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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, what is up? Everyone? Welcome to the recap of
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are covering Gerald Dixon season two subtitled The Book of

(00:27):
Carol Episode two. For those of you joining us live today,
thanks for taking time out of your evening to be here.
I am your host, Tamara, and I love a good
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Welcome, Lisa, Hey, Tamra, Hey everyone. My name is Lisa Orbin.
I am an author. I am also the founder of
Indies United publishing house, and I love all things pop culture.
So if you would like to connect with me online,
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Author or at Indies United pub Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
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(01:29):
right Lisa.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Oh, absolutely, Tamra. This is a conversation, not a dissertation.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Exactly, no scene by scene breakdowns here. We jump around
and of course huge spoiler alert for everything in the
world through yesterday's episode. If you're cool with that, this
is the place for you and we should just jump
right on in. But officially, before we start, I do
want to say I know that there was like a
leak somewhere and a lot of people have seen all

(01:55):
of the episodes already.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Did you know that, Lisa, No, I've been trying to
avoid spoilers.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah. So with that said, if you hear us, you
know say we think something's gonna happen that's wrong, and
you know it's wrong, don't say anything toil it for everyone,
don't spoil it, just keep it to you know, yesterday's episode,
and you know before we appreciate you guys, I know
that's hard to do if you've seen everything.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
What's streaming? Where do they find all the episodes? You know?

Speaker 1 (02:27):
I don't know. I just heard from a couple of people,
like other creators, that other people had, you know, seen
all the videos. And I know one of our listeners
has seen all of the episodes, okay, so and so
I know she's not the only one. It's probably a

(02:48):
bunch of people that have seen all the episodes. So well.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I can't say that I haven't ever been tempted to
watch ahead, but I do try. I've always try to
meetainly strict strictly maintained to know we're only watching up
to now, because you know, I want to.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, that's how I feel like. I do get the
temptation to try. I probably could easily find the episodes,
to be honest, I know what to do to find them,
but I'm not gonna seek them out, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
I do, I absolutely do. Yeah, And if we weren't
doing the show, you know, I might have been one
of those people that would, oh but again or for
the show's sake, I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Stuff. Yeah, we're good. We're being good. And also heads
up since for the live listeners, if something funky happens,
I'll be back. I don't know what's going on my internet.
Right before we hit record, literally like two minutes before
my entire house, the internet just went completely out. I
don't know what happened. We don't know why. So I'm like, oh, God,

(03:58):
hopefully this isn't the omen And it was a one
time deal.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah I did that yesterday, but it was my cat.
Oh it unplugged my router.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Oh no, well we don't have any pets to blame
it on. So no, let's just hope it's all good. Okay,
Episode two, What did you think?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Well? I would like to say that I did say
that Carol was gonna make Ash stay at the plane,
and she did.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
She and I said, oh, she's gonna somehow get tangled
up with Jane and that's how she's gonna find Daryl,
and she did.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Did.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, we kind of guessed a couple things correctly.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
We weren't watching ahead, guys, I swear, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Now, one thing I did not guess is you know,
we kind of knew, you know, the little boy would
be kidnapped, but we didn't know it was gonna be
an inside job.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I knew it was going to be an inside job.
I knew it. But I thought they were going to
like take him on premises that this was some I
thought this was going to be part of Laurent's test
as well as Darryl's, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh, so you thought it was supposed to be like
a little nice past fail no deaths included.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
No, I mean I thought that they were gonna like
whisk him away and put him in some place dangerous
and Lawren was going to have to survive on his
own and you know, to try and get back to him,
or you know, again a test for Daryl to be
his protector because the father has been kind of encouraging

(05:47):
Darryl to stay.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, because they think that if he leaves, then they'll leave,
you know.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Right, And you know, so I figured that the part
of that was is they wanted to him. They thought
Daryl would be a good protector for him, but apparently no,
they wanted to get bitten.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, which is absolutely asinine and totally culty. You know. Oh, yeah,
they just really believe that because when he was born,
his mother was already turned. That means that he won't turn.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, I guess as the basis of this whole cult
is that he's why he's the chosen one, right, which
I guess until yes, up until they mentioned that, I
never really I knew it was about his mom turning
and then him surviving. I didn't realize it was going
to be, you know, the last of us kind of

