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Speaker 2 (01:14):
Gonna just jump on in today.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
We are doing the season premiere, season three of Daryl Dixon.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
What do you think. I actually rather liked it, Yeah,
I did. It was it was kind of a fun episode.
It was kind of interesting to see Carol not being
the one taking care of things but having to be
taken care of mm hm, you know, because normally she's
the one that's you know, kicking ass and taking names

(01:40):
and and I mean in Daryl's right there right alongside her.
Don't get me wrong, but this is one of the
few episodes we've really seen Carol at a at a
point where she really wasn't able to take care of herself.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, she definitely needed some help. She was injured, and yeah,
I did like seeing that dynamic. I also liked seeing
them kind of, I guess, kind of return to the
roots of kind of talking to each other. And so
that was like reminiscent of the old days to me. Yeah,
you know, and she's calling him out for hiding stuff

(02:11):
and he's okay, fine. You know, their relationship growth was good.
So we can see that things have been happening, you know,
as the time has been passing, right, they're not walking
in silence. But also I did like the whole vibe
of like kind of traveling and surviving, you know, place
to place, looking for food, fighting the walkers. That kind

(02:35):
of thing is a throwback to me, and I definitely
like that.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
And I'm pretty sure that can of hot dogs is
just going to be an ongoing gag for the rest
of the season. I'm sure of it. At this point,
it's gonna be nasty.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I cannot imagine she's gonna open that thing and she's
gonna be so disappointed.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's gonna be nasty. Oh god, I honestly, I'm gonna
be real chru I've never heard of hot dog in
a can. I mean, Vienna sausages, yes, but hot dogs.
Have you ever had hot dogs and a can? I
have not. Maybe it's a British thing. Maybe it's a
UK than it might be a UK thing. I'm not sure.
All I know is I've never seen hot dogs and

(03:16):
a can before. No me neither. And there probably was
at this point, what fifteen years old or more or more? Yeah, nasty.
I will say this. I did kind of find this interesting.
So people really don't talk about their age too much

(03:36):
on this show, you know, and when Darryl's when they
were on the bridge, and Daryl was like, you know,
I was really young when this whole thing first started.
And I'm like, god, he really was, wasn't he. Yeah,
he's like a child.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Like have you looked at those seen any of those
old videos of them?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Is like, wow, night and day, how different he looks. Yeah,
I guess, you know, because we've been watching this for
so long, and you know, so he as he you know,
we've just watched him. You know, it's not like we
saw him at the very first episode and now you
know what I mean, So it's not like this sudden
aging or anything. We you know, we watched him mature

(04:16):
and everything. But I got to really that that really
maybe think I'm like, man, he really he was like
probably what maybe eighteen or so when when the Apocalypse happened.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, he's really young and now he's not so young.
And honestly, it shows everyone looks a little bit worse
for the wear. But you know, I guess that would
happen in the Apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh yeah, you age a little faster. Well, you know,
if he didn't, you know, if he looked just as
dewey eyed as he did on the very first episode.
I mean i'd I'd have some questions, Yeah, like what
is what vampire stuff? Is he drinking? Yeah, exactly, well,
and I was, I mean he didn't exactly look dewey eyed.
I mean he was. He was pretty hard even a
the very beginning. Yeah, but he had a baby face

(05:02):
kind of Yeah, but he but when he said, you
know I grew you know, this is you know, I
was a kid, and yeah, he really was. And I
kind of liked that reminder. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Actually, I think so. I suspect this season we're gonna
get a lot more of Darryl's history, stuff we've never
seen before because that remember the flashback that we were
getting during this episode. That was kind of interesting to me.
So I'm curious to see as the season goes on,

(05:34):
what we're gonna learn about Darryl, what will be uncovered
about him and his past that influences him now that
we don't already know.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah. Yeah, because we had the they talked a lot
about what was going on as they went through the
tunnel and the hallucinations they had. Yeah, and you know,
and he really was very reluctant to talk about what
he saw m M, but that he finally kind of
opened up to Carol about it, and Carol was like,

(06:04):
you know, I found it very cathartic, and I could
see from her point of view why her experience, while
not it wasn't great what they went through on that tunnel,
in a way, it really kind of helped her put
to rest some of her demons. Yeah, it gave her release.
But it didn't do that for Darryl, at least not
that we know of yet. Yeah. No, it seemed to
have stirred up a lot of stuff. Yeah, he's not

