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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:24):
I am your host, Tamara, and I love a good
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome, Lisa, Hey, Tamra, Hey everyone.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
My name is Lisa Orban.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I am an author.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I am also the founder of Indies You United publishing house,
and I love all things pop culture.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
So if you would like to connect.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
With me online, you can find me pretty much everywhere
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Speaker 1 (00:58):
Before we dive in quick things, first, we want to
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(01:19):
You can find us on our socials and finally, but
most importantly, you are laid back in our view style, right, Lisa.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh, absolutely, Tambra.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
This is a conversation, not a dissertation.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Exactly, no scene by scene breakdowns here. We jump around
and of course huge spoiler alert for everything in the
world through yesterday's episode. If you're cool with that, this
is the place for you, and we should just jump
right on in. Darryl Dixon Season three, episode two, What
did you think, Lisa?

Speaker 3 (01:50):
You know, I kind of liked it? Yeah, I did.
Then I this is not where I thought the episode
so it would go, and uh, but I liked it.
I thought it was pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah. Same. I didn't really have any I guess, expectations
for this show anymore. I kind of just try not
to because I feel like every time I do, I'm
like super disappointed. Anyway, So I try to just like
rill it in and just kind of go with the flow,
and I think I enjoy it. A lot more.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, I will say, I'm I've noticed in this so
Carol is becoming almost more childlike mmm mm hmmm. And
Darryl is becoming more aggressive he is right now, yeah,
for sure. And I know part of that is is
because if she's becoming less her you know, and more

(02:51):
you know, just she's just kind of wandering around. She
just can't she can't quite get that focus right now,
which is is not uncommon with the head injury. He's
becoming more and more protective.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Let me jump in because I feel like that first
scene where Carol is watching the couple, why does this
feel so weird and inappropriate to me? Like, I know
she was kind of doing it out of this whole
you know, Oh how sweet, look at them so nice,
But I'm like, why are you just standing there like

(03:24):
a creeper? I don't know, it just seemed a little weird.
I didn't know what to make of it at first.
I'm like, what is she doing?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I honestly, I just I assumed that it was just
part of the concussion. Yeah, she's not really Carol's not
really processing things very well right now. M And she's
not She's not her normal cautious self. And this isn't

(03:53):
that hopefulness that we saw in like the first episode.
This is this is her just really being out there.
You know, her brain got a little scrambled and she's
just not her right now. And the more and the
more protective Daryl has to be, the more extreme he's

(04:14):
willing to go to protect her.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, well, I hope that's all it is, but I'm
not so sure. I just she is definitely you know
how Kara goes up and down. You know, either she's
on ten or she's on like zero, and she's kind
of like sitting at a two or three right now.
You know, she's really in the zone. But you know,

(04:37):
she has enough there to speak her mind when it
comes to how people are doing things if she doesn't
like it or it doesn't make sense to her. She's
got that. But she's softer right now.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Right But then again, I mean, if you think back
to how Tamar has been in the past, she would
have been a lot more circumspect in her answer. I
don't think, you know, she answered it honestly, which is
not something Carol would normally do.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
I mean, it answered all the questions that way, though.
Think about it when they said, how did you guys
get here? Like a boat and a plane and a boat?
They just told their business. It was like, oh, next,
we're going to take a blimp. Yeah, And I'm not
gonna lie it.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Actually it crossed my mind. I'm like, what are they
gonna get on a hot air balloon? You know?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Soon? Apparently?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Apparently? I mean, I'm I don't know. I guess I'm
here for you know, they went around the world in
eighty days in a hot air balloon. Why not, right?
But yeah, I did, just like I said, Carol's I
don't think because again in that in the first episode,
we got this really nice picture of Carol being a

(05:54):
little more relaxed, a little more open, but I mean
she still had caution even when dealing with uh was Nigel?
Was that his name for the first episode anyway? I
don't know anyway, but you know, so it's you know,
he breathes this really great you know, liquor, and they're

(06:16):
throwing it over your shoulder, you know, so they can
stay sober while they talk to him, and and Carol
didn't even then come right out and say, hey, uh
you know so yeah, I think you know, since her
head injury. She's just kind of just kind of wandering
around without her normal that normal shield that you know,

