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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hey everyone, Welcome back to the recap of the Walking
Dead universe. We are here live every week during the
show season to discuss the latest episodes. Today we are
covering the Walking Dead Dead City season two episode.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
One, Power is Power. I'm your host, Tamara, and I'm.

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Speaker 3 (00:58):
Hey, Sarah on it today. Hey Tayra, hear. My name
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things pop culture.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
So are you excited to be back on lives?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I am.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I've been doing really good, you know, as we've recorded
some things, but now that we're live, apparently I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Speak neither can I I'm stuttering all over the place.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's a mess y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm like, we have no problem when we're just recording, which,
by the way, we are covering the last of us,
the current season.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
So if you have not been aware.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
On YouTube, it's available and it has its own feed
on audio. So if you're curious to what we have
to say about this season of that show.

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It's available right now.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
So before we get oh, go ahead, girl, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
No, I was just gonna say, it's fun to be back.
We have been gone. It just seems like almost forever
since the last time we were talking about The Walking Dead.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
It has been a long time. I don't even maybe
half a year, maybe longer.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was before thanks right around Thanksgiving I think was
our last show.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, so like six months. Yeah, wow, it's been a while.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
And guess who did not go back and rewatch any episodes?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
You?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah? I did not, did you?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I did not? But I well, I will say because
when they started the season up, you know this episode,
it did a pretty good recap. But I did go
back and watch the first episode a second time today.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh okay, good for you, I'll bring out of time.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, it was there was a lot of darker scenes,
and I wasn't and I was thinking, I'm like, I
may have missed something, and I so I came upstairs
and I watched it on my giant monitor in my
office and I'm like, oh, okay, where I sat, you
know about fo you three feet away from it? And

(02:58):
I did miss something. So I got I watch it again.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
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(03:21):
back in our view style, right, Lisa.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh, absolutely, Tamber. This is a conversation, not a dissertation, right.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
No scene by scene breakdowns here. We jump around in
a lot, and of course a huge boiler alert for
everything in this world through yesterday's episode. We do not
watch ahead, so you're safe from that. So if you're
good with that, this is the place for you, and
let's jump into episode one. All right, Okay, So I

(03:48):
gotta say, I got to turn back on that AMC.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Plus I got I as a funny. Did you watch
the after the after thing of the show. I did, okay,
because I got to tell you watching that scene where
Nigan is eating the roaches, yes, and it turns out
that they had actually put some actual roaches on that plate.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yes, hat like half were real roaches, and he ate them.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
He didn't know because and I didn't know this, but
I guess he needs glasses.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Now, Yeah, he couldn't see. I guess that's right.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Give the blind person a plateful of.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Well, you know, they were sure to let us know.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Hey, they were like roasted it cooked, you know, and
it was safe for consumption, so it's fine.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
And I guess, just to be me or you know,
just to be funny, I guess the one of the
scene guys was like, make a few of them extra
you know, juicy, and so he didn't know what he
was going to get, and I guess every one of
them had a different flavor and a different texture. But
so those the reaction of him eating each of those

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was authentic.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So gross. I met out. I'm like, oh, I feel
bad for you, dude. That's awful.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, you could tell he was a little salty about it.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, just just a little bit, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
And then I guess to make him feel better, some
of the other people ate the roaches too, just so
he wouldn't feel.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Like it's a team effort here, We're gonna take one
for the team and also eat a roach.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
You know, I just needed I needed to share that,
you know. I felt that because I just I thought
it was kind of funny, because he really he had
this really interesting reaction if you watch him, you know,
eating those that plate of roaches and yeah that that
was real.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Nah, yeah, I don't know how. I don't know how
that tastes. I hope I never find out what that
tastes like. But I'm sure it was not delicious.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, as he said, crunchy on the outside, sauce off
on just like you. You know, I'm gonna ask you,
did you think it was gonna be Megan sitting in
a cell at the beginning of this episode or him
running the city.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I thought he would already be doing it. Yeah, I
didn't think he'd be locked up.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Still.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, I figured that Megan would go all right, fine,
you know, I'll bring back the old Meagan. It's got
to be better than eating roaches in a cell. But
I will say this, he's been there for a year,
and I admire his dedication.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
He held out, you know, he was hy know.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I think he actually really doesn't want to return to
that version of him.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
So he was whole now.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
And plus you know, they had nothing on him for
the longest time.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, they're like, well, we can go after the kid.
He's like, yeah, but I don't know if you met Maggie.
You met Megane. Remember Maggie. You know she kind of
came through here like a chainsaw.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Oh, she's a mama.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Bear and she will bite you and each tear your
throat out exactly.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
So he figured, you know, as long as Maggie was
back at the settlement and she was, you know, they're safe,
that they were both safe and and so he was fine.
And the one girl too, his you know little follower
was there as well. So and they didn't even know
about her.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, yeah, she was a secret still, which is great
until you know she served herself up.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
So you know, I guess we'll find out what happens
with that.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
But and then but then, you know, he finds that,
oh we found your wife and son. They're on their
way here, I know.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
And it's crazy because of course I remembered his wife's
name was Annie. But then when they said Joshua, I said,
is that it Sun's name? I did not remember at
all what that kid's name was, and I was like,
it must be right, they're saying it, But I had no.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I don't know that they ever mentioned it. It was
just you know, the kid.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
And yeah, he you know, he sent them on their
merry way to get them out of the whole situation.
But here she is on her way back, like it
or not. Yeah, and in Nagan is pragmatic. He is,
so he would be willing to sit in that jail

