Night Swim

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The film discussion begins around 23:50.

Ever wondered how a sorority maze, a mischievous imp, and a citrusy Florida seltzer could possibly be connected? Join us on this whimsical journey as we unravel quirky movie titles and unravel the flavors of intriguing beverages. We chat about the bizarre plot twists in films like "Crimes of the Future" and "Stop Motion," all while pondering the magical influence of lighting on drink appearances. From blood orange drinks to Kona beer and the holiday classic eggnog, our taste buds take center stage in this playful exploration of flavors.

James Cameron's iconic film "The Abyss" gets a fresh look as we dive into its remastered visuals and unexpected narratives, including a surprise Atlantis society and a Navy SEAL's wild descent into madness. Our conversation is enriched with behind-the-scenes tales of Ed Harris nearly drowning on set and the real-life experimentation with oxygenated liquid. We also reflect on the film's impressive visual effects and the intricate connections to other cinematic works, tying it all together with our favorite movie trivia and anecdotes.

And if haunted pools are your thing, our analysis of the 2024 horror film "Night Swim" will keep you on the edge of your seat. From the eerie happenings around a murky pool to the fate of Ray Waller and his family, the film's ghostly waters offer plenty to ponder. We humorously critique the family's puzzling decisions, discuss the film's cinematography, and even share some personal poolside tales. Wrapping up with our thoughts on "Glass" and its peculiar moments, we leave you with a teaser for our upcoming episode on "I Dropped the Devil," just in time for the holidays. Tune in for a journey through cinematic wonders and delightful drink debates!

Episode Transcript

Captain (00:21):
the slime ball, no, the sorority maze.
Sorority maze and the slimeball bowl-a-rama.
I mean, we are not.
I can't.

Wilson (00:30):
That's fine.

Captain (00:33):
That is fine.
I mean, I just, it soundsreally bad.

Wilson (00:41):
I mean it's probably terrible.
I've never heard of it in mylife before.

Captain (00:45):
It says that sorority boss babs.
Why does it say babs and notbabes?
Order pledges to steal thebowling trophy, but they drop it
and free an imp.

Wilson (01:04):
Interesting Okay.

Captain (01:07):
But besides that, I think next season will be fun.
There's some movies on therethat I have been interested in
seeing.

Wilson (01:16):
I'm very excited for Crimes of the Future.

Captain (01:18):
Crimes of the Future.

Wilson (01:19):
I hope that's good.

Captain (01:23):
I'm really excited for Stop Motion.

Wilson (01:27):
I don't know that one oh anyway, that's for later.

Captain (01:33):
Okay, I wanted to talk to you.
Well, I guess I should say Idon't know.

Wilson (01:39):
Oh, you're sipping on something, blood orange well,
it's just, I think it's thelighting.

Captain (01:44):
Yeah, that's oh how come your lighting always does
that?

Wilson (01:47):
I don't know.
It's at a, it's at a warm lightright now and I guess it just I
mean I can make it a whitelight don't sound so excited um
what is it.

Captain (01:59):
Is it a kona?

Wilson (02:01):
it is a kona oh I said I was gonna do a fun one and I
forgot.
Well, actually I didn't.

Captain (02:06):
I haven't finished this from watching the movie you can
sprinkle some cinnamon in itand it could be Christmas.

Wilson (02:17):
Actually cinnamon in.
It would probably be like kindof good.

Captain (02:20):
Really it would be a Christmas beer.

Wilson (02:21):
I mean, it would probably just be, you know, like
a lolly beer.

Captain (02:30):
Wait, what else do they put, oh, peppermint.
What else do they put inchristmas drinks peppermint, oh,
eggnog, I guess.

Wilson (02:33):
How about a cone of eggnog?
Oh, I don't like eggnog, Idon't like eggnog either.

Captain (02:36):
I don't know what the big deal is.

Wilson (02:37):
I don't know why people I don't know, it's just like and
I don't want to get drunk onthat oh it sounds very milky and
eggy.

Captain (02:45):
Yeah, it is um well, hold on.
Oh, yeah, you, so it's not fun.

Wilson (02:51):
That's what you're saying wait, what's not fun, oh,
eggnog yeah, no, your drink.
You said you were gonna do afun one yeah, uh, I I haven't
finished this since the movie,so I was going to have a fun one
out, but I haven't gotten thereyet.

Captain (03:07):
Well, I'm having Okay, I don't know what a yuzu is.
Do you know what that is?
But I'm having a Floridaseltzer, but it's an orange yuzu
.
It looks like so it's a orangeyuzu.

Wilson (03:31):
uh, it looks like, so it's a citrus.

Captain (03:32):
Okay, it looks like an orange that like a mandarin
tangerine orange, like in thatfamily you're saying um, yes, it
is a subspecies of a mandarinorange and uh, can't say this.

Wilson (03:45):
I was struggling with yuzu, so and a chong popeda, a
chong I don't know.

Captain (03:54):
I shouldn't have asked Japanese cuisine.
Oh my gosh, I see what wordyou're trying to say.
I'm not even gonna I, I don'tknow.

Wilson (04:08):
No, no, no, but if you really want to make it super
simple, it sounds like it's justa mix between a lemon and an
orange.

Captain (04:15):
I could see that it says it's like a bitter
grapefruit.

Wilson (04:21):
Oh.

Captain (04:21):
Well, it doesn't.

Wilson (04:23):
I think it means like a more bitter grapefruit, not like
a bitter grapefruit okay, Iguess that's okay well, she's
serving orange, so okay, so it'sgood, yeah, okay it almost
reminds me of an orange crush,honestly well, now you're like
selling me one I mean, I feellike I've already sold florida

(04:47):
seltzer a zillion times, so, butthis is.
I mean you advertised it.
I don't know if you sold it areyou saying I'm a bad advertiser
?
I I mean, do you see medrinking one right now?

Captain (05:01):
damn all right, just fuck me.
I guess geez everyone's finewell, I like it.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Um, okay, I what I reallywanted to get into, so I have
been.
I came up on a podcast like notthat long ago about the abyss,
the movie with like the deep sea, and it's come up multiple

(05:24):
times and I really wanted towatch it and I've seen those
tiktoks that are like um, here'sall the crazy backstory to the
filming of the abyss, like youknow what?
I mean.
So I was like fuck it, I justwant to watch it, and so I
watched it.
And then I was like god damn.
And so then I told you you haveto watch it so that we can talk
about it.
So you've watched it.

Wilson (05:46):
Yes, so I am almost fairly certain.
I watched it like in my teens.
But I'm also confusing it withanother movie, I don't know.
So anyway, I snuck in watchingit this week.
You liked it.
Oh yes, yes, I liked it.

Captain (06:03):
One thing I noticed was , I guess they remastered it
because it looked really goodyes, okay, you now it's in hd
and I was like this maybe doesnot look.
What is it in the 80s right?
89 I think, yeah, it does notlook 30 years old, like it's no,
yeah, like I can see all oftheir pores, like, like it's.

(06:24):
But I really I don't know.
I guess I wasn't surprised.
It wasn't the way I thought themovie was going to be, but like
I wasn't expecting like a NavySEAL to go crazy being like a
big part of the movie, but itwas really good.

Wilson (06:42):
Oh yeah, and it's really well Like the effects look
really good.

Captain (06:45):
Oh yeah, and it's really well like the effects
look really good, yes, and likewhat the monster actually
visually like looks like was notwhat I was expecting either.
And then, like I mean, I don'tknow if this is really spoiler.
I mean, like I said, the movieis over 30 years old, but I was
not expecting there to be likean Atlantis society at the end.

(07:07):
Like I wasn't expecting that atall.
Like literally watching theentire movie that was not
something that even came up intomy brain.

Wilson (07:15):
I think the only thing I had a very vague memory in this
movie and the only thing wasbreathing like that weird oxygen
liquid.
Oh my gosh, that's.

Captain (07:25):
that's like all I remembered from the movie the
ratty.
I was so nervous for the rattybut honestly I I like looked it
up early in the movie, likebecause on the website does the
dog die it?
It like mentions like if petsand like everyone was like no
rat survives and I was like andthat was like an actual like,

(07:47):
like it looked like a wistar,like like a laboratory, like a
white lab rat, like I was kindof surprised um I actually found
hot goss related to that rat oh, is it bad no well, it doesn't
involve death or anything.
Okay, yeah, good, do you want tohear it?

