guys kind of having a run
right now. He just got done digging into the big
and the small, and I didn't know what to make
of it. And luckily, when we're ready for information, that

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information will always find us. You can call it a
synchronosit he can call whatever the fuck you want. But
out of just like complete randomness, I stumbled across the
Gateway report and all of a sudden everything just clicked.
I realized that the way I was raised was a
lot more accurate descriptor of the physical world around me

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than any of the science I had ever read, because
those two things can coexist. They are not mutually exclusive
like evolution, like that idiot, fucking scientist you were saying,
trying to quiz the Dali Lama. Right, this is the
best thing about uh, you know, her meticism. Everyone thinks

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her meticism is like some spooky religion or whatever. Like
you're dumb, you don't know what you're talking about. It's
an analytical framework of looking at the world that kind
of exposes a lot of the contradictions or brain creates
for us, like dichotomies or opposites. Contradictions they don't exist.
Opposites don't exist in nature, so that the only place

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they exist there in our head. Well, stormy, what about
hot and cold, right, loud and silent opposites? No, they're not,
They're just polarities. Hot and cold are two ends of temperature,

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quiet and loud or two ends of sound. Right, evolution
and creation these are not opposite things, right. God can
create life, all right, you can build a perfect out.

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And we're just figuring out that DNA turns out to
be a really good computer. I'm sure that surprises only humanity.
I'm sure God is not surprised at all. He's like, yeah, fuckoes,
thanks for you know. So you build this perfect thing
called life, right, and you watch it grow and you

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watch it become something worthy of putting a soul into. Right,
they're not separate things, evolution and creation.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Are.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
They're they're not opposites, which again, like that, that's what
of the Dali Lama probably thought that fucking I was hilarious.
But I got drug back to faith, if you can
call it faith, like by force, and it was very disoriented,
a very disorienting experience because I got there through science,

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Like I had never stopped looking for the science of
all of these things. And it turns out as there
there's infinitely more peer reviewed studies holding up my worldview
than Neil degrass Tyson's worldview fake scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson.
When I say fake scientist, I mean literal fake scientist.
The man has never published a single paper and not

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been cited and any other paper. Scientifically, the man doesn't exist.
He's a creation, he's an actor. But it seems to
be someone's fucking prerogative to put a man pretending to
be a scientist on every platform that he can get
a hold of to convince you that you are a
biological robot in a meaningless universe. You should consider why

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that would possibly be. But for remote viewing to operate, right,
I have to sit at my desk here in Palm
Beach when I say Pete's in Alaska and close my eyes,
and I can tell you what Pete's office looks like,
what Pete's doing, what is scribbling on his desk? For

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that to be possible, which it is, we have infinity
evidence of that means I both exist here in my
desk and I also exist in Pete's house.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
That's the non locality of consciousness. The thing that when
I close my eyes and I say hello, the thing
that says hello back to me, doesn't have to be
attached to my body at all. It doesn't even have
We don't have to occupy the same space at the
same time. So why would it be connected to me

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when I die? It doesn't have to be connected to
me when I'm alive. The grass Tyson doesn't have a
fucking answer for that, But our government shirt did because
they operationalized the technology, which is what they call tech consciousness.
They call it a technology. They operationalize this technology for

(33:33):
forty fucking years and likely still do today. So our
own government thinks materialism is full of shit. They're just
hoping you're dumb enough to believe that it's not.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Let's go back to the.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Oh, the emotional part. I skipped over that my.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well two and ten having a soul. So I just
I just released an episode before we started talking with
an Indian gentleman.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Who great guy is.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, the giant is a he's very honest, I mean
honest to I mean, I asked him, I said, well,
if if all this is true, why should I why
should I believe you? And he took that right in
stride and said, you know, you really shouldn't. You really
should get to know somebody before you. So, yeah, what

(34:36):
he's talking about is he's describing a people that are
motivated by two things. They're motivated by sex and they're
motivated by money, and they're probably when you're take into

(34:57):
consideration the groups. He doesn't only talk about. It means
he groups a whole bunch of other people in the
world in the groups. And it's all obviously in the
poorest quote unquote poorest, but really it's just places where
they can't without somebody else, they can't, they can't even
come close to where we are, where where the least

(35:20):
of us are. And when you take into consideration, you
have to look at that, and you have to you
have to look at the amount of people that he's
talking about a quarter of the world. Yes, And it
seems like what he's describing is he's describing people who
don't have a.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
He's describing beasts.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, these are these are these are not people. These
are humans in the maybe that's even a bad word
to use, but humans in the most primal sense, the
most and molistic sense.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
And bodies without consciousness, all right, will become vessels or
vehicles for consciousnesses without bodies.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, we talked. We talked about that too, when when
I was talking about my my forays into different forms
of meditation and which I've which I've stopped doing. I've
replaced it with something else that we'll we can talk
about a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well, I talked about every day if you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah, but I talked about I found the meditation meditation
ritual of Edgar Case. People can go up and go
look at Edgar Case c a y ce.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
And just a really good guesser.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Well, he was also somebody who pretty sure that he
was a vessel for he was a willing vessel for
other entities. Yes, And in doing the meditation that he described,

(37:27):
I felt like I was being invaded by another entity
and I had to snapstop, and I was sick for
a week after that. I had to pull right out
of it because I felt like I was being invaded.
And yeah, these are people can say what they want
about people's experiences. They're anecdotal whatever. But the funny thing

(37:53):
is is there's more writing and wreck words of things
like what I'm describing then there is of oh, look
we just found this intermediary form where you know, a
fish turned into you know, a fish grew legs and
walked up onto the land. Well no, no, actually, we

(38:19):
have thousands and thousands upon thousands and hundreds of thousands
of instances of people describing what I'm describing more more
times than this fictional this fictional science that somebody decided

(38:40):
to come up with so that they could So you
didn't realize that the things that you are actually capable of, Yes, do.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You want to know what the least diverse we'll call
it membership organization or group is at least least diversity.
Diversity people would be really upset about it. The Gate program.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yeah, it's all white.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
It's all one type of people. Not funny. That's weird,
that's weird. It seems that. Yeah, I don't know why
that is. I have some ideas.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I don't think there's one one non European white in
the program.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Not a single one. Not a single one. Why is that? Well, okay,
so we talked about like remote viewing by the way,
that I'll give it to Pete in this Actually think
I think I already gave it to Pete, but I'll

(39:56):
give him some links instead to put in the show notes.
Every single thing that I'm tal talking about here, there's
at least two to three dozen peer reviewed studies in
serious journals, serious physics journals, serious medical journals, psychology journals.
Tons literally tons. I mean, some of the stuff that

(40:19):
I'm going to talk about today has been replicated in
laboratories literally seventy different laboratories on four continents. It's a
fucking thing. It just is so one thing, really briefly,
the shortest tangent ever. There is more science on our

(40:41):
side than their side, as in, if I were to
stack up all the research, right, mine is a mile
high and Neil de grass Tysons is an inch deep.
So there's a good portion of our group of people

(41:03):
that are materialist, or that they're priors. Their materialists priors
prevent them from engaging in what is with what is
happening in reality?

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Why is Julius Evela suddenly relevant in our sphere? Why
is this right? If you were to call Julius Evela
a philosopher a political theorist, he would beat the shit
out of you, probably within an inch of your life.
It would be the worst thing you could call him.

(41:42):
Julius Evela is a mystic and as a tericist. Right,
you didn't have fuck all to do with the political
except in the fact that what we think is a
political conflict is not a political conflict. Why would a
guy whose life work with spiritualities work suddenly become relevant

(42:06):
to us politically? Maybe because the conflict we're in is
not a political conflict. Maybe that's why. Oh so, I
guess one way to put it would be, well, actually,
let's backtrack into into what these what the what the

(42:30):
world looks like and who inhabits it? Right if well,
what P is describing A lot of you may think
that Pete's just a crazy person, and story is just
a crazy person. Whatever. I don't care. But a whole

(42:52):
bunch of other content.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Creators that you enjoy we are, Yeah we are, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yes, yes we are, and that were also completely harmless.
So a whole bunch of other conflict content creators that
you've enjoyed, some of which have appeared on the show
many times, some of which who shows that you probably watch,
have reached out to me privately and basically had similar

(43:24):
stories to what Pete had, except for Pete was meditating, right,
he went to that state, almost to that state where
he would be where they are, and that would give

(43:45):
them the opportunity to be where he is. But they've
reached out to me, and all of them have described
varying forms of sleep paralysis. Right like when I was
sleeping in a dream, I woke up in the dream

(44:06):
and then I couldn't move, man, I was frozen but conscious,
and something was standing over me or in my bedroom,
and it was trying to touch me and stick its
like arm or its hand like into my chest right

(44:28):
or standing at the foot of my bed, and I
either started praying in my dream or I woke up
and the number one thing They don't tell me this,
but you know, at this point in time, I've I've

(44:49):
been around so long, I've done so many little fares
into into where they live. I kind of I kind
of I know what it's like. And I'd ask them like, oh, okay,
well this is a dream, right, and they'd be like, yeah,
it was a dream. It was a really terrible dream.

(45:10):
What does it mean. I'd be like, well, first off,
it means it wasn't a dream at all. They're like,
what do you mean. I'm like, well, when you woke
up the next morning, did you feel exhausted and not
like exhausted like you didn't get any sleep, but like

(45:31):
you've been run over by a fucking train, like more
physically dreamed of life than you've ever been, and probably
found it hard to walk and probably really nauseous and disoriented.
They'd all say, yes, how did you know that? And

(45:51):
I'd say, well, the same way, I know that that's
not a dream. You weren't asleep, you were just in
that place before you wake up. All the way yeah,
and then that usually gets a lot of uncomfortable silence

(46:13):
and they'd be like, yeah, but I saw the thing
that get the foot of my bed like in the dream.
You're like, no, no, you didn't, but you did see
a thing at the foot of your bed. You just
weren't dreaming. Because the thing about us, for some reason

(46:38):
is you ever watch You're a movie guy, right, do
you ever watch the second Shining? No? Fuck? It is
really good, as in, like you know, kind of one
of those movies that kind of spills the beans.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Is it the Shining part too? Or is it? Uh,
it's like the original.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Now it's part two. It's doctor Sleep. But basically what
I just described, minus the sleep sleeping part of it
the same character. He's just a little bit grown up.
But it basically describes why his dad got possessed, but

(47:30):
also why all the little monsters that he encountered wanted
him and not everybody anybody else, because remember his mom
didn't see them, right, and his dad got occupied. All right,

(47:53):
he was de sold I guess you could say, right,
but they all wanted him. And that's basically the larger
theme of the second film is that there are a
portion of the kids in the one diversity higher they
did slip in there is the new young kid that
our previous hero encounters is a black girl, which is nonsensical,

(48:19):
but that you know, these things that exist are all
trying to drain something out of a portion of kids
that or adults, depending that only a small percentage of

(48:40):
people are born with. And there's a lot of truth
in that because like we're kind of on the radar.
I guess you could say, right, like we're we're non
NPEs in like the literal sense, as in like where

(49:05):
we imagine like NPCs versus us, like we are playing
in single player, Right, that's what you think of when
you think of NPCs. But that's the wrong way to
look at it. The right way to look at it is, yes,
they're NPCs. Yes to your listener, if you're listening to this,
you're probably not one of them. But you're playing versus

(49:34):
you're not playing, you know, single player storyline. It's a both,
and yes, there are NPCs, but also you're not the
only one playing. It's a much bigger game. I guess
you'd say so, Like the enemy gets a vote, and

(50:04):
it's important to remember that because like not the good
way to put it. And I'm sure there's a lot
of listeners that are probably really freaked out right now
because they have had a similar experience as some of
the content creators that I described. I won't put anybody

(50:25):
on blast, but we'll say it's more than two, less
than ten. But I don't talk to that many content creators.
There's only a couple of really good ones. But it's
a lot kind of like the high percentage of our
guys that you know seem to be in this little program.
They're not perfect, the government's not fucking great. They don't

(50:45):
catch everybody. In fact, they probably don't even get half.
But it was a thing. So the other thing I
think I asked you the very first time we thought
to me was like the very first thing I ever
asked you was if you feel like the last three
or four years you've been like you felt like you're

(51:10):
going through menopause. I think it is my go to
description of it, right because like, how else do you
described being? How else do you describe like as a man?
You know, in a way where another man will feel
comfortable admitting this to you, because first stop like admitting
it is probably like it can be taken into context.

(51:31):
That sounds very, very, very unmanly, but I believe I
asked Pete, like, do you feel like you're a lot
more emotional lately in the last couple of years, And
it would be a marked difference, right, like a noticeable
difference between how you used to be before that, like
something specifically changed.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I mean I was, I was pretty cold for a
long time. And just the other day I shared with
you that document that I found of my great grandfather
and I was reading it out loud when I found it.
I was reading it out loud to my wife because
I thought it was so amazing and everything. And right
in the middle of reading it, you know, it's just

(52:16):
just so the people listening. No, it's the paperwork he
filled out and the oaths he had to take when
he came here from Galicia to become a citizen the
Austro Hungarian Empire. And like I'm reading it to my
wife and like, right in the middle of it, I
just break down crying. There's no reason for me to

(52:37):
break down and start breaking down crying. It's not something
that I ever would have broke down crying, but you know,
it just right in the middle of it, completely choked up,
can't finish reading it. It's like here, you read this, yep.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
And it could be like dumb stuff, like you could
just be texting, like texting a person, and all of
a sudden you just get choked up out of nowhere.
Because like even if it's not like you were reading
a personal like family document, because you'd be like, oh,
it's that type of emotion. But like it doesn't even
have to be that. You could be just like talking
to someone or like thinking of a text thing and

(53:15):
it just comes out of nowhere, and all of a sudden,
you're choked up in the middle of talking or the
middle of typing or whatever. You're reading things that never
like you're not like crying at like Hallmark commercials, but
like all of a sudden, like you feel a thing

(53:37):
for situations or things that you never would have before
you would have You've probably read a million fucking I mean,
you've been doing the ancestry deep dot for a long
time and it just And the other thing is it
kind of comes out of nowhere, as in, like you're
this situation you're in is not emotional, right, It kind

(54:01):
of just happens and the thing about emotions is well,
they don't come from inside of you, just like your thoughts. Well,
some of your thoughts do. But knowledge is emotion, right,

(54:24):
All knowledge is conveyed to you through feeling. And some
of our more technical autistic people are going to be like,
absolutely not. What are you talking about. I'll ask you like, okay,
do you let your mom? And you say yes, You
say it immediately. You didn't think about it, did you.
You didn't go, well, well, these are the things my

(54:44):
mom does. She's really awesome. As soon as I said
your mom, you got like a warm and fuzzy and
it's a feeling. You know it instantly. And this is
prove as in like, we've got a ton of fucking
studies for this too. So I could take Pete to

(55:08):
a museum and I could take him in the back
of the museum and I could put an EKG on him,
and I could put an eeg on him. All right,
So I'm measuring bring waves and I'm measuring his heart
and in the back of the room there's this big giant,

(55:28):
you know thing with a big red curtain over it.
I say, look at the red curtain, and then I
yanked the curtain down and instantly his eeg and his
ekg are doing the same thing if I were to

(55:51):
just have his wife hold his hand or give him
a hug or something like that. And you, okay, so
what well the word instantly, that's what because see, underneath
the curtain was a beautiful picture, beautiful painting, and Pete

(56:14):
knew that painting was beautiful immediately. Okay, So what well?
When I mean immediately, I mean instantly, which is odd
because it takes, you know, a portion of time for
the light to bounce off that painting go into Pete's eyeballs,

(56:40):
and for his eyeballs to then flip those two images
because they come in upside down, and then merge those
two images to a single image and then analyze that image.
It takes you about a second to a second and

(57:02):
a quarter right to see anything and understand it. Right.
I could fucking swing a baseball bat at your face
and you'll duck instantly, But you're not thinking, oh, this

(57:23):
is a bat. Look at the shape of this bat.
It's moving really fast, Like no, you're not understanding what's happening.
Just there's something moving at your face really really fast. Right,
That's different but if I put a message on that
baseball bat, on a post it note, and I swing
it in your fucking face, then you're not going to

(57:46):
be able to read it. You're not gonna be able
to understand it. I can put a happy face on it, ironically,
because you're about to get smashed in the face of
the bat. You're not gonna be able to see it.
You're not gonna know whether it's a beautiful happy face
or a frownie face because there's not enough time. So
somehow Pete's brain knew that that was a pretty picture

(58:09):
before he possibly could have known it was a pretty picture,
And there were about to experiment with this in the
extreme right, because the knowledge of what that painting was
was transmitted to him instantly, and it was transmitted to
him through the form of feeling. Thoughts are going to

(58:31):
jump in and glom on top of it. Afterwards, those
thoughts they happen in your head. But that's the only
thing that does right, because knowledge doesn't come from you,
come from somewhere else. And you can apply this in
a much more real world example. The terms women's intuition

(58:55):
is a real thing, as in, like, there's a reason
that it exists, and every single culture and all the
oracles and all the soothsayers uh and uh fortue tellers,
they're all women. Okay. But also this, what's the word

(59:22):
what are they placebo type effect? Right? This word women's intuition. Right,
it's a nonsense word because if you're appeal back to
nonsense word, there's a lot of uncomfortable truths there. We
don't like those. Just like with placebo effect, it literally
means in Greek unknown, So the placebo effect is the
unknown effect. Well, fuck you. You gave me fake medicine that

(59:45):
told me it was going to cure my brain cancer
and it was just tic TACs, but now my brain
cancer's gone, Like, fuck you, it's not the unknown effect.
Don't act like you know what this is. Like, you
should be looking at this. Either tic tax cure cancer
or you have some fucking explaining to do the same

(01:00:06):
thing with women's intuition, because it's I mean, I can
point to sixty or seventy studies, all right, women know things, right.
One variation of the study is like, let's just say
all this, Pete, I'm gonna put you into the study.

