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Speaker 1 (00:48):
Hey everyone, Welcome to the Recap of the Walking Dead universe.
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are covering Darryl Dixon Season two subtitled The Book of Carol,
Episode three. For those of you joining us live tonight,

(01:09):
thanks for taking time out of your evening to be here.
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Speaker 2 (01:28):
Hey everyone. My name is Lisa Orban. I am an author.
I am also the founder of Indies United publishing house,
and I love all things pop culture and if you
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Speaker 1 (01:43):
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Speaker 2 (02:03):
Right, Lisa, absolutely, Tamor. This is a conversation, not a dissertation, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
No scene by scene breakdowns here. We jump around a lot,
and of course a huge spoiler alert for everything every
show in the world through yesterday's episode. So if you
are cool with that, this is the place for you,
and we should just jump right into.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It absolutely all right.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Episode three you liked it.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I did it, and I thought it was a good
balance between Darryl and Carol. Okay, yeah, I'd also like
to point out Carol continues to be a consummate liar.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
You know what her trick is. She hides the lie
with a little bit of truth. Oh yeah, so that's
how it's so believable.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I think one of my favorite scenes is when she's
sitting there with Janine and Janine's like, how did you
get here? And She's like, well, I flew in two
days ago. We made the stop in Greenland and these
two women try to take my pilot music as a
sperm donor, you know, just this olden and I'm like,
you know, when you put it like that, that just

(03:12):
sounds utterly ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It does sound ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's like, okay, and you could see Janine just like
processing processing. Okay, it might be true.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I don't, who knows.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I was just I just got such a because it
was all true. We know it's true, we watched.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
It, but it just sounds ridiculous, sounds ridiculous, absolutely, So
I did enjoy that part of it, and I even liked.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Janine's you know, more or less origin story, I guess,
you know, working at the Louver and her stealing the
Mona Lisa and watching her husband die, you know, right
there in front. I thought it was Actually it still
doesn't explain why she's you know, so bitchy.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
But I think that's part of my issue with her
origin story. I think sometimes I'm okay with people just
being bad, and sometimes when they make you try to
feel bad for them and be like, oh well, maybe
it's okay. You know, they try to make them not
a clear antagonist when they are right, And I wish

(04:28):
sometimes they wouldn't do that, you know sometimes.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean, here's the thing. This is a show where
every single person has lost at least one person, if
not every person they've known exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So that doesn't make you special. Every doesn't make you special.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, you know, it doesn't make you, you know, any
more sympathetic than you know the person is standing next
to her. Who you know, all those people sitting there
in the loop lost someone too. You know, they may
not have seen them die right in front of them,
but you know people have lost you know, they lost
parents or children, spouses, good friends. So you know, I

(05:14):
I it was kind of interesting to you know, because
I'm like, wow, she was a you know, she was
a janitor.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah, and look at her now.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Try to make a better zombie.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I mean, yeah, she's trying.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, definitely definitely trying. I'm not sure she's really succeeding
in that, but they are definitely trying.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, she's got like no scruples about it. She's just,
I don't know, kind of heartless. I feel like a
little bit about it. I don't know. I feel like
she thinks, just like you know, these other the other
side thinks they know what they're doing as well. Right,
they all thinks that they're doing something appropriate and the

(06:02):
other people are the looney tunes and they think she's
the crazy one.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
So, you know, I'm gonna be real truthful and I'm
gonna say these two factions are both looney tunes.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, in their own way, because what do they say,
like the villain is always the hero in their own
minds or something like that.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
They always everyone's the hero or their own narrative.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, they all think they're doing the right thing. And
that's coming from both sides at this point because the
others are crazy too, And while they're not going out
and murdering a lot full of people to make walkers,
they're still willing to sacrifice a child.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
So that's bad exactly, you know. I mean, Janine tends
to do a little more wholesale. M m. They're doing
it a little more retail. But you know, again, my
stand still remains, both sides of this conflict are looney tunes.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, I would agree, there's really no good side. I
guess there's bad and more bad, I guess.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
And you know, the the Religious Network did have some
some redeeming qualities, but the fact. But here's the thing
about if you have faith, you shouldn't have you shouldn't
have to see wonders to have that faith, because faith

(07:32):
means a belief in something without evidence. If you need evidence,
it's not faith.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
So you know, they say they have faith, but they're
now demanding proof and they want to sacrifice a child
to prove that faith. So that's not faith.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
That's well, that's how it turned from like a religious
group into a cult. Like what are you guys doing? Like, yeah,
you're right, faith, you wouldn't need to sacrifice a child
for that exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
You know, faith is toiling or doing good works diligently
without having concrete proof that what you're doing is you
will be rewarded for.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, even though they were so sure the bite nothing
would happen. But I don't think they were so sure.
I think they were just hoping right.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Well, and if they were so sure, they wouldn't need
If they were absolutely sure, they wouldn't have needed a demonstration.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah. And not only that, So that guy Losan, you know,
he's low saying or whatever he's supposed to be, Like,
I guess the best of them, right, he's not that bad.
He didn't know about some of the stuff going on,
but he's actually as bad.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
You literally take someone that the kid knows and cares about,
and you serve her up to bite him like that's heartless.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
And then they drugged him he wouldn't, you know, so
that he wouldn't fight. And and now we know why
they you know, they didn't want Daryl to teach him
how to defend himself.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Just stand here and get bitten. Yeah, just a good boy,
my god, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I I and and then to resort to torture, you know,
to get what they want, you know, never never a
good look.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, So.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I mean in a zombie apocalypse, I'm not gonna say
that I'm going to be a saint because I wouldn't be. Y'all,
y'all have been here for a while, you know that
I wouldn't be a saint. But I wouldn't pretend that
I was and then do these things.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Right, right exactly?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
You know? I mean, at least Janine is honest in
her unscrupulousness. I guess she makes no apologies for what
she does. You know, she's she's not hiding behind religion
or an excuse. I mean, she's kind of hiding behind
an excuse, but she's pretty straightforward. This is what I'm