Wilson (08:07):
Yes, Okay, so there's actually a lot of good hot costs
I wanted to cover, but I mighthave to cut this part.
I just need to find where Iread it.

Captain (08:21):
There's probably mountains of stuff about the
abyss.

Wilson (08:24):
honestly, oh my gosh, they're like I.

Captain (08:27):
I don't know if they were actually making one, but I
thought they were thinking aboutmaking a documentary, just
about the filming, because Ibelieve that I do remember that
they said steven spielberg,almost wait.
Yeah right, the director right,james cameron, sorry james
cameron.
I was like that doesn't soundright.

Wilson (08:43):
James cameron almost died and then the main character
guy almost died, yeah, whilefilming yes, um, okay, I found
the hot goss so, uh, that waslike a, that oxygenated juice
was actually, like it was real.
Um, they like worked with dukeuniversity doctors, to use it

(09:06):
correctly.
So that scene where they testedon the rat, they were actually
doing that on the rat?
Yes, and it said.
In that scene they cut away tothe actor's faces while the
rat's adjusting and that'sbecause while the rat was
panicking it pooped in the water.
So they didn't show that, butyeah, yeah, they actually did

(09:27):
that to.
The rat was panicking it likepooped in the water, so they
like didn't show that, um, butyeah yeah, they like actually
did that to the rat.

Captain (09:30):
Oh my god, there's no way that would be approved to
happen like today.
I I don't know if this is true,but I did read one thing about
the rat when I was on the thatwebsite.
I think that um steven and ohmy god, not james cameron took
the rat when I was on the thatwebsite.
I think that um Steven, and ohmy God not to James Cameron took
the rat as a pet for like afterwhen it was when they were done

(09:51):
filming.

Wilson (09:51):
I don't know if that was true, but uh, if that's part of
the hot costs, I have notgotten that far yet, so I don't
know.
Um, do you want to hear someother hot?

Captain (10:07):
Yes, um, do you want to hear some other hot guys?
Yes, I do want to hear otherhot guys.
I am oh sorry, um, there wasone other thing I wanted to say
about the movie.
Um, I can't remember, um, theguy, the main guy ed harris yes,
I was like, didn't we just talkabout him because he was in
west?
He's the westworld guy, yeahyeah, yeah um, and we like just

(10:29):
talked about him because he'sthe katja plays his daughter in
westworld, I was like, wow, it'slike weirdly all circling yeah,
it's so weird when that happensokay, what other hot goss do
you have?

Wilson (10:43):
This is a quick one.
Ed Harris apparently punchedJames Cameron in the face after
James Cameron kept filming whileEd Harris was nearly drowning.

Captain (10:54):
Oh my gosh.

Wilson (10:57):
Most of the scenes did not have stunt people, so if
there are any scenes with theactors like you know, like kind
of drowning or something likethat, like those are all the
actors.
Um, all the cast and crew hadlike nicknames for the movie but
they all had terribleexperiences like uh, one of them
, ed harris, apparently likepulled over one day while he's

(11:19):
driving home, just bursting inthe tears, crying like oh my
gosh the main actress, um, hadlike a physical and emotional
breakdown at one point and Ithink, oh, I also read that ed
harris refuses to talk aboutthis movie ptsd whoa yeah

Captain (11:35):
yeah, like after several near drownings, like
james cameron almost drowned inthis movie I did read that part
um that he like had weights thatwere weighing him down so he
could study the cameraunderwater.

Wilson (11:48):
And then, like something happened where they got stuck
on him and he couldn't get backup yeah, he had like less oxygen
than he thought and then, likethe guy that was supposed to
help him, thought he was justhaving a panic attack and not
drowning, I don't know.
So apparently two people gotfired.
Uh, that day.
Whoa, that's crazy theassistant director, I believe,

(12:10):
and the diver that was there toassist him yeah, so did all
these people.

Captain (12:16):
I guess they're not in scuba, are?
They're not actually in scubagear, like a lot of the movie
they're in, like those suits,but I don't think they're
actually scuba-ing, right, orare they?

Wilson (12:27):
well, I think they are actually like they.
Um, if I read it correctly,where they filmed was a giant
like old nuclear reactor?

Captain (12:35):
yeah, it was an empty tank that they filled with water
like it was, isn't it like theworld's largest, like artificial
lake or some shit like that?

Wilson (12:42):
yeah, like water set yeah um, yeah, so like a lot of
that was legit filmed underwater.
Um, I did see that, uh, theactors had to put like vaseline
or something in their hair toprotect their um hair from
because there's so much chlorine, to keep the water clean, uh,
to protect it from getting likewhite didn't she say that when
you did swimming in high schoolthat your hair was like crispy?

Captain (13:06):
uh, yes, it was like straw and it turned like several
shades lighter oh yeah, I mean,I guess it's better than like
giardia or whatever that wouldbe in water.

Wilson (13:17):
Yeah, I mean I will happily take the crispy hair but
um, yeah it just.

Captain (13:26):
I really did like the movie.
Not what I was expecting at theend with the ending.
Um not, I wasn't expecting thenavy seal either, like while we
were watching it.
I don't know anything aboutnavy seals, I don't know if you
do but, while we were watchingit, um, jay was telling me that
like yeah, navy seals aresupposed to be trained killers.

(13:47):
I don't know if that's true,but he said that Navy SEAL
training has been known to just.
The training itself killspeople.

Wilson (13:59):
Damn.

Captain (14:00):
I didn't know that.
I don't know these things, butif you say so.
So when they portray an ABC inthe movie who's like down to
fucking clown, I guess that'srealistic.

Wilson (14:15):
Yeah, I guess.
So Well, not really related tothat, but it did remind me.
Did you notice how manywell-known actors are in this
movie?
But they're like little babiesbasically.

Captain (14:27):
I did recognize a bunch of people.
One of the guys was like I waslike, oh yeah, I see him
everywhere.
The guy that doesn't really gounderwater.

Wilson (14:40):
He's part of the rescue team.
Well, Roland from Sch shitscreek was in it.

Captain (14:48):
Oh that's, is that?
Yes, I think that's okay.

Wilson (14:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah but there were a couple other people
that you just you see ineverything man, the pictures
that google has for these people.

Captain (14:57):
I'm like I don't recognize any of these people
the their imdb pictures aregarbage.

Wilson (15:03):
Like who cropped these.

Captain (15:06):
Yeah, I really just recognized Ed Harris and Chris
Elliott.
There's a fuck ton of people inthe city.
I will say there are a lot, butyeah, it was good.
I would recommend.
Um, I can't imagine how toughit is to film underwater 30

(15:31):
years ago, because they eventalked about it in the movie
we're about to review it thatit's tough yeah, I wouldn't.

Wilson (15:38):
I mean, I'm not an actor and I'm not at all close to
this, but I would not have.
I feel like I would not havedone this movie.

Captain (15:43):
I'd be like, absolutely not um, okay, I looked at navy
seals and they say that.
Um, it's a 24-week trainingcourse for basic conditioning
and it includes a gruelingfive-day period called hell week
, where candidates must run over200 miles with only four hours
of sleep.

Wilson (16:03):
Yikes.
I'm guessing they have to likesurvive on their own in the
wilderness too.

Captain (16:10):
Yeah, I mean there's other stuff.
There's 18 months ofspecialized training and
on-the-job training after thatand it says it's considered the
most difficult training regimenin the US military physically
and mentally.

Wilson (16:30):
I mean I guess they need it.
I would be curious to readabout that sometime.
I don't know how much they sayabout it, but that's something.

Captain (16:36):
I'd watch a documentary on it says only a quarter of
the candidates actually make itthrough that hell week the
others die or they just drop outI would assume they drop out if
we were killing that manypeople.
I think, I think, I think wewould know about it I don't know
.
You said, people die I don'tknow, that's what I was told.

(16:57):
Uh, all right, who knows, thatmight just be a um, oh no,
somebody did die.
Oh no, somebody did die in 2022oh he got that pneumonia after
completing an underwater sealprogram.
Part of the the hell week umunderwater part there's an

(17:19):
underwater part I mean they'reseals.
Oh, and then, in 2023, anotherseal died from a parachute
training accident.
I guess people do die, okay.