(08:21):
cell probably for the rest of his life. He has
a lot of experience sitting in jail cells at this point.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I mean, he had a lot of experience with putting
people intall sales.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
So I'm sure he can adjust. You know, it's fine.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, I mean he sat there in Alexandria for.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
A years years. Yeah, he's accustomed.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
But they did feed him better there, yeah they did.
They treated him like a human.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, they did. So you know, but he was willing to.
He didn't want to go back to who he had been.
But and I guess we're going to find out if
he really does or if this is just going to
be like a coat he puts on to get out
of this mess.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I think, honestly, I think he's gonna ride the line,
you know. I think at first he's gonna be playing
a part, right, playing a bit, pulling up the old
material that they want, right, and eventually I think he's
gonna skirt the line a little bit.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
He might start feeling himself again.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
You know, that could totally happen, But I think seeing
Jenny show up there might snap him back, if that's
if that happens.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I will say, I mean, he did put on
something of a show in the church, mm hmm, But honestly,
it wasn't even as good as the one he put
on from last season when they were in that shopping
mall or whatever. It was a hello, you know, yeah,
but his heart was more in it because he he

(09:50):
had a goal and was trying to do something and
he was committed to it, whereas this is not something
he wants to.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Do, no a little bit. So they really forced his hand.
So he's like, fine, I'll do it, but I don't
want to. And it kind of you know, I guess
he got the point across. You know, the thing electrocuted
that guy, and he kind of got with it, and
he had the speech.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
You know, he did his thing.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
He did it, but you could tell he wasn't like
all the way dialed in.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
The swagger was yeah here, And that's what I really
noticed was the lack of swagger because again last season
when they were trying, when when they got caught up
in that by that group, they're in the shopping mall
or whatever it was, and he, I mean he pulled
out the old Niga and with the swagger and the

(10:46):
drawl and the attitude. Yeah, and he kind of had
the attitude here in the church scene, but you could
tell that this was reluctant.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I think he did mp it up a little when
he saw things were kind of going left. You know,
He's like, Okay, this might not be as easy, and
so it seemed like he did ratchet it up just.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
A little bit right before that guy got electrocuted. Though.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, and the picture, I don't know if anyone how
many people can see it depending on what you're viewing
of this one leader, the dapper looking man, he seems
to be enjoying the show throughout most of this.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
He is, he's having a good time watching, like what's
going on here?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, so he's not quite as you know, blood thirsty,
I guess, or maybe he is, he just shows it
a different way. But yeah, he's very much enjoying the show,
and it is a show.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
And the ironya it's in like a church, you know,
like a little come to Jesus meeting.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
It's a come to Jesus.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
But you know, I think it's gonna be fun to watch,
you know, Meagan's character this season. I think time and
the separation from these characters. You know, I don't have
as much disdain in my heart for Megan's character anymore.
It's kind of faded to like a dull, dull roar,

(12:17):
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
So it's not the visceral, isn't you know, boiling.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
It's not as strong anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
So, you know, I guess I'm more excited to see
what this looks like from you know, a higher level,
now that I've been able to separate myself from it.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
A little hope for a little while.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah. Well, and it also it does kind of show
that because it would have been really easy for him
to fall back into that old persona and do as
she asked and live a pretty good life there in
that city. Yeah, and instead he chose to stay in
a cell. He didn't cockroaches.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
And even like the kid that was watching his cell,
he's made friends with this kid.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, he's got one of those infectious like personalities where
when he turns on the charm, people just like him.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah. Yeah, and I think he genuinely liked this kid,
you know. And you could tell that he very much
enjoyed the violin music.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, he did, you know. So he's doing what he
needs to do, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
And of course he did want to keep Maggie's son safe,
you know, he did want to keep hersonal safe as
well as well as Jenny, because he knew that Maggie
had Jenny right. He does not want them going there.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So but you know, unfortunately the Bricks has been co
opted by the new Babylonian Babylonian.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
You know, Babylon.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Sorry about that. And yeah, so yeah, that's a whole thing.
And even Maggie is like, I didn't vote for this.
Even though you cut off all of our supply lines
and you did all this, I still did not want
to be a part of you.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Oh my god, doesn't that sound familiar? Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
It really does, God.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
But anyway, I thought it was pretty funny that whole Yeah,
you know, fiction imitates life, I guess, so that's what
we're doing.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
So I had asked you earlier today the Bricks where
they're at, because last season we really didn't get a
good picture of what this place looked like. It was
mostly in the dark and just some snippets here and there.
But the opening scene with a we got a good
pan vision of it. Is that the place that they

(14:44):
that Darryl's ex girlfriend with the military people took over
from her years ago? Did you find out?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I did not?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
But okay, so all right, So this is what Google says.
It says the community known as The Bricks is located
in the Tri state area, specifically in New Jersey. It's
a walled farming community established in twenty three by Maggie
and her group, who were originally hil from Hilltop. Do
we know that The Bricks is believed to be situated

(15:17):
in the tri state because the community's trips to other
locations are relatively short by car, suggesting it's in the
region of New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. So I
guess I don't think it's the same.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Okay, Well, because when we were to let everyone in
on this, when when we were still over on The
Walking Dead and Maggie came back and they were low
on food and everything. She is just going to a
place that had been previously occupied by her, that had