(01:00:27):
Pete plans a surprise party for his wife. He spends
about a month on it. All right, He's got all
of his got all of her friends, got balloons, got presents,
got funny hats, noise makers, like everything, and it's at

(01:00:48):
her friend's house. Well, Pete takes her to her friend's house.
She doesn't know, and the second she opens the door
and surprise happens, She's not gonna feel happy. She's going

(01:01:11):
to look like ghost white because, unbeknownst to Pete and
unbeknownst to partygoers, and most importantly, unbeknownst to her, right,
some crazy ex boyfriend has you know, somehow like gotten

(01:01:32):
into the back of the house and wants to do
something bad to her. Right, she doesn't. She has no
way of knowing that that person exists, and nobody else
does either. But the second that fucking door opens, she

(01:01:55):
knows if something's wrong. And every single person that's listening
to this has experienced this in their own life. All right, well,
you're gonna ask her, like, bitch, I spent a fucking month. Wait,
what do you mean? She's gonna say, I don't know,
I want to go home. I don't And then she's

(01:02:17):
gonna struggle to put it into words and you'd be like,
what do you mean you don't know? And she's going
to be like, I don't know. I can't explain it. Well,
that's because she can't physically put it into words for you.
Because emotion is really, really, really hard to pin down

(01:02:40):
in words. That's why we come up with all these
nonsense words for it. Sad Okay, Well, if I had
ask you what is sad, describe sad to me, You're
gonna have a really fucking hard time or happy, Like, okay,
what does that mean? Happy? The only reason these words
exist is because we all roughly experiment experience them the

(01:03:01):
same way. So we don't have to explain the emotion
to anybody else because we have a fucking damn hard
time to do it. But Pete's wife knew immediately, and
the same way. Every person listening to this knows and

(01:03:21):
can remember a time where they were sitting there by themselves,
they thought, and then all of a sudden felt like
someone was staring at them. Well, if I'm behind Pete,
let's say I'm fifty feet behind Pete and I'm staring
at him, he is going to know. Some of the

(01:03:45):
hunters that listen to this, you already know this, because
if you've been fucking tracking an animal for forever and
you finally got it in your sites, you know not
to focus on it because the animal knows, well, how
does it fucking know? How did Pete know that I'm
fifty feet or twenty feet behind him? He didn't know

(01:04:07):
I existed. So the knowledge of me being the guy
staring at the back of Pete's head somehow got transmitted
from my brain to his. How the fuck did that happen?
Because there's no way Pete should be able to know that,

(01:04:28):
like zero were not connected. I didn't fucking send him
a message. I didn't make a sound. I just stared
at him. Staring. It doesn't mean anything because if I
was looking a foot to my left, Pete wouldn't have
felt shit. And you can take this little thought experiment
and do it in a real life experiment, which has

(01:04:49):
been done many times to the extreme. So let's say
I take Pete to another place. I already took him
to a fucking museum. Now I'm gonna take him to
a fucking football stadium. It's gonna be empty, and there's
a chair and then a desk with some wires it's

(01:05:10):
at the fifty yard line, all right, So chairs facing
in one direction. He sits in the chair, and I
put the EEG machine on him again, and I put
the EKG machine on him again, and then I hop
in a little golf cart and I leave the stadium.

(01:05:35):
I leave the parking lot. I go eight miles in
the opposite direction from him. That's beyond the curvature of
the earth. Seven miles roughly, all right. And then I
go up on top of a tower. And on the

(01:05:59):
way I picked up some random fucking guy. Just so
it's not me, right, so I take another guy bring
him up the tower with me. In the top of
the tower is a telescope with a big shutter on it,
and I say, hey, look through that shutter, or sorry,

(01:06:22):
look through the telescope. The guy's gonna look through the
telescope and you say, I don't see anything, like, no shit,
because the shutter hasn't opened. Keep looking and keeps looking,
and all of a sudden, the shutter opens just enough
time for his eyes to focus, and that closes again,

(01:06:44):
and we will see instantly from eight fucking miles away,
Pete's EEG machine and his EKG machine go nuts. How
is that possible? I just discribe to you a real
experiment that's been done two separate times on two different

(01:07:05):
ends of the country. How is that possible? Did did
a connection spontaneously self organized in mid air to like
just transmit that fucking random guy's knowledge that he was
looking through a telescope at Pete transmitted eight miles into

(01:07:31):
Pete's brain? Did that just suddenly, you know? Did that pathway,
that little communication tube to suddenly form out of existence? Know? Well,
how else did Pete instantly know? Yeah, that's faster than
light and faster than sound could travel over that eight miles.

(01:07:54):
So a person that he doesn't know exists has no
possible way of knowing exists at a distance so far away,
not light or sound could have reached him in time.
How did he know? And did that pathway that allowed

(01:08:15):
him to know that it instantly form? No, it didn't.
I mean it could. But what's more logical that it
just self organized that instant the shutter opened, or that
it was always there and that Pete didn't know it
was always there, and that guy looking through the telescope
didn't know that they were always connected? How could that be? Well?

(01:08:44):
Back to what Pete said when he opened up this podcast. Well,
what if your thoughts and your consciousness come from outside
of you? Well, then that makes perfect sense, doesn't it. Okay, well,

(01:09:10):
how does that happen? You mean to tell me we're
all connected in a way, but not really, because we're
all part of the same thing, just to different degrees.
Remote viewing telekinesis like all these things, they're all they're all.

(01:09:37):
I'm all just describing variations of the same thing. All right.
The easy way I explain this is a sea sponge.
A sea sponge happens to be the perfect explanation or
a perfect analogy to you and your existence in relationship

(01:09:57):
to God. You're a sea sponge at the bottom of
the ocean, all right. That sea sponge came from the ocean.
It was created in the ocean. Right, we'll say the
ocean is God in this example, Right, was created in

(01:10:22):
the ocean. It's always existed in the ocean. Right. And
since it's a sponge, the ocean is inside of it.
Because it's a sponge, is full of holes, right, filled
with ocean, by the way, a right, So it is

(01:10:43):
of the ocean, and it is filled with the ocean,
And where does it live? Where is the sponge? Well,
it's in the fucking ocean. So it is of the ocean.
It is made up of the ocean, oceans inside of it,

(01:11:09):
and it is also in the ocean. That's you. And
that means things like remote viewing, or how Pete's brain
could get either connected to me staring at him from
fifty feet away or twenty feet away, or eight miles

(01:11:33):
away or a thousand miles away, because I don't even
need to look at him. The same experiment's been done
by just focusing on him a thousand miles away. Two
thousand miles away doesn't fucking matter. Time and space only

(01:11:55):
exists for you. Okay, well how does that happen? Well,
dear listener, are you aware of your big toe right now?

(01:12:21):
Focus on it? Can you feel it? Can you move it?
It was always attached to you. I'm not talking chemically,
like electrochemically like nerves. I'm talking about your intention, like

(01:12:41):
focus on your big toe. Now you can feel it.
You didn't feel it a second ago, but now you
do because you just change the coordinates what you're focusing on.

(01:13:03):
Because there's really no difference between what's happening inside your head,
so to speak, And what's happening inside your big toe
or my big toe or Pete's big toe. It's all
just a question of coordinates, right, We're all in the

(01:13:26):
same ocean, and turns out we can kind of create,
we can move things around in the ocean. Go on, Pete,
that was a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Sorry, Yeah, and I want to go back. I want
to go back to two. Remote viewing, yes, what I
would call psychic spying, that kind of thing. So I

(01:14:06):
haven't heard anybody talk about this. I've heard people talk
about this, but I've never heard because no one talks
about remote viewing and the remote viewing program and everything.
So buddy of mine this morning sent me a screenshot
of an investigative reporter, Catherine Herridge on Twitter. We have

(01:14:26):
some mutuals and Eric Prince follows or a bunch of
people follow her, and she had a whistleblower on from
the CIA. And I put this together, and when I
saw the subject they were talking about, I put this.

(01:14:49):
Something just came to me because the subject was Havana syndrome.
You understand where I'm going, Yes, Havana syndrome, which has
affected mostly intelligence assets and quote unquote diplomats in Well,

(01:15:15):
it started in Havana, but it's also been reported that
has happened in other countries. And I finally put together
this morning that what Havana syndrome, what they may be experiencing,
is foreign powers thinking that there are psychic spies there

(01:15:46):
and working to interrupt them, yes, and stop them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
And I happened to guys on us soil mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
That has yeah. So I mean, I know we can
take this into a take this into another tangent.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
But do you remember when you said you got sick,
You said you got sick after you felt invaded. M
did you look at the symptoms of avan of syndrome.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
I have, or what they're calling symptoms, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Yeah, basically described feeling sick, being drained of energy. Well,
do you know that a portion about twenty percent I
can't remember that it was like fifteen or twenty percent. Uh,

(01:16:56):
I think yeah, I think it was fifteen percent something
like that, ten or fifty percent of the remote viewers
if they had any type of like because you can't
you don't really get to pick who gets it and
who doesn't. Well you can, you can, but some people

(01:17:20):
just naturally have an affinity to it the ability to
be able to do it. But a subset of those
people also have other personality disorders. Right, they're not good people. Right.
We all know some that are just perfectly normal people,

(01:17:43):
but just not good people. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Well, I know exactly what you're describing. I think that
I think the listener does too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah. Well, it turns out that a portion of these
people after about a year or two in the program,
because they're doing it a lot. If your job is X,
Y and Z and you're in the fucking military, guess
what you're doing a lot of it. I ask those

(01:18:15):
guys on submarines how many hours they work? Well, if
like the nation needs you to like remote view something
that is like mission critical like remote viewers were also
used extensively in the Iran hostage situation. They were able
to tell them exactly what room the hostages were being

(01:18:39):
held on in a complex that was a university, a
lot of rooms, and they were basically working around the clock,
all taking shifts, and a couple of them and this
apparently had always happened, but a couple of them would

(01:19:02):
have psychotic episodes that would be permanent. I guess you
can call it what do they call it now, uh
d ID or dissociative identity disorder or split personality disorders
what we used to call it, m hm. They would

(01:19:25):
develop split personality disorder. Well, Pete, you did some meditating.
What happened to you? Somebody tried to get in there?

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Right, something someone some there? You go, that's a different personality.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Yeah, different personality. Funny that now that works. Yeah, So
they would develop permanent this associated descended disassociative descended, did
fucking the ID? Dammit? Yeah. So both the remote viewers

(01:20:15):
when they're doing it, if they have any personality traits
that I guess you could say are flawed, they seemed
to have there, seemed to not be there, seemed to
not be able to do what you did, Pete, then
say nope, get out of here, right, So it can

(01:20:39):
be a couple of things, all right. So the men
that stared at goats, they weren't just remote viewing. They
were trying to cause physical harm. Right in the end,
they actually blow up that goat, remember, yep, with their brains.
This was an actual program. I can't remember whether it

(01:20:59):
was real flame or sunbeam and go look these up.
But we tried extensively, and we don't know whether they
were successful at it or not. But there are also reports.
These are not from the program. These are separate reports

(01:21:22):
from human intelligence sources right, and documents that were smuggled
out of the Soviet Union, which again I have I can,
I can drop you if you want to put them
in the show notes later. Just remind me that the
Soviets were able to do this right, cause physical harm
both in laboratory animals and in humans, and knowing a

(01:21:50):
little bit about how they operated their prisons, particularly the
guy the head of the Soviet I guess you'd call
it like commissars that went into the Spanish Civil War
that were basically running because I mean, you've done enough
work in the civil war or a Spanish civil war.
I got into an argument with a mutual friend of

(01:22:10):
ours name of Astral, and he was like, yeah, now
the Spanish work, like there was millions of Spanish communists,
like it wasn't It wasn't like a Soviet Union gay
op from like start to finish. And I was like, no, no,
it wasn't a Soviet Union gay app from starting to finish.

(01:22:31):
It was a proxy war like like Ukraine, right, And
he's like, what do you mean like Ukraine? And he's
probably getting angry even listening to this, probably like, no,
I didn't say that. I said this. You already see
him jumping out, that's not what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Hear his voice right now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Yeah, But I was like, well, think about Ukraine, man, Right,
we started that war on purpose. We controlled the government,
we coued the government, we did a democracy switcheroo, right,
just like the Spanish got the Communists got control of
the Spanish government through an election apparently, right, And immediately

(01:23:14):
we began flooding it full of operatives and guns and
money and try to take over the country. And then
half of the country was like, uh, no, you can't
come take over our country. We don't recognize this election.
Fuck you. And they're like, no, we won this election

(01:23:35):
fair and square. So now we're going to fucking persecute
the church. Does this sound familiar? It does to me.
And just like all of our spooks are facilitating all
the intelligence to the Ukrainian army, doing all the command
and control and all the missions, right, and even our

(01:23:58):
special forces guys, I'm sure are just doing the on
the ground, advising I'm sure they are in no way
taking part in any combat operations. I'm sure they're just
there to advise troops in the field, you know, to
just stand there and you know, give PowerPoint presentations in

(01:24:19):
between artillery barrages and you know, in the trenches below
the bullets, you know, to advise them. I'm sure they're
not shooting back at all. Well, one of the guys
that was one of the Soviet advisors in the Spanish
Civil War, the head advisor, right, he went on after

(01:24:44):
the civil War to run a chemical and it's covered
everything chemical, biological and special weapons laboratory where they experience
meanted on prisoners. That's how they tested their poisons, their
biological agents, and all of their other creative ways of

(01:25:06):
hurting and killing people. So at the time that like
reading these reports and I'm talking, I'm reading about you know,
laboratory animals and participants whatever. I'm just imagining, Oh cool,
Like this is like how they tested every other assassination
program they had, Right, they develop it and develop it,

(01:25:28):
so they thought they had to fucking poison. They tested
on animals and it looked like it was good on animals,
and they brought people in they were prisoners, and they
tested it on them and then if it worked, you
got a new poison. So if our intelligence guys are
freaking the fuck out about it and trying to do

(01:25:50):
the same exact thing, that means I would safe to
assume that they were successful in it. And it was
more than just lab animinals. So what Pete is describing weird.
He tried to fucking do and we tried to do

(01:26:11):
it because the Soviets did it successfully, where not only
can you remote view, but you can cause physical harm.
And Pete, remember that treasure trove of scientific studies I
sent you. Yep, it's something like this was just like
a just like a tip of the iceberg of all

(01:26:32):
of the fucking studies like these are public. These aren't
like classified studies. These are peer reviewed studies happening in
the unclassified world. And you know, as far back as
the seventies a good chunk of those I would say,
a solid quarter of them. Or on remote healing, why

(01:26:54):
would the government be interested in the ability to remotely
heal people? Probably because they were also interested in remotely
hurting them, Because I mean, one kind of necessitates the other,
doesn't it If I can remotely heal you, which surprise. Kids.