Wilson (17:33):
Well, anyway, that'll never be me on to better things
um okay, so, um yeah, I thinkthis is good, though, james
cameron, he knows what he'sdoing I bet they don't talk to
like I wouldn't be surprised ifthat cast doesn't talk to him
ever again.
Uh, probably has not probablynot.

Captain (17:55):
Um, I I did see that um , james cameron, supposedly the
movie the abyss.
The one one thing I did see isthat, um, he, that story that he
that the movie's based on is,is based on a short story that
he wrote when he was 17 oh wow,yeah and then they like expanded

(18:16):
the storylines of the cast,basically, and you know, have
money but um, yeah, it was likeone of his first stories he ever
wrote.
Damn I know it was like fuck me,uh why he fucking loves water
he does, he really does like Imean, come on, like titanic, the

(18:39):
abyss um um, I I know I'veheard the avatar thing um that
he waited to make avatar 2 until, like, he was expecting movie
technology to get better.
So he like waited to makeavatar 2 until he felt it was
good enough I think I heard thattoo yeah I wish I would have.

Wilson (19:01):
I mean, I don't know what I would have done
differently, but I wish I wouldhave known that when I saw the
first one and not expect it liketwo to three years later.

Captain (19:12):
Yeah, he's a little tight about his work.
Okay, are you ready?

Wilson (19:20):
I am ready.
I was just looking up picturesof the, the abandoned set from
this movie.
Like you can still see the riga little bit oh, where is it?
Um.

Captain (19:31):
I think I saw it was south carolina oh, let's pop
over yeah, I mean, I feel likeyou can't actually go in there,
but I don't want to go like in,but I would like to stand on the
edge it.

Wilson (19:43):
Well, you'd'd have to.
Yeah, I don't know.
When you see the picture, it'dbe hard.
Well, I don't know.

Captain (19:47):
Oh Damn, that is like a legit abandoned rig.
We don't want to go.
We could probably go.

Wilson (19:55):
I mean if we're allowed to actually look up close.

Captain (19:59):
I wonder they don't do tours?
I feel like they should dotours.

Wilson (20:07):
I mean, maybe I feel like you don't agree with
anything I'm saying.

Captain (20:12):
If we can, do tours, I will go on a tour.
Okay, I feel like you're sayingthat because you know that they
don't do tours.
Abyss set, it might be one ofthose like I can't remember what
those are called where you canlike it's not like verbo, but
it's like um, oh, what is that?
Called when they do like thoselittle tootsie tours I don't

(20:36):
know.

Wilson (20:37):
I did watch a documentary for somebody that
turned an old missile silo intoan airbnb, which is semi-related
jesus, is it good?

Captain (20:46):
it's actually a really fascinating documentary films
the entire renovation processthat sounds so fucking specific
that I don't know how they madea whole documentary about it oh,
it's fascinating what's itcalled?

Wilson (21:02):
um, I think it's called the titan project where's the
airbnb now?

Captain (21:06):
like where is it?
Uh why are you watching this?

Wilson (21:14):
I somehow I got like I don't know.
I saw like a reddit article, Ithink, and then it's just I
don't know okay, the TitanProject.

Captain (21:25):
when I type that in brings me up crazy other things,
like a rogue governmentphysicist recovers an unknown
element of undisclosedproperties.

Wilson (21:37):
Okay, I found it.
It's the.
You could actually run it onAirbnb.

Captain (21:42):
Why Don't do that to me ?
Why are you telling me to lowermy hand?
Wait what oh, did you not dothat?
No looks like you're donetalking, so we'll lower your
hand okay, I didn't do it umit's in arkansas arkansas yeah,

(22:03):
um, it's's the Titan II nuclearmissile silo.
Damn.
This looks like kind of good.

Wilson (22:10):
Yeah, so you should watch the YouTube I wasn't
expecting this to look nice.

Captain (22:17):
Oh, you have to go up a sterile staircase, though.

Wilson (22:22):
Yeah, like it starts off from the beginning, where he,
like I guess, spies it and thething's completely flooded and
how do you buy it, though, likehow are you buying that?

Captain (22:30):
how do you just buy that as like regular commercial
property?

Wilson (22:33):
I, I couldn't tell you, could not tell you um, but yeah,
there's like 25 episodes orsomething did you?

Captain (22:42):
oh, um, okay, I'm looking at the airbnb um but
like it's legit, only twobedrooms I'm sorry oh, it's a

(23:03):
YouTube documentary, that's alittle different.

Wilson (23:07):
Yeah sorry, oh my god, oh my god it's playing.

Captain (23:09):
Oh my god, oh my god oh my god, oh my god no.

Wilson (23:13):
Well, if you get curious , check it out.
I sent you the link to theactual series.
It's pretty interesting.

Captain (23:20):
Okay.

Wilson (23:22):
I don't know if I'll ever really honestly be in
Arkansas.
Yeah, me neither.
Oh wait, Distraction Getting usback to the abyss.
I did find out.
It sounds like they demolishedit in 2006.
Sad, or 2007.
If you look on Google Maps,somebody said on Reddit it's not
there anymore.

Captain (23:42):
Sad.

Wilson (23:44):
Sorry.

Captain (23:47):
Well, now we can go to a torrent and it'll just be like
a random land pile look at thislake um, okay, well, anyway,
that's what I wanted to talkabout.
It's been a long time.
You're ready.
You're ready to hop in here?
I'm ready to hop in here okay,welcome to the 162nd episode of
the Red Run Podcast, where wereview horror movies while
enjoying an adult beverage ortwo, and I'm Captain.

Wilson (24:11):
And I'm Wilson.

Captain (24:12):
And this week we're reviewing the 2024 American
Supernatural Horror film NightSwim Night Swim oh my gosh,
night swim.
Okay, um, it's based on a 2014short by the same director.

(24:37):
Writer.
All that I don't.
I don't know.
I don't know anyone's everwatched a short.
I don't even know the shortslike on youtube or short.
I don't even know if theshort's on YouTube or whatever.
I wonder if the short is better?
Probably, but the person thatmade it, Bryce McGuire.

Wilson (24:59):
He's not even clickable on Wikipedia, but he wrote the
short and then got some umpeople to sign on and then, um
you know, he got it to take offum like james wan and jason.

Captain (25:14):
Yeah, so they like underwrote.
I don't know what under bannermeans, but like their producers
under banner I my my guess couldbe wrong.

Wilson (25:23):
It's just that the production studios made it like
it's a blumhouse movie orwhatever but james wan doesn't
does.
He doesn't have his ownproduction company, right um, I
don't know, it kind of seemslike he would yeah, he's great,
he's so fun I.
I feel like some of his moviesare misses, but they have really

(25:47):
cool concepts I feel like jameswan has more hits than blum
blum can be real weird, but theones that the ones that do good.

Captain (25:56):
I love room 104, like I love that series um and uh,
creep, oh great series um.
I can't remember if you watchedcreep or not.
I know that I raved to youbefore about it wait, is that
the one with mark duplass?

Wilson (26:13):
yeah, it's not a blumhouse, no um I think we did
that for a podcast movie.

Captain (26:19):
We actually did do it okay.
I know I watched it not for apodcast, so that's why I wasn't
sure.
Um, anyway, that's not thepoint.

Wilson (26:28):
Oh, he does have a production studio.

Captain (26:29):
It's atomic monster oh, okay, that was the two that
started the movie it was one.
Oh, okay.

Wilson (26:47):
Annabelle Lights Out.
Oh, the Curse of La Llorona didthat too.

Captain (26:52):
There's a bunch of other ones Is that the spinning
eggs on the nips?

Wilson (26:55):
Yes, it is?

Captain (26:57):
Yes, it is.
But anyway, night Swim, yes,bryce McGuire, james James Wan,
jason Blum, um, the.
There's also apparently, um, oh, I thought there was a second.
Oh, rod Blackhurst, um, alsohelped write the short.

(27:21):
Okay, anyway, fuck them, youknow what I'm saying.
Okay, so we have Wyatt Russell,who plays Ray Waller in this
movie.
He's known for his roles inOverlord Never seen that.
John Walker in the Falcon andWinter Shoulder series that's
where I know him from, but I didlook up.