(06:28):
the kind of person that's ever really dwelled on the past.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, he's not. He doesn't talk about it. He keeps
it again, he keeps it to himself, right, right, He hides.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Things and he doesn't you know, he'll, I mean, he
will occasionally talk about his brother, Earl, and he did.
He did speak a little bit last season when they
had him in that classroom area and they were trying
to interrogate him. M h. He did speak a little
bit about when he was young, but it was not,

(07:00):
you know, an emotional sharing, right. So yeah, I think
this trip is you know, really brought up a lot
of unresolved feelings in Darryl. MM hmm, yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I think that's some groundwork that was laid for
his story, which is good. I don't really know what
we're in store for with Carol. I have no guesses,
but I kind of side note to this. I noticed
that this season does not have a subtitle, which I'm
really happy about, yeah, because I did not want another subtitle,

(07:36):
so they did not do that to us. So I'm
not sure how.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Obviously, Carol and Daryl are together all the time for
most of this show, so I'm curious to see what
they're gonna do with her this season, because she seems
like on her healing path.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Finally, Yeah, of course she's I mean in more ways
than one, because she's gonna I'm sure she has a concussion.
You know, she's got to you know, she's seeing everything
in triple as she said she might.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Be walking around in the wilderness, yeah, of Spain of Spain, like, oh.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, I think she When she got up and she
started to wander away, there were young girl voices off
in the distance. Oh god. And Carol is not her
normal cautious self. No, she is not, you know, kind
of like you know, when Darryl covered her mm hmmm,

(08:33):
and you know, keep them, you know, from being found.
And she's like, no, it's hot, it's hot. You know.
I'm like, you're's a Lulu girl. Shut it, shut up, yeah,
you know. And Daryl had to put his hand over
her mouth. Yeah. Yeah, And she's not She's almost childlike
in a way right now, just not real. She's not

(08:55):
being very cautious, she's not thinking ahead. She she seems
to be having some trouble processing. And I'm sure that
that will go away as we she heals. But that's
not uncommon for, you know, someone who's had a major
head injury. Yeah, that's a you know, huge knot. And

(09:15):
she had the you know, the the infection. Did you
happen to see what it was if he pulled out
of her shoulder.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
You know, it was some kind of metal, square like
squarish shape thing that was flat. So I don't know exactly.
I guess it must have just been something from the boat.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I guess. I just I wasn't you know, I was
like because I couldn't quite make out what it was,
so I thought maybe yeah, and I was sure it
was something from the boat. Yeah. That scene, I'm like,
just pull it out. Hurry up, what are you doing?
Just pull it out? Yeah? Like, why are you doing?
Take you so long? You're making it worse. Yeah, Well,

(09:52):
we'll see what Carol does.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I do think though, like even thinking about when you know,
Julian showed up on their balcony, right, she was instantly
nice to him, and of course they did have an
ulterior motive, right, they wanted some help, But she was nice.
And usually she's not that nice out the gate to anyone,
even when she's trying to manipulate them. So I feel

(10:13):
like she was a little bit different. So I guess
we're going to see if it's just the head entry
or if because she's on this healing journey after her
experience in that tunnel, she feels softer now.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
But when they were on the boat, you know, when
they were sitting there having the coffee or gin or
whatever it was in the cups, Yeah, she said, I
feel lighter. I don't feel as you know mean, yeah
they mean, but you know did she She wasn't feeling
as brittle anymore, and she was feeling hopeful, which is

(10:50):
something that she really hasn't felt. And honestly, I'm not
sure Carol, has ever felt that because even before I mean,
she was going through her own personal hell, even before
the apocalypse. You know, she had a very abusive husband,
she had her daughter, who she did love. You know,
it couldn't have been a great She wasn't having a

(11:11):
great life even before the you know this, you know,
the Walkers showed up. Yeah, she really didn't have a break. Honestly.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
It was one thing to another to another, and moments
where she was in love, but you know that was yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Know, and and she really hasn't had you know, I
don't think Carol has had a lot of grace in
her life. And I didn't mean that as a joke either.
I'm sorry, Yeah, sorry about that, I mean any other
day way. But you know, she's she's just she's really

