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October 22, 2025 • 52 mins
In this conversation, Tamara and Lisa reflect on the season finale of Daryl Dixon, discussing their thoughts on character developments, plot holes, and thematic elements. They express disappointment in the lack of clarity and resolution, particularly regarding the motivations behind certain actions and the overall storytelling. The duo also contemplates the future of the characters and the series as a whole, weighing their expectations against the reality of the show's trajectory. They conclude with a rating of the episode and a discussion on the potential for the final season.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Recap of the Walking Dead universe. We
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(00:30):
I am your host, Tamara, and I love a good
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show co host Lisa. Welcome, Lisa, Hey, Tamra, Hey everyone.
My name is Lisa Orban. I am an author. I

(00:50):
am also the founder of Indies United publishing.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
House, and I love all things pop culture, So if
you would like to connect with me online, you can
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at indic United.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Pub So, before we dive in a few quick things, first,
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(01:24):
Lisa are in the show notes. You can find us
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laid back in our view style, right Lisa. Oh, absolutely, Tamra.
This is a conversation, not a dissertation, exactly, no scene
by scene breakdowns here. We jump around and of course
huge spoiler alert for everything in the world through yesterday's episode.

(01:46):
If you're cool with that, this is the place for you,
and we should just jump right on in. Okay, Lisa,
season finale, what'd you think?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
It was a good episode, but it didn't feel like
a season finale, do tell. I don't know, It's just
I just kept thinking, there's gotta be one more, right,
we miscalculated.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't know. Well, I hear what you're saying. I
definitely feel like it didn't have that traditional finale kind
of oomph behind it, because I guess all the stuff
they've been doing this season has kind of had a
little bit of action to it, so maybe this didn't

(02:33):
feel any different than the rest Maybe. I don't know.
I mean we had.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Action, you know, they had things happening, and you know,
they did actually kill the king, so and the king
you know, well the guests would be the prince and
the king, so they got.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
The whole royal court. So, but bully for them.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, I kind of like that aspect of it.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah. Well, let's see. So we got seventh episodes this
season versus the previous two seasons of six. So and
you still want it more? So should we have gotten eight? Maybe?
I don't know. I mean it's just.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I I at the end, at the very end of it,
I'm like, okay, that's all right, So we should have
one more episode, right, Yeah, yeah, we should.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
There should be one more. There was There's not there's
not one more. That that was. That was it. Yeah,
that was it. That was the cliffhanger done. Okay, Well
for me, I guess it was a good episode. Did
I think it was the best of the season. No,
But it was entertaining enough and they fit most of

(03:46):
the things we wanted in there. Yeah. I mean garyl did.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Get you know, get his man or woman, I guess.
And uh so there was some oh and we did
find out about the kid. I guess that's why she
didn't want to The one girl that had been with
the group didn't want to leave.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You know, she had a son.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
But so yeah, that would make sense. I was a
little confused though about the whole picking process.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Why did they take so many women?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
But you know, apparently they don't have that many slots.
I don't know, because then the ones that aren't picked
become slaves essentially.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I guess, yeah, So were there more than four? So
this photo I have, were four, but I couldn't remember
if there were five or four women on the stage originally, Well,
there's two.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
There were two left that they took off that were
gonna be were picked.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
So I think there were five on stage because I
feel like we saw three men pick m and she
got the last one, you know, I mean, our character
got the last one after she let down her hair
try to flirt a little bit. I guess, yeah. So yeah,
then if they don't so that is interesting. If they

(05:07):
only have three men available, why take more girls? Right?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I mean, I guess they don't want to say, oh,
you know, we don't need them now because the whole
thing is very much shrouded in secrecy.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
But it also.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Begs the question if they do this every year and
they're getting what five to seven girls, there can't be
that many eligible bachelors every year in the court, not
every year.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I don't know that setup was just it was I
was hoping for a little more clarity about it, I guess.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, yeah, but now we will never get it. It's
kind of murky, and it's going to stay that way. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, because if they were taking even just say five
girls every year for the last ten years, I mean
that's fifty girls.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah yeah, and we know there's always less men than women.
So one year maybe three, another year maybe two, one
year maybe one or nine. You know, I can't believe
they just have that many guys just around. And like
you said, we could tell that the one woman never
left the two b king because of the child, but

(06:34):
we never got any indication that there was more than
one wife or anything like that. So what is the
purpose of all these women?