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He also was like a semi league.
I don't know major league, Idon't know anything about ice
hockey, but he was an ice hockeyplayer which he kind of gives
those vibes.
And then something else is he'sa nepo baby, right, his parents
are kurt russell and goldiehahn, kate hud, half-sister, so

(28:05):
he's all up in there.

Wilson (28:06):
He is.

Captain (28:08):
I can kind of see it on his face.

Wilson (28:10):
I didn't realize Kate Hudson was not both Kurt
Russell's and Goldie Hawn's kid.

Captain (28:19):
I don't, that's Wikipedia, but I don't.
Okay, I know the names, kurtrussell and goldie hahn, but if
you like, put those pictures ina pile of pictures.

Wilson (28:33):
I don't know if I can pick those two up out I think
you could pick out kurt russell,for sure, maybe goldie hahn I
feel like you have a lot offaith in me.

Captain (28:44):
Um, okay, and then, uh, carrie corden nope, condon
plays eve waller in this movie.
So that's um, the husband andwife, those two.
And eve waller is anoscar-nominated actress for her
role in the banshees of oh noit's.

Wilson (29:01):
Can I help you with that ?

Captain (29:02):
one.

Wilson (29:02):
Yeah, I heard it in a shir in a shiren and I only know
that because I heard it.

Captain (29:06):
I watched the awards, so I heard oh, I thought, did
you not watch the simi for somereason?
I thought you did uh, no, Ihaven't the banshees of in a
shiren yeah do you know whatit's about?
Uh, no, I mean she's oscarnommed, but what I really know
her from is that she is kaylee'smom in better call saul, so

(29:29):
she's the daughter-in-law tomike right I was like oh, I kind
of recognize her face.
And then, um, she's also thevoice of iron man's suit in all
of his tech.

Wilson (29:39):
Um, I guess that's after the newer ones.

Captain (29:42):
I don't know that yeah, what is it called, oh man?
The other one no, the, it's anacronym is her character's name
and it's like affinity or after,or atlas or something atlas
sounds familiar it's like marvelvoice girly pop tech please

(30:06):
tell me you typed it I startedto and then I stopped because I
said that's not gonna work umeve condon.
No, it's carrie condon ohfriday friday was that close?
I said after an atlas, yeah,I'll say that's close.

Wilson (30:29):
I mean I also said that it sounded familiar, so I'm also
super wrong um, I don't reallylike friday well I feel like
they could.

Captain (30:39):
They could have more fun with it, but whatever like
saturday yeah, yeah, likethursday, thursday, um okay, and
then we have oh, is that emily?

Wilson (30:56):
you know, I don't know ho feral I thought you were
trying a different pronunciationof Emily.

Captain (31:03):
No.

Wilson (31:03):
Definitely not it.

Captain (31:06):
I'm probably butchering .
Emily Ho Farrell is Izzy Wallerin this, and she is mostly
known for Hunger Games, theBallad, songbirds and Snakes.
What the fuck is that?
Is that all one title?

Wilson (31:21):
The Ballad of no the.
Hunger Games, the Ballad ofsongbirds and snakes well, yeah,
like I think it's like the nextbook in the series or whatever.
Like, have you ever have youwatched any hunger games?
Yeah, well, I think that onelike just came out yeah, I think
they all have their littlesecond name, except maybe the
first one subtitle yeah,whatever it's not what it's

(31:44):
called like.
It's a sub I don't know if thatwould that count as a sub.
I don't know, I couldn't tellyou um, oh, okay, well, there's
another book coming out.

Captain (31:57):
I was gonna say I'm looking, that's the longest
because it's the hunger games,catching fire, mocking jay, like
okay, those make sense.
And then they said well, getready, because it's the Ballad
of Songbirds and Snakes.
I'm like can you what happenedto the two syllables, two or
three, three syllables.

Wilson (32:13):
Get her Jade, yeah, I don't.

Captain (32:16):
Sunrise on the Weeping is the next one coming out,
anyway.
And then, lastly, we gavinwarren, who plays elliot, and
he's known for his role in thefear of the walking dead, which,
um, I was told I should startwatching, because I just gave up
on the walking dead, because Igot to the really bad seasons

(32:37):
and I never kept going yeah, I,I never even started for the
walking dead because by thatpoint I was burnt out from
Walking Dead.

Wilson (32:46):
I was like I'm good.

Captain (32:47):
Apparently Fear.
The Walking Dead has just asgood reviews.

Wilson (32:52):
I feel like that one got canceled right.

Captain (32:55):
I don't know.

Wilson (32:55):
Or no.

Captain (32:57):
I got no ideas.
I like that ChatGBT decided tosay I've got a couple drinks and
like dry humor is our is.
Is that our gist?
Oh is that?
Did you put that, or like?

Wilson (33:16):
so after I asked chat GBT to get the synopsis for the
regular script, he was like, letme just try putting in the you
know this prompt, but say likeum.
What did he say?
Like, give me the plot as ifwe're podcasting while drinking
with.

Captain (33:36):
Um, like dry humor oh and it popped up with this uh I
got a couple drinks and, likedry humor, it sounds like a
country song.

Wilson (33:47):
That's how I'm hearing it but like the, that first
paragraph is actually pretty funokay, you want me to yeah, yeah
I feel like this doesn't soundlike me, oh well, you don't have
to sound like a hillbilly

Captain (34:03):
just read it as I would read it, yeah, okay, all right,
gather around horror fans andgrab yourself a drink or two,
because we're diving into thishaunted water of night.
Swim, a little gem from 2024,where even the pool is out to
get you.
I don't know about you, but Ilike my summer swim with a side
of existential dread.

(34:23):
Here's a rundown on theBackyard Horror Show, and let me
just say it's as refreshing asa shot of whiskey chased by a
ghost story.
Oh my God, something about thatis so cheesy.

Wilson (34:40):
It was, but it was fun.

Captain (34:44):
Okay, I'm going to, we're gonna mix, we're gonna mix
it, okay.
So the movie starts out in thesummer of 1992.
Oh my gosh, not all the 90s,okay, anyway.
There's this little girl,rebecca.
Rebecca, she um wakes up in themiddle of the night to a toy,

(35:04):
scooting around in a pool byherself, or by itself, I guess
terrible idea it's her sickbrother's toy that I guess he
was missing.
So she tries to get out of thepool with a pool net.
Is that what that's called apool net, and that doesn't sound
right.
Is it a pool?

Wilson (35:24):
net.
Um, uh, yeah, I don't know whatthe yeah, I don't, what does
that work?
Uh, yeah, like a the, the net,the thing on the pole where you
like a pool net cleaning thepool a pool.

Captain (35:38):
Yeah, just something about that doesn't sound right I
know right, okay, anyway, I'mgonna yell at myself later on
when I listen to this.
But she is trying to fish itout with one of those nets and
she's got these like cute littlebunny slippers on Side note,
those slippers look so comfy.
I was like kind of jelly, butshe gets like yanked into the

(36:09):
pool with something grabbing theother side of the net as she's
holding it and she okay.
The same sequence happens everytime someone goes in a pool
where, like they're drowningunder the water, they see a
figure looking at them from thesurface and like so for her it
looks like her mom and she getsto the surface again but there's
nobody actually there and thenthe lights flicker until they

(36:29):
flicker off and then I guess shegets dragged down again or
something to the darkness yeahbut that's just like kind of
playing with her, but like in aI'm trying to kill you sort of
way in like a cutesy, possessedkind of way.
Yeah, um, it's it, but it's likeI said, it's the same sequence
for everybody.
So I just, you know, beprepared um this.

(36:54):
She ends up becoming apermanent member of the
coronated underworld underworldand then it fast forwards to
present day and we have our newhomeowners.
It is Ray Waller and his wifeand his two kids, and he is a, I

(37:18):
guess, famous MLB third baseman, but he has MS.
So he, I don't know know,retired or he's not retired, I
don't know what you yeah, I meanhe probably just had to step
down.
And then I mean yeah, he's likewalking with a cane.
Um, and I don't really know youbrought this point up that's

(37:40):
like what the fuck was theirplan?
Because they went from lookingfor rental houses to like
suddenly deciding to buy a cheaphouse that was a fixer-upper,
but he's dealing with like aserious illness.
So it's like how are you doingthat?
I don't know, it was confusing,like I agree.
Yeah, I don't understand theirlike backstories or like

(38:02):
something doesn't really makesense it doesn't line up, um,
but they do decide to buy thishouse and it has this like pool,
that's like, um, you know, allnasty in the back, um, and even
before they buy the house, onthe tour the dad falls into the
pool fishing out like a nastyold baseball, because he is

(38:26):
baseball, um, and he like getswrapped up in plastic and it's
like a whole thing and he's likepeople die that way.

