September 13, 2024 • 44 mins
In this episode, Adam welcomes Oscar Celli, who shares his aviation journey and awesome info about the LPA!
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Network Logan.
It's Adam.
And today, I have a guest that is not theaverage guest we normally have on the TPN
podcast.
Oscar, he is a member of the Latino PilotAssociation.
He's got a really cool aviation job, somethingthat's a little different than what we normally
have because Oscar is a lower time pilot, andhe has just started his aviation journey a
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couple years back.
And he's not where a lot of the experiencedfolks who are transitioning out of the military
looking for a part 121 gig or that regionalline check airman who's ready to move on to his
major her major of choice for the rest of theircareer.
Oscar is in different world.
So, Oscar, I wanted to thank you for joining usnumber 1.
And number 2, what are you doing and who areyou doing it for?
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Because it's pretty cool.
Hey, Adam.
Thank you, man.
It's an honor to be here at your podcast, andthank you to the listeners that are listening.
So how you said, you know, it's kind of, youknow, like a weird story because, you know, as
a kid, I always dream to you know, with space,with being an astronaut, you know, like, I'm
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sure a lot of listeners, do or did.
Yeah.
So and I will I I was always, you know, one dayI'm gonna be up there.
You know, I remember the International SpaceStation where it came out and it was just
fascinating, you know, to I I was dreaming tolook at, you know, see everything from above,
you know, from some from the distance.
So yeah.
So, you know, it was always a dream but alwayshad this weird, you know, dogma or however you
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wanna call it of the illusion of that that yougotta be perfect.
Right?
To to go to space, to to go to fly an airplane,you have to, you know, be perfect vision, know
your mathematics, you know, be able tocalculate on the spot, you know, with pencil
and rulers and like a compass, you know.
So Charlie Charlie through my childhood, youknow, I'm like, nope.
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Like, I'm I'm not I cannot, you know, do this.
I need a calculator, you know, to
so
I'm like, okay.
Yeah.
So I put my dream on a side and I'm I decideto, you know, move to the states where
obviously, you know, I moved to a state fromVenezuela in 2,005 where obviously, you know, I
saw more exposure.
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Right?
Like, a bigger air yeah.
Bigger airplanes.
You know, like, small, big, all sizes.
You know?
I I went to NASA and saw, you know, the wholespace platform and the museum and the old, you
know, the all the the old stuff and I'm like,the picture.
I'm like, well, you know, like I mean, we wentto space, you know, the United States went to
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space, you know, like, Apollo 13, Apollo 11,everything.
So you're like, wow.
You know?
At least I'm closer, you know, to the dream.
So Yeah.
Yeah.
Then, you know, I decide to when I I didengineering drafting, you know, because I
thought I always thought it was kind of cool todraw, you know, all the mechanics and the cool
parts.
I I will never forget.
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One of my drafting teachers, was into RCs andeverything.
So, he used to draw, you know, in class, youknow, like doodle doodling.
I think you call it, you know, like littleairplanes and and I will say, oh, that's cool.
And I I I started, you know, like, making fakemeasurements and stuff.
You know?
You're just like, designing these littlethings.
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You know?
So, you know, how I say always dreaming aboutit, but then, you know, I got into in more into
the creative art.
So I I went for to our school down in Florida.
I learned, you know, all the detail arts andemotion graphics and video production, which,
was fascinated because at the at the same time,I was creating all these, like, space animation
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and airplanes moving, you know, which thatbrought me to a cool opportunity to work for
Embraer Executive Jets down in in Melbourne,Florida where, poof, you know, I said, woah.
You know, like, even closer to the dream.
Like, now I'm next to the I'm next to thesethings, you know, like, I get to walk around
and take pictures and fly into them.
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At one time I had opportunity to fly to Hawaiiand like a legacy mind blowing, you know, look
at the cockpit of the pilot.
I I will never forget at one point he said,okay, this is the the at this point we need to
either go back to Oakland or we keep going, youknow.
And I'm like, this is great.
You know?
And he's calculating, and then we decide to goand, but so all these things, you know, just
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blow my mind.
And and then, you know, sure after, I had theopportunity right now at work at Cirrus
Aircraft, you know, which we're known forhaving the parachute.
You know, it's the aircraft with the parachuteif you if you haven't heard about it.
So the it's pretty cool.
You know?
And the the both, you know, the SR and the jethas, like, a system called caps, which pretty
much you pull pull a thing, you know, and awhole part should deploy to and lower your safe
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safety to the ground.
Mhmm.
So with that being said, I work at CirrusAircraft, you know, in, in the media team.
So, we in Cirrus at we have our our internalmedia team, you know, in marketing.
So we have a a green screen studio.
You know, we have cinema camera, drones.
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I'm also part 107 pilot.
You know, that's how the everything yeah.
You know, it's closer.
You know?
It's like, okay.
I'm I'm really close.
So literally yeah.
So, you know, here when I first started the 1stweek, my my my current boss, Anthony, would
then he will say, he flew for the airlines foryears, you know.
So and then he he was doing some videoproduction.
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At the end, you know, he end up at Cirrus.
They they they they pretty much bought him in.
So he will say, man, do you wanna go up, youknow, for a discovery flight?
Have you ever been in a Cirrus or like asmaller plane?
I'm like, nope.
And he said, okay.
Go jump into the left seat which back then Ididn't know it was like the pilot seat.
So whatever, you know?
Like, you know, like, he said, you're a leftseater, man.
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You're you're gonna drive this thing.
I'll I'll I'll run you through.
It'll be fine, you know.
I'm here.
So with that being said, you know, it's a fullpower, air speed is alive, engines looking
green, thousand market air, you know, pullpull.
And I'm like, well, yeah.
Just gently be gentle, you know, you startpulling it.
Man, that thing took off, you know.
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I I still I I I told you before and right now,I still gets a good spot.
I repeat that rotation, you know, we climb up,you know, flew through the small keys because
I'm here in in in Tennessee, Knoxville.
So we flew around the small keys, you know, andhe said, okay.
Let me tell you something.
You see that knob there heading?
We were flying out a pilot after, you know, wewe were in cruise.
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He said, okay.
Turn it left and the airplane bang left.
Turn it right, airplane bang left.
Okay.
Disconnect.
Okay.
Now, you know, pull pull up a little.
Pull down and then you start.
You say, okay, man, under this started theaerodynamics of the airplane.
This is how you then from that day, Adam, youknow, then we we came back.
I I landed, you know, with you know, I Ithought I'm like, okay, okay.
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You landed, you know, like, what, man?
Like, how do I get into how can I fly thisairplane?
Which, you know, he, brought me into this, man.
So, back in the day, we we were working on theon the engine management course, you know, we
because, we do so back to what I do here.
So in the media team, we we create anythingfrom marketing, you know, we do marketing, and
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also training.
You know, our our main bulk, it's training.
So at Siro's, you know, we're all about safety.
You know?
So safety first.
We're trying to bring those margin down so ofpilot error or or or however you wanna call it.
You know?
So or it's yeah.
So our our our goal is to be 0 in the numbers.
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You know?
No accidents, no no casualties, anything.
So with that being said, we we've beendedicated a lot of time to, to training.
Right?
So we we create training materials here from 0to hero.
We call it, you know so a private pilot courseis out there.
And so engine management, you know, likeweather, anything.
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You know?
So how to fly safely and how to be safe,proficient, you know, and trying to keep the
the all our our pilots safe, you know, outthere.
Even if you don't fly a a series or whateveryou fly, you know, at the end, it's all about
safety.
Right?
So, yeah, Adam, that's what I do, you know,work marketing for a cool aviation GA Aviation
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company.
You know, the
Well, I remember we when we talked, before yougot involved in the Cirrus flying club, and
that's how you ended up getting some of yourown ratings done, because I I believe now
you're working on your instrument rating, andyou've already got your PPL done.
So congratulations.
Welcome to the the licensed, certificated pilotclub.
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And now you're working on your instrumentrating and just, continue to progress along
while you're still working at Cirrus.
And what a cool way for you to get involved inin what we as professionals think of as a
second nature thing is as the safety and thesafe operation of any aircraft, whether it's
we're a military person or a professionalaviator out in the civil sector.
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And I think one of the things that's so coolabout some of the organizations that TPN has
has partnered with over the time is the missionand purpose of some of these organizations are
so in lockstep with ours of bringingopportunity to people who don't necessarily
always have it, number 1.
But number 2, there is a little bit more tothat.
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And I think with the LPA, you guys have startedsomething at which you're kind of not
necessarily the new kid on the block anymore,but it's not an organization that I was very
familiar with up until about a year ago, maybe2 years ago now.
And, really, I got to know a lot more about theLPA.
And I wanted to talk to you, a lot more aboutthe mission and the purpose of the LPA and and
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what you guys are doing to inspire Latinopilots, but there's more to it than that.
Like, inspiration is the start.
Right?
And then we have to go much further than that.
And something that I realized in my career, Iwas inspired as a little kid.
I wanted to fly airplanes until I was a littleguy.
