**Throwback** Reading Samuel T. Francis' 'The Cult of Dr King' w/ Charlemagne - The Pete Quiñones Show

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Happy MLK Day everyone. Yay, amazing. Huh. How are you
celebrating the day, Charlie?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Uh? Sleeping. I never thought I'd be happy for it
to be MLK Day, but I'm off work and desperately
needed some sleep because that blizzard that came through the
whole country basically was pretty devastating and I basically got
no sleep the last two nights before last night. So
thank you Martin Luther King for letting me rest.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, it's it's of course being in Alabama, We're not
getting it here and everything, but it's going to drop
into the teens a couple of nights this week, and
I mean people are just going to lose their minds.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, it was freaking crazy. I mean, what was it
three nights ago? It was minus thirty five here, a
real wind chill. It was my nest fifty five, which
is insane. Whenever it gets that cold, I always think
of the Wehrmacht. I find it very educational, oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I mean it's like when you read when you read
Jigrel's the book I have back there on the on
the Russian campaign, it's just brutal. And I was reading
I read another book on the Blue Division, the Spanish Division.
You can imagine how those guys felt coming from the
climate they were in.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah. I started listening to the Degrell stream last night.
That's a large chunk of content there. It's like almost
three and a half hours long, so that should be interesting.
I've read a good number of memoirs at this point,
and even a fiction book, mostly also recommended by Thomas.
So yeah, the Last Citadel was the fiction novel I

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read that was quite good.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, let's let's start off with this. Let's get our
friend Devin Stack had tweet today and what did he say?
Black people that like MLK are like kids who think
Santa is real. White people that like LK are like
adults that think Santa the Tooth Fairy and Count Chocula

(02:16):
are real.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah. I think that's just a perfect summary of the
myth of MLK. It's when you really think about it.
I mean, what do most people know about MLK. They
know he said, like I have a dream, and it
was it was that people are judged by the content
of their character and not the color of their skin.
And that's literally the only thing they know about MLK,
and they have this entire mythology built up around him.

(02:41):
I mean, just ask ask any normy what they actually
know about MLK and see if they can cite literally
anything other than that one quote. When you think about it,
most people know absolutely nothing about this guy. They just
know that one line, and they have this whole concept
that's been propagandized since their brain about what he is,
what he represents.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, I put you know, the what is it like
the Rockwell paint singer? The guy standing up and everybody
always does different stuff. He's in a room people. And
I posted that on my shockingly still have a Facebook
account this morning, and I said happy MLK day on
on and it said I hate them for the content
of their character.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I saw that. That was a good meme.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
All right, so let's stop sharing this. Hey, I see
every let's see I may We got about one hundred
on YouTube twenty three on on Odyssey waiting for rumble.
As the as the question goes Prager, somebody just says

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justin and ate line there, justin LEAs said Prager. Ju
has been ratioed today pretty hard.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh I didn't see them. We have them blocked, so.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, you get real quick. Yeah I can't. I can't
deal with that. No, all right, so entropies going and yeah,
let's uh, let's share this and get the started because
this is a it's not the longest article we've ever read,
but it's definitely lengthy. So this was written in nineteen
eighty eight by Samuel Francis says Good, twelve years before

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he got canceled. And for I think it was for
chronicle print version of Chronicles magazine at the time.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Most likely, I mean nineteen eighty eight. I doubt it
was a digital publication.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
No, it wasn't digital at all. And they reput they
redid it here. And this is three years after Ronald Reagan,
the hero the Right, made mlk's birthday a holiday. So
let me start reading here, because this is if no

(05:01):
one's ever read this, they'll they're in for something here.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Before you do. Can can week of that illustration real quick?
I think it's just a great illustration. It reminds me
of those demonology books from the Catholic Church showing, you know,
the various demons from Hell and false idols and that
sort of thing. I really like. I wonder who made that.
Actually it's got initials on it, but it's a it's
a great illustration to show the sort of idolatrous position

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MLK occupies in America.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So many, so many people occupied too, all right, but
not all of them get a day, so all right.
The third annual observance of the birthday of Martin Luther
King Junior passed happily enough in the nation's capital, with
the local merchants uploading their assorted junk into the hands
of an eager public. It is hardly surprising that King Day,

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observed as a federal legal public holiday since nineteen eighty six,
has already been come part of the cycle of mass
indulgence through which the national economy annually revolves. Excuse me,
Christmas itself, commemorating an event almost as important as the
nativity of Doctor King, has long been notorious for its
materialism and appetitive excesses, and a visit to any shopping

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mall will alert the consumer of the next festal occasion
on the public calendar and instruct him in what ways
and to what extent he is expected to turn out
his pockets in its celebration. I think it's appetitive, but
you know, I'm just streaking. Let me alone. Since Doctor King,

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wherever he is now has been promoted to full fellowship
in the national Pantheon. It is to be expected that
he too must perform his office and keeping the wheels
of American commerce well greased.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I like the line wherever he is now at the moment.
That's a sly thing I missed the first time I
read this.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yes, a Stone Choir did it did an episode on
Michael King in which they showed that he was he
in no way held to the tenants of Christianity.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, and what he says about the commodification here, I
suppose it's dwarfed now by what they've done to Christmas.
But it's been interesting over my life to observe the
commodification of Christmas to where it's it's so far removed
from any sort of religious celebration at this point. You know,
we I remember when this idea of Black Friday got
really big, and now the entirety of Thanksgiving is like

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the Black month, which is interesting to use that particular
color in relation to Christmas, but you know, it's like
two months of just engorge yourself on consuming product and
quote unquote deals on crap from China. Yeah, and yeah,
MLK Day, same thing. I mean you know, does anyone
celebrate the day?

Speaker 1 (07:58):
No? No, not really, Well, considering how many merchants were
around him, it's not you would expect that his holiday
would be commoditized in some way. What is remarkable about
the King Holiday, however, is that, alone among the ten
national holidays created by Act of Congress, it is celebrated

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in other ways that are pretty much in keeping with
its original purpose, while the other nine festivities are merely
excuses for protracted buying and selling, three day weekends with
an attractive campadre or orgies of eat and swill punctuated
by football games. Only the third Monday in January is
the regular subject of solemn x pat x expatiations by

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the Brahmins of the Republic as to what it really means.
Newspaper columnists, television commentators, and public school teachers, the nearest
things we have to a priesthood, devote at least a
week to discussing doctor King's life and achievements and their
play in our national consciousness. Certainly, they do not explore
the lives of Jesus, Christ, George Washington, or Christopher Columbus

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with such piety, nor do they usually dedicate much time
to reflecting on the less anthropomorphized occasions that celebrate national independence.
Public Thanksgiving are remembrance of American fallen in war for
the fatherland. Only Doctor King seems to elicit the effusions
from the guardians of the public tongue and as in

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the rituals of the heathen gods of old, loads of
the blasphemer who fails to bend the knee. I think
that's supposed to be gods of old, but it could
be gods of old.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I mean, this is the one. He makes a
good point there. You wouldn't see on Christmas Day or
Christopher Columbus Day, you know, I guess now we would
say tweets for the most part about you know, the
how the importance of these men are, the great things
they've done. But you know, on MLK Day you see
literally everybody, you know, including so called right wingers, you know,