(06:47):
Oh they're immute.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah. And honestly, that happened like right before the kid
was born, So I'm like, I don't know how quickly
that would have affected the unborn baby because it literally
happened right before there was no time, right, So I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And she did turn quickly, she did, oh yeah, and
she did turn before they had him completely out. But yeah,
I don't think their plan is gonna work out quite
like they were hoping.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm sure there's gonna show up and he's gonna be
a little pissed.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh yeah, he's gonna come in there yank the little
child out of there before they have a chance to
have It's probably gonna be in the nick of time
before he's betten, because well, I can't believe they would
let the Walkers bite him.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
When I was watching the the previews for next week,
it's it's almost as if they're trying to rationalize with
him why they need to do this.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh, they want his permission? Yeah, okay, I mean.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I mean that's kind of what the The indication of
the with the previous for next week indicated that there
was going to be a conversation between Daryl and the
father about why this is necessary. Of course, it could
just end with Daryl shooting in the head too. We
don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
So I do wonder though, what would cause them Well,
I guess they would have a conversation. If Daryl got
in there and rescued him, then they would probably try
to have a conversation with him.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's whack. Don't do it. The child's a child. There's
no guarantee. That's too big of a risk. Why I
would give you that to someone?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I mean, it would be one thing if you know
he was if this was an accidental thing and he
didn't turn, then they're like, ooh, a miracle. But they
don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, and I think their theory is wrong because, you know,
think back to fear Right, Alicia was bitten and she
had the fever and everything. The thing almost got you know,
we thought for sure she was going to turn and
she was like in this state of in between or
you know, almost dying constantly. Yeah, for a long time.

(09:19):
And she survived it. Well, I think she survived it.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, But then again, she also whacked off her own arm.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
She did. She did. But the question, you know, maybe
not soon enough. I don't know, but obviously yeah, because
they walked away at the end. So let's just assume
she happily ever after, right, I think I just think
the theory is wrong. I understand why they might believe
that might be possible, But what about science? Can we

(09:51):
talk a little science before we just get all ultra
religious and just have Walker's bit children? Can I do that?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
I mean there's actually because they could test the blood
to find out if it's infected or not. Yeah, And
I mean they could, I don't know, take a blood
sample and see what happens when zombie blood's introduced to it.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I mean, there's someone in that group that has something
to do with school and science. I'm sure they have
a little bit of everybody you know.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Actually, no, actually, what the best way to find out
is everyone else on the planet carries the virus, they
could test him to see if he has the virus.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh yeah, I mean if he wouldn't they mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
If he doesn't have the virus, then you know, then
he's special.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, I mean, I'm sure they're going to make it
seem like he's well. I don't know. I don't want
to predict, but I have a sinking suspicion that it's
just people trying to make their situation feel better and
it's not a reality. He actually could turn and I
think they're just gonna run away. Honestly, I feel like

(11:05):
there's no way that this show is actually gonna let
them turn this kid into a zombie, right, because that's
what would happen. I feel strongly.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Oh I do too, you know, looking at the this
is I had a conversation today with someone that talking
about conspiracy theories and how they are very comforting to
some people because it allows them to find some kind
of order that, while it doesn't exist in reality, to

(11:37):
make sense of their trauma.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Okay, I can understand that.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And I think that's kind of what's going on here.
This is a I mean, it's essentially a conspiracy theory.
You know, it is a theory without any basis, but
it allows them to assign some kind of rationale or
order to a situation which has no real rationale or order. Right,
but it gives people a feeling of being more in control,

(12:06):
even if they're not right. And and so this poor
kid is probably gonna you know, they're gonna use this
poor kid as a pawn to uh, you know, try
and test that conspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah. And I mean they're willing to kill their own
people over it.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah. Oh and the father, I mean he really was mad, Yeah,
he was. He didn't do anything to her, No, he's weak.
I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
He could have done there could have been some consequence
when he found out what had happened.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Right, he could have absolutely denounced what she did. You know,
she could say, he could say that, you know, this
is not the kind of people we are. But in
sad he's just like, we shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And then that was it, Like go somewhere and sit
down or something. What good are you? That's insane.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean he didn't even put her in time out
or anything.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, she should have been banned, like you're you're out
of here, like across the line. You've gone too far,
you know.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
For you know, that was a little she was a
little blood thirsty considering she's supposed to be a child
of God there.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Well yeah, yeah, but you know, oh I know, uh
huh yeah. But I honestly I thought that part of
the story was actually good for this week because we
needed a little bit more screen time with Darryl. So
we got that by kind of focusing in on them
a little while. And you know, it picked up literally

(13:41):
exactly you know, where the last season left off, you know,
last time, So it kind of felt like it was
really cohesive and everything kind of just gelled, and I,
you know, I was like, okay, I'll take it. I'm
okay with it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, And I mean we talked last week about oh
God of kidnapping, but this actually I did like this.
This was I think I thought the way they did
it was well done. It wasn't it wasn't some you know,
side group that kidnapped them or you know, some long
drawn out thing. I mean, you know, by the end
of the episode, we knew what was going on. Everyone

(14:17):
knew what was going on.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Right, And that's why it worked. It worked for one.
I think it worked because it was from inside your
own house, right, that type of thing, and like you said,
we knew what was up. It didn't drag on for
three episodes. Yeah, like let's hold, let's look for a
Laurent type thing. That would have been a disaster. So
this was a really quick, you know, turn of events