Wilson (38:32):
I mean I guess that's why it's in the movie.
But your eye roll like diegetting wrapped in plastic um of
like I've heard the dangers ofum pool covers and people
falling on them and then, likethe water closes in around it
and you're basically justtrapped in a plastic bag.

Captain (38:49):
No, that makes sense.
I didn't see it because I don'tthink I was even born yet.
Maybe I was, I don't know.
But my grandparents had a poolat their house many, many years
ago and supposedly a deer walkedon their pull cover and fell in

(39:09):
, and then they had to, like youknow, clear out the deer
carcass.
yeah, yeah, but I think they gota hard cover after that yeah, I
can see why um that's becausethat's like a whole thing and
then, yeah, I don't even knowhow they I mean, you'd have to
like, I don't even know how youdeal with that because, like, I
feel like a deer, even a smalldeer is like fucking heavy if

(39:32):
it's an adult yeah but anyway,not the point.
Um, but this pool didn'tinitially have like a real cover
which we'll get into.
They buy a real cover, um, butthe both of these parents are
like so gross.
Like mom is picking up bugs outof the pool.
I'm like get your hands out ofthere yeah, this pool that's

(39:54):
been abandoned.

Wilson (39:55):
For what do we think?

Captain (39:56):
like 20 years they said it hasn't been used in 15 years
yeah, and she's just reachingin.

Wilson (40:03):
No gloves, just pure nasties.

Captain (40:06):
She's to save a cricket , yeah to save a fucking cricket
, like girl.
And then after that they clearout the pool like all family
hands on deck is scrubbing thepool.

Wilson (40:17):
No gloves like no, and the dad's like reaching his arm,
like our arm, deep into this,like the drainage tube in the
bottom.

Captain (40:26):
It's like and then I also don't get this.
Yeah, because then he gets cuton something, of course, and
he's bleeding everywhere.
Um, but so then they decide tocall an expert, like after after
an injury, and I still don'tunderstand.
He said that the pool is anatural filling, like well water
, like I swear that's what hesaid, like it's from it was.

Wilson (40:47):
I think he said it's a like a natural spring like a
spring.

Captain (40:53):
Is that like good, though?
Like, is that like well,besides the possession, like in
a real, in a real one?
Like is that safe um?

Wilson (41:05):
I don't.
I don't know like I would stillwant to treat it, but like the
pool guy made it sound like youcan't really treat it because
it's just constantly coming inwith new spring water yeah, and
he said that like it's weird tosee one of these like I.

Captain (41:21):
I don't know, it doesn't sound.
I guess you'd have to livereally close to a natural spring
for you to have a naturalspring water pool.
So maybe that's why you don'tsee a lot of them.
But I don't know, it doesn'tsound.
Just give me a chlorinated pool, please.

Wilson (41:38):
Yeah, I'd be like, can we not do this?

Captain (41:40):
Like I don't want the spring, I don't want yeah, I
don't need the spring.

Wilson (41:43):
I think I'm gonna be okay, I would rather go to an
expert place that has a naturalspring and not like my fucking
backyard oh yeah, oh yeah so Imean, I guess, if you're buying
a house and it's a pool and likeyou might think, oh well,
somebody probably checked thisto make sure it was fine I guess
, um, but I think I don't evenknow maybe the family gets

(42:10):
placed in the pool one day orwhatever.

Captain (42:11):
But, um, the mom goes on a night swim, like right
after the pool is good to go, um, and she has the same creepy
sequence, her, she sees, uh, theout, like she sees somebody
that looks like her husbandstanding outside of the pool at
the surface, and then, when shegets to the surface, he's not

(42:31):
there and the lights areflickering.

Wilson (42:33):
Um, and then she, they have the cider, the cat that is
walking around the pool as well,and goes missing and like
hissing at the water and it'slike, okay, an animal is looking
at something like threateningly, like okay, it's something's
haunted, or whatever, come on.

Captain (42:49):
Yeah, have you never watched a horror movie?
Right?
Um, but I will say that momlike scuttles out of the pool so
fucking fast and those lightsare flashing.
She's like nope oh yeah, Iwouldn't swim in a dark pool
yeah, as soon as, as soon, likeif a toy is moving around in a
pool by itself, I'm just notgoing in there.
I'm just.
I mean, I've night swam beforein a pool, but it was like you

(43:11):
know an Airbnb or something whenit's like, what are they going
to kill me?
I'll take all the highinsurance money, please, anyway,
yeah, so she like is already,already, she's like big nervous

(43:32):
about the pool.

Wilson (43:32):
Um, she doesn't want her son swimming in the pool by
himself, but um, just fairieslike eight or something yeah, is
he.

Captain (43:37):
I thought he was in middle school I don't know when
do you get to middle school?
11 uh 11 or 12 yeah, yeah, thatsounds right like sixth grade
yeah, um, yeah, but obviously soI will say the dad is I should
back up the dad is um, likehealing his ms through supposed

(44:02):
water therapy that he's doing inthis pool, but you know, we
find out the pool is a littlebit more magic-y than just water
therapy.
That he's doing in this pool,but you know, we find out the
pool is a little bit moremagic-y than just water therapy.
But, like he goes through allthese tests at the doctors and
the doctor shook, she's like Idon't understand, but it's like
looks like your MS is improving,like they thought it was
getting worse and then they didall these tests and she was like
just kidding.
And so now he's like reallyfocused on his health and

(44:25):
instead of like swimming withhis son, he tells him like I'll
be there in a minute and he letshis swim, his son swim by
himself, um, which is like badnews bears.
But this is the first time thatwe see like a real figure in the
pool, um, where he hears, um, alittle girl say hello, I'm

(44:45):
looking for my mom, and she evensays her whole name.
She's like I'm rebecca summers,which I feel like I don't know.
I feel like usually in horrormovies.
You don't hear somebody likesay like who I am and why I'm
here oh yeah, they never explainwho they are and, like, what
their intentions are she's likehey, it's me, I lived here I
died in the water.

Wilson (45:06):
Uh, stay out of it I'm looking for my mom.

Captain (45:08):
Have you seen her?
Yeah, um, but I think the sceneand this is the same one from
the trailer where you see likean arm covered in hair, grab him
, um, and like try to yank himinto what the fuck is that hole
on the side of a pool called Icould not think of what that was
called the what the holes thatare on the side of the pool that

(45:29):
catch shit oh uh, hole catchers, I don't know what are those
called when I was typing filtersome shit when I was typing my
notes I was like what the fuckare those called?

Wilson (45:44):
Pool holes.

Captain (45:48):
There's man.
It's like neither one of ushave ever seen a pool before.
We sound like we're fuckingaliens and we're trying to
explain a pool.
We're actually both AIgenerated.
I don't know.
I'm like holes on the side ofthe pool.
What the fuck are those called?
That's not helping Skimmers.

(46:12):
Is that sound?
Is it a skimmer?

Wilson (46:15):
I don't know.
It's the thing that collectsthe shit in your pool, like on
the side of the pool.

Captain (46:23):
It's like a filter.
Oh, when I'm looking at things,these are not the things I'm
looking for.
I think it's a skimmer thatsounds good, and if it's wrong,
I'm wrong is that not the namefor the thing we were trying to
find earlier?
Probably.
I think you're right.
I don't know, should I type inskimmer versus skimmer and see
if they're both called skimmersure, actually, when I googled

(46:47):
it it came up with both of thosethings.

Wilson (46:49):
It came up with the pole thing we were talking about and
the thing that's in the world.

Captain (46:53):
I swear, I've been in a pool before.
I know it doesn't sound like it, but um, anyway, he the.
You see.
You finally see something.
Grab him and you see, throughthe skimmer slit, a pair of eyes
and half of a face, and it'sall black.

(47:13):
It's like a black-covered bodydemon-looking thing.

Wilson (47:18):
Yeah, I think they tried to make this an iconic monster
in Insidious Like no, this is apotato pool guy.