(10:21):
going to do, you.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Know, Yeah, this is it. Get on get on the
get on my side, basically our house. And I mean
she actually, Janeika completely convinced those people that she they
were sacrificing themselves for a greater good and they're just
standing there waiting to just be shot, and She's like,
we've practiced, they're ready. I'm like what okay and okay, crazy.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I did, like, you know, starting that with that moment
with her and Carol looking at the Mona Lisa. I
really liked that moment between the two of them because
it neither one was letting down their masks, so to speak,
but there was that you could see some of Carol

(11:09):
and Jeanine and some of Jeanine and Carol.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not Carol is definitely the better
of the two people. And again it's not because Carol's
never done any bad things. I mean Carol has done
some things, yes she has, but at at her core,
Carol really does care about people, particularly her people, whereas

(11:40):
Janine doesn't honestly care about anything except for her goal,
and I think it. I also thought it was kind
of interesting because now she's like vive la people, you know,
resistance and so on and so forth. And when we
first meet her, they were having a there there were
supposed there were that group to do aro a strike

(12:05):
and she's like, what's the point.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, she's very different back then.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yah, there's no point in any of this. We're just
gonna do our thing. And I'm like, well, look at
how far you've come.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah. And I mean, honestly, so, even if Carol had
felt some type of you know, camaraderie with her, even
a little bit when she's in the car with Jenny,
she's looking at her. Did you see the look on
Carol's face as she's talking. She's looking at her like, okay, crazy,
you're crazy. Yeah, you know she knows it immediately.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, the sly I Yeah, she's looking at her.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Like, Okay, she gets there, they're out there. She's like,
oh my god, you're gonna you know, you're gonna turn
these people. And she's like yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I'm gonna turn you too, so you can go. You know,
you can kill Daryl.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I did. I was wondering because I'm like, man, I mean,
Carol is a good liar, don't get me wrong. I
mean even the way her delivery on you know, I'm
here to kill to kill him, you know, I mean
it was said with conviction. Yeah, but I thought, man,
Janie's really kind of you know, she's she jumped on

(13:21):
that train pretty fast or something else. And I've been
through that whole scene. I'm going, what is she going
to do? What is she gonna do?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
And then you know thing she wouldn't believe her. She
just went along.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, And I'm like, and you know, she kept her
in the car with her and and everything else. And
then and you can see Carol putting two to two together.
When they got to the thing. She's like, wait a minute,
we got the scientist here, we got guns. Okay, no
one else is armed. Hmm. This is strange.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
And then she and then the light bulb. You can
see where she just went.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Wait a minute, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
And Jenny's like, you said you want to kill Darryl
here you are?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, absolutely, I don't know. That was wild. And I'm
surprised Carol again. So she always seems to surprise me
because in one hand, she's very aware of how devious
people can be. He's very careful in some ways, but
then she gets a little comfortable in other ways with

(14:23):
strangers like that guy like he ware died you out,
like you taught like and of course he's gonna tell
I told her you know where in all of this,
and it just comes right on out. I'm like, she's
too comfortable in some ways, she's too overly confident sometimes.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah, well she I. As soon as I heard her
talking to that guy, I'm like, oh, that was a mistake.
You could have just looked it up on a map. Yeah,
absolutely could have. She could have just skid it out
of there and you know, or basically said I think
I knew where my friend is. I'm gonna go look
for him. I mean this, there are maps, or she

(15:07):
could have asked someone else on the road. I would
not have ever asked if I had been her, I
would not have said anything to anyone in that compound
for that reason.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Right Well, honestly, I'm surprised that she got I forgot
that guy's name, the guy who's being tortured, so she
gets it out of him. But this guy tolerated like
severe torture, and then he just tells her as soon
as she says, that's my brother, he's my last you know,

(15:38):
and he just gives it up. And I'm thinking, don't
aren't you concerned that she's a plant?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah? I know I thought that too.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
You're just gonna say, like, Okay, they just made that
plot device work. They're like, Okay, we need this to happen.
Let's just do it, even though it really didn't make
sense for someone like him, I think it would have
been harder for him to give it up.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
But yeah, I mean I I kind of thought that myself.
I'm like, huh, that's weird, because he's really been through
a lot of torture to keep this a secret.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
The only thing I could my my only reasoning for
it was she's obviously an American.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
But even she and Daryl aren't the only Americans in
the country.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
I know, Oh, I'm aware. Yeah, And I figure and
I knew Jeanine had had to think there was something
of the Carol's story as well, because Carol had initially
told her that, you know, she had gotten she was
there as a tourist and gotten trapped there, and yet
spoke almost no French.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I know, if you've been there that long, you'd speak
some French exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, I mean she has burgeour, you know, but really
you need a little more than that if you're going
if you've been there for ten years or so.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
M h. So, even if you have a horrible accent,
you'd be able to speak a little.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
You'd at least you'd at least have pigeon now. And
not granted there are a lot of English speakers, particularly
like around Paris and stuff, but as if you're going
to be in a country that long, you would eventually
pick up the language just because you were hearing it
so much.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, And honestly, in a state, in a situation where
you need to see what people are saying. They can
be said talking about you or doing something to you,
or you know, you need to understand exact that's priority.
Even if some people speak English, you can't just trust
what they tell you in English is what they're saying
in French, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I mean even Daryl, who's terrible with languages.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
He's.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know, he's picked up some yeah, so you know,
not not real conversational, but you know, like, well but
little say this, he does give it as all, because
I mean, he learned sign language, you know, and now
he's learning French, so you know, he really does put
in the effort for the women he likes.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Look, I was about to say his French was like
nails on a chalkboard, but he tried. And I assume
his sign language was also nails on a chalkboard, but
just with his hands, equally as bad. I'm sure. But
he tried.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know, you have to give him, you have to
give him an a for effort, because he really does try.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
But yeah, and but yeah, I thought it was I'm
kind of wondering because we know that Carol has has
learned to walk with the walkers m hm. And on
the previews, when everyone else was falling down shot, she