And then when I got there, I'm like, okay.
What do I how do I figure this out?
And I kinda just kept throwing, stuff at thewalls and seeing what stuck.
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You guys have a much different platform.
Talk to me a little bit about that, how you cantake that inspiration, foster it into not just
a professional aviator, but all thingsaviation.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So you're right, man.
So, back in 2015, you know, 5 friends in in,yeah, in Jackson in the Jacksonville
University, they were, you know, at the dormsand they were they they were thinking there.
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You know, there's nothing that represents theLatino community, you know, professional
pilots, Latino community.
So that's when a Latino Pilots Associationstarter, you know, the LPA in 2015.
And from day 1, you know, the the idea was toinspire, mentor, and develop anyone dreaming of
aviation.
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You know, like, how how we discussed before,you know, it can be, we want to we want to make
sure, you know, that people out there, theyunderstand the ecosystem.
Right?
You can either from, you know, being in theline fueling fueling aircraft service, you
know, and mechanics, your ATC.
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So there's a huge, spectrum, you know, inaviation that we wanna make sure, you know,
people is aware of, you know, and and knowingthat you can start, you know, how we we say,
you know, you can start in the line and ifyou're going to fly that big airplane taking
off, you can get there, you know.
There's no shortcuts.
I will always make sure, you know, that'sclear.
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There's no shortcuts.
You gotta work hard, to get there but I mean,the we that's what we're trying to do to give
the tools to inspire, mentor, and help help ourmembers develop where they wanna be.
You know, if you wanna be in the, how I say, inthe line, on the ground looking at airplanes
all day or you wanna fly a triple 7, you know,into continental or whatever, you know, that
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that's what we're here for, to help you developin your career and give you the tools, to get
there.
You know?
Yeah.
And I think one of the cool parts about that iswe we've talked offline about, inspiration is
is can be pretty easy, but the mentorship,process, I I wanted to delve into the way LPN
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mentors folks because it's something that wetry to wrap our hands around with TPN and
realize that Matt and I just couldn't couldn'tquite piece it together.
And we saw that these other organizations aredoing such a great job of this already.
Let's just give them the tools to reach out tomore folks who are already in the professional
category, who want to give back and be able tomentor the younger generation.
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So tell me a little bit about that mentorshipprogram that the LPA has.
Sure, Adam.
Yeah.
So, the Aspira.
So mentorship program, it's there, you know,because we we thought we we think that there
there needs to be a an structural, you know,like a more formal way to to mentorship.
You know?
So that's how we we we launched theaspirational mentorship program, which pretty
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much, you know, like an instructor mentorshipprogram again to pair to pair experience
experience, you know, like Latino aviation withsomeone starting.
Let's say, you know, that that how you say, youknow, you don't know what to do.
You know you don't know where to go.
You don't know how to get there legally.
You don't have paperwork or where to study orwhat should I read or listen to or how how do I
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get there?
You know?
So that's why why we launch a a the program.
Right?
To basically pair, you know, someone in thefield with someone starting, you know.
So, yeah, it's it's super cool, you know, it'sout there now.
We announced it a couple well, when you listento this, it will be out for maybe a month or 2
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months.
So you go to our website, very easy.
If you wanna be a mentor, you fill up an app aform and then, the system will, you know, put
you there on hold and then, the the personwanting to to be help or or mentor will sign
another form and then the system will pair you,you know, depending on your what you're looking
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for with the best match, you know, pretty much.
So we're really excited about this.
Super cool, you know, you just have to be amember and then be be willing, you know, to to
connect which, you know, we're we're yeah.
Well, I think yeah.
We're that's something that we are so firmbelievers in is that that real world
connection.
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Online is great, but the real world connectionis where the where the rubber meets the road
and people get things done.
And in programs like that, you talk about thedevelopment piece.
And and when we develop pilots in professionalprograms, we it is it's it's formalized.
It's fire hose effect.
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Get yourself through the program, and you'regonna get more as you as you grow because you
you don't have that experience level.
What I think I could have benefited a lot from,and I know lots of folks will agree with me on
this, I I hope they do, is that we didn'tnecessarily have those development programs for
a lot of us when we were younger.
So it was kind of like I said, you know, youjust kinda throw stuff at the wall and see what
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sticks.
And one of the things that we're trying to doat TPN is go from the aspiring to the retiring
pilot because there's way more out there thanjust flying airplanes.
But one of the things that we have to alwayscome back to is the core premise of becoming a
pilot and being an aviator is developingthrough a career.
And when you're younger, it can be intimidatingto the point of especially in the case of a lot
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of Latino folks out there, they never had anyexposure.
And we were talking about this before, how yougot exposure through just sort of jobs that you
took through Embraer and now at Sears.
And you have this exposure where you're aroundthese airplanes, these cool airplanes, and you
get the opportunity to go fly more often thansomebody who doesn't.
Developing somebody who doesn't necessarilyhave those opportunities or never even thought
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that that was a possibility is something that'sthat's unique.
And to be able to do that is so, is such abenefit not only to the community that you
serve, but the community of aviators as a wholebecause we we increase the talent pool.
The talent pool gets bigger, which meansthere's more better pilots out there to
continue to fly airplanes, and that's betterfor everybody.
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That's better for the the business side of it.
That's better for the personal side of it, thefamily side of it.
I think, I I'm such a I'm such a fan of thatidea of development throughout one's youth and
then into their career as a pilot, whether ornot it's professional or otherwise.
So when you when you talk about thatdevelopment and you foster those opportunities
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for folks to connect and get involved in theaviation community, is it just pilots or is it
for across the board?
Because there are so many other facets ofaviation to get involved with to get people
that initial experience to maybe move on like Ialways thought the pinnacle of the career was
to fly the airplane.
But some people, they don't necessarily want todo that, and there's other aspects of aviation
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that they can get involved in.
Does LPA serve that purpose as well?
It does, Adam.
So that's something we're focusing on, youknow, a lot.
It's to make sure, you know, we support, anyonein the ecosystem.
You know, how you said, if you if your dream isto,
you know, be on the tower, you know,
if you wanna be, you know, like, a a t ccommunications or if you wanna be a pilot or or
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someone working around the airplane or in theairplane or servicing the airplane or or even
in in marketing.
You know how I say it.
Like like, what I do, you know, working withairplanes in any in any aspect, we we do that.
So our our mentorship program, you know, it'sit's designed to get, you know, the mentor with
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the with the mentee, you know, a match.
You know?
So and if we if we don't have a mentor yet,we'll work on it, and we'll we'll we'll talk to
you through the process or we point you intointo into the into the right direction, you
know.
So yeah.
We we that's our goal, man, to support anyonein the in the aviation, community or dreaming
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about aviation.
And and you bring you bring a good point, Adam,about, you know, one barrier that we we notice,
it's economic barrier.
You know?
Because we know aviation can be expensive.
You know?
And you and oh, yeah.
And especially if you don't know where you'regoing.
You know?
If you don't have a mentor and you're, youknow, like like, taking lessons and the
instructor leave you and then you find anotherand you're not flying constantly, you know, you
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know how it is.
I learned that, through my private, you know,like, if you're not consistent, you know, it's
like going back backwards, you know, kind of.
So that's one of the reason we we have thementorship mentorship program and also the
scholarship program, which we're super proud ofit.
You know, last year, we were able to give away1,000,000 and almost $220,000
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Wow.
In scholarships.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so Cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it was amazing.
You know?
I had all to see all these, dreamers, you know,if if you wanna call, you know, these people
with a dream, like, getting a check, you know,and and starting their careers, you know, in in
in aviation, you know.
And this summer, we're gonna start again.
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We're gonna start announcing our newscholarship program for this year.
And usually, you know, at by the by the end,you know, by September, we'll we'll have an
official announcement on our expo, you know,and and I will can't I can't I can't, get
deeper into details later.
But but yeah, man.
You know, like, how I said a mentor, help helphelp break those, economical barriers, you
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know, that that we all know about.
How I say aviation is not cheap, especially ifyou how you say you're throwing money in a
pocket.
You know?
So Yeah.
Hopefully, you know, we can make sure, youknow, you you know where you're going, and we
support you with the, scholarships and thedevelopment of your career through aviation.
It's amazing how little directed focus can goso long, so much further than just, completely
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unvectored thrust.
And and being able to have a target to shootfor and trying to get overhead that target at a
certain time.
I mean, that's a lot of aviation puns I justuse right there, but that's the reality.
I love it.
Yeah.
In in in in anything that I've ever done, if Idon't track the metric and I don't try to have
a at least some sort of minimal target in mind,I'm kinda just shooting from the hip, and it's
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not gonna get there as quickly as it couldbecause let's let's face it too.
We need pilots still.
I mean, I know there's a there's a people areworried about the change in in the face of of
everything going on in, in aviation careerfield right now.
But the reality is is is pilots are stillneeded.
Production's still not high enough to meetdemand in the future.
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And there are opportunities far outside.
I think everybody looks at major airlines orlegacy airlines and says, oh, that's it.