(01:27:19):
You can don't ask me how it works. I just
know that it does work, right. I like these they're
just the rules down here.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
That's that's been proven in Normyville too. I mean they're yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Yeah, one hundred percent, Like we don't make the rules,
Pete and I. We just fucking live here, you know,
God created them. This is another thing. It's not fucking
like the biggest thing that upsets me the most about
our guys, especially when it comes to topic like this,
because they'll all tell me how they're not materialists, a

(01:28:00):
religious guy, they're just religious guys or whatever. But then
they'll tell me that this is all nonsense, right, or
some of them will tell me it's evil, right or
whatever it is, Like, I'm sorry, Like magic exists, right,

(01:28:24):
we didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
Make Evila wrote three volumes on it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Yeah. Oh, yes, there's another there's another thing. I'm actually
staring at them right now. Yes, Julius Evela's life work,
his magnum opus, was none of the books you've fucking
heard of, but if you search for it you'll find it.
It was out of print for a very very very
long time until somebody was finally brave enough to put
it into print, and then had to put out a

(01:28:50):
bunch of posts and public letters and stuff about how
they're sorry about doing it because they were attacked by Antifa.
Antifa Antifa cares a lot about magic though, Okay, okay,
But Julius Evela's Magnum Opus is a trilogy on magic,

(01:29:19):
all right, So Julius Evela and the u Are Group.
The u Are Group, you can look it up. It
was a magazine published by a fraternal order, a very
old one, going as far back as Giodanno Bruno. Giodanno

(01:29:44):
Bruno is the founder of Rosa Crucians Christian Mystics. The
Christian mysticism has taken forms in many, many different ways,
and in a lot of saints in the Catholic Church

(01:30:05):
are mystics. I wrote our mutual friend last Things because
I did a show with him on the movie Constantine,
and he got done trying to reconcile basically what I'm
saying with Christianity, which is not very difficult. It just

(01:30:27):
takes a paradigm adjustment because when I tell you that
all of these mystics, whether they're Sufi mystics, whether they're
Taois mystics, whether they're Vedic mystics, Egyptian or Greek mystics,

(01:30:48):
and later Christian mystics, they are all describing the same things.
And in fact, not only do these men never talk
to each other and never communicate, they all live very
setic lives. Right, the Sufi Muslims in the thirteen hundreds,
we're not like comparing notes with the Taoists. You know,

(01:31:09):
maybe two hundred monks on top of a fucking mountain
literally in China, probably not swapping a lot of notes
or reading Sanskrit. And can you to swaping notes at
the Vedics? Not happening, but yet across culture and across time,
which is how we prove things. Like Pete was talking about,

(01:31:31):
you know, lack of a better term, demons. Now they
are all described no matter where you look throughout human history,
and when you look, people are describing roughly the same thing.
And how some people will take that as in like, oh, man,
there's all just one religion. Bro, it's all this unified thing,

(01:31:52):
like everyone's just all part of the same thing. Man,
that's not at all what's happening, right, I said, you're
a sponge at the bottom of a fucking ocean. Right, So,
just because various people, at various places and times stuck
their head underwater and talked a little bit about what

(01:32:15):
the fucking ocean looks like doesn't mean that makes this
a unified religion or whatever. People can be wrong but
still be right about a lot of things, right, like
describing what the bottom of the ocean looks like, what
the topology looks like, right, what does the map look like.

(01:32:40):
It doesn't mean there's like a universal thing. It just
means that your reality is a lot more intricate than
you originally thought it was. Right, if all of the
Sufi mystics and all of the Greek mystics vedicts and
we're all describing clouds, you wouldn't have an issue with that.

(01:33:05):
But yeah, no, shit, clouds are everywhere. Everyone sees clouds.
Clouds exist, Like, so what they're describing clouds? And I
would turn to you and say, they're describing clouds. You
just don't see clouds because you're distracted, preoccupied, all right,

(01:33:31):
So they are all just describing clouds. Doesn't mean there's
some universal meteorology. It just means that at some point
in time, each of these men saw a cloud and
decided to write it down. They're not telling you how

(01:33:54):
the weather works or anything like that. I'm sure they
all do in their own ways, but they're not all.
In fact, all of them except for one group is correct,
because back to that thing about content creators that you
may or may not know, all describing to me the

(01:34:15):
same thing about a certain type of not a dream
that they had in my personal experience, which was a
lot more well, there's been several, none of them fun.
But they all started praying to Christ and it ended.

(01:34:41):
And mine wasn't me being asleep and then being awake
and thinking I was asleep, and then waking up in
the morning going wow, what a crazy dream I just had.
Mine went on months and months in my real life,

(01:35:07):
and I tried everything, believe me when I tell you everything,
except for one thing. All right. I said that I
was a Christian as a young young lad and then
moved away from the church, right, but then discovered, oh man, wow,

(01:35:32):
mysticism seems to be a lot real, and God seems
to be real. Right, But that doesn't make me much
different than any of those fucking dumb concert burning man
like waving crystals around does it. But I'm a Christian
now again because what happened to me, what didn't happen

(01:36:03):
when I was like in bed asleep and then the
thing came to me right out of body experiences or
something that may happen to some people accidentally and rarely,
and usually it'll be confused with a dream. It'll usually

(01:36:26):
happen when they're kind of in that state of about
to fall asleep or just waking up. But you can,
you don't have to be and you can do it,
and you can go all types of places and you
can learn all types of things. But you're where they are,

(01:36:50):
and everything up there, out there, whatever hates you a lot,
all of them. They all lie, They all try and
pretend to be something that they're not, and they're just
long enough to get close to you. And when they

(01:37:18):
see you or realize that you are seeing them, right, Like,
remember this is intention, Right, my eyeballs are still closed
on a couch meditating. I didn't go anywhere. My physical
eyeballs didn't. So when I say like, see, I mean intention,

(01:37:40):
intention operates the wheel. Intention is the is what the
machine runs on. Right. Intention is the currency of the realm,
No matter what however, you apply it in every instance,
but when you see them and they see you, you'd

(01:38:01):
be kind of come very interesting to them. Since I
know this is probably going YouTube, i'll refrain how I
normally describe this. All right, So imagine like you're looking
at your backyard and all of a sudden, a blade

(01:38:23):
of grass says, hey you, hey, n word, hey you.
All of a sudden, that blade of grass is now
the most interesting fucking thing in the entire world for you. You're
going to want to know everything you can about that
blade of grass. You're going to check on it every

(01:38:45):
single day. You'll probably look at it all day like
whoa this grass just called me a fucking you know,
racial slur. It's interesting. And just like that, you are
interesting to them now, and they want to hang out

(01:39:15):
and torment you and try and make you do terrible
things to yourself mostly And the only thing like I
mean I mean everywhere, I mean everywhere, every mirror I

(01:39:36):
walked past, every darkened window, every shop window, every tinted
car window that was reflective, every place I could see
my reflection there was right behind me, just letting me know,
hey buddy, here I am. It's very horrible, horrible image,

(01:40:05):
and the only thing that worked I tried, Like I said,
everything was Christ. Because after a while, you're like, I'm
going to either a go insane or b kill myself.
One of these two things is happening, Like this cannot

(01:40:27):
go on forever. So when you realize, after a while
of it hurting you, that you can hurt it, it's
a very empowering thing, and you keep doing it till
it goes away and never comes back. And that's how
I can definitively say that they only hate one thing,

(01:40:50):
They're only scared of one thing. Only one thing hurts
you know, Taoist and say whatever they want, all right,
Muslims can say whatever they want. Those into freaks and
say whatever the fuck they want, but only one thing
hurts them. That's Christ. So you can take that however

(01:41:15):
you want. But knowing that has saved my ass many times.
It's the most valuable piece of information you could possibly have,
because just knowing these things exist somehow puts you if

(01:41:37):
you're not already on the Radartists on the radar like you,
if you only know that twenty percent of the population
has the ability to change reality, Actually, let me backtrack
a little bit, because you're probably like, why the fuck
would they give a shit about me consciousness conscious or

(01:42:00):
not conscious? Well, this is why, and this is probably
one of the most well documented experiments there is, at
least that has to do with this. I guess gravity
would be a more documented one because every time you
drop a ball, it falls down, so I guess that
would be more. But this would be clothes. Right, So

(01:42:24):
seventy different labs for continents, tons of peer reviewed literature.
So there is something called a quantum randomness generator. It's
a QRG. It is the most scientifically accurate piece of

(01:42:44):
machinery mankind has ever made. We use it to do
stuff like time atomic clocks in our supercomputers. It's pretty
darn accurate, pretty important because randomness is a very difficult
thing to do in absolutes. So if Pete were to say, hey, flip,
I'm going to flip a quarter pick heads or tails,

(01:43:06):
I'm gonna pick tails every time, because if I flip
a quarter a million times, right, it's coming out forty
eight percent heads, forty eight and some change, and fifty
two percent tails and some change. So that means there's
a two percent higher likelihood that's going to be tails.

(01:43:29):
So even in flipping a quarter, you're not going to
get randomness. And pretty much anything else in our world
is very hard to get absolute randomness. The only time
we see absolute randomness is in quantum particles. Right, they

(01:43:51):
pop in and out of existence, they do all types
of weird shit, but they do it randomly. Right, absolute
randomness at the fundamental layer of our reality. So that's
what the quantum randomness generator measures. And if you say, hey,
I need a fifty to fifty probability distribution, I need

(01:44:15):
a perfect binary zero or one, it's gonna spit you
out fifty to fifty out to twenty seven decimal places.
It'll be fifty point zero zero zero zero zero zero
zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero
zero zero zero zero zero. I probably short changed you

(01:44:39):
like ten zeros, but it's really fucking accurate. So doctor
Dean Raydon, who's probably one of the best, he was
the guy that led when I said that the Pentagon
the Joint chiefs of Staff right task Stanford Research Institute

(01:45:00):
with studying this thing called consciousness and where it comes from.
The person that they went to was doctor Dean Rayden.
Doctor Dean Rayden was the director of the Stanford Research
Institute for thirty years. He's not a fucking slouch, and
he was the guy that came up with his experiment.

(01:45:23):
So you can take a quantum random Desgenerator's about the
size of a garbage disposal. Right. You can fit it
under your counter in your kitchen. You can also fit
it underneath the desk. And really, if I stick it
under a desk, it also looks a lot like a
garbage disposal. Wouldn't fucking notice it? Why should I put
like a sheet over or something like that. You know,
I even even know it's there. So he would get

(01:45:45):
postdoc students, which are basically slaves, and he would bring
them in one at a time into a room. There's
a lady in the clipboard at the door, and there
was a timer for sixty seconds. And lady with the
clipboard said, pick a number zero or one. Don't tell me.

(01:46:06):
You could tell me, but whatever, just don't and then
go in there. Whether it's zero or whether it's one,
go into that room, sit in that chair. Again, they
don't know the quantum randomus generator is there, right, and
visualize the number you pick either visualize the number zero

(01:46:29):
or the number one and hold that image in your head.
Focus on that zero, or focus on that one for
sixty seconds. And they did one after the other after
the other, after the other of the other, and well,
it turns out when you focus on the number zero

(01:46:53):
or the number one, that fifty to fifty distribution is
no longer fifty fifty. It's not. Let's put this way,
if it was forty nine point nine nine nine nine
nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine, right,

(01:47:13):
that would be impossible. Everything we know about physics quantum mechanics,
like it or not, is the most accurate piece of
physics we have, because it itself is accurate to twenty
seven decimal places. It's the most accurate thing we've got.

(01:47:34):
And a point nine nine nine nine nine nine nine
or point zero zero ers or zeros or zer zero
one whatever, Right, Let's say it's ten zeros or fifteen zeros,
and then the number one. All right, I've moved up

(01:47:55):
twelve zeros, right, if I moved up six zeros, right,
so I did eighteen zeros and then one, so fifty
point fifteen zeros and then number one. That would be
a six sigma event that would be the chances of

(01:48:17):
that happening are one in a trillion. I'm sorry, one
in one hundred trillion. I can't remember which it's late.
So if it was a fraction of a fraction of
a fraction of a fraction of a decimal place, it
would be one in hundreds and hundreds of trillion. But
it didn't move up a fraction of a decimal place,

(01:48:39):
did it. Now, it didn't. It moved up one whole
percentage point, which is, well, it's fucking impossible, is what
it is. Everything that we know about physics, every single
thing we know about our reality, says that that's impossible.
And not only is it impossible, but it was done
again and again and again and again an hundreds of

(01:49:01):
times actually in this particular study, thousands of times. And
this study was replicated in seventy other laboratories on four
different fucking continents. It exists. And what else is funnier
is if you get two or three people in the room.
Let's say you get three people and they all get together,

(01:49:24):
and they all pick a number ahead of time together,
and they go in that room and they all focus
on the same number. Let's say they all pick one
and they're all focusing and imagining and visualizing number one. Well,
you'd imagine that that would be fifty three forty seven. Again,

(01:49:45):
fucking impossible, but whatever it isn't it's like fifty six
forty four. So that means it's more than the sum
total of each individual. It's non linear, right, it's cumulative. Sorry,

(01:50:09):
it's not cumuative. It's non linear. Right. So when you
see that happening, what that's actually measuring is the physical
fabric of reality. Right. Everything that you are, the chair
you sit in, is made up of the same things

(01:50:30):
that this thing is measuring, right. And atom is not
very well described because an accurate description of an atom
would be like a football stadium, right. And let's say
I take a tennis ball and another tennis ball, and

(01:50:51):
I put the two tennis balls in the center of
the football stadium at the fifty yard line, right, and
then the electrons go around the outsides. Atoms only made
it with three things, protons, neutrons, electrons, the electrons that
orbit it. They would be about the size of a skittle, right,

(01:51:14):
and not orbiting around the stadium, orbiting around the fucking
parking lot. Right, So ninety nine point nine nine nine
percent of atoms are empty space. There's no reason that
Pete should not fall through his fucking chair right now,
and then fall through the floor beneath him, and then
fall through the earth and out the other end, because

(01:51:35):
there's there's nothing. There's been almost entirely air. The only
thing that makes his chair solid is the randomness of
those electrons zipping around the parking lot, popping in and
out of existence, right, those electrons that atom solid, even

(01:52:02):
though the atom itself is not solid, there's nothing fucking
solid about it. So the same thing that that quantum
randomness generator is measuring is the same thing that keeps
Pete in his fucking chair. So when you say that
these people, just regular people, tens of thousands of them,

(01:52:27):
focusing on one thing or another thing changes the behavior
of those electrons, then you've got a big fucking problem,
because what you're telling me is that what human beings
focus on, what they direct their intention towards, fundamentally shifts

(01:52:50):
the fabric of reality. What's happening, what can happen? Right,
So that was hard for me to swallow because so far,
up until that point, I thought I pretty much had
things mapped out like, Okay, yes, world looks like a

(01:53:12):
lot more like the Bible. I get it, But I
wasn't supposed to have any say. You're not supposed to
have any say well, because you don't. Individually you don't.
Some of you may have more than to say than others,
but it's collectively right. So what that tells you is

(01:53:40):
that like when you see a church and you see
a congregation in prayer, all focusing their intention on the
same exact thing, right, how the devil would look at
that is that's a weapons system. That is the other

(01:54:05):
team's fucking guns that can do things that can derail
what I've got going on. But how do they have
any say at all? They're just people, They're just souls.

(01:54:28):
And the way it was explained to me, and I
haven't had a better way of explaining it, so I
just steal it. And the person who told me is dead,
so I don't have to give him credit. But he
asked me, he goes, well, man was created in God's image, right,

(01:54:49):
I said yes, duh. I didn't say duh. I had
a lot of respect for this man, but I said yes,
and he goes well, How has God created you in
his image? Does God have two legs on, two arms,

(01:55:10):
and a nose and ears and mouth? And I said no,
he doesn't. He says, okay, well, how about the universe?
God created the universe? Right and I said yes. He goes, well,
how did he create it? And he said he spoke
it into existence? And I said really, how uh? If

(01:55:33):
he doesn't have a mouth and doesn't have any ears
and there was no one else to hear him, did
he really speak it into existence with words? So I
guess not. Well what did he do then? All right?

(01:55:55):
And I said he willed it into existence? And I
said okay, well, if you're created in God's image, but
he doesn't look like you, not shaped like you, what
else do we know about God? Well? Build things into existence?

(01:56:19):
And the guy said kind of yeah, he created, He
created the world around him. And he's like, do you
think that man, when we say is created in God's image,
do you think he's saying that we have a little

(01:56:41):
bit of that, not maybe individual enough to where it
would matter, but that we have the ability to create
our environment around us. I said, I don't know, and
he goes, well, you know, we're the only animal that
does it any other way, whether you create the way

(01:57:03):
God creates or just creates. Period. We're the only thing
on the earth that shapes its environment to its will. Right,
if you want to clean backyard, you can either you know,
pray to God that will be clean. If you get
whole bunch of people together and they all really want

(01:57:26):
your guard to be clean, they all focus their intention
on it and pray on it, they invite him into
the equation, then it will get clean if you believe it,
and if they believe it, if they believe in God

(01:57:49):
and they ask it to be done through God, it'll
be done. Or the other way you could do it
is you could get your ass up and stop being
lazy and rake your leaves and clean your backyard. Either way,
whether you do it the first way or the second way,
we are the only creature on the planet that does it.

(01:58:15):
And this is when I see destruction, Pete, I see satan.
I see evil everywhere. And you asked why, like some
people see it and other people don't see it. I

(01:58:37):
think everybody sees it because like the guys that are
on our side, right, the ones that will tell us
every day that you know they're materialists or they don't,
you know, they're not religious or whatever. I think they
see what we see. I think they do. But if

(01:59:03):
you admit that you see it to yourself, then you
have to choose, right, Because if I admit that I
see like when I see destruction and chaos that's being
deliberately created on purpose, or the inversion of God's order turning.