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, and even at the camp, you know back when
from last episode that you know, the girls were you know,
the runaways, the ones that had escaped, not quite a
few of them. You know, the.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Implication was a lot of the girls in that cave
had escape from Barcelona, right, So.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Why do they need so many? I don't know, that's
a good question. I would like to know that because
this is basically human trafficking. So I don't know. I
don't see it any other way. So I just don't
understand if they were trying to be, you know, everything
they were doing, if they felt it was on the
up and up and the way to repopulate, or whatever

(07:29):
their excuse was, they did not need more women than
they actually had men to pick from, you know. So,
I mean it does seem that the girls that weren't
picked then became you know, I guess workers on at
the palace, Yes, who got like treated horribly. Yeah, like

(07:51):
what's up with that? Send them back home? And it's
not like the you know.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
In the picking ceremony is you're put up on that
you know, on that fountain and people have like three
minutes to pick.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
You know, you don't even know if you like this person, right,
no courting, no nothing, No let me ask you ten questions. Yeah,
they don't even know they're names. They're just you know,
they grab one of the flowers. I'll pick this one. Yeah,
So it was lackluster. I feel like it left some

(08:25):
plot holes. I think the payoff of this moment wasn't
the best, although I have to admit like some of
the things about this rescue were cool, like the walkers
that they used for the play. Yeah, that was one
I did.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
You know again, we're in the Court of Louis the
sixteenth that that was the Sun Court, I do believe,
and they very much brought back that hole let them
eat cake feeling, you know, they have you see, and honestly,

(09:05):
France isn't doesn't seem to be overall doing as bad.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
As some of the places that we have seen because
England is.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Decimated, you know, or I'm sorry Spain, but France, you know,
was war torn, and Spain actually seems to be doing
overall okay. For all of its faults and the weird
let's kidnap girls things, there's no major wars between factions.

(09:33):
There's they have a lot of their ways of life
have are completely unchanged, you know, but it was you know,
like I said, yeah, they're bringing back the Louis the
sixteenth Court thing going on here and how everyone else

(09:53):
can just kind of make do and they're living very
well in this court with all the china and the
good food and and even the laughter and stuff at
the play was very you know, throw back to to
that Louis the sixteenth, you know, partying while the rest

(10:16):
of the world suffered.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
M well, you know, even how you know, Pause and
Daryl were able to get in there seemed okay. So
that seemed a little weak to me as well, Like
they're just literally just gonna walk in there and put
some mask on and nobody has noticed them. That seems

(10:38):
odd to me as well. Oh, I thought that was
kind of strange too.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Hell, he can't even speak Spanish, I know, because they
handed a mask.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
They're just like go do yeah, And I'm like, you know,
considering how high security it wasn't the last city they
tried to get into, it was going to be that
easy to get in, right, why didn't they just go
to Barcelona to begin or go to.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
It wasn't Barcelona, No, it's some you mean where they
are now, Sola Delmar. Yeah, why did they just go
there to begin with? I don't know, that's a good
question because they could have saved themselves a lot of
heartache if it was just so easy just walk up
in there. Yeah, and you would think it would be
more security because they have their little supposed king there

(11:31):
and the preants there. So why would you not have
that place locked down?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't know, because I didn't really to come. I
didn't really see a lot of security, did you, No,
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I didn't. I didn't see people standing around with weapons
like they probably should have been, right, you know. I mean,
and they let these people just jump on a onto
a truck and go, we'll work, Yeah, without some food
and stuff. Come on, let's go, just random people. It
was kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
I mean, and maybe this is like a once a
year thing because they're having a big party.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
I don't know, but it just did seem rather odd. Yeah,
which also leads me to belief that they are just
very cocky with everything. There's just no way anyone would
come and dare try to do anything here. Then again,
up until Darrel walked in, they had they hadn't, Yeah,
they hadn't. You know, I don't know. It just seems odd,

(12:32):
especially when the soldiers come back and they bring the
girls to know, like, hey, this one girl was a troublemaker.
All this stuff happened, and you know, when what's his
face comes back, it says, hey, we were attacked and
all of this. They should have been on lockdown. They shouldn't. Sorry, Yeah,
it doesn't quite work when you start getting, you know,

