May 13, 2025 • 62 mins
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This week, Captain and Wilson discuss the 1986 horror film, "Chopping Mall"!
Eight mall employees decide to have an after-hours party that turns deadly when lightning strikes the mall's new security robot system, causing the robots to malfunction and hunt them down. The group must use their wits, weapons from the mall's stores, and explosive traps to survive the night as the robots systematically try to eliminate them one by one.
The film discussion begins around 12:42.
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Captain (00:20):
wait, what were we saying?
Oh, als ALS.
Yes, sorry that man has ALS.
Wilson (00:27):
That sounds so insincere .
Captain (00:32):
I don't know him personally.
I don't wish it upon anyone.
They have gotten really farwith ALS ever since the Ice
Bucket Challenge.
I heard that's coming back For.
Wilson (00:45):
McSteamy no, just, no, just.
Well, I don't think so.
I think just in general thechallenge.
I don't know if it's stillrelated to alice oh what, you
can't just steal it for your?
I mean, I don't know, I I don'tknow if that's for sure, I just
haven't heard.
I heard that.
Captain (01:04):
Okay, well, I mean, I guess whatever works, but you
are kind of stealing.
Wilson (01:11):
Oh my gosh.
Now I need to look up.
Oh yep, it's back and it sayswith a new mission, but it cut
off what it's for.
Captain (01:21):
Of course it did.
It wants you to click.
Sucks to be them, because Iwent to Wikipedia, oh, a mental
health organization, that's thecurrent but I do think the ice
bucket challenge did create likea lot more um, like funding,
and therefore I hate when mycamera makes me blurry.
(01:42):
I have to like turn it off andback off.
Wilson (01:44):
I think it's focusing on your um like this thing oh,
this thing is not the maincharacter, okay do I look like a
microphone cover?
Captain (01:56):
yeah, seriously the fuck, um, but anyway, um, yeah,
he, that man does have ALS,though I forgot that.
He said that recently.
He's young, right?
I guess ALS is not an oldperson disease.
Wilson (02:16):
I don't know if he's.
Oh, okay, hold on, let's see.
Captain (02:20):
I thought he was like 40s or 50s.
Wilson (02:22):
He is 52.
See.
Captain (02:28):
Well, welcome, I'm here .
Wilson (02:31):
We here, we out here.
Captain (02:33):
I'm nuptials completed.
Wilson (02:38):
That's a fun way of saying that you're married.
Captain (02:42):
I beat the mission, yeah.
And then I went to Norway formy honeymoon and I know we've
talked about it, but there's onething we didn't talk about that
I want to talk to you about onthe podcast.
Wilson (02:53):
Okay.
Captain (02:55):
So they have a lot of.
In Norway.
They have a lot of trollmythology and history, like, um,
and so like in like uh,souvenir shops and like little
trinket stores, like there aretrolls everywhere.
Like I wasn't expecting howmuch trolls are important there.
(03:19):
Um, and we did go to like theofficial troll museum, um, which
was kind of interesting, but um, it is like I understand.
So like they have this his likemythology where like there's
like levels of trolls, likethere's the trolls that live
(03:40):
like in the underworld,basically um and um.
I feel like some of these namesyou probably have heard of, but
then they have like the trollson earth and then they have the
trolls in the like high.
They don't call it heaven, butthey call it like acer or
(04:01):
something, but it's like asgard.
So like they have the asgardworld which you know, you hear
about in the war, um, but yeah,they just, I don't know, they
have like so like that's asgard.
And then there's like midgard,which is like the world of
humans, and then okay the worldof the dead is called hellheim,
(04:26):
um, but yeah, they just havelike these, like this troll
thing, and I think it'sinteresting uh is this all like?
Wilson (04:33):
is asgard?
Is that from norwegianmythology, or did?
They adopt it somewhere okay Ithink so.
Captain (04:40):
I think, um, but yeah, like they just have this
interesting troll museum wherethey talk about how trolls are
the basis of the universe andthere's a troll for basically
every.
It's almost like in Romanmythology with deities, where
there was a god for everything.
It's kind of like there's atroll for everything, but they
(05:00):
don't give you the sun and therain, not like that.
It's just like they guardthings or they protect, like
land, or they're like eat humansto protect something.
Um, and I just the mostinteresting part of the museum I
(05:21):
thought was that I understandwhy they have this mythology,
because there are like multiplerock formations in Norway that
literally look like trolls,which are cool.
I guess I should have pulled upthe pictures, like I just have
pictures on my phone, I feellike you can't, but like that's
a rock formation.
Wilson (05:41):
Oh, that does look trollish.
Captain (05:43):
Right, but it's like literally how a rock formed um
so that one's called the trollwho lost his hat, and it's a
rock formation that looks like atroll on a mountain who does
not have his hat anymore.
Um, and after he looked he waslooking for it.
The myth is that he on a cloudyday he lost his hat.
He went, I'm sorry.
(06:06):
He came out one night wearing abig hat and he heard a rumor to
find some golden treasure.
He went looking for that goldentreasure and after many wasted
hours he sat on a mountain peakand then the strong wind took
his hat.
The midnight sun shone in thesky and I guess that turned him
(06:32):
into stone, so that's why he'sstuck there.
And then there's another trollrock formation.
Here's like another picture ofanother one.
Wilson (06:42):
That one looks old.
Captain (06:44):
Yeah, it is, I can't, I don't know.
It's another picture of anotherone.
That one looks old.
Yeah, it is, I don't know.
It's like weird.
But yeah, this one's called theTroll of Bysfoyard, okay, but
they had like six or seven ofthese.
I only took a couple pictures,but I don't know.
(07:04):
I was like like, oh, there'srock formations that look like
trolls and they're like probablythousands of years old.
Wilson (07:09):
Like that I can see where we're coming from so are
you saying like all norsemythology was based on these
rocks that look like trolls?
Captain (07:21):
I think a lot of it probably was.
But if this was like from along time ago and you don't know
how science works, like I getit fair, but like probably is
that troll bitch rock over there, like especially if they do a
lot of.
So they do a lot of like, uh,seafaring and fishing there and
it's like if, uh, the seacaptured, you know, if people
(07:47):
didn't come back because the seawas like really rough, be like
it's probably those trolls overthere that took them okay, I see
what point yeah like that's howpeople made up sea monsters I
still have questions, but well,it's a very old mythology that's
been around for a really longtime old.
(08:07):
Wow, that's rude it's just beenthere, but um.
The museum was, um, I think,more targeted towards children,
but it was kind of cool and Ifeel like you'd like there.
No, these are like literallylike the troll, doll trolls, but
(08:29):
more scary.
Wilson (08:32):
Okay so not literally the troll dolls.
Captain (08:34):
No, I didn't, that was a lie.
Some of the trinket, likesouvenirs, are more like the
troll doll trolls.
But the museum itself, like thepictures they have of what they
consider trolls, are like scarytrolls.
Wilson (08:49):
Oh, okay.
Captain (08:52):
Not all scary, but a lot of them are.
Wilson (08:55):
That reminds me of a movie I need to put on our watch
list.
Captain (08:58):
Is it Trolls?
Wilson (08:59):
No, but actually that would be an excellent choice.
I'm surprised we haven'twatched that yet.
Captain (09:10):
I mean, I've seen it.
Wilson (09:12):
Sorry, like.
Captain (09:14):
For the podcast.
Wilson (09:16):
Yeah, the podcast, I'm going to put it on here.
We're going to have a TrollsWeek.
We're going to do that one andYou're killing me.
The one I didn't say out loud.
Oh, now I remember Okay.
Captain (09:31):
You're killing me, okay .
And then the other thing I feellike this is going to gross you
out.
But the other thing I want totalk about and this is only
because I just randomly saw thison a social media post but have
you ever heard of the commonSuriname toad?
(09:52):
No, okay, it's a type of frogthat's fully aquatic and it is
from um northern africa areas,um, but it has a very
interesting reproductive cyclein which the mother, um her back
(10:22):
becomes, uh, covered in all ofher egg sacs and literally her
skin like becomes where the eggsgrow and like baby frogs like
burst out of her skin when theyare ready and it is like super
weird.
You can like literally see likegifs of the frogs, like videos
(10:45):
of the frogs like popping out ofher back I'm intrigued, but
also gross they hatch in small,like as small toads, looking
identical to the parents, andthey like, they like, pop out
the back, um, and and yeah, it'slike really fucking weird and
(11:07):
there's like pictures of it thatare nasty it sounds disgusting,
but I'm still intrigued are youlooking it up?
Wilson (11:20):
no, I don't know if I'm ready for it right now, but I am
intrigued.
You should take a look.
I don't know if I'm ready forit right now, but I am intrigued
.
Captain (11:25):
Well, you should take a look.
I don't think there's any other.
I think they're one of a kind.
Oh yeah, you can watch a reallygreat minute video from Nat Geo
.
Wilson (11:37):
What's this called again ?
Captain (11:40):
The Surinam Toad the Surinam Toad, the common Surinam
toad the Surinam toad.
I just saw that and I was likewhat that's like, that
trypophobia thing.
Yes, that is exactly what it'sreminding me of.
If you don't like a bunch ofholes, you're really not going
(12:05):
to like that.
I guess I should have probablytrigger warning.
Wilson (12:09):
It's fine.
Captain (12:10):
But she's here, she's ready.
Wilson (12:14):
Let's bring us in.
Captain (12:15):
Oh, I did actually open a Florida Seltz, I know.
Wilson (12:21):
It's a strawberry kiwi.
I haven't had that one.
Captain (12:25):
It's pretty goodwi.
I haven't had that one.
It's pretty good.
I just have a LaCroix.
Wilson (12:38):
Okay Are you ready for our cookie, cookie spooky.
Captain (12:42):
Yes, Now I want cookies , but yes.
Okay, welcome to the 168thepisode of the Red Room Podcast,
where we review horror movieswhile enjoying an adult beverage
or two.
Wilson (12:54):
And I'm Captain, and I'm Wilson.
Captain (12:55):
And this week we're reviewing the 1986 American
independent techno-horror filmChopping Mall.
I don't really know why theywould call it a techno I mean
that soundtrack though oh, liketechnology horror.
Is that what that means?
I, I don't know, couldn't tellyou so I looked this up a long
(13:16):
time ago and put it on our listof kooks, um like, we try to do
one cookie a season or more, butI did not look at the details
of this movie until literally afew hours ago.
So it was directed by JimWynorski and he is known for
(13:37):
soft porn, mostly known for softporn.
He has done some creature films.
He did have this um run ofdoing like more recently like
child like dinosaur films, umlike, and he did some with like,
(13:58):
uh, a dog who's like an air airpilot or something wow, he just
does whatever the hell he wants, doesn't he?
yeah, it's like real, I don'tknow.
He's got a, it's eclectic.
Give you that.
Um, he did do return of theswamp thing in 1989.
I wrote 1889.
(14:19):
He did Ghoulies number four in94.
Okay, he really likes to do alot of erotic movies, so I did
not know that.
Wilson (14:32):
I was looking over his movie titles and one of them
made me laugh.
It's the Bear Wench Project.
Captain (14:41):
He has a really famous soft porn erotic movie called
like the Breastwick of something.
Wilson (14:47):
Okay.
Captain (14:47):
It came up multiple times when I was looking him up.
Yeah, he does a couple pun ones.
There's a lot of pun ones.
So if that's what you're in themood for, jim's gotcha um,
jim's gotcha um.
It was also produced by roger.
(15:09):
Are you still looking at movietitles?
Wilson (15:13):
I'm gonna close it out continue oh, it was also.
Captain (15:16):
I mean, I'll take a fun one, I don't know um.
It was also produced by rogercorman, slash julie, his wife.
But roger corman is like a hugename in hollywood.
He is known as various monikers, such as the pope of pop cinema
, the spiritual godfather of newhollywood or the king of cult.
(15:41):
He was known as the trailblazerin the world of independent
films, so he produced a lot ofthem, um, like greenlit, a lot
of independent films, and hebasically like changed the
industry so that independentfilms could be like more
mainstream well, I've neverheard of him well, you're not in
the biz yet.
Wilson (16:01):
Okay, let's see all right, let's give it a couple
weeks yeah, let's see how thishershey movie comes through.
Captain (16:09):
Then maybe you'll heard of mr corman himself okay, okay
okay, so roger corman likeproduced this movie and like
greenlit it, so that meanssomething, kid sure um, there's
a fucking cast for this movieand I'm not gonna get into like
(16:32):
all of them, but, um, there'slike what, four couples
basically, um, that are supposedto be teenagers but they do not
look like teenagers.
But so it's like four girls andfour boys, and most of them
haven't been in a ton of stuff.
