Below

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This week, Captain and Wilson hop aboard the USS Tiger Shark as they discuss the 2002 horror, "Below," directed by David Twohy. It stars Bruce Greenwood, Matthew Davis, Olivia Williams, Holt McCallany, Scott Foley, and Zach Galifianakis.

The film discussion begins around 16:30.

Episode Transcript

Captain (00:17):
How are we?

Wilson (00:19):
Uh yeah, we're here.

Captain (00:20):
The vibe.

Wilson (00:21):
The vibe is right.
Have a drink.

Captain (00:24):
I do have a drink.
I'm drinking a Corona premiere.

Wilson (00:28):
I'm drinking a Kona premiere.
No.
Um we were at uh I was thinkingabout texting you, but then I
was like, this means nothing.

Captain (00:38):
Um I love your cat background actor, by the way,
right now.
Sorry.

Wilson (00:42):
Uh yeah, he's I don't know what he's doing.
Um we were at a family functionlast weekend, and you know, it
was outdoors, the weather wasbeautiful.
I opened up the cooler outside,filled with Kona, and I was
like.
I've I had never I just I Idon't really see Kona in the
wild.

Captain (01:02):
Peaked.

Wilson (01:03):
Yeah, to open that cooler and see that, I was like,
uh yes.

Captain (01:08):
It's like um you see that meme that's like smells
like day drinking?
It's like that like blissspace, yeah.

Wilson (01:15):
Oh yep, yep.
Yeah.
So we're doing good.
Doing good.

Captain (01:21):
Does did were you were Konas acquired because of you,
or just generally people like uhit wasn't because of me,
because it was like family wedon't see super often.
Oh.

Wilson (01:32):
So I don't know how they they came across it, and I
don't publicize that I like co-I mean I don't I don't just
inject it in a conversation,even though I bring it up on the
podcast all the time.
Um it very rarely comes up atany other time, but uh yeah.

Captain (01:48):
Well now that I feel like now that I've been on
vacation with uh Jay's family, Ifeel like everybody anytime
they find anything blueberry,they're gonna be like, oh, we
have to get captain.
We have to get captain this.
Um but I mean I did save theday a little because everybody
was drinking the Nantuckets bythe end.
So uh Um, okay.

(02:13):
Um I have two things in here.
One of them's really random,like super random.
I don't know if you hadanything you wanted to talk
about.

Wilson (02:22):
Um I don't think so.

Captain (02:25):
Okay, so this first one is not even related to
anything, but um I it's gonnasound so weird.
Okay, so like for my job, youhave to make a disaster plan,
like what you would do in caseof emergency, right?

Wilson (02:41):
Okay, yeah.

Captain (02:42):
Um, and like I I teach other people on like getting
certified in this field, andlike they talk about one of the
things you have to learn aboutis a disaster plan, right?
Okay, whatever.
Um, okay.
One of the things that theymention is that you should make
a disaster plan for things thatwould most likely affect your
building, but like you're notgonna make a disaster plan for

(03:03):
everything, right?
Like if you're nowhere near theocean, you're not gonna plan
for like tsunamis or likemonsoons or whatever.
Okay, um, and I was lookinginto like uh just things like
that.
Okay, I didn't know this, butlike, so like we know
earthquakes are caused bytectonic plates, right?

Wilson (03:22):
Sure, yeah.

Captain (03:23):
But there's the main center of the tectonic plate is
called the shield.
And it's like made of like allthese like um you know high
grade rocks that uh formtectonically stable areas, which
I just think is fun.
But essentially like the centerof all the tectonic plates,
like those areas like basicallynever have earthquakes.

(03:45):
Um Canada, most of Canada islike all on a shield, so nice
for them.

Wilson (03:52):
Okay, so you said the shield is like the middle of a
plate.

Captain (03:55):
The middle of the plate, basically.
So like they just never haveearthquakes.
Because like, you know, we'velike I've always lived somewhere
along the coast where like, youknow, the chance for
earthquakes slim, but it's notlike we won't have them.
Like we had that one in collegethat we all felt, and I mean I
we've had a f one here that Ifelt.
Um obviously California like isexactly on the edge of a plate,

(04:17):
so like sucks for that.
Uh that area.
Um, but yeah, there's like ahuge plate that's most of
Canada, um, a large chunk ofSouth America is on a plate, um,
a large chunk of Africa's likeon a on a shield.
It's called a shield, sorry.
Um, so yeah, I just thoughtthat was interesting.

(04:38):
Cause like I don't know whatthat's like to like I mean,
imagine I I don't know.
It's not that I was liketerrified of earthquakes or
anything, but like to be in anarea where you know that's never
even a possibility is like kindof interesting to think about.

Wilson (04:50):
Yeah.
And I um like I get the conceptof the of tectonic plates, but
I've never been able to likevisualize them really well.
Like I know they say they likemove around, but I'm like, I
just Oh really?
I need to see like a asemi-realistic graphic.
Because I've seen like cartoondrawings, and I'm like, I mean
like I get it, but at the sametime, I don't know.

Captain (05:13):
Yeah, I don't know.
I've always imagined it in myhead as like, yeah, these like
metalish, rockish, giant likeslabs under the earth and they
form a sphere, and like but theedges of them sometimes just
rock into each other, andthey're so deep that like that
little rocking that they do, itjust you know is big on the

(05:33):
surface.

Wilson (05:34):
That's crazy.

Captain (05:37):
Now, how scientists even figured out that we had
plates, I have no fucking idea.
Like, I don't even know how youwould come to that conclusion
that that's what's happening.

Wilson (05:46):
I mean, I think it was like uh I mean I don't I guess I
don't know whenever that liketheory or the not theory now,
but you know, when that came tobe.
But I imagine maybe around thetime that they got the um
whatever that I don't know whatthat's called, but the thing
where like the I know they useit-I don't know what you're
saying.
I know they use it in tremors.
They like put a thing in theground and it's like uh a

(06:08):
seismograph, but like somethingthat can like kind of map.
I don't I guess the seismographcan't actually map the ground,
but something that can like lookinto the earth and kind of map
things.
Maybe I don't I don't fuckingknow.
I'm not a geologist.
Um when I saw this link inthere, I thought you were gonna
talk about the show The Shield.

Captain (06:28):
I I figured because I feel like that's would be the
most real uh related to ourpodcast than the other thing,
but no.

Wilson (06:38):
No.

Captain (06:39):
Um I keep trying to like look into Tectonic Plates,
but I'm accidentally clicking onthe film Tectonic Plates, um,
which is Is it a documentary oris just like a fiction just
straight up called TectonicPlates?
Um it is a oh my god,Wikipedia's trying to get money
out of me.
Um it is a Canadian film.
I don't know, it saysindependent film.

Wilson (07:00):
You mean the people that are on a shield created a movie
about tectonic plates andearthquakes?
What you said Canada's on ashield.

Captain (07:09):
Oh, that's funny.
Um That's funny.
Um I don't think this hasanything to do with earthquakes.
It has nothing to do withearthquakes.
I don't know why it's calledthat.
It says this girl disappearsand then or her lover disappears
and then she kills herself.

Wilson (07:29):
Are they trying to say that the girl and her lover are
like two tectonic plates?

Captain (07:34):
Just like Yeah.
Well, that's exactly right.

Wilson (07:38):
They split and I don't know.
Who knows?

Captain (07:42):
Who the F knows?
Um oh the lithosphere.
Man, I haven't heard that aboutthat in forever.

