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Doctor Johnson, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well? Did you tell everyone while while we were we
were not doing this for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I didn't want to do you know, I didn't. I
didn't want to say anything without your permission. So goy.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I was in the hospital for four and a half
days with all kinds of things that I've been putting
off for years, and I finally just you know, everything
gave in at once, and I'm back. I'm like seventy
five eighty percent. You know, I normally don't get sick,
so I let everything go, although in this case, you know,
for a decade. So I'm I'm better off. I'm ready
(02:37):
to get back to work, and that that's the reason
for my absence. But I have to tell you something,
and I don't know how many listeners understand this. I
think that I had a glimpse into hell, and there
was a specific reason I was very briefly put on
(02:58):
beta blockers. I don't know, a huge It's not really
a hard thing necessarily, but and I wouldn't call these nightmares.
These were metaphysical. These were These were total dissolution. These
were so frightening that despite my extraordinary capacity to describe things,
I can't describe them to you. These were the nightmares.
(03:21):
I don't even their nightmares is a very weak term
for them. Beta blockers are known for that, but maybe
not that severe. So I said, it's a toss up.
If I was gonna die, maybe it would be a
I'd have to think about it. But it was a horrible,
horrible chemical that they gave me. Now I'm on something else.
But but beta blockers are straight from hell. For what
(03:45):
the the you know, I hated to go and to
sleep and everything it was. I'm convinced that I saw something.
I wasn't near dead. None of this was his life
threatening or anything. But beta blockers, the nightmares were beyond extraordinary.
Let me put it that way. I can only imagine
(04:06):
speaking of hell. Speaking of Hell, we're at the worst
part of this book. Soviet Union in the nineteen twenties
is close as a normal person is going to get.
This was a depressing, demented decade. Unti Lendon's death in
twenty five or so, and well, this was a period
(04:28):
of all these social experimentation. The Jews had total free reign.
It was a it was a horrible error. So and
that's where we pick up. I guess.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
All right, here we go back at it Chapter eighteen.
In the nineteen twenties. The twenties in the Soviet Union
was an epoch with a unique atmosphere, a grand social
experiment which intoxicated world liberal opinion for decades, and in
some places it's intoxic cations still persists. However, almost no
(05:02):
one remains of those who drank deeply of its poisonous spirit.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The Western press was making up all kinds of crap.
Alexandra Colinti was introducing the first sexual revolution at least,
you know, the Christian era, and just you know, easy divorce,
easy abortion. The society fell apart to such an extent
that they had to stop all that and social experiment
(05:30):
table they're experimenting on people. But the Western press was
saying this was a way for the future, and you
had you know, to this day, yeah, of course it's
still persist. It persist in the universities everywhere else. This
was an error of liberation. And even when all the
evidence came out that it was exactly the opposite of that.
It doesn't affect anybody. Truth doesn't matter here, it's the
(05:51):
support of Jewish power. And this was complete Jewish power,
and anytime they're going to take over completely, this is
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The uniqueness of that spirit was manifested in the ferocity
of class antagonism, in the promise of a never before
seen new society, in the novelty of new forms of
human relationships, in the breakdown of the nation's economy, daily life,
and family structure. The social and demographic changes were in
fact colossal. The great exodus of the Jewish populations that
(06:26):
the capitals began for many reasons during the first years
of communist power. Some Jewish writers are categorical in their description.
Thousands of Jews left their settlements in a handful of
southern towns from Moscow, Leningrad and Kiev to find real life.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I wonder what that means. These were staffing all of
the new political positions, all the new offices. Of course,
you know, the state was already ten times bigger than
ever was in Tazar's era. It's tough to build a
totalitarians society in right. In Raunchiah, it was large, but
(07:03):
but new technologies were emerging. Of course, the West was
giving it all away, or at least selling it to
a discount to the Soviets. There was no threat to
any capitalist interests. They were trading as brisk as you
could possibly imagine. With these people. Banks were were set
up shop. Class antagonism was more of an excuse than
anything else. I mean, Soviet Union was it was an oligarchy,
(07:27):
so both party and ethnic class antagonism, But that was
just rhetorical more than anything else. But real life was
to get, you know, to take part in this, and
and if you're a Jew at the time, unless you
just were disgusted by this. And there were a bunch
that that that were overwhelmingly this was as close as
(07:47):
Jewish paradise as they can get. And they were rushing
in to take these new jobs and and people people
started to notice this, that people are going away to
prison and disappearing, and all these names don't sound like
Russian names who were involved in shipping these people away.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Beginning in nineteen seventeen, Jews flooded into Leningrad in Moscow.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, hundreds of thousands of Jews
moved to Moscow, Leningrad in other major centers. In nineteen
twenty twenty eight thousand Jews lived in Moscow. By nineteen
twenty three, about eighty six thousand, according to nineteen twenty
six USSR census one hundred and thirty one thousand, and
(08:31):
in nineteen thirty three two hundred and twenty six thousand,
five hundred. Moscow became fashionable. They used to say half
seriously in Odessa.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, it didn't become you know, I don't like it
when they use the passive voice. It didn't become fashionable.
They made it fashionable.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Lurie Larin, a fanatical and zealous Bolshevik leader during war Communism,
rites that in the first year is not less than
a million Jews left their settlements. In nineteen twenty three,
about half of Ukraine's Jews lived in large cities, pouring
as well into parts of Russia formerly off limits to
Jews so called prohibited provinces from Ukraine and by Russia
(09:12):
by Laurissia into trans Caucasia and Central Asia. The magnitude
of this flow was half a million, and four fifths
of them settled in r s F s R one
in five of the Jewish migrants went to Moscow.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, so it's a Russian Soviet republic. Yeah, this, you know,
and we talked about this already, be so colled forbidden provinces.
Now they went, they went wherever they wanted. It was
no way to keep craying of them. And this is
prior to the rebel I'm talking about you know, the
e even the early White era. But you know that
(09:50):
was that was hypothetical more than anything else. But that
that's this is what's what's behind all of this, is
that they're seeing opportunity here. The only can they come
in and take over and take over the wealth of
other kick people out of home that then move right in.
You know, these are these are sociopathic peoples. They had
no difficulty with the idea that you know, the old nobility,
(10:12):
despite so many of them supported them initially and they
all get kicked out of their houses. They don't It
wasn't an official nobility in Russia for the most part.
But you know, these either people were killed or set
in exile or set into the camps, which did exists
at the time. Uh, And they move right into their
houses no problem, and not to mention political power, not
(10:34):
to mention totally new economic connections, especially with the West.
Western capital was flooding into the the country. And it
makes such a mockery of Marxism, because Marxism would say
that such a society would be a threat to capitalism.
Not quite the contrary. Capitalists saw opportunities and capital came
(10:58):
pouring in, even right up until and with afterward the
Great Depression Mma.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Girski considers Laren's numbers to be substantially undercounted and points
out that the demographic change affected interest importance to the
Russian population During war Communism, with its ban on private
trade and limitations on craftsmen and those of certain social origins,
there arose a new social category, the deprived, deprived of
(11:26):
civil rights. Many quoting many Jews were deprived of civil
rights and numbered among the deprived. Still, the quote migration
of the Jewish population from by Larosia into the interior
of the USSR, mainly to Moscow and Leningrad did not slow.
The new arrivals joined relatives or co ethnics who offered
(11:47):
communal support.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's a flight of hand referring to civil rights. There
were no civil rights in Marxism as a metaphysical concept.
I've been reading Karl Marx since I was eighteen. He
completely rejects these metaphysical ideas. There's no such things as
civil rights. That was absolutely a nonsense phrase to any
(12:12):
Marxist at any level, at any point in its history.
So I don't know who these Jews are. I love
how you know this, this guy writes in the abstract,
making it seem like this wasn't a Jewish movement, but
saying that they were deprived of civil rights. You see
the fraud here. There were no civil rights to begin with.
Marxism had no room for that, there was no conception
(12:33):
of it. It was a materialist system. Civil rights don't
make any sense in a materialist system. You know, a society,
an ideology based entirely on you know, Adams and void
and nothing else. There's no soul, there's no essences, there's
no humanity, there's no only Darwin and so so it's funny.
(12:55):
I don't know the original that this was written in
Russian or Yads or what, but the phrase civil rights
made me smile, because there is no such thing in Marxism.