(16:53):
But the main one of them, kellyMaroney, plays Allison.
She was in Fast Times atRidgemont High and she was in a
soap opera called Ryan's Hope,but she also pairs up with Jim
Wynorski a lot.
I think she's very pleasantlyokay with erotic scenes,
(17:24):
apparently.
And then her partner in thefilm, tony odell, plays ferdy um
, and he's mostly, he's probablythe one of the most known names
.
He is in cobra kai, or sorry,he's one of the cobra kai
members in the karate kid um,and he was, uh, in a couple of
(17:44):
those movies.
Yeah.
Wilson (17:50):
I have never seen Karate Kid.
Captain (17:53):
Ugh.
Ugh I feel like it's.
I feel like how did you not seethat movie?
Wilson (17:59):
I don't know.
Captain (18:01):
I feel like everybody's seen that movie at some point.
Wilson (18:05):
You've seen it.
Captain (18:06):
Yes, you've seen it.
Yes, I've seen it multipletimes.
All right, okay.
And then there's that guydoesn't really do anything.
And then Suze.
Oh, I did it again.
Suze, played by BarbaraCrampton, is probably one of the
most known people.
She was known for doing a lotof soap operas.
(18:27):
So Days of Our Lives, the Youngand the Restless, the Bold and
the Beautiful.
She was in Re-Animator andshe's in From Beyond.
Okay, I know that we did themovie From Beyond.
Could not tell you what thatmovie's about.
I squelched it already becauseI wasn't sure if we did the
movie.
Wilson (18:46):
Okay.
Captain (18:46):
So it was 1.43.
Could not tell you a singlething about that movie.
I have no idea.
Wilson (18:54):
Oh, okay, I just looked it up.
Yes, you will remember thismovie if you have not looked it
up yet.
As soon as you what?
Captain (19:01):
is it?
Wilson (19:02):
I did Google Images from knew me it was the guy that had
like the, the forehead dick andlike it was oh, how could I
forget?
Captain (19:14):
yes, okay, that brings it back um.
Yeah, and she was inducted intothe rondo hatton classic horror
awards monster kid hall of famesounds completely made up I
don't know, but it was last year, 2024 she got inducted props to
(19:35):
barbara.
Um, and then, who the fuck ismary in this movie?
Mary?
Is that one of the?
Is that the girl?
Wilson (19:49):
oh, I think it's the brunette, because there's that
one couple that were just likemarried no because there's paul
bland and mary bland yeah, Ithink they're Wait what.
Captain (20:05):
Oh no, that was Linda.
Wilson (20:09):
What are you talking about?
Captain (20:10):
That girl in the movie.
Her name was Linda.
Wilson (20:14):
I don't know who the hell Paul and Mary Bland are.
Captain (20:16):
Then I don't remember siblings, I think they're that
couple in the very beginning,when they're watching the
trailer for the robots, andthere's those two people talking
to each other.
The couple is talking.
They're like making peanutgallery comments about the
robots.
Wilson (20:36):
Yeah, wasn't that?
The weren't those the peoplethat ended up in the mall and
they were married.
Captain (20:43):
No, I'm talking about the older couple, like next
generation couple.
I don't remember them at allthere's like a lady in a red
dress and she's talking to herhusband about the robots and
they're like how much would this?
Wilson (20:56):
cost, oh yes, while they're in the mall seeing the
presentation yeah, I think it'sthose two people.
Oh, oh, okay, that makes senseyeah so we don't get their names
.
You don't even have Lindalisted here.
Captain (21:10):
Yeah, I don't think she was in a lot.
Paul and Mary not reallyimportant characters in this
film, but Mary is a cult filmstar because she's worked in a
lot of Roger Corman films andAndy Warhol films and she's in
House of the Devil, which we didnot do that movie Not to be
(21:33):
mixed up with.
I Trapped the Devil.
Are you thinking we did Houseof the Devil?
I think I saw that movie.
I think I'm fairly certain Isaw this movie.
Wilson (21:45):
I think I'm fairly certain I saw this movie.
Captain (21:49):
Yeah, same.
Wilson (21:52):
Are you sure we didn't do it?
Captain (21:55):
We might have done it, but I didn't think we did.
I thought I was mixing it upwith.
I Trapped the Devil, we did seeHouse of the Devil.
Wilson (22:02):
It was episode 51.
I Trapped the Devil.
We did see House of the Devil.
It was episode 51.
I Trapped the Devil was 163.
Captain (22:09):
Girl 51?
I couldn't tell you anythingabout it.
Wilson (22:14):
I couldn't tell you.
Yeah, if you look up GoogleImages, it's familiar.
Captain (22:20):
Brings you back.
Wilson (22:21):
Well, I don't know about that.
Captain (22:23):
Okay, and the last person that actually has done
stuff I think walter is thejanitor that gets killed, played
by dick miller, and he's done alot of stuff.
He was in little shop ofhorrors a um roger corman film,
the howling Gremlins, theTerminator, gremlins 2.
(22:44):
But he, yeah, he's like themost known actor in this film.
He's only in it for like twominutes.
Oh yeah, but Little Shop ofHorrors, speaking of, is like
(23:08):
the main film that got Rogergercorman on the map because it was
seen as like a very uh weird,like indie culty film and it did
really well and it was likefrom the 1960s, so that like got
him, got him on the map, okay,um, yeah, so, like I said, this
film mostly revolves around, uh,four couples, so like eight
kids, but they all work at thispark plaza mall, um, and it
(23:32):
starts off with giving you, thepark plaza has decided to
instate these state-of-the-artsecurity system, but it's just
like these R2-D2 robots, butwith a lot more guns.
Yeah, tranquilizers, tasers,Tranquilizers yeah, yeah, yeah,
(23:55):
and they're supposed to.
What was the word?
Neutralize the criminals?
Wilson (24:01):
Yes, not kill them, just keep them captive till the
police can come yeah, and it'ssupposedly supposed to make them
the safest mall in america.
Captain (24:09):
Um, but shortly after, like literally the night they're
instated, um, there was athunderstorm and it looks like
the lightning like surged outthe power or something and
fucked with their power or theiryeah, for some reason the
computer main system was outsideum and it got struck by
(24:34):
lightning and it caused therobots to be bad yeah, I don't
think.
Does wikipedia even mention that?
Oh yeah, it does, I see.
Oh yeah, and there are threerobots Protector 1, 2, and 3.
And then we get introduction tothe kids.
(24:55):
So there is Allison and Susie.
They are waitresses at apizzeria in the mall and then
their boyfriends work in like afurniture store or something in
the mall, and then theirboyfriends work in like a
furniture store or something atthe mall.
Ferdy and Greg Never got Greg'sname.
They're also friends with Rickand Linda, told you Linda.
Wilson (25:16):
I'm not going to remember any of these names.
Captain (25:18):
Those are the married couple that are mechanics, I
think.
And then Mike and Leslie.
Oh yeah, those are the onesthat died first.
Spoiler Sorry, mike and Leslie.
So they're like all kind ofgetting ready for Susie's party
(25:40):
and Allison is actually.
It says that Freddie is herboyfriend, but she's actually
kind of nervous to meet himbecause she's being set up as a
blind date.
But really like quickly.
I mean they're really just hereto like dance awkwardly and
like fuck on the couches.
Wilson (25:57):
Way too close to each other.
It's nasty.
Captain (26:01):
There's really not a party happening.
Like they say party's reallynot a party happening.
They say party, this is not aparty.
They are just fucking on thefurniture in the value furniture
store in the mall.
Wilson (26:16):
Well, two of them are just watching a movie.
Captain (26:19):
Yeah, the Allison and Ferdy, who were set up as a
first date, are not doing that,while three other couples have
sex on the beds.
Literally right there, rightthere.
And then we get the.
We also get the scene of the.
So Marty, who was the guy thatwas working in the back where
(26:40):
the robots were, as soon as theyget struck with lightning, the
robots are like it's time.
Get struck with lightning, like, the robots are like it's time
to kill.
So they kill marty, and thenthe next security guard comes in
there afterwards.
Marty's nowhere to be found.
I'm like they eat him.
His body's gone, um, and thenthey just kill the next guy, um,
and then they're basically likeready for their mission.
(27:02):
So so they're like protectorone, two and three dispersed
onto levels of the mall one, twoand three.
So after these kids are likefucking or whatever, one of them
Rick maybe Leaves I don't thinkit's Rick.
Wilson (27:21):
It's a chewing.
Can we just call him ChewingGum?
Captain (27:23):
Chewing Gum leaves to go get cigarettes.
And the crazy part about thismovie which I feel like you
don't see a lot there is nobuildup to the kills.
It is like.
Wilson (27:35):
We jump right in.
Captain (27:37):
Like there's no suspense, there's no like, oh,
maybe they'll get away.
It's like, no, they just,they're just, it's killing.
Now it's it's very weird to seebecause like when you see a
campy movie, you're expecting, Idon't know a little, I don't
know, like carnival-ish fun.
But you get none of that.
It's like, and we're killing um.
(27:58):
So he got chewing gums, gettingcigarettes and like,
immediately killed.
Wilson (28:05):
So it's interesting, they knock him out and then kill
him, which seems weirdly humane.
Captain (28:13):
I was confused because I thought he was tased, but then
it's like oh no, he's mostlydecapitated, yeah.
So yeah, I thought he wasstunned, but, yeah, his
girlfriend comes looking for himand she's she does a good
scream queen when she finds himdead.
Um, but then she is beingchased by the robot.
(28:35):
Um, lasered her fucking headstraight off fantastic scene uh,
really good scene.
Um lasered her whole fuckinghead off in front of all of her
friends.
Um, and they're like, oh fuck,and like I can't explain to you
how much there is no suspense.
Build up the robots like let itgo from blasting that girl's
(28:55):
head off to immediately breakingthrough the glass of the store
that these kids are in and justtracing them down, like they
don't waste no time, no time,yeah and so the kids are like
screaming, they like run to theback, they try to get themselves
um like protected behind someother wall.
Does not care, the robots arejust gonna laser their way
(29:17):
through um, but they do get thegirls the three girls that are
alive up into the air shaft, andthey were gonna like climb to
the parking garage.
Wilson (29:26):
I guess to get help.
This is also where we find outthe robots also have c4 um for
some reason important for mallprotection.
Yes, yes, uh, but like as youwere saying, the girls all go in
the air duct to get to thegarage, which they don't make it
there they do not make it there.
Captain (29:45):
It's hot as fuck up there.
Um, there's some thoughtprocess that the robots are uh,
like can read their minds, orlike they have intelligent
thoughts, I don't know.
Um, but yeah, they literallyare like oh, you guys are hiding
behind like a security door orwhatever, no problem, and they
just blow that bitch up withsome c4 again, just like last
(30:09):
movie.
There is quite an explosionbudget, um, but yeah, so the
three boys don't die.
They make their way out andthey're like we're gonna go to
the weapons store so they getlike hunting guns.
Um, clearly none of these menhave ever shot a gun before.
They are the worst aim LikeI've never seen aiming this bad
(30:32):
in a movie.
They can't shoot anything Like.
Wilson (30:36):
They cannot like hit anything, they eventually get
there.
Captain (30:41):
Allison gets there because her father's a marine,
but it's not good.
Um, and then, after they getthe guns, they figure out that
if they use a propane tank foran explosion, they can kill
another robot well, maybe killit that's true, it did have
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goopy noises, but I don't knowif that was.
Wilson (31:04):
They don't show us.
Captain (31:05):
And yeah, I think it was added in added in after
maybe it was a defense mechanismthat the robot had like oh,
humans will think that I'm dead,but again important to have a
defense mechanism for um, so,yes, he, uh, oh, what, yes, and
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then around the same, I meant tomention so the janitor, he
kills the janitor.
I think around the same timeactually, I think it's like the
first kill, I meant are thesemovies related because they kill
the janitors?
Wilson (31:38):
is that the the underlying theme of these two
episodes?
Captain (31:42):
Yeah, that's.
Wilson (31:49):
Dick Miller.
Captain (31:49):
Yeah, the guy, but he was electrocuted with paint
somehow.
I don't know.
Wilson (31:55):
I think it was just a dirty bucket of water and the
water like, oh, it was justreally dirty water.
It was really nasty.
It looked like milk or likechocolate milk.
Captain (32:04):
Oh, he did say somebody , maybe it was really nasty.
Wilson (32:05):
It looked like milk or like chocolate milk.
Captain (32:06):
Oh, he did say somebody .
Maybe they spilled like milk orice cream or something.
Wilson (32:09):
Anyway, he kept washing the floor with that, but
whatever.
Captain (32:12):
Yeah, it's nasty, but have you ever walked around a
mall food court and the floorhas been like clean, like it's
always like a little sticky orthere's french fries?
