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at a dissertation. Yes, noscene by scene breakdowns here. We jump
around a lot, and of coursehuge boiler alert for everything in every show
in this universe through yesterday's episode.So and luckily for lucky for us,
we don't have to worry about themairing early now. Oh yes, I'm
kind of meaning, well, theydo a little bit that they'll do it
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on Saturday. You can start watchingit on Saturday. Yeah, but we're
not doing like a week ahead,so that's nice. Yeah, I love
it. And honestly, people aren'teven posting until like later on Sunday,
I noticed, So we're totally prettymuch safe from sweeing spoiled before the air
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date. If we want to beexactly, and I like it. Yeah,
me too. Uh Okay, Episodeone high level first thoughts. Did
you love it? Hate it?What's up? Okay? I didn't.
I'm not gonna say I loved it, but I did like it a lot.
You know, it was so muchbetter than you know, the well,
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you know, I really think Ijust hate it. I hated it
so much that I just can't rememberthat the two seasons stupid show with the
teenagers. Oh yeah, I meanit is leaps and bounds above world beyond
and honestly, compared to how they'vebeen doing a you know, fear of
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the walking did still leaps and boundsabove that too. So yeah, I'm
pretty happy with it right now.I think it. I think it had
a decent start and and I'm interestedto see where it goes. Okay,
So for me, I thought,you know, it's it's good. You
know, I'm not really excited yet. I after seeing you know, the
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little thing at the end of theepisode where we got to see a bunch
of clips from the episodes to come, I got a little more happy about
it. Cool, but yeah,I'm in for the ride, and I'm
hoping that it delivers what people seemto be saying it will you know well,
and I like, I mean,I'm not I'm not gonna lie.
Darryl Dixon has always been one ofmy favorite characters. He really has been,
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so I you know, I've probablywarmed to the show a little bit
faster just because I love Darryl Dixon. But at the same time, I
do kind of like I like thefeel of it. I like I like
the fact that we're we're out ofour regular stomping grounds. I think it's
I kind of like the idea ofthis poor guy stumbling around in the country
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he doesn't speak the language in youknow, I'm torn on the France things
like I feel similar to you,and that it's different, it feels different,
it looks different, and definitely beingin France is going to shake things
up. But on the flip side, I'm like, how much French am
I going to have to hear?How much of this is? It gonna
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be heavy? And and I can'thelp but think about, like some of
the people I've listened to today,everyone's asking for forgiveness from mispronunciation of names
and places, and everyone's stumbling aroundbecause no one speaks French. Yeah,
so including us, right, sodon't look at me. I mean,
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well, I mean it's kind ofI mean because we're kind of there with
with Darrel. I mean, heone of the first things, and he
was smart. You know, hegot an English to French dictionary. Yeah.
He doesn't have Google Translate. Yeah, yeah, well they didn't they
didn't even have Google Translate when whenthis whole disaster first hit. So you
use that too, But you know, so it's it's you know, it's
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you know, as he looked upwith the signment, huh okay, you
know, he's just like whatever.They're like, okay, next, yeah,
next. You know, he washoping it might be something important,
but so it's just God's what isit, God's with you or something?
Yeah, something, And he's like, yeah, okay, fine whatever,
yeah, and you know, andhe's yeah, and I will agree with
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you. Darryl isn't enough to carrya show completely on his own. But
I mean they've already given him agroup mmmmmmm, so nuns but still a
group. Yeah, a group.That's kind of funny that they gave a
group of nuns. Y. Yeah, but these nuns they seem a little
badass, the ones that are left. You know, I'm gonna I am
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gonna say kind of stepping ahead.If I had been that Mother Superior,
I wouldn't have let those idiots inmy church. I wouldn't have either.
Oh no, you don't have toyou're not coming in here. Sorry,
No, I don't care. Imean, I mean that's an old monastery.
And you can tell because they hada weapons locker that at one point
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in time this thing was built ahold a siege. So and it's not
like they have modern weapons of war. No, the doors probably were heavy,
the gates they would probably would havetaken a lot from them to just
get in there, big metal doorsand on the heavy locks, and the
I mean the big thick walls andthe high walls, and the fact that
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they are up on a mountain withwhitey roads. It's, you know,
this isn't a good place to havea siege. And it's they don't need
to go anywhere. They have food, they have water, they have goats,
they don't you know, they couldsit in there for years and not
need to ever leave the place.Yeah, So if I had been Mother
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Superior, I would not have letthese idiots in. I would have said
no, but she lost the men, and henceforth the debacle that ensues chaos
begins. Yeah, I did think, you know, it was kind of
fun seeing him kind of trapes aroundat first figuring things out, but like
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the irony. Okay, he pullsup, you know, flailing around on
the beach and oh, I foundwater that's not salt water? Really,
okay, sure, I'll take it. It was just a little a little
plastic bucket. Actually, I wasmore surprised that there wasn't four thousand walkers
on that beach. Yeah, itwas clear that as well. But you
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know, he quickly finds the boatand he's finds more you know, water.
Okay, sure, I guess.I mean, I really just tried
to not nitpick it, but Ifound myself doing it. Hours after I
watched it. I'm thinking about it, like, uh, here we go.
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I couldn't even stop myself, LikeLisa, I tried, I tried
not to do it. I triedit so hard, and things just kept
popping up in my head as I'msitting there thinking about it. So,
I mean, the one the waterthere on the beach, I'm with you.
I was, okay, fine,you know, in the fact it
was the only thing on the beach, and there had been a whole bunch
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of stuff on the beach, itwould have been different. But the fact
that it was that was the onlything on the beach was the one thing
that kind of irritated me about thatwhole bucket thing. But you know,
as far as finding the water therein the boat, it's not like he
found like everything he ever could havepossibly needed. He got a couple of
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things, but I mean, therewas stuff everywhere. I will say that
I'm that France seems to be muchmore devastated than the United States, is
m h considering that so far,he you know, he he really hasn't
run into a whole lot of people. There doesn't seem to be a lot.
