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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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(00:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:35):
Lisa, absolutely camera. This is a conversation, not a dissertation.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Exactly, no scene by scene breakdowns here. We jump around
and of course huge spoiler alert for everything every show
in this world through yesterday's episode, And if you're good
with that, this is the place for you, and we
should just jump to it, because I think there's a
lot to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes there is.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, what did you think? This is the notorious episode
four that was supposed to be so great and everyone
loves it?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Do we do?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
You love it?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I liked it? I did. I'm gonna say I did
not see Carol jumping on an ATV and making a
run for it.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, you thought she would kind of blend right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I thought she would walk with the Walkers. But you know,
apparently those You were right about that though, because with
them amped up, they knew that she wasn't one of them.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
M hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
So her jumping on that ATV and take it off
was that was something with what's his name on the back,
what's going on? Guy?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Faster? It's like, what is what's happening? Get out of here?
Get me out of here? Oh yeah, I okay. So
I liked it as well, But I have to say
it would not be a Walking Dead show if it
did not have huge plot holes and things that were

(03:03):
truly unbelievable. For example, we just got finished mentioning that
scene where Carol jumps up and you know, she runs away,
but as everyone else got shot down with an automatic weapon,
she was not hit and no one else survived but her. Okay,
I'm gonna do you.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Went down before everybody else did, though.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I know, but what is the likelihood? But okay, I'll
take it, okay. And then everyone gets shot up with
the serum and she removes it real fast. I'm like, girl, okay,
I'll also suspend disbelief on that as well, because you
know later in the same episode when Janey gets it,

(03:46):
I mean that happened immediately. There was no time, well.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
No, there was a there was a couple seconds, but
because she was reaching for it but was in the
center of her back.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I know, but I'm saying that happened fast and can
take it up fast. She yes, she grabbed it fast
as well. But I thought instantly when she went for
the syringe thing, I said, oh my god, I wonder
if any got in there. Is she gonna have any
kind of reaction? Is anything gonna happen? And now she's fine.
But again, like as always with these shows, I do

(04:18):
enjoy them, and if I turn my brain off, I
can roll with most of it. For a minute. I
start like dissecting does this make sense? Why this? Why that?
It kind of breaks down a little.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
It does, but but I mean, overall, I did enjoy
the show.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I really did.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I really liked that moment between Carol and Darryl when
they first saw each other.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, so I also liked that scene. Okay, I thought
it was very cool, especially when you hear later that
that wasn't the original plan for that. So originally the
plan was that Carol would rescue him from the cell.

(05:08):
You know, he would still be locked down, right, But
they didn't want that because they didn't want him to
need rescuing and he didn't want to seem weak and
all of that. So I think I liked the new
version better than what they originally planned.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I really what I really liked about it was, you know,
Darryl all efficient murder, plowing through all those zombies and everything,
and Carol was her gun hot Papa there at the
end and he looks up at he sees her and
there was just that moment of not all but just

(05:46):
incredulous and happy.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
So it was a WTF kind of moment, like he
had to pause and am I seeing what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
The whole you know, there was just that that that
heartbeat between the two of them as they looked at
each other, because she has looked for him so hard
and he has tried so hard to get back to her,
and you know, so yeah, that was I really liked
that moment between the two of them.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, it was short, but it needed to be based
on what was happening in the moment, so you know,
I was cool with that. I really did like it
that segment. It was kind of tense, and then the
relief of them seeing each other again and then of course, okay,
we gotta go now, right. So I was fine with

(06:43):
I didn't have any issues with that segment. Actually, I
was really happy with it.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
And yeah, we both discussed last last week, you know,
was Isabelle going to make it? And I and I said,
you know, I really kind of would like Daryl to
have her, you know, to have to have this opportunity
to have this relationship with her. But I think you
and I both kind of suspected that was not going

(07:13):
to be the case.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So this is the thing. I knew there wouldn't be
a happily ever after because you know, once the couple
gets together, and you know, that's usually gay mincer, right,
So I knew it wouldn't be that exactly. But I
have to be honest, I really feel like they killed
her too soon. I think it would have been good
to see this new unit plus Carol, with her in

(07:39):
the whole little group, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
And we got a little, this tiny taste of it
when when Carol you know, rescued her from from the walker,
and you know, then it was I thought it was
kind of it was kind of funny because you know,
she she was just pretty much plowing through everyone else,
although she did shoot those two guys that were after

(08:02):
the people. But you know, she put the you know,
she put the cover over, you know, wrapped her wound
and and everything else, and it was just this kind of,
I don't want to say sweet moment, but it was
a it was a good moment between Carol and her.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah. I'm glad that connection happened, because that's going to
give her some point of like understanding, I think when
it comes to Daryl and dealing with the aftermath of that.
But I still think they killed her too soon. I
would be okay with her dying. I'm not saying don't
kill her. Yeah, I'm fine with her dying, but one

(08:45):
more episode maybe. I just I don't know. I felt
like that was so fast and the character was like
a main character.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Yeah. Well, and I think they wanted I think part
of the reason that they added it this time was
because they wanted the father's I can't remember his name now.
His transformation from pacifist to whatever it is he's turning

(09:19):
into was complete with him, you know, putting that knife
in Isabelle, because that was really outside of character for him.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, which also kind of is one of these things
where they just make the plot convenient again, right, So
it's like I didn't expect him to do that, and
he seemed very uncomfortable doing it. But then in the
final scene he's suddenly very comfortable, you know, melding these
two groups together and going after Laurence. So I'm like, okay, well,