(11:46):
had a hard life. And I mean, and you know,
she's and she went from this very timid and broken
person to you know, someone who became very competent and
a leader of sorts, but she was always still very brittle,
you know. And she lost her daughter, and you know,

(12:07):
she lost you know, her adopted son, and you know,
the kids that she had gathered up after the fall
of the prison. You know, all that bad and you know,
so she's she's had a real tough go of it,
you know, and you know, Rick kicking her out for
for killing for killing the people that had the disease,
and yeah, right, yeah, she's she hasn't had the best

(12:31):
luck here, No, she hasn't, you know. So it's kind
of nice. I mean, I think we're seeing kind of
a side that we've actually never seen from Carol, which
is someone who is not quite as brittle, quite as broken,
maybe a little more open to people and experiences because she's,
you know, she was she told him that she was

(12:52):
excited about what they were going to see, so that
that's that's very different than normal Carol. Yeah, it is,
and I can't say that I hate it. You know,
it's nice to see that they've given her some peace. Yeah,
I like that. You know.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's good to see different versions of her, which we
have seen over the years, right We've seen different iterations
of her. But I like this one and I like
their relationship right now. I kind of just like, you know,
I think for the first episode, they did a good
job with that part, so I'm curious to see what's next.
But one thing they did in this episode that I

(13:31):
didn't really love, which is something they've been doing a
lot in the Darryl Dixon world, you know his show
is that's like we get these characters that seem really
interesting and then they kill them immediately.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah. Well I do know that this one the character
they had, he was only available for one episode. Yeah,
so that wasn't just them killing him off to kill
him off. They had too if they were going to
have him on the show.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Well, I thought that they wanted someone to be that,
you know, that catalyst, and they knew that that person
would die, and they said, hey, is this guy available. Sure, yeah,
he could do it, and he's available for one day.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Perfect. Not that they made that character for him. That's
not what I understood. Is that wrong? Well, like, well,
the way they were talking is, you know, I think
they had initially planned to have that character on there
just a little bit longer, And I could be wrong
on that. Maybe I'm misunderstood. But he's like, nope, you know,

(14:31):
you got me for one day, and they went, okay,
here we go. Well they did a lot of scenes
in one day. M hmm.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Because Julian the character, he's all over this episode. He
was on that whole trip, you know, But I liked him.
I thought that could have been a good addition to
their little group. And of course I always know, don't
get too attached to any of the characters we meet
right along the way, because they discard them like no
one's business. As we know, because we didn't even or

(15:00):
anything about those previous characters from last season.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Nothing. It was like they never existed basically. Although I
will say when Julian got the head injury, I first
thought was, Oh, he's gonna buy die on the bottom
of that boat and year they're gonna have to lay
him persons. That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I said, he's gonna turn while he's down there, but
he did not. He turned later, which was not surprising
at all.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
So but that is like typical.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I think we're gonna meet a lot of people this
season that we may or may not like, and they're
gonna be just gone by the end of the season.
Maybe some of them will carry over, maybe not doubt it.
I feel like they wanted to. It felt this episode
felt like a clean slate, almost totally disconnected to me
from last season.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, kind of. I mean, they do refer you know,
they talked a little bit about Lauren. You know, they
talked a little bit about going through the tunnel and
did enjoy the little play on they're you know, Oh,
I guess this is why they call it that shit crazy.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, I mean they had, I feel like they had
to do those kind of like throwaways or whatever. But ultimately,
you could start watching this right now, Season three, episode
one and not feel disconnected from anything, not feel like
you missed anything.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Because you know, Carol and Darrell are together. They're not
looking for each other, we don't, you know, we know
you can see just by the way they are on
screen right now why they are important to each other.
Mm hm. And you know, so, yeah, I think you're right.
I think if someone who hasn't watched the previous episodes
or even isn't very familiar with The Walking Dead m hm,

(16:44):
they could probably jump in right here. And because they're
trying to get home, but home doesn't mean a whole
lot right now, because it's been what a year or
two now that they've been over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's been a while. That's been a while, and so long.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I wonder what the people at home are thinking. You
think they think they're dead?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Probably. Yeah. I mean it's it is very possible that
they think that you know that they're still alive but
just can't get back m hm. Because I mean they
know that both Carol and Daryl are survivors. They do
know that Carol left to go find Darryl, right, and