That's that's the only thing that matters.
No.
There's a lot of other opportunities inaviation.
And these are the things that a good mentor canhelp provide.
And I think a mentorship program with a with agroup like the LPA partnered with stuff that,
like, we're doing in TPN because we can helpthose mentors gain access to other ideas in
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aviation that they had no idea that were outthere.
For instance, one of the things that I alwayskinda go back to was and this is something that
I didn't know anything.
I maybe I heard about it, but I didn't know.
I'd always see the guys who do the aerialfirefighting on California.
Right?
Like, we all see the videos and the pictures ofthese these dudes swooping down, dumping a
bunch of flame, killer on the, on the on theforest fires.
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And I thought, man, who are they?
Who are they?
Who are the people that are doing this?
And over time, people would post in the pilotnetwork about the California fire group.
And I thought, man, that is a really cool gig.
Not something I necessarily have any interestin at my age, but I thought, man, if I was a
little younger, if I was a tax guy and I wantedto do just that and not really fly in the, in
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the in the civil side, just flying passengersor boxes, whatever.
I thought that would be such a cool gig.
And then finding out that there's tons ofdifferent opportunities there.
There's helicopter.
There's big airplanes.
There's little airplanes.
There's forward air control people whobasically orbit and are the ones who are
directing all the traffic and pointing up whereto go.
And I thought, if that's up your alley, that'sa career.
That's a life that you will live forever andlove.
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And do that and be happy every day that you getup and go turn a turn a engine and go fly an
airplane.
And when I when I started to think about that,I go, how many other opportunities are out
there that I don't know about?
And if I don't know about them, and this issomething that I've been doing for a while,
maybe a lot of us don't know this stuff.
We wanna open that up.
And I think the way we do that is throughoutreach and talking about it and having
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programs specifically adapted to individualswho don't necessarily have the tools or have
been given the guidance that some of us didn'tget.
And I think it's cool to to partner up withpeople that frankly, I would not have been had
the opportunity to do so without theseorganizations that are out there because I
didn't know that they existed.
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Now I do, and I have this cool chance to get tomeet people who are are don't have the same
background, whether that's flying or personallyor professionally, whatever it is.
And so cool to be able to do that kind ofstuff.
And then it to to go further with outreach, youguys do, like, small community outreach events
and stuff like that, which which can break downsome of those barriers between not just pilots,
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but people in general.
I mean, enough get off, Internet and go talk toeach other.
And you guys do it in a in a in a cool fun way.
Can we talk a little bit about your communityoutreach events and then get into your expo?
Because one of the things about the expo thatI'm mad that I missed about was the food.
But there's so much that goes on at these exposthat I think people have, a myopic approach who
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are looking for a job.
They think, oh, you know, United's gonna bethere.
I need to talk to them.
They don't realize there's other opportunitiesout there for them to get involved in aviation
and maybe side jobs or other things that theycould have interest in that may take them that
step further and get open up differentopportunities, windows, and doors that they
never knew existed.
So I want because, frankly, I wanna I wannasteal your community outreach ideas and do some
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again.
And then I I really wanna come to the expo nextyear.
So, talk to me a little bit about thesecommunity outreach events and how they take
place and what goes on.
Yeah, Adam.
Sure.
So sure.
One one thing, you know, we noticed is, how weknow how we talk about before the power of
networking in person.
You know?
It's something that that for us is superimportant, you know, in aviation and in any
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field pretty much.
You know?
So with that being said, you know, we we launchour our community outreach events, which pretty
much, you know, there it's like pop ups, smallevents, you know, one one little tent, Usually
good food, you know, good, traditional, youknow, like, drinks from the region or, you
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know, just to have fun.
Good music, get get together, network, get toknow each other.
You don't have to be in aviation, you know.
It can be on a school campus or on a farmermarket or anything like that.
You know, it's just about, oh, this is what wedo.
You know, get some stickers, get to know eachother.
Let's talk.
Let let's chat and and see what's out there.
You know?
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So, those are our our rich events, you know,like the the small one.
They they can be small or big, but it's justlike a spontaneous, you know, pop up through
the region, you know, in our regional chapters.
Sure.
Yeah.
Just to because how I say, you know, the powerof of networking in person for it's vital.
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You know, it's vital for us.
So that that's what we do, we do those and andwe try to keep it coming.
So if you have suggestions or or, you know, ifyou're a member or no member, you know, you can
send us an email to info at dinopilots.com andjust suggest, you know, like, oh, what about,
doing something here or there?
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You know, we're always open and how you how yousay, you know, we we the pilot network, we know
we learn from each other.
Right?
So, how you said, you know, a differentexperience, different different, backgrounds.
So it's always cool to get together in thesesmall events.
You know?
It's it's an opportunity to, if you if youdon't wanna wait to our expo or or, you know,
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like, annual expo, you can always, you know, goto to these events.
Also, we we we are, you know, like like, thisyear, we were pressing in in 1 minute aviation,
you know.
So we tried to be pressing in will be, youknow, at your expo.
So we'll we'll try, you know, we'll try to beset all all the all the expos around.
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You know?
Just so look for us.
You know?
Yeah.
So if I if I wanted to, find out more aboutlet's talk about, like, the the little outreach
events and then the expo.
Where do I go?
How do I find out about more of that?
So, yeah, Adam, thanks to it's a good point.
So follow us, you know, a Latino pilot.
You know, you we post weekly, you know, on ouron our social media channel, especially
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Instagram, it's super hot, Facebook, andLinkedIn, you know.
So at Latino pilot, we we will, in advance, wewill, tell you, you know, like, oh, we're gonna
be here this week.
Make sure to stop by and then you can always,you know, send send us a a direct message and
we'll we'll reply with future events.
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You know?
Well, you just got another follower.
I just, I just made sure that my Instagram, wasfollowing Latino pilot association.
Thank you so much.
I thought I thought I was following, but I wasI wasn't.
So time for me to
stay tuned now.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I will.
Well, I I just I thought it'd be a great idea.
I would love to do we used to do hangar fliesfor TPN, and we're trying to bring them back
after TPNX.
And I think it'd be really fun to, crosscommunicate and do a TPN hangar fly, you know,
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with a special guest from the LPA and just meetup.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
We'll we'll be up to
Yeah.
Especially in the Milwaukee area.
Milwaukee, has a dart of, of programs foraviation.
There's just not a lot.
And there are, significant amount of pilotsaround here.
I mean, it's not like, you know, Chicago, NewYork, LA, whatever.
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But there's a lot of people here who flyairplanes, and for us to get on board and be
together and and communicate on what's goingout there in the system.
And then there's so much more, like, we'retalking about.
Like and I think this is one thing I wanted toget on with the expo is, yeah, we all know that
the airlines are gonna be there, and they'redoing their thing.
But what else I mean, there's all these otherthings that that that and folks that come that
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are that are companies and and groups ofindividuals who truly believe in bringing out
the best in the pilot, not only when they'reflying the airplane, but when they're in their
personal life too.
Like, we want to offer the best.
So your expo, is how long is the how long isthe, LPA expo been around now?
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So, this is gonna be the second one, actually.
So our yeah.
A newbie on the block, but I heard such greatthings from last year's expo.
We were invited to come.
Unfortunately, it was over a, a couple of dayswhere I already was, predisposed to something
else.
So was Matt.
We could not make it.
We're working on getting, more reps from TPN tobe able to go do stuff like this, as as kind of
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our, folks that can go out and and show theTPN, mantra of of pay it forward from the
aspiring to the retiring pilot.
And I think when when I see an expo like youguys are doing, it's something that we
definitely wanna get, more involved with, and Ithink people would would love to go because of,
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just the the nature of what you guys are doingthere.
Where was it last year and how big?
I mean, I know, but I'm asking for the peoplethat are out there.
Yeah.
No.
Cool.
Thank you, Adam.
Thank you for for bringing it up because, youknow, the expo for us is it's like our baby.
I will say, and it's like our it's ouropportunity to get together and and share our
experience, you know, with anyone that thatwants to join or can join.
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So, yeah, last year was in Orlando, Orlando,Florida.
It was the first one ever.
I I I had the opportunity to be there, torepresent.
And we had a approximately a 1200 attendees,you know, to get for the event, which, you
know, it was our first one.
So we were learning a lot of, learning and andwe had a great time.
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You know, the cocktail hour, good music, goodfood.
You know, like, at at the end, you know, it'sabout, you know, learning the day, party and
and network at night kind of thing.
You know?
So, yeah, we had a a pretty cool gala party,you know, which was amazing.
We were able to to bring all the scholarship,winners to the stage, you know, and honor them.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
It was super a cool moment, man.
Just to see everybody there, you know, like,with their scholarship in hands and, all the
happy faces, crying, very emotional.
You know?
We have a Claudia Zapata, president, you know,we show a a video of of her, you know, history
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and and career, which it to me, you know, it'sfascinating.
It's always mind blowing, you know, how or oror how her story, you know.
So, yeah.
So it how back to to the expo, it was inOrlando.