(09:51):
is he the new villain? Now? Is he the villain?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, because he's decided, you know, he's decided that Laurent
is he's going to be there miracle, and and he's
convinced now that the reason that Laurent got away was
not to get away from him, but to save him
from Janey.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yes, I know, the dark thing.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Ever, and then since Janey died, you know, looking for Laurent,
then obviously he was right. So they're going to get
him and it's all going to be just peachy keen.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Oh my gosh, several screws are loose.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Oh yeah, I mean this is where you go from
faith to fanaticism.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Well, he was kind of their last episode, right, right,
but now he's really extra right, Like I said, he.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Him killing Isabelle would be that step from again faith
to fanaticism because his reality, you know, she smacked him.
I mean, sure enough, she did, but him grabbing a
knife and and you and killing her because she wouldn't
give him, I wouldn't tell him where Laurent was was.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
That was really like he was like acting like a
petulant child, almost like you're not gonna tell me, fine,
I'll stab you. I'm like what, okay?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, and he even had gotten on the one woman
one woman with him, and you know, this could be civilized,
you know kind of thing, you know, let her speak,
so yeah, that that it's like he snapped when when
she retaliated against him, he retaliated back.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's a nice way to put it. Snapped.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So so even with okay, so speaking of you know,
now he seems to be the leader of this new
group collective even though you know, Jenney's little sidekick is there.
Maybe she's also gonna be heading up things. Who knows.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But after he's gonna take care of the religious and
she'll take care of the secular.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Probably. But after last week, you know, we got to
see her backstory a little bit. I kind of feel like,
and again last week I kind of said, I'm okay
with someone just being bad. Yeah, I don't necessarily have
to feel this empathy toward her because in this episode,

(12:30):
I lost someone I loved. We all lost people, Oh yeah,
we all did so Honestly, I really feel like that
was almost wasteful last episode, and we could have did
something else with that time because the way they took
her out so efficiently and quickly after all this time again,

(12:52):
so Darryl has several chances to get her, probably one
that we saw and now it's just done.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, I did think that, you know, that was kind
of abrupt. I will say this though, when she's talking
to you know, Carol's on the floor and she's looking
at carrols She's like, you just don't understand. I lost
someone I loved right in front of me. Do you
have any idea what that's like? And Carol's reaction, which
was just, ah, you know, it's tough almost and you

(13:22):
could just see her she didn't do it, and you know,
but you could feel her rolling.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Around like give me a break.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah exactly. That was just like are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, that's kidding me. How I felt too. I'm like,
get out of here. Everybody in this who everyone that's
left has lost someone.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Right, And and I think that was one of the
things that I really didn't like about Janney's. She was
acting as if she was the only one going through this.
She can see the entire destruction of the world. She
has caused part of this destruction of the world. You know,
she's you know, this is warn and she's the one
advocating for it. She's the one that started it, and

(14:05):
she's justifying all of it because I lost someone I love.
Do you understand what that feels like? Uh, y'all you know, yes,
you know, everyone that's alive right now knows what that
feels like. Uh, you know, So her trying to act
like she's special somehow, and and I mean I did

(14:32):
find it rather interesting that she went from a very
pushed around housekeeper or janitor or whatever, you know, to
this feared woman. And I'm like, man that you know,
I guess, you know, the all things being equal, I
guess you know, the end of the world worked out

(14:53):
all right for uh.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You know. That also made me think, you know, she
has several screws loose too, because you lose one person
that's important to you and you turn into that. I
don't I don't see really the can I want? Well,
if they're gonna show her show me how she got
that way. I don't think that was it. It couldn't
have been. If it was, that was dumb, that was
the trigger, that's it.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, I don't think that. I mean, she was kind
of a pushed around person to begin with, but she
really wasn't all that nice. I mean, when they were
trying to get her to join the you know, their
their strike and everything, she was, you know, really kind
of flippant about it. But what's that gonna do? Who cares?

(15:37):
You know kind of thing. I mean, she was like, fine,
I'll do it, but there wasn't any passion in it, right.
I don't think that she was you know, I think
she was kind of a wishy was she pushed around person?
Prior to the pandemic or prior to the zombie apocalypse.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
She seemed very about herself, right about hers and herself,
which I'm fine with.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
And she never teach that.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I don't know, did she though, because like what she
never did? What is the point of the variance that
she was making.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Power power to what?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I think she felt like prior to every you know, everything,
prior to her boyfriend getting eaten, she had felt very
very helpless am I And once he died in that
whole and everything collapsed around her, I think she was
just even if you have no control over what is happening,

(16:46):
you can at least feel I think she wanted to
feel like she had some control over what was happening.
So the experiments with the zombies, the you know, the power,
everything else was really just to It was all to
keep her safe. Hmmm. At least that's what I Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean it might be partial to accepting that, but
it just seems like so extravagant and over the top,
so massive. I mean, hell, she's bringing people from America
on a boat.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, oh, I'm sorry. Created it was her husband.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I knew that.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Sorry, I just I did say boyfriend, didn't I look.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
A man is a man. He died, right, we know,
we all have. You know, some people can be in
a long term relationship and never married and feel just
as bad as someone who is married. So I'm just
trying to say, I don't know if I, as a watcher,
believe that that was enough motivation for the extreme situation