(17:28):
Carol did have that one last message before she you know,
before she was disconnected with with Alexandria m h. So
that didn't last very long and she didn't get all
the information, but you know, they at least knew at
that point she was still alive and looking for Darryl.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, Sue, Yeah, they Yeah, that's very interesting and I'm
curious to see. I think personally, if I obviously the
end of this series, which will be next season, it's
all he said. I think obviously the end will be
they actually make it home. If they don't make it home,
I would be so angry, like what was the point

(18:08):
of all this? So I ultimately, at the end, they
will make it home and we may or may not
have a Rick, you know interaction.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
People have been murmuring about that. It's funny world. We
just started season three and people are already thinking about
the end. Yeah, well, I mean, since we know that
it's going to end, and it would be I mean, honestly,
it would be kind of cool to me, because I
haven't heard any rumors. I mean, I know The Walking
or Dead City is going to have one more season,

(18:41):
but I don't know if it's going to go beyond
that either. I think it would be kind of cool
if if this was kind of the end the end
for this universe, to have Carol and Darryl return and
see Morgan, who's return with his daughter. Oh, that would
be nice, you know, and to see Rick with Micheon

(19:03):
and and and the kids, and and you know, Darryl
had a really close relationship with Judith, you know, to
be able to you know, say I made it home,
you know. And I would not be unhappy if the
final episode was just getting back as many of the
characters from all of the universes that had interacted, Yeah,

(19:27):
for a final goodbye. I wouldn't hate it.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
I think it would be satisfying to everyone who hung
in there, yeah and watched all of the shows.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, you know belize you know, if they because we're
going to have We'll have this season and then Dead
City will come up in between and I'm thinking and
that that's their last season. And then if this is
the last season of Carol and Darryl, you know, the
Daryl Dixon Show, then that would be you know, they

(19:57):
could they could have that final episode with Darryl and
Carol walking in and having you know, and again there's
Morgan and Rick and all these people that had been
flung throughout the universe, right, even Maggie can show go
back up. You know, Hey, look I brought electricity. I
don't know, right, we don't know whatever whatever, And I

(20:21):
mean it would be kind of a really nice little
send off, you know. And I'm not saying everyone back that,
you know, all the actors that might want to come
in for just that one last episode, it would be
really kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, I think so too. But okay, so back to
this episode, I got on a tangent. Sorry what else?
So you know, I think one so again, every time
there's something I like, there is something to counter that
that I don't like. For example, like I really liked
the time on the boat when the storm was coming.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
The storm looked cool.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know, we saw on the little after discussion how
it was all cgi and all that looked really good.
It was all exciting, yay, cool, and then like this
climax comes and then the next thing you know, they're
just washed up on the shore.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm like, no, no, I hated that so much. Yeah,
I'm like, what happened? Here's my question? If they were
only eleven days out from from North America, how did
they get back in Spain? Exactly?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
They said, he said eleven to seventeen days. That's how
long it should have taken. Like, did they get turn
They must got turned around.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I don't know. I mean, I know a storm could
push a boat a lot faster, don't get me wrong.
But either they were way closer to Europe than I
thought they were, or I mean, I guess. And we
don't know how long the storm lasted either, because again
it went from the storm to you know, them washed up.

(21:56):
So I mean, if it was a multi day storm,
a big one that really pushed them hard, maybe so.
But yeah, I'd like to know. I would have liked
to have known what happened.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yeah, same, because they did not get very far because
just how the countries all connect, Spain would be like
it's south of the UK, right, just a little bit
like southwest, but not that far, so.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Almost back where they started in France.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, yeah, which is interesting. So but again, like they
kind of play us a little bit when it comes
to the timing of anything. Yeah, and we've set that
time and time again.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
They could have.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Been in the water three days a week before, he
said that, and he figured, like he felt like they
might have been lost.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
You know, it could have been.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
That afternoon, It could have been I don't know how
long it was, but one would think they would have
been further out, too far to be, you know, on
the shores of Spain.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
But yeah, maybe not. My brain was, you know, because
he was freaking out over the you know that whole
you know, this is what what washed me out. I
don't know, you know, how to navigate, blah blah blah.
I'm like, you know what, as long as you hit
anywhere North America is South America, anywhere in that direction,
as long as you are heading you know, towards the sun,