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And do you think it's just becausethe buildings are just older, you
know, so they're not as updated, They're not you know, the population
decline. I think I think oneof the reasons, this would just be
a guess why so far in Francethe number of survivors seem to be so
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significantly lower than in the United Stateshas to do with space. While I
learned when I was in France thatFrance is about the size of Texas.
Yes, it's not very big.It's not very big, and it's very
crowded, yes, very crowded,very crowded. And most of the European
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nations, most mostly Old World nationsare they're very very crowded. That you
know, houses are very close togetherthere. There's not a lot of space,
which is one of the things alot of Europeans are really surprised about
when they come to the United Statesis the amount of space between cities,
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between states, between you know,populated areas. So you know, for
something that spreads so quickly, thelack of space, the lack of you
know that there there's no boundaries tojump like like they had to in the
US. Yeah, I think it'sprobably why there are so few people that's
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at least going to be my guests. I mean, we could find out
that there's tons of people, butthey're all concentrated in small areas. But
for right, you know, thethe just how desolate it is at this
point, because you would think areasthat have still have resources, you think
you would still find at least somebody, right, and not so much Yeah,
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not yet anyway, But you know, looking forward, I know we
see more people right, So,oh yeah, there's that, which is
good. And then we had theacid walkers. Oh man, that was
the burners in the column burners.I thought that was kind of cool.
I'm like, you look at it, it's gross. Oh yeah. And
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we also find out that there's nota lot of them. There's a few
of them. Yes, there's noexplanation on why. Ye, but I
and I'm pretty sure we're going tobe seeing a lot more variants because apparently
France is the one is the placethat's creating them. Oh my gosh,
they're just doing all kinds of stuffand creating all kinds of little monsters.
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They're France. And I did alsolike the scene where, you know,
after Daryl comes too fully and thenNone is explaining to him all the things.
She does give us the audience thelowdown, right, She's like,
oh, we call them whatever,and it means this, and those are
burners, one of the variant types. So you know, she pretty much
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gave us the level load of everythingthat we needed to know immediately, which
was good, right, And itwas done in a way that didn't make
it too artificial, because he hasno idea what's going on. He needs
this information, so you know,we're just the passengers that's getting it right
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along with them. Yeah, andit's starting to feel like that. It
feels like we are stumbling around withhim, like next to him, because
we don't know any more than hedoes. And I do like that.
Yeah. I like the fact thatwe're you know, we are not the
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we're not the god observers in thiswhere we already know all the answers.
You know, we're going, oh, don't be so stupid. You know,
we're stumbling around being stupid with them. But I have no idea what's
going on, and I feel likewe can't even like and I feel like
the other shows, even though wemight not actually know, but I feel
like there was a lot more spoilersand rumors and it made it feel like
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we know everything. But I feellike we honestly don't really know. For
this show, Right and Different.We also find out it's not that Darryl
has lost his memory. They're justnot oh my god, yeah, it's
just that they're not telling us everythingin one bite, right what happened?
So we know that he was,you know, attached to a lifeboat.
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We know that there was some kindof accident at sea, and then we
find out at the end of theshow that he was on that ship and
there was an uprising. Yeah,there were other prisoners, which I feel
like that's gonna be the entry forCarol. You think she was on the
boat with him. I don't thinkso, because one, I don't think
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he ever would have left without Carol. Well, if he somehow got on
a boat or in the water andfound a boat, we'll see how that
all unfolds during the next five Everyonethat they showed coming off the boat,
those prisoners were dead. They wereall walkers. I don't know, because
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I feel like how else would Carolget there? So if she was also
escaped but they got separated, thatwould lead her to land somewhere nearby,
you know, maybe be Spain orsomeplace close enough for her to walk and
they bump into each other. Yeah, maybe, But at that point again,
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I think because Daryl is is intenton getting back to the US,
not finding Carol. Yeah, that'sweird, Okay, I'm curious to see
how they work that in Well,I mean it's it's not like the you
know, Ocean Side didn't have aboat. Yeah, And I don't know
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if they had an ocean worthy boat, though, I mean that's that boat
was I mean they said it wasgoing out for months at a time.
Yeah, and uh, And honestly, it's it's not that long. I
mean, truthfully, it's not thatlong of a voyage. It's not.
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No, No, it does notgo more than what It's not like a
plane. Yeah, plane you canget there in eight hours. No,
but I mean it's like fourteen days. Fourteen days. Okay, maybe in
today's version of a cruise ship maybeno, but I mean in a sailing
boat, it's about fourteen days.As long as you know, there's what
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do they call them ocean streams thatthey're essentially jet streams of the water that
helps scoot you along between the USand and you're I'll have to take your
word for it. I don't knowanything about it. Yeah, I mean
you're in you're a decent sailor,you know, you know where you're going
about fourteen days or so. Yeah, I mean, it's it's not it's
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not like three months on on theocean or anything. It's it really isn't.
No. I think that's kind ofextreme. But I didn't think fourteen
days that's for sure, Yeah,it's I mean they've and I mean,
so who knows. I mean,like I said, it's it's it's not
a huge, huge long trip,it's not an overnight. But yeah,
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no, yeah, okay, SoI guess we'll see how she ends up
showing up. But we've got tomeet a lot of new people in this
episode. So what'd you think aboutthat old man and that woman? I
think Mirabelle, I think that's hername. He first stumbled across. Yeah,
I'm blind, and she's like,what's cracking new to him? I
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know, And I will say honestly, when I first saw her, I
thought she was a boy. Okay, I thought she was a young boy,
you know. But yeah, assoon as they started talking, and
I'm like, there's something wrong withthese people. I don't know what.
But Daryl has has every right tobe suspicious. Yeah yeah, but he
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helps, you know, he givesher the medical pack and exchange for food.
He seems to, you know,want to help pretty quickly, and
then he comes and fights with herand all of this stuff pretty quickly.