(17:51):
that she has put herself in. Like you know what
I'm saying, Like it's very big it's a big operation,
a lot of moving parts. She's like this evil genius,
and it's not.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Really an evil genius.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
She's just well she is. If she brought these people
together and she convinced them to do her bidding, she
convinced them to make these serums, why would you?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
You can be a great con man and still be
an idiot.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Look, it's starting to break down even more. The more
we talk about it, the more I don't like it. Okay,
because how in this world? Okay, So, now that she's dead,
does that just mean the variants are gone? What does
that mean? Are people gonna still be making them? Will
they choose to just stop?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I would hope they would stop.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I mean, I would hope that they would stop making
the variants. But the ones that are already out there
are out there.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah, they are out there. But again, from every show
we've seen, there's not a lot of them out there.
You see them once in a while. There's more in France,
we've seen that, right.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure she had something to do
with that.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Oh, I'm sure. But as you start killing them, you're
not more unless they're creating more. If there won't be
more unless somehow they managed to just hop to different
you know, hop around like a virus again. I don't know,
is that possible? Who knows?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Well, I was kind of wondering if maybe because she
was doing experiments on the boat and some of the
variants that we saw were hers that had gotten out,
you know, while she was in America.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
I don't know, I don't know, I I don't know.
I guess we'll see what they do with it. I
just feel like they created another plot hole to have
to deal with.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, well, I mean, like I said, she needs We've
all met these people. It's just that their circumstances don't
allow them, you know, Kurt, the way society is set up,
don't allow them to, you know, indulge themselves and without
any order, without any structure. You know, if you don't

(20:07):
have any care about the people around you, it's easier
to do things like she has done. You know, the
lack of a conscience helps in these situations.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Clearly she doesn't have that right or didn't.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean, the way she acted prior to my guess
is that she was probably borderline narcissistic to begin with,
and everything you know, with all the restraints gone with her,
with her husband gone, there's really nothing holding her to
being a there was no advantage to being a good person.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
But she didn't even have to be a good person.
That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not saying
she should have been a good person or you know,
it shouldn't affected her negatively. What I am saying is
like it just seems like it blew up to this huge,
massive like the plot was lost to me, That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
But I mean, we've had a lot of you know,
bad guys over the course of this show that that
really started, you know. I mean Nigan started off as
a gym teacher.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Mm hmm. Yeah, but he's probably never a good person anyway.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Right, No, I'm just saying that, you know, these people
that have amassed power, they most of them weren't anything
to begin with. I think the only one that had
any power to begin with would have been in the
Commonwealth of.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
What's her name, oh, the old mayor or whatever or
government whatever her role was. Yeah, I don't know. I
just we wanted her dead and she is dead. So good.
Written's Jay, But I just feel like you open the

(21:54):
door for us to speak into her life, and it
didn't satisfy. Now that I know she is dead, that easily. Yeah,
going back retrospect, I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
You know, they you know, maybe they were just looking
at it from you know, we're gonna kill her off,
you know, let's give you a little bit, you know,
more about her kind of maybe. Yeah, like I said,
you know, because one of the bad guys in the show,
I mean Alpha, you know, she wasn't anything special, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
But she was in the show a whole damn season.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Who Alpha? Yeah, Well, yeah she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I mean, you know, maybe more than one season. I
felt like it carried over. I don't know it, don't
quote me, but I feel like she was more of
a She was always on camera, right. We got a
lot of time with her, you know, because even there
was a time when Nigan was with her, you know
what I mean, we got some time with her. So
I feel like it was okay in that case. But

(23:00):
this woman, we I feel like the only time we
kind of got time with her is when one of
our characters was in proximity or when we got the flashback.
I didn't we didn't need to know that we didn't.
She could have been just fine being a villain period.
We didn't have to know that about her.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I mean, no matter what her past was, she you
know it didn't She's still a bad guy. Yeah, no
matter how they wanted to wrap around it. You know.
So I did really find her sympathetic. I mean she
was she was just an ordinary person.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So that makes me wonder. So, now is Losing gonna
get that treatment? Are we gonna look into his past
and figure out what his problem is as well? Do
we care?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
His problem is? He has way too much God in
his life? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Look, but are the writers got is that what they're
gonna give us? I don't know. Are we so we
aposed to care about him too? And feel bad for
him as well?

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean we've only got two episodes left. I'm going
to say, next episode, theyre just it's going to be
you know, Darryl and Carol looking for Laurent, and it's
going to be the other group and at the final
episode will probably be you know who takes custody of him?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
So to speak, Well, you know we know who takes
custody of him, Darryl will so.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, I mean if the other group gets to him
first and hasn't bitten. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, I guess anything can happen at this point. That
would be kind of sucky for Darryl to lose the
girl you really liked, you know, or maybe possibly even loved,
and then now you've got this kid that you're kind
of nervous about taking a permanent responsibility for. As you know,

(24:51):
Carol like kind of calls him out, like, what are
you scared you're going to turn into me?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
He's like, no, yes, that is it. As he's but
you know, if he loses him too, he's gonna be
like in a bad way for a while. Right.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, and you know he was when he was talking
to Carol, He's like, He's like, I really was trying
to get back to you. I was trying so hard
to get back.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
To you at first at first, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Then it became harder. She's like and and she even yeah,
She's like that's okay, I get it. I get it.
So although was was the commonwealth in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I feel like it must be. She keeps talking, well,
maybe I don't know, he kept.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Bringing because he kept bringing up you know, Ohio is different,
and you know fireflies and so on and so forth.
So he wasn't thinking about I don't think he was
thinking about Alexandria because.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Oh I just googled, Yes it is in Ohio. Okay,
it's confirmed.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Okay, so that that would make sense.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Then people are saying most likely to lead all least
that's what Google tells me.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Okay, So okay, so that that makes sense. I guess
I probably could have looked that up. I just didn't
want to.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's what I'm here for. I'm a quick typer, you
go fast.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
But I mean, I I it was kind of funny
because when they were on the road, you could see
you can see some of that old you know chemistry again,
not romantic that kind, not that kind, you know, the
chemistry the two of them had together, and you can