(01:59:37):
There's lots of ways that we see inversion today. I
don't need to listen them to everybody. Everybody knows. But
other people see it too. But if they admit that
they see it, then they have to choose. Because if
I admit that I see evil, like real evil on
the spiritual sense evil, then that means if that exists,

(02:00:02):
then it's opposite exists, and if his opposite exists, it
means God exists. And if God exists, then he expects
something from me. He's told me directly that he does,
and that means that I then don't get to have

(02:00:26):
just a life that I wanted. I have a different
life now, right because in before I saw this and
before I admitted that I saw it, the only thing
I focused on or could focus on, was me. Right, Like,
what does the average person. If I say, hey, man,

(02:00:48):
what do you want to do with your life? A
regular person was say, oh, I want to get this,
and I want to get that, and then I want
to have these things, you know, whether that be a
family or whatever. I want to have nice wife and
kids in nice house. You always hear the word like
I a bunch and then have a bunch. But if

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you see evil and you admit that you see evil,
well that shit goes out the window, doesn't it. Because
now I know that God exists and he knows that
I know, and he knows that I know that I

(02:01:33):
see evil. Now I don't get to just focus on
whatever I want to do right all the I want
to have. I'm going to have this or this, because
God is quite clear about what we're supposed to do

(02:01:54):
if we see evil, Because to abide evil, he tells
us directly, is to do evil. To see evil and
say nothing and do nothing is evil. But if I
don't admit that I see evil, that what I'm seeing

(02:02:18):
is evil, it's just politics. I'm sorry. But carving the
genitals off of yeah, that's not politics? Is it? Destroying

(02:02:50):
church isn't politics.

Speaker 1 (02:02:54):
People definitely go spend a lot more effort and energy
rationalizing away evil. Then it would be to just accept it.

Speaker 2 (02:03:07):
What happens if you accept.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
It, Oh you're not the same anymore. No duty things
we're afraid to change. Yeah, it's accountability because you're going
to die.

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
It's going to happen. I'm constantly like, yeah, what the fuck?
What did you do? Like you saw evil and you
cared about the stuff you want And I don't know

(02:03:46):
your experiences with people. Because of your platform, you get
communications from all types of people, Like I'm constantly amazed
Pete's listenership is vast. He's got he's got informants everywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty wild where people contact me
and go, you know this person, or somebody'll be like,
I was at this party or get together and I'm
listening to people have a conversation and it was a
conversation you had on an episode. It's like almost the

(02:04:31):
exact same conversation that you had on an episode a
week before. And they're like there's no way. They're like,
there's no way that it wasn't lifted from your show.
And then they'll tell me who's having this conversation. I'm like,
oh fuck, that that means, that means I have a
responsibility and the things that come out of my mouth now.

Speaker 2 (02:04:54):
Yeah, fucking Mark Andreeson's posting about uh about the Golden
Age and tariffs and how that funded the government?

Speaker 1 (02:05:07):
Did a long Thomas Carlisle post yesterday? Was it this morning?

Speaker 2 (02:05:12):
Yeah? It's funny because the only other time I've heard
anybody talk about like tariffs and how it used to
fit on the other like the government or whatever, and
how that actually the teriff it was actually the tariff
policy that brought about the Golden Age was when you
and I talked about it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
Well, Mark, if you're listening, keep up the good.

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
Work, keep up the good work man, And you want
to know what if he's listening, that tells us a
lot about the caliber of listener that you have. And
I think the big point it also says is that

(02:05:55):
another thing I see going around is that what we
do and what we think in our little sphere doesn't matter.
How come everybody that happens to listen to you or
dumb enough to listen to me all feels that type

(02:06:20):
of way that you and I were describing when we
started this, that things matter now in a way that
they can't describe. Like the same way if you or
I were to ask a woman you know what is wrong,

(02:06:40):
and she's going to tell you. I can't explain it.
I can't put it into words. I just have a
really bad feeling. And if I were to ask you
or any of our friends, like, okay, because the very
first thing I asked you was like, do you feel
like you know? Anyways, we covered that, but.

Speaker 1 (02:07:04):
Let's let's let's do that feeling we we have. This
conversation is going to be ongoing, and we're over. We're
over over two hours right now. It's actually it's actually
New Year's Eve, and and yeah, we can pick this

(02:07:24):
up and we'll pick it up, so you know, we'll
make this a series just like the other one, where
we'll just continue to bring topics to this and yeah,
there's so much start the conversation and see where it goes. Yeah,
and also let's let's wait for some feedback too, because
that can you know, that can dictate a lot of

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what made people may want to hear.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
Yes, I know there was a lot of attention about
the Gate program that was going on around our spheres,
so yes, so hopefully listeners tell Pete, what you think
and if there's any specific thing that you wanted us
to touch on, because I mean, Pete and I privately
have had a lot of conversations about this type of stuff.

(02:08:13):
Probably it represents, it's say, like a large majority about
what we actually talk about, because.

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
Yet do we talk about politics.

Speaker 2 (02:08:22):
Very very rarely in comparison to other things. But this stuff,
I guess what I would say is like this same
reason I'm doing this on New Year's I don't I
don't go out and party much. New Year's one of
the things like the time for me for like to reflect,
like to take really really seriously where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
Yeah, me and Kelly are going to sit at home
and just welcome in the new year and then go
to bed and wake up tomorrow and right back at it.
But one thing that I do want to cover the
next time is maybe we'll talk a little bit about
a movie that got panned by a lot of people
called Padre Pio. And anyone who knows about Padre Pio, well,

(02:09:12):
Shilah Buff plays him in the movie. And Shilah Buff
came out of that He came out of that movie,
went into that movie as a you know God, Yeah,
good idea. He came out as a Latin mass Catholic.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
No way, are you serious? Yeah, I have in like
a decade, so I don't. I don't. I don't know
any of this stuff, are you. Yeah, so Shilah book.

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
Isn't he like as in Transformers movies? And yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
Yeah, But isn't he you know, he's an act? Is
he Jewish?

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
I don't know. I don't think so. I don't. I
haven't looked that up to see it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:02):
Well, because if so, then he's I hope. I hope
he's not. Not for any cynical reason. But I've listened
to some of your previous guests is it hunger again,
which the ostracization that yeah, he had.

Speaker 1 (02:10:19):
A Jewish mother and a and a Cajun, a Cajun
father who was Christian.

Speaker 2 (02:10:25):
Yeah. I've heard from other people that were also raised
Jewish that can you know, found christ A lot of
un pleasant like familial stuff happens, right They basically you're
kicked out of the family or you know, the nicest
way possible. So I hope that's not the case, because

(02:10:46):
that's really trump.

Speaker 1 (02:10:47):
That was That was the Pilos talked about how you
know he found Christ when he was living in Israel,
and we hope he was basically told, hey, you can't
be here anymore.

Speaker 2 (02:10:59):
Oh God, Yeah, I hope that's I hope that's not
the case.

Speaker 1 (02:11:02):
But yeah, he's Schila buff said he was. He was
raised around both sides. He was bought, he was baptized
and bomb Metzfud. One of the camps he attended was Christian.
And then after doing this movie, he embraced the Catholic.

Speaker 2 (02:11:18):
Faith, probably the last movie he's ever been to do.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
He's got it. He's got a couple other things coming out,
but you know, we'll see exactly what direction he goes in.

Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
He's big enough to produce them himself. Like look at
nobody wanted to fund The Passion, and I believe The
Passion is one of the highest grossing films of all times.

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
Yeah, made made Mel Gibson like a billion dollars just
because he decided he was going to finance it himself
and do it himself.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
So oh, real quick, before I go, these are the
list of of Catholic mystics. I have Meister Eckhart is
the greatest, He's the goat. Yeah, but you have Saint
Gregory of Nissa. He's the father of Christian mysticism in
the fourth century. He's one of the few saints that

(02:12:10):
are overeered by both the Orthodox and the Catholic Church.
Padre Pio, right, the estatic mystic who like Saint John
of the Cross and Saint Francis, an astatic mystic is
a certain type. That's so fine. I need to look
into Padre Pio no more Goinge.

Speaker 1 (02:12:34):
Used to say, when Padre Pio needed to pray, he
would say, bring me my weapon, that man, bring me
my rosary.

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Amazing. This seems to also be a theme, by the way, Pete.
So you also have Saint Ignatius of Loyola. He was
an intense stick and he had a mystical experience on
the battlefield. I believe he lost a limb and was

(02:13:07):
not able to fight anymore. But he became the founder
of the Jesuit order. And I mean, yes, the Jesuits
have gotten very far off the path. But in the
early Church they were like the Navy seals, like every
single one of them, like when they were going off
to do mission, network they full on expected to die.

(02:13:31):
Being a Jesuit would probably be about like in the
Middle Ages. Being a Jesuit is probably about the most
dangerous job you could fucking have. Saint Joseph of Coopertino,
Saint John of the Cross, Saint Francis of Assissi, known
as the nature mystic. Everybody should look into why Saint
Teresa of Avala, the prolific writer and both a ton

(02:13:55):
of her own documentation and third party documentation. Saint Bernard
of claer Vaux. Everybody should recognize that name, especially Swiss
Saint John of Coupertino. This is another one that's extremely documented,
both by the papacy at the time and four or

(02:14:16):
five separate kings, three of which converted to Christianity. I'm sorry,
I've converted to Catholicism after their experience with Joseph Kupertino,
because what he's known for is is extreme levitation in
bio and by location. Saint Joseph could when I say

(02:14:41):
extreme levitation, that would be an understatement, and by location
means exactly what you fucking think it means. And there
is an immense amount of documentation on Joseph of Cupertino,
Saint JOSEPHO. So it's not foreign, all right. Mysticism was

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a big part of the church, but for some reason
was kind of erased. Christians used to have the Prayer
of Quiet, which, if you know anything about like what
they called the Prayer of quiet is functions, and it's
almost identical to like what Zen Buddhists would describe or

(02:15:29):
practice as as transcendental meditation. So like come the beginning
of the early nineteen or sorry, the early nineteen hundreds
and late eighteen hundreds. It basically got from both Protestant
and predominantly Catholic text, you know, the Prayer of Quiet

(02:15:53):
and Christian mysticism was basically erased from the conversation entirely.
But again, same reason why you would want to know
what percentage are your population is gifted in that particular
capacity because they could potentially be a threat. Same reason
why Neil Degrass Tyson is on TV trying to convince

(02:16:16):
you your biological robot in a meaningless universe. Right, this
shit matters. What you focus your intention on matters, right,
Like what you spend your time thinking on, right, where
you shift your focus matters. Right. It's not that movies

(02:16:40):
are predictive programming. That's a a perpetual conspiratory thing like Oh,
they have to tell you what they're going to do
before they do it. So that's why they make movies
like no dummy, No, they can't do it by themselves.

(02:17:00):
The reason that they show it to you in movies
isn't because they are going to do it. It's because
they need you to do it. It's not predictive programming.
They're not telling you what's going to happen. They are
painting an image for you. Because your brain with movies,

(02:17:25):
when it logs memories of movies, it logs them the
same as if those It puts them in the same
place as memories of things that actually happen to you.
Your brain in the moment, your brain is in disting,
inability to distinguish it from reality. So when they are
showing you these things, they are basically directing hundreds of

(02:17:50):
millions of people's intention on something. And it's not that
it was always going to happen. They just needed to
let you know, which is fucking idiotic. It's that it
probably wasn't going to happen without your help. So be
careful what you focus your mind on, think about it consciously.

(02:18:14):
And one last thing I'll say, and I know it's
getting late. But a lot of you have wives or girlfriends.
So the reason I want to say this in the
first episode instead of wait for the second episode is
because it's important and it'll probably make the woman that
you love a happier person, because she probably carries a

(02:18:38):
lot of guilt that you don't know about for not
her fault. And I think Pete, you and I talked
about this briefly when we first started talking. But women
are kind of half in half out of our world,
and I like this other place, the spirit place or whatever.
It's not a separate place as above, So below does

(02:19:00):
not mean what you think it means. It would be
more accurately described in today's part lance. As above is below.
Below is above. It's the same place, right, like in
Constantine when he has to go to Hell to go
like find stuff or whatever. If you notice, basically he's

(02:19:25):
in the same place, right, it's just a layer of
like is reality, right, So Hell is where he is
just like somebody kind of like peeled away the layer
like it exists in the same place he exists. He
just doesn't see it, right. So women are vessels spiritually

(02:19:47):
and physically, right, They they don't in the hermetic sense.
They're describing as of the waters. Right. So the reason
that women have intuition, right, the reason they're able to

(02:20:08):
know things better than men are, we're good at the
will part. Think back to what I said about will
right and god right, they're better at the knowing part.
So it's because they're they're half in that that water
that like river, so a, they're really susceptible to outside

(02:20:34):
forces invaders, like to what Pete was describing. And if
you ask your girl and you say it in a
very you make her feel extremely safe and accepted because

(02:20:55):
she's not going to want to tell you these things,
and you don't want to ask her what the things
are specifically, because she'll be too embarrassed and ashamed to
tell you. But what psychologists joking, I say jokingly because
it's kind of a fucking sick joke, but what they
call intrusive thoughts women get all the time, literally all

(02:21:17):
the time, and they're horrible thoughts. If a woman is
a mother, let's just say the thoughts that she gets
just randomly, just pop into her head that she can't shake.
They're really really horrible thoughts. For some reason, when a

(02:21:37):
woman becomes a mother, they ramp up. But so ask
her if she has this, and she'll be embarrassed to
tell you, and just make her feel extremely comfortable because
and accepted, and you know, not judged negatively. Because women

(02:21:58):
carry around a ton of guilt for thoughts that aren't theirs.
And I mean that literally. So what you tell her
you don't have to ask her what specific thoughts are,
because by this point you'll already notice what I'm talking
about that she is very ashamed. And what you do

(02:22:20):
is you say, all right, well, next time you get
one of these, I want you to call it out
as foreign. You don't have to shout it out loud,
but just in your head, say, this isn't mine. Whose
thought is this? Where is it coming from? This isn't

(02:22:43):
my thought. And the second she identifies it as foreign,
it's gone and I'll never come back. A different thought
may come back, but she can banish that one just
as fast as she banished the other one. The second
she had made or the second she calls it out

(02:23:03):
as not from her, not hers, it goes away immediately.
And that's because it's not from her, it's not hers.
That's why I say intrusive thoughts kind of like a
fucking joke, right, because what the psychiatrist can't tell you

(02:23:24):
is where that thought is intruding from. And dear listener,
if you've made it this far, i'm sure you have
an idea. So just have that conversation with your check.
You'll probably take a huge load off of her shoulders,
because she guarantees she carries around a large measure of
guilt for some of the things that pops into her head.

(02:23:48):
It may not be every day, may not be every week,
but she'll know what the fuck you're talking about, and
she'll probably get really embarrassed and a little defensive. So
sorry to extend another five ten minutes. It's already been
very late. But have that conversation, see how it goes,

(02:24:09):
and alleviate a small bit of pain. She'll probably be
really thankful that you did.

Speaker 1 (02:24:19):
Yeah, that's good stuff. That's good advice.

Speaker 2 (02:24:21):
All right. Cool, Well that also meant is a good
way to end it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:26):
Yeah, perfect, all right. Yeah, Happy new year to Happy
new year to you, and happy new year to everyone listening.
And we'll be back for part two real soon. I'm
looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (02:24:38):
Awesome, man, have a good evening too.

Speaker 1 (02:24:44):
All right, Part two. It's been a while, man, haven't
talked to you. How are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:24:48):
Doing well? Doing well? Happy to be back.

Speaker 1 (02:24:51):
Yeah, some.

Speaker 2 (02:24:56):
Positive reactions from our first one, which was very encouraging.

Speaker 1 (02:24:59):
Yeah, I mean there were some people who were sniping,
but I mean you can't please all the fagots all
the time, you know, too many fagots.

Speaker 2 (02:25:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:25:09):
So well, what were we talking about right before we
started talking about Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:25:20):
So, like at the core of evil, if you're if
you're saying, you can't attack God, so you have to
attack creation. What is creation? Right? His logos or reality?

Speaker 1 (02:25:34):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:25:34):
You basically have to attack nature, right. I guess you
could say attack truth, but really truth is difficult to
attack with without you know, jump off points. So you're
going to evil is going to have to function off
of natural truths and then invert those truths, right. Inverting

(02:25:55):
is perverting. Really, so if you have to function right,
you basically have to lie. You can at the core
of any of the ways that we see it manifesting
in society, at its base layer is a lie. It

(02:26:16):
could be a little lie, or it could be a
big lie. It doesn't matter. But because it's a lie.
It metastasizes very fast. Uh that that old saying that
a lie will make it around the world before the
truth gets its pants on. And there's a lot of
truth to that because because a lie is fit for

(02:26:38):
purpose where reality is not. Reality's purpose is to like
nature's purpose is to exist, right, it's reality.