So he could say something like that and everyone will gasp,
oh my god, poor Jews. But the concept was totally
foreign to Marxism at any kind, on any level, at
any point in its history. From Kora Marx today.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
According to the nineteen twenty six USSR USSR census, two million,
two hundred and eleven thousand, or eighty three percent of
the Jewish population lived in cities and towns, four hundred
and sixty seven thousand lived in rural districts. Another three
hundred thousand did not identify themselves as Jews, and these
were practically all city dwellers. About five out of six
(13:42):
Jews in the USSR were urban dwellers, constituting up to
twenty three to forty percent of the urban population in
Ukraine and by Larusia, respectively.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What does that mean? Another three hundred thousand did not
identify themselves as Jews. Either they didn't identify at literally
or didn't write it down and the census. But if
that's the latter is the case, then it was a
lot more than three hundred thousand. We spent months talking
about how they evaded census counts and everything else. I
don't know if they mean literally like writing it down,
(14:14):
were Jews? I don't know why they wouldn't, but or
that they actually said that we we just weren't and
we were countered in there. These numbers are estimates at
most Jewish cities and towns, that's not interesting. They're always
they're city dwellers. The only reason they ever live in
(14:35):
rural districts is to take advantage of the peasantry and run,
whether it be brothels. You know, you can find them
in the bars and alcohol beyond the law. But the cities,
I mean, that's where the political power was going to be.
And they were always an urban people anyway. So the
eighty three percent, that sounded pretty much normal anytime in
(14:58):
Russian or Soviet history.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Most striking the provincial capitals in major cities was the
flow of Jews into the apparatus of the social of
the Soviet Government or Shahnazidsky. In nineteen twenty seven, at
the fifteenth Communist Party Congress reported on the national makeup
of our Party. By his statistics, Jews constituted eleven point
eight percent of the Soviet government of Moscow, twenty two
(15:23):
point six percent in Ukraine, thirty point three percent in Kharkoff,
the capital thirty point six percent and by Larussia thirty
eight point three percent in Minsk. If true, then the
percentage of Jews in urban areas about equal that of
Jews in the government.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
These numbers are false. I mean, they're told, and it's
a big deal for them to downplay the Jewish element
to it. Jews were a privileged cast here. Now, I
don't know the difference between being in a government meaning
happened an office, literally fat having an office, and simply
(16:02):
having political power in the communist state. So there can
also be another sleight of hand makeup of our party. Well,
that's one thing, because the party in the state were
always two different things. Eleven point eight percent of the
Soviet government. Well, the eyewitnesses this day and went into
exile said there is this nonsense number. Of course, you know,
(16:24):
the famous Georgian said, you know, he followed orders. Uh.
The overall percentage of Jews in Rush of the time
was one and a half percent males anyway, So I'll
challenge these numbers. But even as a stand, Jews have
(16:45):
a lot to answer for. But I think they're much higher,
and I don't know, it's hard to tell whether he
means just the party or the party in the state.
How he's defining political power or whatever. Now he's all
over it because he says a party. Then he says
Soviet government. Well, I'm not sure what twenty means, but
these numbers are much higher. But you know, the Soviets
(17:06):
were always very image conscious and they they didn't like
this notion. You know. Stalin said the same thing to
the Hungarians. I said, my god, every name is Jewish.
You got to get creative presidency that has no power
and find some guy who's not a Jew ins stick
him there. And they took him a long time, and
they found one Sandos I think his name, and they
(17:27):
stuck him there. He didn't do anything. But so they're
very concerned about this kind of thing, and they were
anti Jewish movements. Ald Opening the exile movement was very
anti Jujic and for very good reason. And I guarantee
you that they laughed at these numbers at the time.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Solomon Schwartz, using data from the work of Lev Singer,
maintained that the percentage of Jews in the Soviet government
was about the same as their percentage of the urban population,
and it was significantly lower in the Bolshevik Party itself.
Using or Shaina Nids or Shaanna ca Z's data, Jews,
at one point eight two percent of the population by
(18:04):
nineteen twenty six were represented in the apparatus at about
six point five times their proportion in the population at large.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Solomon Schwartz, I've dealt with him myself. This is the
same guy who had to leave the Soviet Union because
he was afraid that they weren't killing enough non Jews,
enough anti semis He was one of the leaders of
the you know, creation of the anti Semitic laws and
everything else he was. He was, of course at the
time he was there. But I think he is absolutely
(18:34):
full of it. He can't, you know, say that the
Soviet Union wasn't and you know, opposed to anti Semitism
enough and then turn around and say, oh, yeah, but
they totally dominated everything. He can't say that, So he's
absolutely going to He has every motive to downprep downplay
(18:55):
these numbers. So six point five that maybe, but again
is much higher, much higher than that. And we know
some of this because when solomin purged this same generation,
the number of Jews are so overwhelming, these numbers can't
be literally true. Not to mention the fact that we've
talked about again, how the Jews have been able to
(19:17):
hide their identities. They change their names, they move from
place to place, They're moving all over the place. If
that's been the theme here, is that they're moving all
over the place. No one knows who's who yet. This
is still a very new society. So and they know
what they're doing in terms of acting. Is this this
mafia organization? They don't want their names known for cosmetic reasons,
(19:39):
if for nothing else. Still being a Jew at this time,
this was this was a promised land.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's easy to underestimate the impact of the sudden freedom
from pre revolutionary limits on civil rights.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Earlier power was not accessible to Jews at all, and
now they had more access to power than anyone else Unquote.
According to I Bikerman, this sudden change provoked a varied
reaction in all strata of society. Schwartz writes, quote from
the mid twenties there arose a new wave of anti Semitism,
which was quote not related to the old antisemitism, nor
(20:16):
a legacy of the past. I wonder why quote it
is an extreme exaggeration to explain it as originating with
backwards workers from rural areas, as anti Semitism generally was
not a fact of life in the Russian countryside. No,
it was a much more dangerous phenomenon. It arose in
the middle strata of urban society and reached the highest
(20:39):
levels of the working class, which before the revolution had
remained practically untouched by the phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It reached students and members of the Communist Party and
the Komsomol and even earlier local government in smaller provincial
towns where an aggressive and acti active anti semitism took hold.
I can't why would that even happy.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
There's gambling, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, but this is against Solomon Swarts and he's responding
to the official state explanation. And the official state explanation
was that you have backwards workers from the countryside because
Algie American Semis, you know, they're born that way. And
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when they came into the cities as the earlier you know,
the very beginnings of industrialization western investment took place, they
were kind of out of place. They were they were
totally lost, and somehow that means you're going to be
u the anti Semite. There was never any good reason
for it obviously, so you can prosecute it. But Solomon
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will say that, you know, and he's not entirely wrong,
because you know, you could see the tremendous power that
Jews had, how they use it without any responsibility whatsoever.
To this day they won't take responsibility for anything, and
wherever they went, especially in the punitive Organs, because they
were always being watched. Even at this early date, they
(22:14):
were building a totalitarian system, at least in the major cities.
But Schwartz kind of became famous at the time of
rejecting the official explanation. But he stopped short because he
can't say he probably knows, but he can't say he
can go so far as to say, no, it's something different.
(22:35):
It's all over the place, it's totally irrational, and then
that's it. It put a period there. Of course, we
know exactly why the persecutions of the church, mass killings.
The camps were developed and functioning is even as a
portion of the economy. Already they weren't quite called goolags yet,
but there was supposed to be re education camps. All
(22:57):
this stuff is already done so, and the punitive Organs
were all heavily Jewish at the top, Sozanisan says this
of everyone's Russian liberals were saying this. Russian liberals say it,
and even now so. But he can't say that. This
guy can't say that they have to maintain the myth
(23:18):
that anty Jewish feeling or thought or action is inherently irrational,
and it's because we're superior to them, and they hate it,
and so they're gonna irrationally like it like a cornered animal.
They're gonna, they're gonna lash out. So, you know, Biekerman,
we already we dealt with him before. He was one
of these guys who says, you know, it kind of
our fault, but sorts not in a million years. And
(23:44):
I've read his stuff, you know, because he was there
at the time of courtly and I know he's full
of it and he does too, but he he can't,
you know, he can't. He has to maintain the myth.
And that's what he does in all of his writings.
And he was the guy he des fight all of
the attacks on anyone who said anything bad about the Jews.