(18:58):
had her eyes open looking around. So I'm going to
assume she's unhurt.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, she looks unhurt. I would have sat down to
act like I was shot.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure because she does know how to
you she she is, she knows how to more. She
can't hurt him by herself, obviously, but she knows how
to walk with them. So as long as she stays
towards the middle of the group. I don't think Janini
realized she's actually alive.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Right, She's gonna assume that she's with the rest of them.
You know, I don't think she has any inclination of
how much Carol has the ability to do, you know
what I'm saying. So she's just gonna assume, yeah, she's dead,
she's over there.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, because as far as I can tell no one
that we haven't seen any group or any person that's
walked with the walkers in France. So I'm going to
guess that this is a regional skill or it may
have it just may not have ever occurred to them

(20:04):
to do so, right, And uh so, Yeah, I'm pretty
sure Carol's gonna roll herself in some blood and go,
you know, and stumble along.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
The only thing that might mess her up is if
they somehow inject a couple of them with those serums,
and you know, they're just not regular. We've got some
super kind of walkers in there.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
True, but I don't If they do, they'll probably do
it more towards the edges, not towards the centers, because
you know, they can't once they inject them. The reaction
seems to be almost instantaneous. So the scientists aren't gonna
want to be in a group of berserker, you know,

(20:53):
walkers with no protection.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, yeah, but you know, she's got a couple of
different formulas probably going to try to do you know,
with all her testing, she's probably not going to pick
something that she knows is too difficult for her to control.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
True, So I guess we're just gonna you know, my
assumption is as Carol is going to walk with the
walkers until she gets closer to the to the building, Yeah,
to the nest.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
That makes the most sense, honestly it does. I don't
know how she would get out of there without them
seeing her if she did something else.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
So yeah, but once they get closer, they get into
more of a wooded area, she'll be able to to
break off.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Look, if you're walking toward that place, there is no
wooded area. It's sand.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah. I thought I was when they were showing the
showing them going up into the castle, I thought that
there were some trees and some wooded areas there towards the.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I didn't see any when I was there. There are
just you.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Know, when when Darryl and and and they were trying
to get into the building. They were going up on
the rocks.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
It looked like there might be a couple spare random
trees around, but you know, it's water comes up, the
tide comes in.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, Well, I was just I was thinking there was
like a tree line above the rocks. I'm just saying
that that's what it looked like, you know from looking
at the screen.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, I don't know. I can show you my photos
and you can see there's nothing there.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
That's fine. I'm just think they could throw.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Them in there, you know, they'd like to do things
to their you know, for them to use. Who knows,
they might just make something up and put some in there.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I was listening to the uh they're talking about, you know,
during the after part uh after the show, and uh.
The actress that plays Janine was talking about how they
they had cleared out the loover and she had that
that moment alone with the Mona, Lisa and stuff, and
she's like, it's it was really kind of almost surreal

(23:06):
because this isn't something that most people have a chance
to have happened, you know, because there's always so many
people and it's a very crowded experience. And she said
it was just there was just really this and I'm like,
and I thought it was kind of cool if they
actually did film in the Louver itself. They didn't make

(23:27):
it set, they actually filmed it in the loop.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, they had some like the what do you say?
They only have like three days they could do it
three different days to pick from, so they had to
hurry up. They didn't have a lot of time.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, and then they had to be real careful with
things because you don't want to mess up any of.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
The you know, get fake blood on a painting or
something exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, you know, but I did think that was kind
of cool. You know, that would be a that would
be an experience I would very much like to have,
not the apocalypse, part of just being able to wander
through the Louver by myself.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I wonder how creepy that would feel.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Probably a little depending on where you were at there,
you know what, which section I mean, all.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
The empty halls and it's quiet and stuff. That was
feel really.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Weird probably, but it also is kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, but and but I guess we should probably talk
a little bit about you know, poor Darryl. You know,
I I there's this moment when they were dragging him
back in all beat up and they hang him. You know,
we're getting really close for beating him down. I'm like, dude,
you have no idea what this man has been through.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, he looked a little beat up. He looked a
little worse for wear.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So he looked a little worse for wear. But as
far as he's breaking down, Darryl, yeah, you know, considering
everything he went through with.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
With Megan, like that was just what I was gonna say.
I'm sure there's no way that they did more than
what Megan did to him. There's no way.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
You know this this I'm not saying it's a great
life skill to have, but at this point, Darryl, you know,
has some experience in being tortured.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
He definitely does.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, and you know he has the fortitude of course.
You know, now he's he's all upset about his lady
love and being taken away. I'll take it to Laurent.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Oh. Yeah. So even they went into tortured Isabelle a
little bit, which I'm surprised. I'm like, well, you know,
she was one of you, why would you torture her?
But I guess, you know, anything to figure out where
lant where Laurent is, right, But that didn't you know,
obviously she held it in and then they took her
off one more time.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
But here's the thing. She doesn't know where he is exactly.
She doesn't, you know, Darrel's the only one that does.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well. I think she heard him say our secret cave.
So she knows it's a cave, but she doesn't know
where it is, no clue.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, I mean that's you know, even if it's somewhere
in the you know, we know it's somewhere in the vicinity,
that's still a lot of ground to cover.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
And I don't know what the cave system is like
in this area. I have no idea, but I'm pretty
sure it wouldn't be easy to find, right. So, I mean,
it's enough that I don't know how much they patrol,
but patrols haven't found them, no, you know, although I
will say, you know, all things being equal, that they