Wilson (32:27):
Yeah, like it's always like a little sticky, or there's
french fries, yeah, and even ifit didn't feel sticky, I would
I would never assume it wasclean.
Captain (32:32):
Yeah, it's got the milk , the milk the milk haze on it
yeah um, yeah, so anyway, he is,has mop water bucket and he's
yelling at this robot becauseit's asking for his badge
security.
But I just like that.
It electrocutes him and thenthe robot quickly says thank you
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, have a good day, have a niceday.
And the robot just keeps doingthat.
Whenever it killed somebody,not only do you get no suspense
build up, it immediately killspeople and then it gives you
this hysterical line of thankyou, have a nice day oh yeah um,
which is just great.
Like you're, like you're justlaughing through the movie
because it's just so ridiculous,um, but anyway.
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So they guys have the guns andthe girls come out of the air
ducts because suzy is likepanicking that it's way too
fucking hot in there.
Um, so when they girls jump outof the air ducts because Susie
is panicking that it's way toofucking hot in there.
So when the girls jump out ofthe air duct, they're still in
the mall and they decide to makealso bombs.
I don't know.
They're putting towels, soakingtowels in gas cans.
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Why are there so many gas cansand propane tanks in this
fucking mall?
Wilson (33:44):
I mean, I guess there was a sports goods store where
they got guns.
Captain (33:49):
Yeah, but I've been to Dick's Sporting Goods.
I don't remember seeing it likethis.
Wilson (33:52):
I mean damn, this is what the 80s that's true.
Captain (33:58):
So they're like arming themselves with that.
Allison was smart and grabs aflare, which nobody else does.
She should have said something.
But fuck those friends, I guess.
But after they kind of like getthemselves armed, one of the
robots that they thought theykilled, he's like back online
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and I think that's the one thatthe girls try to light on fire
when they're trying to get likepast it.
And um, susie, quickly, uh getslit on fire with the fire that
they cause and she like burnsalive.
She's screaming for a long timeand her friends are like we
have to help her, but then theydon't help her at all.
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Yeah, they literally are like no, sis, we're not coming over
there at all.
Wilson (34:47):
They would have been fine if she didn't urge them to
get out of the air duct.
Captain (34:52):
That's true.
So you're saying Susie deservedit, it's her fault.
Wilson (34:55):
Yeah.
Captain (34:59):
I was just like I get it that Susie got shot in the
leg and she was like I, I know Ican't walk, but she doesn't
even try to move a lot like it's.
She's on fire and she's likenot trying to like.
Just because you're shot in theleg doesn't mean you can like,
not, you can't like roll aroundto put the fire out.
Wilson (35:15):
I mean yeah it stopped drop and roll, something that
came out after 1986 or whateverI, yeah, I don't know I, but if
she wasn't caught on fire, therobot might have caught up to
them faster and killed all ofthem oh, so she was a sacrifice
yeah, so the saint suzy saintsuzy had her nips out earlier in
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the film didn't she compare.
Captain (35:43):
Didn't she like make a pizza reference pepperoni, it
was pepperoni it was a pepperonijoke and I was like that's
never gonna.
If anything, that's an ick girl, I don't know, even though her
boyfriend was in on it.
He was like I like pizza.
I was like get the fuck out ofhere.
There are way too many peoplein this room for you to start
bringing out your kinks out.
Wilson (36:02):
Yeah, we don't.
Captain (36:03):
Nobody else needs to hear that yeah, and everybody's
in the room hearing it.
It's crazy, um, but anyway, umside note.
Okay, do you remember?
I remember being in preschool,so this is like earlier than
five years old and learning.
Stop drop and and roll I feellike we talked about stop, drop
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and roll way too many times forme to never have to pull it out.
I feel like stop, drop and rollwas going to become very
important in my life by how manytimes we discussed it, I don't
know.
I mean I guess it's good that Iknow that, but I mean I guess
it's good I've never had to useit, but they talk about it a lot
it's a lot.
Wilson (36:47):
It's a lot.
I'm thankful I've never had touse it, but wow I.
How often are they lightingkids on fire?
Captain (36:54):
I know I'm like when does this come up to the point
where I needed to learn this?
Like a fucking song that goesalong with it.
Like what?
Yeah um, anyway, well, suzydidn't learn it, I guess no, she
did not um, yes, but suzy diesand her boyfriend rick is not
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doing well he is, so theyregroup the boys and the girls.
Wilson (37:22):
Yeah.
Captain (37:22):
But Rick is sad and stressed and he's not doing well
and he's kind of like crazy.
So he like I don't know exactlywhat he says, but he basically
like runs off and was like I'mgoing to kill him.
Wilson (37:42):
Yeah, because that always works out so well.
Captain (37:44):
Yeah, he doesn't.
Um, he, I think he walked awayfor this moment to get another
drink or whatever, but he likequickly gets himself like yeeted
off of, like the third floor,like the walkway, the balconies
that like looked out on all theother floors.
Yeah, one of the robots justshoves him off the side with its
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robot arms.
Actually you get an image ofhim from the top floor and his
neck is cracked to the side andhis arms broken behind him and
he's covered in the worstlooking fake blood I've seen in
a long time.
But he's dead, so he's notdoing well, I cannot explain how
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much.
There is no buildup to thesemurders, but anyway, now there's
four kids left, so we haveAllison and Ferdy and the
married couple, linda andsomebody.
And they decide okay, what weshould really do is go to the
computer room, because that'swhat's controlling the robots
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from there, so we can go thereand we can turn their power off.
Let's just do that.
And they say that.
But then they don't immediatelygo and do that, which I was
confused about, because thenthey do this other plan where
they're like with the mannequins.
I guess the robots are chasingthem.
Wilson (39:08):
Maybe that's why, yeah, but I don't think they even end
up in the computer room.
Captain (39:17):
No, they don't think they even end up in the computer
room.
No, they don't.
They bring it up twice.
They don't really end up thereconfusing um, but they do make
their way to another store wherethere's um mannequins and like
a mirror, and they basically setthe robots up to attack the
mannequins for targets.
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And then there's like a mirrorbehind the mannequins.
So when they pull this drapeoff, the laser that the robots
are shooting ends up shootingback at the robot, so it kills
the robot, kind of yeah.
Wilson (39:50):
I don't really get that part, but.
Captain (39:53):
The lasers are also like really um low budget yeah,
I mean they look okay from 1986,but I don't know.
We've watched 80s movies wherethe special effects look way
better, but this is a low budgetfilm, so yeah, that's fine so
the robot is like nowelectrified, and this is where
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the one guy dies.
Yeah, One of the lasers thatbounces off the mirrors hits
Linda.
She's gone.
And then Linda's boyfriend Idon't know what he was doing,
but he drives one of thoselittle like mechanical
maintenance.
Wilson (40:33):
Yeah.
Some kind of little cartHonestly, I don't know what it's
for like the mall carts.
Captain (40:37):
I feel like I've seen those in malls before, but it
just he just drives it directlyinto the robot, not really sure
what's going on here?
he also becomes electrified andthen dies yeah, but the robot
also dies, I guess oh yeah, andthen I should mention so.
So that's one robot down.
They killed one robot shortlybefore this in a propane
explosion.
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They really killed it this timein like an elevator shaft
propane explosion.
So there's one robot left,right, left, and they're like
okay, now let's go to thecomputer and they separate,
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which I never understand.
Why they split up.
I never get it.
They always say like let'ssplit up for blah, blah, blah.
I'm like you're dumb.
Wilson (41:30):
I guess this is where they're looking for the computer
room, but like she ends updigging around in a closet.
Captain (41:36):
Yeah, again, I don't know.
She was nowhere near thecomputer room, but I guess
Protector 2 and 3 are dead.
So Protector 1 is still aliveand he corners Allison in her
little closet, digging and she'sscreaming, but I think she gets
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.
Oh, is this when she runs intothe pet store?
Wilson (42:00):
she does hide there at some point.
Yeah, oh, she does the paintwell, she's in a pet store and
then maybe right after that iswhen she goes to the paint store
yeah.
Captain (42:09):
So she's in a pet store and there are puppies in there.
I was very nervous, even thoughI know I double checked our
movie list.
Triple checked.
I was like there better not beany death here.
But she basically gets coveredin snakes and spiders and has to
stay quiet.
Her reaction after the robotleaves and she just like gets
off and shakes them off.
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I was like this is so awkward.
I don't, because like normallyyou would see her like freak out
after she could freak out andlike make noise, but it's almost
like they left an extendedcouple of seconds in that cut
because she just like gets up.
It's almost like she's notacting yeah, she like shakes
them off and walks off camera.
I'm just like, why did youleave this clip in here?
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It was very weird, um.
But then she makes it to oh,and then we see ferdy gets um
knocked out.
So you think he's dead so Ialso think she's by herself.
Um, and she was like, okay, fuckthis, I'm gonna make a another
explosion bomb.
So she like puts a bunch ofpaint on the ground.
Wilson (43:12):
I didn't really understand what that was for I
think it's, and with paintthinner, I think it's really
flammable, even though I don'treally understand is flammable.
That part was like I.
Captain (43:22):
I thought paint thinner was flammable but I was like
why the paint?
Wilson (43:24):
I mean she's, maybe she's dumb or and also paint.
Captain (43:28):
Back then was flammable probably, probably, um, she
also had so much time like shehad.
She opened like a dozencontainers.
I was like how far away is thisfucking robot?
Wilson (43:43):
because I know they're fast.
We have seen them like barelyoutrun them we've seen them
barely outrun them.
Captain (43:49):
We've seen the robots sneak up on people even though
they make the largest screamingmechanical noises.
Yeah, somehow they can besilent sometimes if they want to
.
I was like, okay girl, sheliterally had like 20 minutes to
just dick around and open cansin there, um, but she opens them
all, she gets the robot trappedin there and then she lights
the paint and paint thinner onfire um big paint explosion
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store and that finally destroysthe last robot protector
protector.
Um, so allison is alive, butshe's definitely hurt and she's
like limping out as, I guess,daylight appears because they've
been trapped in the mall allnight.
Um, and then she sees that fredalive, ferdy's alive, ferdy,
(44:36):
her little boy.
Wilson (44:37):
He's caring for his head wound with toilet paper.
Captain (44:39):
Yes, he is.
And then they get out.
Oh, there's a post-creditsscene.
Wilson (44:48):
Yeah, we did not stay around for that.
Captain (44:51):
I fast-forwarded through a lot of it, I mean
Anyway.
Wilson (44:55):
It might even be a video no visual.
Captain (44:59):
Okay, there's post-credit scene that says a
fourth unknown protector saysit's cut phrase have a nice day,
one last time I don't feel likethat's hinting at a fourth
protector.
I feel like that's just just afunny line from the movie yep
yeah, yeah, I pretty much afterevery single death, they say
thank you, have a nice day,which is just very comical also
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at one point.
Okay, these are huge robotswith like um, like uh conveyor
belt treads or yeah, like oneach side yeah, and at one point
, one of them comes up anescalator.
I was like, sir, you are notfitting on the step of an
escalator, like they don't showthe bottom of him because
there's no fucking way he'sgetting on an escalator and not
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working, um, but yes, the movieis very campy and it's funny, um
, but I like that.
Compared to the other reallykooky, campy movies we've done,
this one has like more, uh,production value, like based on
versus lamageddon well, yeaheven um killer sofa like um
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thanks.
Killing like this has betterproduction value than a lot of
this, so am I hearing somecompliments for this movie.
This movie is funny.
It's not bad if you're like wasit entertaining?
Yes, it's not scary, but it'sfunny and campy okay um, like
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the rotten tomatoes score is a55 and a 39, which is like not
that bad for a horror moviethat's actually.
Wilson (46:45):
Yeah, that's pretty good I know this movie.
Captain (46:48):
I couldn't find a box office.
The budget was very limited.
It it says $800,000 total, butit didn't have great box office
success.
But according to Jim the moviedid super well when it made its
way to VHS and there's a quoteof him saying you couldn't walk
into a blockbuster in the late80s without seeing many copies
(47:14):
of Chopping Mall apparently.
Wilson (47:15):
Wow.
Captain (47:15):
We wouldn't know what that was like, but that's what
he says.
So it made a lot more money,apparently, when it went to VHS.
Yeah, Did you want to hear somehot goose?
Oh, yeah.
Wilson (47:32):
I do.
Did you want to hear some hotgoose?
Captain (47:33):
Hell yeah, I do so.
When Norski Jim said he wasinspired by the 1954 54 film Gog
no fucking idea.
He said he never saw the 1973TV film Trapped, which some
believed Inspired Chopping Mall.
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But I haven't seen either oneof those.