It was never enough. He wanted something in the constitution
(24:09):
that said, you know, not just in general, you know,
hatred of one group. No, that Jews rules society, that's
a good thing, and anyone who contradicts it or complains
about it goes to the camps. That's what he wanted,
and he says that openly, and then he leaves the
country at some point. Thing that, you know, anti Semitism
is everywhere, is even in the Jewish party apparatus. So
(24:32):
I don't even know how he's defining that. And in
his books he gives these stupid examples. Everything's a pogram
to him. Yeah it's all the same, but they like
that today. But he talks about a factory a Jewish
called a name. Drew got slapped by somebody. I did
a whole extra on this not too long ago. I
(24:53):
didn't want to deal with sorts. So he came up
all the time and that was all pograms to him,
and he would exaggerate it, and people want to jail
for it. And even though we're jew we even today
you can't say jew. If you say Jewish people or
Jewish man, a Jewish woman, you can't say jew. Didn't
say jud there or anything like that. So so that's
(25:17):
what he's talking about. And he eventually left the country saying,
you know, it's it's gonna be a slaughter. Of course,
it never was. Everyone the slightest word against the Jews,
let the prison, especially this era. But he was just
he wanted, you know, he wanted he wanted this in
the constitution. Not that anyone gave a damn about a
(25:38):
piece of paper then, but that was his whole thing
to him. The Soviet Union was a intiment of Jewish power,
and nothing more.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
The Jewish Encyclopedia writes that from the beginning of the
twentieth century quote through official Soviet propaganda. Writes that anti
Semitism in that later latter part of that's twenties was
a legacy of the past. The facts show that it
arose mainly as a result of colliding social forces in
large cities end quote. It was fanned by the quote
(26:12):
widely held opinion that power in the country had been
seized by Jews, who formed the nucleus of the Bolsheviks
end quote. Biekerman wrote with evident concern in nineteen twenty
three that quote the Jew is in all corners and
on all levels of power end quote quote. The Russian
sees him as a ruler of Moscow, at the head
(26:33):
of the capital of Neva, and at the head of
the Red Army, a perfected death machine. He sees as
Saint Vladimir Prospect has been renamed Nakimsen Prospect. The Russian
sees the Jew as judge and hangman. He sees Jews
at every turn, not only among the Communists, but among
people like himself everywhere doing the bidding of Soviet power.
(26:54):
Not surprising, the Russian, comparing present with Passes, confirmed in
his idea that power is Jews, wish power, that it
exists for Jews and does the bidding of Jews.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I love how he throws in Bikerman. You know, he's
quoting the Jewish encyclopedia, and you can't expect anything else
from them. It's actually pretty reasonable as far as Jewish
encyclopedia goes. Then he throws in Bikerman. Obviously your Jewish name,
the Jewish in all corners, all levels of power. Lots
of people, you know, say that at the time. Jews
say that at the time. So but you know, it's
(27:29):
almost like the encyclopedia is semi admitting these things, but
by putting in words like perception or conceived of. It's
kind of a barrier. You know, they're not coming out
and emitting it, but they're kind of emitting it. And
you know what the Jewish encyclopedia would have to explain then,
(27:49):
is why Lenin over and over again said that the
reason that anti Semitism has to be destroyed. And again
I've said this before, but anti Semitism, they're not Semites,
they're Kazars, they're a mixed group of people. They have
no connection with Middle East. God knows the ill Testament.
So but we say that just because it's a common word,
(28:09):
and but it irritates the hell out of me. But
they have to explain why. Lenin said anti Semitism is
criticism of the USSR. Criticism of the USSR is criticism
of Jews. He said that so many times it became
a bumblesticker at the time Stalin said that early in
(28:30):
his reign. Two later on, it was a different story
when Zionism developed and the Soviet started supporting Syria. In
rock a little different then. But in this era, Lenin,
I've quoted Lenin and speeches that are based entirely on
that concept. If you were an anti Semite by definition, you
were anti Soviet. If you're anti Soviet, by definition, you're
(28:52):
an anti Semite. And the Jews en cyclopedia has to
explain Lenin's statements in many different media to that effect.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No less visible than Jewish participation in government was a
suddenly created new order in culture and education. The new
societal inequality was not so much along the lines of
nationality as it was a matter of town versus country.
The Russian reader needs no explanation of the advantages bestowed
by Soviet power from the twenties to the eighties on
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capital cities when compared to the rest of the country.
One of the main advantages was a level of education
and range of opportunities for higher learning. Those established during
the early years of Soviet power in capital cities assured
their children and grandchildren future decades of advantages visa those
in the country. The enhanced opportunities in post secondary education
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and graduate education meant increased access to the educated elite. Meanwhile,
from nineteen eighteen, the ethnic Russian intelligentsia was being pushed
to the margins.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And that wasn't just a matter again. They was pushed,
you know, like this just to happen as it fell
from the sky. This was official policy. It came into
its own and under Stalin, and some idiots call him
a Russian nationalist. Nonsense like this, never heard of the
Leningrad Purges, which were violently anti Russian, not just pushed
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to the Margians, I mean almost literally, but it's a
metaphor saying that they're totally exploited. They're not allowed to
have power in their own country, which now didn't exist
since it was a sunk into the USSR. And the
one group of people that Lenin personally and then the
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Party more generally distrusted was Russian, the ethnic Russian, because
there were so many of them at the time and
they were considered untrustworthy. Again, did Jews have to explain
why if that, if it wasn't a Jewish society, why
would they worry about you know, even Russian members of
the Party were constantly being launched because you know, Russians
are born anti Semites. We have to watch them all
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the time. We can't really trust them. And so when
Stalin got rid of this generation because they were they
were professional revolutionaries, they really weren't, you know, they were
bureaucrats of a sort. We've talked about this before, and
he needed to replace them with professionals, not just you know,
revolutionaries and Jewish nationalists and all kinds of weirdos who
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sought an opportunity for power. He needed to actually run
an industrialized country despite the industry coming from the West.
And I had nothing to do with that. They were
Jewish or not, but that means the entire thing was Jewish.
We talked about why is Stalin being called an anti
Semite and what a scam it is because your typical
you know, academic today can say, yes, Salmon was an
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anti Semite because so many of the people who he
threw out of power were Jews. It's not a coincidence.
Well they could say that, or they could say that, well,
the party was Jewish, the state was Jewish. So when
you purse anybody, any faction, it's going to be massively Jewish.
So either you admit that or you say this Solem
was an antersement, So of course you're gonna go with
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the with the latter, and God knows you. Education education
was ideologically stilted. Just like American college educators today, you
are you're held to ideological standards. If you questioned anything
you were, you know, Darwinism or anything like that. You
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were thrown out god knows what else. It's like, you know,
they had this literacy campaign, well literacy to read what,
you know, their propaganda and Darwin and all this stuff.
And that's about it. So you know, literacy is just
an abstraction. It was high literacy in all the cities
and soars Russia. But the Soviets are given these accolades
(32:52):
for that. But the point is to be able to
read what There's no such thing abstract literacy. So that's
what's that's what's happening here. So they're you know, be
careful when they use these friends. Post Secondary education, well
that that came. I don't care what fields you were in.
You had to toe the line. Uh, you weren't allowed
(33:15):
to talk. And you say you went into literature or
something like that, you couldn't talk about those, guesski anymore.
There was a whole new slew of Soviet writers who
were financed by the state. And these are the new
people you were you were reading and studying. Socialist realism
took over within a few years. We'll get to that,
I guess at some point. And so you know, and
(33:37):
again they call it culture. This is this is an
anti culture. It's like our postmodern anti culture. The culture.
You know, there was no such concept. It was simply
political power coming from a very arrogant Jewish rule in
a couple of cities, way out of proportion to their
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to their numbers, and the hatred so many of the exiles,
you know, one hundreds of thousand of exiles, also the
same thing that the hatred was palpable. And if it
wasn't for the existence of Christians or Russians, they just
kill each other. So they always needed this mythic enemy
(34:17):
of the Russian or the Czarists or the Black hundred
clergy is Lenin called to maintain peace among themselves. But
this is how they maintained power. Again, in the twenties,
it still was unclear whether they were going to stay
in power. The peasantry wanted nothing to do with them,
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and well they grew the food. They were in constant rebellion,
So it wasn't obvious that which we're going to be maintained.
The only reason that they were was cash infusions and
capital and everything else from the Western powers.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
In the twenties, students already enrolled in institutions of higher
learning were expelled based on social or origin's policy. Children
of the nobility, the clergy, government, bureaucrats, military officers, merchants,
even children of petty shot keepers were expelled. Applicants from
these classes and children of the intelligencia were denied entry
to institutions of higher learning in the years that followed.
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As a nationality repressed by the Tsar's regime, Jews did
not receive this treatment. Despite bourgeois origin that Jewish youth
were freely accepted in institutions of higher learning. Jews were
forgiven for not being proletarian.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, they were called proletarians. The word had no meaning anymore.