(26:36):
are kind of laxed as far as their security goes.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well, you know, there are supposed to be peaceful people, right,
so I'm sure they don't really train. They probably don't
have all those skill sets, or they have a couple
of people that came in that might have had a
little bit of security or something that are, you know,
taking the leads. But they don't have any kind of organization.

(27:01):
Not really, not like that.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
No, no, not really. I mean I'm gonna be real
truthful considering how how focused Janine has been on finding
these people. I mean, Okay, you've been there. Is it
really that hard to find?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah? If you don't know where it is, yes, I mean, oh,
you're laying the bus for a couple of hours from
the you know, Paris area, So I wouldn't have known
without a map in knowing exactly where it is. Yeah,
without Google Maps.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
But once you get like in the vicinity, you can
see it from far away because it's pretty huge. So
once you get like, I don't know, within five miles
of it, I guess I'd say you can see it
in the in the horizon, but but.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
You wouldn't be able to tell there's people there.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Neither, not that far away. No, you can't tell it
til you get close a mile maybe, but it's got
to be.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
A well enoughtoned place that you know. When Carol mentioned
it to the professor or to the teacher, he immediately
knewhere it was.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
There's signs everywhere. So if you knew what you were
looking for, and you knew which direction it was in,
as you get closer, you know, they it's a tourist spot. Yeah,
you know, they'd have signs, just like for everything else
that's a tourist item.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
So well, I suppose at that point Kara wouldn't have
needed to ask anyone. She could have just looked at
the signs.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, once she got in the vicinity. Yeah, just follow
the signs and then you know, when you look from
the street of the highway, you can see it far
in the distance. Just walk that way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
So yeah, I am. I have because I kind of
have wondered through throughout this. You know, how is it
that they have kept this place a secret? I mean
it's a big building with nothing around it.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, I don't think it's a secret. I think it's
a secret that they're there. They probably think it's abandoned,
you know.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, but if I knew it was there, I mean
I take the castle.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, I mean definitely working. You know, it's working. They
have well, and I'm assuming it's in our you know,
timeline or whatever. So the thing was already set up
for people to use. There's bathrooms, there's rooms, there's stores,
there's all kinds of stuff in there, yeah, that we
don't see on camera.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
But and then there's the tide that comes in and out,
which I'm sure helps yep.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
So you know, yeah, I would use it. I mean,
it is odd. Why wouldn't you check there? It seems
like an obvious place to check for a huge group
of people to hide out.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, that's that's basically what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, weird mm, but you know,
like everything in this show, just you know, disregard it.
It's fine, it just is.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
It just is.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, just accept and move on, carry on.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Well, and I love the father trying to justify. Yeah
to Daryl, well, this is why we're you know, we're
doing this for the greater good. We're trying to replenish
people's faith. And again, faith doesn't have to be replenished,
that's why it's faith and all of his you know,
he's really going out of his way to justify what

(30:35):
they're doing. And the more he tried to justify it,
the more it just sounded ridiculous pathetic.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, Low saying he is like, he wants to be that,
you know, he wants to have the higher moral ground
and just really feel like he's doing this great thing.
But he's not. He doesn't he knows it. I think
he knows it.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, he has to know it.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, absolutely. So what did you think about when Darryl
and Isabelle were tied up, you know, or chained, I
should say, in their little prison area and they're having
that little cute conversation and she's like, tell me a story,
talk to me about whatever, you know, and they have

(31:18):
that moment and she says I love you to him.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I'm like, oh, it's French, So he did he doesn't
understand it?

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Well, I thought at first maybe he didn't, But then
I'm like, well, he's been learning some so maybe he does.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't know that. I'm not sure that would be
a phrase that they would teach him.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I don't know, but that she sure did say. And
at first I said, well, he doesn't understand it, so
that's why he's not really reacting in that way. But
then I'm thought, well, maybe I don't know. I mean,
I'm determined, you.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Know, the things that that they have been teaching have
been more practical or mundane, know, to ask for things
to you know, the names of things. I can't it
would Karina says, uh, she loves Daryl. I think he understood.