Speaker 1 (02:26:49):
Reality's purpose is to be a grounding stone, like truth
is meant to be a grounding stone. A lie is
meant to be chaos, and truth is stuck in one place.
Chaos goes everywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:27:06):
Yeah, But I mean like when you when someone lies,
they usually have an objective, right, So therefore the lie
is tailor fit to a particular facet of the agenda.
And I mean this is It's also why God warns

(02:27:27):
us so much about pride, because it's not his least
favorite sin. It's not why he's warning us. He says
very clearly that I don't make these laws for my benefit.
They're for yours, right, So it's not like us, you know,

(02:27:48):
the Ten commandments or I mean, I hate to break
it down as kind of obtusely as that, but none
of those things on that list, including the worshiping of
other gods, is for God's benefit. Right, they're for ours.
But with lies, they spread rapidly because they they're they're

(02:28:18):
fit for purpose. Right, it's in like they have an agenda,
and they kind of fit like a lock and key
inside somebody's head. Like if I if I want to
take something from you, or I want to convince you
to hurt yourself or whatever. No matter what it is,

(02:28:39):
it's going to be against nature. It's going to be
against your nature or you know truth. The terms are
almost interchangeable, really, So I'm going to tailor it for
my audience, which means it's going to spread rapidly because
it's made just for them. But when something spreads rapidly, inherently,

(02:29:06):
it undergoes problems of scale. So if a lie spreads
very very fast, right, you would think that that would
be good for the lie's sake. Anyways, look at how
many people let's say infecting for lack of a better term.
But what is actually happening is it's increasing exponentially the

(02:29:29):
amount of areas that it needs to defend right. The
farther and farther a lie spreads, the more and more
area it has to defend against right, so it actually
becomes weaker at scale, and it knows this right inherently,
the liar knows that he is lying, even though everybody

(02:29:51):
else doesn't. There's a built in paranoia to a lie.
There's an inborn paranoia to evil it. It's very feminine
in its nature. I don't mean that negatively, you know,

(02:30:12):
for ladies. I don't mean it like that. I mean it.
It overreacts. It is the same way a parent. A
guilty person always goes over the top in their defense
before you even ask. Right. So, not only does it
need to defend itself even when it might necessarily be

(02:30:35):
strategically disadvantageous to do so, but really it can't defend itself.
So what it seeks to do is tie itself into
everything else. It thinks it's building up support, but it's
actually not right. So like the same lie will weave

(02:30:57):
itself through institutions, right, it'll weave itself through the church.
It'll weave itself into or try and weave itself into
your day to day life. It thinks that the act,
the more it can anchor itself to, the safer it is.
But it's exactly the opposite of that, right, because if
you tie yourself to everything. A loss in any front

(02:31:23):
is a loss on all fronts. So as a lie spreads,
as evil spreads, it gets weaker at scale. It doesn't
get weaker, it gets more vulnerable at scale. Right, So
that means you don't really have to tell the truth
in all places. You only need to tell the truth

(02:31:48):
in one place, and it's undone in all places. A
loss in the church is a loss in the political.
A loss in the political is a loss in the church,
is a loss in academia, is a loss in your workplace.

(02:32:10):
Because it has to spread everywhere. It is weak everywhere,
which is why it's always undone by the most unlikely
of servants, the most simple of people.

Speaker 1 (02:32:27):
Well, what we're talking what we're talking about is if
the like, if a lie can spread around the world,
and you know, it spreads out really fast, what you
do to combat that is you have to make the
world smaller. And that's what the Internet and that's what
social media has done, because they just can't lie anymore.

(02:32:49):
As soon as they yeah, as soon as they lie, somebody,
somebody's all over it, somebody's investigating it, and which is why,
you know, one of the things we learned from from
anyone who's ever read, actually sat down and read, not

(02:33:10):
looked on Wikipedia. It's actually read firsthand. Joseph Gebels. Gebels
knows that he never told a lie. Everything he said
was true. It was just he chose exactly what he
needed to say when the book Germany Must Perish came out.

(02:33:33):
I mean, I think he was the one who said,
this is this is the greatest gift they could give us.
We don't even need to we don't need to construct anything.
All we need to do is show it, to show
it to the German people. And yeah, I mean, and
now when you have when they lie about something, I

(02:33:55):
forget what was I'm trying to think of one, but
they're numerous in the last especially the last I would
say ten years, where they came out with a lie
and immediately the autist just jumped right on it and
it was boom. It was just the lie was destroyed,
was uncovered within a matter of hours in most cases.

Speaker 2 (02:34:16):
Yeah, that really is reminiscent of how twenty twenty four
played out, like for the very first time, it actually
seemed like they were on the back foot. But I
think that I I don't think people have an understanding

(02:34:40):
of like kind of how this what they're up against,
I guess, and what tools they have at their disposal.
There is a documentary it was made in the seventies.
I have to track it down for how often I
use it as a reference point. But it really shook me.

(02:35:03):
It's one of those images that stays with you for forever.
You wish you could unsee right. And it's BBC, which
is funny considering, you know, knowing that the British intelligence
had such a big role in the Iranian Revolution, it's
kind of funny to see BBC on the ground shortly

(02:35:25):
after the revolution. This is like five or eight years after,
and they're walking on the street and there's this woman,
this old woman who is just ecstatic, just happiest old
lady in the world. And they asked the translator, and
the translator asked the old lady like, why are you

(02:35:46):
so happy from because there's like a bunch of people
coming down the street like this, you guys coming from
a celebration, And she goes, no, we're coming from hanging
my So were distributing counter revolutionary propaganda and I turned
them into the revolutionary Guard and they were hung and

(02:36:11):
she's ecstatic, and by this point in time, two other
old ladies are next to her, and they're equally as ecstatic.
I didn't realize that at first, and she is like
jabbering on and the translators trying to keep up, and

(02:36:32):
she's basically saying that the other two women had turned
in their sons as well, and they were also hanged.
And at that point I kind of like stopped listening
because that's when I noticed that I was basically watching

(02:36:53):
the same facial expressions in perfect just synchronized, perfectly, happening
across all three women at the same time, Like the
same eyebrow raises, the same smiles, the same head turns,

(02:37:16):
all at the exact same time. It was like the
non verbal communication version of Acquire. It was the same voice,
and I rewound it and I put it on mute,

(02:37:38):
and it's basically like I'm watching the same voice coming
out of three different women simultaneously. And the only other
time I saw that again was in a video that
somebody had shared on ACTS. I think it was like
twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three, is when like

(02:38:00):
the trannies were really when they would still put boots
on the ground, you know, like when they would counter
protest and protest, and there are these there's this one
regular woman and she's being screamed at by three, just
four grotesque monsters. And I saw it again, and I

(02:38:26):
think I shared it with a couple of people in
group chats. If you're listening and you remember, you know,
I'm sorry I did that to you, made you watch it,
But you're basically watching the same voice be spoken through
many mouths simultaneously. And I think that movies like The

(02:38:47):
Exorcist and movies like Poltergeist or whatever do a great
disservice to people trying to understand really how this shit works,
because I think we established in the last episode. I

(02:39:08):
don't know if I touched on demons at all and
how they operate, but they exist outside of time and space.
So it is as easy for a demon to be
in one place as it is for him to be
in a hundred or a thousand or a million. If

(02:39:30):
you're outside of time and space, future, past, present, it's
all just one mushy thing, and being here or there
doesn't really matter to you at all. You could it is,
like I said, as easy to be in all of
these places simultaneously. So we think of demonic possession as

(02:39:56):
a one to one relationship, and that could not be
further from the true ruth. It is the exact opposite
of a one to one relationship. The same demon will
possess hundreds of people, thousands of people simultaneously. And there's

(02:40:18):
a funny thing about I don't I don't know anything
about about Warhammer forty K except for like what I've
overheard in group chats. It missed me. I never got
into it, but I had a couple of noons over

(02:40:38):
my house once there was like a it was like
a book signing nearby, and a bunch of guys were going,
and they asked if I was going. I was like, no,
I didn't hear about it, and they were They're like, oh,
well it's near you you should go. And so a
bunch of them flew in and they were all in

(02:40:59):
the our hotel rooms, like, you guys are being stupid.
Just come hang out and then we'll all go over together.
So when everybody's in my living room, one of them
started explaining to me how these these trans people were
basically like this monster in Warhammer forty K, and I

(02:41:26):
asked him what he meant, and he said, you know,
I can't remember what he said. Uh, Nergall was the character.
And I remember saying like, excuse me, what did you
just say and he's like, oh, no, it's a it's
a character in forty K. And I was like, no,

(02:41:47):
it's not. It's not a character in forty K at all,
and he's like, no, yes it is. He's very adamant
about it. I went into my library and grabbed a
book off the shelf and came back and opened it up,
and I was like, no, it's not what you're doing.
The name that you just said, and what you are

(02:42:07):
describing is a six thousand year old Samerian demon called
Nergal right, that is hermaphroditic and has a pension for castration.

(02:42:29):
That's what you're describing to me. And like the room
kind of went quiet, and I was like, all right, Well,
so either that is the coincidence, a crazy coincidence, or
the guys at Warhammer know a lot more about the

(02:42:50):
stuff that I know about then they may have let on.
So I had them all give me the lure, and
one of them showed me I'm going to use it
as a jump off point because it, whether intentional or not,
it does a great job of describing things that are

(02:43:11):
otherwise very difficult to describe. One of them shared a
YouTube video with me when he tried to describe the warp.
I guess there's this place called the warp, And as
he was describing it to me, I was like, just
just stop right there. What you're basically describing to me

(02:43:32):
is probably one of the best analogies I've ever heard
for what it means. When someone like me will say
as above so below right, it's basically like, oh, well,
you know, all of these good energies or these good
feelings will be and you know, go in the warp,
and you know, after enough of them, they start to accumulate,

(02:43:53):
and then that turns into a consciousness when it gets big,
you know, and it just pops into real life. I'm like,
what you've just described is an egg grigor. That's exactly
what an a e grigor is. So warhammer forty k.
There's a lot of truth to it, and I think
that's why people so instinctively go and pull from it,

(02:44:16):
because it does fit our reality more than I think
any of them really know. And I don't know much
about the creators of it, but apparently they're well versed
and some of the very hard to find and very
strange stuff that I am into because it's just there's
too many coincidences. So a lot of the ways that

(02:44:38):
these things function are very similar, right as in, like
they don't A good way of describing a demon or
how evil works like that is to describe them more

(02:45:04):
like armies, because that's really what they are. Very rarely
will it just be a person. And they're not exactly
stupid either. They don't see very good. They do smell
really good, is in like, they have a good sense

(02:45:25):
of smell for some reason, but they don't see great
and they try and work smart and not hard. So
it's not a coincidence that all of the people in
power are evil. If you're evil, if you are a demon,

(02:45:52):
if you're Satan himself, you don't want to possess janitors.
You don't care. Your goal is to destroy creation, all right,
So you can have a million janitors and not get
yourself any further to that goal. But you get twenty

(02:46:15):
politicians and now you're starting to get somewhere. Power is like,
you know, demon bait. It really is.

Speaker 1 (02:46:33):
Does that be that would seem to lend itself to
the theory that they're just basically empty vessels. And you,
if you are in a position where you are really
not supposed to hold any kind of ideology and you're

(02:46:54):
just there for power, that pretty much opens yourself up.

Speaker 2 (02:47:01):
This was said. God does not warn us about pride
the most because it's his least favorite sin. He warns
us about it the most because it's Satan's favorite sin.
It's the easiest door to get into the house. It's
practically unlocked because the second you start, let's say you

(02:47:27):
just chalk up a couple victories, whatever they are, whatever
you're doing right, it won't be long before you think
that you are doing them, and those are your victories
and you're responsible for them. And that will make you

(02:47:49):
think about the thoughts you have in a much different way,
because all of a sudden, you know you're the shit.
Everything you think of is the greatest. Now you're paying
a lot more attention to that little voice in your head,
aren't you. And that's where he gets you every time,

(02:48:12):
Because not all those voices in your head are your own.
You have no way of distinguishing pride is the easiest.
It's the easiest way you will basically throw open your
front door just being really into yourself or really you know,

(02:48:39):
high on a series of victories or your intellectual prowess
in whatever it is. If there's one thing that I
would urge people to police the most and recognize when
they're doing it, is pride. Pride is the easiest. All

(02:49:01):
the others are situational, but it's it's pride that gets
you because you can't distinguish what's you and what's not.
So a lot of people they they find it very

(02:49:28):
hard to believe that they're not just dealing with bad
people or confused people all right, or you know, people
that don't understand the consequences of their actions. And this

(02:49:53):
is a question I got from a specific person. Last things,
If you're listening, I told you I wouldn't forget. But
people have a hard time grappling with this because they
see it as a whole bunch of discrete actors making individual,

(02:50:16):
discrete decisions. Right. I believe like the source of the
question was in regards to like Jewish power and how
come each seemingly autonomous individual adomized unit it seems to

(02:50:41):
break whatever it is that he touches, and he was saying,
He's like, there's no way that you know, that can
be like an organized thing. It It just has to
be like something in their nature that causes them to
do this. And they're all just running on the same code,

(02:51:04):
and all of these things are just disorganized, decentralized disaster.
And the way I want to explain it is that
even though you see a bunch of discrete actors on

(02:51:25):
the game board, each being discreetly bad, all right, you're
going to come to a problem when you start seeing
these meta consequences occur, right, Like, there's no secret And
this is the problem a lot of people have with

(02:51:46):
just this power structure in general. How does is there
a secret meeting of all the academicians in the United
States where they all get together and decide to subvert

(02:52:08):
nature in a specific way. We would hear about those meetings,
for sure, some would get out. And how come what
they're doing just happens to line up with all the
things the doctors are doing getting kids to castrate themselves.

(02:52:32):
Did all the psychologists and therapists get a meeting too?
Do they coordinate with that other meeting of all the
academics is there, you know, a quarterly journal that goes
around to make sure everybody can stay on the same page.
And how come everybody in Hollywood is also independently working

(02:53:01):
towards the same goal. He couldn't understand it except for like,
this is just a fractal structure based on very simple,
broken code, and it's not right. Just because you see

(02:53:25):
a bunch of discrete actors making individual decisions, that's just
what you see. It's what you don't see that matters.
What A much more cohesive way of looking at it,
and frankly, a lot more logical, is that you're seeing

(02:53:46):
a bunch of independent, discrete actors acting under the influence
of a singular, unified consciousness. That's what you're seeing. And

(02:54:11):
this consciousness, by its very definition, is outside of space
and time. And that gets you back to that the past,
the present, and the future is all just one mushy
mess to him. So he already knows what the long

(02:54:34):
term ramifications of each one of his actions are, because
it's as easy to examine the past and the present
as it is to see these things in the future,
which is the only way you would be able to
do such a thing, because if you also notice that
all of these unconnected, independent we'll call them bad things

(02:55:01):
initiatives all seem to converge, right, almost like they hit
a critical mass, to the point where by the time
you realize it, it's already too late. Because it is everywhere,
all at once. It is impossible for us to see

(02:55:24):
things outside of a human being's time scale, the timescale
of our life, and we can't imagine anybody else being
able to either. The same reason. It drives me nuts
when people say, like, oh, how come God lets bad

(02:55:46):
things happen to good people? Well, to you, that maybe
how it looks, but you don't see the thousands of
consequences that come from that, and what those consequences look
like one hundred two hundred years in the future. Right,

(02:56:09):
You're only seeing the bad thing that happens in front
of you now. And that's why a lot of the things,
I mean, it's like the number one Reddit atheist argument.
It's like, why does God make a school bus full
of nuns or orphans whatever crash over the side of

(02:56:30):
a bridge, Right, it's their inability to see things outside
of their own life or outside of the consequences that
are directly. You know what we say all the time,
second and third order consequences. Now do second and third
order consequences throughout time? Right, what's just a village? God

(02:56:55):
doesn't see us just a village. Right. He already can
see the cathedrals that are going to go there. He
already sees the city it's becoming, are going to become.
He sees the end, and so does Satan. And we

(02:57:16):
need to understand that such a consciousness exists. And a
lot of people have a hard time with that because
just something that wants to destroy creation is hard for

(02:57:36):
us to wrap our brains around, right, Like it would
be like a bank robber that doesn't actually rob the bank,
he just lights all the money in the safe on fire.
Right to us, it's hard to understand, like, why would
he be doing that. He's already done all the effort

(02:57:59):
of doing a Why would he possibly just wreck everything?
It doesn't make any sense. Why would you want to
destroy the world like you have to live here? Like, no,
he doesn't. And I've had a hard time explaining this
to bsuomers, except for I came across a book and

(02:58:27):
it is like a kind of popular sci fi book.
It's called the three body problem. And really the only
useful tidbit I pulled out of it. I'm not a
huge science fiction guy. Well i am, but not that kind.
Is that there is this alien race on a planet

(02:58:49):
several thousand light years away and it has recognized humanity
and is mobilizing to destroy it. So what it does
is it sends this quantum force, this invisible force ahead

(02:59:14):
of it instantaneously, right. And what this does is it
acts on everyone in the world subconsciously, right, makes them
enable to progress civilization, It makes them do extremely self

(02:59:34):
destructive behaviors, nihilistic behaviors, and it basically freezes humanity's progress
during that period of time that they are traversing the
stars to come and destroy us, because that's a long
period of time, right, Like, you may be able to

(02:59:55):
beat humanity up now, but by the time you get here,
you may have a fucking problem. So the way it
goes about doing that is it acts on everybody invisibly, psychologically, mentally,

(03:00:17):
and has humanity adopt or think that they came up
with whichever extremely self destructive ideologies and behaviors that basically
neuters the civilization's advancement. It begins to eat itself. And
when I was describing that to someone at the end

(03:00:40):
of it, I was like, now you understand how Satan works.
You can't imagine, you know, a conscious entity destroying everything
because what would be left nothing? What did you win?
What did you Yet they have a hard time wrapping

(03:01:02):
their brain around it like that. That's the point, there's
nothing left for anyone. You took God's most prized possession
and you smashed it. But when you frame it in
the terms of an alien civilization, people are able to
understand it because that's exactly what Satan does. That's exactly

(03:01:28):
how he operates. It's exactly how demons work.