And well, I think I meanthe fighting part I think is is that
was probably just as much self preservationas anything else. So without knowing.
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You know, obviously these are notgood people, and getting them while they're
distracted was probably in his best favor. Although apparently, like we've said before,
no one's really good, right,And she shows her colors pretty quickly
after that. You know, shethink, you think she's going to help
him, and then no, that'snot what happens at all. Well,
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and they do seem to be snatchingup all the youngsters too, Yeah,
they want all the young people.Well, we saw one, right,
we know they want it. Whoelse did they take? They wanted to
take Laurent, yes, but whowas the other? The girl there?
They're going to take off with her? A girl? She's not a child?
Well, no i'm not. ButI mean they're not looking for like
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little kids. I mean they're lookingfor recruits, okay, looking for young
people. I feel like they're lookingfor boys. I don't think they were
gonna take Marrable if that's her name. I think that's her name. I
didn't get that at all. Butwhen they saw the kid, when they
saw Laurent, I'm like, oh, they want him. He's a boy
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and they can train him, right, I don't know, I'm not I'm
pretty sure, you're probably I meanmale or female. They're probably taking anyone
they can find all. They probablyhave no interest in anybody, say over
twenty five. Well, he saidat the end, when she gives up
Darryl, you know, the Americanor whatever, he lets her live.
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He doesn't take her and say,oh, you're gonna be joining us or
anything. He just says, thereyou go, you live. So he
didn't. They got their mercy,he got She got mercy. That was
her reward. Yeah, so Idon't think he want wanted her to be
a part of their crew. Idon't. I don't think that for her
it was something else. There's morethere we haven't seen yet. There's more
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there. Well, the reason Isay that is because when would those guys
first encountered those two and Darryl.They snatched her up when I was trying
to take her into the truck.Well, we know there's more the furious
reasons someone could be Well, yes, I understand that, I guess.
But but again, as soon asthey saw Laurent, they immediately snatched him
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up too, in the same way. So I'm just wondering if this is
just there, you know, ifthey see anybody young m because the nuns
were worried about them seeing him aswell. Yeah, they were hiding him.
They were hiding him, yep.So I think that this is just,
you know, part of what theydo for recruitment. They just go
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through and they they take the onesthat are probably my guest is probably fifteen
to twenty five. Well, Ialso have to wonder, you know,
the point of the place where theywere they were trying to say it was
only them there, right. Idon't even know if it was necessarily like
because he was a boy and young, or because that they were just trying
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to not show that anyone ever wasthere with them either. They didn't want
them to know the America was there. So I don't know. I feel
like after we hear their little spillhurt, you know, I think it
was Isabella's at her name the spellon why you know they need help getting
to where they need to go.What they think Laurent is. I don't
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know if it is as simple asjust hiding the kid from them. I
think they were just hiding anyone thatthey helped, anyone that could come in
those doors from an outside, well, the nuns, but if they're aware,
they're obviously aware of who this groupis because the mother Superior said to
one of them, come here everySunday for you know, for mass.
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So they're obviously still performing mass,which means they're partially open, which means
they are aware. And Isabelle doesgo out into the world and puts her
signs up and stuff, so it'snot like they're completely cloistered. It's not
that they have no idea what's goingon out there. So they know who
these people are. These guys areyea, and they know what kind of
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people they are. So my guessis is they are aware of the fact
that they they probably take younger people, you know, it's not I mean
there's countries that do that now,you know, and create child soldiers,
so that that would, you know, to fill their ranks, you know.
I'm sure this is part of whatthey're doing. Again, there's not
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a lot of people there, yeah, there aren't. But we don't know
how many people are in their group. We don't know anything about them yet.
We've got real surface level information atthis point about them. According to
Lord, there's about six hundred thousandpeople left in France, yeah, which
is not that many, which isnot that many. Uh, yeah,
that's a that's a sad state.He said, takes generations. What do
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you say, three or four generations, five or six seven, six to
seven generations? Thank you? Sothat's a lot. Yeah. Now,
as an interesting side note, that'sthe first time we've ever gotten any number
and how many approximate people they thinkis in an area, because we have
no idea how many people in theUS. They have never once speculated.
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No, no, I guess that'ssomething, but that's probably the last time
we'll hear of anything about that likethat. They've done the duty, they
checked the box. They're not gonnaright. I just I just want to
point out that we don't have anyidea how many numbers are in the US.
We haven't we don't even know howmany people have ever been in a
group, unless it was small likeunder ten, but whatever they've gotten bigger.
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We've never had any idea how manypeople were actually with him, right,
right, So, so the factthat they gave us a number about
sixty or six hundred thousand people leftis uh, I mean, that's something
that is I mean, I guesswe'll have to see as it continues.
Well, we see numbers or kindof have a good inclination of how many
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people are in that bad group,how many people work for you know,
the people on the boat, howmany people. I mean, we'll just
have to wait and see how itgoes well. And the other interesting thing
I thought was the way Daryl perkedup when he saw that shortwave radio.
Oh my gosh, I wonder wherehe thought he was gonna call. But
here's here's kind of what I wasthinking when you were talking about Carol.