(32:15):
I mean, he might know the phrase, but I don't know.
I mean, I don't think that would be one that
he would be had been purposefully taught. Mm hmm, you
know in this place and location. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
And I guess even if he didn't understand the words
for batim, he probably understood the intent, you know. Yeah,
kind of like what Karna says, the look on his face,
he got it, but.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
He didn't say it back.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
He didn't. But you know, he might have been in shock.
I don't know. And then of course she was yanked away,
so he's all screaming for her.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
This is true, So I look like you getting people up,
you know.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, but you know that's like the kiss of death
or character You've confessed your love in an apocalypse and
you're being pulled away. What's gonna happen to her? You
think he's gonna rescue her and they're just gonna skip
off and find Laurent.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I think he's gonna do what he can. I think
he's he would not voluntarily leave her behind.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
We know that, Oh no, he won't. But I feel like, well,
you know, they just killed Sylvie's character in the most
dumb way, but they killed her right. I I don't know.
It seems like just when you make your feelings known,
something bad is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I don't know. I think Darryl kind of deserves this,
And they're not not having her takeing away, but having
someone for him. It would be nice if Daryl had
someone for him for a while.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
He probably could use it. Honestly, He's had a lot
of tough breaks. He could use a girlfriend that's you know,
not turned evil or or whatever. Yeah, but I don't know.
I'm curious to see. We'll have to see what happens,
because obviously he's going to get out of that.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah. Well, and and there is we know that I'm
pretty sure in this. In the episode four, he sees Carol,
he gets together with Carol.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Makes the comment I can't leave without them.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, he's talking about that whole little clique you know,
Laurn and what the other guy's name, fallou follow And
of course you know Isabelle. He's not gonna leave without her.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Right because I have a feeling. She's like, Okay, I
found you. Let's go. And he's like, yeah, well, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Guess you don't know what he's been up to for
the last you know, several months, all right, or however
long it's been.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
You know, Sorry, we got people to rescue. I know
you've come a long way, but.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
But I created a new fan and we have to
help them. Right there that.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I was planning on bringing them home though, how are
we all out of here? Well, and here's the thing,
you know, it never would have crossed his mind that
anyone would come looking for him.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
There, no, because what is what are the chances? You know,
so slim? How would any Honestly, Carol lucked out. It
was a fluke that she found him. Yeah, there's no
way anyone else could have done that. And she just
had a series of events that just happened to just

(35:37):
fall into place because you know, the writer said so
but for the normal person, it wouldn't have been able
to find him.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
So, I mean, Darryl has zero expectations of anyone coming
coming for him, and and he is making plans to
take them back to America. So you know, he's going
to be in shock when he sees Carol, because because
she is going to be the last thing he thought

(36:04):
he would be finding there. I know he's going to
be I mean, he's not gonna be unhappy, don't get me,
but he's going to be shocked.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, uh.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
And I but you know, honestly, I don't know that
he'll be because you know, if if it was reversed,
he would go to the ends of the earth to
find Carroll. So I don't I think he'll be shocked,
but not surprised.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Hell, he might even rip her and say, what took
you so long?

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I could see that.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
I've been here for six months? Where are you been? Yeah,
you know that kind of thing. I mean. But like
I said, I mean, he's going to be shocked, but
not I don't think he'll be surprised. Now, if if
it was anyone else, like if mortgaged, that would shock him.
You know, if it was Rick, definitely shocked him for

(37:08):
multitudes of reason. But Carol, you know, they have such
a strong bond between the two of them. You know,
once he gets over the his initial hole white, you know,
holy crap. I think he always kind of he knew
that if anyone was going to find him, it would
have been her.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh. Absolutely, she would be the only one. She's just
she's just got a unique set of skills and only
she could pull it off.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
We love Carol.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Oh yeah, absolutely. I wonder if she's gonna rip him
about his girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Probably, and she should, you know, because that's what siblings do.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
You know that everybody's siblings.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah. Well, I mean, and here's the thing. When she
was talking to the one guy, the guy who's being tortured,
I don't remember his name. Yeah, I know Karina will
tell us, but I don't really care. But when she
was talking and saying that, you know, he's my brother,
I really did actually believe that because I think that's

(38:19):
exactly how she she That's how she feels about him,
that's how she looks at him. This is my he's
my little this is my little brother, you know. And
would she would move heaven and earth to help him.
But then again he would do the same for her,
So you know, it's it's a well balanced relations it's
not one sided.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Right, absolutely. Yeah, I do want to talk a little bit,
just to go back a little bit. You know that
scene where after Carol and Janet were looking at the
Mona Lisa. You know, they're being served dinner behind them,
and that guy is like the food's nasty whatever. He

(39:02):
tosses it on the floor, and there's this whole thing
where Jenay like makes him eat off of the floor.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yes, like a dog.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Yes, I'm like, god, dang. And Carol's watching this, like
what did you think of that scene? Like that really
shows the power that Jenay has over that group of people.
M and it also shows a little bit of her
crazy as.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Well, it does, you know, I thought. And if you look,
you know, the people that are all in that room
are all standing there on the beach. Where are you
getting ready to be killed?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
You know?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
So she's been trading these guys for a while and
you can see that training because this guy towers over
her and there was no one else in the room
that could have enforced her word if he had decided
to say no. So, yeah, she she's definitely got a

(40:01):
a big hold on these people. And I gotta wonder
what is it that she is promising them that they're
getting out of dying, Because it's obviously not the food, No.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I think maybe it's that maybe she's giving food to
their families or something like they've left, you know how
when she gave the food to all the people and
people voluntarily got on the trucks. Yeah, so I think,
you know, they are getting something, but it may not
be for themselves. It may be for friends or family