We're going back to Orlando this year too forthe second time because, you know, we we we
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find out that it's a pretty cool center point,you know, for everybody to come all around the
US and even around the world who we had a a fewinternational, visitors.
And it's just, you know, an opportunity how Isaid, Adam, to learn, you know, to visit visit
the the big and the small, companies.
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You know?
So, like, how do you say, you know, like,anything American Airlines or United, you know,
a friend to Flexjet, Cirrus Aircraft was therelast year, will be there will be there this
year again.
We have LPA booth.
We're our own booth with with the boardmembers.
We try to to get all together there and allthe, you know, volunteers all over.
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You know?
So a lot of a lot of LPA volunteers, you know,around taking pictures and talking to people
and getting to know each other.
So, you know, this year, it's once againOrlando.
It's gonna be in the Bonnet Creek Resort, whichwe we this year, we we amp it up.
We amp it up.
How do you say?
Amp it up a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We we we wanna, bring a better, bolder and andcooler experience.
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So pretty cool hotel, you know, and with coolrestaurants, golf course, and it's gonna be
fun.
We're we're gonna have the pre cocktail hour,2, which is pretty much, you know, like a
program that, where you can donate, you know,any any every penny counts, you know, and but
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there are like different levels of of of, youknow, which is like flight levels pretty much.
So, I invite you to check it out on our websiteif you haven't.
It's pretty cool.
And, what else can I tell you about?
Yeah.
It's gonna be fun, man.
It's gonna be fun.
That it does it sounds like a blast.
And, what what are the dates of the, of theexpo this year?
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Yeah, Adam.
Thank you.
So, it's gonna be September 12 13 are are theactual, you know, like, expo days.
Hopefully, this year, at least one of us fromTPN can get down there and enjoy.
I really hope.
Yeah.
I really hope you can make a meta the we'llwe'll have the registration available soon.
You know, right now, we we don't have anylinks, but stay tuned because stay tuned and
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follow us.
You will start to see, some tease of of what'scoming.
It's gonna be fun.
I I I know how that goes.
I know how the building of that whole, of of ofputting on a, a conference of that size, goes.
Maybe not the same exact size, but but you getover a 100 people and things start to get
pretty, hairy no matter what you're doing.
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So and and it almost doesn't matter how manyvolunteers and how many how much help you have.
Like, it seems like the more people that areinvolved, the more work that it becomes.
But it's a it's a labor of love.
It's a lot of fun, and it's great to be able tosupport the community that you believe so much
in.
And and I I think it's really cool, Oscar, thatyou're that you're part of this, what the LPA
is doing, and that we've got such a cool andunique relationship between TPN and the LPA.
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So to kinda close-up, I kinda put this outthere.
It's the bold face or the memory item orwhatever people wanna call.
What's the one thing that you want people totake away from, you this podcast, with the LPA,
Sirius, whatever you want.
This is your chance to give us one thing toremember, for today that we should take home
with us.
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Okay, Adam.
You put me in a in a in a spot, but I'll Put
on the spot.
Well, you know what?
I'm gonna give you a couple seconds out whileyou're doing that.
The, the things that we're doing, with LPA arein support of a community that we believe in
how they're growing, what they're doing to growaviation into into areas that necessarily we we
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don't know how to do it.
So we wanna support these platforms because abigger pool of solid pilots helps us all.
And when you when you sit back and you thinkabout it, it is a way more incredibly rewarding
career when you can pay it forward and giveback to communities, inside aside from just
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constantly taking or getting.
Because, I mean, I've gotten the benefit ofbeing a pilot for 21 years, and it's really,
really rewarding to give back to thecommunities around me.
Whether that's in your own company or outsideof your company or the military, go out,
volunteer, give a little bit of extra time.
If you don't have the money, give a littlemoney if you don't have the time.
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Just put a little something forward, and you'llsee, you'll get the return will come back
tenfold or more.
So now that I gave Oscar a chance to thinkabout what he was gonna say, I'll put the put
the onus back in Oscar.
It's all up to you.
Adam.
So, yeah, I will you know, my my advice or orwhatever I I would like you to, go with after
you listen to our conversation here.
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You know, it will be never, you know, neverdoubt, you know, if if you go with your feeling
kind of, you know, if you if you if you dreamabout it, you know, like, I learned, you know,
especially through the years and and, you know,coming to this concert and everything that if
you work hard, you know, if you don't cut anycorners, you aim how you say you aim for those
(38:47):
numbers, you you land on those numbers, youknow, type of things.
So you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
So, you know, never doubt.
I I know sometimes especially, you know, my mymessage will be to anyone listening, you know,
like, at one point I remember starting, thisbeautiful career, you know, like, start flying.
I I doubt a lot about myself and I still do,you know, to be honest with you.
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There there there are days, you know, doing IFRstuff that I'm like, like, god, you know, like
I can't it's not I'm not feeling it like thislike I cannot do this, you know, I cannot this
is too much overwhelming, you know.
And then, you know, I come back land and andrefresh, reset, think about it and I'm like,
you know what?
I can't do this, you know.
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You know, so my my message because you you aredoubting about yourself or you're thinking like
this is not for me.
I'm an imposter or whatever you wanna call it.
You know, rough.
You know, go out, do some patterns, come back,and you'll see you can do this.
So, you know, I I I will never forget one timewhen I was working on my private, you know, I
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was doing the the night, you know, the nightlandings, You know?
And and I do my first one and, you know, weland here in Tyson, long 9,000 foot, you know,
runway.
We land the the s r twenty and then it wasrough.
You know?
Like, a gusty wind or something in airline.
And I told my instructor, he said, okay, fullpower, you know, flat 50 go.
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And I'm like, you know, like, I I froze kindof.
And he say, okay, tower, we need to, like, canyou give me a meter or something?
And and my instructor will say, because he kindof knew, you know, that I get I used to get the
when I get these moments where I doubt myselfand I freeze, you know?
It's like that that that syndrome.
So he said, man, in mind, I'm your son here.
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What are you gonna do?
You know?
You're in this wrong way.
I'm your son.
Man, that clicks back to me reset and I'm like,I got this, man.
Come on.
You know what?
I got you know, I I did like 5 night landers.
I sweet, man.
Like like butter.
You know?
So greasy.
Yeah, man.
So my and how I say, you know, I don't comefrom aviation, Adam.
You know, I have a little hours compared to alot of our listeners.
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Maybe, you know, like, roughly, you know, like,maybe, like, 200 or 220.
I don't know.
But by right now, but, yeah, my message, youknow, like, it's beautiful.
You know, aviation is it it's a a beautifulecho see sensation, you know.
And it's not only piloting.
How I say, you know, if you wanna be aroundairplanes, man, you can be anything, you know,
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mechanic on the tower, you know, calling theairplanes or designing airplanes or doing
videos for training people how to be safe inairplanes.
That's what I'm currently doing.
I I will never mind that was a thing, you know,like so, you know, yeah, just go for it.
Go for it.
You know, there's so there there are resourcesout there.
That's what TPN do does.
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That's what we do.
You know, you know, we want to mentor.
We wanna inspire you.
We want to help you get wherever you wanna be,wherever you want to get.
You know?
What whatever that that destiny is.
You know?
Well, I think going forward is a great way to,wrap it up because I think that's what we
should all be doing.
And I am I cannot, agree with you more becauseI think whether it's flying airplanes, getting
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an aviation somehow, or just life in general,just go for it.
Just go for it.
Go for it.
Go for it, man.
So if people wanna reach you or reach out to,the LPA, what's the best way for them to do
that?
Yeah.
So so first of all, thank you all for listenlistening to our to my story, and thank you for
having us.
Adam representing here.
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Yeah.
LPA.
Yeah.
So I you know, at Latino pilot, we'reeverywhere, you know, we we are trying to get a
content or, you know, content out there,weekly.
So stay tuned at Latino pilot and Yeah.
You know, Latino pilot might I I will give youmy personal phone number, 407-729-2182.
(42:49):
Look at that.
Yeah.
Feel free.
That Yeah.
Boy It's
a dedicated mentor right there.
So
Yeah.
My friend.
So, yeah, if you are out there listening, youknow, feel free to reach out to our via social
media, my phone number or infoatlatinopilot.com.
Send you know, shoot us a message.
Anything you have questions about, mentorship,scholarships, how to become a member, pop up
(43:15):
events, you know, anything, man.
We're here to help and to inspire.
So
Awesome.
Awesome.
Well, folks, if you if you have questions,reach out to Oscar and the LPA.
If you got questions for Matt or I, it's hey,guys, at thepilotnetwork.com.
Go to the website, pilotnetwork.com or any ofthe socials.
You know where we're at.
You can reach us whenever you want to.
I wanna thank Oscar.
I wanna thank the LPA.
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They've been really supportive, and we expectthis relationship to grow beautifully and most
largely as we continue forth in this wonderfulaviation journey.
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Network Logan.
It's Adam.
And today, I have a guest that is not theaverage guest we normally have on the TPN
podcast.