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It is very, very possible thatwhile he was on that ship he could
get a short wave message to Carol, or at least maybe not to her
directly, but sent to the Commonwealth. Okay, I got I cannot kind
of disbelief. You can't tell meyou think that he can reach the Commonwealth
from France on a short wave radio? No, no, no, no,
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when he was on the ship.So if he actually got a hold
of someone and told told him whatwas going on, if they said we'll
send help, that's maybe who hewas trying a short wave radio m h,
hoping that they're not far behind.Maybe, because I don't think he
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would. I mean, on ashort wave radio, technically you can reach
anywhere line of sight. Okay,if you have a really good short wave
radio with a good antenna, Iknow in the US here you can reach
China, you can reach you know, parts of Alaska from the continental US,
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you know. So it just itdepends on the power of your short
wave. Yeah, and our infrastructureis solid right now, right, But
that's not how that's not how shortwave radio works. Well, you have
to teach me another day. That'snot for this podcast. Okay, Okay,
sorry, they're not they're pre infrastructure. Okay, Well, I don't
know. I I guess we justwhatever, just go along. I guess,
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I don't know. It doesn't evenmatter. They left the the place
where the nuns were anyway, sothey have a map of places that they
have talked to, so at leastthey have that. Basically, they have
a bap of safe houses to getthem from point eight to France or to
Paris, I mean, which iswhere they're heading. So I wonder you
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think that guy's just going to followthem, yes, m hm, oh
yeah, absolutely. I know he'sangry about his brother, but yes,
he doesn't seem to be a manthat lets things go. He kind of
reminds me of Garrel's brother. Ifyou want to know the truth. Oh
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my god. M hm, well, I'm sure he won't make it out
this season at this pace. Imean, honestly, Daryl was killing a
bunch of family quickly. You know, his fighting game is strong. He
kills all the what do they callhim in this setting? Oh? I
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think he kills all the OBErs.No, they don't call him overs what
they call him? You know,I can't remember. I know Kranas in
the audience. She'll tell us ifshe wants the time catchups catches up with
her. Yeah, but he killsall of them. He kills everybody.
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I mean, he is almost invincible, to be honest. Well, but
I mean the good thing is ishe does get hurt, he does,
you know. I mean he gotburned by by the burner and and then
they suterized his arm. Oh mygod, yeah, pleasant, Oh my
god, I'm like, dang,that must hurt so bad. Oh,
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absolutely, well, I mean,you know it's bad enough. I mean
he has to burn on his armto begin with, but you know,
is just awful. And then toput fire on top of fire. Oh
oh, I mean I bet thatwas just excruciated it's probably hurting for days
and days and days. I don'tknow how he was able to function with
his arm in that pain. Adrenalinesomething, because I mean, that's gotta
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that's gonna hurt for a while.Well. And I mean if you look
at Daryl, you can obviously seethat he has been injured a lot.
So you know, you do kindof get used to pain. I'm not
saying it's a good thing. I'mjust saying you can. Yeah, but
burns are like it doesn't really stop. It's like a steady stream of pain.
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Oh I know, Oh yeah,you know. And and and then
he also got the head injury.Yeah, he got shot. And then
he got ludgend by that girl.And you know he's not he's not had
a really good time. And andsince he's gotten off, you know,
since he's gotten on, sure,he's been limping. Mm uh. Part
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of the reason I think he pickedthat particular stack thing was because the way
he was limping, he was usingit to help him help him walk.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, wegotta figure out why he's limping. Yeah,
because you know, he's got thatold cowboy gate right now. M
mmmm. Okay, So see whatelse. What else should we talk cover?
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Well, there is Lauren. Weshould probably talk about him a little
bit. So you're saying Lauren,I'm saying Laurent. What is it?
I don't know. I was lookingat the I had it on subtile.
The spelling on you know, thecast is Laurent l A U R E
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N T. But maybe the Tsilent Lauren Lauren. Yeah, I would
just I that's how I've been pronouncingit. Huh. But no one should
listen to me. I'm dyslexic.I don't know. I'm not French,
so I don't know the French pronunciationfor things. So Lauren, maybe,
I don't know. We'll figure itout as we hear it more right,
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But yeah, let's talk about hima little bit. So we we briefly
find out that his mother died whilegiving birth and turned mmmmmm giving birth to
her, which again gives me alittle bit of that the last of us
vibes mmm. And but instead ofhim being the cure, you know,
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but in his blood, they assumethat he's he's a miracle baby. Yeah,
but they're on so I mean they'relooking for miracles. Yeah, So
okay, So yes, he diddo one thing. So he obviously he
must have some kind of premonition orsome kind of sight or I don't know,
that's what they're trying to imply.Because he drew a like a photo
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of Daryl like in the water weeksbefore he arrived, right, So that's
one thing. Obviously, the kid'svery smart. I guess they're trying to
say he has a lot of intuitionwhen it comes to like people, and
just maybe maybe he has a highlevel of empathy for people or well if
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when when Daryl was sitting there inthe window, Laurent was across the way
doing mimicking him exactly he was,and I thought that was weird. I'm
like, why is he doing that? Yeah, and so I you know,
so he was doing everything Daryl wasdoing. Then he came out to
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him, He's like, figure itout. No, that's not my thing.
Definitely not my thing. And youknow, and he's obviously this kid
is very well educated. The nunshave spent a considerable amount of time educating
him, so you know, heknows history and geography and mathematics, and
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he's probably the most well educated childin the world right now. To be
quite truthful, Yeah, he's verysmart. He knows a lot. He
knows a lot, So whether hehas any higher purpose or not, the
fact is is that kind of educationmakes for a good leader period. So
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I'm gonna be honest, I don'tlove the religious aspect. I don't love
it. I'm kind of hoping likethis is just the baseline of them kind
of trying to explain what they thinkhis capabilities are, and not that it's
gonna be like the one type scenario. I really am not hoping not that's
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not it. From I have seenreviews by people that have already seen the
entire season, and from they saidthat while there's a religious aspect to it,
it's all one of those decide yourselfkind of things. It could be
supernatural or it could just be happenstance. Yeah, because I feel like even
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they're trying to because it seems likeDarrel, even though he hasn't really said
it, they're trying to say he'slike agnostic probably, and they're like,
oh, you know, you canbelieve all this stuff, and of course
with the God Loves You signs,And I'm like, I wonder if like
Daryl's going to come out of thislike Catholic or something. I don't.
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I don't think so, I don'tknow. I think, you know,
not. Here's the thing I mean, I don't think Daryl is one of
the I don't if someone is agnostic, it doesn't they don't necessarily need religion
to fulfill their their happiness. Quotequote yeah, I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying like, I feellike there's gonna be some kind of transformation
(34:15):
with him if they're gonna try toattempt and I hope it's not that.