Wilson (07:51):
Good old lithosphere.

Captain (07:56):
Um, I this reminds me I'm sorry, this is so random.
This reminds me of a seventhgrade science project that we
had to do to um when we learnedabout all of the layers of the
earth and the tectonic plates.

Wilson (08:09):
Uh-huh.

Captain (08:10):
Um, because we had to make our own like cross section
of the earth with edible food.
Um, and then we ate them alllike in class.
Like everybody brought one in.
But you had to make the layerslike the same consistency.
So like if it was a moltenlayer, you had to make it out of
something like goopy, and thenif it was like a harder layer,
you had to make that out ofsomething like harder.

(08:31):
Yeah.
So like um, yeah, I remember wedid that, and some of them were
really nasty.
Like, it would be like mushtogether fruit roll-ups as like
the outside layer, and then likeHershey's chocolate was like
the molten layer.
Like, I mean, we were like what11-year-old no 12 something
year old kids that were justlike making a mess, but um I

(08:52):
just I don't know, I stillremember that to this day for
some reason.

Wilson (08:55):
I feel like a crunch wrap supreme would be a good
like earth because there's likethat tostada inside that would
be like the plates, and you gotyour mushy stuff in there.
What did you do?

Captain (09:06):
I don't even remember.

Wilson (09:07):
I remember I was the fruit roll-up kid.

Captain (09:10):
No, I I remember having a really hard time figuring out
what I wanted to do for themolten layer because like there
weren't a lot of options forlike what's you know liquid, but
not like you know, but likeviscous.
I can't remember what I chose.
But like, yeah, there's notthat many options like Hershey

(09:30):
syrup or honey.
Yeah, maple Yeah, maple syrup,yeah.
I don't know, something likethat.

Wilson (09:39):
But curdled milk.

Captain (09:46):
F for the project, but for other reasons.
Um anyway, okay.
The other thing I really dowant to talk about is I did
finally get to see Good Boy, themovie.

Wilson (09:56):
Ooh, okay, how was it?

Captain (09:57):
It was very cute, it was good.
Um obviously I looked up andmake sure the dog doesn't die,
right?
Before we watched it.
Um but yeah, the I mean it's anindependent film, so this guy
um basically filmed his dog, um,and it took three years to make
this movie, right?
Because his dog is not anactor.
At the end of the movie, theyhave a um little like um, you

(10:20):
know, debrief from the director.
Um, so he talks about it.
Um but yeah, they they do areally good job of making the
dog seem very emotive, like withthe um like with the shading
that they do and the lighting umand the music.
Um so like the dog seems veryemotive.
Um but the story is prettygood.

(10:41):
Like I mean, obviously, likeit's a dog actor is your main
point of contact con contact.
So like um, you know, it itcould be more emotive if it was
a human that could talk, but fora dog actor, like it was really
it was really good.
Like I gave it four stars.
Um yeah, they did a good job ofmaking creepy things.

(11:06):
Um they got me with a jumpscare.
Um I would recommend.
I'll probably watch it.

Wilson (11:11):
I just kind of forgot it was coming out.

Captain (11:13):
Yeah, they did a good job of showing it from a dog's
perspective, where it's like,yeah, the world's just a very
different way, you understandit, because it's all just like
yeah, it's there's just theperspective is very different.
Um But yeah, at the end they dothis little like yeah, debrief
where he talks about like he heha he like repeats himself over
and over.
He was like, I cannot um makethis clear enough, but like you

(11:35):
know, Indy, his dog, is like notan actor.
So like they literally filmthis slowly over the course of
three years in their own house,like him and his wife.
Yeah.
Um yeah, Shudder took it onbecause like Shudder's in the in
the opening uh productionpeople.
Um but it I mean, yeah,otherwise it's it's a pretty
independent film.

Wilson (11:54):
Um that's that's impressive.

Captain (11:56):
Yeah, the the they like even have the effects in the
movie that are good.
Like I'm I'm not mad about themat all, so I I would definitely
recommend for sure.

Wilson (12:07):
Okay.

Captain (12:08):
Um yeah, but it's a very different concept.
Like I don't think you'd everever have seen a movie like
this.
All from a dog's perspective,and it's like a horror movie.
So uh yeah.

Wilson (12:20):
Did you ever watch um that movie Presence, which I
think is from the ghostperspective or the spirits
perspective?

Captain (12:29):
Oh, that sounds familiar.

Wilson (12:31):
I haven't seen it, but that reminded me of it.

Captain (12:36):
Is this newer?

Wilson (12:37):
I think it came out last year, yeah.

Captain (12:40):
Okay, I don't think I've seen this.

Wilson (12:42):
I thought it looked good.
I just never got around to it.

Captain (12:45):
Yeah, the critic score is really good.
The audience score is okay.
I mean, it's in the 50s, butthe critic scores, yeah.
Um shit.
That's another one for theLeas.
Um no, I I have not seen that.
I mean, the Sixth Sense is kindof from the ghost perspective.

Wilson (13:06):
Well, yeah, I guess technically, yes.

Captain (13:11):
I mean, that's the first thing I think of when you
say that.

Wilson (13:14):
Well, yeah, but like you don't find that out until the
very end.

Captain (13:17):
Well, yeah.
I'm adding this to my watchlist.

Wilson (13:20):
That does remind me, I kind of want to rewatch the
sixth sense.

Captain (13:23):
Okay, we did that for the podcast.
Yeah, like forever ago.

Wilson (13:28):
Years and years.

Captain (13:30):
That was in the top 10 or top 20 or something, right?

Wilson (13:33):
Probably.
Um Do you want me to look?

Captain (13:36):
Ah, it's fine.
Um yeah, but that's that's oh,I did see um one other movie.
I saw The Long Walk.

Wilson (13:47):
How was that?

Captain (13:48):
Um, it was alright.

Wilson (13:50):
Okay.
Cause I was deciding I was likekinda wanted to see it because
I heard it was good, but I waslike, do I want to read it?

Captain (13:56):
It's a good story, but it's exactly kind of how you
would think it would end.
Like it doesn't there's no likeI'm watching and I know what's
gonna happen, so like I'm notreally I'm not like you know, on
the edge of my seat.
Like it's just like I'm I'm onthis journey that I know how
it's gonna end, and I'm justkinda watching it happen.

(14:17):
Um and then we we did see umone bottle battle at a one
battle after another, too.

Wilson (14:23):
Oh yeah, we saw that that was really good.

Captain (14:25):
Yeah, it was good.
Um yeah.
I think Leonardo DiCaprio doessuch a good job of playing like
um I don't know, like notholding it together like older
male.
Like I've seen him do that rolea lot of times now.

Wilson (14:43):
Like and I'm not tired of it yet.

Captain (14:45):
Yeah, but I mean, even starting back at like Wolf of
Wall Street, which was like whatmore than 10 years ago, I feel
like since then I've been like,oh, he loves this role of like
not organized or like in charge,but doing lots of things.
Um I don't think I have anymovies that I'm like on the

(15:08):
horizon of going to see.

Wilson (15:13):
Yeah, I don't think we have anything but plan.
Yeah, no, not yet.
I'll have to work on that.

Captain (15:24):
Yeah, I know.
I'm like, I I wanna use my ohmy gosh.
They're playing trick-or-treatin theaters.

Wilson (15:34):
I think um man, if if I thought about this more in
advance, I think we should haveslipped in like an extra episode
of like let's revisit yearslater.