Oscar, he is a member of the Latino PilotAssociation.
He's got a really cool aviation job, somethingthat's a little different than what we normally
have because Oscar is a lower time pilot, andhe has just started his aviation journey a
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couple years back.
And he's not where a lot of the experiencedfolks who are transitioning out of the military
looking for a part 121 gig or that regionalline check airman who's ready to move on to his
major her major of choice for the rest of theircareer.
Oscar is in different world.
So, Oscar, I wanted to thank you for joining usnumber 1.
And number 2, what are you doing and who areyou doing it for?
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Because it's pretty cool.
Hey, Adam.
Thank you, man.
It's an honor to be here at your podcast, andthank you to the listeners that are listening.
So how you said, you know, it's kind of, youknow, like a weird story because, you know, as
a kid, I always dream to you know, with space,with being an astronaut, you know, like, I'm
(02:22):
sure a lot of listeners, do or did.
Yeah.
So and I will I I was always, you know, one dayI'm gonna be up there.
You know, I remember the International SpaceStation where it came out and it was just
fascinating, you know, to I I was dreaming tolook at, you know, see everything from above,
you know, from some from the distance.
So yeah.
So, you know, it was always a dream but alwayshad this weird, you know, dogma or however you
(02:47):
wanna call it of the illusion of that that yougotta be perfect.
Right?
To to go to space, to to go to fly an airplane,you have to, you know, be perfect vision, know
your mathematics, you know, be able tocalculate on the spot, you know, with pencil
and rulers and like a compass, you know.
So Charlie Charlie through my childhood, youknow, I'm like, nope.
(03:08):
Like, I'm I'm not I cannot, you know, do this.
I need a calculator, you know, to
so
I'm like, okay.
Yeah.
So I put my dream on a side and I'm I decideto, you know, move to the states where
obviously, you know, I moved to a state fromVenezuela in 2,005 where obviously, you know, I
saw more exposure.
(03:28):
Right?
Like, a bigger air yeah.
Bigger airplanes.
You know, like, small, big, all sizes.
You know?
I I went to NASA and saw, you know, the wholespace platform and the museum and the old, you
know, the all the the old stuff and I'm like,the picture.
I'm like, well, you know, like I mean, we wentto space, you know, the United States went to
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space, you know, like, Apollo 13, Apollo 11,everything.
So you're like, wow.
You know?
At least I'm closer, you know, to the dream.
So Yeah.
Yeah.
Then, you know, I decide to when I I didengineering drafting, you know, because I
thought I always thought it was kind of cool todraw, you know, all the mechanics and the cool
parts.
I I will never forget.
(04:10):
One of my drafting teachers, was into RCs andeverything.
So, he used to draw, you know, in class, youknow, like doodle doodling.
I think you call it, you know, like littleairplanes and and I will say, oh, that's cool.
And I I I started, you know, like, making fakemeasurements and stuff.
You know?
You're just like, designing these littlethings.
(04:32):
You know?
So, you know, how I say always dreaming aboutit, but then, you know, I got into in more into
the creative art.
So I I went for to our school down in Florida.
I learned, you know, all the detail arts andemotion graphics and video production, which,
was fascinated because at the at the same time,I was creating all these, like, space animation
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and airplanes moving, you know, which thatbrought me to a cool opportunity to work for
Embraer Executive Jets down in in Melbourne,Florida where, poof, you know, I said, woah.
You know, like, even closer to the dream.
Like, now I'm next to the I'm next to thesethings, you know, like, I get to walk around
and take pictures and fly into them.
(05:19):
At one time I had opportunity to fly to Hawaiiand like a legacy mind blowing, you know, look
at the cockpit of the pilot.
I I will never forget at one point he said,okay, this is the the at this point we need to
either go back to Oakland or we keep going, youknow.
And I'm like, this is great.
You know?
And he's calculating, and then we decide to goand, but so all these things, you know, just
(05:41):
blow my mind.
And and then, you know, sure after, I had theopportunity right now at work at Cirrus
Aircraft, you know, which we're known forhaving the parachute.
You know, it's the aircraft with the parachuteif you if you haven't heard about it.
So the it's pretty cool.
You know?
And the the both, you know, the SR and the jethas, like, a system called caps, which pretty
much you pull pull a thing, you know, and awhole part should deploy to and lower your safe
(06:07):
safety to the ground.
Mhmm.
So with that being said, I work at CirrusAircraft, you know, in, in the media team.
So, we in Cirrus at we have our our internalmedia team, you know, in marketing.
So we have a a green screen studio.
You know, we have cinema camera, drones.
(06:28):
I'm also part 107 pilot.
You know, that's how the everything yeah.
You know, it's closer.
You know?
It's like, okay.
I'm I'm really close.
So literally yeah.
So, you know, here when I first started the 1stweek, my my my current boss, Anthony, would
then he will say, he flew for the airlines foryears, you know.
So and then he he was doing some videoproduction.
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At the end, you know, he end up at Cirrus.
They they they they pretty much bought him in.
So he will say, man, do you wanna go up, youknow, for a discovery flight?
Have you ever been in a Cirrus or like asmaller plane?
I'm like, nope.
And he said, okay.
Go jump into the left seat which back then Ididn't know it was like the pilot seat.
So whatever, you know?
Like, you know, like, he said, you're a leftseater, man.
(07:10):
You're you're gonna drive this thing.
I'll I'll I'll run you through.
It'll be fine, you know.
I'm here.
So with that being said, you know, it's a fullpower, air speed is alive, engines looking
green, thousand market air, you know, pullpull.
And I'm like, well, yeah.
Just gently be gentle, you know, you startpulling it.
Man, that thing took off, you know.
(07:31):
I I still I I I told you before and right now,I still gets a good spot.
I repeat that rotation, you know, we climb up,you know, flew through the small keys because
I'm here in in in Tennessee, Knoxville.
So we flew around the small keys, you know, andhe said, okay.
Let me tell you something.
You see that knob there heading?
We were flying out a pilot after, you know, wewe were in cruise.
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He said, okay.
Turn it left and the airplane bang left.
Turn it right, airplane bang left.
Okay.
Disconnect.
Okay.
Now, you know, pull pull up a little.
Pull down and then you start.
You say, okay, man, under this started theaerodynamics of the airplane.
This is how you then from that day, Adam, youknow, then we we came back.
I I landed, you know, with you know, I Ithought I'm like, okay, okay.
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You landed, you know, like, what, man?
Like, how do I get into how can I fly thisairplane?
Which, you know, he, brought me into this, man.
So, back in the day, we we were working on theon the engine management course, you know, we
because, we do so back to what I do here.
So in the media team, we we create anythingfrom marketing, you know, we do marketing, and
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also training.
You know, our our main bulk, it's training.
So at Siro's, you know, we're all about safety.
You know?
So safety first.
We're trying to bring those margin down so ofpilot error or or or however you wanna call it.
You know?
So or it's yeah.
So our our our goal is to be 0 in the numbers.
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You know?
No accidents, no no casualties, anything.
So with that being said, we we've beendedicated a lot of time to, to training.
Right?
So we we create training materials here from 0to hero.
We call it, you know so a private pilot courseis out there.
And so engine management, you know, likeweather, anything.
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You know?
So how to fly safely and how to be safe,proficient, you know, and trying to keep the
the all our our pilots safe, you know, outthere.
Even if you don't fly a a series or whateveryou fly, you know, at the end, it's all about
safety.
Right?
So, yeah, Adam, that's what I do, you know,work marketing for a cool aviation GA Aviation
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company.
You know, the
Well, I remember we when we talked, before yougot involved in the Cirrus flying club, and
that's how you ended up getting some of yourown ratings done, because I I believe now
you're working on your instrument rating, andyou've already got your PPL done.
So congratulations.
Welcome to the the licensed, certificated pilotclub.
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And now you're working on your instrumentrating and just, continue to progress along
while you're still working at Cirrus.
And what a cool way for you to get involved inin what we as professionals think of as a
second nature thing is as the safety and thesafe operation of any aircraft, whether it's
we're a military person or a professionalaviator out in the civil sector.
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And I think one of the things that's so coolabout some of the organizations that TPN has
has partnered with over the time is the missionand purpose of some of these organizations are
so in lockstep with ours of bringingopportunity to people who don't necessarily
always have it, number 1.
But number 2, there is a little bit more tothat.
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And I think with the LPA, you guys have startedsomething at which you're kind of not
necessarily the new kid on the block anymore,but it's not an organization that I was very
familiar with up until about a year ago, maybe2 years ago now.
And, really, I got to know a lot more about theLPA.
And I wanted to talk to you, a lot more aboutthe mission and the purpose of the LPA and and
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what you guys are doing to inspire Latinopilots, but there's more to it than that.
Like, inspiration is the start.
Right?
And then we have to go much further than that.
And something that I realized in my career, Iwas inspired as a little kid.
I wanted to fly airplanes until I was a littleguy.
And then when I got there, I'm like, okay.
What do I how do I figure this out?