Speaker 1 (03:01:32):
I think it's I think it's easier for people to
believe that, oh, they all just go to the same schools,
they all just go to the same synagogues, they all
that's where they're getting this from. It's that logically that
makes no sense. You can see, Yeah, you can look

(03:01:56):
at homogeneous societies to teach all the same things, that
have the same curriculum, and people believe different things. So
how do how does that happen? How do how do
you have how do you have a homogeneous society that
just all of a sudden, one day decides that they're

(03:02:18):
going to destroy it, that a mass of people, that
the people in power, they just what they just one
day all go oh, I mean, you know a lot
of it has to do with greed. When you reading
two hundred Years together with doctor Johnson, you start to

(03:02:39):
realize that, well, yeah, I mean, these are Jews who
are doing this, who are collective collectively in many cases
especially the leadership, are targeting Christian groups and the the

(03:03:00):
indigenous groups to enslave them, whether it be with usury,
whether it be with alcohol, whether it be with whatever
it is. And you realize it's like, well, wait a minute,
how they get there, How are they allowed to do
Who's allowing them to do this? It's like, oh, they
were invited in. And I think that's what a lot

(03:03:21):
of people don't understand is they think that oh, this,
you know, this just happens because these entities are so
much stronger than us. No. No, they're invited in. They're
invited in by greed, and they're invited in by something
they already mentioned, pride and people with pride. People. So okay,

(03:03:51):
so there's a group of people who have members of
it who historically have subverted pretty much every culture they've
gone into. How they get there? How have they been
able to have so many of them bought into the

(03:04:15):
same Even if they're not trying to all subvert the
same exact way, they're all subverting. Not all of them,
of course, but all of the subverters are subverting. The
ones in the group are subverting. How does that happen?
What do you what? Evolution? That's what they're taught. No,

(03:04:40):
I mean, socialism clearly shows that the average Jew was
being a poor Jew, was being victimized just as much
as a Christian was in many cases in Russia, in Poland,
in White Russia.

Speaker 2 (03:05:02):
Who are they being victims by?

Speaker 1 (03:05:05):
Well, that's the question. That's the question, you know, And
that's when you have to you you have to at
least consider when E Michael Jones says that this started
at the foot of the cross, Yes, with a rejection
of logos. Well, when you reject logos, you open yourself up.

(03:05:29):
You become an open vessel because now you don't have
the truth and anything can come in.

Speaker 2 (03:05:38):
That's what he didn't really tie together. He came so close.
But for a spiritual guy, I'm surprised he missed it,
because that's exactly the case if you have no anchor.
And really, when I said, like, who specifically is doing
the subverting, right, who is just I think it was

(03:06:01):
Israel Toof's book History of the Jewish People. That's extremely sad,
all right when you read it, it kind of takes
you aback by learning the things that they would do
to their own people. And it wasn't just like whoever

(03:06:26):
had more power at the time or whatever that did it.
It was strictly the priestly cast or at that point
in time, the tumult A class, all the rabbinical class
that did it. They effectively, I don't know how else

(03:06:47):
to describe it, but they ruled these communities with a
barbarism that we would find, I don't know, in some
demon possessed tribe in the middle of Africa. I mean,
if if you talk to any of the African Christians,
they will tell you. I mean, Dee tells a really

(03:07:11):
good story about his conversation with African Christians, and they're
very frank about it. There is a lot of demons
in Africa, you believe. He says that they are like
flies on horses. They're so there's so many of them,

(03:07:36):
and the type of barbarism that we would see in
these in these tribes, we would see in the shettles
the crime or the punishment for trying to read or
learn another language was being boiled to death, like this

(03:07:58):
is what they were doing to their own peace people.
And there is a there is a video. It's on Twitter.
I was trying to find it. I'll have to attach
it in the show notes. But what it is is
about eight minutes long. It's this rabbi explaining the special

(03:08:22):
relationship that educated theological Jews have with demons and how
it's different than relationship than any person that's not Jewish
has with them, and how you know they give them

(03:08:42):
special powers and you know they can come into them
at any time. It's it's really kind of wild. I
almost wish I was able to pull it up and
I could let Pete play it, because it's it's worth
listening to a little bit of it. Really is that good?

(03:09:03):
Maybe if you can throw it in there in the
edits maybe in the intro whatever. But I don't have
to go to the rabbi telling me. I could just
go to Lex Wexner's nineteen eighty nine interview with the
Waltz or with the New York Times, where he tells

(03:09:23):
them all about the little demon that lives inside of
his head that tells him what to do, and how
it's the demon that makes him makes such keen business choices,
and the demon tells him to do all types of
stuff that benefit him, and he has long dialogues with

(03:09:47):
this demon. What's his name? Adelson? There's an interview with
him saying an almost identical thing, and you can actually
look up all types of interesting people, all generally of

(03:10:10):
a certain type of people, but that at some point
in time, we'll tell you all about the little demon
that lives inside their brain. So either it's just the schools,

(03:10:33):
as Pete was saying, or it's just you know, an
ideology or the way that they were raised. No, listen
to them when they tell you, all right, what's his name? Damn?

(03:10:56):
I wish I knew we were going to get on
this topic, because I have a whole bunch of little
interesting quote but some of them are brave enough to
flat out tell you the difference between the God that
Telmutic Jews or cabalistic Jews worship, and how that's different
from the god that you think that they worship. He's

(03:11:18):
a different guy. They know he's a different guy, and
they think it's hilarious that you don't. It's a unified
consciousness outside of time and space whispering into the ears

(03:11:41):
of millions of individual, decentralized people across the planet. That's
what it is, and it's much harder. I should go
into this a little bit more, but let's I can.

(03:12:05):
I can wrap with that because it is a bit
of a white pill at the end, because I mean,
this is all very very black pilling when I don't
mean it to be. But I know that there was
some other feedback we should probably touch on because I
want to make sure everybody gots there. We can just
touch on some of some of the the questions and

(03:12:27):
comments people had.

Speaker 1 (03:12:30):
Well, did we specifically did you specifically address the the
how evil and how lies spread and relate that specifically
to how the quote unquote the left how there in concert?

Speaker 2 (03:12:55):
Well, I mean, funny enough, it was your episode with
doctor Rafael Johnson about the the murder of the Romanovs
that was a huge light bulb for me. I've had
this conversation with a couple of other of our guys

(03:13:19):
woes was one from Stone Choir, which everyone should go
check that podcast out. It's amazing. But he and I
were having a conversation about when this started, and he
was like, I am of the firm belief that Satan

(03:13:41):
was let out of his prison sometime in the early
nineteen hundreds, sometime in the last century. I was like, well,
he's like, I can't prove it, you know, I don't
know how you could prove it, but it had to

(03:14:03):
have happened then, because he's like, it's just like a
total phase change, and it's everywhere, all at once. And
that's when I remembered that interview you did with doctor
Raphael Johnson when he talked about some of the photos
of the basement that the Romanovs were killed in and

(03:14:26):
what was on the walls. So everybody thinks that, you know,
when an animal or a person is sacrificed, they think
it's the taking of the life that is the sacrifice, right,

(03:14:47):
that that's the currency. The thing was alive and now
we killed it for you. It's not at all what's happening.
It's the blood. God tells us in the Bible. It's
the blood right, So it's not the killing of a
thing or a person, it's the blood of a thing

(03:15:11):
or a person. This is why in Genesis he tells
you not to eat meet with the blood still in it.
He's like, that's you know that life is for me.
So the higher hierarchies exist everywhere in nature because nature

(03:15:37):
is logos. It is it is God right. His logos
binds and it sets the parameters of our reality. And
that's really what nature is. Nature is Him and the
hierarchies that exist down here. Authority down here is authority

(03:16:08):
up there. Hierarchy up there is hierarchy down here. They
are the same thing, all right. So let's say I
was some I don't know, some'm occultist, right, and I

(03:16:38):
wanted to I don't know, summon a demon or a spirit.
If I do such a thing in t shirts and
flip flops, depending on how powerful the spirit, I'm going
to get my life ruined and I'll probably die or

(03:16:59):
I'll end up the same asylum, which is the same thing.
But let's say if I did it in a white
robe or a toga, and let's say I had a
sword on my hip, a crown on my head, and

(03:17:25):
I somehow managed to get a hold of enough lion
skintin to make a belt, and I do the exact
same thing. Not only am I not going to get destroyed,
but I will find whatever it is that I summon
quite cooperative, because it could be a fucking burger, king crown.

(03:17:50):
It doesn't matter, right, they don't see that great, but
they smell really good. That demon would be looking at Solomon,
That's what he'd be looking at. Right. Authority down here

(03:18:15):
is authority up there. A king down here is a
king up there. Right, there is an actual spiritual mechanism
in monarchy because we make it so right, our collective
views of a person's authority is their authority. So I

(03:18:41):
don't know what type of evil you could unleash into
the world. But blood is basically spiritual gold. Right, If
you had a currency, if there is monetary unit that

(03:19:03):
that world ran on, or at least they ran on,
it would be blood. So I don't know, like I said,
the type of evil that you could unleash into the
world by butchering a king and his queen and his

(03:19:25):
children and draining them of that blood. But I can
imagine you could do a fucking lot. I don't know
exactly how much blood it takes to release satan that
was seem I never asked, but I bet you there
is enough there. And doctor Raphael Johnson said that there

(03:19:50):
were things written on the wall in blood. Am I correct?

Speaker 1 (03:19:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:20:01):
Do you remember what they were?

Speaker 1 (03:20:03):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (03:20:06):
They were sigils. They were calling collect Every demon's got
a phone number, so to speak, so does every angel.
But yeah, the fact that the most noble blood left

(03:20:34):
in Christendom was ritualistically drained and used in a sacrifice
in a dark, dirty basement covered with bloody sigils on

(03:20:54):
the wall, and the birth of ideology that would become
a human meat grinder into which millions upon millions, hundreds
of millions of souls were fed into, and even the

(03:21:17):
souls that weren't fed into the meat grinder physically, billions
more would be derastinated and stripped of their Christianity and
their faith over the period of the next sixty two
one hundred years. All from that moment, I think is

(03:21:43):
too much of a coincidence to overlook. I don't know
how you'd release the devil out of his tomb, but
I'd imagine it'd looks something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:21:59):
And if blood is power, if blood does exactly what
you're describing, orchestrating the death of sixty million, yes, over
a five to six year period, what can that unleash

(03:22:22):
upon the world.

Speaker 2 (03:22:27):
You're you're feeding something, right, like you're making a deal
with something. There's a I know we talked about in
the previous episode. Consciousness, collective human consciousness is ability to

(03:22:51):
influence and shape reality, all right, But that's only certain
groups of people, all right. Other groups of people don't
have that, and most all of them don't know that

(03:23:12):
they don't have it, except for one particular group, and
that one particular group at least the their Maji class.

(03:23:33):
I don't want to call them, you know, spiritual leaders,
because what they're doing is magic. It's not any type
of spiritual vocation whatsoever. I mean, I can pick up
a cabala, I can pick up a zohar, and I

(03:23:56):
can read you exactly where it comes from. It was
their passages. I don't know if I did this in
the first episode, did I where the kabbala actually comes from?
What it is?

Speaker 1 (03:24:12):
Well, I mean I can tell you right now. Well,
I mean, oh, where it comes from and what it is.
I mean, I can. I pulled up Shahak's book The
Jewish History Jewish Religion, where he describes exactly what it is.
But yeah, I mean, I don't remember if you told,
if you mentioned what the where the Kabbala came from.

(03:24:32):
So go right.

Speaker 2 (03:24:33):
Ahead, pull up the book. It's probably the most well
documented so far. But the Kabbala is basically ripped hall
hog out of what's called the Greco Egyptian magical Papyri.

(03:25:01):
It is a series of magical texts about two thousand
years old and written in blood. You notice that a lot,
by the way, kind of it kind of keeps coming up, right.

Speaker 1 (03:25:17):
Hollywood even tells you. Hollywood even shares it with you.
They don't have to. That's what some people think, Oh
if they have to share that. No, they don't have to.
They're bragging. They're telling you entails. They're telling you in fiction,
much the way certain writers that I've been reading lately

(03:25:38):
have written fiction books telling you how to do things like, oh,
overthrow governments and things like that. Fiction is funny, people
should I've I've take I've gotten back to starting to
examine more fiction lately because there. There's a lot there
that certain people know. They can't come out and tell

(03:26:02):
you exactly what it is, but they can tell you
exactly what you need to do to do a certain thing.
But they will they'll show you how to do it
through fiction.

Speaker 2 (03:26:17):
That is very funny. So here we have I should
have I should have booked marked these.

Speaker 1 (03:26:31):
But something I learned about something I thought about too
after we finished the last episode where towards the end
we were talking about the Rosary. Yes, notice how Hollywood
has met portrayed the Rosary for the last sixty or

(03:26:52):
seventy years. When you see someone praying the Rosary in Hollywood,
who's praying in a Hollywood movie? Who's who was doing it?
Nuns or little old ladies? Yes, we could the fragile. Well,

(03:27:14):
I never actually thought about that. Why because they because
they want that association. They want that association with Oh,
that's that's something that you're your crazy Catholic aunt does.
That's not something that a man would do. What use
would a man have for that. It's a way to

(03:27:39):
discredit it without really people knowing that it's being discredited.

Speaker 2 (03:27:44):
Realizing that, Yeah, it makes you not want to pick
one up. Why would they want to do that.

Speaker 1 (03:27:56):
Maybe there's power in it. Yeah, I mean Padre Pio
seems to think it was.

Speaker 2 (03:28:05):
I was about to ask, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:28:09):
And that priest he just says it, just bring me
my weapon. He needs it at a certain he needs
it at certain times. And when you go back through history,
you will see when men, when Christians are in war,

(03:28:30):
especially in the last five six hundred years, there are priests,
there are men praying the rosary, and the amount of
times you will see you can read accounts of the
battle being won by a small amount of a small
group over a larger army while the Rosary is being
prayed for them, and then you'll read other accounts where

(03:28:54):
the same army that's not happening and they get defeated.
It's rather.

Speaker 2 (03:29:01):
Padre Pew is one of the most well documented mystics
in modern times, right like scientific journals of all different
types traveled around to him and documented his ability to

(03:29:25):
levitate by locate as an appear in two places simultaneously.
Funny that be able to move things through prayer, and
I mean, where is where is my Let's see if

(03:29:49):
I can pull it.

Speaker 1 (03:29:50):
Up, and let's remind people Padre Pio. It didn't live
in the thirteenth and fourteenth century. No, you live in
the twentieth century. He lived in Mussolani's Italy.

Speaker 2 (03:30:03):
Yes he did, Yes, he did. So there is what
I mean documentation. I'm not joking. I mean the type
of documentation that you would find in pretty much any
type of scientific inquiry in the thirties and twenties. Like

(03:30:24):
these aren't stupid people. In fact, they were probably even
more skeptical, more atheistic than they are now. Something very
powerful happens when you throw intension behind the name of God.