Captain (15:48):
I kind of wanted to make that for the two oh, I
should have done that for thetwo hundredth episode.

Wilson (15:55):
Hmm.
Okay.

Captain (15:56):
Yeah, I was like I could wiggle it around.

Wilson (15:58):
We could either do that for 200 or when we hit like 10
years, 10 year anniversary.

Captain (16:03):
I mean Oh, which one will be first?

Wilson (16:06):
What do we have right now?

Captain (16:07):
Ten years would be for uh we have 20 episodes to go.
It would be like well no, wehave more than we have more than
that.
We have oh yeah, sorry, 20.
I'm stupid.
I am stupid and I'm dumb.
Jesus.

Wilson (16:24):
Alright.
Well, do we wanna Yeah?

Captain (16:27):
Do we wanna do we wanna dive?

Wilson (16:29):
You wanna get in there?

Captain (16:31):
Oh, we're diving.

Wilson (16:33):
Alright.
Uh welcome to the 180th episodeof the Red Run podcast, where
we review horror movies whileenjoying an adult beverage or
two.

Captain (16:43):
And I'm Captain.

Wilson (16:44):
And I'm Wilson.
Alright, and everyone, getready.
I'm gonna put my hat on here.

Captain (16:49):
Oh my gosh.
What is that?

Wilson (16:53):
We're gonna dive.
This is my uh this is my uh uhNostromo hat from Alien.

Captain (17:02):
So different with that hat on.
It's like kind of crazy.
Uh it really like punches themustache like out.

Wilson (17:12):
It's a it's a mustache day.
Uh and it feels pretty fittingfor a an underwater submarine
movie.

Captain (17:21):
Trying to do like a horn.

Wilson (17:24):
Uh so this week we're gonna dive right into the 2002
submarine supernatural horrorfilm Below.

Captain (17:31):
Um loving these uh puns.

Wilson (17:34):
Puns, yep, yep.
Uh so this was um directed byDavid Tohey.
Uh he's most notably known forthe Chronicles of Riddick.
I didn't watch those.
Did you see any of those?

Captain (17:48):
Uh no.
Couldn't even tell you whatthey're about, to be honest.

Wilson (17:51):
He wrote Critters 2.
I don't remember what happensin that one.
Claim to Fame.
A uh and Pitch Black.
I don't think I've seen that.
Doesn't sound familiar.

Captain (18:02):
The writer of this movie is m way more famous.

Wilson (18:04):
Oh, yeah.
Darren Aronofsky.
Um This was so this was hisfeature film that he wrote.
This is like the is that whatyou're showing?

Captain (18:15):
The debut The Debut, yeah.

Wilson (18:17):
Okay.
Um so he wrote um he wrote thisfilm, um, but you'll know him
from you know, Pi, um Rec Roomfor a Dream, Mother, um and The
Whale.

Captain (18:30):
Oh, yeah, I still haven't seen The Whale.

Wilson (18:32):
I really like The Whale.

Captain (18:33):
Um I mean, I heard it was good, yeah.

Wilson (18:36):
Some people did not.
Uh Mother, I felt like waspolarizing.
I remember I watched it when itcame out.
I did not know it washappening.

Captain (18:43):
I didn't know it was happening either.
And I was like, this is wellnot what I thought it was gonna
be.

Wilson (18:48):
Yeah, absolutely not.
I think I would like to revisitit now that I've like seen more
movies and maybe can appreciateit more.

Captain (18:56):
I have not seen Pi, but I have yeah, this is a reminds
me of a different movie Iwatched called Um Jacob Sladder,
about like a really goodmathematician that psychological
thriller stuff.
Hmm, okay this is a differentmathematician who does other
psychological stuff, I think.
Yeah, it's a sci-fi?

(19:17):
Yeah, thriller sci-fi is whatit says.

Wilson (19:22):
Oh, it's like that pie.

Captain (19:25):
Yeah, not like yum yum pie.

Wilson (19:28):
Well, I know there's like life of pie, and I don't
think that's related to likepie.

Captain (19:33):
What is that one?

Wilson (19:34):
Uh isn't there like a kid in a boat, and there's like
a tiger?
Tiger, yeah.
I never saw it.

Captain (19:42):
Yeah, but I don't know why it's called that.
Whatever.
This is so off.

Wilson (19:47):
Look, we're gonna move so much cast.
Yeah.

Captain (19:50):
The cast list of numbers of names is so crazy.
So we gotta get in there.

Wilson (19:55):
Okay.
So first we have uh MatthewDavis who plays Ensign Douglas
Odell.
Um he was in is known forLegally Blonde.
That's why he looked familiar.

Captain (20:04):
Okay, he's Warner.

Wilson (20:06):
Yeah, the boyfriend to uh uh L.
Um he was in the show Whatabout Brian?
Didn't watch that.
Uh he was also known forvampire diaries.

Captain (20:16):
Mm-hmm.
He but I mostly know him asWarren from Legally Blonde.

Wilson (20:21):
Huntington the third.
Uh then we have BruceGreenwood.
Um it was uh interestingbecause the night I watched this
movie, which was last night,um, I restarted the house
followed the House of Usher,which he is also in.
So it was just like a veryBruce Greenwood night.
Um so he was uh I guess he'splayed the president of it uh

(20:46):
three times.

Captain (20:48):
Yeah, in three different like movies or shows.
Yeah.
He's like known for doing thepresident as his role.

Wilson (20:54):
Um he played Christopher Pike in the first uh Star Trek
movie that JJ Abrams did.
Um he's in National Treasure,The Kingsman, the Golden Circle.
Um he's in Doctor Sleep, andlike I said, he was in the House
of the Fall of Usher.
The fall of the House of Wait.

Captain (21:15):
The Fall of the House of Usher, yeah.

Wilson (21:17):
Yeah, I don't know why all the ofs just like threw me
off.

Captain (21:21):
Um it's very Poe.
Poe Not by Poe.

Wilson (21:27):
Exactly.
Uh then we have Olivia Williamswho plays Claire.
Um speaking of the Sixth Sense,she was in the Sixth Sense.
Um The Counterpart.
Um she was in The Crown playinguh Camilla.

Captain (21:43):
Yeah, that's where I mostly know her from is The
Crown.

Wilson (21:47):
And she was in uh the TV show Dune Prophecy.
I haven't watched that yet.

Captain (21:53):
I haven't either.
Tula.

Wilson (21:56):
Tula.
Um all right, then we have HoltMcEl McLeaney.
I don't know.

Captain (22:01):
McLain McCalaney, yeah.

Wilson (22:04):
Yeah, um, I recognize him most from Mindhunter.
So he was a he was a young boyin this movie.

Captain (22:10):
Um, yeah, his role in Mindhunters is yeah, he's like
the the wiser, older dude.
Yeah.

Wilson (22:16):
Yeah.
Um he was in Lights Out.
You said not that one, so notthe not the one we did.

Captain (22:22):
Yeah, something else called Lights Out.

Wilson (22:24):
Um Fight Club, Three Kings, Shot Caller, Wrath of
Man, Nightmare Alley, the IronClaw.
I did see the Iron Claw.
That was really good.

Captain (22:33):
Oh, yeah?

Wilson (22:34):
I like that.

Captain (22:34):
I watched the um there was that TV show called Oh, I
don't know.

Wilson (22:40):
Iron Fist.
Oh.
Sorry.
Nope.

Captain (22:44):
Holl Hollywood monsters or something.
Um The Iron Claw's about thatwrestling family, right?