(12:54):
as we do, digging into the weeds of the story itself.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, well it just it struck. I mean, I guess
it was the final episode that they need. You know,
they couldn't have spent the whole time just trying to
figure out how to get into the place, right.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Which is kind of what we said last time. We
were like, how are they going to wrap this up
so quickly? They have a lot of things to do
with a short amount of time.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, so, and I can't. I mean I didn't hate it.
I didn't, you know, is while watching it. I mean
I was you know, I I wasn't bored mm hmm.
But yeah, the I was really hoping for a little
more clarity, Like once It's like, once they were in there,

(13:38):
they had that that moment between is A not Isabella,
but uh what what was her name? The girl that
they came to rescue.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Justina Justina. I had that moment between Justina and and
the princess, you know, and she's like no, no, here's
the stress. It'll be fine, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
And she's and Justina staring out at the two girls
that we're cleaning, and she's she was kind of smiling
down at him, and then you know, they got beaten up,
and the princess is like, oh no, you just you know,
you don't understand. And I'm thinking this has been a
perfect time for her to explain the situation and actually
have it be natural, you know, so it's it's not

(14:25):
like a voiceover or you know, a weird space to
put that information. And she could have said, no, this
is how things are done and why, and it could
have been a little five minute little thing to give
us that clarity.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
But you know, the Walking Dead franchise as a whole
has always been weak kind of to me on exposition
and world building, you know, when it comes to the details.
It's never really been all the way right. Yeah, and
those little things make a difference, especially when you feel

(15:03):
like you want to know the why of it, and
a little bit of exposition never hurt anybody. I mean,
sixty seconds, she probably could have summed that up pretty quickly. Yeah,
you know, so this is the deal.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
You know, so many girls were brought in, so, you know,
and they're picked and this is this is why they
do it or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Just accept it.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, and and then that would have been because you
and I have discussed this all season.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
What are they doing with these girls? Right? Why are
they doing this right?

Speaker 3 (15:37):
And why take because it was mentioned that they were
only supposed to do this one time at the very beginning,
So the first round of girls that were picked up,
and they're like, no, we just need to do this
one time to keep the royal bloodline going or something whatever,

(15:57):
it was the implication. But okay, so but why have
they been doing it ever since?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah? Good question? I mean are because here's the thing.
I can't imagine it being that difficult to convince young
some younger girls to go and live a life of
luxury where they never have to work again and have
everything taken care of for them. I'm not saying that

(16:26):
you know, they're they're gonna get everyone, but you and
I both know there are enough people out there that
would go. You know, it probably wouldn't be so bad,
they would they Well see, this is also something that
I'm unclear on because I thought we had like a
working I guess theory that the girls that they were

(16:47):
picking were younger, right, and they aged out. But when
I see these girls, I'm like, they all seem like
they're about eighteen years old. They all seem older. No
one's younger.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, well I think it's I think they're because the
group of girls they had from you know, from what's
her names group? They were from what like fourteen to
eighteen something like that.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
And I thought the girl that she had originally was
upset about leaving, you know, being taken. I thought she
was younger, but she was like fourteen or fifteen.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, like I said, because I know that they they
had said that that was her, that would have been
her last year.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm sorry that actress they picked does not look fifteen
years old. Wow, not close. She looked twenty five years old.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Maybe, yeah, but I think the girls were supposed to
be like between fifteen and eighteen or something like that.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Well, and then another aspect to this that's kind of
questionable is so when they picked the girls, they're supposed
to be theirs, right, they picked them, they're theirs. But
yet when the Walkers got little Justina says to the guy,
take me with you. Yeah, I'm like, what what do
you mean? I didn't understand why she did that and

(18:09):
why she just didn't run away. I don't think she
knew that Daryl was there to come get her, I'm sure,
but I still would have ring up for it. Why
would I want to go with that guy? I don't know.
Maybe she thought she'd be safer if her knife up
the sleeve. And okay, so again, look, Justina is she tried?

(18:32):
She and I was excited when they gave her one kill.
I said, oh, they actually let her kill something, because
this girl is the worst, Like she gets you have
a weapon and it's taken from you almost immediately. Yeah,
like when what good are you? You can't do anything?
And I'm like, oh, well they let her kill one

(18:53):
one walker. Okay, so I guess she did do something,
but she just seems like, I don't know, oh, so
helpless a little bit, which because I if I had
been her, I wouldn't have said take me with you.
I just would have ran. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I would just ran my ass out of there. I
have a weapon, I'm out. Yeah, but no, but now, yeah,