(06:38):
she keeps up and and and I think it's kind
of putting Darryl on edge because he doesn't know quite
what to do because this it's almost like he's she's
like a five year old in an adult body right now.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh. I don't know if I go that far, but
it does seem very odd, you know, what she's doing
right now? Yeah, And Darryl is definitely like during this conversation,
you know, at the dinner where Carol starts to insert
her opinions on things and you know, say, oh, this
is weird and all this other stuff, you know, Daryl's like, oh,
hand me that pork. It's like, you know, interrupting her

(07:15):
kind of. And if it wasn't for him spotting those men,
he would have stayed there and continue to run interference
because it's just yah.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
And under normal circumstances one, under normal circumstances, she would
not have but him doing that would have made her go, oh, well,
maybe I should be a little more cautious, or maybe
he knows something I don't know, or there would have
been you know, a little more reflection on why he
was doing that. Yeah, and it said she was just like, oh, sure,

(07:45):
here's more pork. And by the way, this is my opinion. Yeah,
so this is very I don't think we've ever seen
Carol like this, not ever.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Yeah, she's really in this zone right now. And I
don't I hope it is like you say, and it's
the head injury, because I don't know if I can
take her acting like this for I don't know what,
five more episodes.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, and I don't think we will because she's I mean,
she was still there in this episode, but she's not
as bad as she was because right after they came
to Short and everything, she was talking very you know,
childlike yea, she had there was this soft, you know,

(08:31):
hesitation to everything she was saying. And like when the
when he was trying to cover her up to keep
them protected from the people that came out of the beach,
she's like throwing off the blanket got hot, and you know,
those are very out of character. All those things were
very out of character for her. Even just sitting there,

(08:53):
you know, she heard the voice or she followed the voices,
and she just kind of sat and stared at him
because I don't think she's processing things quite right at
this point.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
No, She's like they're so perfect. I'm like, what are
you talking about?

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Like, Okay, I guess. But you know, once she got
to the town and saw what was going on, she
pretty much tells Daryl we have to help them, and
he's like, I just want to get home. We need
to get the heck out of here.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah. Yeah, he's all about, do you have any tools?
Can I fix my boat? Can I?

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
And so there's also not just a taking care of
but I mean, he got drug into this entire war,
you know, when he was in France and you know
the whole thing, I mean, and basically gained a son
and a girlfriend and lost them both. And he's done.

(09:48):
He wants no more entanglements and he wantn't just to
be him and Carol and he wants out of there.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, they just want well, you know, they wanted to
get back and now she's all side tracked with this
love story that's like going on there. They I noticed
this episode they introduced the characters pretty quickly. You know,
we know all the main players, and they actually have
like two little romances going on, which is kind of

(10:17):
unusual for this show. It's kind of taking a deviation
from the norm a little bit, I think focusing on that,
but I don't necessarily dislike it. I'm kind of curious
to see where it's going to go, and you know
how Carol is going to be able to help them?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, now I do have I mean, I guess my
one big question is is these girls that are being
taken and they don't know where they're going? I mean,
are they.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
What?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Why? I mean, is it because genetically I kind of
understand why you would want to do that, m hm,
because they all do live and fairly small communities, So
having people marry and be outside of their own communities
is a good thing. But it you know, are they

(11:10):
being auctioned off? You know? Is this a lottery? Is
there a what is this purpose?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
You know? It's hard to tell, to be honest. So
I feel like they're supposed to marry these women off
to someone somewhere we don't know. That's like the big
I guess missing gap here. Hopefully we'll have that sorted
out next episode. But they definitely are saying they're better

(11:40):
off where they are, right and instead of just taking
the women there trading them for food, weapons, whatever, which
is kind of strange.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
But I guess, I guess the bigger thing is is
I think the girls would be less reluctant to go
if they because it's very secretive. I mean, obviously there
they have a woman there that was taken as a
young girl through one of these lotteries. She's obviously not
in a bad way. She married, you know, married, and

(12:15):
she's not and while it may not be a relationship
she wanted, it's she's not, as far as we can tell,
being mutilated or whatever. But why aren't they telling these
girls or that these communities where these girls are going, right,
and why.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Are they cut off from their past?

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Right? Why the secrecy? I guess that's my question. Why
the secrecy?