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sort of praising MLK. Is this idol of the true
spirit of America. We're all brought together, you know. Under
those lines I quoted from his I have a dream
speech earlier, it's it is the one time where like
everyone comes together and puts their differences aside and celebrates
I mean, really, it's mostly just like white people doing

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this on Twitter and for these magazines. In fact, I
have no idea what black people do on MLK Day.
I probably, as he said, just you know, engage in
the sort of orgy of engorgement and consumerism.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, I think they just take the day off,
just like pretty much everybody else does, and since most
businesses are still open, they go ahead and get erin's done. Yeah,
that's pretty much what I think everyone's doing. The fate
of Jimmy the Greek Snyder is a case in point,

(10:55):
though not unique approach that I I'm so old I
remember this such At a table at Duke Zeibert's restaurant
in Washington on the Friday before the official ceremonies, mister Snyder,
a sports commentator, created, created and employed by CBS, was
asked by a local reporter for his views on the
progress of blacks and professional athletics. Mister Snyder perhaps is

(11:17):
dying too well, and he was foolish enough to say
what he really thought in response to the uninvited question. Yeah,
he had been drinking just a bit. He praised the
accomplishments and hard work of black athletes made some insulting
remarks about the laziness of white athletes, and suggested that
the athletic prowess of blacks was due in part to
their having been bred for size and strength in andtebellum days,

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specifically for their big thighs, and that they can jump
higher and run faster because of their big thighs. It
is not known if the Greek, a professional gambler, gave
odds on how long he would keep his seven hundred
and fifty thousand dollars a year job after uttering his inanities,
but there was little time to place any bets, and
probably few would have taken them. Within twenty four hours,

(12:03):
mister Snyder was in the ranks of the unemployed.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, that's pretty interesting to read for me since this
was written before I was born, and this easily could
have just been written yesterday and you just, you know,
replace Snyder with some other canceled white person. I guess
it really highlights how, you know, we have this stupid
concept called the woke. I really hate this term. It's
mostly used by center right people to obfuscate the true issues.

(12:31):
But this this kind of brought to mind to me
the sort of myth of the nineties. And I'm probably
getting slightly ahead of myself here, but people talk about,
you know, returned to the nineties, this time when the
nineties was like this time of unity and everything was
like pretty good and people are will well off and
you didn't see the crazy racial tension of the day.
But that's all just a lie. I think a lot

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of this myth comes from millennials like myself. All they
are a member of the nineties is you know, Nintendo, Sega, Genesis,
die Hard, fun movies. But really, really, if you if
you think the nineties existed as I've described, you've actually
just been duped by Hollywood, because the the idea of
the nineties is as this sort of island of stability,

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like you know, in nuclear physics, you have this idea
of islands of stability for for like highly unstable elements.
That's not and it's not actually real. That never happened.
It was never like that so called cancel culture always existed,
and there was never this sort of great time period.

(13:35):
Uh you know, right at the end of the Cold
War where America was this this unified, like post racial state.
It just didn't happen. And if you believe any of that.
You've literally just been duped by the movies. You know,
That's what I was asking. I was, uh, you know,
asking someone the other day, like what do you actually
know about World War two? For example, that isn't from

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the movies? Like, do you know anything about World War
two that isn't from the movies? Same thing as I
brought up earlier with MLK, what do you actually know
about him other than that one quote that you memorized
from your from your school days. So yeah, I think
this article is really punctuates this point that everything we
think is new right now isn't new at all. It's

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just really coming for everyone at this point, and that
you know, there was never a time when this stuff
wasn't there, and we should have you know, stomped out
a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Anyway, Yes, when you really look at this, like when
you look at the movement of King, So when does
the real civil rights move When does it really start
to pop off? When do you really start to see organization?
It's after Brown be Board, before Brown Brown versus Ward

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of Education. Sure there was some you know act, but
you didn't have this militancy until Brown versus Board of Education.
You know, and if from my reading of Race War
in High School, the whole book by Harold Saltzman, it
really just goes to show that you have you went

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from okay, you have you, we're going to force you
to desegregate the schools to teachers being let on fire
fifteen years later.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah. MLK the whole reason we're taught about him and
that one particular quote and how he was quote unquote
nine violent, which is a lie. It's all just this
thing so that you can trick white people into accepting
the entire civil rights movement, which is you know, ninety
eight percent violent, like you know Malcolm X for example,

(15:42):
Weather Underground, take your pick. And it's just a trick,
you know, a very simple trick played on white people
to make them think that this, this civil rights movement
is just totally benign and all about fairness. And you
know the minority case is when you know, it actually
becomes violent. But that's that's all just a lie.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Our buddy Prude here says, I don't know if you've
read it, but you should give what went wrong, what
went wrong with the creation and collapse of the Black
Jewish Alliance. I'm just sharing that so that I can
have it and have it on the screen and so
I can come back to it later. By the way,
anyone who wants to super chat, I'll read your comment.

(16:23):
I mean, I don't really care what the comment is.
If it's insane, I may censor it a little bit,
but comment A wait, please. Mister Snyder was not the
first victim of the New deity, and the practice of
ruining a white person once a year in honor of
Doctor King is becoming a national tradition. Last year, the

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victim was another sports figure, Los Angeles Dodgers official Al Campanis,
who was asked on ABCTV's Nightline about black athletic performance
and wound up discoursing on the comparative buoyancy of the races.
Wheniversed in water got his clock cleaned by his employers.
And though the incident did not occur in connection with

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doctor King's birthday, it did happen to fall during the
week of the nineteenth anniversary of the civil rights leader
assassination in April of nineteen sixty eight.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah something, Yeah, I just find this interesting because it's
like it's not enough to just you know, praise black people.
If you do it in like an out of date
fashion that more or less shows you're not. It's sort
of like a shit test for whether or not you're
really one of them. Like now we have the term
people of color or whatever, and you can only you
can only keep up with the latest terminology if you're

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sort of a true believer. So it's not even enough
for you to like, you know, praise them and say
anti white statements like you have to do it in
this very specific, updated, a ritualized way or else they
sort of they detect that you're, you know, not from
the same ant colony and just destroy you instantly. Urban Nonswimmer,

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that's funny.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Thank you to the sal Lavanka. All right onward, miss okay.
In nineteen eighty six, when King Day was first celebrated
after its enactment by Congress in nineteen eighty three, the
victim got off easy. In Montgomery County, Maryland, missus Karen Collins,
a part time music teacher in a Silver Spring elementary school,
made the mistake of giving her private opinion to a

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colleague that the country was making too much of doctor
King and that she had heard that he had been
a Communist supporter and had Communist friends. True, her remark
was overheard by some students who ran home to tell
their parents, who alerted the local NAACP to the presence
of un American activities. Even before the NAACP invited itself

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to settle the matter, however, Missus Collins had received a
reprimand from her principal, had been placed on an administrative leave,
transferred to another school, and required to enroll in a
human relations course where she could learn something about the
American in way.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, this is fascinating because it's an example of how
the ADL tends to function as well, where you know,
they don't even do the hard work in any of this.
It's it's really the people who you'd expect to be
on your side like that. Who knows what that principle's
political beliefs were, but he was probably just acting out,
you know, the Nuremberg moral paradigm here and just did

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all the work for them.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
That's exactly what I was thinking Nuremberg. Yeah. Yeah. Cato
Man fifty five over on Entropy super Chat says throughout
the twentieth century, there was a concentrated effort by Jewish
activists like Frank Boaz Ashley Montague Stephen J. Gould to
distort scientific scientific truth to benefit their own ethnic group.