And I kinda just kept throwing, stuff at thewalls and seeing what stuck.
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You guys have a much different platform.
Talk to me a little bit about that, how you cantake that inspiration, foster it into not just
a professional aviator, but all thingsaviation.
Yeah.
Thank you.
So you're right, man.
So, back in 2015, you know, 5 friends in in,yeah, in Jackson in the Jacksonville
University, they were, you know, at the dormsand they were they they were thinking there.
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You know, there's nothing that represents theLatino community, you know, professional
pilots, Latino community.
So that's when a Latino Pilots Associationstarter, you know, the LPA in 2015.
And from day 1, you know, the the idea was toinspire, mentor, and develop anyone dreaming of
aviation.
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You know, like, how how we discussed before,you know, it can be, we want to we want to make
sure, you know, that people out there, theyunderstand the ecosystem.
Right?
You can either from, you know, being in theline fueling fueling aircraft service, you
know, and mechanics, your ATC.
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So there's a huge, spectrum, you know, inaviation that we wanna make sure, you know,
people is aware of, you know, and and knowingthat you can start, you know, how we we say,
you know, you can start in the line and ifyou're going to fly that big airplane taking
off, you can get there, you know.
There's no shortcuts.
I will always make sure, you know, that'sclear.
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There's no shortcuts.
You gotta work hard, to get there but I mean,the we that's what we're trying to do to give
the tools to inspire, mentor, and help help ourmembers develop where they wanna be.
You know, if you wanna be in the, how I say, inthe line, on the ground looking at airplanes
all day or you wanna fly a triple 7, you know,into continental or whatever, you know, that
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that's what we're here for, to help you developin your career and give you the tools, to get
there.
You know?
Yeah.
And I think one of the cool parts about that iswe we've talked offline about, inspiration is
is can be pretty easy, but the mentorship,process, I I wanted to delve into the way LPN
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mentors folks because it's something that wetry to wrap our hands around with TPN and
realize that Matt and I just couldn't couldn'tquite piece it together.
And we saw that these other organizations aredoing such a great job of this already.
Let's just give them the tools to reach out tomore folks who are already in the professional
category, who want to give back and be able tomentor the younger generation.
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So tell me a little bit about that mentorshipprogram that the LPA has.
Sure, Adam.
Yeah.
So, the Aspira.
So mentorship program, it's there, you know,because we we thought we we think that there
there needs to be a an structural, you know,like a more formal way to to mentorship.
You know?
So that's how we we we launched theaspirational mentorship program, which pretty
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much, you know, like an instructor mentorshipprogram again to pair to pair experience
experience, you know, like Latino aviation withsomeone starting.
Let's say, you know, that that how you say, youknow, you don't know what to do.
You know you don't know where to go.
You don't know how to get there legally.
You don't have paperwork or where to study orwhat should I read or listen to or how how do I
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get there?
You know?
So that's why why we launch a a the program.
Right?
To basically pair, you know, someone in thefield with someone starting, you know.
So, yeah, it's it's super cool, you know, it'sout there now.
We announced it a couple well, when you listento this, it will be out for maybe a month or 2
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months.
So you go to our website, very easy.
If you wanna be a mentor, you fill up an app aform and then, the system will, you know, put
you there on hold and then, the the personwanting to to be help or or mentor will sign
another form and then the system will pair you,you know, depending on your what you're looking
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for with the best match, you know, pretty much.
So we're really excited about this.
Super cool, you know, you just have to be amember and then be be willing, you know, to to
connect which, you know, we're we're yeah.
Well, I think yeah.
We're that's something that we are so firmbelievers in is that that real world
connection.
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Online is great, but the real world connectionis where the where the rubber meets the road
and people get things done.
And in programs like that, you talk about thedevelopment piece.
And and when we develop pilots in professionalprograms, we it is it's it's formalized.
It's fire hose effect.
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Get yourself through the program, and you'regonna get more as you as you grow because you
you don't have that experience level.
What I think I could have benefited a lot from,and I know lots of folks will agree with me on
this, I I hope they do, is that we didn'tnecessarily have those development programs for
a lot of us when we were younger.
So it was kind of like I said, you know, youjust kinda throw stuff at the wall and see what
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sticks.
And one of the things that we're trying to doat TPN is go from the aspiring to the retiring
pilot because there's way more out there thanjust flying airplanes.
But one of the things that we have to alwayscome back to is the core premise of becoming a
pilot and being an aviator is developingthrough a career.
And when you're younger, it can be intimidatingto the point of especially in the case of a lot
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of Latino folks out there, they never had anyexposure.
And we were talking about this before, how yougot exposure through just sort of jobs that you
took through Embraer and now at Sears.
And you have this exposure where you're aroundthese airplanes, these cool airplanes, and you
get the opportunity to go fly more often thansomebody who doesn't.
Developing somebody who doesn't necessarilyhave those opportunities or never even thought
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that that was a possibility is something that'sthat's unique.
And to be able to do that is so, is such abenefit not only to the community that you
serve, but the community of aviators as a wholebecause we we increase the talent pool.
The talent pool gets bigger, which meansthere's more better pilots out there to
continue to fly airplanes, and that's betterfor everybody.
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That's better for the the business side of it.
That's better for the personal side of it, thefamily side of it.
I think, I I'm such a I'm such a fan of thatidea of development throughout one's youth and
then into their career as a pilot, whether ornot it's professional or otherwise.
So when you when you talk about thatdevelopment and you foster those opportunities
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for folks to connect and get involved in theaviation community, is it just pilots or is it
for across the board?
Because there are so many other facets ofaviation to get involved with to get people
that initial experience to maybe move on like Ialways thought the pinnacle of the career was
to fly the airplane.
But some people, they don't necessarily want todo that, and there's other aspects of aviation
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that they can get involved in.
Does LPA serve that purpose as well?
It does, Adam.
So that's something we're focusing on, youknow, a lot.
It's to make sure, you know, we support, anyonein the ecosystem.
You know, how you said, if you if your dream isto,
you know, be on the tower, you know,
if you wanna be, you know, like, a a t ccommunications or if you wanna be a pilot or or
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someone working around the airplane or in theairplane or servicing the airplane or or even
in in marketing.
You know how I say it.
Like like, what I do, you know, working withairplanes in any in any aspect, we we do that.
So our our mentorship program, you know, it'sit's designed to get, you know, the mentor with
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the with the mentee, you know, a match.
You know?
So and if we if we don't have a mentor yet,we'll work on it, and we'll we'll we'll talk to
you through the process or we point you intointo into the into the right direction, you
know.
So yeah.
We we that's our goal, man, to support anyonein the in the aviation, community or dreaming
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about aviation.
And and you bring you bring a good point, Adam,about, you know, one barrier that we we notice,
it's economic barrier.
You know?
Because we know aviation can be expensive.
You know?
And you and oh, yeah.
And especially if you don't know where you'regoing.
You know?
If you don't have a mentor and you're, youknow, like like, taking lessons and the
instructor leave you and then you find anotherand you're not flying constantly, you know, you
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know how it is.
I learned that, through my private, you know,like, if you're not consistent, you know, it's
like going back backwards, you know, kind of.
So that's one of the reason we we have thementorship mentorship program and also the
scholarship program, which we're super proud ofit.
You know, last year, we were able to give away1,000,000 and almost $220,000
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Wow.
In scholarships.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so Cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it was amazing.
You know?
I had all to see all these, dreamers, you know,if if you wanna call, you know, these people
with a dream, like, getting a check, you know,and and starting their careers, you know, in in
in aviation, you know.
And this summer, we're gonna start again.
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We're gonna start announcing our newscholarship program for this year.
And usually, you know, at by the by the end,you know, by September, we'll we'll have an
official announcement on our expo, you know,and and I will can't I can't I can't, get
deeper into details later.
But but yeah, man.
You know, like, how I said a mentor, help helphelp break those, economical barriers, you
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know, that that we all know about.
How I say aviation is not cheap, especially ifyou how you say you're throwing money in a
pocket.
You know?
So Yeah.
Hopefully, you know, we can make sure, youknow, you you know where you're going, and we
support you with the, scholarships and thedevelopment of your career through aviation.
It's amazing how little directed focus can goso long, so much further than just, completely
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unvectored thrust.
And and being able to have a target to shootfor and trying to get overhead that target at a
certain time.
I mean, that's a lot of aviation puns I justuse right there, but that's the reality.
I love it.
Yeah.
In in in in anything that I've ever done, if Idon't track the metric and I don't try to have
a at least some sort of minimal target in mind,I'm kinda just shooting from the hip, and it's
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not gonna get there as quickly as it couldbecause let's let's face it too.
We need pilots still.
I mean, I know there's a there's a people areworried about the change in in the face of of
everything going on in, in aviation careerfield right now.
But the reality is is is pilots are stillneeded.
Production's still not high enough to meetdemand in the future.
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And there are opportunities far outside.
I think everybody looks at major airlines orlegacy airlines and says, oh, that's it.
That's that's the only thing that matters.
No.
There's a lot of other opportunities inaviation.