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, honestly, to me, the whole I guess, you know,
pig run to see who was gonna go? That was
feeling that whole thing, that whole setup was feeling very
hunger games. Yeah, it's like, okay, you know at the
beginning where you pick who's going to go to the

(13:02):
district the capitol, this is how we do it, except
where they have the pigs racing, right, I don't know
I felt instantly like this is very reaping, Like yeah, well, and.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
And again, I mean if if the communities, if they said, hey,
they're going to be going into and being married to,
you know, someone in the royal court and they're going
to have a court life and all their wants and
needs are always going to be met, and the girls
come back on occasion and say hi mom, Hi dad
or whatever, just to reassure those communities, I don't think

(13:36):
there would be quite the reluctance. But is except for
this one girl woman that you know, somehow managed to
convince her husband to let her go. Nobody knows where
these girls go or who they're married to. They'll they'll
you know, they're or anything. You know, if there's children
or grandchildren, you know, the parents and the families will

(13:59):
never know. And why, I guess that's my big thing
is why why the secrecy?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
You know? I feel like they're going to have to
tell us the why eventually, there's no way around it.
They're going to have to reveal it, hopefully sooner than later,
because the why might be the motivator that gets Daryl
on board to help them.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Mhm.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm thinking that's going to come out soon, because we
can't just keep going on and not knowing why we're
going to help them for what reason, especially when you know,
Carol's kind of been put in her place by an
elder like, hey, lady, you just got here. Quit trying
to tell us, right, And she.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Walked it back, she said, you're right, I don't I
don't know, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
So there's got to be a really, really good reason
that they're going to see or hear or experience that's
going to make them want to dive in and help them,
because right now she needs to back off, and I
think she kind of reads that, you know, yep.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm kind of wondering what's going to happen with because
Daryl killed those three guys and I don't know, you know,
they you know, they initially thought they were bandoliers. Guess not.
I guess they belonged to the royal you know, contingent there.

(15:20):
What if anything's gonna come of that?

Speaker 1 (15:24):
So the bandoliers are those the people? Okay? So I'm
trying to think if that is the same group or
a different group, because it's not clear, you know, the
group that we're wearing the mask that took all the
stuff from their boat at the water. Yeah, I'm kind
of wondering, are you sure they're the bandoliers?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
No, no, no, because now I'm talking about the ones
that went after the two kids.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, I'm wondering if that's from the same grouping or not.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't know. But she referred to them. The girl
referred to them as bandoliers vandeliers came after us. So
that's why I use that term, because that's what she
said about them. They were bandoliers. But then they show up,
you know, and there for the feast.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, so that means that they're with whatever is left
of whatever royalty they think they have going on there.
But that's still Yeah, I guess that's an outstanding question.
We're gonna have to wait and see if the bandoliers
are indeed the same people that we saw in the
first episode or not, or if those people are tied

(16:31):
to this other place we have not seen or not,
or if that's like a third group of people that
we have to contend with.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, I guess we're just gonna.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Have to wait.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
We're gonna have to wait and see because there's no
answers here. You know in this episode, but I am
very curious.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, I very much. This episode, I mean the introduced
us to all these new characters. It kind of gave
us a general overview of what's going on. And and really,
I mean their town. We have seen way worse communities.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
They seem to have a decent amount of a population.
I don't now personally, I don't know how much the
because the supplies that they gave them, I mean it
was it was one chest and while there was you know,
some weaponry and it's some medicine. I mean, there really
wasn't a whole lot in there, not really, right. So

(17:31):
my question is is is what's in that box worth
the loss of the life of a lifetime worth of
effort from the person they're taking.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Well, that's what Carol's asking, like, what is worth this?
Why would you let your daughters go?

Speaker 3 (17:47):
And they did so, I mean, and he did say
that before they started doing this. You know, they were
in a worse position. But it also doesn't seem like
the other groups will come to their aid. I mean,
they're on their own. That's why they're these supplies are
passed out so they can take care of themselves. It
doesn't seem like this is like a a pact among

(18:08):
the communities that they'll take care of each other.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
So you know, yeah, I don't know. I think right
now they did throw a lot at us in this
second episode, and there's so much more to learn, like
how many more communities are involved with this giving up
of their daughters? You know, it's got to be more
than just these two. Yeah, yeah, I'm curious to see

(18:38):
how that goes. But it's the fourth season being filmed
in the same location. Do you know that? Have you heard? No? Okay,
because I heard that they are filming right now, but
because I didn't want to like be technically spoiled, I
kind of just shied away and did not read anything. Yeah,
so I saw like a headline, I'm like, oh, I'm
not gonna invest the gate further. But if you knew