(26:44):
see that it was it was kind of half a
step off.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, because they haven't been around each other for a
while right.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Now, as as a show or as the episode progressed,
you know, you could see them starting to sync up
a little bit more again. But I think part of
it was his I mean, I know part of it
was his being distraught over Isabelle and his conflicting feelings
over Laurent and you know, and also I think he

(27:14):
had guilt about she came all this way for him
but he couldn't make it back to her.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
And in fact, he's like, how did you even find me?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, it took him a minute to say, you know,
I'm glad you're here, thanks for coming.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know, I am thank you for coming. Yeah, but
it's you know, he's he's processing, yeah, processing, processing process.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
So speaking of processing, I feel like the writers really
just showed us their middle finger. Let me tell you why. Okay,
as they're walking, he's like, hey, you said someone came back.
Who was it?

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Oh not someone A feeling I'm like a feeling almost
were almost cussed out the TV.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Oh, I know, they could have done they could she
could have said Morgan came back.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah. I feel like that was the big f you.
And I feel like they literally did that on us,
on purpose, as like a baton switch. Hey everyone hang
onto this from forever to watch season two, right, were
really into this? What was she gonna say? How dare
they do that to the fans? I feel like that

(28:26):
was a very very rude, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
I'm gonna agree with you on that because like I said,
she could have said Morgan returned. That would have been
a big enough deal. Morgan returned with a kid, you know. Yeah,
it didn't have to be anything about you know, uh,
Mashone or or rick right, you know, it could have

(28:52):
been It could have been Meagan is now the you
know is now the governor of you know, Manhattan or
you know, Long Island.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Or whatever whatever. Yeah, And I mean it could have.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Been anything, anything that we had gotten from Fear of
the Walking Dead, you know, Dead City, or Ricky Michone,
the ones who lived. It could have been anything from
any of those three shows. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Yeah, it could have like get throw us something satisfy
everyone who has been speculating for ever. Yeah, we spent.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Almost an entire show speculating on what it might mean.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
So yeah, just to throw that. Oh, it was just
a feeling I had.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
No Oh my god, I was so irate. I'm like,
you've got to be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, that was That was the one part of the
show that really, while watching it really did upset me
because I'm like, that's that is so unfair to to
all the fans, because it has been a topic of
conversation and again, it could have been almost anything.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, it didn't have to be you were like you said,
it didn't have to be Ricky macheone. It could have you.
I don't know. She they could have made some shuit up.
I don't know, you.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Know, she could have said, uh, I don't know, uh,
what's your name? Got her her first boyfriend, Judith? You know,
Judith got her first boyfriend. You'll never believe this anything,
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Instead, we got a feeling, and her feeling was what
things got boring. Things were slow and started, so I
started to think about things that I had to go.
That was the feeling.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, Now, I mean whack right, I mean there was
so much more to her looking for him, and they
just kind of, I don't know, they made her reasons
to look for him dumb.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah. And not only that. So now are they trying
to say that Carol's character can only thrive in chaos
when it's too quiet and calm, I can't stay there,
I gotta go. Is that what they're saying?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I don't you know know. Maybe because I really thought
it was, you know, this whole time, it was she
got worried about.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Him, That's what it would have been. You know, that's
what I thought as well. But now they're making it
another reason, for a secondary reason.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
And I don't think that's the case. I mean, Carol
does okay. In the quiet, Carol does all right.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
I remember she ran off on her own.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah. Yeah, she lived in that little cabin all by herself,
you know.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
So she said in this episode, though, what if she said.
I can't remember the words verbatim, but it was something
to the effect that, oh, it got too calm to something,
too quiet, to something, and I needed to get out.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Of there, you know when really, all she could have
just said is I missed you.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, I need to know where the hell you were,
so I came.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, period, Yeah we got cut off. You hadn't checked in. Yeah,
I was worried.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, that would have been sufficient enough. Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Would have been the best answer. I had a feeling,
you know, something was wrong, and I went looking for you.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
I don't understand sometimes what the writers are trying to do.
I don't understand. They are always creating plot holes that
don't need to be there. They're always using the plot
as the easy way out for things. They just they

(32:52):
there's a term for that and I can't think of
what it is where they just literally we need this
to happen. We're just gonna make it happen. It doesn't
matter if it doesn't make sense. We want her to
mention being sad. So we're just gonna say this. It
doesn't matter if it makes sense with her character or
her history.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Right, because, like I said, history wise, her just saying
I was worried about you after you know, after that
radio message, we never heard from you, and I got worried,
so I went looking.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah, that was it. That's it.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
And that would have been a perfectly careful answer for
that question.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It would have a feeling. I am still I am
irate about that.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah I did. I did like the older couple.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
That was a cute situation. But that hold Port, the
whole town was full of old people that just died.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, and so they were just locking them in their
houses or in their properties. You know, Hi, mister so
and so, Oh look at you and you know.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Good morning hey. Waving at people as they stroll down
the street. That is the oddest thing. But I get it,
you know, And actually the character explained it. Well, He's like,
we're old, we're not burying anyone.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
It's easier to lock the gate. Yeah, and you know,
since all those houses had big old gates, it made
sense absolutely.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
I'm like, okay, but I did like that couple. It
was actually and I did like the interaction between Carol
and that woman. Yeah, although she thought she was Isabelle
the whole time.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, you could to make it easy, you know, because Carol,
you know, well, what do you mean, Isabelle's gone, there's
this strange woman in her place. Huh. And it does
turn out that apparently Carol knew at least a little
bit of French going in there. She said she took
was that two years of it although she was bad