(15:51):
supplies that had been taken over by the military or
by the army guys and Darryl's 's girlfriend. So I
was just the structure, the look of the place and
how it's laid out looks very very similar to that.
So they may have just either reused the site or
that is the place that they went to and it
is further than we thought.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, probably, so you know, they reuse the sets and stuff,
so maybe it just kind of looks familiar.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
But her going again, going so far away from Alexandria,
so she's completely out of that sphere and has once
again put her and her people in a bad situation
because you know, if she had stayed back, you know,
towards the Alexandria people. They're doing pretty good.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well yeah, but she didn't want to be around them before,
you know, so, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I don't know, for some reason she wants to be separate.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeap. It continues to make bad life choices.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, she does tend to do that. That's like a
big flaw with her character. She can't be, you know,
I don't know, do the right thing or make the
most sense. She just I don't know. She thinks more
with her.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Heart than her head I think nowadays.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well, and she has for basically since Glenn died.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
She's very reactive and doesn't really think of the pros
and cons of doing something before she does it.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So, and that has caused a lot of problems with
with I mean, her son, other people, you know, other Uh.
She does okay as long as there's nothing very confrontational
m m. But yeah, as soon as there's like some stress,
things get very brittle about her.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
So she ultimately has to prove her worth, right, she
has to prove that she's worth not conscripting more people,
and she's I guess valuable enough. So they throw her
in this fight with Walkers in the Fenston area. And
I feel like that was the stupidest fight. I don't know,
I felt like that was such a waste of time,

(17:58):
like what what are we doing? Like, I don't know, it.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Just seemed.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Extreme, and it was giving that the you know, New
Babylon Federation are bullies and not good people.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oh well we knew that because you know, I mean,
their opening is, hey, we're gonna conscript you to go
do this thing that nobody wants to go do.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
And then they hung someone immediately, so yeah, we're established.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, it's like they're also stupid. I feel like, why
are you doing this? What a waste of time?

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, but they're also I mean they're pretty gleeful about
this whole idea of going and conquering, you know, the city,
and I don't. And the one guy, the colonel, I
don't think he. I don't think he clearly explained how

(18:56):
bad it was there.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, because they're.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Going in there thinking this is going to be a
cake walk, right, which it is obviously not going to be.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
He's got some lines of a mission going on. I
think Pearly Armstrong, who got a promotion, he's now a colonel, Well.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
In part of it's because he came back and said
that he had killed Meagan, which obviously did not did not.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, and they're going to find that out soon enough. Yep.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
And you know Maggie was holding that over his head. No,
you know, I guess I'll just have to go and
tattle on you.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Like you want to keep this up. Okay, I got
some dirt on you too. But okay, so I have
to say, and I don't know this actress's name. I
should have looked it up beforehand, but she was on
Oranges and New Black. The woman that was acting all,
you know, kind of rowdy. What the hell is going
on with that wig? I cannot stand a fugly wig.

(19:56):
And every time I see someone's hair that looks copoly
out of whack, I just cannot ignore it.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
It is a distraction. What the hell is going on?
Who thought that was a good idea? I can't.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
I'm gonna be real, chief. I didn't pay attention.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Every time she was on screen, I could do nothing
but look at her head.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I'm like, what is happening? I was so.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Honestly, I probably just assumed I was not seeing it correctly.
That's a common issue I have, which is why I
watch it again. But yeah, I probably just figured I
wasn't seeing things right.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
No, you were probably seeing that right.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
And it was just a mess because I mean, come on,
hair and makeup, come on, now, what is going on?
I'm sorry, y'all could do better, you know, I complait
about other people's wigs and hair and stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
That shit.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'm sorry, we're so far into this thing. There's no
reason for you to have a haircut that looks like that.
It looked like a rat's nest on your head. But okay,
I'm done.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Okay, got it out of your system.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
I did, but it was so distracting in those scenes.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I kept looking at her instead of like the whole scene,
but I just kept going back to her, and it
was very distracting.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Okay. So and you can also, I mean, the relationship
between Maggie and Herschel is better. They're in a way
better place than they were when we first met them
at the you know, first last season, but you can
still see that it's it's brittle.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, it's still tense. Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
And it's been a year and they're still kind of
in this shaky place.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Still. He still had a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Of trauma that he has not clearly worked through all
the way, right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Well, And then there's the you know, he's drawing the
pictures of New York and and the what is that
woman's name?

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Madonna?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, and you know, and when Maggie asked him about it,
he's like, I don't know. I guess I saw her
in a billboard.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
He's lying, Yeah, he.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Won't even talk about it.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, that interaction he had with her was very weird
and like off putting. Yeah, it was very creepy, and
I feel like he needs to talk about that with
somebody to get it out, and obviously drawing it is
not enough to get it out, because I'm like, why
are you lying to your mother like this? Like you're

(22:36):
not helping anyone, right, you know, they have this whole conversation.
She tries to explain why she's leaving and that she'll
be back, and he seems to kind of accept it,
but we know he's not gonna stay put.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
No, he's going especially you know, he hit the he
hit the target with his knife and he's like, yeah,
you know, game on.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, He's like, I know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
And now I can be valuable, so he's gonna go
out there.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
And I think I think part of their problem between
he doesn't want to talk and she is terrible at
explaining her motives because as upset as he was about
her going, I think if she had done a better
job of saying, I did this so that twenty other
people didn't have to go. I did this because otherwise

(23:29):
they would have drafted whoever they wanted, and I wanted
to keep you safe and everyone safe. And I don't
think she does a very good job of explaining herself.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
No, she doesn't.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
And on one hand, I kind of understand how parenting
in general, you don't have to explain yourself to your children.
But on the flip side, when you have someone as
volatile as Herschel is and how he's so mad already,
you know, a little extra explaining never hurt anybody.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Right well, and especially in this situation, because he needs
to know what her motives are. Clearly needs to know
what her motives are. And it shouldn't be just I'm
going to New York. It should be they told me
they were going to conscript me either way, and she
should have started with that they were going to conscript me.