(19:01):
I was.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Gonna, no, I haven't. I have not actively looked mm
hmm okay, So and I wasn't. I might later on
after the season is over, but then again, by the
end of the season, we might kind of have a
good idea where they're going.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
To be anyway, Yeah, because that's what I was wondering
because I'm like, well, if the next season is in
the same location, then this world here in Spain can
get bigger and we can deal with more than just
these two communities because they'll have more time to tie
up the storylines. Right. But if they've moved on and

(19:40):
they're not in Spain anymore, then we know that the
the scope of the story here will be small. Like
I said, I'm so, I don't know, we'll have to
see yeah, I mean, I haven't, I haven't heard. I mean, honestly,
I wouldn't mind if they got their boat fixed and
ended up so where and like I don't know, New

(20:01):
Zealand er, you know, somewhere in Upper Canada mm hmmm,
and had to make their way down, you know, across
the frozen tunder or something.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I don't know. I would I mean, I it would
not bother me to see them, you know, or or
make it across and end up in like Brazil. I'd
have to go up, you know. That wouldn't That wouldn't
upset me a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, I don't know, I mean, because season four is
the end, so whatever they're doing, they've got to make
it back by the seventh seventh I don't know if
they're having seven or eight episodes next season, but they
don't have a lot of time to play around, so
and I kind of like that, honestly. I like that
we know when the end is because I feel like

(20:49):
that's gonna make the story tighter and no episodes wasted
at least I'm hoping that's what that means. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, I mean so far. I mean, I don't know
what these We had a kind of a self encapsulating
episode with England mm hm, you know, then we're out
on the boat and everything, and then we're stranded and
then we're in Spain.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I don't but I think that I do think that
there's a nice pacing to the episodes. I'm not really
seeing a lot of dragging through them.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well, I don't know about that. See look, okay, let
me tell you. I fell asleep twice trying to watch
this episode. And it was in the middle of the day.
There's no reason for me to be sleepy. I was
not sleepy. I don't know what was going on, but
I just could not. I'm telling you, I just was
like sleep Oh no, I have to rewind it. That

(21:53):
happened more times than you know, two times, it's too
many when I have to rewind. I don't know, ten
minutes because I like so, I don't know. Is it
the pacing, is it the the Yeah, that's what I
don't know. That is something.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I will say this the Spanish language, it's very musical,
and it's also there. It's it's it's lyrical and there's
a there's a lot of it. So I don't know,
I mean, and the music isn't you know, it's not
They're using some really nice calming music. I don't know,
I could see, I could see where that could put. Oh,

(22:36):
this is really nice. Yeah, just keep talking.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah. Yeah, So I don't think it's boring by any means.
And I think this also is kind of a nod
back to kind of the original Walking Dead type of
thing where we're trying to learn all these people, we're
meeting communities, and there's not a lot of scene right

(23:00):
now where they're fighting off walkers, right, so the action
is not so action y in that way. It's like
a different way, working more about learning these characters and
driving the plot through character development versus just like action.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, and the director did say that they drew a
lot of inspiration from the old spaghetti westerns for this
particular episode where the stranger comes in, goes to the
to the town that may or may not be in trouble,
and you know that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, I heard that, and I said, what the heck
is the spaghetti Western?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
So, oh see, I can tell you all about spaghetti Westerns.
My dad loved them. They were they were Western movies
that were financed by Spanish millionaires too. So a lot

(24:02):
of the a lot of the Clint Eastwood, well, the
old Clinton Eastwid movies are considered spaghetti westerns.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
H so interesting. Yeah, and my cup of tea. So
when he said that, I was like, oh, okay, cool, next, Yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Was you know what you think about you because I
got that feel they had that same kind of pacing
and and the the the the filming and stuff had
that same nod back to the old spaghetti Westerns. I
have seen a lot of them, Okay, not voluntarily. H yeah,

(24:43):
I am familiar. So as soon as he as soon
as he said that, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, I
get it now.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
So it's the color grading that we're seeing in all
the daytime scenes. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
That's all reminiscent of that those kind of movies. The
only thing that every ahead, I was gonna say, the
like that would have made it, would have made it
more perfect is if Darryl still had his serape right,
because Clint each wood Ward one and a couple of
times in these.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay, I see, but I noticed like that color grading
exists even in the nighttime scenes, like everything has this
amber like you over it. Yes, and yeah, that's why.
But again it's like it's very visually appealing. It looks great,