I don't know anything aboutthose.
Wilson (47:58):
No, I probably won't watch them, but I am curious.
Captain (48:02):
Yeah, I feel like, but I don't know if I've heard of
Gog or I've just heard ofsomething.
I mean, it's just not a word,so it just sounds like a noise.
I feel like it's probably thenoise that the robot makes Like
I don't know protect our oneyeah okay, and then the film was
intended to be shot on thelocation at the beverly center,
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which is in la, and you probablyhave seen that mall before.
Like it's pretty famous, but itwas.
There's a much larger fee tofilm in that mall, so instead
they filmed in the sherman oaksgalleria, which is also in la,
but that mall is much cheaper tofilm in and it was where the
fast times at ridge mount highwas filmed.
But they still use the beverlycenter as the exterior shots for
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the mall in this movie.
Um, so, yeah, apparently the umowner, or like the yeah, I guess
the owner or the manager of theum sherman oaks galleria was
apparently like really on boardwith this film and was excited
about it.
Um, he's probably just somebodythat was into movies because he
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let multiple movies film there,even though security there kept
telling him that this movie islike like damaging things.
Um, he was like, no, it's fine.
Um, and as I was watching thisand I, after I read that quote,
I was like there are like sparksin the film and there's
definitely like a lot of smokehappening yeah, and like I don't
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see how this wouldn't damageeven like the carpets, or I mean
they're playing in an elevatorshaft at one point.
I'm like I don't know, they'rebreaking a lot of glass, even if
it's like movie glass, like youstill have to clean all of that
oh yeah like I can see thathappening, but I don't know.
I guess the manager was likeit's fine, they're making a
(49:54):
movie, what do you want me to do?
Um, so yeah, and then I thinkthis is interesting apparently
they made this movie and thenthey put it out to a test
audience and the original titlewas was kill bots?
Um, but it tested really poorly, so they cut over 15 minutes of
the movie out and then theyretitled it to be better suited
(50:19):
for a larger audience.
Wilson (50:20):
Why make it shorter?
Was there too much conversationaround kill bots in the movie?
Captain (50:26):
I swear to fucking God, they probably took all of the
suspense out.
That's what it feels like,because we have no suspense and
it's just and we're killing Likethere's no build-up.
Um yeah, but apparently theytook over 15 minutes out.
Um, I don't know.
I don't know what they took out.
It's just, that's what it says.
Kill boss is not a good name,like chopping no name but, um,
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the.
It's not a correct name, likeeven the title or the iconic
cover of the movie and the adcampaign there's like a
mechanical claw gripping, like abloody shopping bag that has a
decapitated head in the bag andlike that is not realistic to
what the movie is fair enoughyeah, it's really not.
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I mean, it catches you but, yeah, but I think the original movie
, non-truncated, might be morereal Like, might be more what
that movie poster is, and Ithink the movie might have made
a little bit more sense with thefull cut.
(51:34):
Yeah, but this cat.
Wilson (51:34):
I see the movie might have made a little bit more
sense with the full cut.
Yeah, but this cat I see thecat.
Captain (51:39):
I see the cat.
Don't let them cut your cords.
Wilson (51:44):
Oh yeah, it should be fine.
Captain (51:46):
Yeah.
Wilson (51:50):
Yeah, but I honestly, even though the movie was cut, I
still really liked it.
Captain (51:55):
So yeah, I just wish there was like.
Yeah, like I said, I just wishthere was like a little bit more
.
Are they going to kill him orhow are they going to kill him
and it's like we're killing.
I don't know what to tell you.
And then the last thing for thespecial effects.
So excluding the laser beams,which I like that they mentioned
that.
So excluding the laser beams,which I like that they mentioned
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that most of what you see theKillbots do are actually
remote-controlled via theeffects crew.
Wilson (52:22):
Oh really, the laser beams were not real.
Captain (52:24):
Yeah, but all of the movements, all of the
compartments opening and theshooting and stuff, apparently
that was all done via remotecontrol, which at one point you
see a robot turning around in anelevator and I was like, oh,
that's so funny that somebody'slike like on a little remote
control turning that robotaround.
Um, and then also with thespecial effects, um, there's the
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scene where greg's thrown tohis death.
Oh, his name's greg.
Um, apparently, jim volunteeredto try the stunt himself, as
long as they set him up from thesecond level, and he completed
it successfully.
But afterwards he found outthat he'd broken a rib in the
process.
But he didn't tell anybody thathe did that, that he got hurt,
so no one found out about it.
Wilson (53:09):
Um, during the production time, which I feel
like now, that would not beallowed well no, because that
means he deceived someone elseinto thinking it was safe to
jump off yeah, betcha, he didn't, betcha, he didn't.
Captain (53:27):
Um, I didn't write it in here, but there was something
that came up multiple timesthat apparently roger corman the
like god of cult or whateverthe fuck um apparently he was
excited to do this film and hebasically came to set for like
the first three or four days andeverybody was really really
nervous that he was likewatching them do this, all of
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this, and then apparently liketowards I don't know day three
or four he was like, okay, youguys, look like you got it.
And then he never showed upagain and they were like whew, a
big sigh of relief, because Iguess this guy, jim, doesn't do
a lot of big movies.
Not that this is a big movie,but you know it's porn, right.
Wilson (54:16):
It's like a weird mix of people like I'm surprised it
happened and ended up being theway it did.
Captain (54:20):
I don't know yeah, I, um yeah, but I did.
I did actually like it wasn'tbad, it's just um yeah, and I
thought it'd be more porny afterI read that he did soft porn,
like that's what he's known for,but I I mean there's like
teenage hookups, but I feel likewe see that in a lot of 80s
movies.
Wilson (54:40):
Oh yeah, it wasn't egregious.
Nothing felt more than like anyother 80s movie.
Captain (54:45):
Yeah, I mean, there's like the intro scene where it's
like you know, here's thingsthat are happening at the mall,
which felt like filler, eventhough you said you really liked
it.
But even then there's liketeenagers making out and I was
like.
I was like, oh no, is thisgonna be like, is this gonna be
bad?
But it really wasn't I thoughtit was.
I thought that was about tostart off with being like, oh,
(55:06):
like, this is just just gettingyou ready, warmed up yeah, yeah.
but I was like, oh no, this isjust like an 80s teen movie,
even though, like I said, noneof those kids looked like
teenagers.
Wilson (55:18):
No, they did not.
Captain (55:19):
They were adults.
Actually, maybe they're notsupposed to be teenagers because
the one couple's married.
Wilson (55:24):
Yeah, it's just a weird group of people Like you all
look the same age, but it seemslike you're in different stages
of life.
Captain (55:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not really sure.
I guess they had beer, I don'tknow.
But anyway, um, did you?
I don't know?
What do you think?
Did you like it?
Do you have a rating?
Do you have a raise your glassscene?
Um, how we feel percentage wise, I'm conflicted.
Wilson (55:51):
I think, in terms of a campy movie that mostly knows
what it is, I would say like a65.
Captain (56:01):
Oh, okay, nice, I feel like I'm going to be right
around there.
If it's a campy movie thatknows what it's doing.
Did you already put it onLetterboxd?
Wilson (56:10):
No, I haven't rated it yet.
I think, I'll give it a two anda half and I'll say I'll give
it a two and a half and I'll sayI'll give it a heart.
Captain (56:19):
What?
What does that do?
Wilson (56:21):
A heart just shows people you like it, so like you
could think a movie is like kindof a one, but you love it.
Captain (56:28):
Oh, oh, okay, I don't think I'm doing a letterbox that
way, but yeah, I think I'd givethis movie like so there's not
a big storyline, like there's alot of in my opinion filler of
like robots wiggling around andlike not actually doing anything
.
I don't know why they cut somuch out, because I feel like
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there was plenty of this stuffto cut, unless they just cut
more of the filler out, whichwould be shocking.
But it was still like I thinkI'd give it a 60 because it's
still like a story that knowswhat it's doing, entertaining in
the fact that it's funny and Ithink it knows that it's comedy.
Like, thank you, have a niceday.
(57:11):
Like girl knows.
So what did they call this atknows?
What did they call this?
What did Wikipedia call this?
Wilson (57:20):
Oh, independent techno horror, oh right, oh, which
reminds me the soundtrack wasreally good.
Captain (57:25):
Oh my gosh, yeah, I was fucking down with the sounds of
robots killing that littlesoundtrack.
You said it's on Amazon, I'mnot going to buy it.
I wish it was on amazon.
I'm not gonna buy it.
I wish it was on spotify thoughdid you look?
Wilson (57:38):
no but I can't imagine it would be on there oh, you
never know, there's like someobscure stuff on there sometimes
would it just be the choppingmall soundtrack um, I think so.
Let me see chopping.
Yeah, it looks like it's onhere wow, that's crazy one of
(58:03):
the songs is called fergie'sdead, but wasn't you say the
name is fetty or something?
Captain (58:10):
wikipedia called it ferdy with a d.
They're saying fergie with a g.
I don't know which one's rightoh well, I don't know.
Um, oh, I meant to mention solittle shop of horrors.
Like I said, is like a reallybig film in roger corman's life.
Um, apparently there's a lot oflike inside jokes in this movie
(58:31):
that that deal with him or jimor some of the characters, like
there's many easter eggs thatyou could pick up if you want to
, if you know a lot about them.
But, um, the pet shop is calledroger's little shop of pets and
it like shows you that likevery clearly, so that it's like
a homage to him?
(58:52):
um, and I just like picked up onthat because I read about it
earlier today and I was like, oh, okay, okay, um, did you have a
razor glass moment from thismovie?
Wilson (59:05):
I.
I think it has to be just thelaser beam to the head and it
explodes immediately no, thatwas pretty good do you have one
um, mine was a super random, butI laughed a lot.
Captain (59:18):
Um, so when the robots uh, come after them after c4ing,
exploding the door, and theboys are like we have to go get
weapons, they get to.
They get to the gun store andone of them goes oh man, how are
we gonna get in?
And the other one goes don'tworry, I have, I have the key.
And then he just picks up likea rock, he looks like, smashes
(59:39):
the windows and I don't knowsomething.
I just wasn't, I was takenaback.
I wasn't expecting him to makea joke and it was just.
It was just very funny.
Um, and I laughed a lot.
Um, so that was my raise aglass okay, yeah, that's a good
one.
I don't know, because most ofthe movie they're super awkward
and I was like, oh okay, you gotme yeah something about the
(01:00:01):
delivery or something caught meby surprise Because we've heard
that joke or that line beforeDefinitely.
So yeah, that was my raise aglass.
But honestly, if people werelike I want camp you my movie,
like I actually would recommend.
Wilson (01:00:18):
Okay, okay, I didn't know we'd get a recommendation
out of you I mean, I don't know,what do you?
Captain (01:00:24):
I mean, would you not recommend?
I mean I would recommend it Imean we're pretty good, um,
especially 80s camp.
It's like core 80s camp.
I didn't look up our list.
Do you know what we're doingfor?
Wilson (01:00:45):
Oh, I just had the list open.
Captain (01:00:47):
Okay, hold on hold on hold on oh damn, I can do it, I
can do it.
Uh-oh, I clicked on the wrongthing.
Wilson (01:00:54):
I just straight up, just pushed the shield out of my
face.
We are doing Deadline next.
Captain (01:01:05):
I don't know what that is.
Wilson (01:01:06):
I don't either.
Captain (01:01:08):
But it's something because I put it on here 2009.
Oh, I'm excited for the 2024film after that.
Okay, well, we're doingDeadline from 2009.
Wilson (01:01:25):
I'm curious to see how it is.
Captain (01:01:27):
Yeah, I couldn't tell you what it is.
But yeah, oh shoot, I don'tknow if I have.
I mean, I have like general.
Wilson (01:01:36):
Advice for me.
Captain (01:01:38):
Advice for you.
I mean, I feel like generally,get the fuck out of the mall
before it closes.
Wilson (01:01:50):
I feel like no, I mean, yeah, you think it's pretty
common that'll happen.
Oh, the cat fell.
Oh, do you think it's prettycommon, if they're like killer
mall robots, that you need toget out that quickly?
Or?
Captain (01:02:06):
you know, today, after this movie, um, who knows, I
feel like if they didn't watchthis movie, they would just I
mean talk about sentient,especially chat dbt.
Wilson (01:02:22):
Maybe they are killer robots that's true actually they
just put the little ai in thereit's all those um, like uh
robots from grocery stores thatlike clean up the aisles.
Oh yeah, I don't see those alot, but yeah, it's gonna be
those creepy.
Captain (01:02:39):
I don't like them actually.
Yeah, definitely, yeah, get thefuck out of there is my advice.