(35:01):
at it? Yeah, but yeah, she knew a little bit.
So I wonder why she never mentioned that to to
what's his name?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And did Laurent not say his aunt was French?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
And then here comes this American, clearly American woman. Yeah, okay,
an okay, plot hole, okay, whatever, but you know, again,
raised me, she took care of me. She should be fluent,
she should be but okay, I'll let it go.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But it could be. I mean, she she did respond
to some things in French, she did, and it could
be that they thought, well, she's just she's speaking link
English for for the American who doesn't speak French.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Oh look at you see, you've given all the benefits
of the doubt. That is so nice. That is so nice.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I know I'm trying, but I did like that moment,
you know, because Carol really is she's Yeah, she had
done really well with the death of her daughter, or
not done really well, but you know, she had seemed
to have put it to rest, and this whole season

(36:13):
she's just it just keeps coming up. And so apparently
a lot of her trauma she never dealt with it.
She just buried it, right, and it's starting to bubble up.
And so, yeah, she's not doing real well with barn
doors right now.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
No, she's not. Yeah, that was unfortunate. She kind of
had a little memory that kind of grows her. That
would not be good if there was really something in there. Yeah,
you know, she got a little comfort from the woman
and that was nice. And I think that was Daryl
in the background kind of looking on like what's going

(36:51):
on over there?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, he was over there working on the car.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
M Yeah. So I did like them, and I have
to admit uh, the know how to make some eggs.
Let me tell you, you know, I make eggs. Those
eggs are probably delicious.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I'll take your word for it.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I'm like truffle and eggs. That probably is delicious.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
You know. There's a place here in town that makes
truffle fries, and I'm here to tell you, oh my god,
they are good. So I imagine eggs would be equally wonderful.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh yeah, especially if they're using real truffle and not
truffle oil. Oh my god, amazing, mmm delicious. See that
was true. And even Jenay said, oh yeah, I'm just
gonna eat your food off this plate.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Right. Daryl was like these are amazing. Yeah, And then
of course Carol Jesus.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yes, okay. Then that was you know, I thought, and
I thought.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
The old guy I thought was interesting. He's like, you know,
we've been here. You know, first we serve the Germans,
and then we served the Nazis, and then we served
the Americans, and now we you know.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Oh my gosh. Even his wife kind of made when
she was saying her little spiel to Janey. I was like,
oh my gosh, she called them Nazis. Oh my god,
you know, and she was like, what are you basically,
what do you try to say? I'm like, oh god,
to call them Nazis? Oh lord, she's about to die.

(38:26):
No immediately, she's gonna die.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, I mean I when she when
she realized her husband significant other had had sold them out, oh,
she was upset with him.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, she was like, what have you done?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Why would you do this?

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I did? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
For you?

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Well you shouldn't have, right, you know, Yeah, I don't
get it, like for her? For her? What? Why? Like
what does she promise? Like I think I'm us to
miss them? Like, okay, what did she say? You would
she would give you for her? Or you know? I don't.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
They never really said. It was more of a because
he did talk to them when she wasn't around. Yeah,
so I don't know, you know, maybe that they would
stop taking their food, maybe they would get extra things,
maybe they'd just be left alone.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Maybe oh well he affed up, Yeah he did so now, yeah,
you know, at least, you know, Carol and Darryl had
time to bury her for him. Because that was sad.
I'm like, oh that's I actually felt more sad for

(39:47):
the old lady than for Isabelle. Now, is that messed
up or what? I'm like, oh my god, I'm like,
that's so sad for the that couple. But I don't know.
I guess Isabel's was sad too, but it did not
affect me in any kind of way. I'm like, oh, well, bye,
that's awful and move on, and I went, you know,

(40:08):
on to the next didn't even have time to think
about it too much because the story, you know, you
kept moving, right.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
So I think it was because Isabelle's death was it
was sad but abrupt, and the older woman, while it
was also sad and abrupt, we got to linger with
it just a little bit, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, absolutely, so, I mean it's not like they could
have buried her. They had to go. So everything was like, okay,
that happened. Now we got to run. Yeah. So anyway,
so also, you know, Darryl is like leading Carol away
from all of that, and she doesn't really know where

(40:54):
they're going. He knows where they're going. They were going
to that k first, right, He's like, come on, come on,
oh my, oh my god. Communication skills are poor.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Well, it's not like he's ever had really especially when
he's been in distress, he's He's communication skills are about zero.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Look, I tried to give him a pass, but I'm like,
is she annoyed or what? She doesn't know what they're doing,
where they're going.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Who they're looking for. Yeah, you know, I mean she
I think she has a clue because you know, Isabelle
asked Darrell to look after you know, so she probably
did assume it's it's it's a kid of some kind. Yeah,
but you know, she's trying to ask questions. She's like, no, no, no,
And and I think that part of that was just

(41:41):
him processing Isabelle being not wanting you know, because if
he didn't have to talk, then he wouldn't have to
talk about it, right, And you can see that Carol
has poked at him to make him talk about Isabelle.
H because he doesn't want to, no, but Carol knows