Well what I wouldn't, you know, because it's the one thing I kind
of caught from from this is atthis point, Darryl seems like he's lost
some hope. You know, how'dyou get here? I made a lot
of bad decisions, you know,and uh, you keep hearing the voice
(34:37):
of Judith you deserve a happy ending. And Laurent even says, yeah,
he says the same thing. Hesays the same thing, which is part
of the reason why Darrell even kindof paid attention to him, and which
again just could be coincidence, becauseit's it's not an uncommon thing to hear,
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you know. There there's several religionsthat said, you know, if
you know things are still going wrong, it means that it's not the end.
I don't put faith in that becauseI have seen lives go terribly wrong
and they didn't get better, soand it still was the end. But
there are a lot of religious premisesthat you know, as you know,
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as long as things are, aslong as you're alive, there's always a
chance for it to get better.Blah blah blah. So him saying that
isn't out of left field. Yeah, so they're they're giving you these coincidences,
but not necessarily saying this is absolutelywhat it is. Because this kid
could have just drawn a picture.Yeah, it could have just been a
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coincidence. Could have been a coincidencebecause I mean, looking at the picture,
it was a sketch of a guyof a very generic looking person with
waves behind him. Right. Thenagain, it may not even been waves.
They were just scribbles. So youknow, it could just be generic
(36:02):
or it could be something. AndI'm okay with it could be one or
the other, because I think themore what they're probably trying to push more
at this point is Darrel getting hopeagain, not necessarily faith, but hope.
Now, I do think with themgoing down this road, it's kind
of a fine line, right,So this world has firmly been set in
(36:27):
reality, right, reality and somescience. And obviously because these walkers or
whatever they call them in this series, they're not supernatural. They're not you
know, they're not any of that. So using this child in a way
that feels elevated and maybe the oneish, right, is it supernatural?
(36:55):
Is it religion? Is it?You know, is he the second coming?
You know, it's like they've they'vegot a fine line before. It's
like rolling your eyes. So right, well, and like I said,
I mean, nuns are looking forfaith, they're looking for the for the
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signs, and they're hoping, youknow, they're They even said, we're
being tested. You know, thisis part of our our test to see
if we're worthy, which again,I you know, I don't think that
that's a really good test, butyou know, according to them, I
mean, Noah's Noah's family was theonly one that lived after wiping out all
of humanities, So maybe this isn'tyou know, isn't quite as bad as
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that, you know, according tothe nuns. So you know, it's
all in perspective. I suppose.But again, the way this kid has
been educated, he is very intelligent, and the the guy that came through
and and and and who wants himto come to their to their community,
I could see him being used asyou know, becoming a leader, because
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again, you want someone that thatknows history and that knows strategy, that
that understands it's empathetic. Those thoseare the people that make amazing leaders,
that don't lead their followers into death, that don't make hasty, stupid decisions.
And so he you know, whatthey've done is that they've groomed him
(38:28):
to be the perfect leader for theirtime. But all of that, even
with all of that, he's stilla freaking child. He still he shows
that he's a child when none says, hi didn't here lock the door,
door come out, and he didn'tlock the door and he came out exactly.
I'm like, even with all ofthat, he is a child.
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Oh yeah, I mean it's notthat I don't think that, because they've
even said they wanted to take himto this this other community to continue his
education. So they know that he'snot ready, they know that he is
not it right now, but hehas the potential to be it, you
know, the voice, it couldyou know, rally the troops, so
to speak, and until he's like, I want to leave with Daryl.
(39:14):
I'm leaving, you know, Andyou know, you know, you know,
Darrel's not a bad you know,guardian figure. He really isn't.
I don't think he's what they thinkhe is. I And being that you
said that, you know, religionisn't really a major component from what you've
fred. It's obviously gonna die down. And I do feel like there's some
(39:37):
other, Like I said, Ithink there's something else there that hasn't been
revealed yet that may not that maysway it a way more away from like
the you know, heavy talents thatwe were getting in the first episode.
Right well, I mean we aretalking about a group of duds that have
cloistered themselves for them, posted themselvesaway this monastery. It has been there
(40:00):
since the beginning, since the fall, you know, So I mean I
don't think you couldn't not have religionat that point under those particular circumstances.
But now they're leaving the monastery andthere's only two of them left, two
nuns out of all of the nunsthat were and there was. There wasn't
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a ton of them, but therewas, you know, twenty thirty of
them. So do the zombie walkerthingies and not hear sounds in this world?
Why are they singing a damn songmountain behind four in your four footballs?
Look? Okay, but they're everywhere, right, I mean, how
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they had the priest in there linedup well because he died? Yes,
what they thought, Oh, ifwe pray enough, he'll come back.
Yeah, it's the dumb that isthe dumb shit right there. Yeah,
I know. But then again,I mean we've we've we've seen there are
people keeping zombies for similar reasons,you know, in the hopes that they
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could you know, reach the personthat was there. Even I mean,
if you think about it, evenwith the Morgan, Morgan is kind of
kind of delves a little over intothe not religious but and I don't want
to say supernatural either, but intothat little other worldliness, particularly when he
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goes off the deep end. Yeah, but you know, there's there's connections
there and and I think they're they'rekind of doing that a little bit with
this over there, that same kindof connectivity that they've they've done with Morgan
over the years. I don't know, We've seen it time and time again.
Different people, for different reasons,keep their children, Like the governor
kept his child on you know theoriginal show, right, you know,
(41:54):
just for whatever, because's wife keptgoing back to their house exactly. And
I think it's just family, theties that bind you, right, You
want them, you want to reachthem. You keep hoping that something won't
happen that will fix them, right, and so up in the attic,
(42:15):
Yeah, in the attic, Yeah, he couldn't kill him, So he's
like, I'll just leave him here, you know, not all of them
can tell him to look at theflowers. Yeah, And I don't think
he necessarily in Morgan's case, Idon't think he was necessarily thinking that he
would revert or something would happen.But he just couldn't kill him. He
couldn't kill him. He couldn't killhis wife, you know. And so
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and I think these nuns, youknow, are again they're they're nuns.