(19:19):
it was weird. I guess I guess if that's what
they want to do with her. It's almost a waste.
I feel like it wasn't the payoff wasn't. Like I
said earlier, I didn't feel like the payoff was worth
all of the drama that led into this.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, I like I said, I was just I didn't
hate the episode, but I was disappointed in it as
being a season finale.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah. So, also at the oh Al Khazar, I guess
that's the name of the little castle they were out at.
So also Pause and Alena had their reunion, and of
course you mentioned that we found out about Elena's sun Galermo.
I don't know why. I had like a tongue twister

(20:10):
or something going on, but anyway, so he ends up
getting killed. But that also felt a little lackluster to
me as well. I don't know, I feel like I
was expecting him to be this really, really really bad

(20:30):
character and he was only comically bad.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I mean, he he was never really portrayed as like
a strong guy. You know, he was strong because of
the guys he had around him.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
You know, he himself never really did anything to say
that he was a tough guy. Yeah, he was just
someone who used power to be powerful. M hm and yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I was a little surprised though, because I had the
way that they had talked about him.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I thought he was the king.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
And it turns out, you know, that he was just
the prince, that he would eventually become the king, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
But I did I like the scene. I like when
they killed him. Yeah, that was refreshating. I knew he
would have to die in order for Elena to leave
with Boss, so that was fine. That kind of came
to fruition as I kind of expected it to. Darryl
also got Justina and the other girl, so he escaped

(21:42):
with her, Anfreid everyone else, like we thought he would
do all the other girls.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Now, I did think it was kind of interesting that
they decided to take all the girls back to the
to the safe house, which I kind of get. But
now that the court is dead and everyone in it
is pretty much gone, why not take them back to
their villages.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Maybe they'll make their way there on their own, because
we know, like for example, Pas and Elena, they are
not going back. You know, they're not going back to
that town. Yeah, of you know, so Les dem R.
But they're going on their own path, right, And so
I'm going to assume that the other girls will somehow
get back to where they belong as well.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, well, because they just said they were going to
take them all back to the safe house.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, but that's probably just a temporary thing. I gotta
believe although we probably will never see these girls again.
They're done. They're off the page now. Yeah, they're they're
they're away, mm hmm, because like, why just keep them there.
I gotta assume that they're going to go back to
where they belong eventually they'll get there. Well, technically, a

(22:49):
lot of the reason why that safe house exists is
to keep them safe from the king, and if the
king is dead, most of them could probably go home. Yeah, absolutely,
And then again they might choose not to because you know,
they did give them up, so but you know, they
all think that there was no choice, right, So they're

(23:11):
gonna be like, oh, my family didn't want me to go,
but they had no choice, so they'll go back. Yeah,
most of them will go back, probably, I gotta tell you.
I gotta tell you the thing that really upset me
the most. The ship captains two boyfriends, both dead. Yeah.

(23:32):
I was really upset about that for her. Yeah, dude,
why both Why do they have to kill both of them?
She was so happy. Yeah, everyone can't be happy in
this world. Apparently no one can be happy, I know.
But they could have at least left her one. I know.
I thought that was interesting that she sent them both

(23:54):
with Carol. Yeah, me too, but you know, I guess
she thought they would be able to handle it. Well
they got wrong.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I mean it was yeah, you know, she almost
died too, mm hmm. So, and I'm kind of surprised
she decided to stay in the White the Lighthouse by
herself with them both gone, and not get on the
boat with you know, everyone else.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, that was crazy. So let's talk
about Carol in her little rescue attempt of h Antonio.
I knew that wasn't gonna work out. I mean, it
worked out, but it didn't work out for Carol specifically. Again,

(24:38):
Darryl comes in and saves them, as I was expecting.
But I'm like, Okay, she's gonna go sneak in, sneak
him out, and I don't know, I just felt like
that was such a it wasn't thought through.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Well, she wanted to go in there and get them before,
you know, while everyone was still there.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
They're holding her back, like, wait, what are you doing?
You can't just run out there? Well, and yeah, I
don't know, there could have been a better plan. Yeah,
like give yourself, I don't know, thirty minutes to think
of a plan instead of being so hot headed. I mean,
I feel like she had the time. She had enough