Wilson (22:50):
Yeah.

Captain (22:51):
Yeah.
The in that that sh um show, Ithink it's on HBO, they had an
episode about it.
So I watched the episode andthey had the like the actual
family members themselves beinginterviewed.
Oh.
Um, and that episode was good,but I I never watched the movie.
No.

Wilson (23:04):
Yeah.

Captain (23:04):
I don't like care about wrestling at all, and I found
in the movies it's still reallyI I mean the story sounds I
mean, the story is reallycompelling, so I get it.

Wilson (23:13):
Super sad.
Um then we have Scott Foley whoplays Lieutenant Junior Grade
Steven.
Um he was in the unit, Scrubs,Felicity, Scandal, um, if you
love Scream 3, he played Roman.
Um, he guest starred on Grey'sAnatomy like everyone else.

(23:36):
Oh, I was like, why does helook so familiar?
Dude, I don't think I saw himthat young before.

Captain (23:42):
Scott Foley is like that face that you see in so
many things that you're like,oh, it's that guy.
But you like don't know hisname, but I his face is like,
yeah, very recognizable.
I I think I mostly know himfrom I mean, I've watched
Scrubs, I watched Scandal,Scream 3, like Grace Anatomy, I
watched all those things, so butI feel like it's probably

(24:05):
Scandal that I know him from themost, because I like was diving
deep into that.
But you know, I did watch allof Scrubs too.
I don't know, it's one ofthose, but um, yeah, very
recognizable.
And probably well, probably thesecond most famous person after
the next person you re you thelast guy on the cast list.

Wilson (24:27):
Oh yeah, this one caught me off guard.
This is like a a baby ZachGalfinakis.

Captain (24:32):
I didn't recognize him at first.

Wilson (24:34):
I was like, I know those eyes and that voice.
The voice.
But he didn't have the hedidn't have the beard.
Um, and it threw me off.
But yeah.
So he's in here.

Captain (24:45):
Yeah, he has like a beard, but the facial hair is
not what you remember from Zach.
Like, so it yeah, it justdoesn't look like him at first,
yeah.

Wilson (24:53):
Yeah.
Um, so obviously, you know fromHangover, I feel like he's been
just in like a guest star inseveral things.
I never watched his showBaskets.

Captain (25:04):
I did for a little bit.
It was alright.
Okay, I mean it would it'salright.
It's definitely his humor, soit's a little like off, but it
was good.
I mean, he's mostly I thinkknown for that between two
ferns.

Wilson (25:17):
Which is a delightful like it's pretty good.

Captain (25:22):
If you get people that are down to get like trolled, uh
yeah, it's good.

Wilson (25:26):
Yeah, and I love that like also the people he trolls,
like there's room for them totroll him back.

Captain (25:32):
Oh, a hundred percent.
Yeah.

Wilson (25:34):
Yeah.
Like I think the one with likeHillary Clinton and then Obama,
it's just like fun, these likevery political figures, and
they're just like ripping eachother apart.

Captain (25:45):
I can't I don't know if I have one that I picked out
that I really like, but usuallyI enjoy whatever clips I see.

Wilson (25:51):
I think the favorite I've seen, there's one where
he's uh interviewing CharlizeTheron, um, Theron.
It's what I forget what theysay, but it's like I think the
best interaction I've seen onthat show.

Captain (26:04):
I think there was one, I I want to say it was like
Bradley Cooper, maybe.
I don't know.
When when Zach Alpinakis sayssomething to them and it makes
them it makes the person he'ssaying to like crack up and it's
like at their expense.
I I really like those ones.
Um so I think it might havebeen Bradley Cooper that I'm
thinking of, but yeah.

Wilson (26:24):
Well, look up the later look up the Charleese one.

Captain (26:28):
Okay.

Wilson (26:29):
Hopefully it's still funny.
I don't know.
Okay.
Uh alright.

Captain (26:33):
Well, how about we uh pop into the Yeah, so we just
read a bunch of names, but yeah,most of these are men that are
are working on a submarine, andthen there's the lady,
obviously.
But like that's yeah.
The plot's a littlecomplicated.
So like just to m overview menon a sub in the war in 1943.

Wilson (26:54):
Yes.
And the premise when I firstread it, I was like, oh, this
looks like you know, it'll bereally interesting.
Cause like, you know, in asubmarine, but make it scary.
Because I mean, I don't thinkI've seen I've seen like war
movies with submarines, but notlike a like a scary war movie,
yeah.
Yeah.
Um but I have differingopinions.

(27:17):
Well I'll see.
Damn.
Um so basically, uh it themovie opens with like there's a
helicopter, they see some likepeople in the water that need
help, and they call out to anearby submarine to go help
them, and it's the USS TigerShark.

Captain (27:36):
Yeah, that's kind of a badass name.
But yeah.

Wilson (27:38):
Yeah.
Um they don't really want to goturnaround to uh a day behind
them.
Yeah.
Uh but anyway, they go back,they find these three British
survivors, and they find outit's like a hospital ship that
had just been torpedoed.
Um, one of them is a a nurse,uh the the woman, um Claire.

(28:00):
Claire, yeah.
Um and then immediately, like,it's kind of a gross scene.
I mean, it's like it's all menon this this submarine, and just
I mean, maybe it's funny, maybeit's gross, I'm not sure, but
they're just like gossiping,like uh you just see them like
running through the ch the ship,passing on each person, like,

(28:20):
hey, there's a girl on board.
Or like they pick differentways of this.
No, they pick all sorts of uhlike analogies and a bird, a
frilly or something, a filly.

Captain (28:31):
I was like, can you shut the fuck up?

Wilson (28:33):
Yeah.

Captain (28:34):
Um, yes, they were very excited that a woman saw that.
I dude, if I was the woman thatgot forced to be on this ship,
I'd be just just just kill me.
I I'm actually just gonna letmyself out.
I'm not gonna I I would not beable to deal with that.
Like luckily she had the umOdell that was supposed to be
kind of her like uh bodyguardslash like um prison guard.

Wilson (28:54):
Like, so he kind of was keeping other people at bay, but
yeah, that ensign was kind oflike a good guy, or like you get
the impression he means well.

Captain (29:03):
Yeah.

Wilson (29:04):
Um so like So one of one of them's a nurse.

Captain (29:07):
Sorry, one of them's a nurse.
I don't remember what the otherguy is, if he was also or he
was like more on the shipsteering, and then one of them's
a wounded patient.

Wilson (29:16):
Yeah, he's pretty crispy.

Captain (29:17):
Yeah.

Wilson (29:19):
Um and I think this is where things start to go a
little sideways.
Like, first, there's like youget the hint idea that the the
captain, um, Bryce, uh, he'slike he's stepping in for the
captain.
Yeah.
And you're like, who's thisother guy I see in these
pictures?

(29:39):
Um so you're kind of wonderingwhat happened to him.

Captain (29:42):
Yeah, he's the lieutenant, yeah.

Wilson (29:44):
Yeah.
Um and then I think around thistime they also find out that
the wounded guy is actually um aGerman a German, I think.
Yeah, that they found and theywere caring for him on the
hospital ship.