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Montague explicitly stated reducing antisemitism was his goal of his
promotion of biological equality. All right, let us move on.
Thank you for that. The NAACP was not at all
satisfied and demanded her dismissal. Quote. Any person who says

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doctor King was a Communist is either maliciously racist or uninformed,
says said Roscoe Nick's president of the local chapter. I
wonder where he learned that. Where he learned that from where?
You know anybody who says a is b Actually, well,

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I mean, if you know who actually started the NAACP
and it wasn't black people, you might have an idea. Actually,
it was never certain exactly what missus Collins had said.
She denied saying the King was a Communist, and after
her disciplining, school superintendent Wilmer s Cody acknowledged that quote,
although her exact words are still in dispute. She did

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express some satisfaction about the school system special program concerning
Martin Luther King's birthday. Missus Collins appears to have kept
to have kept her job, but the god whom she
blasphemed had tasted blood.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
This reminds you of that popular video I published cold
a No exit. It's not enough. You can't just opt
out of their system, you know. If you don't, especially
if you're in one of these, you know, priesthood positions
like an educator. If you don't, you know, zealously bow
down to their idols and zealously enforce their moral paradigm,

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they're going to come after you. There's really no way,
there's no way you can sort of be the the
House Conservatives successfully that always backfires are on you in
the end, and it's it's actually worse to be that
than to be one of them, because then you're just
a trader to your own people.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Good point. Ao asked the question super Chat over an entropy.
Do you think the MLK idolatry will begin to crack
when the FBI files are declassified? Nah? Yeah, I said, no, Yeah, nothing.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
The release that's like winning with facts and logic like that.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, they really. And we're not laughing at you, Ao,
You know, I'm not laughing at you because I know
you and I respect you. We're laughing because it's just
I'm laughing because nothing ever changes with the release of information,
nothing gets better. I mean even the snowed in leaks
and even the Wikipedia. I mean, what does it change.

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Things just get shittier and shittier.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, because it you know, that's sort of the irony
of the Internet is the access to all information was
supposed to fix these problems, but you still just have
controlled sources like Wikipedia. So it doesn't really matter how
much information is out there. What matters is you know
what's on the controlled platforms that are you know, taken
to be canonical.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, all right, moving on. If the reader thinks I
exaggerate the metaphor of King as God considered the demand
of nineteen seventy nine and since to add doctor King's
letter from birming the Birmingham Jail to the Bible. At
the third Annual Conference of the Black Theology Project in
nineteen seventy nine, a proposal to add the letter as

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an epistle and the New Testament was approved by the
convention of about forty Black ministers, theologians, and lay people,
and the Reverend Mohammed Kenyata, instructor in sociology at Haverford College,
held that we believe God worked through doctor King in
that jail in Birmingham in nineteen sixty three to reveal

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his holy word end quote. The pious sociologists also noted
that quote people generally do not realize that the process
of deciding what is in what is or is not
holy Scripture has been an ongoing one end quote.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, this is a big problem with Americans. If there's
there's one major thing you could criticize about Americans. And
I found this tendency too in this book I read
by Thomas Fleming, Disease in the Public Mind. Yeah, also
recommended by Thomas. If you look at my blog, it's
basically just book reviews of books recommended by Thomas, but

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it's it basically. Abolitionism was this exact thing as well,
where people Americans just get obsessed with these like preacher
characters who sort of speak in a certain religious way
and they sort of project one of them that they're
put there by God. And it's it's a big problem
in revolutionary American politics that we've had from the beginning.

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And this is a sort of part of our character.
It's probably intrinsic to our character. So I don't think
we can get rid of it, but we need to
understand how to sort of control this negative tendency in
the American spirit to just become obsessed with the and idolize,
you know, in a heretical way. Frankly, these these preacher
characters that we just sort of declare like prophets from God.

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You know if you speak in that. I have a
dream that every man and woman, regardless of color and
creed is it deserves a five piece chicken tendage from Popeyes.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It's like like people just fall for this, and like
you got they have to stop that.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, Super Chadow over on Odyssey from Potato Mutt says. Supposedly,
Malcolmax talked about the tribe a lot in his autobiography,
but his co author Alex Haley, who later went on
to write Roots, removed most of it. Haley also interviewed
George Lincoln Rockwall for Playboy in the nineteen sixties. The
interview may worth may be worth looking into. And I

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will say, and this is basically no one's reporting on this,
but it is everybody pretty much believes it in academia. Now.
Haley's book Roots, that was turned into a mini series
that was meant to guilt every white person in the
country for slavery in the early eighties. Completely made up,

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just completely made up. So yeah, there you go. A
whole bunch of including including myself, watching this going why
are they whipping that man? Why are they whipping that man?
It's like, yeah, it'd be like me. It'd be like
me taking a for the entire iron to my computer
equipment here. Why would I want to Why would I
want to hurt something it destroys something that makes me money.

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It's ridiculous. Anyway, moving on, If the thirst of the
New God were slaked only by the ritual slaughter of
school teachers and sports commentators, Doctor If the thirst of
the New God was slaked only by the slaughter by
the ritual slaughter of teachers and sports commentators, Doctor King's

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apotheosis might actually represent a step forward for the country,
But evidence mounts that more is being demanded. King Day is,
in fact King Day in fact, represents a revolution in
our national mythology, a transformation that seeks to delegitimize the
symbols of American history and national identity, and to redefine
the meaning of the American Republic, perhaps even the meaning

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of the Christian faith. This at least is the explicit
understanding of the holiday that the dominant molders of public
opinion articulate every year in their ceremonial ruminations. Writing in
The New York Times on January eighteenth of this year,
Vinton Harding, professor of religion and social transformation at the
ill of School of Technology in Denver, rejected the notion

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that King Holiday, that the King Holiday commemorates merely a kind,
gentle and easily managed religious leader of a friendly crusade
for racial integration. Such an understanding, he writes, would quote
demean and trivialized Doctor King's meaning, and the higher truth
of King Day is made of sterner stuff that Martin
Luther King of nineteen sixty eight, writes. Mister Harding quote

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was calling for and leading civil disobedience campaigns against the
unjust war in Vietnam, courageously describing our nation as quote
the greater purveyor of violence in the world today. He
was arguing us away from a dependence on military solutions.
He was encouraging young men to re used to serve
in the military, challenging them to not to support America's

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anti communist crusades, which we're really destroying the hopes of
poor non white peoples everywhere. This Martin Luther King was
calling for a radical redistribution of wealth and political power
in American society as a way to provide food, clothing, shelter,
medical care, jobs, education, and hope for all of our
country's people.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Right, it's race communism. Like you know BAP likes to
point out, I think it's pretty accurate to call him
a communist both in the sort of original technical meeting
and also you know, in his racial politics. I mean,
a friendly crusade for racial integration. Get real, I mean
this is a problem too, where like the thing with

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MLK is like, oh, he's he's peaceful or whatever, and
like I said earlier, that just gets you to ignore
all the violence. You know, I think it's actually right
to you know, judge people not just by what they
do themselves, but what their followers do, you know, in
their wak. I think that's a completely valid way to
you know, look at figures like this and you know,

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judging by everything else around MLK. You know, he he
was fully aware of what he was doing in the
role he was playing in terms of you know, being
this you know figure that white people were supposed to
to love while you know, providing cover for the radicals
like Malcolm.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
X Connor on YouTube says, I'm taking a workplace harassment
course for MLK Day. Thanks for the fire content. One
of the things I wanted to say here when you
go back to this paragraph, the transformation that seeks to
legitimize the symbols of American history and national identity, Well
that happened. They succeeded in doing that. Also, perhaps even

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the meaning of the Christian faith. They've succeeded, succeeded in
doing that, even like the Presbyterian Church of America when
I went to one of their seminaries, you know, in
two thousand, you know, from two thousand, in two thousand
and three, they were probably some of the most conservative
people I've ever met with the conservative program. And I
just thought the PCA would always be conservative. It's not anymore.