(14:41):
and resolution coming. And it worked in this case because
that is like a trope I really hate.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's a funny. Did you watch the after the scenes stuff?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Just a little, but I was really half paying attention.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
So okay, I was laughing because that scene with Darryl
and whatever name is kissing apparently it's sunset, the bugs
come out really really mad hair.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, his hair was flying, and I guess.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Bugs are like flying into their mouths and yeah, trying
to do this whole scene and I'm dying. I'm like,
oh man.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
That sounds awful. And maybe that is why it looked
a little awkward.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, and I because I noticed, because it looked a
little stiff. It looked a little you know. I'm not
going to say they were repulsed by each other, but
like something was bothering them. Okay, if I'm being swarmed
by bugs. This would probably bother me.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
That would probably do it. You know, we're sitting out
here and it's just nasty and the bugs and the
wind's blowing and creezy hair is in his face. He
talked about it being in his face. Yeah, yeah, that
wouldn't be very fun, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And oh I could think of is why didn't they
just do that at dawn? Yeah, they could have just waited.
I mean, I don't maybe the sun wouldn't be in
the right place or whatever. But I'm just saying it dawn,
while there's bugs, there's not as many as there are
in the evening.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
You know, the actors go through so much to get
these shots. I really like feel bad for them. I'm like, ew,
that's so gross.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
So yeah, I'm like, you know what, whatever awkwardness was
in that kiss, I absolutely forgive them for it, and
everyone else should too, because they had bugs flying into
their noses and mouths.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, so let's assume that we're gonna get another scene
out of them before it's all said and done, at
least one more. I hope that one looks a lot
better visually.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
A little more comfortable.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Me too, like they actually really like each other kind
of thing, you know, a little more like two regular
people and not like someone who's actually a nun trying
to kiss someone or something.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
And right, because I know, because I had and I'm
sure you'd seen it too throughout the the last well
especially the last episode in this one, the two of
them had a comfortable familiarity with each other. And again,
but when that kiss happened, I'm like, man, they look

(17:25):
a little stiff and a little awkward.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
And then when I was listening to the after the
after scenes, like like, okay, and it all falls into
place now and it makes absolute sense.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, it does. It definitely helped. And they probably said
we have to explain that because they know it looked
not that great. Mm hmmm. They're like, we have what
we have. We have to explain it now. We're not
redoing it.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Because I I went up to Canada one year and
I didn't I really, because I was going up to
the Arctic Circle. I you know, I think when you
think of bugs, you think of the south. You're the equator.
Oh no, oh god, They're awful. And in the evening
they would get so bad. I mean, they would just
like fly to your face and all and you just
run for cover. So I understand exactly how they feel

(18:16):
being swarmed, And I'm like, I I don't if I
had been them, I would have looked at the director
and when we're doing this later in the morning, after
you dowsle us with bug spray. Wow, we're gonna bug
bomb this entire area.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
You know. One thing I noticed about I guess this
is the first time I think Darryl has had a
new relationship that actually did cross over into actually being romantic.
The reason why I say this is like I think
about like Connie for example. Right, they clearly had something

(18:59):
going on, but we ever got a kissing scene out
of them.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
No, we didn't. I mean you could see the care
and consideration between the two of them, but she never
saw any physical affection.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Right, it didn't actually go there. And of course the
other relationship was old, right, so that's not new.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Oh my gosh, I wonder what. I wonder how mad
the Carollers are?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh, you know they're made.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
But not really, she's not, do you guys remember last
season she's got an not.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Really, I mean, she put on the outfit she played,
she played a role.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
You know that's it.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, and uh yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Think it's Yeah, they're they're probably mad. I don't really care.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think it's hilarious. I love it. It's so funny
to me. But yeah, so good. Good for them. I'm
curious see where this relationship goes, you know, or will
he kind of flake out and not work out what's
gonna happen here?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yo, Oddly, this may be the healthiest relationship he's had.
Weirdly enough. Yeah, you know, she's you know, she's not
a woman in distress. I mean she's in distress, don't
get me wrong, But I mean she's not helpless.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
But you know, I kind of wonder though, is it
really real or is it kind of because you know,
he's kind of taken on the runt as like a
surrogate center or whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, he does it a lot of children.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Is it because you know, package deal in all? Or
does he really really like her?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
You know, I don't know. I kind of saw the
sides of him liking her last season, but because she
was a dud or he thought she was a dud.
He was being respectful, but I did notice he was
starting to give her the same kind of consideration he
had been giving to Connie m hm. And and if

(21:11):
she had continued to be a nun, I think he
would have been he would have continued that, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
She had to make the mover. They would have been
friend zoned forever, exactly, because that's not his character. I
feel like to do it. I don't know, he's not.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I mean, he can be bold, but not when it
comes to relationships. Now, shooting someone you know he's your guy, yeah, exactly,
And in some ways he does. He does do grand
romantic gestures in a weird post apocalyptic way. But yeah,