(03:30:44):
Matthew booked twenty one, verses nineteen to twenty one, and
he noticed a fig tree beside the road, and he
went over to see if there was any figs, but
there was only leaves. He said to the fig tree,
may you never bear fruit again. Immediately the fig tree

(03:31:06):
dried and withered up. When the disciples saw this, they
were amazed. How did the fig tree wither and die
so quickly? They asked, to which Jesus replied, truly, I
tell you, if you have faith and you do not doubt,

(03:31:28):
not only can you do what was done to this
fig tree, but you can also say to this mountain,
go throw yourself into the sea, and it will be done.
John fourteen twelve through fourteen. Truly, truly, I tell you,

(03:31:48):
whoever believes in me will do the works that I
am doing. He will do even greater things than these,
because I am going to my father, and I will
do what you ask in my name, so that my
father may be glorified in the sun. If you ask

(03:32:11):
for me anything in my name, I will do it.
That's exactly what Padre Piu was doing. He would tell
you that he was not doing anything, Matthew seventeen twenty,

(03:32:41):
because you have so little faith, he answered, For truly,
I tell of you, if you have faith the sides
of the size of a mustard seed, you can say
to this mountain, move from here to there, and it
will move. Will be impossible for you. Yeah, So that

(03:33:15):
brings me to a good point. I hate to let
that one not set but in those consciousness experiments, because
right now it probably all sounds like a dualistic mess.
You know, evil the same as good, just different. It's

(03:33:38):
not the case at all. Right, There is a clearly
defined testable I mean like scientifically testable imperative to the
universe to whatever it is that God has built. I

(03:34:03):
don't think that I know, or we'll ever know what
exactly the universe is, but we are able to extract
some rule sets out of it. So in those quantum
randomness generator experiments where the fluctuation of quantum particles, we're

(03:34:32):
able to go in one direction or the other by
bending physics. They also did similar experiments. Then you have
to control for a lot, So you have to do
these experiments a lot of times. It's the only way
you can pull out tease out the trends. So I'm

(03:34:56):
going to use this. I'm going to fudge the numbers
a little bit just to make it easier to tell,
all right, or else we're going to get into decimal
places and just numbers I won't be able to recall
off the top of my head. Right, Let's say if

(03:35:19):
you prayed for a month straight for one hundred thousand
dollars to come and find its way to your mailbox
for whatever reason, it won't be a zero chance you
will have made some impact, right, So we'll just say

(03:35:43):
it is n value. Whether it's two percent or one,
it is a measurable impact. Right. But let's say that
your neighbor was Your neighbor had cancer and her chemotherapy

(03:36:12):
was costing so much money she was going to lose
her house and be homeless. And the remainder on her
mortgage was one hundred thousand dollars. So let's just say
that for the next month you prayed every day for

(03:36:37):
one hundred thousand dollars to not show up in your mailbox,
but to show up in the mailbox next door. And
what do you think the chances of that would be?

(03:36:57):
And plus you know two and plus five. No, no,
it's not. It's n times twelve point four something something.

(03:37:23):
So when prayer is directed for the benefit of others
with no benefit whatsoever to you, the person praying, for
some reason, we do not know why the reason is.

(03:37:45):
But no matter where you do similar studies wherever in
the world. I think this has been replicated three times,
so twice in the US and once in Europe. So
I can't say it works everywhere in the world. We
haven't done it everywhere in the world yet. But what

(03:38:11):
I can say is that for some reason, when conscious
intention is put towards the selfless benefit of others, somehow

(03:38:35):
the architecture, the structure of the universe we live in
makes that more than ten times more efficacious. Right, So
when you're praying for something other than yourself for some reason,

(03:39:00):
it's ten times as powerful more and this is measurable.
These are not just nonsense numbers, right. You can derive
the chances, just like the lottery tickets. You can derive
through rather complex but doable mathematics, the chances of anybody

(03:39:22):
walking into a gas station at any moment in time
and pulling a one in a trillion number. It's douable math.
So when there are fluctuations in those it takes a
bit of math, but it's easy to see. And the

(03:39:44):
only thing you need to do is replicate. And after
you've replicated one hundred times a thousand times, right, each time,
you're becoming more and more and more sure that what
you're seeing is signore and not noise. Right. You're replicating

(03:40:06):
to remove randomness, and then the outcomes are statistically undeniable.
You have to admit that something is happening. You may
not know what it is or why, but it seems
that there is a trade wind in our universe and

(03:40:28):
it blows in only one direction. So you can blow
against you can try and sail against the wind, and
maybe you'll move a couple inches, but you flow with
the wind at your back, and you'll move a couple miles.

(03:40:50):
So there is a moral imperative built into the very
fabric of our reality. And what is our reality, our
reality logos, what is logos logos is God. He There
is no place in the universe I can go where

(03:41:10):
He is not. I can't go outside of the universe.
So no matter where or how far I go, whether
up or down, or left or right, whether forward in
time or back in time, there's no point where He

(03:41:31):
is not there, because He physically is the ocean we
all swim in. So when I say that there is
a moral imperative to the universe, an easier way of
saying that would be God is good. You do not

(03:41:54):
live in a dualistic universe. Evil is not the same
as good. In fact, evil is much weaker than good.
So the battle lines are pretty clearly drawn. And that's why, which.

Speaker 1 (03:42:12):
Is why, which is why evil, which is why evil
thrives off of the week, not the strong, because.

Speaker 2 (03:42:21):
There's so much more of them. There's so much more
of them, and that's why one hundred one thousand anonymous
retards on Twitter can change the course of the most

(03:42:44):
powerful nation in the world, and thus changed the direction
of the world. Because good is orders of magnitude more powerful.
Truth is orders of magnitude more powerful. And when it's selfless,

(03:43:10):
which is what I kind of think anonymous posting is,
isn't it right? When I see somebody steal my ideas,
I can't get angry. I've already made that deal, right,
I will get zero credit for this. Then why are
you doing it? Because it's the right thing to do?

(03:43:31):
It's only downside? Really, what is the upside for somebody
speaking out against the regime? What is the upside for
any of the things that we're doing now? I'd love
for somebody to lay it out for me, because from
where I'm sitting, it's only professional risk, career risk, financial risk,

(03:43:54):
social risk, familial risk. I would love for somebody please
tell me where the upside is and doing any of this,
I haven't been able to find any So why do it? Oh,
and you'll get no credit for it? You know.

Speaker 1 (03:44:21):
The when you talk about intention, the the evil spirits
have done a really good job of making that a
bad word. With the health and wealth preachers and yeah,
the yeah, the I forget what that that course was.

(03:44:46):
That was was the Secret in the two thousand The
Man's will be called the Satan. Yeah, the they've done
a really good job of making it sound really associating
it with people who are evil and who are full

(03:45:06):
of pride and full of greed and full of you
and have no who know that what they're telling people,
what they're teaching people is not going to help them.
It's only it's not going to help their people. It's
only going to help them. So, you know, even using

(03:45:28):
a term like intention has had to be attacked and
had to be denigrated because of the power that it
actually has.

Speaker 2 (03:45:41):
Grant Cardoon is a demon. He's a monster. It's what
Grant Cardone is, the author of The Secret, is a monster.
He's literally inviting demonic possession into each and every person

(03:46:02):
that reads that book. Right, you're gonna show him a door,
but not tell him what's inside. You're gonna have them
sign on a dotted line when they have no idea
what they're signing for. You're evil, You're a monster. And
Grant Gardnal knows a bit of it, knows everything that

(03:46:25):
I know I'm sure, if not more, I'm sure his
library would be really fucking interesting to take a walkthrough
and watch. He's gonna when he goes, it's gonna be messy,
and it's gonna be he's not gonna go nicely. That's

(03:46:49):
the unifying thing that you see in all of them
that use this for their own self benefit, in their
own name, I guess would be a way to put it.

Speaker 1 (03:47:02):
Who was somebody who pushed all of that? Who was
somebody who had the cardoons of the world and all
of these intentioned people, all of the all of this
on their show, and then it comes out that they
hang out with Harvey Weinstein, hang out with Diddy, and

(03:47:23):
hang out with how what the hell was it guy's
name was running the pedophile ring? It was a white
guy something God or something?

Speaker 2 (03:47:30):
Oh the Yeah, Yeah, John of God.

Speaker 1 (03:47:34):
Yeah, John of God?

Speaker 2 (03:47:36):
Who baby.

Speaker 1 (03:47:38):
Yes, Oprah Winfrey? Who pushed all of this stuff and
then has associations. I mean, there's a picture of her
which just basically looks like her handing off a young
girl to Harvey Weinstein.

Speaker 2 (03:47:58):
I think we should take a look at Saint Simon
of Trent. Everybody should familiarize themselves with Saint Simon of Trent.
If you think I'm lying, or you think Pete is
being hyperbolic, you tell me that demons don't exist. Well,

(03:48:22):
what was this what's his name that that did pass
Overs of Blood? Toe Off? Ariel toe Off.

Speaker 1 (03:48:32):
Yeah, Ariel toe Off, Yeah, the son of a this
was it, the son of a Hubbad rabbi. Maybe I
know his dad was a rabbi.

Speaker 2 (03:48:42):
Yeah, I want to It would be very interesting to
maybe one day do a conversation between myself and and
Hunger the dim erchant, because it accidentally happened in a
space where he was describing to me these these strange

(03:49:04):
rituals that he witnessed when he spent time in Israel.
Ariel to Off basically translated.

Speaker 1 (03:49:14):
Ariel Tooff is the son of Eliot toof the former
chief Rabbi of Rome.

Speaker 2 (03:49:21):
Oh so nobody h a loser? And isn't he? Wasn't
he before he published? A celebrated historian before he became
the A enemy number one.

Speaker 1 (03:49:37):
He's professor of Medieval and Renaissance history at Barilan University
in Israel. He came to prominence for his book pass
Over a Blood, and it was criticized and the toe
Off wrote, but was unrelated what happened to him? Let's

(03:50:02):
see second book appeared and afterwards so Off respond to
the critics. He said that the possibilities this is that
certain criminal acts disguised as crude rituals were indeed committed
by extremist groups or individuals demented by religious mania and
blinded by desire for revenge against those Yeah, I mean, well,

(03:50:26):
you mean like the Jews who started slaughtering the Christians
by the hundreds, which kim Onlnitski had to put down
in what sixteen forty eight because they thought they thought
they had made it so that their Messiah was coming back,
so they just decided to start killing everybody in the area.

Speaker 2 (03:50:47):
When was Simon of Trent fifteen something?

Speaker 1 (03:50:50):
Yeah, I'd have to Simon Trent is fourteen seventy five
seventy five.

Speaker 2 (03:50:59):
The Simon of Trent. It is a canon ie scene
who was a martyr, even though he was probably too
young to know that he was being martyred at all.

Speaker 1 (03:51:12):
I mean, he was allegedly three years old.

Speaker 2 (03:51:16):
Yep. Luckily he was baptized or they might not have
wanted him. So Simon of Trent was abducted, he was stolen,
he was kidnapped, and he was taken away. And there's
a there's there's probably that. I think there's four or

(03:51:39):
five dozen well documented cases in Ariel Toaff's book. But
Simon of Trent was crucified upside down and he was ritualistically.

(03:52:02):
The only thing I could describe it with is basically
being poked with an ice pick and drained of blood,
which was then both poured on the ground and drank
by the participants of his ritual murder. It was done

(03:52:27):
on Passover. Some of the other murders happened on similar dates,
not Passover, but other religious festivals, religious festival days, and
after assignment of Trent was drained of blood and messages

(03:52:51):
were carved into his skin. He was thrown in a
ditch about fifteen miles away. And if it wasn't for
the distinct characteristics of the child, he probably wouldn't have

(03:53:11):
been recognized. Apparently he had strikingly golden blonde hair. So,
you know, baptisms were like a big thing then in
medieval communities. It's not like you know today. If you

(03:53:31):
get baptized, maybe your family and some family and friends
would get together the whole community, would you're basically it's
a celebration. In these tiny medieval communities, every birth is
a celebration, every marriage is a celebration for the whole

(03:53:55):
community because it is and every death was mourned by
the community. So everyone was there for Simon of Trent's baptism.
Everybody there knew what Simon of Trent looked like, even
the passing merchant that saw him in the ditch and

(03:54:17):
got the authorities when Simon. When Simon of Trent was taken,
someone smart enough had a young girl follow the people

(03:54:40):
that took him to the house that he was ritualistically
murdered in. And when it was announced a couple days
later that they found the body, the young girl told

(03:55:01):
the lord. And I believe at this point in time
investigators got sent from Rome, and the perpetrators were found
literally with the room and the upside down crucifix covered

(03:55:25):
in blood and the utensil. Like I mean, it's the
most fucking open and shutcase in the world. And you
could say, oh, maybe they were railroaded. Really, I believe
Simon of Trent is and two or three others are
some of the most well documented medieval legal cases that
came out of medieval Europe. So there is a faction

(03:55:52):
of people, if you can call them people. Remember, people
don't value blood. Spirits do. Blood is the life that
they don't have. So I don't know anybody that has

(03:56:21):
a hankering for blood to the point where they need
to ritualistically murder children and drain it from them. I've
never met anybody like that, But apparently they exist because
we keep on seeing it everywhere except in non Christian

(03:56:42):
parts of the world, then we don't see it. It's
only in Christian parts of the world that are cohabitated
by a specific group of people, with a sub section
of them with very very very strange religious beliefs, and

(03:57:08):
they document them profusely in their text, and there's very
little difference in what they are saying. Then what Lex
Wexner said to The New York Times, except Lex Wexner

(03:57:31):
left out what he feeds that little demon that lives
inside of him. I believe you. And Darryl Cooper did
an episode on not just Jeffrey Epstein, but John Podesta

(03:57:55):
and his brother.

Speaker 1 (03:57:55):
That was the first time I ever interviewed Darryl. We
talked about how ridiculous, ridiculousness of something called the Pizzagate
or anything surrounding it.

Speaker 2 (03:58:08):
Absolute, absolute conspiracy theory, nonsense, just insane, and you would
have to be insane to believe such a thing. But
the one thing Darrel was having trouble understanding was why

(03:58:35):
why they do what they do to kids? Why kids?
Why not teenagers? Why not middle aged folks? It's not
just the destruction of innocence, because a person will never

(03:59:06):
be closer to God than he is when he is firstborn. Right,
There is no opinions, thoughts, opinions of others that just
lump together like a pile of trash and form something

(03:59:29):
called the ego. Right, someone's conceptualization of themselves. Right, a
person's personality or a person's idea of themselves. An infant
is just pure awareness, just experiencing the world, has no thoughts,

(03:59:55):
no preconceptions, loves every face equally. An infant is the
closest to God you will ever find on this earth.
Which another thing that happens. This part's kind of gross,

(04:00:19):
and I don't like saying it, but it should be said.
To understand a lot, and you can take the most
materialistic point of view and this will still disturb you,
or you can take my point of view, and not
only will it disturb you, but you'll be able to

(04:00:41):
explain a lot of shit. So when a child before
the age is where they hit puberty, right before their
hormones start to kick in, right, the level of neuroplasticity

(04:01:02):
is unlike any other time in life. But something very
strange happens when you sexually abuse a child before the
age of puberty. There's literally infinity scientific papers that you
can peruse at your leisure about this. But it takes

(04:01:27):
the neural pathways in the brain and it bifurcates them.
It snaps them in half. If you imagine your brain
is an antenna, that's a wafer, right, it snaps it
in half. And another way of putting that would be like,

(04:01:52):
let's say you have this beautiful house and I cut
it down the middle and I put a four rent
sign on the other half. I've turned your lovely home
into a duplex. And the reason why these sick motherfuckers,

(04:02:22):
these vessels do it ritualistically, which you and Daryl outline
to a point where it's really indisputable that it is
being done ritualistically. You do that, so you can kind

(04:02:46):
the time the open houses and pick who moves in.
You get to pick your neighbors. And if you look
at things like let's say homosexuality or transgenderism and not

(04:03:13):
just the desire that they all have to replicate themselves
bisexually assaulting children before the ages of puberty, but you
will find they themselves were sexually assaulted before the age
of puberty. So all their little houses got chopped into

(04:03:36):
duplexes and somebody else moved in. And you can actually
do a line. You can overlap the charts and you'll
basically get one line and not really but neras makes
no difference. Yes, the rates of sexual assault childhood, early

(04:03:56):
childhood sexual assault, right, the rates of that which are
drastically increasing, and the rates of disassociative identity disorder the
ID also known as multiple personality disorder. So you can
take the entirely materialistic point of view and say, okay, well,

(04:04:23):
in doing what they're doing to children, they are causing
multiple personalities to happen. And I could say, okay, well
where do that other personality come from? And you'll have
a really shitty answer for me, all right, But I
could take a person with this associative identity disorder that

(04:04:48):
has one of They've done this several times where one
of their identities is blind, and they will stick that
person in a cat skin tube and they will see
that the areas of the brain that process vision go dark,

(04:05:11):
which is impossible for a human being to do. Personalities
or otherwise, you're seeing physiological changes in the human brain.
So I guess that means it's a lot more than
a fucking personality, isn't it. It's not a funny accent

(04:05:35):
that they put on. So my explanation is able to
explain a lot more things. But you have to make

(04:05:58):
one assumption for it to explain all those things, and
that is, not only does evil exist, not only does
Satan exist. Not only do demons exist, but they're in

(04:06:22):
your world here and now around you. You may pass
one on the street, one may be sworn into office
for your state, county, or city. One may preside a

(04:06:48):
Satanic mass in the most in the highest church in
the nation. It would explain a lot more things. It
would also explain, to bring it back to the original,

(04:07:15):
a whole bunch of individual actors, individual people in a
completely uncoordinated fashion with no communication between each other, you know,
carrying out discrete individual actions accidentally creating this much larger thing,

(04:07:48):
almost as if they are in constant coordination with each other,
even though we know that they are not uncoordinated. People
are acting in a coordinated facs. How does one explain
such a thing? I haven't heard a good one. That's

(04:08:08):
not the one I'm giving you now. So the thing
about winning a fight is first recognizing that you're fucking
in one. And no matter how much you don't want

(04:08:29):
to be in a fight, how much that scares you,
and it fucking well should because now you know that
there are steaks in a fight, there are steaks. If
you lose, it could be the hospital, it could be

(04:08:53):
broken bones, lost teeth, or in war, it could be dead,
or it could be the loss of your immortal soul.
Every fight has stakes, and whether you want to be
in a fight or not, the other person gets to

(04:09:17):
decide whether you're in a fight or not. You're only choice.
I was going to you next.