Captain (29:58):
Yeah, so the reason.
The reason why they evenstarted like m digging more is
because that there's at onepoint where like a an enemy ship
is going by and their ship hasto stay silent.
So like everything in theship's being because if they
pick up any noise, it'll be onthe radar.
Um and so everybody in theship's like staying silent, and
then like suddenly a recordplayer starts going off.
Um and it's playing like likewhatever that song is, something

(30:22):
that has the title of theartist on there, like Goodman or
something.
Um but it's like a very loudsong, so like they run down to
the record player and likeimmediately get it to turn off.
But um they they were like, youknow, they think that there's
somebody sabotaging because likethey put the everybody on the
ship in like danger with thatrecord player turning on
suddenly.

Wilson (30:43):
Yeah.
And the captain comes in and hehe just shoots the guy.

Captain (30:49):
Yeah, they they find out that his clothing has like,
you know, made in Germanywritten on it, and Claire is
like, don't shoot him, he's mypatient.
I've been carrying, you know,don't hurt him.
And yeah, he he was uh he saidsomething like hello, like hi
comrade, or something that, youknow, seemed sinister, like sa I

(31:09):
don't know.
Um, but oh, and he grabs hisknife, that German patient.

Wilson (31:14):
Um, that is why he was about to get shot.
Because I think the German guywas actually trying to maybe
defend himself getting ready tobecause he clearly saw the
captain had a gun already.

Captain (31:23):
Yeah, and the captain just shoots him, yeah.

Wilson (31:25):
Yeah, because I mean he does also dart for the knife, so
it's like yeah.
Uh a tricky situation.
Um and so the nurse, likearound this time, she's like
starting to poke around andshe's she's really wondering
like something seems off.
Like this captain is missingand they're being kind of dodgy
about like what happened.

(31:47):
Um I think around this timethey say that the captain had
gone out um and tried to getlike a scrap from like a ship or
something as a memento.
As a memento.

Captain (31:58):
Yeah, it was from it was from an enemy ship that he
shot down, and he that's whatthey were told.
Um, yeah.
So yeah, they also um shortlyafter this, like they also like
God, they're so rude on thisboat, and I get it, that like
they don't have how don't theyhaven't had entertainment for
like two months that they'vebeen on this boat or whatever,

(32:19):
but they like prank Claire byputting the dead body in her
room.

Wilson (32:24):
Um these little shits.

Captain (32:26):
Now, she swears that she hears the body speaking to
her.
I don't remember what it says,but I think it says like get off
the ship before like saveyourself.

Wilson (32:35):
Where are you gonna go?

Captain (32:36):
Um so like she's freaked out by hearing it's
hearing a voice talking to her,but she's even more freaked out
finding out that it was the deadbody in the bunk below her.
Because like they wrapped it uplike in a somewhat of a
respectful way.
And somebody unwrapped it,threw it in the bunk, and then
like was trying to get her to befreaked out.
Um But yeah, now like we havethis record player that turned

(32:57):
on suddenly, and this body thatshe swears was speaking to her.
So like things are gettingspooky.

Wilson (33:04):
Yes, and around this time they notice that like um an
enemy destroyer ship is likenearby them, so they dive really
quick.
Um, and the enemy ship, I thinkI think well, you'd mentioned
this earlier, I think with thethe record player, like they're
trying to be really quietunderwater.

(33:25):
And so that record playerstarts and then um it drops
these like uh I guess kind oflike bombs, they're in barrels,
but it like they're gonna beable to do it.
Yeah, the anime ship.
Yeah.

Captain (33:40):
Submarine Warfare is so I mean it's just looks so
awful.

Wilson (33:43):
Yeah, yeah.
Uh I think it's after this thator maybe the next time, shortly
after this, the ship finds themagain and like damages their
hull, and they determine thatthey need to go outside and then
like fix a leak because they'releaking oil and it's the ship
can track them that way.

Captain (34:03):
Yeah, so they have to go to this like a weird capsized
area of the ship.
Um, and there's a couple menthat go in there, um, and
they're talking about winters,like while they're in this kind
of like spooky area that's like,I don't know.
Um, but we get more story thatthe men tried to save.
Um so the real story is thatwhen they shot down the German

(34:27):
ship, um, some of the otherhigh-ranking men, like the
skipper and the lieutenant, likewanted to save some of the
people that were still alive inthe water.
And then Winters apparentlyordered a gun to the top of the
ship and took um took it in hisown hands to like shoot
everybody that survived.
So that's the second story weget from Skipper that's a little
bit more in Er of Winters, thecaptain that we get in a little

(34:49):
bit more detail.
Um, but while they're tellingthat story, uh somebody dies, I
think, right?
They get like an image of thecaptain like spooking them and
then like fall and hit theirhead, I think.

Wilson (34:58):
Yeah, he's like he's super dead, and the rest of them
are really spooked.
So the other two I think theyleave them there and then they
just go back inside.

Captain (35:07):
Yeah, they go back inside.
They're asking what happened tothe guy, and and they're just
like they're not really givingan answer.
Um, but they did, I think, fixthe problem for the most part.
Um But everybody is freakedout.
Like something is spooky,something is weird, like the
ship seems haunted basically.
Um and everybody can tell.
Everybody that's on the ship,even Claire herself says

(35:27):
something along those lines.
Um yes.
And then I think they aredesperately trying to make their
way back to the US, but theyknow that they obviously some
people are like, there's no waywe're gonna make our way back to
the US.
Like we're damaged, and nowwe're low on um hydrogen, I
think, right?
They were like 13% hydrogen.

(35:48):
Because then they have to gofix that other area.

Wilson (35:51):
Um Yeah, but I think that wasn't the hydrogen too
high.

Captain (35:57):
Well, because when they fixed it, they like pumped it.

Wilson (36:01):
Oh.

Captain (36:02):
And it was supposed to be enclosed into that room, but
that guy opened the door when heshouldn't have.

Wilson (36:07):
Oh, yeah.

Captain (36:08):
Like an idiot.
Um so yeah, they had to fixsomething else, which is yeah,
something about the hydrogen.
I I'm I don't know anythingabout submarines.

Wilson (36:18):
And the whole room crispied.
Like it was like a flash burn,and everyone inside, like
everybody that was exposed toit.
It was a ton of the crew.

Captain (36:29):
Like it was basically the entire crew.
Like, besides like the fumingleads of the boat, like and
Claire, like basicallyeverybody, everybody else died
because it was supposed to belike enclosed in the one battery
room or something, but some guyopened the door at the exact
moment that it couldn't beopened because he was like, Hey,
we lost power.
Um, and then the guy that'swhatever he's doing with the

(36:52):
hydrogen was like, Close thefucking door, but it's too late.
Um, and they only realize thattheir crew's gone because they
can't contact anybody on theradio, so then they go looking
for them and realize everybody'sdead.

Wilson (37:04):
Yeah.
Um, so also around this timethe rudder's kind of broken,
it's like only pointing one way,so like they're the ship spun
itself around and was going thewrong direction.
And I think it kept goingdeeper and deeper.
Um, and then somewhere aroundhere, it's discovered that this
is like sort of the big twist ofthe movie, but they didn't at

(37:27):
the beginning of the movie, theydidn't sink a German ship, they
sunk the hospital the Britishhospital ship, and what had
happened, what what had happenedwas Um You know it's funny,
Claire realizes that because sheis looking she's nosy as hell.

Captain (37:43):
Yeah, which I'm not I mean, I'm same.

Wilson (37:46):
She knows something's going on.