We talked about this too now, mean Jacob Schiff was
called a proletarian. It was denuded of all meaning at
this point. The proletarian was not a worker. These guys
didn't know any workers. Proletarian was someone who backed the
regime in one form, in one way or another, whether
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it be abroad or in the uss R itself. Were
forgiven by whom. It's such a chilly statement now, they were,
you know, to the extent that they supported the party,
no matter what their origin was. They were considered proletarians.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia. With the absence of limitations
based upon nationality for entry to institutions of higher learning,
Jews came to make up fifteen point four percent of
all university students in the USSR, almost twice their proportion
of the urban population at large. Further, Jews, owing to
a high level of motivation, quickly bypassed the unprepared proletarian
(36:34):
factory workers who had been pushed forward in the education system,
and proceeded unhindered into graduate school. In the twenties and
thirties and for a long time after, Jews were a
disproportionately large part of the intelligentsia.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, actual factory workers were not push forward. I mean,
every once in a while you would have a bright
kid or something. But you know, we're also talking about,
you know, the Jews simply took it over and you
don't need you know, fifteen percent, that's way more than
enough to take over a place and to threaten anyone
(37:09):
who may not even talk about Judaism, but anyone who
may question the system, question Lenin's policies, questioned them, the
totalitarian rule of one party, stuff like that, that's enough, you know.
And they were well organized, they were armed, of course,
they did everything together. They weren't the didn't act as
(37:30):
an individual by any means. So, you know, I said,
from the very beginning of my book on the USSR,
the last thing anyone gave a damn about was factory workers,
actual real proletarians and Marxism. They were exploited beyond belief,
right over through the entire existence of the no capitalist
(37:50):
state exploited factory workers like the Soviet Union, and it
was perfectly consistent with the rule of the party. Which
is why just because they use these terms, uh, these naives,
you know, professors of history who just take them at
their word without any criticisms of why they're using these
words and what they really mean, not just in theory
(38:12):
but in practice too, and how to you know, so
the theory kind of went by the wayside pretty quickly,
not that they ever believed in the first place, but
it was it was you know, in classical Marxism or
poletarian was someone who had nothing but their body to
trade for a small wage in the cities. That's that's
(38:35):
what a poltarian was. Someone who owned nothing but his
own body. His own labor power. Now we went through
a great detail. Why that's you know, Marx may have
said that, but I don't think you even he fully
believed that they were just a very easy, easy target.
They did not function as juiced, They didn't operates as
(38:58):
an organization. They operated as individuals totally lost in drowning
in an urban world that they had no understanding of.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
According to g Aronson, wide access to hire and specialized
education led to the formation of cadres of doctors, teachers,
and particularly engineers and technical workers among Jews, which naturally
led to university faculty posts in the expanding system of
higher education and in the widely proliferating research institutions. In
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the beginning of the nineteen twenties, the post of the
State Chair of Science was occupied not by a scientist
but a Bolshevik official, Mendelstam Lyodov.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Lyodov, Why don't we pause here, because now what's going
to happen from here on in is the economic stuff,
and we talk about people like Bukar and everything else.
This is a natural break. But again everything all of
these fields specialized education sort of, but it had to
(40:04):
be based on ideology, whether you actually believed it, or
whether you sort of believed it or whether you were
totally fanatical. Marxism was a way to justify anti social behavior.
It still is because you could always justify it. You know,
it's really a Machabelian You could justify it. I serve
(40:24):
the workers, and therefore I'm gonna rob a bank, I'm
gonna shoot a clergyman or something like that. It's just
anti social behavior. But now they can dress it up
in this in this ideology. And you know, we're going
to come across this claim that Jews were an oppressed
group of people, but we know better. This very book
(40:46):
has gone through painstaking detail that Jews the nineteenth century
were a privileged group of people. They had rights, they
had privileges, they had incomes that that Russians did, ordinary
Ukrainian Orthodox people didn't. And for them to claim any
kind of oppression it's outrageous. And again they need that
(41:09):
because that's part of the myth, that's part of the
whole story as to why the Soviet Union exists. I mean,
you know, people like sports, you know, were so we're
so incredibly outrageous in their claims that there was an
(41:29):
unintended honesty to them. We knew how that it wasn't
just Schwartz. I mean, he spoke for a large number
of Jews. That's what the USSR was to them. That's
why you can't bring this up in academy. It destroys
the entire history of the twentieth century. Everything would have
to be rewritten if it came to be understood that
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that's not what the Soviet Union really was. It privileged
a certain group of people, that that privileged group changed
over the years, especially you know when the Jews find
only disengaged from the us SR in the late sixties,
when Israel started to you know, defeat the Arabs supported
(42:11):
by the Soviets, supported by Moscow, by the way, which
would put the party in a very weird position. And
when Jews now were being sponsored by the West. That's
the one, one and only time that they were any
sanctions were put in the Soviet Union was well, Jimmy
Carter did a little bit after the Afghanistan invasion, but
it was because they wouldn't let Jews go to Israel.
(42:36):
So I think I misread something up here about the
factory workers going to school. I think I misread that.
I think he meant that the Jews were bypassing the
factory workers because the factory workers had no you know,
talk about being lost. You know, this was this was
a massive shift. The factory factory workers were imported, were
(43:02):
kept under watch. But you know, uh, and and I'll
say it again, and I guess we'll get to this
at some point. But Henry Ford building the largest truck
pennant plant in the world in the midst of the
depression in Soviet Ukraine, you know, profit seems to come.
You know, there's a reason Henry Ford was so wealthy
that he was willing to throw all his views towards
(43:23):
Jews to the wind for a massive profit which he received.
There was no native auto industry. There would have been
if there was no you know, if there's Zarus. For us,
it was continued to developed. It was industrializing rapidly, and
it wasn't industrialized state by the start of the war. Uh.
(43:45):
It was overwhelmingly rural, But so was Germany, you know,
and so so is Britain, and so so as the
US still overwhelmingly rural. The fact that you had a
few big cities where the factories were that is the
same everywhere. People think that Britain was just one huge factory. No,
it was. It was still a rural society, just like
the US was, just like Prussia was. So yeah, I
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think I think I misread that, But that's that's what's
happening here, and I can't I don't know how you
know Jews. Jews can deal with cognitive dissonance because it
serves their interest. I don't think normal people can deal
with cognitive dissonance. And so somehow, you know, lashing out
at anti Semites or kind of makes up for this.
(44:31):
And and so they'll write books on the USSR and
never mentioned the Jews or or talk about them only
as you know, victims. And unfortunately, how ridiculous it ends
up sounding, just given what we've seen so far, leaving
the Jews out of developing US Sarists, it's it's like
leaving the Jews out of the development of Israel. It
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doesn't make any sense. Or leaving talking about Tibet and
never mentioning Buddhism. You end up sounding absurd. And that's
exactly what modern history writing in the West sounds like today.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Well, it's good to have you back, and I'm glad
you're uh you're healing up. Yeah, there's a good part
and a Ramone's shirts of boot like really uh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I've been a fan of there since I was well
since nineteen eighty three whence ubtrainean Jungle came out. It's
rare for me because I don't I don't like bands
that don't have a standout musician. Ramon's never had a
stand particularly standout musician, but they're still one of my
favorite bands anyway. There's one of the few exceptions in
that in that realm there has to be one musician
(45:39):
that stands out. But the Ramones is always an exception
in that regard.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
It's the songs that's it. It's the vibe. They have
a vibe.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Well, keep keep in mind too that Ramond's very anti communist.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, Johnny too. Johnny was very sorry.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I meant, I didn't mean Marky Mark maybe, but Johnny especially.
They're at the Berlin Wall, you know, and everything.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Joey was a lefty. Johnny used to wear a shirt
kill a comedy for Mommy.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they had they had to make the
comedy of songs over the years. Yeah, but I think
I don't have the feeling Havana fair.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great song.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I think the deck Kennedy's had holiday holiday and Cambodia
and it's a it's making fun of these Collins leftists
by saying, oh, I have an idea, why don't we
take you over to Cambody and we'll see how how
free they are? And uh and that's I love that song.
And it's the most punk thing you can do to
make fun of the laft as they make fun of
(46:45):
the right and like kill the Poor and songs like that.
So that was in a band and everything I played
tvgb's in nineteen eighty eight or eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
So yeah, I need to talk about that affair.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yes, yes, maybe not today, but definitely. Yeah. I've lived
an interesting life, all right.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Everyone go over to the show notes and go over
to go over to the description of the videos, and
please donate to doctor JOHNSONID. I'm sure he's also dealing
with with some medical bills too. Yeah, throw him some
shekels and keep him flush.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I really appreciate that. I know you say it every time,
and it's a big.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Deal, no problem at all. We'll pick it up and
we'll get back into the swing of things. It looks
like we're back in the swing of things today. You were,
yeah you were four five.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Minutes, yeah you were.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
You were on fire today. But give it another couple
of days, you get back to one hundred percent and
we're going to fire through this nineteen twenties because this
is uh, this was hell on earth for a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
This is what I listener has been waiting for. I
think this is when things, all the other crap we've
been dealing with it finds it's height, its zenith. Now
all the social you know, the Jewish power has now exploded.