(40:38):
they're trying to take care of that need food or
whatever she's giving them.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, because I do wonder what it is because unless
these guys are feveroran feverent followers, you know, and she
since she excused religion so much, it's you know, it's
something secular. But it does kind of surprise me. And

(41:09):
it also kind of surprises me that she put Carol
in with this group of people that she has been
grooming for a while now, and they're all aware of
what's going on, and Carol is not right.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
That's probably why they she separated her from them. She
couldn't hear them talking or anything, so they don't know
what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Right, So I did find you know, so for you know,
when we were talking about group one and group two,
I'm pretty sure the you know, Carol's group is the
one that she's planning on turning into zombies.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Well, you know, if Carol, I'm not sure that is
the group she was put into. I think that might
have been the other group. But now that Jane is
going to kill her, she's like, I don't care what
group you came in on, you're with these people, right.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Well, she was in that that mess hall with them,
so I just you know, my assumption is that she
was going to be put with them anyway. Oh yeah,
maybe you know, it was just fortuitous for Ginine to
find out who she was. It did work in her favor.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
So maybe they weren't really splitting the people then maybe everybody,
because that was a big group of people she had
mm hm oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
But I mean she's also been collecting people for a
while too, and true. I mean if you think about it,
back in season one when they had Darryl and the Pitts,
I mean there was a lot of people there, So
you know, I think in and that's not the only
place she has people. She has those little enclaves, you know,

(42:49):
dotted throughout. So yeah, she's she's got she's got a
lot of people.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Oh yeah, she definitely does.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I mean, now the religious people, you know, they have
a big too, but they there's spread thinly throughout France,
you know, as you know, being used as way stations
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
M h. So I wonder, so do all of those
people all over the country, like hiding out and you know,
like the school and just pockets of people, do they
all know that the intent was to possibly have Laurent
bitten to see I wonder if they all know or

(43:29):
if only the people at the nest know.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I'm gonna say only the people at the nest because
that would be number one. If everyone knew, then the
nuns and stuff would have known it. Where is you know,
Laurent and Isabelle were, and I don't I don't think

(43:54):
they would have been able to keep that kind of
a secret, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
So, Okay, so let's say we go back to season
one and they weren't you know, they were able to
stay there longer all those nuts weren't killed. How long
would they have let him stay there before they tried
to transfer him? You know, like, was there an age
they were waiting to Like if they were so, why

(44:23):
didn't they just do it when he was like five?
Or hell too? You know what I'm saying. I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, I'm not sure. Apparently there was you know, the
one priest apparently had a vision and there was something
to it. I don't know. They never actually explain exactly
what his vision was. But my guess is, and again

(44:51):
I don't know, but if everyone was, if everyone else
was in on the secret except for Isabelle mm hmm.
You know, I really don't buy it, because what's her
name died too. You know, she had no idea she
was going to go and save Laurent. Yeah, she was clueless,

(45:12):
and she was a believer. So if if they were
just telling just the believers, they would have told her yes,
and they did not.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Hmm. Yeah, So you're right. It's probably just a small
group of them within that larger group that honestly probably
knew up until like the final days when they decided
to move forward, right, and then of course the circle
had to expand because we need people to go kill
people and do steparate people and do all this other stuff.
Some more people knew at that point.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, but I'm going to say that it was only
a small group of people had any idea, and maybe
even I mean the father, you know, Mon Senior at
the church where Laurent was being brought up at maybe
he did know and kept it a secret, but I
don't think he ever told any of the nuns.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Well, I definitely can see that a possibility, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
You know that this was the plan to raise him
to be, you know, a leader and then you know,
bring him out and haven't bitten, and to prove their faith.
But we don't know because by the time Daryl got there,
the monsignor had already been bitten.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, and they kept his ass uh locked in there,
m huh.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Yeah to try and reach him.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Oh gosh, like you poor people, I'm so sorry for you.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah. Yeah, I think it was just that. Yeah, and
like I said, it maybe just a group of mon
signiors or you know, just the higher echelon or whatever
may have been aware of it, only those deemed truly faithful.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, because I don't think like so that low saying
is his name. I don't think he's any kind of
like priest or anything. I think he's just a spiritual
person or something. I don't think he's a priest.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Well I've heard him refer to as father hmm, but
that could just be a you know, nomenclature for you know,
respect or something. I don't know that it's a religious
I mean, they don't call him on senior or anything. No,
so they could just call him father, you know, just

(47:40):
because it's a religious organization.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Wow. Again, sounds totally you know, culty to me. Yeah,
all of it From the beginning. Honestly, it sounded kind
of strange.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Well, I've you know, we've known since we first met
Laurent that there, you know, they had big plans for them,
but you know, the whole it always had this weird
flavor to it, you know what I mean, And we

(48:18):
just now recently found out what what the weirdness was
all about. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I'm curious to see what happens next week because you know,
now we're at this point where the action seems like
it could go kind of crazy, you know, with the
Walkers attacking and Daryl escaping and trying to say people.
I think it can be pretty action packed the next episode.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Oh yeah, I mean we've only got.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Two episodes left, right, Uh you mean after next week? Yeah,
let's see, so there are a total of six episodes,
so yeah, technically we're halfway there after yesterday's episode. Oh yeah,