And these are the things that a good mentor canhelp provide.
And I think a mentorship program with a with agroup like the LPA partnered with stuff that,
like, we're doing in TPN because we can helpthose mentors gain access to other ideas in
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aviation that they had no idea that were outthere.
For instance, one of the things that I alwayskinda go back to was and this is something that
I didn't know anything.
I maybe I heard about it, but I didn't know.
I'd always see the guys who do the aerialfirefighting on California.
Right?
Like, we all see the videos and the pictures ofthese these dudes swooping down, dumping a
bunch of flame, killer on the, on the on theforest fires.
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And I thought, man, who are they?
Who are they?
Who are the people that are doing this?
And over time, people would post in the pilotnetwork about the California fire group.
And I thought, man, that is a really cool gig.
Not something I necessarily have any interestin at my age, but I thought, man, if I was a
little younger, if I was a tax guy and I wantedto do just that and not really fly in the, in
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the in the civil side, just flying passengersor boxes, whatever.
I thought that would be such a cool gig.
And then finding out that there's tons ofdifferent opportunities there.
There's helicopter.
There's big airplanes.
There's little airplanes.
There's forward air control people whobasically orbit and are the ones who are
directing all the traffic and pointing up whereto go.
And I thought, if that's up your alley, that'sa career.
That's a life that you will live forever andlove.
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And do that and be happy every day that you getup and go turn a turn a engine and go fly an
airplane.
And when I when I started to think about that,I go, how many other opportunities are out
there that I don't know about?
And if I don't know about them, and this issomething that I've been doing for a while,
maybe a lot of us don't know this stuff.
We wanna open that up.
And I think the way we do that is throughoutreach and talking about it and having
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programs specifically adapted to individualswho don't necessarily have the tools or have
been given the guidance that some of us didn'tget.
And I think it's cool to to partner up withpeople that frankly, I would not have been had
the opportunity to do so without theseorganizations that are out there because I
didn't know that they existed.
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Now I do, and I have this cool chance to get tomeet people who are are don't have the same
background, whether that's flying or personallyor professionally, whatever it is.
And so cool to be able to do that kind ofstuff.
And then it to to go further with outreach, youguys do, like, small community outreach events
and stuff like that, which which can break downsome of those barriers between not just pilots,
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but people in general.
I mean, enough get off, Internet and go talk toeach other.
And you guys do it in a in a in a cool fun way.
Can we talk a little bit about your communityoutreach events and then get into your expo?
Because one of the things about the expo thatI'm mad that I missed about was the food.
But there's so much that goes on at these exposthat I think people have, a myopic approach who
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are looking for a job.
They think, oh, you know, United's gonna bethere.
I need to talk to them.
They don't realize there's other opportunitiesout there for them to get involved in aviation
and maybe side jobs or other things that theycould have interest in that may take them that
step further and get open up differentopportunities, windows, and doors that they
never knew existed.
So I want because, frankly, I wanna I wannasteal your community outreach ideas and do some
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again.
And then I I really wanna come to the expo nextyear.
So, talk to me a little bit about thesecommunity outreach events and how they take
place and what goes on.
Yeah, Adam.
Sure.
So sure.
One one thing, you know, we noticed is, how weknow how we talk about before the power of
networking in person.
You know?
It's something that that for us is superimportant, you know, in aviation and in any
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field pretty much.
You know?
So with that being said, you know, we we launchour our community outreach events, which pretty
much, you know, there it's like pop ups, smallevents, you know, one one little tent, Usually
good food, you know, good, traditional, youknow, like, drinks from the region or, you
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know, just to have fun.
Good music, get get together, network, get toknow each other.
You don't have to be in aviation, you know.
It can be on a school campus or on a farmermarket or anything like that.
You know, it's just about, oh, this is what wedo.
You know, get some stickers, get to know eachother.
Let's talk.
Let let's chat and and see what's out there.
You know?
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So, those are our our rich events, you know,like the the small one.
They they can be small or big, but it's justlike a spontaneous, you know, pop up through
the region, you know, in our regional chapters.
Sure.
Yeah.
Just to because how I say, you know, the powerof of networking in person for it's vital.
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You know, it's vital for us.
So that that's what we do, we do those and andwe try to keep it coming.
So if you have suggestions or or, you know, ifyou're a member or no member, you know, you can
send us an email to info at dinopilots.com andjust suggest, you know, like, oh, what about,
doing something here or there?
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You know, we're always open and how you how yousay, you know, we we the pilot network, we know
we learn from each other.
Right?
So, how you said, you know, a differentexperience, different different, backgrounds.
So it's always cool to get together in thesesmall events.
You know?
It's it's an opportunity to, if you if youdon't wanna wait to our expo or or, you know,
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like, annual expo, you can always, you know, goto to these events.
Also, we we we are, you know, like like, thisyear, we were pressing in in 1 minute aviation,
you know.
So we tried to be pressing in will be, youknow, at your expo.
So we'll we'll try, you know, we'll try to beset all all the all the expos around.
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You know?
Just so look for us.
You know?
Yeah.
So if I if I wanted to, find out more aboutlet's talk about, like, the the little outreach
events and then the expo.
Where do I go?
How do I find out about more of that?
So, yeah, Adam, thanks to it's a good point.
So follow us, you know, a Latino pilot.
You know, you we post weekly, you know, on ouron our social media channel, especially
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Instagram, it's super hot, Facebook, andLinkedIn, you know.
So at Latino pilot, we we will, in advance, wewill, tell you, you know, like, oh, we're gonna
be here this week.
Make sure to stop by and then you can always,you know, send send us a a direct message and
we'll we'll reply with future events.
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You know?
Well, you just got another follower.
I just, I just made sure that my Instagram, wasfollowing Latino pilot association.
Thank you so much.
I thought I thought I was following, but I wasI wasn't.
So time for me to
stay tuned now.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I will.
Well, I I just I thought it'd be a great idea.
I would love to do we used to do hangar fliesfor TPN, and we're trying to bring them back
after TPNX.
And I think it'd be really fun to, crosscommunicate and do a TPN hangar fly, you know,
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with a special guest from the LPA and just meetup.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
We'll we'll be up to
Yeah.
Especially in the Milwaukee area.
Milwaukee, has a dart of, of programs foraviation.
There's just not a lot.
And there are, significant amount of pilotsaround here.
I mean, it's not like, you know, Chicago, NewYork, LA, whatever.
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But there's a lot of people here who flyairplanes, and for us to get on board and be
together and and communicate on what's goingout there in the system.
And then there's so much more, like, we'retalking about.
Like and I think this is one thing I wanted toget on with the expo is, yeah, we all know that
the airlines are gonna be there, and they'redoing their thing.
But what else I mean, there's all these otherthings that that that and folks that come that
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are that are companies and and groups ofindividuals who truly believe in bringing out
the best in the pilot, not only when they'reflying the airplane, but when they're in their
personal life too.
Like, we want to offer the best.
So your expo, is how long is the how long isthe, LPA expo been around now?
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So, this is gonna be the second one, actually.
So our yeah.
A newbie on the block, but I heard such greatthings from last year's expo.
We were invited to come.
Unfortunately, it was over a, a couple of dayswhere I already was, predisposed to something
else.
So was Matt.
We could not make it.
We're working on getting, more reps from TPN tobe able to go do stuff like this, as as kind of
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our, folks that can go out and and show theTPN, mantra of of pay it forward from the
aspiring to the retiring pilot.
And I think when when I see an expo like youguys are doing, it's something that we
definitely wanna get, more involved with, and Ithink people would would love to go because of,
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just the the nature of what you guys are doingthere.
Where was it last year and how big?
I mean, I know, but I'm asking for the peoplethat are out there.
Yeah.
No.
Cool.
Thank you, Adam.
Thank you for for bringing it up because, youknow, the expo for us is it's like our baby.
I will say, and it's like our it's ouropportunity to get together and and share our
experience, you know, with anyone that thatwants to join or can join.
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So, yeah, last year was in Orlando, Orlando,Florida.
It was the first one ever.
I I I had the opportunity to be there, torepresent.
And we had a approximately a 1200 attendees,you know, to get for the event, which, you
know, it was our first one.
So we were learning a lot of, learning and andwe had a great time.
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You know, the cocktail hour, good music, goodfood.
You know, like, at at the end, you know, it'sabout, you know, learning the day, party and
and network at night kind of thing.
You know?
So, yeah, we had a a pretty cool gala party,you know, which was amazing.
We were able to to bring all the scholarship,winners to the stage, you know, and honor them.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
It was super a cool moment, man.
Just to see everybody there, you know, like,with their scholarship in hands and, all the
happy faces, crying, very emotional.
You know?
We have a Claudia Zapata, president, you know,we show a a video of of her, you know, history
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and and career, which it to me, you know, it'sfascinating.
It's always mind blowing, you know, how or oror how her story, you know.
So, yeah.
So it how back to to the expo, it was inOrlando.