Captain (47:27):
they tried I will say later on we see a full yeah.
So that happens with elliot andthey're like, oh, elliot,
elliot's like a sad, lonely kidand we just need to throw him a
party and he just needs to playbaseball, like that's literally
his, his parents, uh, uhresponse um, so they, what do
they go to?
They do swimming practice and,um, you do get to see that

(47:52):
elliot's like kind of mid to bad, but uh, ray gets to crack some
baseballs and one of them likeliterally shoots out into outer
space like he hits one and he'slike, damn, I got my mojo back
because of all this supposedwater therapy.
Um, so like he's benefiting fromthe pool while the pool has
having all these creepy thingshappening in it and I I do

(48:15):
remember you were like where howis this pool like doing good
things and bad things?
Like how are they going toexplain that?
Um, so then izzy, the oldersister, we see her have her pool
experience, so she has herlittle boyfriend over and they
do a night swim as well and,yeah, she gets grabbed by this

(48:37):
like bloated potato monster,like you said, like he looks
like a mushy like.
It's kind of like the michelinman from ghostbusters, but all
black and buggy eyes so like acooked marshmallow version of
the michelin man yeah, and likeslightly larger than a regular
human and it's grabbing her.

(48:59):
It does look kind of stupid.
I mean there's no way around it.

Wilson (49:04):
I mean yeah it's not really even scare.
I mean, obviously it wouldscare me if I saw that in the
pool, but like it's not asthreatening as other horror
monsters yeah it's.

Captain (49:15):
It's like they're trying to do creepy, but they're
trying to be like I'm differentand it's just kind of like a
mushy man.
But, like half cartoony, I don'tknow, but she's terrified, like
it grabs her.
Her and this boy are playingMarco Polo, and then obviously
she's doing Marco and themonster is doing Polo, and then

(49:37):
she gets all wiggly wagged inthe pool.
So she's scared after that,doesn't want to go in the pool.
But they've already set up thispool party at their house.
So Elliot's on a sad little,lonely boy.
He doesn't even want to get inthe pool anymore, neither does
Izzy really.
But they invite everybody elseover here and this is kind of

(50:06):
where things go off the rails,like um, the mom is talking to
the realtor because the realtorcomes and the realtor's like hey
, I think she said I don't knowwho started it, I don't know if
Eve started it, but she was likewhat happened in this house?
Like why was?
this pool not used before.

(50:27):
And Eve is like you know, justtell me like what's going on.
And the realtor cause therealtor doesn't want to tell her
.
She finally says well, you justseem like you're really
enjoying the house.
And I found this out like shewas like, but it does seem like

(50:50):
there might be alleged rumors ofa little girl drowning here,
but like I don't know.
And then Eve was like is hername Rebecca?
Which like kind of freaks therealtor out, but that's what she
knows.
Her son said to her when hesaid that there was like some
girl calling him in the pool.
So yeah, that's some backstorythat we get from that.

(51:11):
But at the same, around thesame time, uh, what's his name?
Ray?
Uh, decides that he like wantsto play chicken and he can't
find his son because Elliot isliterally not going to get in
the pool.
Like he's in the house, in hisbedroom, um, and he decides to
play chicken with somebodyelse's son, which I feel like is

(51:33):
really weird, like that's thatkid is like looks like he's like
two years older than Elliot,like he's probably like 14, and
then he's getting on some randomguy's shoulders, like I don't
know Maybe I grew up, I don'tknow I feel like adults should
not be touching random kids likein any capacity.
Maybe I shouldn't be readingthat far into it, but like isn't

(51:55):
that weird.

Wilson (51:56):
It's still kind of weird .

Captain (51:59):
It's still kind of weird, like if you were 14,
would you get on like a looselyrelated, like like a loose
friend father's shoulders?

Wilson (52:09):
yeah, I don't know.
Like, I guess, from a kid'sperspective no idea, but like
from anyone else of an adult age, that looks super weird yeah,
it does look weird, um, so it'salready unsettling just like as
it is.

Captain (52:24):
And then, while they're playing chicken, again it looks
so dumb.
But like this black smoke likeswoops into like all the mucus
membranes and like all of hisorifices of Ray underwater.
So he gets like black in theeyes and he gets like black in
the veins and he's like you know, I'm on one Like it's monster

(52:49):
time.

Wilson (52:49):
Yeah, that's what he said.

Captain (52:52):
Yeah, that's literally what he said.
So he like, instead of likeletting go of this kid that's on
his shoulders, he like grabshim even harder and then, I
guess, tries to drown him.
But it's like.

Wilson (53:04):
Yeah, I don't know what the deal with that is.

Captain (53:05):
He's squeezing and then they're underwater and he won't
let go.
And the only way he lets go isthe kid's father finally sees
it's happening, jumps in andsaves him.

Wilson (53:18):
Well, because what's-his-face?
The son was recording from thewindow.
He went down and told his momand I guess well, I guess
separately the kid's dad didalso wonder where his son was
yeah, he was looking for him.

Captain (53:32):
But elliot also like alarm bells his mom to tell him
like something bad's happening.
But yes, they both almostdrowned in the water, which
leads to um cops there and thethe um I don't remember what the
kid's name is but his mom wantshim to press charge, it wants
them to press charges, and thedad's like no, it's fine, like

(53:54):
we won't press charges, butshe's.
But then she's like never, uh,you're like you know, never
speak to us again.
Like our families are not gonnabe friendly, like you know yeah
, I mean that's fair don't cometo practice anymore.
Like all of that um.
And you know eve is trying tosay like well, he has ms.
Like you know it attacks hisnerves like that's her excuse.
But I will say, if I'm an adultand I have ms and a different

(54:17):
and a random kid's getting on myshoulders, like I'm still in
the wrong, like even if I'm nota possessed demon, I'm still in
the fucking wrong.
Like what?
Why would you do that?
Um?
And that was like before, likehe made that decision before he
was possessed.

Wilson (54:33):
I will say that's true, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

Captain (54:37):
He still walked down there yeah, he, he's still all
of that.
Um, I love how the chachi btsays the pool turns out.
It's not just haunted, it'scursed classic mix-up, am I
right, ladies?
I'm like what?
Um, I don't even know, okay,whatever, um.

(55:00):
So yeah, I think after that, um,the family wants to leave,
right, they like want to get thefuck out there, um, because
she's like you know, eve's likeI've seen something, all the
kids have seen something, andray basically, um, almost like
dies at the property line, likeon their way out, like he

(55:20):
doesn't want to get in the car,he wants to get back in the pool
.
She's like, no, we're leaving.
You almost died, but then likethey can't leave because he like
I think it was like theproperty line right or like as
they were getting yeah, yeah,yeah.

Wilson (55:32):
He got all like black veiny, like it was.
The pool was like you know, ifyou leave, I'll kill you um, yes
, and then so, yeah, he's likein bed or whatever.

Captain (55:43):
And then I think the next day is when Eve's like I'm
going to do my little research.
And so it says Eve Researchleads her to meet with Rebecca's
mom, who was like, yeah, it'san ancient spring, the whole

(56:04):
sacrifices for wishes kind ofdeal.
So here's the twist the poolgrants something in exchange for
something else, like one ofthose you get what you want but
you're going to have to pay forit deals.
And since Ray's health has beenon the up, well, you can guess
what the pool's planning ontaking back.
Um, but I feel like a normalperson would not sacrifice, or

(56:27):
would not like sacrifice theirkid for like them to be healthy,
to play mlb again yeah, I meanhe was like possessed at that
point.

Wilson (56:37):
Like I think at first he was motivated because he felt
better and then, once he waspossessed, the pool was just
like we gonna eat hungry um evedoes say, or when we like watch
her do her research.

Captain (56:51):
Like, apparently, like dozens of people have died in
this pool, like over the yearsand it's not just that they die,
it's that they disappear aroundthe pool.
Like there's no bodies foundafterwards, like right I don't
know, I don't know.
It just says disappears.

Wilson (57:06):
I think but then I was like I don't know why they say
they definitively say rebeccadrowned in the pool because you
have no body that's true there'slike the only way that you
would have no body would meanlike somebody else was involved
yeah, and like there.
Yeah, sure, one of her slipperswas in the pool, but I feel like
at that point I would assume,oh, somebody like she ran away

(57:30):
or somebody took her and justher shoe fell in the pool in the
way, like, oh, she drowned.
But I don't have any evidenceshe like probably died.