(24:24):
They already told me I was going regardless, right, but
I made a deal so that no one else had
to go. And I think that would have made a
difference if he knew that either way this rolled out,
she was going, right. This wasn't her stepping up and volunteering.
This was her making the best of a bad situation,

(24:46):
which she never actually explained to him.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
She didn't, and she had the opportunity when he said, oh,
what you feel guilty, bod nigga, and this is the
bob nigga still, you know, when he called her like that,
like tried to call her out, that was the perfect
opening to say, excuse you, this is what's really happening.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It has nothing to do with him, right, So.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
You know, they already informed me that they were taking me.
I was going to be one of the conscripted, right,
full stop. So I made a deal so that I
would be the only one taken from this community, which
is something you know, which is considering all the other
people they have been rounding up, is pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
So it I think that would have worked if she
had explained that to him. I think that would have
made a difference.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I agree, I think it would have.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
But you know, again, Maggie is doing Maggie, which doesn't
make much sense. But you know whatever, I don't know
how she's such a great leader, to be told, I
don't quite grasp it.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
But okay, I wouldn't be following her. That's just me. Well,
not nowadays anyway, I mean way back in the.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Way back when she was first the leader of Hilltop
before she lost her mind. Yes, because at that point
she wasn't really she was a carrying and decent leader.
Now she's just I don't know, she is such a
brittle person.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Even a year later she's still so she's different but
the same.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah. You can see she's trying. She's talking quieter, you know,
she's trying to be very encouraging to the kids. Oh no,
just you know, remember this, and oh it's okay, and
we'll do that, you know. And and when she was
speaking to them, it was in very soft tones.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Right, like she's cognitizant of how she comes across, and
she's like, on purpose trying to soften things. But the minute,
how she really feels is to talk to him differently, right,
how she really feels is shut up.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm telling you what to do, and that's it. She's
a she.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I think loses her efforts when she's in a stressful situation,
you know what I mean, Like her demeanor kind of
flips back, so.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
As she goes back to her default mood.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah, which has developed and it's so many years now.
I think she's just that way.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, and it's not. I'm pretty sure at this point.
It's not like they have therapists, you know, or really
and everyone is dealing with their own kinds of trauma.
So you know, this is these are all very very
broken people. She's just not. She's much more extroverted about

(27:39):
her issues.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
So I mean, honestly, the whole group of them, Maggie,
Herschel and Jenny, she like you acting crazy, you.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Know, my mom, Like okay, we know that, we know.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Okay, calm yourself down, Like what is happening.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
For whatever I mean? And throughout I mean, since the
very first meeting between Maggie and Jenny, Jenny has for
whatever reason, just been incredibly hostile to Maggie. And when
she first met Maggie, Maggie hadn't even done her wrong, right,
you know, but yeah, you know you can tell that

(28:17):
she does not like Maggie at all. She's staying there
because you know, options are limited.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Right, which is true.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
And honestly, you know, Meagan wanted her to be there,
so she kind of said fine, but you know she's
going to take any opportunity to walk away from that,
and that's what she's done. She threw herself in the
ring to help Maggie and actually that was helpful, you know,
she didn't need the help, honestly.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I guess we'll see how many times Maggie has to
save her or vice versa.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
There's going to be something going on there.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yeah, and we didn't at this point that Herseel's going
to be taggy along behind. Yes, So things will get
interesting very quickly because and there's also going to be
some torn once they get on that island. And we
don't know when Nigan's wife and son will be arriving,

(29:20):
but we will have Maggie and herschel and the girl's name, yeah, Jenny, Jenny.
And you know that he actually does weirdly like Maggie
and it's it's weird, but he does. He does. I mean,

(29:42):
there's some kind of recognition of insanity to insanity or something.
And he really does like Herschel. He's fond of Herschel
and we and we know that you know him and
and and the girl are he found her annoying, but

(30:03):
she was also very much a part of his life
for quite a while, right, and he feels very paternalistic
towards her. Yeah, and in some ways his relationship with
those three people are more recent, more immediate than with
his wife and son.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Oh well, yeah, he hasn't seen them in a long time.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
He hasn't seen them in a long time. And that's
not to say that those feelings aren't there. But if
he gets into a situation where he has to choose
one or the other, I really think it's going to
be a coin toss, really, I really do.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I don't think between him with his own chout, but
maybe with his wife maybe, but not his child.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
You know, And just because he really hasn't been you know,
it's been years since he has seen them and has
had any interaction with them. And I'm not saying that,
you know, he doesn't still love them, but it's only
been a year since he saw Maggie and Herschel, And

(31:08):
why can't I remember her.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Name, Jenny.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Jenny. My best friend in high school was Jenny. You
would think i'd be able to remember that name anyway.
But yeah, the three you know those especially with Jenny,
that he had this long relationship with her, you know
where he kept you know, there was a real feeling there.
So I think it. You know, if the two groups