Speaker 1 (04:09:24):
One, and I was going to say, it's hard for
people to if people can't recognize that they're in a fight,
I mean, we're in a war. If there are people
out there who don't recognize we're in a war. They're
not going to recognize a fight.

Speaker 2 (04:09:43):
Yeah, they think this is just politics. I'm sorry. Find
me a previous example of politics that involve castrating children.
Find me a previous type of politics that burnt down
churches and the rival political faction rallied and just like

(04:10:12):
literally celebrates themselves desecrating images of Christ or wearing T
shirts that say how great Satan is. Find me a
political theorist that will explain this to me. I'll wait,

(04:10:38):
like where, Oh, they're just confused. It's just the left, bro.
They don't know any better if we give them information,
or they just don't know the outcomes of their decisions.
They're stupid. I hate the term libtard. Hate it. These

(04:11:03):
people aren't stupid, they're not retarded. I mean, Janet Yellen
isn't retarded. She's a very smart lady. All of her
actions seem retarded to you because you think her job

(04:11:28):
is to manage the economy correctly, and oh, she's just
so dumb. She keeps fumbling the balls. It's just butterfingers.
She's just so doofy. Or maybe you don't actually know
what her job is Oh, all these trans people seem

(04:11:50):
to have a real problem with Christ. That's weird. They're
probably just stupid. They're probably just confused. Oh, they're going
to erect statues of Satan in capitol buildings. It's so silly.
That's so dumb. Oh, Satanism is so cringe. I was

(04:12:16):
so gay. Oh. Look, the FBI is throwing women who
pray silently outside of abortion clinics in prison for nine years.

(04:12:36):
Oh the left really just they have no breaks, bro,
The left is just just insane. They're so stupid. No,
traditional Catholics right going to Latin Mass are at the

(04:13:06):
top of the FBI's list. Oh they're so stupid. Oh,
they just hate America. No, the Stone Choir guys had
the FBI come after them, come and interview people around them.

(04:13:34):
Traditional Catholic Latin Mass Catholics are having the FBI spy
on them. What is the political utility of any of this?
Where is it in in Schmidt or where is it

(04:13:56):
in Leviathan or the Machiavelians. Where does it talk about
tearing down God? Where is that in politics? They're not

(04:14:17):
lib tards, they're not stupid. They're vessels for something much
smarter and much older than you, and you need to
give it the respect that it deserves because it was

(04:14:43):
here long before you, and it'll be here long after you.
And its only job is to hate you. That's it,
It's all it does. That's what they all do, is
to hate you and lie to you. You could look

(04:15:08):
at that book, what is it The Authoritarian Personality? I
can hold that book up and I could like, I'm
sure there's countless church fathers that have written what a
healthy Christian society looks like, what a godly society looks like,

(04:15:31):
And I would imagine that that book The Authoritarian Personality
picks apart each and everything. I bet they don't miss
a single thing that any of the church fathers said
about what God wants a Christian society to look like.

(04:15:56):
I will say one thing about the Stone Choir boys.
I think they hit it on the knows with why
the regime hates white people, because that's really the only
thing is is why white people and their analysis of
the IQ question and the time preference and moral continuity.

(04:16:27):
There is only one race that has been able to
propagate Christianity, not just preserve it, but also propagate it.
The Adiq African, no offense Africans. But you know, those
are the breaks. Within a generation or two generations, they

(04:16:51):
revert back to their old thing or start merging the
old thing and with the new thing. All of the
people that were basically evangelized, all the people that you know,
all of the Wallhockans that were carving people's heart out

(04:17:17):
by the tens of thousands to one of their gods.
Which seemed to actually a funny thing about all these gods,
of all these peoples that we came across before Christianity,
it seems that the center point of all of their

(04:17:40):
religious interactions involved blood. So knowing that blood is the
spiritual currency, it makes you think a little bit differently
about the blood of Christ. And let's say, how powerful

(04:18:08):
it was enough to literally forgive the sins of countless
millions of people. It seems that all of these other people,
the Mayans, the Incas, their gods were just hungry for blood.

(04:18:34):
And there's really only one people on the planet that
have been able to propagate Christianity. So if you wanted
to kill Christianity in a generation or two, you could
just get rid of all the white people and then
it's a fad of complete or you dilute them, you

(04:18:56):
mix them. I don't know what it is, but I
think there's something more in the blood than just its
spiritual currency. I've been really into DNA computing. Everyone should
look it up. It sounds insane. It is insane to

(04:19:22):
find out that your DNA one strand of your DNA
has more computing horsepower, more memory storage capacity than our
biggest supercomputer. Maybe there's a little bit more going on

(04:19:44):
in our blood than we think. I don't know what
it is, but it seems that demons want it and
demon possessed vessels want to destroy it. So I don't

(04:20:04):
need to know what my enemy intends to do. I
just need to know what he's doing, and that knowing
what he's doing is going to be bad for me. Okay,
so they hate Christ. They really dig Satan. They really

(04:20:30):
like the castration, perversion, and bending of genders. Anybody that's
even poked around at Satan at all will notice that
he's a dude with tits. But they seem to have

(04:20:55):
a hankering for the blood of unborn children, newly born children,
prepubescent children, a desire to castrate and invert those children.

(04:21:19):
Put satanic statues places, tear down churches, pervert clergies, pervert
the teachings. I'm really fucking struggling to find a political
utility in any of that shit. But I know a

(04:21:43):
whole bunch of people on the timeline, a whole bunch
of people that say that they're on our team, that
will tell me that it's just political, it's just politics.
They're just stupid tarts. They're done. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:22:09):
The when you go back, especially too, like the Spanish
Civil War, when you realize that they the plan was
to exterminate half of the Catholics in the country. They
figured if they got rid of half, the other half

(04:22:29):
would fall in on And you look at the way
you know they did it, throwing, putting the bodies in ditches,
putting the bodies in cemeteries, things like that. The priests, Yeah,
the disinterminent of nuns and priests, and just how bloodthirsty

(04:22:56):
they were when it came to the clergy. And when
Thomas's Thomas pointed this out when we we recorded talking
about this, that in the span of the whole Inquisition,
which lasted probably let's call it three hundred and fifty years.

(04:23:16):
At three hundred and three hundred and twenty years roughly
probably best estimates, three thousand people were found guilty and
put to death, not only of being heretics. That was
really in the beginning. It just became a court after
a while. Double that were executed in the first six

(04:23:43):
months of the Spanish Civil.

Speaker 2 (04:23:46):
War, double that and less than ten a year.

Speaker 1 (04:23:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (04:23:59):
The year years.

Speaker 1 (04:24:00):
Yeah. But blood thersty, you know, blood theirsty. But then
you look at the Spanish Civil War and killing double
that in the first six months from June thirty six
to December thirty six, and the amount of churches that

(04:24:21):
had to be burned, seminaris, it had to be burned,
all of these things that needed to be to be
dealt with. Well, why why? Because you can just you
can defeat a people and get them to fall online.

(04:24:45):
You can take over a government and pretty much people
will bend to your will. Unfortunately, even some very people
who consider themse almost be very pious, you will see
them bending to the will of the zeitgeist. Why did

(04:25:08):
this have to happen? Why did it have to happen
that way? And you look at the people who are
doing it, and they were all acting as one, I mean,
all of them. There was. There was very little descent
once you start really reading it. There was very little

(04:25:29):
descent in the ranks. And you can actually, you can
actually name a couple of people, two or three people
on that side who spoke out against it. But the
fact that you can name two or three people on
that side shows you how little, how few people spoke
out against it. It was just sort of what needed

(04:25:51):
to be done in order to bring in the new
world that they wanted.

Speaker 2 (04:26:04):
So there's a bunch of I can't remember if it
was the previous owner of mister y Grove or whatever.
I can't remember where I got to hear these, but
somebody had gotten hold of not just journals and diaries

(04:26:29):
of the the white Russians, but also some of the
unaligned populations who were basically forced to garrison troops of
either side, because you know, some of these towns would

(04:26:52):
fall into the hands of the Reds one month and
then they'd be liberated the next month, only to be
pushed back again. So a lot of the common people
got to see, you know, basically both sides, both types
of people, and the way that which they describe the

(04:27:17):
Reds and not just the Reds, right, so some of
the they describe it as like a demonic fever took
over all of Russia, because it's not it wasn't just
the Reds, but it would be like just common bands

(04:27:39):
of criminals or people would become criminals, and they like
neighbors would become just as horrible as the Red Guard,

(04:28:01):
all the people that have lived together for their entire
lives peaceably, like they described it like all.

Speaker 1 (04:28:08):
Happened to the happened in the Balkan Wars in the
nineteen nineties as well.

Speaker 2 (04:28:16):
Yeah, neighbors, Yeah, I mean like because like in Checchia
that happened, right, but they were like programming the Russian
population there.

Speaker 1 (04:28:33):
Yeah, in Russia, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (04:28:36):
Just specifically over the period of the revolution. These guys
describe a madness that had taken over everybody, even the
unaligned people a right, like it like something of a
fucking movie. Man, is really chilling to read. And then

(04:28:57):
you find out what was happening in the Romanian prisons
and how similar stuff was being rolled out on the
ground in Spain, Like I don't Darryl Cooper's stuff can
be a bit much, And I mean that in the

(04:29:18):
best way possible is in like, you'll get more detail
then you want. But I urge everybody to listen to
as much as they can stomach. His series called the
Anti Humans and what was happening in the prisons.

Speaker 1 (04:29:41):
I'm glad you qualified that with as much as you
can stomach.

Speaker 2 (04:29:46):
Because I couldn't make it through it.

Speaker 1 (04:29:49):
Yeah, it's hard for good people to It's gonna be
hard for good people to deal with that.

Speaker 2 (04:29:56):
And don't listen to it with your kids anywhere in
earshot or your wife. Certain women are more vulnerable than
we are, Like thoughts aren't just thoughts and hearing. If

(04:30:18):
you can make it two hours into that, I think
I made it. If you make it three hours into that,
you're a stronger man than I am. I couldn't. I
tapped out. It is impossible to listen to what he
recounts and continue to believe that you are in a

(04:30:44):
political fight. And there's a reason why they want you
to believe you're in a political fight. And this is
why anybody that thinks that they're in a political fight
tells other people that they're in a political fight. Like
first off, in the first episode, you and I did Pete.

(04:31:04):
I think we pretty much put a nail in the
coffin of materialism. But yet there are materialists among us
that think it's cool or that. I mean, deep down inside,
they're just resentful, right, maybe their dad was a pastor
or whatever, because it really doesn't make any sense at

(04:31:31):
this point if you're in this far in the game,
and I mean, this is coming off the back of
a Trump victory, I should sound more ecstatic, but I'm
not because I know this is when people are going
to be laziest, and that terrifies me. People are going
to think that we won. In what world would you

(04:31:53):
ever think that you defeated the fucking Antichrist by electing
a president by voting? In what world could you be
so naive to think that the fight's over or the
left is done? Bro, They're demoralized, they're finished. It's not

(04:32:14):
the left. You're not fighting a political fight, and the
risks of you losing aren't political. They're unfortunately eternal. And
the reason why they work so hard because if they

(04:32:37):
were to just appete, if they were to just do
what they do and they didn't say fuck all right,
like if all of a sudden they started burning down churches,
erecting altars to the devil, to wearing you know, Satan rules,

(04:32:59):
to T shirts whatever. All right, and they were castrating
kids and they just didn't say fucking anything at all.
They just did it. We would be fucking burning them
at the stake. It would be the most evil thing
we've ever seen. But since they couch it in a politics,

(04:33:26):
in a fake politics. It if you accept the enemy's framing,
you've already lost. There is a reason that this is
being framed for you politically. If you are to remove
that framing, you see this much more clearly. Right. The

(04:33:54):
political framing is there for their benefit and your detriment.
It hides what's actually happening, and it makes you miss
the way to actually fight it. It's deliberate. Right. If they

(04:34:16):
frame it politically, the only actions that you will take
and the only weapons you think are available to you,
are political ones. Right, you've effectively stood on the big
X painted on the floor for you, idiot. If you

(04:34:38):
know that everything they do and that the core of
it is lies in lying to you, you have to
discard everything in its entirety and work from your own
first principles, chief among them that this fight is political

(04:35:00):
because it's not, well, what happens if you know we're
talking at political ws. Why would we not want to
continue go in the direction we're going, because it stops
you from getting to the only place that these things
actually fear, right, the only thing that the only man

(04:35:24):
that the regime that Satan actually fears. If I were
to sum it up in an archetype, it's not a
warrior and it's not a mystic. It's the combination of
the two, which is why I think that you can

(04:35:58):
bribe and I don't mean so you the word literally,
but you can bribe a warrior with glory, honors, and prestige.
You can pressure, silence, torture, subjugate a priest. A mystic

(04:36:23):
you can't fight back, all right, But what do the
two have in common? The warrior and the mystic. They
both greet death as a friend, as they are not
scared of dying. They are not scared about the only

(04:36:50):
weapon that the regime has against you, which is either
to make your life miserable or to end it. And
the mystic and the warrior have completely different reasons for

(04:37:10):
why they act the way they do. All right, The
warrior guy is not scared of dying, because people die
around him all the time. The mystic or the priest
doesn't care about dying because he knows that this is
like a short pitstop on a much longer journey, and

(04:37:33):
it is probably the grossest town he has to stop in,
and it's all downhill from or it's all uphill from there.
All right, If they can't bribe you, and they can't
threaten you with making your life worse or killing you,

(04:37:58):
we're those close to you, you become invincible because really
all that they have is the fear of those things
and maybe in certain small instances, metering them out. But
this is why I think this is why the Spanish
Civil War went the way it did, because really, on

(04:38:21):
the ground, if you were to just do it by
the math, Franco should have had his teeth kicked in.
But if you listen to some of those accounts, like
the men in the Castillo, I can't always pronounce that incorrectly.

Speaker 1 (04:38:41):
How's the car? There?

Speaker 2 (04:38:44):
You go? All those guys, none of them cared about living,
and I'm sure a lot of them knew that they
weren't gonna And then you see this time and time again,

(04:39:07):
because once you take that away, it seems the most
unlikely of things happen, because if you are not scared
of dying, we're scared of the bad things that can
happen to you. You are either a an insane person,

(04:39:32):
which is possible, there's plenty of them among us, or
you have faith. And what did Jesus tell us about
having faith? And then what would happen to our actions? If
we do things with the faith the size of a

(04:39:54):
p command mountains to move, and they will move. And
that's why I think when you see situations like those men,
the only if they knew that they were going to
die and that it was basically for them a fad

(04:40:18):
to complete, the only way that they would continue fighting
and not run away is if they have faith. Unless
we can summon that level of faith, I think we lose.

(04:40:38):
Even though we may win the short term political battle.
It's only four years. It's not really much in comparison
to millennium or even a hundred years. Look what they've
done in a hundred years, all right? Everybody talks about like, oh,
the right's winning, the rights winning? Is it? Is it?

(04:41:03):
Have we made one hundred years of straight w's I
don't think we have, but they have. It's been one
hundred years of WS and we're winning for two days
and now we're winning. We've won, We've beaten them. They're demoralized,

(04:41:25):
they're finished. They waited Franco out and now his body
gets torn out of the ground and Neros makes no difference,
tossed in a ditch. So I mean, I think we should,

(04:41:52):
we should be happy, but we're fighting the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (04:41:57):
Yeah, that's where we end it. That's where we ended
right there. The reality, the reality, the reality that Franco
is not in his grave anymore. He's not in the
what is it the heroes thing? Oh and I'm I'm
fading fast, I said al Zakar, it's Alca it's Alcazar.

(04:42:23):
But the where Franco was buried and where they disinterred
him from was the field, I want to say, it
was the But he's now in Yeah, he's now in

(04:42:46):
elk Bar. Though in the he was in the Valley
of the Fallen and they I think they moved mod
Rivera's body as well out of there. So yeah, but
they won, bro, Yeah, h you can't stop fighting these people.

Speaker 2 (04:43:13):
It's not They won politically and they won militarily, but
did they win?

Speaker 1 (04:43:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:43:24):
The only way we win, say, is by changing ourselves.

Speaker 1 (04:43:28):
Yep. That's it. That's that's where we that's where we
end this.

Speaker 2 (04:43:38):
All right. It's been a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (04:43:40):
Yeah, yeah, as always until the next time. Let's see
what let's let's see where the conversation takes us. Next
time may not even be on this. We may have
to come back to this at a later date. Maybe
we need something, we need something new to talk about
and then come back to this.

Speaker 2 (04:44:00):
So I think there's going to be something.

Speaker 1 (04:44:03):
There's going to be something that's whatever it is, it's
have a good nightmare. It tick right, Uh, you get

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