We're going back to Orlando this year too forthe second time because, you know, we we we
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find out that it's a pretty cool center point,you know, for everybody to come all around the
US and even around the world who we had a a fewinternational, visitors.
And it's just, you know, an opportunity how Isaid, Adam, to learn, you know, to visit visit
the the big and the small, companies.
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You know?
So, like, how do you say, you know, like,anything American Airlines or United, you know,
a friend to Flexjet, Cirrus Aircraft was therelast year, will be there will be there this
year again.
We have LPA booth.
We're our own booth with with the boardmembers.
We try to to get all together there and allthe, you know, volunteers all over.
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You know?
So a lot of a lot of LPA volunteers, you know,around taking pictures and talking to people
and getting to know each other.
So, you know, this year, it's once againOrlando.
It's gonna be in the Bonnet Creek Resort, whichwe we this year, we we amp it up.
We amp it up.
How do you say?
Amp it up a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We we we wanna, bring a better, bolder and andcooler experience.
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So pretty cool hotel, you know, and with coolrestaurants, golf course, and it's gonna be
fun.
We're we're gonna have the pre cocktail hour,2, which is pretty much, you know, like a
program that, where you can donate, you know,any any every penny counts, you know, and but
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there are like different levels of of of, youknow, which is like flight levels pretty much.
So, I invite you to check it out on our websiteif you haven't.
It's pretty cool.
And, what else can I tell you about?
Yeah.
It's gonna be fun, man.
It's gonna be fun.
That it does it sounds like a blast.
And, what what are the dates of the, of theexpo this year?
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Yeah, Adam.
Thank you.
So, it's gonna be September 12 13 are are theactual, you know, like, expo days.
Hopefully, this year, at least one of us fromTPN can get down there and enjoy.
I really hope.
Yeah.
I really hope you can make a meta the we'llwe'll have the registration available soon.
You know, right now, we we don't have anylinks, but stay tuned because stay tuned and
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follow us.
You will start to see, some tease of of what'scoming.
It's gonna be fun.
I I I know how that goes.
I know how the building of that whole, of of ofputting on a, a conference of that size, goes.
Maybe not the same exact size, but but you getover a 100 people and things start to get
pretty, hairy no matter what you're doing.
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So and and it almost doesn't matter how manyvolunteers and how many how much help you have.
Like, it seems like the more people that areinvolved, the more work that it becomes.
But it's a it's a labor of love.
It's a lot of fun, and it's great to be able tosupport the community that you believe so much
in.
And and I I think it's really cool, Oscar, thatyou're that you're part of this, what the LPA
is doing, and that we've got such a cool andunique relationship between TPN and the LPA.
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So to kinda close-up, I kinda put this outthere.
It's the bold face or the memory item orwhatever people wanna call.
What's the one thing that you want people totake away from, you this podcast, with the LPA,
Sirius, whatever you want.
This is your chance to give us one thing toremember, for today that we should take home
with us.
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Okay, Adam.
You put me in a in a in a spot, but I'll Put
on the spot.
Well, you know what?
I'm gonna give you a couple seconds out whileyou're doing that.
The, the things that we're doing, with LPA arein support of a community that we believe in
how they're growing, what they're doing to growaviation into into areas that necessarily we we
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don't know how to do it.
So we wanna support these platforms because abigger pool of solid pilots helps us all.
And when you when you sit back and you thinkabout it, it is a way more incredibly rewarding
career when you can pay it forward and giveback to communities, inside aside from just
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constantly taking or getting.
Because, I mean, I've gotten the benefit ofbeing a pilot for 21 years, and it's really,
really rewarding to give back to thecommunities around me.
Whether that's in your own company or outsideof your company or the military, go out,
volunteer, give a little bit of extra time.
If you don't have the money, give a littlemoney if you don't have the time.
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Just put a little something forward, and you'llsee, you'll get the return will come back
tenfold or more.
So now that I gave Oscar a chance to thinkabout what he was gonna say, I'll put the put
the onus back in Oscar.
It's all up to you.
Adam.
So, yeah, I will you know, my my advice or orwhatever I I would like you to, go with after
you listen to our conversation here.
(38:25):
You know, it will be never, you know, neverdoubt, you know, if if you go with your feeling
kind of, you know, if you if you if you dreamabout it, you know, like, I learned, you know,
especially through the years and and, you know,coming to this concert and everything that if
you work hard, you know, if you don't cut anycorners, you aim how you say you aim for those
(38:47):
numbers, you you land on those numbers, youknow, type of things.
So you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
So, you know, never doubt.
I I know sometimes especially, you know, my mymessage will be to anyone listening, you know,
like, at one point I remember starting, thisbeautiful career, you know, like, start flying.
I I doubt a lot about myself and I still do,you know, to be honest with you.
(39:10):
There there there are days, you know, doing IFRstuff that I'm like, like, god, you know, like
I can't it's not I'm not feeling it like thislike I cannot do this, you know, I cannot this
is too much overwhelming, you know.
And then, you know, I come back land and andrefresh, reset, think about it and I'm like,
you know what?
I can't do this, you know.
(39:30):
You know, so my my message because you you aredoubting about yourself or you're thinking like
this is not for me.
I'm an imposter or whatever you wanna call it.
You know, rough.
You know, go out, do some patterns, come back,and you'll see you can do this.
So, you know, I I I will never forget one timewhen I was working on my private, you know, I
(39:51):
was doing the the night, you know, the nightlandings, You know?
And and I do my first one and, you know, weland here in Tyson, long 9,000 foot, you know,
runway.
We land the the s r twenty and then it wasrough.
You know?
Like, a gusty wind or something in airline.
And I told my instructor, he said, okay, fullpower, you know, flat 50 go.
(40:13):
And I'm like, you know, like, I I froze kindof.
And he say, okay, tower, we need to, like, canyou give me a meter or something?
And and my instructor will say, because he kindof knew, you know, that I get I used to get the
when I get these moments where I doubt myselfand I freeze, you know?
It's like that that that syndrome.
So he said, man, in mind, I'm your son here.
(40:34):
What are you gonna do?
You know?
You're in this wrong way.
I'm your son.
Man, that clicks back to me reset and I'm like,I got this, man.
Come on.
You know what?
I got you know, I I did like 5 night landers.
I sweet, man.
Like like butter.
You know?
So greasy.
Yeah, man.
So my and how I say, you know, I don't comefrom aviation, Adam.
You know, I have a little hours compared to alot of our listeners.
(40:57):
Maybe, you know, like, roughly, you know, like,maybe, like, 200 or 220.
I don't know.
But by right now, but, yeah, my message, youknow, like, it's beautiful.
You know, aviation is it it's a a beautifulecho see sensation, you know.
And it's not only piloting.
How I say, you know, if you wanna be aroundairplanes, man, you can be anything, you know,
(41:20):
mechanic on the tower, you know, calling theairplanes or designing airplanes or doing
videos for training people how to be safe inairplanes.
That's what I'm currently doing.
I I will never mind that was a thing, you know,like so, you know, yeah, just go for it.
Go for it.
You know, there's so there there are resourcesout there.
That's what TPN do does.
(41:42):
That's what we do.
You know, you know, we want to mentor.
We wanna inspire you.
We want to help you get wherever you wanna be,wherever you want to get.
You know?
What whatever that that destiny is.
You know?
Well, I think going forward is a great way to,wrap it up because I think that's what we
should all be doing.
And I am I cannot, agree with you more becauseI think whether it's flying airplanes, getting
(42:06):
an aviation somehow, or just life in general,just go for it.
Just go for it.
Go for it.
Go for it, man.
So if people wanna reach you or reach out to,the LPA, what's the best way for them to do
that?
Yeah.
So so first of all, thank you all for listenlistening to our to my story, and thank you for
having us.
Adam representing here.
(42:26):
Yeah.
LPA.
Yeah.
So I you know, at Latino pilot, we'reeverywhere, you know, we we are trying to get a
content or, you know, content out there,weekly.
So stay tuned at Latino pilot and Yeah.
You know, Latino pilot might I I will give youmy personal phone number, 407-729-2182.
(42:49):
Look at that.
Yeah.
Feel free.
That Yeah.
Boy It's
a dedicated mentor right there.
So
Yeah.
My friend.
So, yeah, if you are out there listening, youknow, feel free to reach out to our via social
media, my phone number or infoatlatinopilot.com.
Send you know, shoot us a message.
Anything you have questions about, mentorship,scholarships, how to become a member, pop up
(43:15):
events, you know, anything, man.
We're here to help and to inspire.
So
Awesome.
Awesome.
Well, folks, if you if you have questions,reach out to Oscar and the LPA.
If you got questions for Matt or I, it's hey,guys, at thepilotnetwork.com.
Go to the website, pilotnetwork.com or any ofthe socials.
You know where we're at.
You can reach us whenever you want to.
I wanna thank Oscar.
I wanna thank the LPA.
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They've been really supportive, and we expectthis relationship to grow beautifully and most
largely as we continue forth in this wonderfulaviation journey.
And as always folks, keep the greasy side down,shiny side up.
Fly safe.
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