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They're changing. The Southern Baptist Convention another one. I mean,
I worked for them at one point. They they're all
bowing down to the woke. And where did this stuff start?
It started with this.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
They've been bowing you know since before I was born.
They came out of the womb in the bowed position
because the you know, their progenitors were doing it too.
Like this has just been going on. When was this
written eighty eight, so it's thirty five years or something
like that. It's been the same thing, all right.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Roger Wilkins, civil rights leader, activist and now a senior
fellow at the far left Institute for Policy Studies in Washington,
had some similar thoughts about the meaning of doctor King's
legacy in the Washington Post, and similar interpretations of the
man and the holiday could be reproduced from the major
media of public opinion for every year since the holiday
was created. To be sure, the use of the King

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Holiday to legitimize the left's long march to America's institutions
is not the only meaning attributed to it. At the
time of its enactment by Congress. Various rationales were offered
by liberals and conservatives alike that the holiday was merely
a celebration of the personal virtues of a man of
courage and vision, that it honored the national rejection of
racial bigotry, and that it was a holiday for American blacks, who,

(31:33):
it was patronizingly said, needed their own hero much as
children in a restaurant need their own menu. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, he's not really a hero for blacks as he
though he's a hero for whites. That's the whole point,
Like blacks don't care about an MLK that much, they
care about the other more radical figures war.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, but I think that's a great line as a
just as a much as a child in a restaurant
needs their own menu. Yet these are not the presiding
apologea apologia for the holiday, nor were they at the
time it was adopted, and the radical interpretation of Doctor
King and his Legacy is both the dominant as well

(32:15):
as the more accurate version. The objective meaning of the
King Holiday, the actual meaning, independent of what its sponsors
thought they might meant, or what some of its celebrants
think that they mean, now, has little to do with
the renunciation of cross burnings and lynch parties, or even
of less malevolent incarnations of Jim Crow. To be sure,

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a nation that honors Doctor King and his Legacy renounces
such manifestations of racial inequality, but it also must renounce
all forms of inequality, racial or other, because if all
men are indeed equal, then it is absurd to say
that only some forms of inequality or equal If, as
doctor King understood it, the Declaration of Independence is a

(32:56):
promissory note, not merely declaration of national independence, but also
imperative of social reconstruction, then the delimate deltamate delegitimization of
the traditional symbols, values, and institutions of America is not
only in order but also long overdue. And the radical
reconstruction of American society is not only a legitimate goal

(33:20):
but also the principal legitimate goal of our national endeavors.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, this is another problem Americans are susceptible to where Uh,
I guess we read too much in literally to some
of the founding documents, like the Declaration of Independence. Uh
if you, if you sort of worship these documents and
treat them like their scripture, which again sort of plays
into this religious you know weakness that Americans can have

(33:47):
for for this sort of trickery. Uh, well, you can
get trapped in these these sort of tricks that King
is pulling air where he's sort of a he's appealing
to your sort of Anglo sensibilities with the reference to
the Declaration of Independence. There, I mean, these things can't
just be understood purely textually. They have to be understood

(34:08):
within the historical context of the men who produce them.
And you have to you have to understand that context
in order to get what America actually is, or at
least was supposed to be. It's not just something that's
written down on papers.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, Doctor King understood this well himself, expressing it in
the millen in the millenary and imagery he loved and
used so effectively. I have a dream that one day
every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall
be made low, The rough places shall be made planes,
and the crooked places shall be made straight, and the
glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh

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shall see it together.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
I mean, that's that sounds great when you read it
in his his millinery and voice like I mimicked earlier,
but actually read what he's saying there. I mean this,
this is what communism is, or race communism sounds awful.
It's every valley and hill leveled, everything turned into one
giant flat plane. I mean, that doesn't sound good to me.

(35:10):
That's that's what That's what communism is. It's literally, literally
it's a leveling of everything. That's it's it's disgusting. It
produces a completely boring world, devoid of anything interesting at all.
It's like this is this is literally the bug man.
He's he's laying out a sort of religious statement of
what a bug man is. Everyone's just going to live

(35:32):
this singular, boring life where no one is allowed to
express difference, which is where everything interesting comes from.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Doctor King, of course, seldom trouble to inquire into the
sources of his dream and today it occurs to no
one to ask why his dreams should prevail over the
less grandiose dreams of others. Like all charismatic profits, he
was the founds of his own authority, and his private
visions were intended to become law for lesser men. Among

(36:02):
the several hills and mountains that wait lowering by the
New God and his gnostic bulldozers is the tradition common
among white Southerners of displaying the Confederate flag in places
of honor. Some Southern states, Alabama and South Carolina in particular,
still fly the stars and bars over their state capitals,
while the official flags of several other Southern states retain
at Saint Andrew's cross design In one way or another.

(36:25):
The NAACP has recently decided that the flag must go
and has given the project priority in its current legislative agenda,
and innumerable Southern schools already have been obliged to give
up the flag as the symbol of their local football teams,
along with the playing of Dixie, calling the team the rebels,
and other traditional usages distinctive of Southern cultured identity. I mean,

(36:50):
could you imagine that, I mean, there were actually football
teams that displayed the Dixie flag at the Southern flag
at that time.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, I can vaguely remember, you know, that sort of
imagery from my childhood, but it was fading at that point.
You know, this once again totally blows out the water
the idea of the slippery slope being a fallacy, uh,
because it isn't you know, they they they're still they
came for the Mississippi state flag a few years ago,
and it's a they come for the flags, they come

(37:21):
for the statues, they come for you. Uh. You know,
no one is protected from this. It's not going to
stop at any point. It's not reasonable in any case
to remove any of these symbols ever, period, simply because
they demand it.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, yep, all right. Uh. In Alabama, state Representative Thomas
Reid threatened to tear down the flag over the state
House if it were not removed. It wasn't, and Governor
Guy Hunt had the local head of the NAACP arrested
when he clambered over the fence with his merry band
of icon smashers. Alabama Representative Alvin Holmes readily compares the

(38:00):
Confederacy to Nazi Germany and instructs the people of the
state quote, they need to forget about the Confederacy. Earl Schinhoster,
head of the Southeastern Division of the NAACP, says, to
the flags, they're racist symbols. These flags stand for racism, divisiveness,
and oppression and also for defiance and resistance to school segregation.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah. Well he just said the quiet part out loud
there more or less. You know, that's the Durremberg moral paradigm.
You know, if you're a right wing uh, that means
you are a Nazi and that's illegal.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yep. Columnist Carl Rowan, who seldom declines to dance to
the NAACP's tune, compares the flag to the Nazi swastika.
And writes, quote, show me a guy who rides around
with Confederate flags flying on his front fenders, and I'll
show you someone who thinks the Civil War still goes on.
I'll give you a racist who thinks that it is