(42:03):
he needs to.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
So you can see that, you know, they're they're because
she doesn't want to hurt him, you know, but she
wants him to process through what's going you know, what's
happened and you because he wouldn't even say what Isabelle

(42:27):
meant to him? Or who she was until about halfway
through the episode. A little over halfway through the episode,
he's like, you know, first it was just, you know,
she was a means to an end, you know, and
then you know, he's like, and I And then I
was I was trying to get back to you. But
then I stopped trying quite as hard.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, he didn't even really admit that he loved the woman.
I think he probably didn't even know that. He probably
didn't even know that un till it was too late.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, well, he knew he cared about her.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, but that's different. You know, I like someone that
we got a crush, right, but that's different than love, right,
And he knows Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Yeah, we always figured out when it's too late. Hindsight, hindsight,
you know, twenty twenty and all that exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
As a funny not related to the actual show, but
listening to the the after show, and the woman that
plays Janine apparently kept the mechanical head. So yeah, she
apparently she took that home with her at the end

(43:41):
of the show.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
That's a souvenir, I know, right, because she was talking
about they wanted to I guess they were trying to
make it as accurate as possible, and she she was
already gone, you know.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
She had done her her part and her her scene
was over, and she was on vacation with her husband
in this remote location. They had to go and get
a ruler in town and take pictures of her team.
And she's like, and it would probably be wrong for
me to say that I wanted that head, but I

(44:17):
have it.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I have it. That's so funny, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So I'm like, Okay, yeah, I can't. I gotta get it.
I gotta get it.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Actually, her death scene I also really liked. I liked
how she kind of liked just I don't know that's
sir took hold and she just imploded, Yeah, imploded. Basically,
I'm like, what a way to go out?

Speaker 2 (44:44):
You know, It's all I could think of, is he
Hugh Rey.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Which is so yeah, that's a little bit of irony, like,
you know, this is exactly you made this, and now
it's going to be served up to you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
Well, and you could see because there was that mirror
and she there's that moment where she just she's looking
at herself and she knows what's gonna happen. Well, maybe
not knows exactly what's gonna happen, but knows it's not
gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Oh. I bet she knew, because I think they were
testing on humans as well, people who hadn't turned Ah.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, it's probably true. Yeah, the the look of abject
horror on her face was pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Oh no, I'm about to die a horrible death dead.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
I'm just letting you know. I still would have shot
her in the head, yeah, just saying, just to be sure,
punctured her in that, you know, stewart her brain at
some you know, I would not have walked away.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I mean, because she could have just got up probably exactly.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
I mean we did see her eyeballs leak out of
her head, but that wasn't necessarily her brain.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yeah, because yeah, exactly. They don't need to see so
it probably could have just been her eyeballs. Yeah. I
don't know. I guess we have to just believe that
she literally did implode and there was nothing to get
up on the inside, you know, unless it's gonna be
a skeletal I guess. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Well, they seem to need some kind of fleshy frame
to keep it all together.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
So I mean, if it liquefied everything on the inside,
which it did appear to do, then brain was probably mushed.
But I'm just saying, be being me, I would have
shot her in the head anyway, just to.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Make sure, just to make sure, Yeah, it can't hurt, honestly, Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Or there were other things that they could have used to,
you know, skewer her brain, just to make sure. Mm hmm,
because the last thing we would want is her coming
back is a super zombie.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Oh my god, that would be absolutely ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I still am really curious to see what they're gonna
do with those variants later. Will they even reappear this season?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I don't at this point. It's just it's it's all
a chase to to who can get to Laurent first.
And I don't want to say at this point, I'm
kind of I'm kind of thinking that he's Laurent's gonna
end up bitten or they're gonna end it with you know,

(47:27):
a lot of ambiguity on what his ultimate fate is
at the end.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Hmmm. So you think, okay, so were we the audience
won't know what has happened to him?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Hmm.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Well, if they do that, I'm not going to mull
over it for too long because I see how the
writers like to play us on this show. Yeah, so
I'm not going to be like, what can it be?

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Can it be?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
I don't whatever. I'll find out next season. I don't know.
I'm not going to mull over it. But y'all are
gonna play us anyway, so I'm not worried. It is
what it is, right, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Like I said, I think they're gonna leave us where
there's gonna be ambiguity on whether or not he was bitten.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Maybe pull Alicia, even though he won't have to cut
anything off.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
We just don't know, like leaving it with maybe he
got bit, maybe he didn't.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Hmm, okay, maybe although like I did read somewhere that
they're gonna be Oh, I forgot the country already? Is
this Spain, Kriina? If you're still listening live, let me
know what country it is. Season three is supposed to
be in a different country, so they're not going home.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah. Now, I did see the pilot for the ash
for a previous for next season or next episode. He's
trapped in a car so rounded by zombies. He's not
having a good time. So I really hope they don't
kill Ash off.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Spain. Yeah, okay, I had it right, Yay, Thane, thank
you Karina.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
But uh so, yeah, I think next episode, like I said,
there's gonna be the chase for Laurent, but there's also
gonna we're gonna flash in on Ash for a little
while and see how he's been doing. And I really
hope they don't just like kill him off the last minute.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
No, I don't know, I don't think. Okay, So let's okay,
So how many people can fit in that plane?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Four? Three?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Three? Thanks?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Four?