(23:31):
you know, or away from the sun. Wait, which way
does the sun come up? It rises in the east,
it sets in the west. So as long as they
are the sun is behind them right in the morning,
and they're stailing towards it. At night, they're going in
the right direction. That's all that really matters. It's water. Yeah,
and there's not a whole lot in the middle of
the Atlantic. No.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Actually, I love the part where they find the map
and Carol says, that's not how you spell Mexico, right, Like, oh,
you're not in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
This is not right. We're not where we're supposed to be,
you know. But yeah, I mean because again, I mean,
if you're if you're aiming for a particular location, like
if they were trying to hit Florida, or if they
were trying to hit you know, Canada or whatever, you know, Yeah,
then mapping out where you are by the stars and
everything else would be important. As long as all you're

(24:26):
trying to do is hit a continent as large as
North America. Yeah, I mean, as long as you're pretty
much aligned with the sun, you're fine, right, because you're
just going from east to west. I mean, north and
south might be a little bit more difficult, but they're

(24:47):
going from the east to the west, so you know,
sun's behind him in the morning and it's with you know,
in front of him at night. And as long as
that's happening, you're good.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, I agree, it's it's it's weird, but you know, Okay,
so they're in Spain now. I think one interesting thing
about them. You know, once they landed there pretty quickly.
You know, these people, I don't know if they're going
to be villains or antagonists, you know or what. The
people with the mask on they look pretty interesting. I'm like,

(25:20):
what is this? They're trying to scare people with these masks.
They're looking kind of intimidating obviously, you know, and uh.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Darryl had to hide, you know, they hit out like,
oh my god, who is that? But I thought that
was interesting.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I want to see what's going to happen with them,
But from like the little commercials and stuff I've seen,
I'm not sure if we're going to see them right
away again.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I think they're going to turn out to be the
bad guys, the ones, because we know that they're going
to find a community. Apparently the community has to give
tribute to another group mm hm. And I think that
that's going to turn out to be these guys.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, but so does that mean we're in store for
another community fight that Darryl gets involved in, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Like another yeah, well, yeah, I do know because I
watched the previews for the season upcoming, you know, a
review that they were doing at the end of the show,
and you know, Daryl was saying to Carol, I don't
want to do this again. We can just let these
people be. We don't have to come in and help

(26:35):
this whole community figure out how to do things. But
of course they will, and Carol's just like, but we
need to be there to help them. You know. I
think Daryl's done with that whole idea, see soft Tart
at Carol, we have to help them. Yeah. So I
don't know, and it's hard to say. I'm pretty sure

(26:55):
that Carol has been picked up by people from that
community that she wants to help mm hm. So you know,
I guess we'll find out.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, because I think it was that community that we're
in the that was in the jeep, because you know,
they just like looked like regular people. You know, they
weren't trying to have masks on and scare people. You know,
when he saw the jeep drive by and then he
ran back and Terra was gone.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So she probably did run into those people.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
And you know, I guess we'll see what happens, but
it feels very washed repete to me right now with that,
like with the whole community thing, helping communities, even how
they came to shore, like someone had mentioned that that
is exactly what happened to Daryl basically in season one,
and even from finding the map to figure out where

(27:44):
he was, you know, he saw something and he read
and figured out where he was, So it was kind
of like poppy paste.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Is that what they're doing? I you know, I have
a feeling they're going. I mean, I don't think that
Darryl and Carroll will walk away from this community. But
at the same time, I kind of hope that there's
more of them wandering and meeting more communities and trying
to do different things this season. M you know, I

(28:16):
mean they could. I know that they stripped the boat down,
but that doesn't mean that they couldn't go back and
fix the boat. Yeah, it doesn't mean that. So you know,
I wouldn't mind seeing I wouldn't mind seeing you know,
a couple episodes of you know, Darryl trying to fix
a boat. I mean, because honestly, unless they happen to run.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Across someone else with the plane, which would be stupid
if they did. Yeah, they have to get back in
the water to make it to the you know, the
United States, So that's the only two ways you can
get the boat or plane.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's not like they're
going to take a train across the water. No, not
at all.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
And I don't see him women, No, but I am
curious to see, you know, what's gonna happen here? Is
it going to feel more like a repeat just a
different group of people, you know, different slightly different situation.
It's like, you know, obviously different language, right, but is
it the same kind of feeling? Are they doing the
same thing? I hope not, but we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, yeah. I mean we know that Daryl was in
France long enough that he started speaking French, so we
know he was there for a while, you know, he was.
And I don't think that they're going to have him
or Carol together. I don't think they're going to have
them settle in, you know, because he was all ready