(21:53):
he's not the he would not he in every relationship
he has never taken the first step.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
He's definitely a beta, definitely a beta kind of guy.
And that's okay, Yeah, that's okay, you know somebody for everybody,
that's right, okay, cool? What else anything?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
So there? No? I mean, well, I mean the baseball
scene was kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh yeah, it was, and like it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And apparently Laurent had the character. The actor that plays
him had never actually hit a ball with a bat
prior to this scene.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Oh no, and uh, I guess they.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Had to take like five hundred shots of your hitting
the ball. But he did eventually get fairly good at it.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know, I can't have been hate on the kid,
because I'd be equally as bad. I'm not gonna lie
like I feel like, uh miss miss miss miss no. No,
can't do it like someone just put it together, like
I actually hit it. Someone cut it.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
So I mean he did. And that scene with him
hitting the ball, he really did do it, but it
took quite a few takes.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
That's fine. Well you could tell, you know, that they
were out there for a long time, and the show,
you know, it may seem like they were out there
for a while before he got it.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
And I like that because you know, this is someone
who had never done it, and Daryl was teaching him how,
and so if he'd hit it out of the park,
so to speak, as soon as it happened, I don't
think it would have been as fun to watch.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Right, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
And and Harold's there with it's okay, I have another ball.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, it's good, no worries.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, you know, I have another ball.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
What about Leah like not knowing anything about American baseball?
I guess that's possible.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I mean, it's not like it's going to be much
of a subject during the apocalypse.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I know, but you know, she was full ass adult.
I don't know. Maybe I thought everyone knew about American football,
I mean baseball.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Excuse me, well, I mean there's probably awareness of it,
but it's not a big sport over there.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
No, it's not, because we only played like this here.
So yeah, m hmm. I was a cute scene though.
They had a couple of cute things, like I really
do believe you know that Laurent really thinks of Darryl
as like a parental figure, you know what I mean.
And he would be yeah, and he would follow him

(24:27):
if Darryl loved he'd want to chase after him. Again,
Well I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
I mean, well he did actually chase after Darryl.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, that's why I said again he'd do it again.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, he do it again.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
He would, And now this time, you know, it's a
excuse me. She's like, yeah, I'm out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Well, you know, after she found out that they had,
you know, set it up. You know that whole mission
there was to essentially kill off Darryl and make it
look like an accident.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah, that was her last straw she's like, Okay, after
thinking about it, you know, dipissant or whatever. She said, Yeah,
you know things, if I got a new perspective, yeah,
I'm gonna leave.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Well, and up to that point, she would have done
everything she could have to keep Laurent there. Then again,
she also doesn't know about the biting ceremony.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, she hasn't heard about that yet.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
And I'm wondering how many people are actually aware of it,
because that seems like an awful big secret to keep,
you know, away from her.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
So I'm guessing everyone knows there's some kind of ceremony,
but no one knows exact. Only a select few know
exactly what the ceremony is.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, it's going to confirm our faith.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
It's all they know, right, So yeah, I gotta believe
that a lot of adults wouldn't be okay with that.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I would hope not, right.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Can you imagine them all standing around and like Garb
watching this, like is an actual ceremony? Oh, that would
be so awful.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well, and it also explains why the the Father didn't
want Darryl to be teaching him how to protect himself
from zombies.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I know, like, we don't want him to fight them.
I want them to just get bitten exactly, and this
instinct will be to fight them and kill them. M yeah,
like one would do an apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Right as one is wont to do.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Oh my gosh. Well that's an interesting storyline I'm curious
to see. So along with that, you know, we kind
of get to see Carol's side of things again. And
Carol and Ash, they they are a good team. I

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like them.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
And you can tell every time Ash brings up her daughter,
she feels skilled. Oh she's that the last time, right
before she left him at the plane.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
She's gonna tell him the truth?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh I know. She took a deep breath and a
half step back. Yeah. I'm like, oh she's no, No, she's.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Not gonna tell No, she's not going to but the
guilt is there. It definitely is. And I think after
that wild Shenanigan fiasco in Greenland, Oh yeah, that was
some crazy stuff. I'm like, it's some.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
And these women were like scientists, right, they were scientists.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, climate clientologists.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah. And the one chick is like we have to repopulate.
Oh my god, what do you gotta do? Like just
keep him there? It's like some kind of we're not
just hoping they will be able to talk him into it.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, you know, I suppose. Well, and it's interesting that
they decided that Carol had to die, yeah, you know,
because they were really interested in, you know, restarting the population.
More is better.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, they try to talk her into it as well.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
But you know that's not the route they decided to take.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
No. And so did you Okay, so when Carol was
talking to the one woman and she's like, oh, I'll
take that drink, I'm like, don't drink or eat anything
that woman gives you.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Oh, I know. But did you also notice Carol fell
right back into the Susie Hobaker.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
She did. She did, And I'm like, okay, well she's
kind of aware, but she still let that woman touch
that weapon. And I'm surprised she did that.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well, I think she was trying not to be do
anything alarming. But she also pulled something off the table.
But I didn't quite see what Carol grabbed.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, I didn't see it either.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Something black, but she she took something off. She she
had a you know, she had a plan in mind.
I'm not sure what that plan was. We never got
to see it. But the one thing that out of
that whole thing that I found really interesting is that
so when the two Carol and the other the survivor