Speaker 1 (49:47):
So let's the best case scenario four. That means it's
him as the pilot, carroll out, Darryl and Laurent, nobody else,
sorry for that other guy. And if they escape, they're
just we know they're not going to make it home.
They go somewhere else, right. I think that would be
my ideal ending to this season.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah, but when she sees him again, if he's still alive,
what is she gonna tell him?

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Okay, so i'd like you, I'm sorry, this is the truth.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
You know, my daughter died a long time ago, but
this is my best you know, this is my brother.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Yeah, and she won't even tell them the truth about
how what they really are. She'll just say, this is
all intensive purposes.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
This is my brother, this is my brother, and this
is the wrong you know. He he's his guardian now
yep kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
And I feel like Ash is the kind of character
that would just be mad about it but help them anyway.
He would still leave with them. He wouldn't just say.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Well, especially if they had Laurent with them.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, He'll see the kid and be like, oh, I
have to help the child, just like that other guy.
He's like tell you know, he says to Carol, tell,
tell Darryl, I did this for the kid, you know.
So Ash would do it for.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
The kid, right, Oh yeah, as long as they come in,
as long as they have Laurn with him, you know,
he's gonna be mad.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Butlronto would would be around his son's age. Yeah, so
you know I could see him fine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I feel like Ash is gonna make it through the season.
I feel like he might because he hasn't had that
much screen time. He hasn't, you know, he was around
and then not, so he's been supposed to be getting
gas and doing other things to prepare for them to leave.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, get the played fixed up and ready to go.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, I've got to believe he's gonna make it out
of this season alive. Because Carol doesn't know how to
fly a plane. Yeah, either does Darryl.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
So they make it Spain. And Spain's not that far
from France.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
So yeah, but they can't walk to Spain, can't. No,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I'm trying to remember what a world map looks like
and where Spain's at. I know it's I mean, it's
close to France. I know what it is.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Let's see, let me look at a map. Well, it
does touch, it does touch on the south. So technically,
I guess they could walk to Spain, depending on where
they are. But Saint Michelle is that in the north.
But they so it's Paris.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
They have a car.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
They do have a car, so they could drive down there. Yep, hmmm,
I don't know. I guess. I guess he could die
and they get in the car and drive Spain. That's
totally possible. Or they get in the plane, they get
to Spain and it crashes, and that's why they don't
go in further. They just crash there, but.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
It's in Spain, south of France.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
It is, but he doesn't know where he's going anyway.
Does he even have maps? Didn't he that way? Wasn't
that part of his problem? Like they didn't really know?

Speaker 2 (53:12):
No, the problem was is they didn't have navigation. Well
they have a certain amount of navigation, but they don't
have towers, they don't have Nora, they don't have weather reports,
you know, So I mean you could navigate a plane
more or less without a map.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Oh look it, looky, looky. That's right, Koreana did see it.
She goes she knows something.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Oh, I know she knows something.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Well, I'm curious. I think one of us is right,
or maybe both of us are wrong.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I don't right, it's hard to say. We're gonna find
out next week, probably because if they kill him off,
it'll probably be next episode.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Mm hmmm. That would suck so bad. I just like
that actor. I was used to watching him on what
was that ship he was on? But the Resident I
liked him on that show, so I'm like, he's a
good actor. They should keep him alive for a little
while longer, and they might.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Yeah, kas Karina is taunting us. Now, okay, I just
for anyone who is not on YouTube, I just want
you to know Karina who has watched all six episodes,
all right, because that's who Karina is. And now she's
just taunting us. We'll let you know that she's going, Oh,

(54:48):
I'll never tell. So yes, we know, Karina, we love you,
but we know.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yeah, and thank you for not telling.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yes, thank yous not telling. But yeah, I mean I
will say, okay at this point, I did like this
episode apparently much more than you did.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Look, I liked it high level. I liked it. But
I can never just watch without a critical eye. It's
just not in me to watch a show and not
critique it. I just have to. So high level. I
did like it, high level. I think it's the best
episode of the season so far. It was entertaining, it

(55:35):
wasn't slow. You know, I was eyes glued, I wasn't
looking at my phone, so it checked all the boxes
for entertainment value, right. I had a good time with it.
But yeah, I still, you know, I couldn't help it.
I noticed some things so well.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I mean I did too, Yeah, but you know I
was I was letting it go to enjoy it. Because
like you, I was, like, you know, Carol got shot
with one of those starts. Okay, I'm just gonna say
that it maybe, you know, because she wears that thick
ass leather coat, it didn't penetrate, whereas Janet was just

(56:16):
wearing a real thin shirt.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
And I was, you know, the fact that you know, Isabelle,
her her ending was rather abrupt, and I was a
little sad that her and Carol didn't have more of
a chance to get to know each other, because it
would have been even if she ultimately died, it would

(56:41):
have been nice to see her and Carol and Daryl together.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Yeah, even if, like I said, even if Isabelle didn't
make it out of this season, even if they had
I don't know, a couple of days like it, had
she been with them at that old couple's house, you
know what I mean, or just long enough to find Lauran,
you know, that would have been good. And then he'll
find a way to kill her. I don't know if