Get the fuck away from thoserobots.
wait, what were we saying?
Oh, als ALS.
Yes, sorry that man has ALS.
Wilson (00:27):
That sounds so insincere .
Captain (00:32):
I don't know him personally.
I don't wish it upon anyone.
They have gotten really farwith ALS ever since the Ice
Bucket Challenge.
I heard that's coming back For.
Wilson (00:45):
McSteamy no, just, no, just.
Well, I don't think so.
I think just in general thechallenge.
I don't know if it's stillrelated to alice oh what, you
can't just steal it for your?
I mean, I don't know, I I don'tknow if that's for sure, I just
haven't heard.
I heard that.
Captain (01:04):
Okay, well, I mean, I guess whatever works, but you
are kind of stealing.
Wilson (01:11):
Oh my gosh.
Now I need to look up.
Oh yep, it's back and it sayswith a new mission, but it cut
off what it's for.
Captain (01:21):
Of course it did.
It wants you to click.
Sucks to be them, because Iwent to Wikipedia, oh, a mental
health organization, that's thecurrent but I do think the ice
bucket challenge did create likea lot more um, like funding,
and therefore I hate when mycamera makes me blurry.
(01:42):
I have to like turn it off andback off.
Wilson (01:44):
I think it's focusing on your um like this thing oh,
this thing is not the maincharacter, okay do I look like a
microphone cover?
Captain (01:56):
yeah, seriously the fuck, um, but anyway, um, yeah,
he, that man does have ALS,though I forgot that.
He said that recently.
He's young, right?
I guess ALS is not an oldperson disease.
Wilson (02:16):
I don't know if he's.
Oh, okay, hold on, let's see.
Captain (02:20):
I thought he was like 40s or 50s.
Wilson (02:22):
He is 52.
See.
Captain (02:28):
Well, welcome, I'm here .
Wilson (02:31):
We here, we out here.
Captain (02:33):
I'm nuptials completed.
Wilson (02:38):
That's a fun way of saying that you're married.
Captain (02:42):
I beat the mission, yeah.
And then I went to Norway formy honeymoon and I know we've
talked about it, but there's onething we didn't talk about that
I want to talk to you about onthe podcast.
Wilson (02:53):
Okay.
Captain (02:55):
So they have a lot of.
In Norway.
They have a lot of trollmythology and history, like, um,
and so like in like uh,souvenir shops and like little
trinket stores, like there aretrolls everywhere.
Like I wasn't expecting howmuch trolls are important there.
(03:19):
Um, and we did go to like theofficial troll museum, um, which
was kind of interesting, but um, it is like I understand.
So like they have this his likemythology where like there's
like levels of trolls, likethere's the trolls that live
(03:40):
like in the underworld,basically um and um.
I feel like some of these namesyou probably have heard of, but
then they have like the trollson earth and then they have the
trolls in the like high.
They don't call it heaven, butthey call it like acer or
(04:01):
something, but it's like asgard.
So like they have the asgardworld which you know, you hear
about in the war, um, but yeah,they just, I don't know, they
have like so like that's asgard.
And then there's like midgard,which is like the world of
humans, and then okay the worldof the dead is called hellheim,
(04:26):
um, but yeah, they just havelike these, like this troll
thing, and I think it'sinteresting uh is this all like?
Wilson (04:33):
is asgard?
Is that from norwegianmythology, or did?
They adopt it somewhere okay Ithink so.
Captain (04:40):
I think, um, but yeah, like they just have this
interesting troll museum wherethey talk about how trolls are
the basis of the universe andthere's a troll for basically
every.
It's almost like in Romanmythology with deities, where
there was a god for everything.
It's kind of like there's atroll for everything, but they
(05:00):
don't give you the sun and therain, not like that.
It's just like they guardthings or they protect, like
land, or they're like eat humansto protect something.
Um, and I just the mostinteresting part of the museum I
(05:21):
thought was that I understandwhy they have this mythology,
because there are like multiplerock formations in Norway that
literally look like trolls,which are cool.
I guess I should have pulled upthe pictures, like I just have
pictures on my phone, I feellike you can't, but like that's
a rock formation.
Wilson (05:41):
Oh, that does look trollish.
Captain (05:43):
Right, but it's like literally how a rock formed um
so that one's called the trollwho lost his hat, and it's a
rock formation that looks like atroll on a mountain who does
not have his hat anymore.
Um, and after he looked he waslooking for it.
The myth is that he on a cloudyday he lost his hat.
He went, I'm sorry.
(06:06):
He came out one night wearing abig hat and he heard a rumor to
find some golden treasure.
He went looking for that goldentreasure and after many wasted
hours he sat on a mountain peakand then the strong wind took
his hat.
The midnight sun shone in thesky and I guess that turned him
(06:32):
into stone, so that's why he'sstuck there.
And then there's another trollrock formation.
Here's like another picture ofanother one.
Wilson (06:42):
That one looks old.
Captain (06:44):
Yeah, it is, I can't, I don't know.
It's another picture of anotherone.
That one looks old.
Yeah, it is, I don't know.
It's like weird.
But yeah, this one's called theTroll of Bysfoyard, okay, but
they had like six or seven ofthese.
I only took a couple pictures,but I don't know.
(07:04):
I was like like, oh, there'srock formations that look like
trolls and they're like probablythousands of years old.
Wilson (07:09):
Like that I can see where we're coming from so are
you saying like all norsemythology was based on these
rocks that look like trolls?
Captain (07:21):
I think a lot of it probably was.
But if this was like from along time ago and you don't know
how science works, like I getit fair, but like probably is
that troll bitch rock over there, like especially if they do a
lot of.
So they do a lot of like, uh,seafaring and fishing there and
it's like if, uh, the seacaptured, you know, if people
(07:47):
didn't come back because the seawas like really rough, be like
it's probably those trolls overthere that took them okay, I see
what point yeah like that's howpeople made up sea monsters I
still have questions, but well,it's a very old mythology that's
been around for a really longtime old.
(08:07):
Wow, that's rude it's just beenthere, but um.
The museum was, um, I think,more targeted towards children,
but it was kind of cool and Ifeel like you'd like there.
No, these are like literallylike the troll, doll trolls, but
(08:29):
more scary.
Wilson (08:32):
Okay so not literally the troll dolls.
Captain (08:34):
No, I didn't, that was a lie.
Some of the trinket, likesouvenirs, are more like the
troll doll trolls.
But the museum itself, like thepictures they have of what they
consider trolls, are like scarytrolls.
Wilson (08:49):
Oh, okay.
Captain (08:52):
Not all scary, but a lot of them are.
Wilson (08:55):
That reminds me of a movie I need to put on our watch
list.
Captain (08:58):
Is it Trolls?
Wilson (08:59):
No, but actually that would be an excellent choice.
I'm surprised we haven'twatched that yet.
Captain (09:10):
I mean, I've seen it.
Wilson (09:12):
Sorry, like.
Captain (09:14):
For the podcast.
Wilson (09:16):
Yeah, the podcast, I'm going to put it on here.
We're going to have a TrollsWeek.
We're going to do that one andYou're killing me.
The one I didn't say out loud.
Oh, now I remember Okay.
Captain (09:31):
You're killing me, okay .
And then the other thing I feellike this is going to gross you
out.
But the other thing I want totalk about and this is only
because I just randomly saw thison a social media post but have
you ever heard of the commonSuriname toad?
(09:52):
No, okay, it's a type of frogthat's fully aquatic and it is
from um northern africa areas,um, but it has a very
interesting reproductive cyclein which the mother, um her back
(10:22):
becomes, uh, covered in all ofher egg sacs and literally her
skin like becomes where the eggsgrow and like baby frogs like
burst out of her skin when theyare ready and it is like super
weird.
You can like literally see likegifs of the frogs, like videos
(10:45):
of the frogs like popping out ofher back I'm intrigued, but
also gross they hatch in small,like as small toads, looking
identical to the parents, andthey like, they like, pop out
the back, um, and and yeah, it'slike really fucking weird and
(11:07):
there's like pictures of it thatare nasty it sounds disgusting,
but I'm still intrigued are youlooking it up?
Wilson (11:20):
no, I don't know if I'm ready for it right now, but I am
intrigued.
You should take a look.
I don't know if I'm ready forit right now, but I am intrigued
.
Captain (11:25):
Well, you should take a look.
I don't think there's any other.
I think they're one of a kind.
Oh yeah, you can watch a reallygreat minute video from Nat Geo
.
Wilson (11:37):
What's this called again ?
Captain (11:40):
The Surinam Toad the Surinam Toad, the common Surinam
toad the Surinam toad.
I just saw that and I was likewhat that's like, that
trypophobia thing.
Yes, that is exactly what it'sreminding me of.
If you don't like a bunch ofholes, you're really not going
(12:05):
to like that.
I guess I should have probablytrigger warning.
Wilson (12:09):
It's fine.
Captain (12:10):
But she's here, she's ready.
Wilson (12:14):
Let's bring us in.
Captain (12:15):
Oh, I did actually open a Florida Seltz, I know.
Wilson (12:21):
It's a strawberry kiwi.
I haven't had that one.
Captain (12:25):
It's pretty goodwi.
I haven't had that one.
It's pretty good.
I just have a LaCroix.
Wilson (12:38):
Okay Are you ready for our cookie, cookie spooky.
Captain (12:42):
Yes, Now I want cookies , but yes.
Okay, welcome to the 168thepisode of the Red Room Podcast,
where we review horror movieswhile enjoying an adult beverage
or two.
Wilson (12:54):
And I'm Captain, and I'm Wilson.
Captain (12:55):
And this week we're reviewing the 1986 American
independent techno-horror filmChopping Mall.
I don't really know why theywould call it a techno I mean
that soundtrack though oh, liketechnology horror.
Is that what that means?
I, I don't know, couldn't tellyou so I looked this up a long
(13:16):
time ago and put it on our listof kooks, um like, we try to do
one cookie a season or more, butI did not look at the details
of this movie until literally afew hours ago.
So it was directed by JimWynorski and he is known for
(13:37):
soft porn, mostly known for softporn.
He has done some creature films.
He did have this um run ofdoing like more recently like
child like dinosaur films, umlike, and he did some with like,
(13:58):
uh, a dog who's like an air airpilot or something wow, he just
does whatever the hell he wants, doesn't he?
yeah, it's like real, I don'tknow.
He's got a, it's eclectic.
Give you that.
Um, he did do return of theswamp thing in 1989.
I wrote 1889.
(14:19):
He did Ghoulies number four in94.
Okay, he really likes to do alot of erotic movies, so I did
not know that.
Wilson (14:32):
I was looking over his movie titles and one of them
made me laugh.
It's the Bear Wench Project.
Captain (14:41):
He has a really famous soft porn erotic movie called
like the Breastwick of something.
Wilson (14:47):
Okay.
Captain (14:47):
It came up multiple times when I was looking him up.
Yeah, he does a couple pun ones.
There's a lot of pun ones.
So if that's what you're in themood for, jim's gotcha um,
jim's gotcha um.
It was also produced by roger.
(15:09):
Are you still looking at movietitles?
Wilson (15:13):
I'm gonna close it out continue oh, it was also.
Captain (15:16):
I mean, I'll take a fun one, I don't know um.
It was also produced by rogercorman, slash julie, his wife.
But roger corman is like a hugename in hollywood.
He is known as various monikers, such as the pope of pop cinema
, the spiritual godfather of newhollywood or the king of cult.
(15:41):
He was known as the trailblazerin the world of independent
films, so he produced a lot ofthem, um, like greenlit, a lot
of independent films, and hebasically like changed the
industry so that independentfilms could be like more
mainstream well, I've neverheard of him well, you're not in
the biz yet.
Wilson (16:01):
Okay, let's see all right, let's give it a couple
weeks yeah, let's see how thishershey movie comes through.
Captain (16:09):
Then maybe you'll heard of mr corman himself okay, okay
okay, so roger corman likeproduced this movie and like
greenlit it, so that meanssomething, kid sure um, there's
a fucking cast for this movieand I'm not gonna get into like
(16:32):
all of them, but, um, there'slike what, four couples
basically, um, that are supposedto be teenagers but they do not
look like teenagers.
But so it's like four girls andfour boys, and most of them
haven't been in a ton of stuff.
(16:53):
But the main one of them, kellyMaroney, plays Allison.
She was in Fast Times atRidgemont High and she was in a
soap opera called Ryan's Hope,but she also pairs up with Jim
Wynorski a lot.
I think she's very pleasantlyokay with erotic scenes,
(17:24):
apparently.
And then her partner in thefilm, tony odell, plays ferdy um
, and he's mostly, he's probablythe one of the most known names
.