Captain (37:48):
But yes, but she's as she's poking through all the
captain stuff and all theskipper stuff and all whatever,
but she realizes that the Germanboat that they thought they
shot down um looks almostidentical to her med her
hospital ship.
So they sunk her hospital shipaccidentally, um, which was an
English medical ship.
Um and she said, like somebodyor she was I can't remember if

(38:12):
she was talking to Odell orwhatever, but she says, like,
whoever mis-ID'd the ship wouldhave been in huge trouble.

Wilson (38:18):
Um Yeah, and we find out that was Bryce, the current
captain.

Captain (38:23):
Yeah, the lieutenant, the Winters captain, wanted to
save everybody after they shotit down and he realized they
were misided and they werespeaking English, he wanted to
save everybody.
But because Bryce uh mis-ID'dthe ship, he was trying to cover
his own ass.
So he was like, nope, all'sfair in war, and uh, we're just
gonna So they kill the they killWinters.

(38:45):
Yeah, they kill Winters, andthey obviously make sure all the
survivors don't all are arealso dead except these three
that made their way back ontheir ship.

Wilson (38:53):
Already up to this point, I mean it was like pretty
clear that Winters was hauntingthe ship, but now we know that
he is he was in the right andhe's trying to correct these
like bad actors.

Captain (39:05):
Yeah, I like the line.
So they go so Zach Aliphinakisum character is like really into
like reading poetry and likeShakespeare and like just books
in general.
So at one point, Claire towardsthe end, uh Claire and Odell go
to him and ask him, like, whatare we supposed to do about this
spirit?
Like, um, what does he callthem?
He calls them maledmaledictions, I think.
Yeah, yeah.

(39:26):
Um, but he basically says,like, what do you mean?
What are we supposed to do?
Like, a captain goes down withhis ship, like he wants like
Winters wants his ship, Teddy,is what he says.
That's like, oh shit, likeyou're kind of fucked.

Wilson (39:40):
Yeah.

Captain (39:41):
Um, yes.

Wilson (39:43):
So And like the ship.
Yeah, go ahead.

Captain (39:47):
Yeah, no, I was just gonna say, like, toward like the
basically the end of this movieis just Bryce just like fucking
losing it.
I mean, full crash out.

Wilson (39:53):
Oh yeah, like the ship's getting ice cold because
there's like not really anypower, there's no heat, the
ship's going deeper and deeper,everything is breaking.
Like they're gonna they needthey need to um surface to get
more air and charge thebatteries, but it's like not
really responding.
And then eventually it doessurface.
But this is after like mostlyeveryone's dead.

(40:16):
There's like five people alive.

Captain (40:19):
Yes, yep.
There, yeah, maybe less.

Wilson (40:22):
Yeah, so when they surface, there's like a ship
nearby and Claire, and I thinkshe tries to flag down the ship
and Bryce stops her, but he'slike he's like kind of on the
verge of uh like he still thinkshe can cover his tracks, but
eventually it's just he can't.

Captain (40:42):
Yeah, I mean, denial goes on for as long as it can,
and then yeah, and then he'slike, I'm just gonna sh like he
I think he thinks about shootingeverybody there, but he ends up
shooting himself.
I'm very confused at how heshot himself in the head twice.
If you saw that.

Wilson (41:00):
I didn't notice.

Captain (41:01):
I swear.
Because Jay was watching itwith me and he was like, Did he
just double tap himself?
Because that's literally whatit looks like.
Like he shot shoots himself inthe head twice.
I I don't I don't know if thatwas just a bad cut, but um yeah,
he just shoots himself.
And then um they don't have anylike flares or power to get
attention for the British shipthat's close by.

(41:22):
Um so I think it's I don't knowif it's Odell or Scott Foley's
character, but they just likemachine gun into the air to get
the ship's attack attention.
Um but they they do getrescued, they do get saved.

Wilson (41:37):
They do, and there's like a view like sunrising,
they're on the boat safe and seetheir submarine sink.

Captain (41:44):
Um the captain got his ship at the end.

Wilson (41:48):
He did.
I mean he killed his entirecrew, basically.
I mean But he like kinda l madesure the people that were
Mentwell lived.
Like the ensign.
Oh Dell, yeah.
And the the nurse that was notpart of the original incident,
so or at least not didn't try tokill him, so.

Captain (42:11):
Yeah, I didn't realize Zach Galifanax's character was
called Wally Weird Wally.
Or sorry.
His name is Wally, but he wewent by Weird Wally, which I
didn't know that.

Wilson (42:20):
Oh, I was gonna say Wally Weird Wally is like a long
Yeah, sorry.

Captain (42:25):
I read it too fast.
Um Yes.
Yes.
I uh the movie plot is good.
I I will say there's likesometimes a little too much
going on that I it was like hardto follow at a certain point.

Wilson (42:38):
Yeah, and I also think it was like a little too long,
or like some scenes are justlike I don't know, cut this,
make it shorter.
You're like losing my interesta little bit.

Captain (42:49):
Yeah, there's too many characters too that like have
lines that are important.
I'm just like we gotta narrowit down, or can we at least like
throw some diversity?
Like, I get it that it's 1943,but like I was losing track of
who's who.

Wilson (43:03):
Yeah.
So I think the concept wasreally interesting, but I wasn't
that impressed with it.

Captain (43:12):
I'm down for the concept for sure.
I mean, I'd do another.
Like I'd try another similarkind of concept, but Oh yeah, I
want another submarine thing.

Wilson (43:20):
Like um, I read that it's kind of it's a mix between,
of course, a submarine warmovie, but there's like hints of
things like event horizonloosely, like you're stuck on a
ship, there's like a haunting,you know, so yeah, like the end
is inevitable, basically.

Captain (43:39):
Like the end like the end of this like this this is
not going to end well.
Um something sinister ishappening, yeah.

Wilson (43:47):
But it did sort of end well for some people.
But that's true.
The people that deserved it.

Captain (43:51):
Did it but nobody's it doesn't end well for anybody on
Event Horizon.

Wilson (43:56):
Uh two of them get away.
I think two of them get away.

Captain (44:01):
Oh really?

Wilson (44:02):
Yeah.

Captain (44:04):
Oh, I'm thinking of a different movie.
Oops.
Um, you have any like we gottea, we got numbs, we got numbs.

Wilson (44:15):
Uh yeah, I'll start let's start with numbs.
Um, all right, so the budgetwas 40 million.
The box office was 2.6.
So this did real bad.

Captain (44:26):
I mean, 2002, was there something that was I mean,
there's gotta be something thatwas just way bigger at the time.

Wilson (44:32):
Let's see.
Um I was gonna see um what wasreleased in theaters that
weekend, so here I'll tell you.

Captain (44:42):
Um Wow, you can just put pull that up real quick.

Wilson (44:45):
Yeah, so Red Dragon.
Um, I'm not familiar with that.
Sweet Home Alabama.
Brown Sugar, The Transporter,My Big Fat Greek Wedding.

Captain (44:57):
Oh, that was a huge movie.

Wilson (44:59):
Uh Veggie Tales.

Captain (45:05):
Um I don't know Well, same target audience as this
movie, of course.

Wilson (45:09):
Wait, signs?

Captain (45:11):
Oh shit.
Wait.

Wilson (45:12):
Wait, for real?
Wait a second.
Is this like these dates don'tthis is a lot of movies for this
weekend.
Hold on a second.

Captain (45:19):
Well, they could also have just been playing that
weekend too, though.
Like, because they they'll playfor more than one week.

Wilson (45:25):
You're right, you're right.
Okay.
I'm trying to find this movie.
Master of Disguise.
Wow.
Born Identity was still inthere.
Mr.
Deeds.