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only a matter of time before this nation makes white
supremacy it's official policy and returns to slavery with black
people the god designated humors of wood and drawers of water.
Mister Rowan apparently has never had a dream of a
day when men would not be judged by the color
of their front fenders.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I mean, that's that's really insane.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I love this return to slavery thing.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Well, who would who would ever even want to own slaves? Like?
Could you imagine how miserable that would be to to
like manage slaves. I don't want just to make them
like build your furniture. I mean what, I don't want
them near my property now? The fuck No, it's it's
it's so I mean, slavery would have been out of

(39:37):
the windows civil War or not, just because it's so
horribly inefficient.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Like, the idea that white people like actually want to
own slaves is crazy. I mean even at even at
the time, it was viewed as this unfortunate problem that
you know, we wish we could get rid of, but
the economy in the South was simply too tied to
slave labor in order to easily just sort of untangle.
But I mean, there's there's virtually no expression of the

(40:04):
idea in America that like, really we really want to
own slaves, Like nobody wants that. In fact, like it's
a good thing that at least, given that the war
between the States happened, at least out of it, slavery
was actually eliminated. You know, that's that is that actual positive,
you know, for all the bloodshed, at least we got
rid of this one thing that you know, we really

(40:27):
should never have had to begin with. And nobody, nobody
wants to bring it back.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, nobody. And it's just the problem was is they
don't they after they ended it, they didn't deal with
the obvious issue that you know, the elephant in the room.
Seasider sent a super chat on YouTube saluting us. Thank
you all right. Next, but the fact that many Southerners

(40:54):
and some non Southerners regard the Confederate flag as a
symbol of things other than racism, Southern culture for identity,
sacrifice for a cause, and interpretation of the Constitution or
simply ancestral piety does not really help. Mister Schinhauster, mister Rowan,
mister Reid, and mister Holmes All and mister Holmes all
are correct that the Confederate flag symbolizes a cause that

(41:16):
was defeated in eighteen sixty five and which is not
compatible with the worldview symbolized by Doctor King's holiday. If
as a nation we are going to honor Doctor King
as an official hero, then we cannot also continue to
honor the Confederate flag and the political and cultural identity
that is the main contents of its symbolism. It is
merely a matter of time before the Confederate Flag is surrendered,

(41:38):
along with local statues of Confederate veterans and heroes, Dixie
and most other memorials of Antebellum civilization. Their passing may
not be a cause of mourning among many outside of
the South, or many within the South for that matter,
but the same logic that compels their abandonment reaches further.
The three most prominent monuments in Washington, d c. Are

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those dedicated to Jorge to Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln.
If they're a school child, If there is a school
child in the United States today who does not know
that the first two were Is there a school child
in the United States today who does not know that
the first two were slave owners? So by George Washington
Thomas Jefferson, is there any literate person in America who
does not know that none of the three was a

(42:20):
racial egalitarian, that every one of them uttered statements that
made Jimmy, that made jim make Jimmy the Greeks sound
like an ACLU lawyer. The same argument that drives mister
Snyder from his low but honest trade and pulls down
a banner commemorating the last stand of a desperate people
will demolish the obelisk in temples that memorialize the major

(42:42):
statesman of the American nation. And we saw, we saw
that happen, We see we're watching it happen now.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah, and then that quote earlier about the Civil War
you know still going on? Well is it not? I
mean that's what MLK is just a continuation, oh, just
a war against America itself. So yeah, it is still
going on. It's not white rebels doing it. It's the
other side, and they're you know, just pure, pure vindictiveness

(43:13):
on their part.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Nor is it merely the physical symbols of the old
America that are shattered. Last May Supreme Court Justice, their
good Marshal proclaimed in a public speech that he could
not find the wisdom, foresight, and sense of justice exhibited
by the framers of the US Constitution particularly profound because
they did not bow to the egalitarian and universalist idols
and the shrines where Justice Marshall has worshiped all his life,

(43:39):
and because they failed to include blacks and women in
the Constitution. The document they drafted was defective from the start,
no doubt. It is just what happened.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's like, how could this guy be a Supreme Court justice?
I mean, you know, we have clowns in there today,
at least fifty percent of them total clowns, who have
no biess even being in that highest court. How can
you be an effective and fair Supreme Court justice if
you don't even believe in the Constitution itself. Yeah, as

(44:16):
a document that you're supposed to dedicate yourself to.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
I mean, I mean, we saw the latest Supreme Court
judge didn't even know what was in the Constitution one question,
So yeah, no doubt. It is astonishing that an Associate
Justice of the Supreme Court could say that the fundamental
law of the country, which is his business and his
duty to interpret, is inherently flawed. But the Justice merely

(44:40):
forces us up another rung. On the latter, we forfeited
the right to rever the Constitution, the governmental principles and
mechanisms it established, and the men who wrote it when
we put doctor King into the pantheon. The federalism, rule
of law, states rights, limits on majority rule, checks and balances,
and separation of powers that characterize the Constitution all are

(45:00):
incompatible with the full blossoming of the egalitarian democracy that
doctor King envision and which is the completion of the
radical reconstruction to which his holiday commits us. Political symbols
in the form of the Confederate Flag anthems such as
Dixie and Maryland, My Maryland, and the Constitution itself are

(45:22):
not the only routes to be pulled up. However. Last year,
the Reverend Jesse Jackson led a protest march at Stanford
University in one of the more explicit demonstrations against the
humanity's curriculum at the school, giving the chant hey ho hey, hey,
hey ho ho, Western culture has got to go. This year,
the Faculty Senate of the university considered a proposal to

(45:43):
abandon a required course on Western culture and to replace
it with one entitled Culture Ideas and Values. The latter
contained no core list of assigned readings, and the only
requirement was that the professors included in their assignments works
by women, minority and persons of color, and emphasized the
last six to eight centuries. In particular, one alternative course,

(46:07):
developed by Professor Claiborne Carson, director of the Martin Luther
King Junior Papers Project, required such texts as Black Elks, Beaks,
a I A Woman w du Bois, The Souls of
Black Folk, France Fannin, and those long neglected Third World
persons of Color, Herbert Marcuse and Karl Marx. Whatever merits

(46:31):
such writers might have over the ancient, medieval, and modern
classics of the West, it should be clear that the
alternative curriculum was intended as part of the radical reconstruction
of the American mind and the extirpation of the philosophical
roots of Western predominance. The demand for the change at Stanford,
according to news reports, was led by black, Hispanic and

(46:54):
Asian students who denounced the traditional curriculum as a year
long class in racism.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, we still see that war chant used today in
various contexts. It it shows just how old their organization is,
how long they've been doing this. I was also forced
to read, you know, these works by women, minorities, persons
of color, whatever, you know, W. E.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Dubois.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
You know, so this this stuff did effectively replace any
more traditional education you'd have in the Western canon. You know,
most people my age and younger only read this modern
trash now and spend very little time actually in our
own history. Of course, the idea is just to you know,
eliminate our own history. That's why we only look at
the last six to eight centuries, as they said there,