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surviving woman are walking back and she's like, oh, I
can't wait to try out my friendship blah blah blah blah,
and as shoots her yeah, and then he's like Carol.
He looks at Carol and he's like, she was going
to kill you. And Carol didn't miss a beat.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
She was yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I mean, she she knew that wasn't the case, but
she wasn't going to She wasn't going to add to
his burden.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
And honestly, I don't know if I really believed that
Carol really would let her come with them the whole way,
Like I didn't. I just didn't believe that she would
let that woman in the plane with Yeah. After that,
I think she seemed like she wanted to be empathetic
about that situation she was in, and she definitely talked

(30:09):
her into changing her mind essentially, But I still don't
one hundred percent believe that Carol actually meant that. I
don't know why, Like I expected her to like push
her out the plane or something, crazy. I don't know, Yeah,
because she's such a her character is so consistently inconsistent. Yeah,

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like does she mean this or is she planning something.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
I'm sure Carol was planning something because you know, she
you know, she didn't trust her. But at the same time,
I mean, now, she could have Carol being Carol. She
probably could have killed her on the way back, but
she didn't want to take the chance. And I don't

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think that she was heartbroken that the woman died.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
No, she wasn't. She like, yep, she wasn't gonna kill me, let's.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Go, let's go, you know. And she never she didn't say,
oh no, she you know, we killed the other woman.
She didn't say he doesn't even know the other woman's dead.
She didn't say what happened or why she was walking
back with this woman or anything.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
See. I think that's because she does like Ash, you know,
she thinks he's a good person. And I think it's
partially maybe because she just didn't want him to feel
bad about killing her. Right, So I'm not going to
tell you anything about that. You're right, let's go, Because.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
If she had said no, she wasn't actually going to
kill kill us. You know she was wanting to come
back to friends. She killed her friend, you know, to
save the two of us. She was not going to
do that. It was just yep, she was gonna kill us.
That's it, let's go.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Exactly, especially after finding out that was the first time
he killed a live person. Yes, there's no way I
wouldn't tell him like I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Said, oh crap, she she was on our side.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
She flipped. She wasn't actually gonna do it. He would
have been so sad.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah. Yeah, And so I'm with Carol on that absolutely.
I mean, because he would have just he would have
broken down if he knew that Carol had managed to
flip her to their side and everything else. So oh yeah, she.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Did the right thing. So they made it all the
way to France, which I still have a hard time
believing that rickety thing made it. But okay, sure they're there.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I mean, the the showrunners did say. We asked and
they said it was improbable but not impossible.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Right, so they want us to believe the almost impossible.
So just just enough probability that it could happen to
I guess, be okay with it, which I am. They
made it and Carol, she says, hey, you stay here
with the plane. She does not want him leaving and
coming with her, and probably it's partially because she doesn't

(33:15):
want to reveal what she's actually doing, and also because
he really needs to gather the gas to go back.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Oh yeah, I mean they can't exactly be hauling around,
you know, twenty gallons or twenty tanks and gas or whatever.
So she's like, no, you stay here, you get the
plane fixed up, you get it ready to go, you
start looking for gas, YadA, YadA, YadA, I'll go look
for my daughter. Right and legitimately, even if if she

(33:46):
was actually looking for her daughter, that is a plan
that does actually make sense.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Right, it does. It doesn't make sense for both of
them to go, especially, like she says, she could take
care of herself, and she generally can. But even though
she had a couple of moments where she needed to
be rescued, you know, in the last couple episodes. Yeah,
but yet in general she can't take care of herself.
You know, she's a big girl. She can handle it.