Captain (57:38):
I drowned she like yeah probably, you know.
You know how rebecca be yeah,she's got up and left after she
I will say that I don't know theif they say it in here, but um,
rebecca's mom literallyconfesses to murder, though like
she, she says um, she says likeher son's health was really bad

(58:03):
and she desperately wanted himto be healthy again.
So like she, purposefully, it'slike she said, like the well
gives you or whatever, thespring gives you your deepest
desires, but it has to takesomething, has to take a life to
keep on giving.
And she like purposelysacrificed her daughter for her
son's health.
And then we cut back to likethe beginning of the movie and

(58:25):
like she locks her son inside ofhis room because he's trying to
get out to save his sister,which is like fucking crazy that
she did that.

Wilson (58:34):
But she did say at this point she was already a vessel
for yes, and she still isbecause, like yeah, goop starts
leaking out of her eyes yeah,she's got the black I don't
really get that yeah, I guess itpossesses you forever.

Captain (58:50):
I don't really know, but she's off the property and
ray can't leave because I guesshe didn't sacrifice something
yet.
I don't know.
It's very confusing.
They didn't think a lot.
We had questions that I don'tthink are going to get answered.
Yeah, but yeah, she's likereally going through it.
But her son, I will say she didget what she wanted.

(59:12):
Her son is like this famousdoctor, that's's like curing
diseases and fixing people, andshe has this beautiful house and
it's all paid for by him.
So, like winner.

Wilson (59:24):
Yeah.

Captain (59:25):
I mean she got it and then.
So the wife also decides todrain the pool, which I wasn't
sure, but it looks like she'sdraining it into the municipal
sewer so when people are pullingwater later on in the movie
from the faucet.
Is that the monster?
Because Eve drained the pool inthe sewer.

(59:47):
Did you pick up on that?

Wilson (59:51):
No, I just kind of assumed, like it's like.
I assumed it wasn't necessarilyjust the water, it was like
that in combination with theweird tube that leads to the
spring, so like if you tookwater out, I mean I guess maybe
it is all haunted, but I don'tknow, I don't know who fucking

(01:00:13):
knows um.

Captain (01:00:15):
So, whatever, she drains the pool and then, um,
you know she's trying to saveher kids now that she knows that
this monster is going to takesomething.
Um, so she gets home real fast,but at this point ray is
already like big monster, likebig scary um yeah dark figure
throwing his daughter around.
Their son is drowning in thepool and like, while izzy is

(01:00:39):
fighting, monster dad, uh, evehas to save elliot.
And then we get like you knowthe big, so like I guess, when
the pool's possessed and you'rein it, it becomes like lake
sized, it's like gigantic Idon't, I don't get it it's like
it's.
it looks like it's like 15 feetor I don't even know.

(01:01:00):
It looks like it's like 30 feetdeep and like forever wide,
like you're like legit in a lake.
Um, and she has to save elliotlike all the way at the bottom.
Um, she tries to save herselfby holding up a pool, no, a hose
, I know that word.

(01:01:20):
So she takes one final gusp ofair out of the hose, I guess,
because that's what it lookedlike, and then she just dove for
Elliot.

Wilson (01:01:29):
Yeah, but she's under there for so long yeah no, she's
taking seven minutes underwater.

Captain (01:01:34):
Yeah, does she also get Potato man?
I think she does like sevenminutes underwater.
Yeah, I does she also getPotato man?
I think she does.
I think she does.

Wilson (01:01:42):
Yeah, she definitely.
I'm pretty sure she gets.
I think this is where we getmost of Potato man.

Captain (01:01:46):
Yeah, she gets a couple of people like grab at her,
like the people over the years,including Potato man, but
actually Rebecca is nice andshows her the way back up safely
.

Wilson (01:01:57):
But why is she the only nice one Out of?

Captain (01:02:00):
all those other souls?

Wilson (01:02:02):
are you saying that Rebecca's the only one that
wasn't a murderer and like wantsto save someone?

Captain (01:02:06):
Yeah, I don't know, I feel like no, I couldn't tell
you honestly.
Was she the only like child?
Child maybe.

Wilson (01:02:19):
I guess.
But what are they trying to getat like adults are just
naturally pure evil well, maybeall the adults deserved it.

Captain (01:02:26):
I don't know.
Sure you're asking too manyquestions, but I I do like the
cinematography of like I Itexted in the chat.
I was like, are they anythingupside down?
Like when you're swimming inthe pool and you're like in the
like contaminated, possessedwater, it like flips you so like

(01:02:48):
you don't know which way is upand which way is down.
And I do like the cinematographyof like Rebecca is re like like
equilibriizing them and likeflips them back the right way to
go.
And I like how the cameralength shows that way where it
spirals.
That was fun Because we see itin the beginning of the movie a

(01:03:10):
little bit, but you see it atthe very first opening shot.
But you really see it like theprofile of everybody in this one
and I do like that.
So they're reoriented and thenthey can swim back to the
surface and, um, elliot is stilllike, has a bunch of like black
goop in him, but, um, basicallyhis dad gets beaten with a

(01:03:31):
baseball bat enough that he'slike just himself, enough that
he realizes that he, the pool,has to take something.
So, in order to save his son,he sacrifices himself in the
water.
He just like walks in and goesto the abyss.

Wilson (01:03:49):
Oh, the abyss, the abyss uh, and then he's, yeah, he
disappears, and Elliot's a-okay.

Captain (01:03:56):
Elliot is a-okay, but I mean they're not happy their
dads did or disappeared.

Wilson (01:04:04):
No, but they actually don't seem that upset either.

Captain (01:04:06):
Well, he did just like almost kill his daughter and his
wife.
Like he like ripped hair out ofhis daughter and threw her
around and then choked their momout Like she couldn't breathe
and the only way she got out ofit is because izzy their
daughter like beat him with abat his baseball bat, by the way
, his mlb bat yep, well, hedeserved it, so I mean, yeah,

(01:04:29):
possessed, yeah, um, oh, andthen the movie finally ends with
them filling the pool in,basically like if they moved,
the cycle would just repeatitself.
because that's what happened forthe last like I don't even know
12 families.
So they took my advice that Iwrote down before they did it, I

(01:04:50):
will say and filled, the poolin?

Wilson (01:04:55):
They sure did.
They were like he wouldn't wantus to give the house to
somebody else well, I I meanprobably, but I think he also
wouldn't want somebody else tosacrifice I am glad it didn't
end with them just like movingaway and like leaving the pool

(01:05:16):
and we see a tease of some newfamily moving in.

Captain (01:05:19):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like this is giving a little bit
.
It's similar to oculus, or likeif there's a natural spring
nearby that everything is being,uh like supplied with that
water, like everything couldhave the possessed monster in it
, then like everything yeah, thespirit, like because even when

(01:05:41):
we're in um mrs woo's house,like the rebecca's mom, uh like
she has that um like wishingwell fountain thing in her house
and it has black water comingout of it like anything that's
connected to the water supply.
I'm like, well, fuck, I mean Igotta get out of the system of
the spring, I guess yeah I don'tknow what was going on there.

Wilson (01:06:06):
I was like I was wondering if she like put the
pool water in her fountain butlike what?
But they were still focusing alot on like freshly.
But I don't know, maybe shedrinks the pool water, the
spring water, every day can youdrink spring water like as it is
like, just if you cupped?
I mean, I guess you'rephysically able to, but that's

(01:06:28):
like I don't know if you should.

Captain (01:06:29):
Um, what is this supposed to be our advice, this
thing that they put in here?

Wilson (01:06:37):
um it's a cautionary tale oh, I don't think we asked
for advice when we put the ai in, but sometimes you could steal
it deeper than you think I dolike.
I do like that the paragraph umthe yeah right before it, when

(01:06:58):
Eve makes the wise choice tofill the pool in, because once
you lose your husband to ahaunted pool.

Captain (01:07:03):
Maybe it's time to switch to a nice above-ground
spa, bro, or stick to theshowers.

Wilson (01:07:10):
See, some of this is fun .

Captain (01:07:12):
She decides to stay in the house and make sure nobody
else falls victim.
Yeah, that's a little fun, butlike I would ask it to be like
more gooped and gagged, like Iwant I want it like more
personality.
If you're gonna do it like, doit all the way just flavor it up
.