(47:43):
we don't even go that far back. I mean, it
would be actually great if we covered anything that far
back in most of what happens in you know, public
schools since the nineties and beyond.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I actually I actually took an African American lit course
at college as an elective, and uh, you know, this
stuff is just garbage. It's just it's just garbage. Uh,
it shouldn't, No one should study it in any serious
university period.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
But I mean, even I read the book Black Black
Elk Speaks, and all that is is the perpetuating the
myth of the noble, you know, the noble Native American
who you know, was peaceful, never had any wars among themselves,
and just total fucking bullshit. The point, of course, is

(48:35):
not that the establishment of the King holiday makes the
extorvation of the traditional symbols of American and Western civilization inevitable.
Anti American and anti Western movements found that on militant
egalitarian universalism are powerful forces and would make gains regardless
of the holiday, but that once the United States or
its national government chose to adopt Doctor King as an

(48:57):
official hero, neither the American people northerly have any legitimate
grounds for resisting the logic and dynamic of such forces
and the radical reconstruction of American society that is implicit
in them. It is one thing to say that Doctor
King was a great man and a great American, a
man whose personal courage and vision, despite his human flaws
and errors and enthusiasms, challenged lesser men of both races

(49:20):
and forced them to confront evils, falsehoods, and obsolete ways.
It is quite another to say, as the US government
does say in creating a legal public holiday for him,
that Martin Luther King Junior was the most important American
who ever lived, at least a peer of George Washington,
the father of his country, the only American in history
to have his birthday made a national holiday, the man

(49:40):
who is now first in the hearts of his Countrymen Conservatives,
some of whom, like representatives Jack Kamp and Gangrich, voted
for the King Holiday in nineteen eighty three, may devise
whatever clever rationales for supporting it they can imagine. But
mister Harding's understanding of the meaning of King's Holiday as
far cle of the truth in any case. Aside from

(50:02):
obligatory genuflections to the King by neo conservatives, cultural conservatives,
and the adherence to mister Gingrich's conservative opportunity society, I
know of not a single serious, sustained effort by those
on the contemporary American right to substantiate their endorsement of
the holiday, or of any serious argument why conservatives should

(50:23):
honor doctor King at all, if there are valid reasons
why we should do so, we do not hear them.
What do we What do we hear are sermons from
apostles such as mister Harding and company, most of whom
can press a far more persuasive claim to doctor King's
legacy than conservatives of any description.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Yeah, I mean I saw some of this today. It's
you see, so called conservatives are so called right wingers,
you know, uttering the praises of Martin Luther King. You
know they'll say something negative about them too, But it's like,
can't you just say nothing instead? Like why even say
why even say anything positive about this guy? Rejected completely
he was total scum, terrible human being. Uh, we reject

(51:06):
idea that he deserves to have a holiday on the
same level as the actual people who created this country
for their you know, for their children. And yeah, there's
there's no reason to pay lip service to it. You
don't win either way, as we saw earlier. You know,
if you if you try to play house conservative, you

(51:27):
still lose. So why why play the stupid game where
you like, you know, do some sort of mental gymnastics
to figure out how you can like espouse something positive
about the guy, because it's not going to be enough.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Infuriating.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah, everyone who's watching. As I said earlier, if you
want a super chat, I'll read it. You can make
it as you can write whatever you want. I may
just alter it a little bit if it's a little
more insane than something even I would say. So that
that legs, as its keepers know, is profoundly at odds
with the historic American order, and that is why they

(52:05):
can have no rest until the symbols of that order
are pulled up root and branch to say that doctor
King and the cause he really represented is now part
of the official American creed, indeed the defining and dominant
symbol of that creed, which is what both houses of
the United States Congress said in nineteen eighty three and
what President Ronald Regan signed into law shortly afterwards, is
the beginning of a new order of the ages, in

(52:27):
which the symbols of the old order and the things
they symbolize can retain neither meaning nor respect, in which
they are as mute and dark as the gods of
Babylon entire, and from whose cold ashes will rise a
new God, leveling their rough places, straightening their crookedness and
exalting every valley until the whole earth is flattened beneath

(52:48):
his feet and precedes the glory of the new Lord.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah. One of the problems too, I've been seeing is people,
well even at the time you saw that lady point
out in that article that the school teacher that you
know MLK was a communist or whatever. Obviously that came
with more weight at its time, but people will still
say that, you know, the problem is that he's a
communist or he's a Marxist's like, now, the problem with
MLK isn't that he's a communist, is that he's a

(53:18):
he's a black supremacist who hates and wants to destroy
whites and wants to take away everything that you know,
white people created in America and actually, well you know
they succeeded at doing that pretty much. That's why he's bad.
It's not because he's a freaking communist. I mean, that's
not good either, but that's not why you know, you
should revile this person. You should revile him specifically because
of his racial politics. You know, that's not the redeeming

(53:40):
factor that he was a communist, but he was like
this gentle, you know racial Equality Guide like that that
itself is the reason to hate him.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean when you read this article and
when you especially that he's quoting so many people, when
you see the quotes and the things that they're trying
to accomplish, and then you finally you look around today
and you're like, oh, they accomplished that. That that's done.

(54:09):
They won, And where do you go from there? I
mean it's I mean they won.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Yeah, they did win, And yeah, it's like this is
what really. I hate the term woke. I hate all
this crap where we supposed to like call our enemies
Marxists or play into this stupid color blind myth that
you know, this particular holiday is all about. Like, no,
that is the problem. It's not that the left or

(54:41):
radical Marxist or something stupid like that, or postmodernist. It's like,
it's it's that they are racial supremacists who hate white people.
They want to destroy and take away everything would from
white people. The only sense in which there are communists
is that they're they're race communists. And that's the whole problem.
That's not redeeming factor. You know, I just get so

(55:02):
tired of this you know, I have to say, I mean,
we are getting some pretty good wins the last couple
of uh the last year. You know, even watching Devin
Stack's video on the uh the tunnels in New York,
he even sort of expressed some white pilled sentiments, which
was pretty surprising considering his channel is named black Pilled.

(55:23):
But you know, it's it's like, you still have this
tendency on the rate that we have to just smash,
like that's the enemy rate. The enemy is the center right.
You know, RUFO is putting himself out today as this
sort of figure. I mean this, these sentiments where you
pay any lip service to the idols has to be
just totally crushed and shamed out of existence, because the

(55:46):
only way to get the power within our faction is
to destroy the direct competitor, you know, which is the
people just to your left right. It's kind of like
the opposite of the way the left works is like
there's no enemies to the left. All enemies are to
the right. For us, all enemies are to the left.

(56:07):
And if you're one of these like center right dorks,
who's just like, oh, it's the woke and the Marxist
and you know, we love racial quality, even though that's
not what it means. Like you're the bad guy, right,
You're you're doing more than the radicals ever could do
to actually reinforce the regime that actually crushes you.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah, Rufo said today that tock to attack MLK is shortsighted.
We measure our great statesmen by their accomplishments within the
tragic conditions of human of history and human nature. Oh
so do we don't? Do? We measure great statesmen on
the conditions in Weimar in the nineteen twenties. Right now, now,

(56:51):
let's not talk about that. Whether it's Founders or doctor King.
A certain degree of idealization is necessary for creating a
coherent national narrative.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
It's necessary, it's necessary to idealize Martin Luther King. Are
you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I mean, I agree that a certain level of idealization
is needed for a coherent national national narrative. But if
your identity is going to be associated with doctor King,
it is completely at odds with that of the Founders,
which you put, which you put right before him.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Right, he's doing this game where he's you know, he's
reinforcing what the holiday is is where Martin Luther King
is a what do they call it, a late arriving founder.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I've heard that. And he says
after that the correct reaction to the left's noxious ideology
is not to say we need radicalism on the right.
It is to say we recognize the realities of race,
but aspired to a higher standard, the full expression of
natural rights that subordinates racial faction to the best of

(57:54):
our nation.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, I would just recommend on this point go read
the Distributist Substack from the other day, which sort of
addresses this idea of the purpose of what a system is,
what it does, and it gets into this idea of
meritocracy and what it really means. I think he totally
blows this take out of the water in an indirect fashion.