(25:21):
time to sit there and talk, you know, to Roberto
about his dad, right. I don't know. I just felt
like her plan was half baked. Yeah, and only because
she has plot armor is the reason why she's not dead.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Well, and even part of it too is you know,
when they did come out and everyone was supposedly gone,
you know, she took the time to go hi, Why
didn't you just run up and just let him out?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah? Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know this, this isn't a time for high This
is a time for oh god, let's get you down right.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
We're not having a conversation right now, right, Yeah, the
conversation can come later. Mm hmm. Yeah. And he was
pretty you know, after being hung up there, and he's
pretty weak, and it seemed like it was almost impossible
for him to walk on myst at first, it was

(26:20):
like not a good situation. I don't know. I just
didn't love that rescue attempt. I feel like it was
kind of clunky. And again, Darryll to the rescue. He
comes in, of course, and I knew. I'm like, he's
on his way there, so you just have to wait
it out, yeah, and he'll be there to help you

(26:41):
out of your mess, which he did. But I gotta
say that scene in itself though, the way that Fede
kind of like tricked them into going out there, and
with the walkers they set loose on them, I think
that was like a unique way to try to kill them. Yeah,
that scene was kind of interesting visually to see and

(27:02):
I'm like, oh, they don't even have any weapons. Oh no,
But in my mind, I'm like, we just got to
wait for Daryl to show up, right well, and then
the one what you know, the the one girl did
throw down a knife to Carol, she did, you know,
but it got shot away. Yep. Somebody tried to help yep. Yeah.

(27:23):
But I thought that scene was good, you know, predictable
but good. But what wasn't predictable to me is that
both Roberto and Justina made it alive out of this episode.
I know, I was I was waiting for one of
them to die. I'm not gonna lie. I really didn't

(27:46):
think Roberto was gonna make it out. I really didn't. Well,
I still think that one of them is gonna die.
There's more time next season for one of them to
be off, yeah, because I just can't imagine they're going
to get this happily ever after. I can't imagine. I

(28:07):
don't know they are good. If they make it, then
Antonio is gonna die. One of the three of them
is going to die.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, Soldy's saying yeah, and well, and then they bring
back the character from last season.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, and like the final like that last end part.
I'm like, how the hell did this guy find I mean,
he didn't find them yet, but they He just happened
to land himself in the same spot like Caudron. I
don't know how he did that. That doesn't mean some
sense because we saw him earlier, you know, and he
saw the Ruby's cube. Yeah you know.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
So okay, so now he knows that Darryl is somewhere
more than likely I mean more then again, I mean
someone else I suppose could have Ru's cube there.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
But you remember where he was right when he got
separated from them. He was at that border in between
France and England that you know, the tunnel thing. So
how in the hell did he end up in Spain. Well,
he obviously didn't make it to England. Yeah, he turned
around him. No, but it just seems weird. They better

(29:17):
explain that in a way that makes sense. Yeah, my
guess is he went back, he didn't go forward. But
what are the chances though, Like that is such a
huge country, the border is so big, we don't know
that's him going west versus east, you know, and it's

(29:38):
that just seems so unlikely, unreal. They didn't have bread
crumbs to.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Follow, right, I think they're gonna make it just happenstance.
He wasn't actively looking for them, He was just he
just happened to come here and oh, look here you are.
He was on his way to Barcelona. Note, I don't
know Carol's gonna have two boyfriends.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Now, Oh, I don't know. Look last season I said, oh,
Carolyn Caudron maybe maybe maybe, And now I'm like, oh,
Carolyn Antonio.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
What Yeah, but Carolyn and Katron never really I mean,
they were nice, but they weren't no.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Nothing actually happens. Like with Antonio, nothing happened. But I
guess I was rooting for something for Carol and she
got it this season with someone else. But I'm curious
to see, like what that raport is going to be
when you know, they come across each other again all
of yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well, now here's a question, because we saw him stop
and kind of look at the boat on fire.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Is he gonna go to investigate or just go I'm
moving on? You know, you know, I'd like to think
he might go check it out. It's odd to see
a boat on fire. Yeah, you know which, speaking of
the boat that said he was they weren't getting on

(31:06):
that boat. I really thought I thought they would let
them get on the boat. But something bad happen again
or something. No boat, you're stick here. They're starting to
run out of ways to get back to the to
the US. I mean just saying.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
And we never got a real big payoff on the
whole thing with Daryl and in these flashbacks.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
No, we didn't get that either, not really. I think
what resulted in that was I guess him telling Carol
about his need to just keep moving right. Yeah, but
that yeah, it was weak. It was weak. Yeah, I
mean they have. We've had these flashbacks all season, right,