(31:33):
get pitted against each other, he's going to be in
a very bad place.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, you know, that might be something that comes up.
Or maybe the two sets of you know, extended family
or family will never meet, you know, maybe they won't
even cross paths, right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I'm curious to see what they do with it.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
But I think we will see Annie and Joshua on
screen this season.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But just when.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Who knows. At this point, and we know that they're
on their way, we don't know how long they've been traveling,
and we don't know how fast people are traveling at
this point.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Either.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
We don't know if they're in a bus or what.
We don't know any of that, so it could be
a while. It could be episode seven of eight or
eight of eight.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Who knows, right, I mean, the trains could be running
at this point. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, we don't know. I mean they have power, well,
they have power in Manhattan, right, and the New Babylon
has power as well, but they're running out of it,
which is the whole reason why they want to go
take Manhattan. But I also noticed that they're lying to
people about the motivations of why they're doing that. They're saying, oh, all.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
This history and art. I'm like, what the hell you
are going for? The power? Quit playing around, right, you know,
And you.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Know they were, oh, no, you don't understand. This is
like the this will let people know that we're here. Okay, No,
that's not the reason why they're going there, right, And
they and I don't think they want people to realize
exactly how dire the situation is, because if they lose
the power, they're going to lose this coalition because I

(33:21):
don't think most of these communities want to be part
of New Babylon.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
No, they were all kind of strong armed into it. Yeah,
so they don't want to be And so like you know,
they're getting their power from I think we talked about
this before from Korn from.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Ethanol right right.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
And so at the beginning they showed them like looking
at these dry corn But I don't think that's what
KRN looked like.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I think corn fields in Michigan they don't look like that.
But okay, I'll just you know, let it go. But
they're like, oh, our corn's dead, our fields are dead.
We need something else, and we all know that. You know,
the people in Manhattan, they're using what methane from the dead,
from the dead.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
And I wonder if they know that. Do they know?

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Do you think that Pearley told them exactly how they're
making the power?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
You know? I don't know, because he he's been pretty
I mean, he's giving them information, but he's pretty cagey
about what he's giving them.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
M m.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
And again I don't think he It seems like he
did not give them the full scope of what's going
on in New York because he made it seem like
they can just walk in and take over, right. You know,
there's just a few, you know, roaming bands. No, he
knows that is not true.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
He knows that they're or you know, that there are
groups and while they really only met the one, he
knows that there are organized groups throughout this whole area.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So do you think like he is on purpose setting
them up to fail.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
I think he has lied so much that right now
his only choice is to continue lying and hope that
by the time anyone finds out, it's.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Going to be too late and see how it shakes out. Yeah, wow, business,
I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
There is a hope he knows that he I mean,
he left Megan behind. I mean maybe in the back
of his head, maybe he took over and will be okay,
you know what I mean. Or there's been you know,
an eruption of fights between the various groups or whatever.
I mean, anything, it's been a year. Anything could happen.
This is it's not like things are stable. But I

(35:46):
didn't the I did find it kind of interesting. The
kid that they have following around that's journaling the whole thing.
And I know, we know like in Alexandria they had
a school and they were teaching them. And we know
that in Maggie's community they have a school and they
are teaching them. What is going on with his education

(36:08):
because he seems to think that New York was the
capital of the country.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I know, so again, like, oh my gosh, they have
lost like in another apocalypse story.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
We just don't know history. We don't know geography. We
don't know. If that sounds crazy.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think they know geography, but I you know, because
if they wanted the capital of the country, that obviously
would be Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Right. Why would he think it's New York Who told
him that?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Why if they learned geography, then he would know about Washington, DC?

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Right? And why didn't Maggie correct him? Why hasn't any
adult corrected him?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. I don't know,
but you know.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Such as you know, that's how Walking Dead does. You know,
weird stuff for no reason, like corn that don't look
like corn, I mean, all kind of interesting things they
like to do.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Well, I mean the corn is going bad because of
the the moths, right, and it's it's killing their crops.
So which you know, I live in corn country, all right.
I'm not Nebraska or Kansas, but I'm close yeah yeah,
and I'm you know, I go, you know, ten minutes

(37:35):
outside of my house and there's corn. Yeah, So yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Corn is.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
It is not as hearty of a plant as you
would imagine it to be. It's very susceptible to a
lot of diseases and stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Mm hmm, And well that doesn't surprise me at all.
I mean I just think I think the why the
corn fields are dying makes sense. You know, fine, it's
been infested and is killing the plants.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
That's okay. I just thought it was so weird. I'm like,
what is this? At the beginning, y'all couldn't.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Find like a cornfield that has like in the wintertime
that looks different, you know it was dying or something.
Then you have to be a little more effort on that.
But okay, at first, I was like, what are they doing?