(25:34):
Like it's great like for the scenes where they're doing
the celebrations and you know, it looks really nice. But
again that lends itself to that, like you said that
soothing cozy.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I'm gonna tell you call my point of view. Okay,
my point of view that's the blind woman here. I
am enjoying the fact that I can see the screen.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Even in the night scenes.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Uh, they're they're not as dark this season. Okay, I
mean they're still dark, but they're they're not the black
on black quite so much. They have a little more
a little more depth to them. So I am appreciating that.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, the scenes where Daryl was chasing those guys. Actually
I love that scene. That was pretty clever of him
how he got the jump on them. But those were
pretty dark, to be honest. They were dark, but you
could see them. And side note, when that guy was
hanging off the side, I said, oh my god, he's

(26:34):
gonna like hit him in the face or something. I
did not expect him to like slice his hands.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, he cut his fingers off man.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, like gruesome.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Yeah, and I have I mean, Darryl is not as
is not as forgiving in this season he has been.
I mean from the beginning, he's been a little more
has more of an edge to him.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
And I don't hate it, but it is. Darrel's always
been kind of one with with Between him and Carol,
he's always been the one with more of the soft
touch than her ultimately, and and now their roles have
been reversed.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh absolutely absolutely, because I'm like, dang, you could have just,
I don't know, hit him in the face. That would
have been less gruesome than you know, doing what he did.
But what can you do, I don't know. I guess
that's what he was feeling in the moment. So go forward, Darryl.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, you know. I mean, Daryl's doing Darryl right now,
and we're just gonna let him go do Darryl's stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, exactly. Okay, So what did you think about some
of these new characters that we met?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, okay, so I did get kind of a giggle
out of the boy, the the young man who's in
you know, he's in love whytos. Yeah, just doesn't understand
I love her. And Darrel's like, yeah, and maybe he understands.

(28:17):
There's more important things and just raw.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Look, no lies detected, dude, Like you're in an apocalypse
right now? What is going on? People are being kidnapped
from your town. And at that point he didn't even
know what was going on, basically, Well, and it's what
they were worried.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Worried about was her name getting drawn and you know,
and now she's not gonna be drawn in and I
guess her this is her last year, so which is good.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
And that's another thing. Is it her last year because
she aged out of it? That's so gross. Why did
they have to be so young? And I was wondering
about the girl Happy or whatever her name was, whatever
her name was, the girl that got picked. Yeah, I'm
like why how old is she? I was trying to
figure out how old she was. I'm like, is she

(29:07):
at least thirteen years old?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Fifteen, I'll be Yeah. I couldn't figure out how old
she was, which was also high level of cringe. If
you're marrying these women off, you can't take a thirteen
year old.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
And it does seem from so we were. When the
one woman was talking, one of the things she the
implication was is they're not immediately married off. They're brought
in and groomed and groomed, so they're there for several
years before they are married.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So, oh, that's so much better.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, I'm not saying it's great, Okay, Yeah, but again,
this entire system is just weird and it is well,
you know, we're told not to question it because it's
working for them. They weren't a bad spot before. Now
they're not. They're they're doing really well. But again, my

(30:07):
question is, if they're taking these girls to marry them
to people, why the secrecy. What's so secret about this?
Why is it so important to keep them cut off
from their families and and and stuff? What what is
the point of that? Why? Mm hm, Because honestly, if

(30:30):
if if this was like a cultural exchange, where if
the women were brought to like a different settlement and
they got to pick who they wanted to marry, someone
outside of their family group, I could I could see
that where there's this you know, the women are being moved,
you know, move from village to village, they lead their

(30:52):
village and they go, or the young men lead their
village and go somewhere else, so that you know, you're
not marrying your your cousin or your hap. You know,
these are important things and a small population. But what
they're doing doesn't. But the secrecy doesn't make any sense

(31:13):
to me.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Mm hmm, yeah, I agree. The secrecy is going to
be that's the lynchman. I think when they find out
what it is, you know, Daryl's gonna be like, okay,
we got to help them, Okay, fine, whatever that is.
I think that's gonna be the thing that changes his tune.

(31:35):
He has a limit, you know, So I don't know,
it'd be curious to see. Let's see who else. So
we met Roberto and Justina. We met the leader of
so Les del Mar who was Justine's Justina's uncle. That
was interesting, you know what somebody, somebody said, what if

(31:59):
because he was the one that picked up the pig
and looked at the name on it, what if he
picked up the other girls on purpose? Like maybe he
could see the names because that's his niece.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
M I was kind of wonder because I did the
from the previous for next week. It doesn't say anything,
but I was when he looked at the at the
collar and everything else. I'm kind of wondering if maybe
he didn't just randomly pick a different name yeah, or
palmed it. Yeah, So who's gonna question him because he's

(32:35):
the only one that really saw the name?