(49:10):
two more after next week. So really there's not a
lot of time to really wrap this thing up. I
do hope they uh killed Janey this season though, I
think they're gonna wrap that up so they could go
somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, I'd like to. I'd like to see her go.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
The bad thing is is again everywhere you know, our
group of Walking Dead survivors go, they tend to just
completely to stabilize the.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Entire you know, power structure going on, Trouble just follows them.
Here comes trouble, right.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
So it will be I think it'll you know, the
sad thing is is even if they get rid of Janay,
we know, like I said, you know, both sides are
cuckoo for cocoa puffs crazy and there's no there there
is no one else to to take over, you know,

(50:16):
which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it also you know,
they're both they have both been somewhat stabilizing influences, so
you know, with if both groups are gone, it'll just
destabilize a lot of France.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Honestly, I bet there are other groups as well. These
are just the two they're focusing.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
On, and that's I mean, that's you know, very possible too.
But I do believe it'll be. It's gonna cause some disruptions.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
I'm sure. I mean, I don't know how great would
that be for the people that are in that area
to not be fearful of being turned into a walker
and shot up his stuff. I mean, I'm sure they'll
be happy not to be experimented on.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah. Yeah, But I'm also getting I am gonna say this,
I'm a little surprised, with as much infrastructure per se
that they have, that there were so many hungry people,
you know, so many desperate people that Janine is just
picking up.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
See that doesn't surprise me because I feel like when
you have the power, you hoard everything and just doll
it out and little bits to the little people to
make them feel grateful. So yeah, I don't know where
she's getting it from, but wherever she's getting it from,
she has some monopoly on it.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Well, they have a little vineyard behind the building. Yep. Sorry,
Well you know, I'm just saying she has a little vineyard.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Mm hmm. Yeah, But I think that's just my two cents. Anyway,
That's how I think the people don't have food or whatever,
and they're just willing to do whatever she wants to
get the little scraps that they throw out there to them. Yeah,
once they or however much they come, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Simply because they take up the lion's share whatever they
find exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
So, yeah, incouting wine, she opened and bottles of wine
like it's a regular day.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
It's not that great, It's okay. We have a small
vineyard in the back. Yeah. Well it's good for you, honey,
good for you.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
You know who's processing the wine? Who's doing that? Somebody?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I don't know. I hope it's not the walkers.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
That'll be nasty wine.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Oh you think, Yeah, I think so. I mean, you know,
I mean it is friends. I mean there might be
people there that you don't, given their the choice of activities,
might want to just go work in the vineyard. I mean,
that might be one of the one, the lesser of

(53:09):
the two evils going around there.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
So let's see what kreanis asked. Jenney had a right hand.
We saw her. They were cleaning ladies together, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, they went from both of them went from cleaning
ladies to fascists essentially. Yeah, And it's funny because her
right hand is, you know, the one that was trying
to organize the strike for workers' rights.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
And that was the same lady who came back and
talked to her after she brought the people back, right,
it was her, Yeah, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Know, just I just want to point out that when
when you were the underdog, that you were all about,
you know, rights for the people and everything else, and
how that you're on top. Yeah, screw is the little guy.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
The tables have turned.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
The tables have turned. You know, power is good. Apparently
that's what I hear. So yeah, yeah, they do say
absolute was it absolute power controls or absolute power corrupts? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's mm hmmm. I think that's true, especially
in this world anyway. Oh yeah, I'm trying to think.
Was there anything else? Oh, I didn't want to speak
on Sylvie's death real quick, So I don't know why
that death seems so ridiculous to me. But she gets out,

(54:40):
she's running around, and it's like, did she trip? Did
they She's turned around when they were behind her. Did they?
And I did not go back and watch again, but
I'm like, it looked like she just tripped and fowls
to her death. I'm like, that is the stupidest thing.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah, I I that's what I got out of it.
She tripped and fell. You know, she was trying, you know,
she had nowhere to run, and she was scrambling and
just fell.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I feel like that was such a weak death. It
would have been better if one of them had actually
killed her, like on purpose.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
And shoved her over the side.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
M mm hmm. Yeah, just the story. We want to
show them not being that nice. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, And I also I had two thoughts when she died.
I'm like, well, I guess no one has to tell
her that her boyfriend died.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Oh my gosh, right, you know, because you know, was.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
A little not concerned, concerned like, oh that's gonna.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Be sad, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
M And the other is, you know, she she was
a little reckless in how she was going about looking
for Laurence. If she had just been a little more stealthy,
I think would have had a better chance of finding
it rather than running around screaming his name.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Okay, So Karna says she snatched away Bob and weaved
over the side. I don't feel like that's what I saw.
She might have snatched away if they tried to grab her,
but it seemed like that happened fast, like it was
almost a cartwheel over the back of that thing. I mean,
it just happened real fast. I didn't get that, Oh no,
she's gonna fall. But you know again, I didn't rewind

(56:25):
to watch twice, so I don't know. I just felt
like there was a more respectable way for her character
to bite it. No pun intended.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Yeah, I mean I wasn't. Like I said, my first
thought was, oh, good, we don't have to tell her
that her boyfriend's dead. Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I'm like, why she gotta die? Couldn't she be a
final girl? No, she got a die. No.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Apparently when they told her about it, she was all excited.
She got it. She was gonna get to be a walker.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, she uh. The actress and the after thing was
talking about the makeup. She was really excited to seem
like she was excited to do it, and the actor
who plays Lauren said, oh, I was sad she would
be gonna be on set anymore, like all so well set, buddy,
it's okay, yes, yeah, but that's cool. I mean, as