Been festering for a long time. Now it exploded, and
this is now. We live in a society where Jews
(48:14):
had untrammeled power and no one to tell them otherwise.
And that's where we're that's where we're reading about.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yes, sir, all right, see you in a couple of days.
Thank you very much, my friend.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
By bye
Speaker 1 (48:27):
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Doctor Johnson, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well? Did you tell everyone while while we were we
were not doing this for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I didn't want to do you know, I didn't. I
didn't want to say anything without your permission. So goy.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I was in the hospital for four and a half
days with all kinds of things that I've been putting
off for years, and I finally just you know, everything
gave in at once, and I'm back. I'm like seventy
five eighty percent. You know, I normally don't get sick,
so I let everything go, although in this case, you know,
for a decade. So I'm I'm better off. I'm ready
(02:37):
to get back to work, and that that's the reason
for my absence. But I have to tell you something,
and I don't know how many listeners understand this. I
think that I had a glimpse into hell, and there
was a specific reason I was very briefly put on
(02:58):
beta blockers. I don't know, a huge It's not really
a hard thing necessarily, but and I wouldn't call these nightmares.
These were metaphysical. These were These were total dissolution. These
were so frightening that despite my extraordinary capacity to describe things,
I can't describe them to you. These were the nightmares.
(03:21):
I don't even their nightmares is a very weak term
for them. Beta blockers are known for that, but maybe
not that severe. So I said, it's a toss up.
If I was gonna die, maybe it would be a
I'd have to think about it. But it was a horrible,
horrible chemical that they gave me. Now I'm on something else.
But but beta blockers are straight from hell. For what
(03:45):
the the you know, I hated to go and to
sleep and everything it was. I'm convinced that I saw something.
I wasn't near dead. None of this was his life
threatening or anything. But beta blockers, the nightmares were beyond extraordinary.
Let me put it that way. I can only imagine
(04:06):
speaking of hell. Speaking of Hell, we're at the worst
part of this book. Soviet Union in the nineteen twenties
is close as a normal person is going to get.
This was a depressing, demented decade. Unti Lendon's death in
twenty five or so, and well, this was a period
(04:28):
of all these social experimentation. The Jews had total free reign.
It was a it was a horrible error. So and
that's where we pick up. I guess.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
All right, here we go back at it Chapter eighteen.
In the nineteen twenties. The twenties in the Soviet Union
was an epoch with a unique atmosphere, a grand social
experiment which intoxicated world liberal opinion for decades, and in
some places it's intoxic cations still persists. However, almost no
(05:02):
one remains of those who drank deeply of its poisonous spirit.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
The Western press was making up all kinds of crap.
Alexandra Colinti was introducing the first sexual revolution at least,
you know, the Christian era, and just you know, easy divorce,
easy abortion. The society fell apart to such an extent
that they had to stop all that and social experiment
(05:30):
table they're experimenting on people. But the Western press was
saying this was a way for the future, and you
had you know, to this day, yeah, of course it's
still persist. It persist in the universities everywhere else. This
was an error of liberation. And even when all the
evidence came out that it was exactly the opposite of that.
It doesn't affect anybody. Truth doesn't matter here, it's the
(05:51):
support of Jewish power. And this was complete Jewish power,
and anytime they're going to take over completely, this is
what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
The uniqueness of that spirit was manifested in the ferocity
of class antagonism, in the promise of a never before
seen new society, in the novelty of new forms of
human relationships, in the breakdown of the nation's economy, daily life,
and family structure. The social and demographic changes were in
fact colossal. The great exodus of the Jewish populations that
(06:26):
the capitals began for many reasons during the first years
of communist power. Some Jewish writers are categorical in their description.
Thousands of Jews left their settlements in a handful of
southern towns from Moscow, Leningrad and Kiev to find real life.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I wonder what that means. These were staffing all of
the new political positions, all the new offices. Of course,
you know, the state was already ten times bigger than
ever was in Tazar's era. It's tough to build a
totalitarians society in right. In Raunchiah, it was large, but
(07:03):
but new technologies were emerging. Of course, the West was
giving it all away, or at least selling it to
a discount to the Soviets. There was no threat to
any capitalist interests. They were trading as brisk as you
could possibly imagine. With these people. Banks were were set
up shop. Class antagonism was more of an excuse than
anything else. I mean, Soviet Union was it was an oligarchy,
(07:27):
so both party and ethnic class antagonism, But that was
just rhetorical more than anything else. But real life was
to get, you know, to take part in this, and
and if you're a Jew at the time, unless you
just were disgusted by this. And there were a bunch
that that that were overwhelmingly this was as close as
(07:47):
Jewish paradise as they can get. And they were rushing
in to take these new jobs and and people people
started to notice this, that people are going away to
prison and disappearing, and all these names don't sound like
Russian names who were involved in shipping these people away.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Beginning in nineteen seventeen, Jews flooded into Leningrad in Moscow.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, hundreds of thousands of Jews
moved to Moscow, Leningrad in other major centers. In nineteen
twenty twenty eight thousand Jews lived in Moscow. By nineteen
twenty three, about eighty six thousand, according to nineteen twenty
six USSR census one hundred and thirty one thousand, and
(08:31):
in nineteen thirty three two hundred and twenty six thousand,
five hundred. Moscow became fashionable. They used to say half
seriously in Odessa.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Well, it didn't become you know, I don't like it
when they use the passive voice. It didn't become fashionable.
They made it fashionable.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Lurie Larin, a fanatical and zealous Bolshevik leader during war Communism,
rites that in the first year is not less than
a million Jews left their settlements. In nineteen twenty three,
about half of Ukraine's Jews lived in large cities, pouring
as well into parts of Russia formerly off limits to
Jews so called prohibited provinces from Ukraine and by Russia
(09:12):
by Laurissia into trans Caucasia and Central Asia. The magnitude
of this flow was half a million, and four fifths
of them settled in r s F s R one
in five of the Jewish migrants went to Moscow.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, so it's a Russian Soviet republic. Yeah, this, you know,
and we talked about this already, be so colled forbidden provinces.
Now they went, they went wherever they wanted. It was
no way to keep craying of them. And this is
prior to the rebel I'm talking about you know, the
e even the early White era. But you know that
(09:50):
was that was hypothetical more than anything else. But that
that's this is what's what's behind all of this, is
that they're seeing opportunity here. The only can they come
in and take over and take over the wealth of
other kick people out of home that then move right in.
You know, these are these are sociopathic peoples. They had
no difficulty with the idea that you know, the old nobility,
(10:12):
despite so many of them supported them initially and they
all get kicked out of their houses. They don't It
wasn't an official nobility in Russia for the most part.
But you know, these either people were killed or set
in exile or set into the camps, which did exists
at the time. Uh, And they move right into their
houses no problem, and not to mention political power, not
(10:34):
to mention totally new economic connections, especially with the West.
Western capital was flooding into the the country. And it
makes such a mockery of Marxism, because Marxism would say
that such a society would be a threat to capitalism.
Not quite the contrary. Capitalists saw opportunities and capital came
(10:58):
pouring in, even right up until and with afterward the
Great Depression Mma.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Girski considers Laren's numbers to be substantially undercounted and points
out that the demographic change affected interest importance to the
Russian population During war Communism, with its ban on private
trade and limitations on craftsmen and those of certain social origins,
there arose a new social category, the deprived, deprived of
(11:26):
civil rights. Many quoting many Jews were deprived of civil
rights and numbered among the deprived. Still, the quote migration
of the Jewish population from by Larosia into the interior
of the USSR, mainly to Moscow and Leningrad did not slow.
The new arrivals joined relatives or co ethnics who offered
(11:47):
communal support.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's a flight of hand referring to civil rights. There
were no civil rights in Marxism as a metaphysical concept.
I've been reading Karl Marx since I was eighteen. He
completely rejects these metaphysical ideas. There's no such things as
civil rights. That was absolutely a nonsense phrase to any
(12:12):
Marxist at any level, at any point in its history.
So I don't know who these Jews are. I love
how you know this, this guy writes in the abstract,
making it seem like this wasn't a Jewish movement, but
saying that they were deprived of civil rights. You see
the fraud here. There were no civil rights to begin with.
Marxism had no room for that, there was no conception
(12:33):
of it. It was a materialist system. Civil rights don't
make any sense in a materialist system. You know, a society,
an ideology based entirely on you know, Adams and void
and nothing else. There's no soul, there's no essences, there's
no humanity, there's no only Darwin and so so it's funny.
(12:55):
I don't know the original that this was written in
Russian or Yads or what, but the phrase civil rights
made me smile, because there is no such thing in Marxism.