They want a miracle, they wantGod to show his hand. They're like,
we're gonna force a miracle. Ifit kills us, we're going to
make one. And and so theyput their their you know, their mouth
senior, you know, in alocked room, and they prayed over him,
and you know, the boy wasreading him poetry. They were all
(43:00):
taking turns trying to reignite that sparkof community with with poetry and whatever else
you know, and pros and probablyreally you know, Bible readings, but
we all know that that's not gonnawork. Absolutely. But again, there
there is that hope springs eternal andthey're none. So you know, they're
(43:23):
they're in the miracle business. That'swhat that's religions for. They're they're in
the miracle business. Oh, thewrong business for an apocalypse, but I
guess yeah, But I mean,you gotta admit they built that place really
well, yeah they did. Andif Mother Superior had not let them in,
I think they would have been okay. Yeah, but I mean the
(43:45):
fact that like so many of themgot wiped out, I thought that was
a shame. I'm like, firstepisode and there's like two of you left,
Like that's so crazy, and it'syou know, because they were completely
self sustating. You know, theyhad garden, they had their own water,
they had you know, goats andchickens and what have you. And
(44:06):
yeah, I mean they were completelyself sufficient up there, they'd surviving for
decades, like a decade, justa viving, and then all of a
sudden they come in and just everyonedies. Yeah I know. Yeah.
Now that being said, it's notlike they had never let anyone else in,
you know, because they shot theone none Isabel had said that they
(44:27):
had, you know, there therehave been others. So it's it's not
like their doors were completely closed.But they choose who they want to protect
or they want to help, rightfor whatever reason, and then these people
either leave or whatever happens happens.And they were still and they were still
doing Sunday services. Yeah, soyou know they were again, they were
(44:51):
they were apart, but they werestill not completely closed off. And you
know, if if that places builtlike a lot of the old old monasteries,
the they probably would have had anouter church where they probably had the
services rather than inside the actual monasteryitself. That makes sense. That's how
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they could invite the public, right, we give the service without compromising or
exposing Laurent to those people exactly.No one knew he was there exactly,
but then again, he wasn't acomplete secret because they did, you know,
he was known to this one,you know, leader that came through
and said, bring him to mygroup. Although why he didn't take him
(45:37):
with him, I don't know.I don't know. So anyway, Yeah,
maybe he didn't feel that he couldtake him there on his own wasn't
safe, which I mean kind ofmakes sense. Yeah, what else,
what else let's see did we cover? Oh, let's talk a little bit
(46:00):
about the intro. You did giveus a little article earlier talking about how
the intro kind of gave us whatmore info on how these other variants have
been made. And that symbol,that fire symbol that's also on all the
(46:20):
trucks on the bad Guys trucks.So are we thinking these people are adjacent
to the CRM or they are theCRM. I'm gonna go with they're at
least connected to them. Yeah,if they have a ship going back and
back and forth. And considering soin worlds beyond the very last episode,
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you know, they showed that thatclip about what was going on in France
and how it connected, you know, and there was some connection there to
the CRM in the United States,So I'm gonna say that there is in
Otherwise, why go through the timean expense and bother of sending a ship
to the US to to bring peopleover. Yeah, so my guess is
(47:07):
they are probably picking up walkers andbringing them. No, they're picking up
people from the CRM, the onesthat have they've designated as you know,
experimental victims. Oh my god.Okay, but then okay, so let's
think though, but that one locationwas destroyed, but they obviously have more
than one. They can't have one, right, that was just that was
(47:30):
they even said there was an out. It was a just a satellite facility
because remember they were going to movethe one doctor to the big facility.
That just seems like so wasteful ofpeople, because there's already not that many
people even in the United States,even if we don't have a number.
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If you just think about the amountof people that have have died. Everyone
knows people that have died, multiplepeople that have died, and then to
just throw away life for experiments tosee what you could turn them into,
that seems like incredibly wasteful. Right. Well, they are being selective,
you know, they're they're dividing theminto two kinds of people. But I
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also think that because part of theirbecause I do believe part of what it
is is before they're turning them intowalkers, you know, they're they're pumping
in full of various drugs and anddifferent things to see, you know,
if they can make them immune,if they can make a more subservient or
doc doscile. You know, they'rethey're you know, they're just experimenting on
(48:34):
people. But I think that that'sthe reason they've gone to the United States
is to pick up the what wouldit be the bees that yeah, the
bees, and must know why theUS like why there's so many countries in
Europe that are right there, becauseit could be that the CRM has been
(48:55):
maintaining the experiments where France maybe didn'tbecause you see, because the one place,
the one facility we saw it hadbeen completely overrun. So if they're
if they're connected to the CRM,and the CRM is still running the experiments,
but the France no longer is capableof it because they've lost all their
scientists because they got eighty, thenthey're probably just getting their test subjects from
(49:20):
from the CRM because they've already beenprepped. Well, definitely, the woman
what was the woman's name, uh, Janny Janney that's it. The woman
at the end who was on theboat, I feel like she was given
off CRM vibes, right, yeah, her outfit and the way she was
(49:40):
talking to the captain, which,by the way, I thought she was
going to kill the captain. Ohhe's a dead man. I also on
the pictures, so if you lookat the picture for those who can actually
see the picture she has posted,there's a circle around the carotid artery and
a pair of In French, it'sbasically talking about an injection site that that's
(50:06):
where whatever they're trying to inject needsto be injected. Uber no one.
Apparently that's not French. Some peopleare wondering if it's actually just kind of
as in the ride share service Uber. You know, I thought about that.