Captain (45:38):
Scooby-Doo.
I was gonna say, for me, themost famous, like if I'm looking
up 2002 movies, it's likeScooby-Doo movie was I mean,
that was a hit.

Wilson (45:46):
Star Wars 2.

Captain (45:48):
Apparently, Ghost Ship was also a 2002 movie.

Wilson (45:51):
Oh.

Captain (45:52):
Which is like a similar vibe.

Wilson (45:54):
I I don't see as I yeah, I don't even see this movie on
this list, which is uh It mighthave had a limited release.

Captain (46:06):
It has famous people.
Well, I don't know if they werethat famous twenty three years
ago, though.

Wilson (46:14):
Oh, it's this says domestic, it's opening weekend.
They got 200,000.
That's Kimmy, that's bad.

Captain (46:25):
Yep.
Um yeah, the um Rotten Tomatoesscore is a little bit better
than the budget box officeratio.

Wilson (46:36):
I don't think the letterbox was good.

Captain (46:38):
Um, Rotten Tomatoes, you ha we have in here a 65 for
critics and a 45 for audience.
I don't think I rated this onletterbox.

Wilson (46:49):
I gave it a two.
Um letterbox gave it a three.
Also, really quick side note,those friends I told you about
that are doing that 13-hourmovie marathon.

Captain (46:59):
Uh huh.

Wilson (46:59):
It looks like they just finished From Beyond.

Captain (47:03):
Oh, whoa.

Wilson (47:04):
I kind of like that movie.
They gave it a three and a halfand a three.

Captain (47:08):
Okay.
I'm gonna give this movie, Ithink I'm gonna give this movie
a three.
Maybe two and a half.
I'm gonna give it a two and ahalf.

Wilson (47:18):
Okay.

Captain (47:19):
Um, yes.

Wilson (47:21):
Percentage-wise, what would you give it?
Wait, did you just yell at mefor a two, but you gave it a two
and a half?

Captain (47:29):
I didn't yell.
I'm on the I'm on the vergebetween a two and a half and a
three.
So I'm gonna go with a 58, Ithink.

Wilson (47:41):
Damn.
You you kind of liked thismovie.

Captain (47:45):
Okay, that's scrong language.
Okay.
You need to turn that explicitoff, okay?

Wilson (47:54):
Like 58's fairly good.

Captain (47:57):
Damn, all right.
I feel like I'm right inbetween the critics' audience.
Uh fine.

Wilson (48:04):
I gave it a 15, so Sir.

Captain (48:10):
This movie is better than the last movie we watched.

Wilson (48:14):
Uh I guess so.

Captain (48:18):
Damn.
I mean, I liked that it wasthere was like a lot of buildup
in this movie, which I I liked.
I mean, yes, they could havecut some, but like, you know, we
get we get it all through likeClaire's snooping, and then even
like um, like a little line atthe beginning when Claire starts
asking about like what happenedto Winters, and um I think um

(48:41):
Scott Foley's character, what'shis name?
What's Skipper or something?
He like stops Odell in thehallway and Odell's like, yeah,
she was just asking aboutWinters, and he said, What did
you tell her?
And he kind of like looksaround and he's like, the story.
I was like, Oh shit, T.
Um, like, you know, not thetruth, the story.
Um and like, you know, therewas even like a comedic line in

(49:05):
there.
I feel like this is probably myrag.
No, actually, I have adifferent rag that I actually
really liked.
But there was a comedic line inthere where like Claire says,
like, you know, I'll say whatwe're all thinking, like,
there's something else on thisship with us that's haunting.
And the captain, the thelieutenant guy cuts her off and
said, I didn't ask you, oranyone else.

(49:25):
And like, but like the way hecuts her off is like a little
comedic.
Um, I I don't know.
It it's like not great, butit's not like bad.

Wilson (49:35):
I just thought there were too many scenes of like I'm
in this room whispering, andnow I'm in this room and I'm
whispering, and now I'm inanother room, but with someone
else, and I'm just like justmove the story along.
Um you mentioned raised glass,so what is Yoldo?

Captain (49:54):
Okay, there's actually a really good raised glass.

Wilson (49:57):
It better not be mine, but we'll see.

Captain (49:59):
So they're doing one of their fixers, one of their
fixing scenes.
Okay.
And um, what's that guy's name?
I think it I think it's Loomis.
Um Loomis is in there, and he'svery anti, like not believing
in spirits or haunting stuff.
Um he's uh, you know, peoplehave been seeing like ghost

(50:20):
shadows and stuff, but uh Loomisis looking at himself in the
reflection, and he's likeweirded out because his
reflection is like helladelayed.
Like it's like delayed by likea second or two.
So like he's watching himselfmove and his reflection is like
moving really late, and he'slike, Okay, that's super weird.
And he he honestly turns aroundand he's like trembling because
it's so scary to see that, likeit doesn't physically make any

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sense.
Um, and we see the reflectionis not following at all.
Like as the audience, we seethat um because he trembles and
turns around facing the camera.
Um, and like when he turns backaround, um, I think it like
doesn't, yeah, it's like um Ithink it like flashes the ghosts

(51:03):
of Captain Winters orsomething, and he like screams
and runs.
Um, but watching thatreflection like be delayed and
then not fall at all and juststare at him like uh sinisterly,
like for me, best scene.
I was like, oh shit, this iscreepy.
And I I know we've seen thatreflection stuff a lot, but
something about this is veryominous that I really liked.

Wilson (51:26):
I could see that.
Yeah, that that scene waspretty cool.
I think My Rays of Glass alsodealt with Loomis.
We didn't talk about it in ourrecap, but uh he like sees it
might have been related to thisscene right after, but he gets
spooked by the ghost.
So he just leaves the submarineunderwater to it was in

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reaction to this scene.
He's like half crazed, and helike immediately gets impaled by
a piece of the submarine, sohe's just like dragged along the
rest of the movie.

Captain (51:59):
Yeah, I I can't I don't even know how you could exit a
submarine underwater.
Like I didn't even know thatwas possible, right?
Like the pressure of the water,but I don't know.

Wilson (52:07):
He makes his way out and I mean they get out there to do
those repairs.

Captain (52:10):
Oh yeah.
There must be some type of likeum double e-vack doors or
something, but um yeah, butyeah, he does get impaled
immediately.
But he's so spooked by thatscene that he is screaming and
running, like pushing people outof the way just to get like off
the ship and out of thewhatever is happening.
Um yeah, that is also a goodyeah.
The end of that is also good.

(52:32):
Um Yes.

Wilson (52:36):
Do you want some hot goose?

Captain (52:37):
Yeah, we do have a little hot goose.
Hit me with it.

Wilson (52:40):
Um so this one actually well, I I have a comment or uh
compliment for the movie after Iread it, but um, it says some
filming for the movie took placeon an actual retired uh
submarine uh from World War II.
It's the USS Silver Sides.
Um and you can tour this uh inMuskegon, Michigan, uh, but for

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this movie, for some of thescenes that they shot, they
towed it out into the middle ofLake Michigan.
Um they did do some minorrepainting to make it look um,
you know, current current ornew.
Um but that did make me think,uh, like they mentioned they did
they created sets for most ofthis.

(53:22):
Um I I thought the set designwas really cool, and I imagine
that was really expensive andwhere a lot of the money went,
and it's unfortunate that themovie did so poorly.
Yeah.
The sets were really good.