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, I mean, technically he could have picked Justina's name
and just said the other name that he knew was
in there.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah. Mmm.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I don't know. Interesting, but that wouldn't be surprising to
me at all. Of course, you don't want your needs
to be taken, so anybody but hers.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
And it could have been. I mean, he could have
done this several times. We don't know, because she's never
okay mm hmm, So yeah, I don't know it. It's
a yeah, I just don't know what's going on with
that whole thing's set off. It's just weird. It is weird.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
And then we met Roberto's father, who actually is the
one that took in Carol and Darryl. Yep, he's interesting.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I love, well, who's going to have space? And they
go into this really nice little homestead. I'm like, that's
kind of a big ass house. I mean they could
have just seems like there's plenty of room, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, it was pretty big with his cat and everything.
I'm curious to see what his role is going to
be because I don't think he likes what's going on either. Yeah,
he seems like he wants to be a good parent.
You know. He had that conversation with Darryl like, oh am,
I'm messing him up. Basically He's like, well, you're asking
the right questions, so I'm sure you're good. Yeah. So

(34:04):
he seems like a good person. I wonder if there's
gonna be Carol kind of looking at him a little
interesting because you know, he's a man that's not Darryl. Yeah,
and there's no wife around, so maybe maybe I wouldn't
hate it, you know, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, but I don't know. I mean, Darrel got his
romance last last season. Yeah, I guess maybe it's Carol's turn.
I don't know, but I would honestly prefer no, just
because I want to see them go back to the

(34:45):
to the United States, and her being in a relationship
would just complicate things.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
It would unless his son dies, then he has no
reason to stick around.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
They can leave together. I mean, I guess he could
go back with them. But yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I don't know. Then we met. I think the character's
name was passed. Correct me if I'm wrong, I know
someone will. So she's the one who had a previous
like I don't wont know if i'd say relationship, but
she knew of the woman that came the bride, the
wife that came back. She knew her. And the lady

(35:27):
said something like, oh, I thought you would come for
me or something. I thought that was pretty interesting. I'm like,
where is she supposed to go? Do they know where
to go? Maybe they do.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I mean, I don't I think it sounded more like
an assumption that you would. You know, I'm surprised you
didn't follow me in the night or whatever and just
keep track of me see where I went.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah, maybe I don't know, because it seems like she
didn't even know exactly where she was until she talked
to someone who's from the same town. So maybe they
knew each other at one place, and now you're she's
somewhere different, which is interesting. I guess I'm curious to
see what happens with that. I don't remember a scene

(36:19):
where it was explicit indicating that she was the one
that helped Justina and Roberto, but I think she did.
I think it's kind of implied.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
No, she did. She said something. She was up on
the wall. She was the reason that they got away.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Okay, although they went out there acting like they've never
been out in the world before. It was very weird.
They shouldn't have been out there.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, I mean, I am. I don't want to agree
with Daryl, but I have to agree with dyl because
you know, she's like because I mean, he held them
at gunpoint and said, you're gonna take us back. We
don't care, you know, I don't whatever. You don't understand,
we're gonna be separated. They're gonna kill me. I don't care.
Let's go, which again is very undear alike. But I

(37:08):
don't know. I just lost by train of thought. That
Alzheimer's is just getting me. Man, girl, don't play you
not all. It's Monday tired. Yeah yeah, but uh oh
keep talking. It'll come back to you here in a second.
I just yeah, I had those thoughts and they're just

(37:28):
it's right there.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, it happened sometimes, and it.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Had a salient reason for p he said, I had,
I had something good. It was that good, and my.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Brain just went, no, it'll come back later. So we
also met Gullermo Torres. He's the leader of the Royals
or whatever, the Royal lineage grouping, and he's in charge
of that offering ceremony. So I remember, oh go ahead, girl,

(38:02):
go back.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
No, it was you know, because Carol was like, you know,
I feel really bad because we drug them back here
and they did you know, well, you know what would
have you know, just think of where they would have
been if if if we hadn't come come along, And
he's like, they would have been dead. And they would
have because if he had not interfered while they were
on the rocks, those other guys would have either taken
them or killed them or both. H And even if