So he could say something like that and everyone will gasp,
oh my god, poor Jews. But the concept was totally
foreign to Marxism at any kind, on any level, at
any point in its history. From Kora Marx today.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
According to the nineteen twenty six USSR USSR census, two million,
two hundred and eleven thousand, or eighty three percent of
the Jewish population lived in cities and towns, four hundred
and sixty seven thousand lived in rural districts. Another three
hundred thousand did not identify themselves as Jews, and these
were practically all city dwellers. About five out of six
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Jews in the USSR were urban dwellers, constituting up to
twenty three to forty percent of the urban population in
Ukraine and by Larusia, respectively.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
What does that mean? Another three hundred thousand did not
identify themselves as Jews. Either they didn't identify at literally
or didn't write it down and the census. But if
that's the latter is the case, then it was a
lot more than three hundred thousand. We spent months talking
about how they evaded census counts and everything else. I
don't know if they mean literally like writing it down,
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were Jews? I don't know why they wouldn't, but or
that they actually said that we we just weren't and
we were countered in there. These numbers are estimates at
most Jewish cities and towns, that's not interesting. They're always
they're city dwellers. The only reason they ever live in
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rural districts is to take advantage of the peasantry and run,
whether it be brothels. You know, you can find them
in the bars and alcohol beyond the law. But the cities,
I mean, that's where the political power was going to be.
And they were always an urban people anyway. So the
eighty three percent, that sounded pretty much normal anytime in
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Russian or Soviet history.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Most striking the provincial capitals in major cities was the
flow of Jews into the apparatus of the social of
the Soviet Government or Shahnazidsky. In nineteen twenty seven, at
the fifteenth Communist Party Congress reported on the national makeup
of our Party. By his statistics, Jews constituted eleven point
eight percent of the Soviet government of Moscow, twenty two
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point six percent in Ukraine, thirty point three percent in Kharkoff,
the capital thirty point six percent and by Larussia thirty
eight point three percent in Minsk. If true, then the
percentage of Jews in urban areas about equal that of
Jews in the government.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
These numbers are false. I mean, they're told, and it's
a big deal for them to downplay the Jewish element
to it. Jews were a privileged cast here. Now, I
don't know the difference between being in a government meaning
happened an office, literally fat having an office, and simply
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having political power in the communist state. So there can
also be another sleight of hand makeup of our party. Well,
that's one thing, because the party in the state were
always two different things. Eleven point eight percent of the
Soviet government. Well, the eyewitnesses this day and went into
exile said there is this nonsense number. Of course, you know,
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the famous Georgian said, you know, he followed orders. Uh.
The overall percentage of Jews in Rush of the time
was one and a half percent males anyway, So I'll
challenge these numbers. But even as a stand, Jews have
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a lot to answer for. But I think they're much higher,
and I don't know, it's hard to tell whether he
means just the party or the party in the state.
How he's defining political power or whatever. Now he's all
over it because he says a party. Then he says
Soviet government. Well, I'm not sure what twenty means, but
these numbers are much higher. But you know, the Soviets
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were always very image conscious and they they didn't like
this notion. You know. Stalin said the same thing to
the Hungarians. I said, my god, every name is Jewish.
You got to get creative presidency that has no power
and find some guy who's not a Jew ins stick
him there. And they took him a long time, and
they found one Sandos I think his name, and they
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stuck him there. He didn't do anything. But so they're
very concerned about this kind of thing, and they were
anti Jewish movements. Ald Opening the exile movement was very
anti Jujic and for very good reason. And I guarantee
you that they laughed at these numbers at the time.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Solomon Schwartz, using data from the work of Lev Singer,
maintained that the percentage of Jews in the Soviet government
was about the same as their percentage of the urban population,
and it was significantly lower in the Bolshevik Party itself.
Using or Shaina Nids or Shaanna ca Z's data, Jews,
at one point eight two percent of the population by
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nineteen twenty six were represented in the apparatus at about
six point five times their proportion in the population at large.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Solomon Schwartz, I've dealt with him myself. This is the
same guy who had to leave the Soviet Union because
he was afraid that they weren't killing enough non Jews,
enough anti semis He was one of the leaders of
the you know, creation of the anti Semitic laws and
everything else he was. He was, of course at the
time he was there. But I think he is absolutely
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full of it. He can't, you know, say that the
Soviet Union wasn't and you know, opposed to anti Semitism
enough and then turn around and say, oh, yeah, but
they totally dominated everything. He can't say that, So he's
absolutely going to He has every motive to downprep downplay
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these numbers. So six point five that maybe, but again
is much higher, much higher than that. And we know
some of this because when solomin purged this same generation,
the number of Jews are so overwhelming, these numbers can't
be literally true. Not to mention the fact that we've
talked about again, how the Jews have been able to
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hide their identities. They change their names, they move from
place to place, They're moving all over the place. If
that's been the theme here, is that they're moving all
over the place. No one knows who's who yet. This
is still a very new society. So and they know
what they're doing in terms of acting. Is this this
mafia organization? They don't want their names known for cosmetic reasons,
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if for nothing else. Still being a Jew at this time,
this was this was a promised land.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's easy to underestimate the impact of the sudden freedom
from pre revolutionary limits on civil rights.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Earlier power was not accessible to Jews at all, and
now they had more access to power than anyone else Unquote.
According to I Bikerman, this sudden change provoked a varied
reaction in all strata of society. Schwartz writes, quote from
the mid twenties there arose a new wave of anti Semitism,
which was quote not related to the old antisemitism, nor
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a legacy of the past. I wonder why quote it
is an extreme exaggeration to explain it as originating with
backwards workers from rural areas, as anti Semitism generally was
not a fact of life in the Russian countryside. No,
it was a much more dangerous phenomenon. It arose in
the middle strata of urban society and reached the highest
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levels of the working class, which before the revolution had
remained practically untouched by the phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
It reached students and members of the Communist Party and
the Komsomol and even earlier local government in smaller provincial
towns where an aggressive and acti active anti semitism took hold.
I can't why would that even happy.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I have no clue.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
There's gambling, I know.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah, but this is against Solomon Swarts and he's responding
to the official state explanation. And the official state explanation
was that you have backwards workers from the countryside because
Algie American Semis, you know, they're born that way. And
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when they came into the cities as the earlier you know,
the very beginnings of industrialization western investment took place, they
were kind of out of place. They were they were
totally lost, and somehow that means you're going to be
u the anti Semite. There was never any good reason
for it obviously, so you can prosecute it. But Solomon
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will say that, you know, and he's not entirely wrong,
because you know, you could see the tremendous power that
Jews had, how they use it without any responsibility whatsoever.
To this day they won't take responsibility for anything, and
wherever they went, especially in the punitive Organs, because they
were always being watched. Even at this early date, they
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were building a totalitarian system, at least in the major cities.
But Schwartz kind of became famous at the time of
rejecting the official explanation. But he stopped short because he
can't say he probably knows, but he can't say he
can go so far as to say, no, it's something different.
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It's all over the place, it's totally irrational, and then
that's it. It put a period there. Of course, we
know exactly why the persecutions of the church, mass killings.
The camps were developed and functioning is even as a
portion of the economy. Already they weren't quite called goolags yet,
but there was supposed to be re education camps. All
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this stuff is already done so, and the punitive Organs
were all heavily Jewish at the top, Sozanisan says this
of everyone's Russian liberals were saying this. Russian liberals say it,
and even now so. But he can't say that. This
guy can't say that they have to maintain the myth
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that anty Jewish feeling or thought or action is inherently irrational,
and it's because we're superior to them, and they hate it,
and so they're gonna irrationally like it like a cornered animal.
They're gonna, they're gonna lash out. So, you know, Biekerman,
we already we dealt with him before. He was one
of these guys who says, you know, it kind of
our fault, but sorts not in a million years. And
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I've read his stuff, you know, because he was there
at the time of courtly and I know he's full
of it and he does too, but he he can't,
you know, he can't. He has to maintain the myth.
And that's what he does in all of his writings.
And he was the guy he des fight all of
the attacks on anyone who said anything bad about the Jews.