He is in cobra kai, or sorry,he's one of the cobra kai
members in the karate kid um,and he was, uh, in a couple of
(17:44):
those movies.
Yeah.
Wilson (17:50):
I have never seen Karate Kid.
Captain (17:53):
Ugh.
Ugh I feel like it's.
I feel like how did you not seethat movie?
Wilson (17:59):
I don't know.
Captain (18:01):
I feel like everybody's seen that movie at some point.
Wilson (18:05):
You've seen it.
Captain (18:06):
Yes, you've seen it.
Yes, I've seen it multipletimes.
All right, okay.
And then there's that guydoesn't really do anything.
And then Suze.
Oh, I did it again.
Suze, played by BarbaraCrampton, is probably one of the
most known people.
She was known for doing a lotof soap operas.
(18:27):
So Days of Our Lives, the Youngand the Restless, the Bold and
the Beautiful.
She was in Re-Animator andshe's in From Beyond.
Okay, I know that we did themovie From Beyond.
Could not tell you what thatmovie's about.
I squelched it already becauseI wasn't sure if we did the
movie.
Wilson (18:46):
Okay.
Captain (18:46):
So it was 1.43.
Could not tell you a singlething about that movie.
I have no idea.
Wilson (18:54):
Oh, okay, I just looked it up.
Yes, you will remember thismovie if you have not looked it
up yet.
As soon as you what?
Captain (19:01):
is it?
Wilson (19:02):
I did Google Images from knew me it was the guy that had
like the, the forehead dick andlike it was oh, how could I
forget?
Captain (19:14):
yes, okay, that brings it back um.
Yeah, and she was inducted intothe rondo hatton classic horror
awards monster kid hall of famesounds completely made up I
don't know, but it was last year, 2024 she got inducted props to
(19:35):
barbara.
Um, and then, who the fuck ismary in this movie?
Mary?
Is that one of the?
Is that the girl?
Wilson (19:49):
oh, I think it's the brunette, because there's that
one couple that were just likemarried no because there's paul
bland and mary bland yeah, Ithink they're Wait what.
Captain (20:05):
Oh no, that was Linda.
Wilson (20:09):
What are you talking about?
Captain (20:10):
That girl in the movie.
Her name was Linda.
Wilson (20:14):
I don't know who the hell Paul and Mary Bland are.
Captain (20:16):
Then I don't remember siblings, I think they're that
couple in the very beginning,when they're watching the
trailer for the robots, andthere's those two people talking
to each other.
The couple is talking.
They're like making peanutgallery comments about the
robots.
Wilson (20:36):
Yeah, wasn't that?
The weren't those the peoplethat ended up in the mall and
they were married.
Captain (20:43):
No, I'm talking about the older couple, like next
generation couple.
I don't remember them at allthere's like a lady in a red
dress and she's talking to herhusband about the robots and
they're like how much would this?
Wilson (20:56):
cost, oh yes, while they're in the mall seeing the
presentation yeah, I think it'sthose two people.
Oh, oh, okay, that makes senseyeah so we don't get their names
.
You don't even have Lindalisted here.
Captain (21:10):
Yeah, I don't think she was in a lot.
Paul and Mary not reallyimportant characters in this
film, but Mary is a cult filmstar because she's worked in a
lot of Roger Corman films andAndy Warhol films and she's in
House of the Devil, which we didnot do that movie Not to be
(21:33):
mixed up with.
I Trapped the Devil.
Are you thinking we did Houseof the Devil?
I think I saw that movie.
I think I'm fairly certain Isaw this movie.
Wilson (21:45):
I think I'm fairly certain I saw this movie.
Captain (21:49):
Yeah, same.
Wilson (21:52):
Are you sure we didn't do it?
Captain (21:55):
We might have done it, but I didn't think we did.
I thought I was mixing it upwith.
I Trapped the Devil, we did seeHouse of the Devil.
Wilson (22:02):
It was episode 51.
I Trapped the Devil.
We did see House of the Devil.
It was episode 51.
I Trapped the Devil was 163.
Captain (22:09):
Girl 51?
I couldn't tell you anythingabout it.
Wilson (22:14):
I couldn't tell you.
Yeah, if you look up GoogleImages, it's familiar.
Captain (22:20):
Brings you back.
Wilson (22:21):
Well, I don't know about that.
Captain (22:23):
Okay, and the last person that actually has done
stuff I think walter is thejanitor that gets killed, played
by dick miller, and he's done alot of stuff.
He was in little shop ofhorrors a um roger corman film,
the howling Gremlins, theTerminator, gremlins 2.
(22:44):
But he, yeah, he's like themost known actor in this film.
He's only in it for like twominutes.
Oh yeah, but Little Shop ofHorrors, speaking of, is like
(23:08):
the main film that got Rogergercorman on the map because it was
seen as like a very uh weird,like indie culty film and it did
really well and it was likefrom the 1960s, so that like got
him, got him on the map, okay,um, yeah, so, like I said, this
film mostly revolves around, uh,four couples, so like eight
kids, but they all work at thispark plaza mall, um, and it
(23:32):
starts off with giving you, thepark plaza has decided to
instate these state-of-the-artsecurity system, but it's just
like these R2-D2 robots, butwith a lot more guns.
Yeah, tranquilizers, tasers,Tranquilizers yeah, yeah, yeah,
(23:55):
and they're supposed to.
What was the word?
Neutralize the criminals?
Wilson (24:01):
Yes, not kill them, just keep them captive till the
police can come yeah, and it'ssupposedly supposed to make them
the safest mall in america.
Captain (24:09):
Um, but shortly after, like literally the night they're
instated, um, there was athunderstorm and it looks like
the lightning like surged outthe power or something and
fucked with their power or theiryeah, for some reason the
computer main system was outsideum and it got struck by
(24:34):
lightning and it caused therobots to be bad yeah, I don't
think.
Does wikipedia even mention that?
Oh yeah, it does, I see.
Oh yeah, and there are threerobots Protector 1, 2, and 3.
And then we get introduction tothe kids.
(24:55):
So there is Allison and Susie.
They are waitresses at apizzeria in the mall and then
their boyfriends work in like afurniture store or something in
the mall, and then theirboyfriends work in like a
furniture store or something atthe mall.
Ferdy and Greg Never got Greg'sname.
They're also friends with Rickand Linda, told you Linda.
Wilson (25:16):
I'm not going to remember any of these names.
Captain (25:18):
Those are the married couple that are mechanics, I
think.
And then Mike and Leslie.
Oh yeah, those are the onesthat died first.
Spoiler Sorry, mike and Leslie.
So they're like all kind ofgetting ready for Susie's party
(25:40):
and Allison is actually.
It says that Freddie is herboyfriend, but she's actually
kind of nervous to meet himbecause she's being set up as a
blind date.
But really like quickly.
I mean they're really just hereto like dance awkwardly and
like fuck on the couches.
Wilson (25:57):
Way too close to each other.
It's nasty.
Captain (26:01):
There's really not a party happening.
Like they say party's reallynot a party happening.
They say party, this is not aparty.
They are just fucking on thefurniture in the value furniture
store in the mall.
Wilson (26:16):
Well, two of them are just watching a movie.
Captain (26:19):
Yeah, the Allison and Ferdy, who were set up as a
first date, are not doing that,while three other couples have
sex on the beds.
Literally right there, rightthere.
And then we get the.
We also get the scene of the.
So Marty, who was the guy thatwas working in the back where
(26:40):
the robots were, as soon as theyget struck with lightning, the
robots are like it's time.
Get struck with lightning, like, the robots are like it's time
to kill.
So they kill marty, and thenthe next security guard comes in
there afterwards.
Marty's nowhere to be found.
I'm like they eat him.
His body's gone, um, and thenthey just kill the next guy, um,
and then they're basically likeready for their mission.
(27:02):
So so they're like protectorone, two and three dispersed
onto levels of the mall one, twoand three.
So after these kids are likefucking or whatever, one of them
Rick maybe Leaves I don't thinkit's Rick.
Wilson (27:21):
It's a chewing.
Can we just call him ChewingGum?
Captain (27:23):
Chewing Gum leaves to go get cigarettes.
And the crazy part about thismovie which I feel like you
don't see a lot there is nobuildup to the kills.
It is like.
Wilson (27:35):
We jump right in.
Captain (27:37):
Like there's no suspense, there's no like, oh,
maybe they'll get away.
It's like, no, they just,they're just, it's killing.
Now it's it's very weird to seebecause like when you see a
campy movie, you're expecting, Idon't know a little, I don't
know, like carnival-ish fun.
But you get none of that.
It's like, and we're killing um.
(27:58):
So he got chewing gums, gettingcigarettes and like,
immediately killed.
Wilson (28:05):
So it's interesting, they knock him out and then kill
him, which seems weirdly humane.
Captain (28:13):
I was confused because I thought he was tased, but then
it's like oh no, he's mostlydecapitated, yeah.
So yeah, I thought he wasstunned, but, yeah, his
girlfriend comes looking for himand she's she does a good
scream queen when she finds himdead.
Um, but then she is beingchased by the robot.
(28:35):
Um, lasered her fucking headstraight off fantastic scene uh,
really good scene.
Um lasered her whole fuckinghead off in front of all of her
friends.
Um, and they're like, oh fuck,and like I can't explain to you
how much there is no suspense.
Build up the robots like let itgo from blasting that girl's
(28:55):
head off to immediately breakingthrough the glass of the store
that these kids are in and justtracing them down, like they
don't waste no time, no time,yeah and so the kids are like
screaming, they like run to theback, they try to get themselves
um like protected behind someother wall.
Does not care, the robots arejust gonna laser their way
(29:17):
through um, but they do get thegirls the three girls that are
alive up into the air shaft, andthey were gonna like climb to
the parking garage.
Wilson (29:26):
I guess to get help.
This is also where we find outthe robots also have c4 um for
some reason important for mallprotection.
Yes, yes, uh, but like as youwere saying, the girls all go in
the air duct to get to thegarage, which they don't make it
there they do not make it there.
Captain (29:45):
It's hot as fuck up there.
Um, there's some thoughtprocess that the robots are uh,
like can read their minds, orlike they have intelligent
thoughts, I don't know.
Um, but yeah, they literallyare like oh, you guys are hiding
behind like a security door orwhatever, no problem, and they
just blow that bitch up withsome c4 again, just like last
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movie.
There is quite an explosionbudget, um, but yeah, so the
three boys don't die.
They make their way out andthey're like we're gonna go to
the weapons store so they getlike hunting guns.
Um, clearly none of these menhave ever shot a gun before.
They are the worst aim LikeI've never seen aiming this bad
(30:32):
in a movie.
They can't shoot anything Like.
Wilson (30:36):
They cannot like hit anything, they eventually get
there.
Captain (30:41):
Allison gets there because her father's a marine,
but it's not good.
Um, and then, after they getthe guns, they figure out that
if they use a propane tank foran explosion, they can kill
another robot well, maybe killit that's true, it did have
(31:02):
goopy noises, but I don't knowif that was.
Wilson (31:04):
They don't show us.
Captain (31:05):
And yeah, I think it was added in added in after
maybe it was a defense mechanismthat the robot had like oh,
humans will think that I'm dead,but again important to have a
defense mechanism for um, so,yes, he, uh, oh, what, yes, and
(31:27):
then around the same, I meant tomention so the janitor, he
kills the janitor.
I think around the same timeactually, I think it's like the
first kill, I meant are thesemovies related because they kill
the janitors?
Wilson (31:38):
is that the the underlying theme of these two
episodes?
Captain (31:42):
Yeah, that's.
Wilson (31:49):
Dick Miller.
Captain (31:49):
Yeah, the guy, but he was electrocuted with paint
somehow.
I don't know.
Wilson (31:55):
I think it was just a dirty bucket of water and the
water like, oh, it was justreally dirty water.
It was really nasty.
It looked like milk or likechocolate milk.
Captain (32:04):
Oh, he did say somebody , maybe it was really nasty.
Wilson (32:05):
It looked like milk or like chocolate milk.
Captain (32:06):
Oh, he did say somebody .
Maybe they spilled like milk orice cream or something.
Wilson (32:09):
Anyway, he kept washing the floor with that, but
whatever.
Captain (32:12):
Yeah, it's nasty, but have you ever walked around a
mall food court and the floorhas been like clean, like it's
always like a little sticky orthere's french fries?
Wilson (32:27):
Yeah, like it's always like a little sticky, or there's
french fries, yeah, and even ifit didn't feel sticky, I would
I would never assume it wasclean.
Captain (32:32):
Yeah, it's got the milk , the milk the milk haze on it
yeah um, yeah, so anyway, he is,has mop water bucket and he's
yelling at this robot becauseit's asking for his badge
security.
But I just like that.