(57:05):
she get bit or something. Who knows. I'm not saying
I'm fine with her being dead, but they killed her
too soon. It was too soon, you know, they could have.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Like found Laurent and went to offer him up to
the zombie and she threw herself in front of him.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Right, So maybe Okay, So Karna points out, it's only
follow who's the guy who left with Laurent and Cadron
who was the guy who said, I'll do it for
the kid. You know, I did it for the kid.
So maybe by some insane chance, he'll come back around
and find them, and maybe he'll go to Spain with them.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Mmm. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
I don't see fullus a quote unquote final girl. He's
not gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
He gonna die well, or he could even just say no,
I'm gonna stay in France. This is yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
But he has nothing to stay for her?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Well, I mean he did, he wasn't in a different
group for a while, that's true. So maybe he could
go back to them because basically he followed for Laurent,
so he could go back to his.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Group, that's true. We'll see, We'll see what they do
with him. For some reason, I feel like he's gonna
bite it. I just can't see him making it out right,
And I'm.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
With you on that.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
But if he just decides to go back instead of dying.
I would be okay with that as well.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Yeah, I mean, it would be okay for him to live,
you know, just you know, he could have his wandering
off into the sunset moment. I'm okay with that. I mean,
he was, he wasn't. He's been kind of a bigger
part of the last couple episodes, but he hasn't really
been a big part of the show. So you know,
his death wouldn't be I don't want to say not significant,

(59:01):
but it wouldn't be like Isabelle's death, right because technically
we haven't spent as much time with him as we
did the old lady in the last episode.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Yeah, well, you know wils has to die, So now
Lo Sang has to die. Bye.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Oh yeah, he's got to go. He's got to go.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
He's gonna be dead by someone's hand. I think probably
Darryl's going to do it. He'll kill him.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
That would be good.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Yeah, I feel like that would be ideal because now
he's he signed his death warrant by doing making that choice,
so now you will die.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I could see I could see Darryl, you know, throwing
him to the zombie that he had set up for Laurent. Yeah,
that would be poetic.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Get in there, stop him and then just let him
get bitten or chewed up. Mm hmm, yeah mmmm that
could work. Okay, we'll see. So we got like, what
two more episodes? Yep, hmm, okay, is that it, Lisa?
Anything else? You have anything else to cover?

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Like I said, I I really I I hadn't planned
on coming on to this episode and you know, tearing
it apart like you did.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Sorry, not sorry, that's just me, y'all will come back
again and again. You know, I'm not just gonna let
it go. I can't do it, I know, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Mean, I, like I said, I did enjoy the I
enjoyed the moments that there is these moments between Carol
and Daryl that again you could see when they first
saw each other, there was that that instant togetherness again.
I mean that hug was you know, no, it's genuine,

(01:00:55):
it was genuine. Yeah, I missed you. I can't believe
you're here. And then you know they're when they were
walking in France, well we're definitely not in Ohio anymore, right,
you know, and he's like, yeah, this is insane, No,
it's weird. It's just weird. Insane. It's just weird, you know,

(01:01:19):
that little banter between the two of them, and you know,
a couple of their moments. I just I really liked
the reconnection, and I liked the fact that it was
a little awkward for them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Because anyone who has ever spent a lot of time
away from someone, they loved it trying to you don't
just go back to the way things were, you know,
there's there's always that little bit of awkwardness.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
You have to warm up again.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, And and I like the fact that that they
let you know again, there was that that instant bond
again as soon as they saw each other and they hugged,
but then it was you know, the reality of trying
to remesh themselves into each other's lives.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
It didn't take long. I mean, honestly, one of those
scenes you mentioned them having that little bicker, I thought
the scene that was really cute was when he was
telling her to like give gas in the car and
she's doing too much and he's like you just knowing,
you know, and she's like what the you know, she's
talking under her breath to him and he's like what,
She's like nothing, And the.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Old guy was just like, oh, this is a fun conversation,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Like, I'm thoroughly entertained by this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Thank you, I'm enjoying the show. Yeah, it was just
and then by the end, by the very end of
the episode, you can see that they're they're back in
sync with each other. Hey, I found a map. That's good,
let's go, you know, I mean, and they were they
were a working unit again. M hm. And I did

(01:02:55):
like that they did that, that that it wasn't instantly easy,
you know, that there was some irritation, that there was
some regetting used to each other, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
And I'm sure they'll have a couple more bumps as
we go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Oh yeah, but I mean they've always had kind of
a not they've never really had fight fights, but but
they've had some strained moments.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
So. But if you've ever had a long term relationship
with anyone, you know, for a long term friendship, that
happens sometimes, you know, it just it just does you know.
There's no such thing as a perfect relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Oh no, and none, none of them. Whether it's a sibling,
just a best friend, or you know, a significant other's
you just can't something is wrong if you have a
perfect situation where you never bicker exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
You know, it's you shouldn't be in any kind of
relationship whatever. You know, the foundation of it is that
you're always in a fight. But you know, if you
never fight, then there might be something wrong there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Too, exactly. And that's why I think they That is
one thing that they've managed to maintain is the balance
with these two characters. It's still good right now. I
think it's especially with the actors weighing in on things,
it's gonna be hard to mess up that dynamic. They've
really got it down.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yeah, well, because I mean they really know their characters.
My character wouldn't do that, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
It stop the infanity that we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Right, I mean, so they do have enough pull that
they can they can stop certain things. I'm sure that
they really think it goes against their characters nature, so
that that's helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
And I and the two of them actually have you know,
good chemistry off off screen too. They generally are genuinely
are friends. They actually like each other, so that helps
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Oh definitely, it helps them be friends on the show too.
Friends friends.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
No, there's no coffee here anyway, But other than that, no,
I think we're good. To end the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Derek, okay, great, well this has been a fun one.
Thank you everyone for listening to the entire episode. We
appreciate you for doing that, and also special thanks to
those of you that listen live and left comments. Thanks Karina,
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