Speaker 2 (38:22):
What is that? And I'm looking is that corn on
the ground. I totally couldn't even figure out what the
hell was going on at first.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, I knew it was corn.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Yeah, I'm like, that looks so weird to me though,
But I don't know it could have spent a little
extra money. I guess they are spending too much money
on trying to make Manhattan look fancy.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Probably they got lights on this like one what couple
of blocks.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
On the one strip? Yeah, which was still impressive for
them because this city has been dark. I mean thing
the group that Dagan is with a part of you know,
Captured Bye does have electricity, but for the most part,
they only they were only turning it on like at
night in one building, right, So they've obviously been working

(39:12):
on this particular scenario turning on all these lights, because
if someone had just flipped the switch and no one
had checked the light bulbs or anything, most of the
stuff wouldn't have come on. So they've been working on
this particular little show for probably a few months.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, they're going around just collecting the dead and throwing
them in those machines like ill.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that there had been a
plan even before they found out that there's going to be,
you know, an invasion, that they were probably going to
try and use their power to browbeat the other groups
into at least you know, giving homage to them. So so

(40:03):
this is kind of probably worked nicely into their plans
that they can get them to fall in line.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I mean, if they control the power, you know, and
they have these apartment complexes and stuff with power, they're
gonna do what they want or give them what they want,
Trede do whatever. To live somewhere with power, like it's
a luxury. It very much is Yeah, I know, I'd
probably do some bad things to live to have a
power in my apartment.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
You know what power is? Power?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
You know, yeah, literally, you know it is especially you
know in the apocalypse, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Right? Well, and that phrase could be I mean again,
you could be power as in, you know, control over
somebody else or powers and just electricity. Having literally having
the power to do these things is a big deal.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Now, yeah, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well, you know, I think overall this was a really
good opening episode. It wasn't too bland, not to it
wasn't that exciting either. It was kind of like in
the middle of the road, you know, we got touch up,
you know what's been happening since we've been gone. They've
set up several things, so I think they checked all

(41:23):
the boxes that were required for a premiere episode.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
I think, you know, and you know, we got this
good clear picture of how Megan has spent the last
year sitting and eating cockroaches and making friends with his
you know, jailers. Yes, but and I guess he's been
hauled up out of there several times because they're like,

(41:48):
just didn't we have this conversation just a few months ago.
So he's been hauled up there a couple of different times,
and he has turned her down every time, right.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
And.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
So that puts Meagan, you know, in the good guy checkbox.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
For now, Yeah, for now or now?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
And who knows where along that path he's going to
be when he eventually runs into Maggie, right, and you
know they're going to I mean, there's just there's no
point in this that they don't run into each other.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I mean, honestly, you know how Maggie she just reacts, right,
So when she sees that he's in charge of something,
she's gonna flip her script. She's gonna be like this again,
Oh ye are he could jump on him like about it,
which she should, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
But she has no idea where he you know, what
was going on when she left him either.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
No, but that's the whole point, like she kind of
let's fight it out now and talk later. You know,
she doesn't really want to hear anything. I'm sure, right right,
that's her character, you.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Know, in a lot of ways, is the calmer of
the two, Yeah, which is kind of sad. You know,
he's the more logic driven between the two of them.
And I'm not saying Nigan is the most stable person.
He is not right, but he does. He does tend
to be slow to anger, true anger. He'll display it,

(43:22):
you know for a show, particularly when he's got the
leather jacket on and such.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
And the bats. Lucille's back, and.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Lucille is back, and she can electrify things.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I know, Like, of course they have to amp that
up a little bit. Yeah, because we're not smashing heads anymore.
We're not doing that.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Hopefully, hopefully we'll see. I guess we'll know if the
real Nigan's back, if he takes that bat to someone
and just beats.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Oh my gosh, do not like have some restraint? Man,
Just electrocute them with it. That's better than being bad head.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Oh yeah, I don't know what the voltages. Apparently it's
not enough to kill because they did take that guy
out of there and he was coming back to consciousness, right,
but but yeah, I mean it's gonna be a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, Oh, what did you think about like the I
guess it was basically a walker fight that oh boy
took him to the croat, Like did you think that
was like two walkers fighting or was it one human fighting?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Like pretending to be a walker.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
You know, I'm that was part of the reason I
wanted to watch the second time, and I'm still not
one hundred percent sure. I'm thinking it was two walkers,
the reason being that at the end of the fight,
when when the when the winning walker jumped on the
other one and they pulled him off, what was left

(44:57):
looked mushy mm hmm. But I don't know, But I
could honestly see them putting two walkers against each other
to do fights and betting on them.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
See.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
At first, I was and I like, unlike you, I
did not get a chance to watch it a second time.
But when I was watching it, I'm like, is he
like banging his head against him with those things?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
I'm like, is that?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
How does it know to do that? Is it just
a coincidence because he's trying to bite it?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Or I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
I don't either. Like I said, I thought that fight
was kind of strange for a lot of reasons, and
that was part of the reason I wanted to watch
it a second time. And I'm still not one hundred
percent sure, because walkers don't tend to try to eat
each other.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Right, So what did they do? To try to get
them to fight each other.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
The only thing I can think of is fresh meat.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Hmm. And where would they get that, I wonder.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I don't know, probably someone they didn't like see.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
See Yeah, uh, because I'm like, what is this Friday
night entertainment? Okay, I guess they have nothing else to do?
There's a lot of people there watching that fight.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah, because I mean, unless there's you know, actual people around,
they tend to just kind of shuffle along and ignore
each other. So yeah, I don't know. I mean maybe
it was a person. Again. I watched it a second
time and the scene was dark and they're covered and

(46:31):
I really couldn't tell.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah, I mean either I was like, Okay, that was
interesting and if I can find maybe I'll go back
and rewatch that clip again because I'm not rewatching that
full episode though. I think I'm kind of done with it,
but I do kind of want to see that section again.
I'm very curious about it now.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, I wish I, Like I said, it was part
of the reason I watched it a second time. And
even on the second watching, I'm looking at them and
I'm both of them are completely covered and when they
pulled the winning walker off. The remains didn't look fresh, right, right,

(47:16):
That's the only way I guess I get this. It didn't.
It looked more walker ish than human ish.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah, so they probably did do some kind of trick
where they threw some like human meat or something in
there to make them think they wanted to eat it
or something. Yeah, or maybe some animal something or another.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Maybe, And if they're starving enough, perhaps they'll go after
each other if they smell, you know, delicious.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Yeah, maybe that's a new thing, because I don't think
we saw that before.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, I don't think we've ever seen two walkers fight.
I mean, we've seen them like climb over each other
and push each other and things like that, but you've
never seen them actually physically engage in a fight with
each other.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Correct. Yeah, Well I don't know, so did you hear? So?