I'm like, is it Uber?Yeah? You know, so you
(50:27):
know, basically you know, usingyou know, it's a ride share and
uh you know, so some ofthis do have Uber in France by the
way, Yeah, I know,And uh so yeah, this this one
page here, you know, ifyou want to try, you know,
do the Google Translate and apparently there'sa couple of places already that uh people
(50:49):
have done the legwork for you.That will translate this entire page. But
it's all about experiments and you know, different things that they're trying to do.
Yeah, why so scary? Imean, like we like so for
example in the other show, sowe know we've seen climbing walkers, we've
seen yeah, yeah, so Iguess agile or they can kind of do
(51:16):
an action to do what they wantto do, not just chase you.
Well, and again at the onthe at the end of the French episode
there on Discovery or we'll be onthey fat, they were fast, and
they seem to be a little bitsmarter too. They were cagi and trying
(51:40):
to open a door or something.They were Yeah, and they were super
fast and super strong. So youknow, again there's these variants, and
apparently the experiments that they have beendoing there are causing these variants. M
hm. So the ones that we'reseeing back in the US might be escape
test subjects from some CRM facility,because if they're all sharing methods, sharing
(52:07):
formulas, whatever it is they're doing, then they could be testing them and
releasing them. Right just because wealso know that you know that they were
they were tagging and observing walkers,So it's very possible that they were making
these variants and just setting them outin the wild with the trackers to see
what they were doing. That isso crazy. That's so crazy, But
(52:30):
you know what, that's what thisshow isn't bike. I think that if
we get a full circle with theCRM and this show this season, I
think I would enjoy that most becauseI'm kind of tired of the CRM already.
I kind of would love to seethem wrap up this story, and
(52:52):
of course there's still more story totell, but I would love to just
make this connection and kind of starttying off loose ends with that group.
And if this season allows that,it would be really helpful for me.
I would really like it well,and even to find out what it is
they're really all about. I mean, we know that they're militaristic, but
we also know that they have acivilian government that isn't completely aware of what
(53:14):
the military is doing, so andwe don't know how far spread it is,
and we don't know if this groupin France is a part of CRM
or if they're you know, ayou know, just an acquaintance group,
collaborators, yeah, partners or something. Yeah, partners collaborators. Yeah,
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because I don't know, but theycould just be opening more plot lines,
right, more plot lines, youknow. Then again, like I said,
at least we know that they're atleast tying what's going on here in
France. Back to that, Yeah, yeah, that end credit. And
since we're going into also the Rickand Machine, we're going to get a
(53:59):
lot more information about the CRM.So I think I kind of think they're
going to use the Daryl Show iskind of a prep up for what we're
going to experience with the CRM andRicky Machone. Yeah, but that also
tells me whatever happens in this showkind of needs to have some kind of
conclusion because the ones that live theirshow airs before season two of this show
(54:25):
is even a thought right before theycan even make it. So, whatever
is happening with the CRM and thisgroup, it needs to come to fruition
in order for the Ricky Machone showto make sense. Well, yes and
no, I mean because if itcould just be that this show is going
to give us our base, youknow, maybe even like the origins of
(54:50):
where the CRM came from, becauseit's very possible that they were from that
that little end piece, there's thatindication that a group get away, they
were in the United States. Theycould be the heart of the CRM that's
doing these experiments. I want thisover. How many more seasons on how
many more shows do we have todeal with the CRM? So Dead City
(55:15):
has not acknowledged the CRM group reallynot like this not really show is.
But if we have to deal withthis for many more seasons on this show
and then I don't know if it'sbeen confirmed or not, if the Rick
and Mashoon show would be more thanone season, or if it's supposed to
be one season, right, Idon't know. I just would love for
(55:37):
this to come to a close beforethis time next year. Can we move
on? Can we move on?Well? And I mean the thing of
it is is we also know thatthe CRM is vast. It covers a
lot of cities, a lot ofspaces. So it's not going to be
one of those things where they goin and you know, kill a particular
(55:58):
leader or something in the whole fromballs, because the CRM isn't it's not
set up to just follow you know, it's it's not a strong man.
But for that reason, it won'tbe the focus of the it won't be
the main villain every season. Right, it's just operating in the background,
right, it's just making everyone's lifemiserable, right, you know, essentially.
(56:22):
But I really it would be niceto at least know what their agenda
is. We've kind of gotten someclues, but we still really don't know.
It's obviously not to save humanity,not that they're creating walkers, So
it would be nice to know whattheir endgame is, so to speak.
Yeah, okay, anything else onthis because I would like to talk about
(56:46):
Fear for a minute before we closeit out. Sure, go for it,
okay. So Karina sent me thisearlier. She sent a couple of
screenshots from Twitter. I didn't geta chance to upload them to our live
stream, but I guess a personwho has access to the episodes early at
(57:07):
Sonja Irena. Yeah, I thinkthat's it. I'll put it somewhere in
the notes if y'all want to findher. So she watched eight oh seven
and she says, quote, holyshit, y'all bonker, so damn good.
Nice again, I'm irritated it couldn'thave been this good all along,
(57:30):
and wasn't Kim Dickens raises the barfor everyone, and boy do they meet
her level. End quote. Youknow, I'm gonna if it really is
that good, I am going toI parent her thought of why couldn't they
(57:50):
have done this all along? Yes? Facts, but is this motivating you
to go back and watch season threewith that villain that guy? No?