It electrocutes him and thenthe robot quickly says thank you
(32:52):
, have a good day, have a niceday.
And the robot just keeps doingthat.
Whenever it killed somebody,not only do you get no suspense
build up, it immediately killspeople and then it gives you
this hysterical line of thankyou, have a nice day oh yeah um,
which is just great.
Like you're, like you're justlaughing through the movie
because it's just so ridiculous,um, but anyway.
(33:14):
So they guys have the guns andthe girls come out of the air
ducts because suzy is likepanicking that it's way too
fucking hot in there.
Um, so when they girls jump outof the air ducts because Susie
is panicking that it's way toofucking hot in there.
So when the girls jump out ofthe air duct, they're still in
the mall and they decide to makealso bombs.
I don't know.
They're putting towels, soakingtowels in gas cans.
(33:40):
Why are there so many gas cansand propane tanks in this
fucking mall?
Wilson (33:44):
I mean, I guess there was a sports goods store where
they got guns.
Captain (33:49):
Yeah, but I've been to Dick's Sporting Goods.
I don't remember seeing it likethis.
Wilson (33:52):
I mean damn, this is what the 80s that's true.
Captain (33:58):
So they're like arming themselves with that.
Allison was smart and grabs aflare, which nobody else does.
She should have said something.
But fuck those friends, I guess.
But after they kind of like getthemselves armed, one of the
robots that they thought theykilled, he's like back online
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and I think that's the one thatthe girls try to light on fire
when they're trying to get likepast it.
And um, susie, quickly, uh getslit on fire with the fire that
they cause and she like burnsalive.
She's screaming for a long timeand her friends are like we
have to help her, but then theydon't help her at all.
(34:43):
Yeah, they literally are like no, sis, we're not coming over
there at all.
Wilson (34:47):
They would have been fine if she didn't urge them to
get out of the air duct.
Captain (34:52):
That's true.
So you're saying Susie deservedit, it's her fault.
Wilson (34:55):
Yeah.
Captain (34:59):
I was just like I get it that Susie got shot in the
leg and she was like I, I know Ican't walk, but she doesn't
even try to move a lot like it's.
She's on fire and she's likenot trying to like.
Just because you're shot in theleg doesn't mean you can like,
not, you can't like roll aroundto put the fire out.
Wilson (35:15):
I mean yeah it stopped drop and roll, something that
came out after 1986 or whateverI, yeah, I don't know I, but if
she wasn't caught on fire, therobot might have caught up to
them faster and killed all ofthem oh, so she was a sacrifice
yeah, so the saint suzy saintsuzy had her nips out earlier in
(35:40):
the film didn't she compare.
Captain (35:43):
Didn't she like make a pizza reference pepperoni, it
was pepperoni it was a pepperonijoke and I was like that's
never gonna.
If anything, that's an ick girl, I don't know, even though her
boyfriend was in on it.
He was like I like pizza.
I was like get the fuck out ofhere.
There are way too many peoplein this room for you to start
bringing out your kinks out.
Wilson (36:02):
Yeah, we don't.
Captain (36:03):
Nobody else needs to hear that yeah, and everybody's
in the room hearing it.
It's crazy, um, but anyway, umside note.
Okay, do you remember?
I remember being in preschool,so this is like earlier than
five years old and learning.
Stop drop and and roll I feellike we talked about stop, drop
(36:27):
and roll way too many times forme to never have to pull it out.
I feel like stop, drop and rollwas going to become very
important in my life by how manytimes we discussed it, I don't
know.
I mean I guess it's good that Iknow that, but I mean I guess
it's good I've never had to useit, but they talk about it a lot
it's a lot.
Wilson (36:47):
It's a lot.
I'm thankful I've never had touse it, but wow I.
How often are they lightingkids on fire?
Captain (36:54):
I know I'm like when does this come up to the point
where I needed to learn this?
Like a fucking song that goesalong with it.
Like what?
Yeah um, anyway, well, suzydidn't learn it, I guess no, she
did not um, yes, but suzy diesand her boyfriend rick is not
(37:16):
doing well he is, so theyregroup the boys and the girls.
Wilson (37:22):
Yeah.
Captain (37:22):
But Rick is sad and stressed and he's not doing well
and he's kind of like crazy.
So he like I don't know exactlywhat he says, but he basically
like runs off and was like I'mgoing to kill him.
Wilson (37:42):
Yeah, because that always works out so well.
Captain (37:44):
Yeah, he doesn't.
Um, he, I think he walked awayfor this moment to get another
drink or whatever, but he likequickly gets himself like yeeted
off of, like the third floor,like the walkway, the balconies
that like looked out on all theother floors.
Yeah, one of the robots justshoves him off the side with its
(38:05):
robot arms.
Actually you get an image ofhim from the top floor and his
neck is cracked to the side andhis arms broken behind him and
he's covered in the worstlooking fake blood I've seen in
a long time.
But he's dead, so he's notdoing well, I cannot explain how
(38:30):
much.
There is no buildup to thesemurders, but anyway, now there's
four kids left, so we haveAllison and Ferdy and the
married couple, linda andsomebody.
And they decide okay, what weshould really do is go to the
computer room, because that'swhat's controlling the robots
(38:51):
from there, so we can go thereand we can turn their power off.
Let's just do that.
And they say that.
But then they don't immediatelygo and do that, which I was
confused about, because thenthey do this other plan where
they're like with the mannequins.
I guess the robots are chasingthem.
Wilson (39:08):
Maybe that's why, yeah, but I don't think they even end
up in the computer room.
Captain (39:17):
No, they don't think they even end up in the computer
room.
No, they don't.
They bring it up twice.
They don't really end up thereconfusing um, but they do make
their way to another store wherethere's um mannequins and like
a mirror, and they basically setthe robots up to attack the
mannequins for targets.
(39:38):
And then there's like a mirrorbehind the mannequins.
So when they pull this drapeoff, the laser that the robots
are shooting ends up shootingback at the robot, so it kills
the robot, kind of yeah.
Wilson (39:50):
I don't really get that part, but.
Captain (39:53):
The lasers are also like really um low budget yeah,
I mean they look okay from 1986,but I don't know.
We've watched 80s movies wherethe special effects look way
better, but this is a low budgetfilm, so yeah, that's fine so
the robot is like nowelectrified, and this is where
(40:14):
the one guy dies.
Yeah, One of the lasers thatbounces off the mirrors hits
Linda.
She's gone.
And then Linda's boyfriend Idon't know what he was doing,
but he drives one of thoselittle like mechanical
maintenance.
Wilson (40:33):
Yeah.
Some kind of little cartHonestly, I don't know what it's
for like the mall carts.
Captain (40:37):
I feel like I've seen those in malls before, but it
just he just drives it directlyinto the robot, not really sure
what's going on here?
he also becomes electrified andthen dies yeah, but the robot
also dies, I guess oh yeah, andthen I should mention so.
So that's one robot down.
They killed one robot shortlybefore this in a propane
explosion.
(40:58):
They really killed it this timein like an elevator shaft
propane explosion.
So there's one robot left,right, left, and they're like
okay, now let's go to thecomputer and they separate,
(41:22):
which I never understand.
Why they split up.
I never get it.
They always say like let'ssplit up for blah, blah, blah.
I'm like you're dumb.
Wilson (41:30):
I guess this is where they're looking for the computer
room, but like she ends updigging around in a closet.
Captain (41:36):
Yeah, again, I don't know.
She was nowhere near thecomputer room, but I guess
Protector 2 and 3 are dead.
So Protector 1 is still aliveand he corners Allison in her
little closet, digging and she'sscreaming, but I think she gets
(41:57):
.
Oh, is this when she runs intothe pet store?
Wilson (42:00):
she does hide there at some point.
Yeah, oh, she does the paintwell, she's in a pet store and
then maybe right after that iswhen she goes to the paint store
yeah.
Captain (42:09):
So she's in a pet store and there are puppies in there.
I was very nervous, even thoughI know I double checked our
movie list.
Triple checked.
I was like there better not beany death here.
But she basically gets coveredin snakes and spiders and has to
stay quiet.
Her reaction after the robotleaves and she just like gets
off and shakes them off.
(42:30):
I was like this is so awkward.
I don't, because like normallyyou would see her like freak out
after she could freak out andlike make noise, but it's almost
like they left an extendedcouple of seconds in that cut
because she just like gets up.
It's almost like she's notacting yeah, she like shakes
them off and walks off camera.
I'm just like, why did youleave this clip in here?
(42:52):
It was very weird, um.
But then she makes it to oh,and then we see ferdy gets um
knocked out.
So you think he's dead so Ialso think she's by herself.
Um, and she was like, okay, fuckthis, I'm gonna make a another
explosion bomb.
So she like puts a bunch ofpaint on the ground.
Wilson (43:12):
I didn't really understand what that was for I
think it's, and with paintthinner, I think it's really
flammable, even though I don'treally understand is flammable.
That part was like I.
Captain (43:22):
I thought paint thinner was flammable but I was like
why the paint?
Wilson (43:24):
I mean she's, maybe she's dumb or and also paint.
Captain (43:28):
Back then was flammable probably, probably, um, she
also had so much time like shehad.
She opened like a dozencontainers.
I was like how far away is thisfucking robot?
Wilson (43:43):
because I know they're fast.
We have seen them like barelyoutrun them we've seen them
barely outrun them.
Captain (43:49):
We've seen the robots sneak up on people even though
they make the largest screamingmechanical noises.
Yeah, somehow they can besilent sometimes if they want to
.
I was like, okay girl, sheliterally had like 20 minutes to
just dick around and open cansin there, um, but she opens them
all, she gets the robot trappedin there and then she lights
the paint and paint thinner onfire um big paint explosion
(44:14):
store and that finally destroysthe last robot protector
protector.
Um, so allison is alive, butshe's definitely hurt and she's
like limping out as, I guess,daylight appears because they've
been trapped in the mall allnight.
Um, and then she sees that fredalive, ferdy's alive, ferdy,
(44:36):
her little boy.
Wilson (44:37):
He's caring for his head wound with toilet paper.
Captain (44:39):
Yes, he is.
And then they get out.
Oh, there's a post-creditsscene.
Wilson (44:48):
Yeah, we did not stay around for that.
Captain (44:51):
I fast-forwarded through a lot of it, I mean
Anyway.
Wilson (44:55):
It might even be a video no visual.
Captain (44:59):
Okay, there's post-credit scene that says a
fourth unknown protector saysit's cut phrase have a nice day,
one last time I don't feel likethat's hinting at a fourth
protector.
I feel like that's just just afunny line from the movie yep
yeah, yeah, I pretty much afterevery single death, they say
thank you, have a nice day,which is just very comical also
(45:22):
at one point.
Okay, these are huge robotswith like um, like uh conveyor
belt treads or yeah, like oneach side yeah, and at one point
, one of them comes up anescalator.
I was like, sir, you are notfitting on the step of an
escalator, like they don't showthe bottom of him because
there's no fucking way he'sgetting on an escalator and not
(45:45):
working, um, but yes, the movieis very campy and it's funny, um
, but I like that.
Compared to the other reallykooky, campy movies we've done,
this one has like more, uh,production value, like based on
versus lamageddon well, yeaheven um killer sofa like um
(46:10):
thanks.
Killing like this has betterproduction value than a lot of
this, so am I hearing somecompliments for this movie.
This movie is funny.
It's not bad if you're like wasit entertaining?
Yes, it's not scary, but it'sfunny and campy okay um, like
(46:38):
the rotten tomatoes score is a55 and a 39, which is like not
that bad for a horror moviethat's actually.
Wilson (46:45):
Yeah, that's pretty good I know this movie.
Captain (46:48):
I couldn't find a box office.
The budget was very limited.
It it says $800,000 total, butit didn't have great box office
success.
But according to Jim the moviedid super well when it made its
way to VHS and there's a quoteof him saying you couldn't walk
into a blockbuster in the late80s without seeing many copies
(47:14):
of Chopping Mall apparently.
Wilson (47:15):
Wow.
Captain (47:15):
We wouldn't know what that was like, but that's what
he says.
So it made a lot more money,apparently, when it went to VHS.
Yeah, Did you want to hear somehot goose?
Oh, yeah.
Wilson (47:32):
I do.
Did you want to hear some hotgoose?
Captain (47:33):
Hell yeah, I do so.
When Norski Jim said he wasinspired by the 1954 54 film Gog
no fucking idea.
He said he never saw the 1973TV film Trapped, which some
believed Inspired Chopping Mall.
(47:54):
But I haven't seen either oneof those.
I don't know anything aboutthose.
Wilson (47:58):
No, I probably won't watch them, but I am curious.