(29:46):
to go. He would have left on that boat. But
then well you know Laurent and you know that whole thing,
so it'd be you know, and whoever that boat captain
was apparently. I mean, they seem to make landfall, not regularly,
but it seems to be a sort of run. So

(30:06):
maybe they could run into that person again. Mm hmmm.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I guess we'll have to see. But oh, we didn't
talk about London at all. We didn't really talk about.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Big Ben Yeah, or how all those walkers. That was
a lot of walkers. Yeah, what was he calling them?
He was calling them squid squid. Yeah, and he had
this whole explanation why He's like, see simple, I'm like,
all right, okay, whatever you know. It's like a to
B B two C C to D S.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, okay, here we are squid, not like no, I sure,
whatever you say.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Quid's like squid and this is and I'm like, no,
I'm gone, I'm lost. Yeah, now I do. And I
guess because there hasn't been anyone else there since they
they you know, knocked out the tunnel. I guess these
walkers have just been sleeping. Isn't the right term, but
I guess, and their non active state.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, and these are just all the people, all the
citizens of London. Because Julian was saying, yeah, nothing could
get in but no one could get out either, so
all the people just perished slowly. Now they're all, I
guess kind of in a they were, you know, when

(31:24):
it's quiet and nothing's moving around, they're just kind of
there in a stasis kind of, I guess.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well. And it does kind of though, make me wonder
because I mean, Carol and Daryl walked for quite a while.
I mean, they walked across the countryside, they walked into
the city and there wasn't a single walker. Yeah, so
I'm wondering why he couldn't during one of their quiet
times have snuck out of the city like they walked in. Yeah,

(31:53):
you know, instead of ziplining across I mean, and even
if he's ziplining across the country, I realized that they've
kind of blocked off London that I would hope that
the whole of England is not like that. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, I don't know, but I know that the ziplining
thing was kind of cool, but it was also a
throwaway kind of like they did in Dead City. Remember
in the first season of Dead City, we saw them
ziplining and then we never saw it again.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Well, it's because it was that one group of it
wasn't the normal people that we ended up following. You,
Is that one smaller group that was trying to stay
away from him that was doing the ziplining.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, but still I feel like if they think that's
the best way to get around because of all of
the dead, then maybe some people from the other group
would have used it.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Maybe not, I don't know, IM nippicking.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Maybe, but you know, here we got to see one
scene of it, of course, because they only were in
London for.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Literally two seconds.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah, we never got to see that infrastructure, you know,
go to work or anything.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
He just showed up here. He's on the balcony, right. Well,
we know that according to the little you know of
the place card there two weeks later, you know, right,
so they were there for quite a while. I wonder
what they were eating other than candy.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Candy they well, they obviously went through every apartment in
that building. Yeah, so I'm sure they found some stale
crackers or more chili or I don't know, whatever, tomatoes,
I don't know, random can stuff that people have in
their cupboards. Yeah, that can be there for fifteen years

(33:33):
and not go bad. That would be harder to do
in that country. I think because they don't use this
many preservatives if we do.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Well, there's that. And I mean they don't have the
unlike America that they don't have a lot of guns
now and they don't they don't even really have the
wildlife like we do here. Pretty much most of England
is well it's it's pretty well cultivated. M h. I
mean there's a reason for that. It's a it's an

(34:01):
island nation. And it's not very big. No, it's not
very big. It's honestly, so many of the countries are
so small. That's how they're able to go to like
spend the weekend in this country. You know, it's like
a train ride right and there.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
And you can't get out of one of our states
in the in the US that you know, it takes
hours and hours and hours just to get out of
one state.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Seems like, so yeah, it's you know, was a comedian.
I was listening to comedian once and he was talking
about it. It's like you can drive for seven hours,
it's still be in Texas. You don't understand if you
drive seven hours in you know, in the European Union,
you know, you're like seven countries away. The cheese tastes funny.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, it's facts though. So, yeah, the
England is not a big country, not.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Really, no, and you know, I mean it. You know,
they have separate towns and stuff, but I mean they're
really why walking distance from each other? Mm hm, and
you know, and it's it's pretty hard for Americans to
kind of wrap their head around it, which is why
I said, I'm kind of surprised. And it wasn't that
he said that. He when he said he couldn't get out,