(58:17):
That's probably the best essay of the year so far.
It's only been fifteen days, but in terms of what
I've seen produced this year, I think the Distributist essay
is a must read. It's like the latest on a substack.
I forget what the title is.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
We do have a super chat here. Tony Offshore said,
can you guys elaborate on Stanley Levinson and who his
backers were? I will tell you what I know about
Stanley Levinson. Outside of the obvious, he was he was
a radical. I mean he he aided in the defense
of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, which they were communists and

(58:54):
they were traders. He was a treasurer of the American
Jewish Congress. This is all stuff you can find out
on his Wikipedia. I mean, he he's basically one of
the one of the creator. He basically helped create the
civil rights movement in the United States, working with the
Southern Creative Christian Leadership Conference, who was more than happy

(59:18):
to help them. So yeah, I mean it was you
want me to say it, I'll say it. It was
Jewish money that backed the Civil rights the civil rights movement.
The Civil Rights movement was distinctly Jewish. The heart what
was his first name, I can't even remember. Something really
Jewish from the oh no seller from the Heart Seller

(59:40):
act Jewish. And he basically wrote the Civil Rights Act.
He wrote the Immigration Act, which is basically destroyed the
country as far as immigration goes for the last you know,
since nineteen sixty five, fifty almost sixty years. So yeah,
I mean, the this is a it's it is what

(01:00:04):
it is. It's what we say it is. And as
as z Man said in his podcast is Great podcast
from this past Friday, he said, the problem with the
right is they always ask how, and they never ask who.
If you're not asking who, what's the point of knowing

(01:00:29):
the how? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
They can't ask who because that starts to get into
scary identitarian politics, Like that's bad. I really hate this
concept that having like collective group politics is somehow bad.
It's the most asinine way of looking at the world ever,
and it's it's frankly born from a serious hubris, as
if like, oh, you're an individual, you don't need anybody else.

(01:00:53):
You could just be an individual and not you know,
you don't you don't actually need any similar people around
you to help you. You're totally independent. It's this sort
of like libertarian esque attitude that some Americans tend to take,
but that's retarded, frankly, like you're not an individual. You
are part of a group, whether you want to be
or not, and you you depend on these systems and

(01:01:14):
other people to keep your life going. You know, like me,
like I'm quote unquote off grid, right, but I still
need gasoline from complex systems and refineries. You know, I'd
eat complex electrical systems, all kinds of stuff. I'm never
you can never be some like truly independent, you know,
man on your own. So rejecting quote unquote identitarianism as

(01:01:35):
this bad weak thing is completely asked backwards. It's it's
it's not a weakness, it's it's actually a strength to
recognize that actually, no, you can't just stand on your
own and you do need to depend on other people, right,
it's overcoming your own hubris to do that. It's not
weakness to to to feel these you know, the belonging

(01:01:57):
to some particular identity that way people call it, like,
you know, it's like you're prideful. It's like, no, you're
not prideful. The pride is imagining that you, yourself are
this self contained unit who can get by without anyone
else that you're going to depend on as as part
of this larger group. That's that's what pride actually is.
It's self pride.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Anyway, So son of hast super chat on YouTube, thank
you very much, says finally caught a stream live. It
was cathartic to hear Charlie talking about how much he
hates the term woke. There's a lot, there's a lot there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Yeah. Yeah, it's the same thing with like the term dissonet, right.
I've always hated that term as well. Mostly it's used
as a slur. But well, yeah, again woke. It's just
a horrible term. The only context in which you should
use it as when there's there's no biable alternatives, you know,
at least put scare quotes around it if you're going

(01:02:52):
to use it. It just totally fails to what what
woke does is this new speak that hides this entire
history that we just went through and pretends like the
woke is some new phenomenon that just sort of came
out of nowhere in response to President Trump, which is
total nonsense.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Cato Man fifty five another super chat over an entropy,
Thank you so much. He says Rufo is a subversive
person paid by Zionist Paul Singer, whose other causes are
pro immigration and LGBTQ. He asked, the question, is this
quote unquote based or is it neokon two point zero?

(01:03:34):
What is the question again? Yeah? I Cato Man, I
love you. I don't understand the question. He says, Rufo
is subversive paid by his zionist Paul Singer, whose other
causes are pro immigration and LGBTQ, is this and he
puts in quotes based. I'm thinking he's saying based in
a negative way. I just don't understand what the negative

(01:03:54):
way he's saying it is in or is it neocon?
Two point?

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Oh well, for some reason the term neocon is getting
thrown around a lot lately.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
I don't I don't think no one wants to because
people don't want to say.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
To yeah, fair enough, Yeah it's not neocon. It's it's
definitely not based. I mean yeah, it's like Rufo seems
to be doing this thing where he's like, oh yeah,
scalped Claudine gay or whatever. But it's like, I don't
care how many you know, black ladies you get fired.
I'm not going to listen to your zio takes. Basically,
like you're not You're not going to become some right

(01:04:31):
wing hero because you did that. Like you know that
I was great. I thought that was, you know, cool
to do. Frankly, I know some people are like, oh, well,
the j's are just coming in now. It's like, yeah, okay, whatever,
I mean, it was. It's nice to sort of break
their aura of invincibility. You know, even if they just
sort of play this like two step where they swap
in another person, but you know, it's you're not going

(01:04:53):
to become somethre a hero we all listen to just
because you you sort of orchestrated that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Yeah else, Leon on super chat on YouTube, thank you.
The white quote unquote white man's burden is destroying the world.
That nons have the tools to violate the planet and
are multiplying quickly. Something must be done when we have power.
When Coola and others warn warns this, I think El

(01:05:22):
sid leone is English is not his first language, and
thank you for learning how to speak other and being
able to speak more than one language, because I don't.
But the white man's burden is say it is destroying
the world. These nuns have tools to violate the planet
and are multiplying quickly. Something must be done when we
have power. So yeah, I mean he's basically saying I

(01:05:46):
think the quote he's quoting white man's burden, he may
be talking about another group who claims to be white.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
I mean this, the white man's burden right now is
to overcome this this self destructive polls to go around
elevating everyone else on the planet, even if it means,
you know, exporting all of our industry and bringing the
third world into Europe and America. That's the burden, apparently,
as we're just obsessed with this idea of elevating the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Yeah. John Morton five British pounds on on YouTube, Thanks mate.
Did blacks in general actually want desegregation or did they
want more stuff for black people? I would answer that
they wanted neither. I think this was foisted upon them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
The civil rights is not some sort of movement. It's
just you know, the will of the people in power
being enforced. You know, like you said, most blacks, like
you know, most white people were just more or less
a political and this this ideology has been forced on them,
just the same it's been forced on white people when