Speaker 1 (48:07):
I think there were a couple news sources and other
you know, I guess, uh super content creators or whatever
that had access to the first six episodes, and everyone
was giving their I guess, impressions of this season, and
it seemed like pretty even down the line. Again, some

(48:27):
people really liked it, some people really hated it, and
even the people that really hated it. I think they
liked it better than season one, and they made a
point to note that the last two episodes were not released,
So I'm like, okay, so maybe there's something good in
there that they just don't want getting out yet. So

(48:48):
I'm excited for that because I haven't seen spoilers and Sally,
the things I've seen have been really respectful. No one
has been spoiling anything, so nice change. Yeah, they've just
been kind of giving like high level opinions. Right, So
I'm like, oh, look at them. They probably were threatened
to a inch of their lives.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
But I don't you dare.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
You'll never get this opportunity ever again.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
But yeah, So I didn't go looking for the information,
but a little bit of it, you know, found itself
into my feed again. So the stuff I did see,
I was like, Okay, this is interesting. So and I'm
sure there are some groups sharing spoilers amongst themselves, but
you know it's not out there to just stumble across,
which is good.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Yeah, and you and I have a good time speculating,
but that's exactly that's all we're doing. We are speculating
based on our own opinions and things, and sometimes we're
right and sometimes we are way off. Yeah, but you
know it's it's kind of fun to do that. It's
not as fun if if someone has spoiled the next

(49:54):
four episodes for us.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah, And to be really honest, so I think the
level of engagement for me in this world with this
show is a lot less critical as it was with
The Walking Dead, the original show, you know how before you.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Might really want to know, oh my god, you know,
even with the the Last not the Last of Us?
What was it? What was the Rick Michauon show called
I can't remember right now? The ones who live? Yeah,
there we go.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
So even in that, you know, we're really anxious to
see what would happen. You know, there was an eagerness
to find out, you know, everyone was like foaming at
the mouth about it. But with this show, I think
the enthusiasm is kind of simmered.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
It's it's not as rabid, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
So maybe that's also why we haven't seen spoilers like that.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Just yeah, and it's not I mean, honestly, I mean,
I am enjoying this particular setup. I am because I
know that you have really disliked Megan, But I've always
liked Meagan as a character. I've loved to hate him.

(51:12):
I've even liked to like him. I've never loved him. Well,
there's a couple of times where he did something very
hysterical and I did kind of love him for a moment,
but no, I've always kind of liked I've liked Megan
as a character. He's entertaining.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Oh he's a great villain. Yes, he's a great villain.
And I think that I started to feel like, when
he's a villain, let him be a villain. I'm okay
with that, and I'm good with hating a villain because
that's what you're supposed to do with that exactly. But
now they turned him into this, you know, trying to

(51:49):
be a good guy, and I think that it kind
of works, but I kind of also kind of wish
they just let him be a villain. But I yes,
they have to evolve him. They don't have to, but
they wanted to. And I'm fine with it now, you know, whatever,
it doesn't I still feel like it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Negate the horrible things he did.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I don't know if you can really make up for
some of the stuff he did now, you know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
He can try and you can see that by trying
to get out of you know, by going away and
trying to find a new place, he was trying to
recreate himself, right, and you know, bad things happen.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, and you know, maybe he can you know, recreate
himself with a new group that never knew him, like
he did with Annie, right.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, and you know, and he was great. I mean,
Annie's group had no idea.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
What an awful person he was. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
They were shocked to find out that he was a
terrible human being. And so he had done a pretty
good job of rehability tating himself.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Right.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
So let's see, is he gonna be able to stay
in that state or is he going to cross back
over right and you know, or are they just going
to have him ride the line the whole season.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
You know, I'm thinking he's gonna be he's gonna be
jumping that rope, you know and like double dutch.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, you know, because he wants to look bad, right,
he wants to do what they want. He wants to
look like he's doing what they want right to keep
his family safe. But at the same time, he's probably
trying to keep his soul in his body.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Right, you know, and you and there's also that line
of so we know that he's doing this because he's
being forced to do this, but when does he start
doing Will he start doing it because he wants to
do it right.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
For the fun of it? Again, the fun of it,
for the power.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
His power equals power. Man.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I mean, that is an epic line. And that's really
literal and figurative, you know, you.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Know, and so and and we kind of see and
we kind of see the whole dynamic of I mean,
because even all things being equal, this group that the
Nagan is with is really honestly no worse than the

(54:21):
Babylonians are. Yeah, truthfully.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
I mean maybe they're all kind of bad, right.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
You know, I mean maybe not, you know, like the Bricks,
those people there seem like they're pretty decent people. But again,
power equals power, and and the baby, you know, the
core Babylonian group is pretty gleeful about them, you know,
throwing their weight around and making people do what they want, right.
I mean when they hung that guy, did you see
the smile on the woman's face? Yeah, I mean she