(38:26):
they had gotten past that, they really didn't have a
whole lot of skills. I think these are inside people,
not outside people.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, so how are you gonna run away? So again,
why are you even You had no training, you don't
have no nothing, just out there swimming in a creek
like it's a.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Vacation, right, and not even that far from from where
they ran away from.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
He said, we can get further away before you got
before you got so relaxed, just like you're begging to
be caught.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
You know, they're like, what do they say, like two
hours away or an hour aways? It wasn't that far no,
So yeah, I mean, if they were really that desperate
to get away, they really should have been further away
or I or even if they stopped to sleep, they
shouldn't have been playing in the in the pond and
kissy kissy and everything else. They should have gotten up

(39:21):
and kept going if they were really that afraid, you
know what.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
I mean, they're like the kids that run away from
home and get to the end of the street and
they're like, fuck it, I'll go back. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Yeah, I don't think that. I mean, And I'm gonna
have to agree with you know they you know, you know,
they're kept saying, well, you're the reason we're back here,
and we wouldn't have been here if it wasn't for you.
But I'm gonna have to agree with Darryl. If it
wasn't for them, I don't think they would have survived
much longer. I mean, if it hadn't have been the Bandoliers,
it probably would have been you know, the Walkers. I don't.

(39:56):
Neither one of them seemed very well outside capable.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
No, they don't seem prepared for anything. They're very like
we've talked about with other groups that have that are
inside kids. You know, they're very soft. You know, they
don't have any experience, and it shows like that poor kid,
he tried to defend her and he just gets knocked back,
and I'm like, you're useless? What good are you?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
You know? I mean, and you could I mean they
didn't have Yeah, they weren't. They didn't pick a very
good spot. They could have definitely they could have found
someplace that was more secluded. They left their bag out
visible because the only reason those guys stopped, I think
is because they saw their stuff. Yes, you know, so

(40:50):
yeah they I mean it's not like they were the secretive.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
No, not even a little bit not at so they're stupid.
I'm sure they're going to try to run away again.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
No, I don't think they will, because the whole reason
for them wanting to run away was because they were
afraid that she was going to get taken in this lottery. Yeah,
and now that she's not going to be taken in
the lottery.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Oh, they'll just hang around. I guess maybe they'll be
a part of the resistance. Yeah. Okay, So back to
the bad guy. This guy Gilermo. He is what's her faces?
That girl's husband, right, the young girl. I don't know.

(41:34):
He seems bad.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
So part of my question was how many wives does
he have?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Ooh, I didn't even think about that at all. I
just thought one wife. But no, it sounds like he
could have many wives.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yes, again the secrecy and everything else. How many wives
does he have?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Oh my gosh, that's awful. I come up with good questions,
don't I tra Look I'm telling you, but you know
it's valid. It's a valid question, very valid. I don't know.
I guess we're gonna find out.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Because I could be part of the secret. You know,
they're they're they're all sister wives over there. Yeah, they're
running harems.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Oh my gosh, that's horrible.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
That'd be fruitful and multiply. He didn't mean you had
to do it all by yourself.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Also, it's not some Handmaid's Tail ship, but just in Spain,
that would be awful.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
I you know, honestly, I think I don't think it's
quite Handmaid's Tale level because the the one, you know,
the one wife. I think she would have told her
friend mm hmm, and it would not have been quite
So it's okay.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
See, I just thought that was a show. I didn't
really believe her when she was sitting at the table
like it. So, you know, I just thought it was
a She just put it on for you know, that's
her job. You're gonna come here with me, fine, then
you're gonna speak up and make it fine for us
to you know. I I don't know. It seems like,

(43:19):
oh there's something going on.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
It's not on the up and up. Fully, Yeah, I
don't believe it.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I mean, I don't think they're like sacrificing them to
the walkers or dragons or whatever. I don't think they
have dragons either. I'm just saying yeah, yeah, you know,
I mean, now they it is possible that some of
these girls are also being traded to communities further out
for supplies. Maybe, I just I don't know. I mean,

(43:52):
there's something going on and it's just weird.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
So is the girl that we saw here, so she
liked the queen because she's involved with Guillermo, who is
like claims royal lineage. Is she the quote unquote queen
of that group? Technically would be yes, mm, well we