(31:57):
and we still really don't hadn't seen much more than
we had seen.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
It was the same flashback essentially. You know, we weren't
getting any more information. So if that's the end of it,
I'm going to be a little disappointed.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, so maybe that will continue into next season, maybe
being that he's finally kind of identifying one of his
issues and now he's openly said he kind of has
a fear that, you know, they'll get home and he'll
want to leave again. Yeah, but I would like to
see I wanted it tied up this season. I wanted

(32:36):
to know what change would happen because of those flashbacks,
and nothing right now, right, So that was kind of
another loose end mm hmm. But I don't know they're
going to be still trying to get home. Padrone's going
to be reintroduced to them. Who knows who the bad

(32:56):
guy is going to be next season. I don't know
how in the wind they're gonna dress Darryl and his
feelings about whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Then how are they planning, you know, because we had
a plane, you know, there was a boat a couple
of times. Now this boat's gone.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
They're gonna have to go back by If they're ever
going to get back, it has to be by boat.
But now I'm kind of wondering maybe maybe they don't
go back. Maybe they don't go back, maybe they have
a new family. Mm hmm. That would kind of suck.
I think the fans would be very upset. Yeah. I
want to see the two of them go home, I

(33:35):
really do. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
But maybe they're just setting us up for him and
Carol to finally come to terms with the fact that
they're they can't go back and they need to stop running.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
M h and I guess.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I mean, honestly, of all the places they've been in,
Spain would probably be the nicest mm hm. Although now
that they've killed King, God only knows what's going to happen. Yeah,
I mean they did kind of keep some kind of order.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Mm hmm. Hey Carrol could, hey, Carol could be queen again?
Oh no, no, no, none of that. No Queen Carol.
Oh come on, no, none of that. No, Carol's trying
to get out of there. She wants none of that.
I don't and I don't want that for her. She

(34:29):
she wasn't good at it. No, that's true, but she was.
I mean she was a queen for a while. Yeah,
she was, and she tried to run away from it.
So there that's that. But yeah, I don't know. I
feel like a lot happened, but not a lot happened.

(34:53):
So we essentially had two missions, right, which we talked through,
and then the climax, and that's it, with a lot
of open plot holes kind of still. Yeah. I mean
Farado or far Day or whatever his name was. You know,
he got called out mm hmmm, and then put in jail, yes,

(35:14):
and then his mama let him out, of course, of course.
And why would they even let her go down there
alone to feed him?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
I mean, because they're stupid, Like what would you Why
would you let the mother go down here and talk
with his smooth, jive talking liar son.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
She's gonna let him out. So and I wonder who's
gonna be the ruler there? I mean, because really, there
wasn't any other person that comes to that we met
throughout the entire thing that would be a good leader
for those people.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
They don't need a ruler, they need a counsel or something,
oh yeah, something. But apparently there was really not that
many people there. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it anymore.
I thought there were more at one point, but they do.
But of course they did have that whole thing with
the attack. You know, the fire Walkers were shot at them.

(36:14):
So maybe they lost some people and really didn't show it.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Because every time they had like the people get together
that there was like, what twenty people, most of them older.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So again, this is a reoccurring issue on this show.
We always question how many people are there? Yeah, this
is a reoccurring theme over and over. Is it twenty
people or fifty people or ten? What is it? Well,
because here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
If they have to give a girl every year, mm hmm,
all right, that's a lot of girls to be who'.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Was birthing these babies and growing up?

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Who? Wait?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Because I didn't really because weirdly, when we first okay,
so when everyone kind of first, when when they first
walked through, we saw a lot of kids. But in
this last episode when they when they're supposed to have
like everyone there, and I got to think it about
we haven't seen a single kid in this epen in

(37:19):
this show since that first introduction to the city and
that first introduction to the city seemed to show, you know,
one hundred or more people there, but they're towards you know,
the last of it. We see like twenty.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
And there's no young girls. There's just the one. I
didn't even really notice any of the other girls that
were supposed to be picked, did you. No, I didn't.
So where are all these people? Maybe they're hiding in
the houses. Maybe. I guess it is weird. It's strange.