(01:06:58):
the reality was, you know, things were moving along well
enough for everybody, and there was no real, organic, you know,
mass civil rights movement. I don't like the term movement,
what even referencing this thing, because it implies some sort
of populous dimension to it, which there really wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah. Yeah, well, I el sid says, he says, I
was forced to compact. I ran out of letters. I
appreciate it, thank you, thanks for another super chat there.
I've talked to all blacks here in South Carolina. They
didn't support desegregation, so I think it was justin justin

(01:07:38):
Landers saying that, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
What it did is it ripped up their communities because
you know, they were brought at gunpoint on both ends
to white schools and white areas and that sort of thing,
like you're forcing them also to break up their you know,
community bonds and just go get thrown into these other
places they don't belong in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Wing Te prod with like a penny super chat over
on Odyssey says, if dissidentt right isn't a good term,
what does Charlamagne propose? I use west Man, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Know, man, like dissident right has become a slur. I
don't really I don't feel the need for a term.
I kind of use sensible centrist in a tumming chungue
in cheek way. I like Bapp's faction of truth idea,
but do we even need some sort of like faction
label like it's a video game or something like. I
don't really, I don't really care what you're called would

(01:08:42):
people call me about like grouping myself in some broadway,
Like I can pretty easily identify my friends and enemies
without any sort of label. I think the labels are
they just become slurs as dissident right has.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Yeah, I like what Thomas says. He says, we're not
Jevis witnesses, we're for a vanguard. Yeah, we're a vanguard movement.
And you know, I think a lot of people don't
understand what he's saying. I hesitate to explain it because
of the implications, but you know, it's something I think
people should look up because it's, uh, it's exactly what

(01:09:21):
it is. And I love that he he says, you know,
we're not Jovah's witnesses because it just immediately destroys democracy.
Even libertarians are like libertarians like, well, you know, we
just need to get more people woken up. I'm like, okay,
So then you believe in democracy. You believe that if
you get enough people to believe what you believe, you
can No, that's not the way it works.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Yeah, And I I stopped caring about convincing people or
debating or arguing. I mean, debates are good don't get
me wrong, but I mean, like in terms of like
trying to red pill people a long time ago, Like
I just don't care. I don't I don't care how
many people I like wake up or something that I
just sort of put out content or whatever that I
feel needs to be said at the time for the

(01:10:03):
people who are already sort of like part of this
thing of ours rate And if you're not, you know,
you're welcome to come in. But I'm not really out
to like propagandize and you know, try and like turn
turn this thing into a mass movement or something. I'm
just you know, you know, I'm just interested. I'm interested
in history, truth or you know, these sort of things.
This is the kind of content I make. If you're

(01:10:25):
interested and you sort of you know, vibe with what
we're doing, it's yeah, you know, that's that's great. And
if not, well whatever, man, you know, like I'm not
out to form some sort of like big political faction
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Yeah. I mean right now, we're not at the point.
We're nowhere near the point where we need to be. Yeah.
So it's like I'm just, I guess, more than anything,
I'm trying to tell people just get your personal shit together,
you know, get your personal life together by land, pay,
get out of debt, get your home.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Getting out of debt can't really be overstated. Like I'm
not at that point yet, but you know I will
be eventually if everything continues right, and it'll still be
well obviously, but you know, you just don't take on debt,
and if you have debt, your priority should just be
paying off once once you actually live debt free and
you don't owe constant you know, large sums of money

(01:11:23):
to a bank or whatever. Uh, It's like that will
just liberate you to such a huge degree because you
just gain the freedom to sort of not care anymore
and not sort of have to enslave yourself to these
systems to get by because you can actually you know,
if you actually own your property and everything, you can

(01:11:44):
get by on actually very little money and it becomes
actually like viable to do what you're doing. For example,
where you're you just I mean I think you just
like full time stream at this point, right, Yeah, like
you if you want to do that, that's how you
do it. As you get rid of your debt.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Yeah, I mean I'm not completely out of that, but
like when we moved here. I had I had to
buy a mower, and I didn't want to buy used one,
so I bought one new. But I got it if
I paid it off in six months, no interest. And
I mean that was like, I mean, I was I
stressed over it. It's like, I got to get this
thing paid off. I gotta get this until and then
when I made the final payment, you know, in five months,
you know, four and a half months, five months, I

(01:12:18):
was just like, great, great, Now I only I mean really,
I only have both of the cars, are paid for everything.
It's just the house at this point, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Yeah, And having having like a decent sized property not
in a suburb as well, is really good because what
you can do is okay, yeah, maybe you can have
very small home and no debt, but what you can
do is you can build up something larger over time
without having to take on, you know, additional loans for it.
So yeah, I'm a, I mean, that's this is also

(01:12:47):
what I did, right, But I'm a I think it's
a good idea to get a large foundation first and
work from that the correct way rather than trying to,
you know, buy your giant house on a small piece
of property, because then and you're just stuck there too, right,
and the only solution to expansion is Okay, well, now
I guess I got to go in a debt to
buy a bigger house, whereas if you had started with

(01:13:08):
your foundation, you know, you can build within your means.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Yeah, now that's a you're one hundred percent right. It's
just what I have now is what I have now
is perfect. And the people have surrounding me in real
life who who I can rely upon for for things
that if I had a bigger property I could deal with.
I have people around me that I can rely upon

(01:13:34):
for things, and they can rely upon me for things.
So I've already been here less than a year and
already made some really really good, really good contacts in
real life. So yeah, all right, that's it. Let's get
out of here. What do you what do you want
to promote Ceppal Glory Club?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Oh uh, well, that's a good question these days, I
guess you can always check out my blog Reactor. I
do try to do book reviews there. I am working
on one right now. I mean, this is my paid content.
I've been reading a few books on mid century Germany
and none of them quite done it for me into
being able to produce a post, but I'm trying to

(01:14:15):
come up with a combination post. I'm reading an interesting
book right now called This is Germany by Anglo written
in nineteen thirty eight. That's pretty interesting. Check out my
YouTube channel Charlemagne for mostly coverage of the Ukraine conflict
these days. And I guess in terms of Old Glory Club,
we're going to be doing true detective reviews in the

(01:14:35):
coming weeks, so I think people will find that fascinating.
So definitely, you know, by a subscription to check out that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Content I'm doing on my sub stack, I'm making every
attempt to do three a week, two of them public,
one private, and the one private one. The one private
a week. I started a series last week basically on
things that I've been reading that have been written by

(01:15:04):
Jewish authors and philosophers trying to understand the psychology behind
their thinking. So I started last week with how they
when one Jew is attacked, every Jew is attacked. That's
the way they look at it. I think ten to
seven proved that pretty much, that they all come together.

(01:15:28):
But you know, if one is if one is a torturer,
like if one is h Yagoda in the Soviet Union,
he has to be judges an individual. And I've just
taken to looking at I'm reading right now Israel Shahak's
Jew Rereading jew Jewish History, Jewish religion, the way to

(01:15:50):
three thousand years, And there's so much in there. There's
so much in there that people don't know that even
I think even most Jews don't know that. I'm gonna
start tearing that apart. So all right, Dawn threw a
super chat at the last minute there. Thank you so much.

(01:16:10):
I appreciate it, and she says, good luck with that
Pete with big with eyes wide emoji, but thank you
everyone for tuning in. I appreciate it, and for myself
and for Charlie. Take care, have a good day.

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