It was never enough. He wanted something in the constitution
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that said, you know, not just in general, you know,
hatred of one group. No, that Jews rules society, that's
a good thing, and anyone who contradicts it or complains
about it goes to the camps. That's what he wanted,
and he says that openly, and then he leaves the
country at some point. Thing that, you know, anti Semitism
is everywhere, is even in the Jewish party apparatus. So
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I don't even know how he's defining that. And in
his books he gives these stupid examples. Everything's a pogram
to him. Yeah it's all the same, but they like
that today. But he talks about a factory a Jewish
called a name. Drew got slapped by somebody. I did
a whole extra on this not too long ago. I
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didn't want to deal with sorts. So he came up
all the time and that was all pograms to him,
and he would exaggerate it, and people want to jail
for it. And even though we're jew we even today
you can't say jew. If you say Jewish people or
Jewish man, a Jewish woman, you can't say jew. Didn't
say jud there or anything like that. So so that's
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what he's talking about. And he eventually left the country saying,
you know, it's it's gonna be a slaughter. Of course,
it never was. Everyone the slightest word against the Jews,
let the prison, especially this era. But he was just
he wanted, you know, he wanted he wanted this in
the constitution. Not that anyone gave a damn about a
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piece of paper then, but that was his whole thing
to him. The Soviet Union was a intiment of Jewish power,
and nothing more.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
The Jewish Encyclopedia writes that from the beginning of the
twentieth century quote through official Soviet propaganda. Writes that anti
Semitism in that later latter part of that's twenties was
a legacy of the past. The facts show that it
arose mainly as a result of colliding social forces in
large cities end quote. It was fanned by the quote
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widely held opinion that power in the country had been
seized by Jews, who formed the nucleus of the Bolsheviks
end quote. Biekerman wrote with evident concern in nineteen twenty
three that quote the Jew is in all corners and
on all levels of power end quote quote. The Russian
sees him as a ruler of Moscow, at the head
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of the capital of Neva, and at the head of
the Red Army, a perfected death machine. He sees as
Saint Vladimir Prospect has been renamed Nakimsen Prospect. The Russian
sees the Jew as judge and hangman. He sees Jews
at every turn, not only among the Communists, but among
people like himself everywhere doing the bidding of Soviet power.
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Not surprising, the Russian, comparing present with Passes, confirmed in
his idea that power is Jews, wish power, that it
exists for Jews and does the bidding of Jews.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I love how he throws in Bikerman. You know, he's
quoting the Jewish encyclopedia, and you can't expect anything else
from them. It's actually pretty reasonable as far as Jewish
encyclopedia goes. Then he throws in Bikerman. Obviously your Jewish name,
the Jewish in all corners, all levels of power. Lots
of people, you know, say that at the time. Jews
say that at the time. So but you know, it's
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almost like the encyclopedia is semi admitting these things, but
by putting in words like perception or conceived of. It's
kind of a barrier. You know, they're not coming out
and emitting it, but they're kind of emitting it. And
you know what the Jewish encyclopedia would have to explain then,
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is why Lenin over and over again said that the
reason that anti Semitism has to be destroyed. And again
I've said this before, but anti Semitism, they're not Semites,
they're Kazars, they're a mixed group of people. They have
no connection with Middle East. God knows the ill Testament.
So but we say that just because it's a common word,
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and but it irritates the hell out of me. But
they have to explain why. Lenin said anti Semitism is
criticism of the USSR. Criticism of the USSR is criticism
of Jews. He said that so many times it became
a bumblesticker at the time Stalin said that early in
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his reign. Two later on, it was a different story
when Zionism developed and the Soviet started supporting Syria. In
rock a little different then. But in this era, Lenin,
I've quoted Lenin and speeches that are based entirely on
that concept. If you were an anti Semite by definition, you
were anti Soviet. If you're anti Soviet, by definition, you're
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an anti Semite. And the Jews en cyclopedia has to
explain Lenin's statements in many different media to that effect.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
No less visible than Jewish participation in government was a
suddenly created new order in culture and education. The new
societal inequality was not so much along the lines of
nationality as it was a matter of town versus country.
The Russian reader needs no explanation of the advantages bestowed
by Soviet power from the twenties to the eighties on
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capital cities when compared to the rest of the country.
One of the main advantages was a level of education
and range of opportunities for higher learning. Those established during
the early years of Soviet power in capital cities assured
their children and grandchildren future decades of advantages visa those
in the country. The enhanced opportunities in post secondary education
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and graduate education meant increased access to the educated elite. Meanwhile,
from nineteen eighteen, the ethnic Russian intelligentsia was being pushed
to the margins.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
And that wasn't just a matter again. They was pushed,
you know, like this just to happen as it fell
from the sky. This was official policy. It came into
its own and under Stalin, and some idiots call him
a Russian nationalist. Nonsense like this, never heard of the
Leningrad Purges, which were violently anti Russian, not just pushed
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to the Margians, I mean almost literally, but it's a
metaphor saying that they're totally exploited. They're not allowed to
have power in their own country, which now didn't exist
since it was a sunk into the USSR. And the
one group of people that Lenin personally and then the
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Party more generally distrusted was Russian, the ethnic Russian, because
there were so many of them at the time and
they were considered untrustworthy. Again, did Jews have to explain
why if that, if it wasn't a Jewish society, why
would they worry about you know, even Russian members of
the Party were constantly being launched because you know, Russians
are born anti Semites. We have to watch them all
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the time. We can't really trust them. And so when
Stalin got rid of this generation because they were they
were professional revolutionaries, they really weren't, you know, they were
bureaucrats of a sort. We've talked about this before, and
he needed to replace them with professionals, not just you know,
revolutionaries and Jewish nationalists and all kinds of weirdos who
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sought an opportunity for power. He needed to actually run
an industrialized country despite the industry coming from the West.
And I had nothing to do with that. They were
Jewish or not, but that means the entire thing was Jewish.
We talked about why is Stalin being called an anti
Semite and what a scam it is because your typical
you know, academic today can say, yes, Salmon was an
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anti Semite because so many of the people who he
threw out of power were Jews. It's not a coincidence.
Well they could say that, or they could say that, well,
the party was Jewish, the state was Jewish. So when
you purse anybody, any faction, it's going to be massively Jewish.
So either you admit that or you say this Solem
was an antersement, So of course you're gonna go with
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the with the latter, and God knows you. Education education
was ideologically stilted. Just like American college educators today, you
are you're held to ideological standards. If you questioned anything
you were, you know, Darwinism or anything like that. You
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were thrown out god knows what else. It's like, you know,
they had this literacy campaign, well literacy to read what,
you know, their propaganda and Darwin and all this stuff.
And that's about it. So you know, literacy is just
an abstraction. It was high literacy in all the cities
and soars Russia. But the Soviets are given these accolades
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for that. But the point is to be able to
read what There's no such thing abstract literacy. So that's
what's that's what's happening here. So they're you know, be
careful when they use these friends. Post Secondary education, well
that that came. I don't care what fields you were in.
You had to toe the line. Uh, you weren't allowed
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to talk. And you say you went into literature or
something like that, you couldn't talk about those, guesski anymore.
There was a whole new slew of Soviet writers who
were financed by the state. And these are the new
people you were you were reading and studying. Socialist realism
took over within a few years. We'll get to that,
I guess at some point. And so you know, and
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again they call it culture. This is this is an
anti culture. It's like our postmodern anti culture. The culture.
You know, there was no such concept. It was simply
political power coming from a very arrogant Jewish rule in
a couple of cities, way out of proportion to their
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to their numbers, and the hatred so many of the exiles,
you know, one hundreds of thousand of exiles, also the
same thing that the hatred was palpable. And if it
wasn't for the existence of Christians or Russians, they just
kill each other. So they always needed this mythic enemy
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of the Russian or the Czarists or the Black hundred
clergy is Lenin called to maintain peace among themselves. But
this is how they maintained power. Again, in the twenties,
it still was unclear whether they were going to stay
in power. The peasantry wanted nothing to do with them,
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and well they grew the food. They were in constant rebellion,
So it wasn't obvious that which we're going to be maintained.
The only reason that they were was cash infusions and
capital and everything else from the Western powers.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
In the twenties, students already enrolled in institutions of higher
learning were expelled based on social or origin's policy. Children
of the nobility, the clergy, government, bureaucrats, military officers, merchants,
even children of petty shot keepers were expelled. Applicants from
these classes and children of the intelligencia were denied entry
to institutions of higher learning in the years that followed.
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As a nationality repressed by the Tsar's regime, Jews did
not receive this treatment. Despite bourgeois origin that Jewish youth
were freely accepted in institutions of higher learning. Jews were
forgiven for not being proletarian.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
No, they were called proletarians. The word had no meaning anymore.