(35:14):
if he meant he couldn't get out of London or
couldn't get out of the UK. You know what, I
think he met London.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I think because you know, they blocked off the entry
and exit to that city, like that was the biggest city.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, but Carol and Daryl just walked right in. They
sure did, because everybody was dead. Yeah. So that's why
I'm saying, I don't know, because he technically could have
walked out the same way they walked in.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. Maybe he didn't want to, He's
been alone for so long. Maybe he was just comfortable there.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah. Maybe because I mean they you know, with them walking,
I mean they they walked a while, you know, across
some bridges and some countryside and they know ever saw
any walkers, and you know, they were quite a ways
into London. Actually, you know, it wasn't until they got
that walker there in the phone booth actually noticed him

(36:09):
and started pounding that the other.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Look, it's not good like they're gonna start explaining stuff
to us now at this late stage in the game.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
They're not. We're not gonna know why.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
You know, why did Julian not try to leave? Why
were the walkers only in like the you know, small
dense area.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I guess we're just supposed to just take it at
face value, as we always are supposed to with this show.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, because we didn't. You know, as they walked across
the countryside, they didn't see any I mean, they didn't
see a whole lot of anything actually in England. And
now I suppose it's possible because you know, as things
were raging that, you know, people were just coming from
the countryside into into London and it was irricadd and

(37:01):
so most of the country was there when it collapsed.
And it turns out it wasn't just the dead that
killed London it was factions and people fighting and resources.
I'm sure you know resources were not great. M hmm yeah,
I don't know. M let's see what else? What else

(37:23):
do we not? Oh? What did you think of the intro?
Did you like the new intro? Yeah, it was kind
of cool. Yeah, I thought it was cool.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I liked that they used like the same music but
kind of changed it just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah, had a little bit of a Spanish flair to it.
Mm hmm. Absolutely, it's cool. I liked it.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
I kind of liked how it started and it had
the you know the quote at the beginning, I have
my dead and I have let them go. Yeah, so
I mean, actually, to be honest, this up so it
was nicely done between like the CGI work, how things look.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
The color grading, it was very nice looking. It was
nice looking.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
It wasn't too dark, it wasn't I can appreciate that, Yeah,
because you know how we had issues with like Fear
of the Walking Dead, that color gradient they had on
that thing.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Oh God, you know they have you in dark tunnels
and you know, dark and just let us see what's
going on for God's sakes, And I do know that
like the picture you have here. You know, they actually
were using drones and stuff to take video footage of

(38:39):
you know, like those parts and that they were kind
of titching everything in together.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, they actually didn't do any physical like recording in
London at all. All of it was actually done in Spain,
with exception of this drone footage, you know, So they
like transformed the whole street, yeah, to look like it
was London from like a certain floor up. It was
all CG works, CGI work look very interesting. I mean,

(39:08):
they've got skills, They've done a good job with that.
I can't complain that way.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, I didn't, you know, I didn't really didn't feel fake.
M m. You know, there was a there was a
nice feel to it and they were talking that I guess.
It was just horribly hot when they were had all
those walkers, like everyone's at all the makeup. It's just
super super hot, and they had all the shrubbery and

(39:36):
stuff attached to them, and so yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, it was good. I I liked it, all of it.
I visually it was a great episode. Like and again
I did like the interactions between Darryll and Carrol, liked
the interactions with the new guy, Julian actually liked the
new character. I was disappointed they had to kill him
off so quickly, but you know, I get it.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
It wasn't bad. It was not a bad first episode.
Was it the most exciting thing I ever watched? No?
But is it ever any well? And I think this
was this was their setup episode. This was introducing us
to a softer side of Carol, maybe a little more
open to two discussion, Darryl. You know, even the the

(40:28):
you know, giving giving Carol some actual vulnerability, you know,
where she is, she's not you know, her able to
be up to her normal self, even if she wanted
to be, you know, And and they gave us some
really nice time between the two of them that didn't

(40:48):
feel strained, right, And I agree, you know, kind of
them because the whole time that they were in France,
while they were together, even though they were together, there
was just so much going on, and there was so
much stress, and there was so much you know, it
was just bam and bam and bam. And even when

(41:11):
things kind of slowed down and they were going through
the tunnel and everything, I mean, there was just really
no time for them, the two of them to talk
or take a breath. So, you know, their their walk
across the countryside and and and everything was just really
kind of you know, in the time on the boat
and even in the apartment was just really kind of nice.