Captain (53:36):
With a little bit more, I see uh yeah, I have this in
here, but Tui actually refusedto re-edit this to make it PG
13, and that definitely led tothe theatrical release being so
low.
Because they they did a limitedrelease because of that.
There was also very littleadvertising for the film, so
that's why the earnings were solow.
Because I guess this is ratedR.

Wilson (53:58):
Oh, okay.

Captain (53:59):
For the time.
I mean, it's just awesome time.

Wilson (54:02):
I'd be like, this is this is a G movie.
Um so we already know thatDarren Aronofsky wrote or
co-wrote the film, um, but hewas going to direct it in 1999,
but instead he made Recuum for aDream.
Um I don't know if you everwatched that, but it's horribly
depressing.

Captain (54:22):
No.
What's like a one-sent synopsisset?

Wilson (54:25):
Uh it's been a long time since I watched it.
I think it was in college, butit has to do with like drugs and
addiction.
You basically see thesecharacters like drug out.
Yeah, ruin their lives.
Um uh, but it's really welldone.
Um originally Frank Sinatrasang, I'll be seeing you.
Uh oh, the records the yeah,the mysteriously playing songs

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that we heard.
Um, but it was replaced byBenny Goodman sing, sing, sing.

Captain (54:53):
Oh, yeah, that's what it was.
Yeah, Benny Goodman, yeah.

Wilson (54:57):
Um Holt, uh the guy who's in Mindhunter, um, Loomis,
uh, he learned how to do a lotof yo-yo tricks for this movie.

Captain (55:06):
Um yeah, that's his big thing, was the yo-yo, yeah.

Wilson (55:10):
His instructors listed in the final credits of the
movie, that's interesting.

Captain (55:14):
Um You know, I used to be able to do like two yo-yo
tricks when I was a kid.
Um I weirdly, like, when wasthe last time you actually saw
yo-yo in person in real life?

Wilson (55:26):
Um, well, I bought one maybe eight years ago, seven
years ago.

Captain (55:30):
Okay, I thought you were gonna say like six months
ago, and I was like, well,you're nasty.
Um, I went to like a workconference, right, where they
give out a bunch of free shitthat has their logos all over
it.
And I I've been to thisconference a bunch, and I've
never seen a yo-yo, and thisyear they had yo-yos.
Like, I brought a yo-yo home.
Wow.
Which is so random.

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And I remember trying to doshit with it, and I'm just like,
it's just hitting the floor.
It's like I don't know what I'mdoing anymore.
You gotta like put a lot offlick into it that I I feel like
I lost.
Um yo-yos.
Yeah.
The one I don't know if you hadthe one last thing about um how
this was supposed to besomething called Proteus

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originally.

Wilson (56:14):
Yeah, when Darren was gonna do it.

Captain (56:17):
Yeah.

Wilson (56:17):
Yeah.

Captain (56:18):
I don't know what Proteus is supposed to be, but
apparently they like dropped allthe sci-fi elements and
reworked it into a ghost story,but I don't know what the
original was supposed to be.

Wilson (56:28):
Huh.
I am curious what what it wouldhave been if he if he directed
it.

Captain (56:34):
I feel like movies go through these re reworks like so
much that it's like we lose alot of stories that would have
been the original.
Just in general, I mean, likebut anyway.
Um yes.

Wilson (56:50):
Uh I feel like I had one other one.
Oh, this one's more of a funfact that I didn't know, but uh
the top speed of that class ofsubmarine uh when it surfaced is
24 miles an hour.

Captain (57:03):
Is that a little for a submarine?
Is that a lot?

Wilson (57:07):
I don't know.

Captain (57:07):
It feels like that's not very fast, but uh Don't they
always isn't it measured inlike nautical knots or
something?

Wilson (57:14):
Well it does give a knots, but like I don't it says
21 knots, but I have no idea howfast that is.

Captain (57:19):
You said 21 knots and 24 miles per hour, yeah.
Okay.
Close enough.

Wilson (57:27):
Close enough.

Captain (57:29):
Um yeah, that's basically all yeah.
There's um a small uh like hintto Macbeth at one point because
you know Macbeth is all aboutlike a ghost haunting murder,
but you know, I I didn't evennotice it, but apparently it's
in like a bookshelf somewhere.
Um I I feel like if you'relooking for a spooky underwater

(57:54):
movie and you've already haveseen like the big ones, like The
Abyss, I I would say like thisis a possibility.
It's not like I would just hardnot recommend.
Now, you with your 15% overthere, I'm sure is a hard not
recommend.

Wilson (58:10):
I mean, I'm not gonna watch it again.
I would be surprised if I did.

Captain (58:15):
Okay.

Wilson (58:16):
I don't know.
I just did not like it thatmuch.

Captain (58:18):
I mean, again, it wasn't trash, but 15% sounds
like trash, dude.

Wilson (58:25):
I just whenever I see a lot of gimmicky, like ghost
faces that show up too often,I'm like, I don't know.

Captain (58:33):
There were a lot of ghost faces that show up.
Like a lot of them.
So like at one point Odell seeslike four at one time.

Wilson (58:41):
I like if they had practical effects and like they
had like a a dead, decayingflesh captain that was like kind
of sneaking around the ship,like murdering people, I'd be
like, hell yeah.

Captain (58:56):
But sneaking around sounds like Scooby-Doo, like
like he's tiptoeing around.
Um, yeah, something creepier, Ithink.
I I think we'd both be down forit.
Like the my my raise of glassis the creepiest scene, and
yours is the reaction to thatcreepy scene.
So yeah, I feel like thatspeaks for itself.
Um you uh you want to tell uswhat we're doing next time?

Wilson (59:19):
Yeah, we'll uh we'll surface uh from this discussion.
Take my take my hat off heresoon.
Um yeah, so next time we'redoing Awoken from 2019.

Captain (59:33):
Yes.
And it's loosely about a kidthat has like insomnia, like a
really bad case of insomnia, um,because of a demon.
Um insomnia just basicallyuntil you die.
And I think his sister's tryingto save him.

Wilson (59:48):
Damn.
Okay.
That sounds interesting.

Captain (59:52):
Yeah, I can't remember how good or bad it it's supposed
to be.

Wilson (59:57):
It'll be fine.

Captain (01:00:01):
Um, but yeah, that's the next one.

Wilson (01:00:03):
Sweet.

Captain (01:00:04):
Um, I feel like, you know, very relatable story here
with a submarine in 1943.

Wilson (01:00:10):
Sure, yeah.

Captain (01:00:11):
So I know there's lots that you could pull from.

Wilson (01:00:16):
Yeah.
So with all those options, whatdo you what do you have for me?

Captain (01:00:20):
I have a question for you.
You want a specific question,or you just want like, you know,
generally, is there some advicebased on this movie?

Wilson (01:00:30):
Don't I need advice?
Well wait, didn't you give me Igave you advice?

Captain (01:00:37):
We said get a lawyer.

Wilson (01:00:38):
Oh yeah, I asked you last time.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.

Captain (01:00:42):
It's your movie, and I need advice based on this movie
from you.

Wilson (01:00:47):
Uh yes.
Um I would say uh I don't know,like confirm what you're
shooting at, maybe, like thatit's not like friendlies.

Captain (01:01:02):
Yes, the beard.
A flashlight.

Wilson (01:01:06):
Flashlight.

Captain (01:01:08):
Okay.
Yeah, maybe like double checkis a good it's a good take
point.