(44:16):
know how they treat Spanish queens, don't we not? Well, yeah,
I just got finished watching the first season of The
Spanish Queen. I'm like, dang played her wrong. You know,
they play her to the left. But they do that
to all queens back then, you know, so why not

(44:38):
repeat history? You know, yeah, do something shady. There's something
going on. It's not just as simple as them just
being taken and finding a found family and all this stuff.
That's not what it is it's going to be.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
If everything was on the up and up, I mean,
once they were traded per se, you know, the family
should still go and see them. There could be correspondence,
there would be some knowledge of how they're they're well
being m You know, even if they were being brought

(45:13):
to like, you know, the post apocalyptic equivalent of you know,
finishing school for ladies, they'd still have that, you know,
some kind of connection with their previous life. But the
fact that they don't and and nobody knows what happens
to them, and their family doesn't know what happens to
them is kind of shady.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, definitely, it's absolutely shady, no question, very weird. But yeah,
I guess we're just gonna have to find out. I'm
not Honestly, even though we got to see a lot
of new characters and kind of get a grasp of
what's going on in this town, there wasn't that much
going on in this episode. It feels like it's very

(46:00):
has been. It's a small capsule of information, you know
what I'm saying, Like we're in one place, we're seeing
the same characters over and over. We didn't even get
full answers on everything. Obviously there's a lot to learn still,
But yeah, I don't know. It's fine.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
I think next I think next episode is going to
be a lot more action orientated. I think this was
the setup for next week.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, I hope.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
So what is that when the reveal happens on what
happens to these girls or something?

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Right, I don't know, We'll have to see. I'm trying
that to again, like I'm having a hard time trying
to guess what I think could happened, because I just
think I'm wrong every time. I don't know what the
writers are ever thinking on this show.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
I don't know. There could be a dartboard and you know,
some sticky notes. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, honestly, that would not surprise me at all if
that's how they chose to write this series, is with
plot devices on a wall and they throw darts at it.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Yet three darks and you have to you know, so
you know Handlestick and the ten with mister Green and uh,
that's how we're playing this.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Word have mercy. Oh my gosh. So let's do a
rating again. We did one last week. If you had
to rate this episode one out of ten, where would
you put it? Probably about a seven, okay, is not
what you had last week?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Or he had eight last week or eight last week?

Speaker 1 (47:28):
So you liked this one a little bit less?

Speaker 3 (47:31):
A little bit less, I mean, I didn't hate it
by any means, but again, like you said, there are
a lot more answer questions and we got answers for
and I mean it wasn't technically slow because there's always
something going on, but it was. It was a lot
more than the setup for next week.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, definitely, let's see. So for me, let me think though,
if I actually I did like last week's a little
bit better, So this would be a six because at
least last week I didn't fall asleep. So there's that now.
I'll never stop mentioning that because I I am not
one that like normally falls asleep when I'm watching TV.

(48:15):
That is not normal for me.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
So are you sure because I've heard you say that
only on this stuff.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I don't know why the walking debt puts me to
sleep nowadays. I don't know what happened, Like, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Only the brain says it's time to relax and on
wine because you're watching carnage. It's time to sleep.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
It's time to sleep. Let me put some horrible on
the TV and go to sleep. Great.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
I don't know if you're maybe you're like one of
those women that goes to sleep to you know, the
murder mystery, Who've done it? Things?

Speaker 1 (48:45):
You know what. I have gone to sleep during a
true crime podcast before I have done it.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Okay. See, I'm just saying, say, I don't know something here.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
It's fun listening and it's just soothing. I don't know
why it puts me this slate, but yeah, I don't know.
But then I also listen when I'm walking or driving,
so I'm not sleeping. Then I don't know. I can't
explain it.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Anyway, AnyWho, anything else? You got anything else for this episode?

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Oh no, I think I think we pretty much covered
everything that happened. Like it said, I mean, there was
a lot wasn't a lot going on, but there was
a lot of setup taking place, so yeah, introductions and
kind of dynamics between people and you know.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
So yeah, yeah, this was a really good setup episode
for sure. And uh yeah, I'm looking forward to next week.
We'll be here, same time, same place. You guys know
the drill and uh let's see, don't forget. Oh thanks
for everyone who's listening live. I didn't see any comments today,
but that's okay. We'll get back into the swing of things.

(49:49):
All good. Thanks for dropping in. If you're listening on
the replay, we appreciate you for being here as well,
and we'll catch you guys in the next one. Take
care of yourself. Bye guys, Bye bye.
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