(41:31):
It kind of gave them some time to reconnect, yeah, which.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
They need, they needed bet you know, she did come
all that way to find him, yeah, you know, which
that was like really nice. When she thought they were
going to die, She's like, hey, I'm glad I found you.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
He's like, shut up, don't say it. Don't say we're
going to make it through. We've gotten this far. Yeah,
don't chinx it. Yeah exactly. But she's like, well, I
found you. So that was nice. I really they are.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I think I like them the best. You know, they're
the best friends team up. I think in this world
they really play well off of each other.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
These two actors. They really do well together. Yeah, I
mean they really do. I mean they're like brother and sister.
You know, they really do love each other. You can
see that they truly care for each other. Not romantically,
let's be really clear on this. Not romantically. We're not
one of those guys. But no, I mean they have

(42:39):
this really deep, abiding friendship and and it's really I
enjoy watching the two of them together. They compliment each other, well,
they do, and it's and there's not like you know,
a lot of times in a power dynamic, like with
with two people, there's always someone that's really comp then they'll

(43:00):
have someone that just bubbles along. And that's not what
these two are. I mean, they are both very competent
people there. You know, they can survive on their own,
they have survived on their own. But and they choose
to be with each other, and they are they you know,
they have this really close relationship. But I really like

(43:21):
that they're I think part of the I think the
reason I liked this episode was it was reinforcing that
closeness between the.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Two of them, because we're about to like not really
have much of that after this. I think it's going
to be the focus is going to change, right.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
But this is the lull before the storm, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
M hm, Well, I'm curious to see what happens next.
You know, if Carol gets her regular vision back. Yeah,
if Daryl can find her, which we know he will
because of the previews.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
But you know, they tried.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
To make us feel like, oh no, you can't find her,
but we all are like, it's fine, you'll find her
next episode.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I'm curious to see how it goes. And of course
seems like the people speak English just fine.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, that's kind of a nice change.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, I don't know how much Spanish will be hearing.
Maybe some, maybe a good amount, but not as much French.
I'm guessing. Mmm, I don't know. So if you had
to rate this episode, I'm curious, where would you put it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'd give it a solid eight.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Okay, I'm right next to you. I'd give it like
a seven. It's it's good, you know, not bad, but
not one of the best of the of the series.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
But you know, it's fine. Yeah, no, I mean it's
we've had to really lower our expectations over the years,
m h. But even even so, I mean, I really
did like this episode. I thought it was it was
nice to see Carol and Darryl together. It's nice to
just their comfortable friendship and you know, everything else. And

(45:04):
like I said, I am sure, I am positive that
can of hot dogs is going to be an ongoing gag.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Oh, I'm sure, assuming they can find the silly hot
dogs did they have them with them when they left
the boat?

Speaker 2 (45:17):
They had they did? Okay, I couldn't remember.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, so they took everything but left those uh hot
dogs I.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Think I think actually Darryl had them in his backpack.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Okay, so they were with them over where they were yeah,
kind of on the beach or whatever.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Uh huh mmmm Okay that makes sense because you know
those those hot dogs are important now mm.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Hmm apparently apparently very interesting. Okay, well, I can't think
of anything else. Do you have any other No, I
think we're pretty good here.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
This was a really strong start. It was a good conversation.
I think it's a great place to end it. Alisa,
this was fun as always. As always, Yes, and a
huge thank you to everyone in the live tonight. We
appreciate you for doing that and sticking with us through
the whole episode. If you want to be a part
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(46:17):
subscribe button and remember the links to find us are
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Speaker 2 (46:22):
We'll catch you in the next one. Take care of yourselves.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Bye, everyone, do

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