(34:12):
So she doesn't need assistance from someone who hasn't been
out as much as she, As she pointed out, like
you're kind of a newbie out here, so it's not
gonna help me.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Right, So just kind of people and fix the plane
and you know, find the gas.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
And that's also a cool way for his character not
to be murdered immediately exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
M hm. Although he's gonna be really surprised when that
daughter comes back looking like Darryl.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, I know, Darryl, his girlfriend and a kid in tow.
That's not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
There's no way they could all get on that plane.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
No, not at all, not even a little bit. And
she did tell him if I'm not back in two weeks,
you should go. But he's not gonna go.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
He said he wouldn't, right, And Ash's a good man,
and you know, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
For him, and.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean that plane could probably handle
one more person maybe.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
So you know, in Carol's mind, you know, it's okay.
If I can get Daryl to come back, I can
think of an excuse. I can figure it out. Once
he's presented with the situation, she could even say this
is my husband. My daughter died.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
She could say that, but I don't think you know, Isabelle,
but would be like, okay.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Right, Well, No, I'm just saying if she went and
found Darryl and it was just Daryl, okay, yeah, because
she doesn't know anything about anything.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Else, right, you're right, So.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
She could always cut. Like I said, if push came
to shove, she can always say to Ash, this is
this is my husband. My daughter did die. We're gonna
bring him back.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Although I think her original lie was I sent my
husband sent her to be No, she said the husband
was with her, didn't she.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Okay, she did.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, she took her to go see his family or something,
and she told him yep, yep, Well that could work.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
He could have, except you know, now he's got two
more people.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I know there's not enough space.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
There's not enough space.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, he thought we're gonna bring back one woman right
when he a child anymore? Yeah? Yeah, I still haven't.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Actually I guess it would be, wouldn't she.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, I still have. I'm still like, not one hundred
percent sure with the timing. I feel like it's been
cleared up, but when I just think about it without
looking at the timeline, I'm still not one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
She'd probably beat her early twenties.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I think that's what I would think like, because it's
been long enough.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean Judith went from you know, a baby
to you know, teenager. So yeah, she'd probably be in
her twenties.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, if she had lived. Yeah, So that was interesting.
But I did like how you know, we got to
see Carol's like tracking skills put in the effect. I'm like, oh,
look at her being so smart. She just left the
trail for her to follow.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, the corn.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, She's like, I'll just follow you and just eat
my apple. I don't have to rush. But then again,
she's like in this same spot, and I felt bad
for her. She's like, cannot understand anything they are saying.
She does not speak French.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
I know, and as she did have a good point,
I do speak French. And you know, and if the
one other woman had come along, she might have said, okay,
as she stay here at the plane, I'll take the woman,
you know, because she both could speak French and she can't. Yeah,
but we have learned because Daryl doesn't speak any French.

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So there's enough people that do speak English.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yes, and she did fall, you know, sit next to
one guy who spoke English pretty and she found out
pretty quickly. You know, he tries to introduce himself, and
she's speaking in English to him and he says, oh,
you know, I was an English teacher or something, he said, right,
so you know, yeah, there are lots of people, especially
when you're close to Paris, right, a lot of people

(38:27):
speak English there. And uh.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
And again we know for the previews for next week
that Janine does actually notice Carroll, Oh, I can take
you to Darryl. Oh, I'll bet you can, you know. Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
And she's probably thinking this is great bait, bring him
bright in. Oh yeah, but she doesn't know who she's
dealing with. She does not, It's got no clue.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh, because again we know that she's gone, she's fallen
into the Sussi homemaker. And and Janine, I don't even
think it's going to question how she got there, how
what it took for her to get there, to travel
there alone. Carol just has a way of silently effacing herself,

(39:18):
you know, from feeling threatening. She doesn't you know. Now,
she can give off the absolute threatening vibe, you know,
she's done that. But when she doesn't, but she can
turn that off and she can just feel look so helpless.
And so I don't think Janina's is going to be

(39:43):
prepared for what Carol is.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
No, she's going to be in for a world of heart. Probably.
I'm sure Carol will jure her in some kind of
way before she's done with it or before she runs away.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Because here's the thing. The fact is is of the
two of the Darryl is the nicer between her and
between him and Carol.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
He is the nicer. He's a little more I don't
want to say restrained, because it's not the right word.
He's not quite as bloodthirsty.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
And not as quick to act sometimes. Like I think
about in last episode, he had an opportunity to kill her,
but he waited right and then the opportunity got away
from him. I would have seen her and shot her immediately,
and Carol would have, right, Carol would have, and I'm like,
why did he not do that? So, but you know
Carol won't make that same mistake. The minute she gets

(40:41):
a chance to kill her, she will so.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
And again I'm not there. I am not implying in
any way that Darryl is soft, because he's not. He's
just not as bloodthirsty as Carol is.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
That's a way to put it. He's not bloodthirsty.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Okay, yeah, well and I can even and and here's
the thing. So from Carol's unique perspective, she started off
on the show as a victimized domestic you know, abuse victim,
so she knows how bad people can be. And again,

(41:24):
I mean, it's not that Daryl didn't have a good
it's not that he had a great upbringing or anything,
but he was never quite as much of a victim
as she was, never quite as helpless at what as
she was at one point. And I don't think Carol
will ever let anyone have that kind of power over

(41:44):
her again. So she's she's a little quicker to kill,
she's a little less forgiving. She's you know, faster to
make us, you know, to make these these decisions than
he is.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah, he's kind of like I kind of feel like
he's the soldier and she's like the intelligence officer. Like,
you know, she's one up him in a couple of ways,
you know, about how she thinks about things. And it
just puts, like you said, her mindset is just different.
So yeah, and he can do the task, you know, but.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, you know, he is a very you know, when
the need is called upon, he can. He can do
the things very well.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
But Carol I think takes a little more joy in
her work.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
I don't know if i'd use joy, but she definitely
is no.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Enthusiasm. Maybe it's a little more enthusiasm for her work.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Maybe that, But I know she's a no nonsense kind
of person. If something needs to be done, she'll just
do it right. Yeah, and there's no mulling over it
and considering you just do it.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Right, I mean. And the two defining moments for Carol,
you know, and in the difference between her and Darryl
when you know, when she told the one little girl
to look at the flowers and then shot her in
the head. She did it without hesitation. Okay, Daryl would