No, You're like, no,that's because I don't care how good this
new upcoming season is. I knowhow bad Season three was and I'm not
(58:15):
doing it. I Am not subjectingmyself to that because it's all gonna be
about Madizine. Madisone Madizine and Idon't like her. Wow, Okay,
that's fair. That's fair because I'mlike, I know, we've got like
six episodes with her as the mainprotagonist. I know, and I'm like,
(58:37):
Lisa's gonna hate it, I am, But if she does a good
job, maybe you won't hate itas much. Maybe maybe. I mean,
honestly, I'm excited to see howthis all ends and if they'll throw
us another bone, like a connectivetissue between these worlds. Now, Yeah,
(58:59):
I mean I am. I'm Ihope that that the Walking Dead they've
they've corrected themselves and or fear,Yeah, fear the Walking Dead, because
there were seasons where I watched wherethey were really good and then they dropped
a nuke mm hmm and things wentincredibly side sideways. Yeah, when they
(59:24):
did that, I that we bothagree that was not the best. They
could have done something else. Itkind of just ruined the show a little
bit. They jumped a shark.Yeah. And and the fact that the
rest of the you know, therest of the you know, the universe
all around in areas that would havebeen somewhat near them, even never mentioned
(59:45):
the fact that there was a nuclearexplosion, you know, several of them
as a matter of fact, becauseyou know it was from it wasn't it
was one of those that you knowscattered, you know, the fountain was.
Yeah, so it wasn't just onenuclear explosion, was like seven and
nobody noticed outside of Texas or whereverthe hell they were at the time.
(01:00:07):
No, No one noticed one explosionwhere how No don't understanding. Yeah,
you know, I mean these thingsare they're loud, and they're bright,
and you know there's you know,there's evidence of it happening. So yeah,
the fact that the rest of theuniverse has completely ignored it just kind
(01:00:30):
of really just made it awful.It made the whole thing awful. And
and the fact that you know,like when Morgan was trying to get the
baby Morgan out and stuff, youknow, initially, and they built the
car and they're all mad maxing itout and you know, they get stopped
by the baby eaters and you know, oh lord, you know, and
(01:00:52):
then in the next episode they're outwandered around it's safe here, really kind
of taking that route out. Yeah, there was a lot of that going
on, which was made it reallydifficult and annoying, made it really annoying.
You know, oh what a minute, you have a boat and you're
right next to the water the wholetime. The whole time. You know,
why did you mad MAXI why didyou just take that blow up boat
(01:01:15):
and just go down the river?You know. So, yeah, there
was a lot of things that justmade it terrible. Fighting over a high
rise apartment? Are you kidding me? I know, I'm really curious to
see what, you know, Strandends up doing. Is he back good
again? What the hell's going on? So many questions? Yeah, I
(01:01:36):
mean, it's not like Strand's everbeen really good. He's been on a
leash. Well, is he backon his leash? Let's put it that
way, right, Is he notcrazy right now? Exactly? Well with
Mark and Gone, he doesn't haveyou know, he doesn't have that competition,
so maybe he'll settle down. Ohmy god, he's so jealous of
him, it's not even funny,I know. Oh my god. So
(01:02:01):
yeah, I'm actually really looking forwardto the back half of this final season.
I think it should swing in hasDarryl Dixon has done, it should
swing right into. Yeah. Sowe've got essentially eleven more weeks than right,
five more with Darryld Dixon and thensix more with Fear. So we'll
(01:02:23):
be here all eleven weeks yep.So take us up to what this December?
Oh no, I'm thinking November somethingactually, okay either, I don't
know. I know it's generally stopsright before like the holiday stuff. Yeah,
so we'll be in line with that. So yeah, I'm excited.
(01:02:43):
I'm looking forward to it. I'mreally trying to y'all. And I know
I sound kind of grumpy about DarrylDixon a little bit, but I'm really
trying. I'm really trying to likeit. I'm trying to get into the
vibe. It's just a little adjustmentand I'm not really just like, I'm
not like jumping on the bandwagon withevery one just yet. Like I said,
you know, am I in lovewith it? I am not.
(01:03:04):
But I really do like watching Darryl. That's fair. That's completely fair,
because you know the Daryl fans,you know, the hardcore I know.
I mean, I'm not that level, but I do like, I do
like Dryl. I've liked him sincehe was he first showed up on on
the series, and I just Idon't know. He was gruff but kind,
(01:03:24):
and he was just someone that Ijust I thought was a good character.
You know, the Carollers as theycall them, I fear they've been
up to no good again, nocreating a ruckus do talking smack you know,
yeah, wouldn't be the Walking DayUniverse without them carrying on about Carol
(01:03:46):
and Daryl. Oh geez, justthe friends, guys. They can they
can be just friends, I know, right, Oh my god, I
get it together, people, Let'smove on right. If they were gonna
do it, it would have beenright after the Gypsy Rose episode, and
they didn't. It didn't happen.Nah, And now they're friends, yes,
(01:04:12):
and they're like family, right,I mean I have you know,
my oldest dearest friend is a man, and we have been friends since nineteen
ninety you know, and that's all. We are friends. Yeah. See,
if that could happen, that canexist in this world. You know,
you know, occasionally wants me tobe his wing man. I mudge,
(01:04:35):
you know, but we're friends andthere's never gonna be you know,
no one's rooting for us or anything. Don't get me wrong. It's not
like we have cheering fans or anything. What are you going to get together?
We're not. But no, Imean it's it is very, very
possible for men and women to befriends if it's a relationship built on mutual
(01:04:55):
respect. Yeah, I agree.And that's what Daryl and Carroll had is
a solid relationship built on mutual respectand right and experience and friendship. And
there they are literally like family,like may sit together for so long.
They grew up together basically, youknow, their brother and sister essentially,
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you know. So the people thatkeep trying to get them together, I'm
like, Noah, they like kissingyour star. This is an Arkansas sorry,
sorry. I wish the show runnerswould just tell the Carollers to take
a seat. It's not gonna happen, just not gonna just voice it so
they can calm down. And honestly, if they if they try to get
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Darryl and Carroll together as a couple, I would honestly be very upset me
too. That would be so disgustingafter all that they've been through and all
that you know, they've set themup for this path, and then to
do an about face would be verydisturbing. It would be very disturbing.
Yes, yeah, so don't doit, guys, don't get into peer
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pressure. Don't do it. Allright, I think we're done today.
What do you think, Lisa?I think so, dear. Okay,
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