Captain (48:02):
Yeah, I feel like, but I don't know if I've heard of
Gog or I've just heard ofsomething.
I mean, it's just not a word,so it just sounds like a noise.
I feel like it's probably thenoise that the robot makes Like
I don't know protect our oneyeah okay, and then the film was
intended to be shot on thelocation at the beverly center,
(48:25):
which is in la, and you probablyhave seen that mall before.
Like it's pretty famous, but itwas.
There's a much larger fee tofilm in that mall, so instead
they filmed in the sherman oaksgalleria, which is also in la,
but that mall is much cheaper tofilm in and it was where the
fast times at ridge mount highwas filmed.
But they still use the beverlycenter as the exterior shots for
(48:49):
the mall in this movie.
Um, so, yeah, apparently the umowner, or like the yeah, I guess
the owner or the manager of theum sherman oaks galleria was
apparently like really on boardwith this film and was excited
about it.
Um, he's probably just somebodythat was into movies because he
(49:11):
let multiple movies film there,even though security there kept
telling him that this movie islike like damaging things.
Um, he was like, no, it's fine.
Um, and as I was watching thisand I, after I read that quote,
I was like there are like sparksin the film and there's
definitely like a lot of smokehappening yeah, and like I don't
(49:33):
see how this wouldn't damageeven like the carpets, or I mean
they're playing in an elevatorshaft at one point.
I'm like I don't know, they'rebreaking a lot of glass, even if
it's like movie glass, like youstill have to clean all of that
oh yeah like I can see thathappening, but I don't know.
I guess the manager was likeit's fine, they're making a
(49:54):
movie, what do you want me to do?
Um, so yeah, and then I thinkthis is interesting apparently
they made this movie and thenthey put it out to a test
audience and the original titlewas was kill bots?
Um, but it tested really poorly, so they cut over 15 minutes of
the movie out and then theyretitled it to be better suited
(50:19):
for a larger audience.
Wilson (50:20):
Why make it shorter?
Was there too much conversationaround kill bots in the movie?
Captain (50:26):
I swear to fucking God, they probably took all of the
suspense out.
That's what it feels like,because we have no suspense and
it's just and we're killing Likethere's no build-up.
Um yeah, but apparently theytook over 15 minutes out.
Um, I don't know.
I don't know what they took out.
It's just, that's what it says.
Kill boss is not a good name,like chopping no name but, um,
(50:48):
the.
It's not a correct name, likeeven the title or the iconic
cover of the movie and the adcampaign there's like a
mechanical claw gripping, like abloody shopping bag that has a
decapitated head in the bag andlike that is not realistic to
what the movie is fair enoughyeah, it's really not.
(51:12):
I mean, it catches you but, yeah, but I think the original movie
, non-truncated, might be morereal Like, might be more what
that movie poster is, and Ithink the movie might have made
a little bit more sense with thefull cut.
(51:34):
Yeah, but this cat.
Wilson (51:34):
I see the movie might have made a little bit more
sense with the full cut.
Yeah, but this cat I see thecat.
Captain (51:39):
I see the cat.
Don't let them cut your cords.
Wilson (51:44):
Oh yeah, it should be fine.
Captain (51:46):
Yeah.
Wilson (51:50):
Yeah, but I honestly, even though the movie was cut, I
still really liked it.
Captain (51:55):
So yeah, I just wish there was like.
Yeah, like I said, I just wishthere was like a little bit more
.
Are they going to kill him orhow are they going to kill him
and it's like we're killing.
I don't know what to tell you.
And then the last thing for thespecial effects.
So excluding the laser beams,which I like that they mentioned
that.
So excluding the laser beams,which I like that they mentioned
(52:17):
that most of what you see theKillbots do are actually
remote-controlled via theeffects crew.
Wilson (52:22):
Oh really, the laser beams were not real.
Captain (52:24):
Yeah, but all of the movements, all of the
compartments opening and theshooting and stuff, apparently
that was all done via remotecontrol, which at one point you
see a robot turning around in anelevator and I was like, oh,
that's so funny that somebody'slike like on a little remote
control turning that robotaround.
Um, and then also with thespecial effects, um, there's the
(52:48):
scene where greg's thrown tohis death.
Oh, his name's greg.
Um, apparently, jim volunteeredto try the stunt himself, as
long as they set him up from thesecond level, and he completed
it successfully.
But afterwards he found outthat he'd broken a rib in the
process.
But he didn't tell anybody thathe did that, that he got hurt,
so no one found out about it.
Wilson (53:09):
Um, during the production time, which I feel
like now, that would not beallowed well no, because that
means he deceived someone elseinto thinking it was safe to
jump off yeah, betcha, he didn't, betcha, he didn't.
Captain (53:27):
Um, I didn't write it in here, but there was something
that came up multiple timesthat apparently roger corman the
like god of cult or whateverthe fuck um apparently he was
excited to do this film and hebasically came to set for like
the first three or four days andeverybody was really really
nervous that he was likewatching them do this, all of
(53:48):
this, and then apparently liketowards I don't know day three
or four he was like, okay, youguys, look like you got it.
And then he never showed upagain and they were like whew, a
big sigh of relief, because Iguess this guy, jim, doesn't do
a lot of big movies.
Not that this is a big movie,but you know it's porn, right.
Wilson (54:16):
It's like a weird mix of people like I'm surprised it
happened and ended up being theway it did.
Captain (54:20):
I don't know yeah, I, um yeah, but I did.
I did actually like it wasn'tbad, it's just um yeah, and I
thought it'd be more porny afterI read that he did soft porn,
like that's what he's known for,but I I mean there's like
teenage hookups, but I feel likewe see that in a lot of 80s
movies.
Wilson (54:40):
Oh yeah, it wasn't egregious.
Nothing felt more than like anyother 80s movie.
Captain (54:45):
Yeah, I mean, there's like the intro scene where it's
like you know, here's thingsthat are happening at the mall,
which felt like filler, eventhough you said you really liked
it.
But even then there's liketeenagers making out and I was
like.
I was like, oh no, is thisgonna be like, is this gonna be
bad?
But it really wasn't I thoughtit was.
I thought that was about tostart off with being like, oh,
(55:06):
like, this is just just gettingyou ready, warmed up yeah, yeah.
but I was like, oh no, this isjust like an 80s teen movie,
even though, like I said, noneof those kids looked like
teenagers.
Wilson (55:18):
No, they did not.
Captain (55:19):
They were adults.
Actually, maybe they're notsupposed to be teenagers because
the one couple's married.
Wilson (55:24):
Yeah, it's just a weird group of people Like you all
look the same age, but it seemslike you're in different stages
of life.
Captain (55:31):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not really sure.
I guess they had beer, I don'tknow.
But anyway, um, did you?
I don't know?
What do you think?
Did you like it?
Do you have a rating?
Do you have a raise your glassscene?
Um, how we feel percentage wise, I'm conflicted.
Wilson (55:51):
I think, in terms of a campy movie that mostly knows
what it is, I would say like a65.
Captain (56:01):
Oh, okay, nice, I feel like I'm going to be right
around there.
If it's a campy movie thatknows what it's doing.
Did you already put it onLetterboxd?
Wilson (56:10):
No, I haven't rated it yet.
I think, I'll give it a two anda half and I'll say I'll give
it a two and a half and I'll sayI'll give it a heart.
Captain (56:19):
What?
What does that do?
Wilson (56:21):
A heart just shows people you like it, so like you
could think a movie is like kindof a one, but you love it.
Captain (56:28):
Oh, oh, okay, I don't think I'm doing a letterbox that
way, but yeah, I think I'd givethis movie like so there's not
a big storyline, like there's alot of in my opinion filler of
like robots wiggling around andlike not actually doing anything
.
I don't know why they cut somuch out, because I feel like
(56:50):
there was plenty of this stuffto cut, unless they just cut
more of the filler out, whichwould be shocking.
But it was still like I thinkI'd give it a 60 because it's
still like a story that knowswhat it's doing, entertaining in
the fact that it's funny and Ithink it knows that it's comedy.
Like, thank you, have a niceday.
(57:11):
Like girl knows.
So what did they call this atknows?
What did they call this?
What did Wikipedia call this?
Wilson (57:20):
Oh, independent techno horror, oh right, oh, which
reminds me the soundtrack wasreally good.
Captain (57:25):
Oh my gosh, yeah, I was fucking down with the sounds of
robots killing that littlesoundtrack.
You said it's on Amazon, I'mnot going to buy it.
I wish it was on amazon.
I'm not gonna buy it.
I wish it was on spotify thoughdid you look?
Wilson (57:38):
no but I can't imagine it would be on there oh, you
never know, there's like someobscure stuff on there sometimes
would it just be the choppingmall soundtrack um, I think so.
Let me see chopping.
Yeah, it looks like it's onhere wow, that's crazy one of
(58:03):
the songs is called fergie'sdead, but wasn't you say the
name is fetty or something?
Captain (58:10):
wikipedia called it ferdy with a d.
They're saying fergie with a g.
I don't know which one's rightoh well, I don't know.
Um, oh, I meant to mention solittle shop of horrors.
Like I said, is like a reallybig film in roger corman's life.
Um, apparently there's a lot oflike inside jokes in this movie
(58:31):
that that deal with him or jimor some of the characters, like
there's many easter eggs thatyou could pick up if you want to
, if you know a lot about them.
But, um, the pet shop is calledroger's little shop of pets and
it like shows you that likevery clearly, so that it's like
a homage to him?
(58:52):
um, and I just like picked up onthat because I read about it
earlier today and I was like, oh, okay, okay, um, did you have a
razor glass moment from thismovie?
Wilson (59:05):
I.
I think it has to be just thelaser beam to the head and it
explodes immediately no, thatwas pretty good do you have one
um, mine was a super random, butI laughed a lot.
Captain (59:18):
Um, so when the robots uh, come after them after c4ing,
exploding the door, and theboys are like we have to go get
weapons, they get to.
They get to the gun store andone of them goes oh man, how are
we gonna get in?
And the other one goes don'tworry, I have, I have the key.
And then he just picks up likea rock, he looks like, smashes
(59:39):
the windows and I don't knowsomething.
I just wasn't, I was takenaback.
I wasn't expecting him to makea joke and it was just.
It was just very funny.
Um, and I laughed a lot.
Um, so that was my raise aglass okay, yeah, that's a good
one.
I don't know, because most ofthe movie they're super awkward
and I was like, oh okay, you gotme yeah something about the
(01:00:01):
delivery or something caught meby surprise Because we've heard
that joke or that line beforeDefinitely.
So yeah, that was my raise aglass.
But honestly, if people werelike I want camp you my movie,
like I actually would recommend.
Wilson (01:00:18):
Okay, okay, I didn't know we'd get a recommendation
out of you I mean, I don't know,what do you?
Captain (01:00:24):
I mean, would you not recommend?
I mean I would recommend it Imean we're pretty good, um,
especially 80s camp.
It's like core 80s camp.
I didn't look up our list.
Do you know what we're doingfor?
Wilson (01:00:45):
Oh, I just had the list open.
Captain (01:00:47):
Okay, hold on hold on hold on oh damn, I can do it, I
can do it.
Uh-oh, I clicked on the wrongthing.
Wilson (01:00:54):
I just straight up, just pushed the shield out of my
face.
We are doing Deadline next.
Captain (01:01:05):
I don't know what that is.
Wilson (01:01:06):
I don't either.
Captain (01:01:08):
But it's something because I put it on here 2009.
Oh, I'm excited for the 2024film after that.
Okay, well, we're doingDeadline from 2009.
Wilson (01:01:25):
I'm curious to see how it is.
Captain (01:01:27):
Yeah, I couldn't tell you what it is.
But yeah, oh shoot, I don'tknow if I have.
I mean, I have like general.
Wilson (01:01:36):
Advice for me.
Captain (01:01:38):
Advice for you.
I mean, I feel like generally,get the fuck out of the mall
before it closes.
Wilson (01:01:50):
I feel like no, I mean, yeah, you think it's pretty
common that'll happen.
Oh, the cat fell.
Oh, do you think it's prettycommon, if they're like killer
mall robots, that you need toget out that quickly?
Or?
Captain (01:02:06):
you know, today, after this movie, um, who knows, I
feel like if they didn't watchthis movie, they would just I
mean talk about sentient,especially chat dbt.
Wilson (01:02:22):
Maybe they are killer robots that's true actually they
just put the little ai in thereit's all those um, like uh
robots from grocery stores thatlike clean up the aisles.
Oh yeah, I don't see those alot, but yeah, it's gonna be
those creepy.
Captain (01:02:39):
I don't like them actually.
Yeah, definitely, yeah, get thefuck out of there is my advice.
Get the fuck away from thoserobots.
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