(37:58):
I mean, come on, guys, just spring for the extras. Yeah,
you know the extras. Yeah, it's odd. Like always always
though with these shows, it's the same stuff over and
over again. We have the same reoccurring issues every season,
no matter the show. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Well, because again, like I said, when we first walked,
you know, when when Carolyn Darroll first walked into that city,
we saw kids, like young kids playing soccer and you know,
a full marketplace and you know, lots of people milling around,
and we saw like twenty people come in for you know,

(38:40):
Roberto being strung up.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
M h. He's like, I want all the people to
come and see this, right, Well, where are all the people?
Where are all the kids? Because they're scared of you
that's the only thing I can think of. Yeah, where
are all the kids? Where's you know, where's the marketplace?
Where's because we haven't seen any of that since then?
Mm hmm, it's just cird. Yeah it is. I agree. Yeah,

(39:07):
I don't know, hmm. I wonder if they're gonna stay
there next season when we start next season, if they
are going to be in the same town, because you know,
Fete is gone and I don't know, maybe they'll help

(39:28):
them figure out what to do next before they get
into their net their next misadventure. I guess maybe. Maybe,
But again, we know that the next season is the
show's last season it is, Yeah, and I wonder if
it's going to be seven episodes again.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
So if they start off in that same town, I mean,
they really have no way back.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Look, I honestly don't think Okay, So if they hypothetically
send them back to America, I think it's going to
be one of these things where we see them depart
on whatever vessel they are able to find, and it's
left up to us to yes if they make it
back or not. We're not going to actually see them

(40:13):
back in America. That's not going to happen. I can't
see how how could they do that in six or
seven episodes?

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, and I don't really like that. They could have again,
they could have had them sailing off into the sunset
or into the morning light whatever it so that that
so they could have started next season with you know,
them on their way back.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yep. Nope. I think they're going to record again right
where they are because it's cheaper, and so that also
leads me to them not going back at all. So
I think one or two things are going to happen.
They're either not going to go back, They're going to
decide to start their life there with their new family,
or like I said, we're in the last so they're

(41:00):
going to find some random mode of transportation that should
get them back and we'll just see them then go
off into the sunset, whether it's in a plane or
a boat. Yeah, that's going to be the end of it,
you know. And honestly, they could have just they could
have sent them to Mexico. They could have landed in

(41:22):
Mexico and the architecture would have been similar to that
of Spain. Yeah. Yeah, they just need to get them
to the continent. Yeah, and then yeah, they could have
spent more time time in Mexico. But I guess since
Fear already spent time in Mexico, they didn't want to
do that. Probably, I don't know. I don't know. I'm

(41:44):
just saying they could have stayed in Spain and said
it was Mexico. Mm hmm. They could have.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Similar architecture, similar language. Most Americans aren't going to notice
the difference. Yeah, yeah, I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I don't I just wish I kind of could see
what their endgame is here. I just have this strange
feeling we're all going to be disappointed with it. Yeah,
I mean I really did overall like this season. I did.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
I just for a finale. I just it didn't it
didn't stick the landing as far as I was concerned.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, I think that I like this season better than
season one. It's about neck and neck with season two.
I don't know. I just overall it was a decent season.
I just wish, like you that they had stuck the

(42:45):
landing a little bit. Yeah. Maybe, I don't know. It
was fine, it was a fine enough finale. Well, I
remember the finale next year, know, Okay. Krena says eight
episode's final season. Okay, thanks, so we get one more.

(43:07):
So maybe they have a little bit more bandwidth to
do something else. But I don't know. I doubt it
eight seasons. Unless they throw a couple of longer episodes
in there, we're not going to be satisfied. I cannot
imagine they're going to do the right thing. When when
have these writers, with exception of the Rick and Mahone

(43:30):
spin off, done things that the fans have been actually
happy about? True, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Maybe they'll find a plane, I don't.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Know, and then you got to figure out how to
fly that mug. I mean, you can't just learn overnight.
It's probably easier to learn how to sail than the
fly a plane. It is I would have met well,
especially like a single engine plane. It's not like you
can just set auto and go right. I don't know,
it's I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I'm I wish I had more faith in the writers.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yeah, they've let us down so much that we're just
kind of like whatever, expect the worst.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I'm on this train wreck to see where it ends,
not to see if it's good.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
No, because I feel like at this point, like no lie.
Like generally speaking, I think we're past if it's good, right,
We're just committed to the ride. Yeah, I feel like
I'm being held hostage a little.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Bit Stockholm syndrome a little Yeah, they must be like
that because for some reason, I won't get off the ride.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
We're very close to the end though, because again, this
will be the final season of Daryld Dickson. There's one
season four Dead City m and then that's as far
as I know the end.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Well, I think I heard some people kind of talking
about more spin offs. Okay, nothing's been solidified, I don't think,
but I feel like I saw some chatter about that online.
I don't know who it would be or what it
could be. Yeah, I know people really really want to