(57:22):
long as you know you're gonna get what you get
with that show, and you could die but you know,
and she's not a main character, so of course she
was more likely to die, right. I still like a
main character to die, I will right.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Now where we pretty much have Isabelle, Laurent, Daryl or Carroll.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Those are our choices. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I really don't gonna kill Carrol, there's no way.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Right And I don't really want him to kill Isabella.
I really don't. I want I want Darryl to his
little family for even if it's for a little while.
You know, everyone, you know, Carol's had her little family
a couple of times, and I don't know, it'd just
be nice to see Darryl have someone love him back.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Mm hmm. I agree, that would be nice, But I
think that will be the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
He can't be happy, yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
You know. It's like, you know how when they have
a main guy and lady leading a show. In the
minute they hook up, the show's over.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
The minute they get together, we're done. That's what what
happened with Darryl. The minute he's happy and a family
guy or whatever they want to turn him into, the
show's over. Yeah, you know, no one can be happy
in this world.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Well, that would make the Carroll dynamic a little awkward,
I guess too.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Mm hmm, so like a cirl wheel with them from
Isabelle and Carol and now Ash trailing along being mad.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yeah, let's not forget Ash.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
I still feel bad for that guy. He's just around
doing stuff, running errands, trying to get this plane to work.
And you know, I guess when she shows up, she
shows up. Yeah, he'll probably make it through the season. Then.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I think he's gonna make it to the end. But
like I said, there is no way they can get
everyone on that plane and back to the and back.
It's too small.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yeah, I know they're gonna have Well, I'm not sure.
Maybe he'll leave on the plane and they'll go a
different way. You know, they'll go back and I'll be like, hey, sorry,
the plants changed. You leave and we're going a different way. Sorry,
I lied to you. Bye. I don't know. Maybe I

(59:57):
hope he doesn't die. That would suck.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
I know, I really don't want him to die. Yeah,
Carol would feel really bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I'm sure she would. She just totally use that man,
and he's a good person. So we'll see if he
makes it. I hope so, but we'll see one more
person has to die at least at least.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I mean, can't we just call it Janine and everyone
at the Crazy Religious Factory and you know, call it good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
I don't know, Well, we know a ton of them
are gonna die because a ton of them don't even
have names. All those people are just gonna just be walkers.
They're gonna all be turned probably, you know, they all
get bitten, and then they're all walking around looking crazy.
That's what I think. Alive of them will be walkers
in the next episode after they get attacked.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I think it would be kind of funny if you know,
the walkers turn on Janine eight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Oh, that would be I wouldn't be mad at it,
but I doubt it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I doubt it, but it would be funny. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
She would deserve it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
She would deserve it. I mean, that would be a
fitting death for her. Actually, I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Like you wanted to create this, go ahead, and you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Know, yeah at it, reap your rewards so well. Karitas
did mention that she enjoyed season or episodes four through
six because she watched ahead, but she's not saying anything.
Thank you, Karita, but so I'm hopeful if she liked it,

(01:01:37):
you know, we have you know, three more good episodes
to look forward through too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, and then that's like it for the foreseeable future,
because I don't think Dead City is coming back this year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
I don't think not this year. Yes, ours, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Yeah, so that's it. Oh my gosh, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I know, but I mean, sweetie, it is October, I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Know, but still I feel like it doesn't seem like
it's this far in the year already.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
But I know, I mean, we've only got what two
and a half months left of the year. I know,
you know, we're really not that. We're less than ninety
days for the new year.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
So I wonder if Dead City will have like a
February release or if they're going to make us wait
until summer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Hmm. I haven't do any research.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I haven't heard too much, to be quite truthful. You know,
we know that there's going to be another you know,
Dead City, but I haven't heard too much.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I think I heard some other creators kind of gossiping
about another spinoff, but I hadn't heard anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I haven't heard anything either.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Yeah, you know, they all try to think they're going
to Yeah, you know, everybody thinks they know everything. I
don't know. I'm like, I didn't see anything. I didn't
see any news stories. So I mean, you never know.
Some people might have inside knowledge. Who knows. I don't
want to be calling people liars, but you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Right, I mean, you know, if you if you have
a connection to the writer's room or whatever, then you know,
more power to you. But for us lay people, you
know who, we haven't heard anything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
No, and it would be years before we see it. Anyway,
if they do have another spin off, it'll be twenty
twenty six before we see anything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
So yeah, okay, anything else on this episode you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Think, No, I think we're pretty much done.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yeah. It was a good one. Another one, right, only
I minimally complained, great, look at you go. We're we're
on a roll here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Keep it up, Tambor, keep it up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
I know I should just say to the you know,
writer's room, to the directors and you know all of them,
don't mess it up like you can do it good,
don't screw it up too bad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
You know. Well, Karitas is telling us that they're good,
and she's a tough critic, so you know we're putting
I'm putting my faith in your Karina.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Yeah, exactly, we're gonna come back and be like Krita,
you lied to us. No, No, I think it'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
I haven't heard too many grumbles about it, you know,
and a lot of people have seen those episodes, So
I think we'll be good. I think the next three
weeks will be a fun, fun time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I hope, I think so. I mean, truthfully, I really
have enjoyed these these last you know, these last three episodes.
I mean they've been good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah, not bad, pretty good. Okay, So I guess we'll
end things there. Thanks to everyone who listens live, and
a special thanks to Karina and Caesar. We're in the
live audience tonight. Let's see, it's been a fun time.
We'll catch you guys next week. And before you go,
don't forget to like and subscribe wherever you are listening,

(01:05:10):
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