(43:27):
have been devastated because he had been taking care of
these kids.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
He wouldn't have done it. I feel like he would
have something else would have had to happen. I can't
imagine Daryl would have done it. I think he's too soft,
tireded to have done it.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I think he would have done it, but he you know,
you know, because he's the one that actually killed her daughter,
the one that shot her.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, but that was in Marcy because she was already turned.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Right, and he might have had to wait until she
had actually turned before he could do it. And the
other scene is her making the cookies. Yeah, and making
the veiled threat to the kid.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Yeah, and don't forget she also went off and killed
all those people. What season was that? I can't remember.
She like went off and just killed a bunch of
people that were sleeping and set the police on fire. Yeah,
you know she's a killer. That is something I would
apply to her and not Darryl.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah. I mean she can be kind, she can be loving,
she can be generous and affectionate, affectionate, but the one
thing that Carol does not have is mercy.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Well, keep are asleep with one eye open around her.
If you've done something, you better not look away because
he'll get you.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Oh, you're right, Karina, it was Rake that puts down Sophie.
I swore it was Darryl because he was there, he
was near her. Oh it's been a long time. That
was season three Cheryl.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Put down Dale. Okay mm hmm, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
That's right, you're right. Do you all right? Karan? I
gotta ask you just have a notebook or do you
just have excellent memory? Because season three was so long ago.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
I guarantee you she's got a memory. She remembers everything.
That's her memory. But yeah, I love that we have
our own Walking Dead encyclopedia as a friend of the show.
We appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
We really do.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah, you help us out a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
But yeah, I but like I said, yeah, Carol doesn't
have mercy. I mean that's the one thing she doesn't
have and Darryl does. Darryl has forgiven when he should
not have. Even she remembers, Yeah, Carria just said she
remembers let me go. But yeah, because when when Darryl

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found out that the woman he had been with was
a soldier and he had the opportunity to kill her
to mitigate a lot of this, he didn't. You know,
he has mercy, which isn't always the best thing. Carol
wouldn't have done.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
That, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
So yeah, they're they're two distinctly different. I mean, they
work really well together, but it's because they each have
different strengths and and so they they're a good team.
And Janine is going to be a little shocked. I
believe she shut he reencounter with with the Carol at
the end.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Oh yeah, she already knows that Daryl can't best her.
I think she knows this, but once she finds out
that this little older woman is also going to best her,
she's gonna lose it. I mean she's probably gonna have
some kind of reaction right before she dies.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Oh yeah, she's not gonna You can't do this kind
of reaction.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
I'm telling yelling that people kill them and take them
away and I'll be dead.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
So I gotta tell you, I am actually looking forward
to seeing the one on one between Carol and Jeanine.
I think it's going to be funny. Not ha ha funny,
but I think it's going to be amusing to watch.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I think so too. I think once she figured well so,
you think she'll know immediately that I see this American
and obviously she knows Darryl. Or you think she's gonna
hear her talking to that one guy who they've been
beating half to death and then figure out that that's
who she's looking for.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Yeah there, I mean, at this point, you know, Darryl
is firmly brainded into her brain. And if she if
she overhears Carol talking to him or one of the
guards say, hey, this woman's asking for about Darryl and
and the fact that she's in the prison tells me

(48:22):
that she probably did ask the wrong person the wrong thing.
So so yeah, it'll be I think it'll be interesting
because Janine's gonna do her best to manipulate Carol, and
Carol's going to go along with it, no knowing full
well what's going on.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, I think so I would agree with that. But
the nineteen people that came with Carol, you think I
think they were just going to experiment on them, you
think so? Yeah, I don't think they actually wanted people
to work for them. I think they wanted more people
to do the you know, test or whatever they were

(49:04):
doing could be.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I was I was assuming that's what the other truck
was for.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Oh, like they had two trucks and they were like,
oh no, you over here. They put her in a
different one. Yeah, like maybe the smart people and the
dumb people.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Well no, because remember the one guy said his husband
had lung problems. So I'm wondering if they were taking
the unhealthy people.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Oh and one truck and then okay.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
That's interesting that that was my assumption.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Hmm. Well, I guess we'll find out. Probably, I'm guessing
we'll find out what they intended for those nineteen people,
because they were originally looking for twenty but they brought
back nineteen. Yeah hmm, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
So you get a.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
Little food and then they're like volunteer and people are
like yeah, I'm like, oh gosh, okay.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well because it's still I mean, they do need they
need they need strong, stronger people. And the one woman
was like, oh no, not this truck. That truck. Because
she seemed to be impressed with Carol, and because she
she knocked out one of their guys.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I think she thought she she was impressed with her,
not only because she knocked the guy out, but because
she was just gonna sneak in the truck, like she
wasn't like fighting for it with all those people. I
think she thought she intended to sneak into the truck, right.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
And uh So, I think they're kind of like the
a's and b's. I think they're continuing the a's and
b's mm hmm. And and Carol, I think the other
truck with the the sicker, the unhealthier, we're putting that truck.
And I think they're the ones that are gonna get