We talked about this too now, mean Jacob Schiff was
called a proletarian. It was denuded of all meaning at
this point. The proletarian was not a worker. These guys
didn't know any workers. Proletarian was someone who backed the
regime in one form, in one way or another, whether
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it be abroad or in the uss R itself. Were
forgiven by whom. It's such a chilly statement now, they were,
you know, to the extent that they supported the party,
no matter what their origin was. They were considered proletarians.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia. With the absence of limitations
based upon nationality for entry to institutions of higher learning,
Jews came to make up fifteen point four percent of
all university students in the USSR, almost twice their proportion
of the urban population at large. Further, Jews, owing to
a high level of motivation, quickly bypassed the unprepared proletarian
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factory workers who had been pushed forward in the education system,
and proceeded unhindered into graduate school. In the twenties and
thirties and for a long time after, Jews were a
disproportionately large part of the intelligentsia.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, actual factory workers were not push forward. I mean,
every once in a while you would have a bright
kid or something. But you know, we're also talking about,
you know, the Jews simply took it over and you
don't need you know, fifteen percent, that's way more than
enough to take over a place and to threaten anyone
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who may not even talk about Judaism, but anyone who
may question the system, question Lenin's policies, questioned them, the
totalitarian rule of one party, stuff like that, that's enough, you know.
And they were well organized, they were armed, of course,
they did everything together. They weren't the didn't act as
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an individual by any means. So, you know, I said,
from the very beginning of my book on the USSR,
the last thing anyone gave a damn about was factory workers,
actual real proletarians and Marxism. They were exploited beyond belief,
right over through the entire existence of the no capitalist
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state exploited factory workers like the Soviet Union, and it
was perfectly consistent with the rule of the party. Which
is why just because they use these terms, uh, these naives,
you know, professors of history who just take them at
their word without any criticisms of why they're using these
words and what they really mean, not just in theory
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but in practice too, and how to you know, so
the theory kind of went by the wayside pretty quickly,
not that they ever believed in the first place, but
it was it was you know, in classical Marxism or
poletarian was someone who had nothing but their body to
trade for a small wage in the cities. That's that's
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what a poltarian was. Someone who owned nothing but his
own body. His own labor power. Now we went through
a great detail. Why that's you know, Marx may have
said that, but I don't think you even he fully
believed that they were just a very easy, easy target.
They did not function as juiced, They didn't operates as
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an organization. They operated as individuals totally lost in drowning
in an urban world that they had no understanding of.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
According to g Aronson, wide access to hire and specialized
education led to the formation of cadres of doctors, teachers,
and particularly engineers and technical workers among Jews, which naturally
led to university faculty posts in the expanding system of
higher education and in the widely proliferating research institutions. In
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the beginning of the nineteen twenties, the post of the
State Chair of Science was occupied not by a scientist
but a Bolshevik official, Mendelstam Lyodov.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Lyodov, Why don't we pause here, because now what's going
to happen from here on in is the economic stuff,
and we talk about people like Bukar and everything else.
This is a natural break. But again everything all of
these fields specialized education sort of, but it had to
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be based on ideology, whether you actually believed it, or
whether you sort of believed it or whether you were
totally fanatical. Marxism was a way to justify anti social behavior.
It still is because you could always justify it. You know,
it's really a Machabelian You could justify it. I serve
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the workers, and therefore I'm gonna rob a bank, I'm
gonna shoot a clergyman or something like that. It's just
anti social behavior. But now they can dress it up
in this in this ideology. And you know, we're going
to come across this claim that Jews were an oppressed
group of people, but we know better. This very book
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has gone through painstaking detail that Jews the nineteenth century
were a privileged group of people. They had rights, they
had privileges, they had incomes that that Russians did, ordinary
Ukrainian Orthodox people didn't. And for them to claim any
kind of oppression it's outrageous. And again they need that
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because that's part of the myth, that's part of the
whole story as to why the Soviet Union exists. I mean,
you know, people like sports, you know, were so we're
so incredibly outrageous in their claims that there was an
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unintended honesty to them. We knew how that it wasn't
just Schwartz. I mean, he spoke for a large number
of Jews. That's what the USSR was to them. That's
why you can't bring this up in academy. It destroys
the entire history of the twentieth century. Everything would have
to be rewritten if it came to be understood that
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that's not what the Soviet Union really was. It privileged
a certain group of people, that that privileged group changed
over the years, especially you know when the Jews find
only disengaged from the us SR in the late sixties,
when Israel started to you know, defeat the Arabs supported
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by the Soviets, supported by Moscow, by the way, which
would put the party in a very weird position. And
when Jews now were being sponsored by the West. That's
the one, one and only time that they were any
sanctions were put in the Soviet Union was well, Jimmy
Carter did a little bit after the Afghanistan invasion, but
it was because they wouldn't let Jews go to Israel.
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So I think I misread something up here about the
factory workers going to school. I think I misread that.
I think he meant that the Jews were bypassing the
factory workers because the factory workers had no you know,
talk about being lost. You know, this was this was
a massive shift. The factory factory workers were imported, were
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kept under watch. But you know, uh, and and I'll
say it again, and I guess we'll get to this
at some point. But Henry Ford building the largest truck
pennant plant in the world in the midst of the
depression in Soviet Ukraine, you know, profit seems to come.
You know, there's a reason Henry Ford was so wealthy
that he was willing to throw all his views towards
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Jews to the wind for a massive profit which he received.
There was no native auto industry. There would have been
if there was no you know, if there's Zarus. For us,
it was continued to developed. It was industrializing rapidly, and
it wasn't industrialized state by the start of the war. Uh.
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It was overwhelmingly rural, But so was Germany, you know,
and so so is Britain, and so so as the
US still overwhelmingly rural. The fact that you had a
few big cities where the factories were that is the
same everywhere. People think that Britain was just one huge factory. No,
it was. It was still a rural society, just like
the US was, just like Prussia was. So yeah, I
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think I think I misread that, But that's that's what's
happening here, and I can't I don't know how you
know Jews. Jews can deal with cognitive dissonance because it
serves their interest. I don't think normal people can deal
with cognitive dissonance. And so somehow, you know, lashing out
at anti Semites or kind of makes up for this.
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And and so they'll write books on the USSR and
never mentioned the Jews or or talk about them only
as you know, victims. And unfortunately, how ridiculous it ends
up sounding, just given what we've seen so far, leaving
the Jews out of developing US Sarists, it's it's like
leaving the Jews out of the development of Israel. It
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doesn't make any sense. Or leaving talking about Tibet and
never mentioning Buddhism. You end up sounding absurd. And that's
exactly what modern history writing in the West sounds like today.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Well, it's good to have you back, and I'm glad
you're uh you're healing up. Yeah, there's a good part
and a Ramone's shirts of boot like really uh yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
I've been a fan of there since I was well
since nineteen eighty three whence ubtrainean Jungle came out. It's
rare for me because I don't I don't like bands
that don't have a standout musician. Ramon's never had a
stand particularly standout musician, but they're still one of my
favorite bands anyway. There's one of the few exceptions in
that in that realm there has to be one musician
(45:39):
that stands out. But the Ramones is always an exception
in that regard.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
It's the songs that's it. It's the vibe. They have
a vibe.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Well, keep keep in mind too that Ramond's very anti communist.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah, Johnny too. Johnny was very sorry.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I meant, I didn't mean Marky Mark maybe, but Johnny especially.
They're at the Berlin Wall, you know, and everything.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Joey was a lefty. Johnny used to wear a shirt
kill a comedy for Mommy.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they had they had to make the
comedy of songs over the years. Yeah, but I think
I don't have the feeling Havana fair.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's a great song.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
I think the deck Kennedy's had holiday holiday and Cambodia
and it's a it's making fun of these Collins leftists
by saying, oh, I have an idea, why don't we
take you over to Cambody and we'll see how how
free they are? And uh and that's I love that song.
And it's the most punk thing you can do to
make fun of the laft as they make fun of
(46:45):
the right and like kill the Poor and songs like that.
So that was in a band and everything I played
tvgb's in nineteen eighty eight or eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
So yeah, I need to talk about that affair.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yes, yes, maybe not today, but definitely. Yeah. I've lived
an interesting life, all right.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Everyone go over to the show notes and go over
to go over to the description of the videos, and
please donate to doctor JOHNSONID. I'm sure he's also dealing
with with some medical bills too. Yeah, throw him some
shekels and keep him flush.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
I really appreciate that. I know you say it every time,
and it's a big.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Deal, no problem at all. We'll pick it up and
we'll get back into the swing of things. It looks
like we're back in the swing of things today. You were,
yeah you were four five.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Minutes, yeah you were.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
You were on fire today. But give it another couple
of days, you get back to one hundred percent and
we're going to fire through this nineteen twenties because this
is uh, this was hell on earth for a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
This is what I listener has been waiting for. I
think this is when things, all the other crap we've
been dealing with it finds it's height, its zenith. Now
all the social you know, the Jewish power has now exploded.
Been festering for a long time. Now it exploded, and
this is now. We live in a society where Jews
(48:14):
had untrammeled power and no one to tell them otherwise.
And that's where we're that's where we're reading about.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yes, sir, all right, see you in a couple of days.
Thank you very much, my friend.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
By bye
Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yah
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