(54:52):
was enjoying the show.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
That lady is psychotic, that character is psychotic, Like, what
is going on there?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah? You know?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
So?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Yeah, I mean it was, I really did. I liked
the episode. I thought it was a good I thought
it was a good set up episode for the rest
of the season.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, I think so too. Look again, I'm sorry, y'all.
Look deaf frikin. Okay, if you can't see that hair
under that thing, that looks awful, that's awful, Like I
cannot anyway.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Just put your hand up over her face when she
comes on going forward, just just listen to her words
and put a hand over her face.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Okay, I want to do that, girl like that? Come
on now, Jesus, Oh god, look, I.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Look, I gotta have something to pick on, and they
made it so easy for me to zero in on that.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
It was so easy.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah, there's another hairstyle that you went after for a
while there. I think it was I don't remember which,
one of the one of the kids.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Oh my god, you're.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Hateful about that one too.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I feel away.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Don't be having these women on this TV looking crazy.
Come on, now, we have the apocalypse, but you can
braid some hair down or something, don't come on.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Well, she seems pretty content with her hair, living its
own life.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yes she is, and she acting more crazy too. She
seems like she's that character is missing a couple of screws.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Well, and in as big as it is, it gives
her like an extra three inches of height.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, because the.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Worse space you take up, you know, the more powerful
you're supposed to be. I mean, that's like it's like
three extra inches of power right there.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
I'm trying here, I really trying.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I know. Look, I will probably move on from it,
maybe not, I don't know how many. Maybe we should
do shots every time I bring up this lady's hair.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I'm not sure anyone can handle that. Maybe we can
put a hat on her, I don't know. Maybe the
next episode should be wearing a hat. You know, we
can hope.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
More often than not, please have the hat on. I
don't know, but we'll see, we'll see. Maybe there'll be
other things, would be a look at of it been her?
I don't know, Oh jeez.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
I did. I will say this too, watching Meagan in
the sitting there the confessional and he's just like, I
just wantn't be left alone. Yeah, and the guy comes
in forgiving father for I have sinned and sin and sin,
and Nigan's like crap.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Oh yeah, I mean they definitely got the funny moments
going on, you know, a witty moments going on, so.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
And and again. Megan is a is an excellent back
and Niga when he was bad, he had these moments.
He had a it was a twisted sense of humor.
But even as bad Meagan, ye know, he would say
or do things that were amusing M and H. And

(58:24):
now you know, we've got I think it's for me.
I think it's maybe worse than you. It's gonna be
interesting to see where Megan goes on this particular path.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yeah, I agree, that's gonna be interesting to watch. I think,
you know, and I never thought i'd say this, but
you know, I do like the actor. I think, you know,
Nigan's character, Jeffrey Dean Morgan is probably the best thing
on this show right now, because the everything else is
just it's fine, you know, but he's the thing to watch.

(58:57):
You know, his scenes are the ones to watch right now.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Yeah, he does very much command a presence.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Yeah, So I don't know. We'll see if everyone else
can keep up. You know, I'm with you. Yeah, So
that's all I have to say about that. What about you?
Do you have anything else you think?

Speaker 3 (59:14):
No, I think we've covered all the highlights.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Again.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
There was a there's quite a bit going on, but
it was all kind of focused in one direction, right
And I think they did a great setup. This is
a as long they can stick to landing. This was
a good launch episode.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Yeah. Now we just got to get through seven more episodes.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Like I actually feel really hopeful right now, and we've
been here before where we felt, oh, this is gonna
be good and then his shit just falls apart, right,
So we'll see if they can carry it.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
They definitely got out of the gate on the right foot.
So yeah, And I.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Will say, I mean the first season of Dead City
was not I mean compare especially compared to where they
had gone with some of the other spinoffs. I thought
it was a it was a solid show. I mean,
was it you know, excellence and broadcasting? Probably not, but
it was a solid show. Yeah, And you know, as

(01:00:15):
long as they can maintain that and build off of that,
I think I think this is going to be a
good season.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I'm not looking I mean, we all know at this
point it's not gonna We're not going to get Oscar
winning performances here or anything, guys. But a good lodge,
a good show without a lot of plot holes is
really the what I'm looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
I know that would be so excellent if we cannot
just point out every fifty things per episode, like we
have a list of laundry list. Every time we come
into a review, we're like, Okay, what about this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
That's dumb, that's dumb. Let's just not do that this season.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
You know, hopefully at this point, the worst thing that's
going to happen is her hair.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Yeah, please please let that be the worst. I would
love that. I would love that for the show, and
I would love that for myself.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Yeah, and it even and I will say, it was
such a solid you know, launching point. Really I didn't
think and I didn't and again I didn't go back
and watch any last season, but between the the pre
you know, the previous from last or the review from
last year and then launching off, I think they did

(01:01:28):
a good, good, solid job of getting you put right
back in that world. Again right, So, and even even
though they've been gone for a while, it didn't feel
you know, I thought it was kind of easy to
slip back into.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
But that was the difficulties.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yeah, it was easy. Okay, good stuff. So I think
we're done.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
I think we're done.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
So thank you to everyone who listened live. We appreciate
you for dropping in. You know you can like and
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Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
So we are so entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
We are entertaining. So anyway, that's it for today. You
guys will see you next time. Take care of yourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Bye bye,

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