(50:48):
experimented on that. Again, I could be wrong, but I
don't think they'd want a whole bunch of unhealthy people
just hanging around, because that would be that would be
a drain on them.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, I would. I can that totally. So what some
of them are gonna be soldiers and whatever, and some
of them are experiments.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
And I think the truck that that turned off, they're
the experiments. And I think and I think because you know,
Carol's not being shy about asking about Darryl. Of course
she doesn't know his reputation there at this point, but
she's gonna find out real quick. But this will expedite
her being able to find Darryl.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I definitely will. It's gonna just like she's gonna be
served up like, hey, I got your You're someone who
knows you, don't you want to come get her? And
it's gonna be some kind of thing. It's gonna be
a thing.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, except I'm still thinking of that. In the in
the teaser trailers that they had before the season started,
they kept showing Darryl standing, you know, looking out, and
you see her step, you know, step up behind him
and go Darryl. And I'm sure they could use any

(52:00):
number of scenes for that, but I kind of feel
that Carol finds him on his own, on her own.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Maybe she just escapes or something.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
You know. I think she figures out a way to
manipulate Jeanine or even say, oh no, I'll bring him back.
You know, she could do that very convincingly.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Yeah, yeah, you know, anything could happen. Honestly, I'm not
really sure, but I think you have some good, solid guesses.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
They are guesses, guys, I swear to God, I'm not
I'm not washing ahead. Okay, I didn't find the secret stash.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Like I didn't. I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
I didn't do it. I'm just I'm good at guessing,
you know. So Yeah, and I will say, I really
did actually like this episode.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
I liked it better than the first one. Well good,
I did. I liked it. I don't really have any
complaints about it, to be honest, So.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I can tell because you didn't complain.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Yeah, that miracles do happen, they do.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
I was hoping that you because I did enjoy it.
I liked it a lot, you know, and my my
only the only thing I really I was wondering about
was h you know, that kiss between Darryl and what's
her name, And now that it's been explained by bugs,
I'm like, Okay, I get it, and and I and
I can I can get behind that.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
That's the only reasonable explanation because that was just rough.
It was.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
It was a rough kiss, man. But when they were
talking about bugs flying into their mouths and up their
noses and getting into their ears and flying into their
eyes and yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, there's just
no way that you can be romantic when you've got
bugs flying into your face.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yeah. I don't know what you'd have to think of
to turn on that, you know, to make that happen.
I don't know what you'd have to think of when
there are bugs all around you trying to attack you.
I just that's tough.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I couldn't have done it. I mean, straight up, I know,
because I've been in a position where I've been surrounded
by bugs like that, and I am telling you I
could not do it.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Gross.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I mean, but it's not even just even the gross pactor.
It's just when they hit you in you know, the
the the reaction that the hitting you in the face
and you brush turn back, probably you're back and you
want to brush them off of you, and you're you know,
kind of not and then you're looking around for the
bugs and trying to avoid them. Yeah, it's yeah, I

(54:38):
don't recommend it.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, how are your hands not just on constant flailing around?
And that's why bugs away?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Because he's got his hands stuffed in his pockets and
she's got hers firmly crossed. You're that whole scene.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Like trying not to move, don't move.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah, And I really look back at that scene. I
think that's because neither one were in a very natural
stance through that whole thing, you know, which gave it
that awkward feel and and and so yeah, I get it.
But like I said, I don't understand why they didn't say, okay, guys,
we're gonna stop this, and we're gonna do this at

(55:19):
dawn instead of dusk.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Look, they like to torture the actors.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
And because you really, if you don't know, sorry, if
you don't know east from west, sorry, you know, donner dusk?
It does? You know, people aren't gonna notice on TV.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
And I don't know. I think sunrise looks different than sunset,
even if you're not considering if it's East or West.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Yeah, I guess. But still it would have been so
much easier on these guys. Or again, if they had
bug bombed the play, you know, at least I don't know,
sprayed them down with bug spray or something. The guys,
I just feel so bad. I feel so bad for them.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Oh, those are the breaks, man, those are the breaks.
That's part of the job.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
They can do it, and that's what you get paid
the big bucks for it.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Exactly. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I mean, I guess if I was getting paid as
much as Darryl, I'd stand there and bugs.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Oh god, you know, I mean, that's what I mean.
I would too. I'm not having a lie. I would.
I would just deal with it. It'd be fine. It
wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Fine, but I would deal with so. Alrighty, I think
I think we're done. Are we done?

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Yeah, I think we're done. We covered all the highlights.
I think I'm excited for next week, so it should
be a good one. I'm hoping.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Fingers crossed, man.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Fingers crossed. So thank you to everyone who listened Live
Tonight special, thanks to Karina who commented during the live
and that's it today for today it's been a fun time.
Thank you again for listening to the entire episode. We
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