(45:29):
see Darryl and Rick reunited at some point, and again,
we could have that at the end of season three.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
You know, if we could just get Daryl and Carroll
back to the United States, so we could have in
that final episode their reunion and it would be glorious
and everyone would be happening this show or of Dead City,
this show. In the final episode of Daryl Dixon, they
can have Carol and Daryl walking through you know, the

(45:58):
city walls and well, okay, so it probably could happen.
If they did a time jump, it could happen. It
would have to be probably some weeks worth for them
to get back, and yeah, bam, we're home.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Surprise. Everyone rejoiced in reunion. Yay, it could happen, but
I'm not hopeful. I don't think they'll give us what
we want. Ocean Side accidentally set a ship over to
Spain and had ranted to Carol, Oh the fiasco of that. Well,

(46:37):
we know that ocean Side did have a I mean,
they did have a you know, a fishing boat. But yeah, oh,
what if they find a cruise ship and the captain
is like, everyone, get on the cruise ship, let's go.
We're all leaving.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Oh dude, cruise cruise ships are so big and they
need so many people to write.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I mean, I know they'd have to teach every single
person what to do the engine room alone. I know,
I'm just kind of being ridiculous about it. Maybe a barge.
Maybe I had a barge. A barge could be handled
by a small crew, can it. I don't know much

(47:21):
about barges. Yeah, they could be I think you can
run a barge on as few as probably five six people.
Mm hmm. Well, I don't know. We'll have to see.
With this finale, we got to at least someone had
a happy ending pause and Elena had a happy ending. Yeah,

(47:43):
and you know, Justina and Roberto had a happy ending
because they're back together. Yes, And the rest is all
up to you know what the writers decide to do
it them next season. I mean we still have you know,
you know, Carol and at Borough, Antonio Antonio. Yeah, I

(48:06):
mean they're together, so you know that's that's nice. Yeah,
and Antonio has the sunback, so he's happy. Yeah. So
so yeah, they had some happy things happened, So I
guess I don't know.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
It was fine if they ate their hot dogs, so
you're the hot they did.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
They ate the hot dogs. So I think if I
were to rate this episode out of ten, this would
probably be like a six out of ten. Yeah, probably
I would agree with that. Yeah. It wasn't the worst ever,
but definitely not the best. No.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Like I said, I mean, it was a good app
If it wasn't the finale, it would have been a
fun I would have rated it higher, but as a finale,
it just didn't didn't sit right.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Mm hmm. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
It just it just seemed kind of lack lester for
a for a season finale, well, you.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Know, because they made us think that all the stakes
were super high and they really weren't, not in that way,
because you know, they just killed all the bad people. Okay,
next Yeah, no big losses, not really so yeah, you know,
the captain lost our men. But I felt really bad

(49:28):
for her about that. Yeah, And I was expecting, you know,
like I said, I was expecting at least Roberto, you know,
or Justine to die one or the other, right, because
I don't know, Justina would have been the perfect person

(49:51):
to die, because like I said, she's almost useless in
this world, and she would have been the perfect person
to die. All it took was one of those walkers
to bite her from the stage. I'm just gonna point
out her and Roberto both are pretty worthless. Yeah, yeah,

(50:11):
I mean they have a small set of skills, but
not a good set of skills. No, who knows, maybe
next season when we find them, when we come back
to them, they would have had some training time and
with Darryl, and they are refreshed and ready to do battle.

(50:32):
Kind of characters hardened a little bit, still together, but
maybe just a little more capable. That'd be nice. Yeah,
that would be nice. If they're going to be around
for another season, do something. Don't have to keep getting rescued, right,
you know, don't do stupid things like crash cars and

(50:54):
get knives taken from you. I go on picnics while
you're trying to run away. Yeah, those kind of things.
I don't know. Be a little smarter, I guess. But
we'll see. Since they made it out, maybe we'll get that.
Maybe we'll get a refreshed version of them. Yeah. I

(51:15):
don't know. That's all I got. I feel like there
wasn't much more. Again, the episode in itself was really simple.
Two missions, both missions accomplished and done. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, okay, everybody,
let us know what you thought of this season finale.

(51:37):
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you rate it? Are you excited for the final season?
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