Wilson (01:07:29):
Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll do some tests, just to see what
it can do.

Captain (01:07:33):
Okay, okay, yeah.
So some numbs the budget wasabout 15 mil and the box office
was almost 55 mil.
Wow, so they definitely mademore than twice as much than

(01:07:53):
they spent.
I will say they did a good jobof advertising for this movie,
but I don't think either.
One of us watched it openingweekend and then we saw the
reviews were really bad, sothat's why we never watched it.
And then, apparently worldwideoh no, that was worldwide and
then $33 million from the US andCanada and then others.

(01:08:16):
Okay, it does have a 20% onrotten tomatoes.
Um, audience is 43 that'ssurprising, but okay about how
kind they are yeah letterbox isat 1.7, bro.
That's bad, that's bad that'sreal bad bad.
Um, I don't know if you sincewe're talking about it do you

(01:08:41):
know where you'd put this?
Maybe, or do you want to wait?

Wilson (01:08:44):
um, I did rate it oh, you already rated it.
I did give it to me um, so my,my letterboxd score is a one out
of five.

Captain (01:08:55):
Uh, and does that mean it's a 10, no 20 um, yeah,
actually, percentage wise I putit lower.

Wilson (01:09:01):
I said a 14 oh my god it was not good it has like movie,
like cinematic quality and Ithought the idea was was
interesting, but I don't like it.

Captain (01:09:16):
I didn't like anything you don't like any other parts
of it?
Yeah, 43 is so kind.
Where are they getting that?

Wilson (01:09:25):
I couldn't tell you, could not tell you.
Do you have a rating for?

Captain (01:09:28):
it already.
I'm trying to think, yeah, I'dprobably go, like I'd say like
22 okay that sounds it, it'strying it is.

Wilson (01:09:46):
I mean, maybe I'm being overly harsh, but you're fine,
you're totally, I was up.
I was upset by.
I thought a lot of it was verypredictable, like once you, I
don't know.
I think they hint at what'shappening too much.

Captain (01:10:00):
The sequences are all so similar when night swimming,
like the activity of nightswimming, like the sequences are
all exactly the same, and thenI will say, like we don't see
anything.
Like we see the opening scenethat's scary, with Rebecca, and
then we don't see anything scary, for, like I think I looked, it

(01:10:20):
was like 33 minutes oh wow,like the setup with the family
goes on for a really long time.
So you're just kind of sittinghere being like what's the deal?
Like give it to me, or likehint at it more, or I don't know
they should have, I don't knowyou don't get like the big final
, like here's the totality ofthe monster, like you don't ever

(01:10:45):
get that.

Wilson (01:10:46):
So yeah I think you're fine 14 22 it's not right, it's
not, it's really not um, I dohave some hot goose according to
me bryce um.

Captain (01:11:00):
He said that the film was um.
He had some inspirationalsources like poltergeist.
Creature from the black lagoon.
Have you ever watched that?

Wilson (01:11:09):
no, I probably won't um jaws christine.

Captain (01:11:13):
We did that one.

Wilson (01:11:14):
We did.

Captain (01:11:15):
I did like that movie, the Night of the Hunter and the
Abyss Whoa, whoa, I legit I'mnot even kidding so unrelated
that I just happened to want towatch it.
And then they said that thereal life house used for the
family's home in the filmdoesn't fully connect to the
garage, so the pool can be seenfrom the front of the house and

(01:11:39):
a facade was added to make itlook like one full structure.
Okay, whatever, I don't reallycare.
Some shots did have the poolrequired a deeper pool, so they
shot four days in a 13-footOlympic-sized pool in Chatsworth
.
Where's Chatsworth?
No?

Wilson (01:11:59):
idea, I don't know.

Captain (01:12:01):
While a blue screen was employed for some shots, the
film did not rely on computeranimation to generate a
simulation of water.
Instead of filming wet for wetor as opposed to dry for wet
don't know what that means.
In order to intensify thesupernatural feel, Maguire and
cinematographer Charlie Saroffused older and wider lenses to

(01:12:23):
make the pool seem as vast asthe ocean.
Well, they sure did that.

Wilson (01:12:27):
Yeah, I'll say, maybe a little bit too big.

Captain (01:12:33):
And then, in 2018, they sold the feature-length
adaptation from the short thatthey did in 2014 of a woman
terrorized in her pool by anevil spirit, to James Wan Atomic
Monster.
And then oh, this is weirdWyatt's dad, kurt Russell, was a

(01:12:55):
very good minor league baseballplayer and would have made it
to the major leagues if not foran injury.
I think he did fine, you know.

Wilson (01:13:03):
He did turn out okay.
I think he did A-okay.

Captain (01:13:07):
Fucking get out of here .
And then I did look up this.
This is a quote from BryceMcGuire when he was doing an
interview about the movie.
He said Shooting in water istwice as slow, twice as
expensive, twice as dangerousthan shooting on land.
It's a huge logisticalchallenge.
Everything from keeping thewater clear enough to have

(01:13:28):
visibility, having the rightflashlights to the amount of
time talent could safely holdtheir breath required specific
problem solving and strategiesthat you'd never think about
unless you're making a moviecalled Night Swim.
And I was like fair.

Wilson (01:13:44):
Fair enough, I feel like that would be quite horrid.

Captain (01:13:50):
And then, lastly, the school that the kids attend is
named Harold Holt.
Holt was a prime minister,minister, oh, avid swimmer, and
disappeared, presumably dead,while swimming in the ocean.
I never heard that.
I've never even heard of haroldholt, but I guess and you're
basically australian, so like Ibasically am.

(01:14:11):
Can't you hear it?
Yeah, it sounds exactly like itum, whoa, this is kind of
interesting, but this was awhile ago uh, yeah, I just
looked him up.
That was a couple years ago justa couple, so like they legit,
never found him I, I have not, Idon't know anything about this

(01:14:35):
guy.
It says he was in Queensland inDecember in 1967 and he had
four companions that decided togo to a certain area and then he
spearfished somewhere that hehad been previously, and then he

(01:14:57):
disappeared from view while hewas caught in a rip current Boy.
Oh my gosh.
His disappearance sparked oneof the largest search operations
in Australian history, but notrace of his body was ever found
.

Wilson (01:15:12):
That's kind of crazy yeah.

Captain (01:15:14):
I mean spear phishing does seem like it's really
intense.

Wilson (01:15:17):
So so is drowning.

Captain (01:15:20):
But I'm just saying, if you're going spearfishing, I
feel like you already know thatyou're in danger.

Wilson (01:15:29):
Just that activity alone oh yeah, I guess so, I guess so
um, I wonder if there's adocumentary on this man.
There's probably something, atleast an episode of some show.

Captain (01:15:42):
I did notice in the school that they were in.
I think they're like a schoolmascot.
I swear they said that theywere the Trouts.
I was like, really, really,there was a song playing at the
beginning.
That was like talking aboutswimming and drowning, so like
oh, one of those like we'regonna sing about exactly what is

(01:16:04):
happening, like love is blind.
Oh wait, hold on.
Do you have a rag?

Wilson (01:16:14):
I was just thinking about that.
I can like find one.

Captain (01:16:20):
I, you have a rag.
I was just thinking about that.

Wilson (01:16:21):
I can like find one I do have a rag.

Captain (01:16:23):
Okay, you go.
Okay.
The best part of the movie iswhen scary monster dad is like
full scary, so he's like.
Especially I like the scenewhere he's like a black figure,
it's like a blacked outsilhouette, like you can't see
him at all, but you see hisoutline and he's like down this
figure um, like he's, it's likea blacked out silhouette, like
you can't see him at all, butyou see his outline and he's
like down this hallway from hisdaughter and Izzy goes dad and

(01:16:43):
she starts to like run towardshim thinking that he's gonna
comfort her while you knowElliot's drowning, and instead
he like says something kind ofuh, ominous and she like turns
away from him and then sees thatthere's like black water on the
ground.
That's like rushing towards herand when she looks back up he's
gone and then she like turns toher side and he's back in her

(01:17:06):
face like screaming monsterpossession at her and like
throwing her against a wall andI was like, oh my god, is he
like gooping from human to waterform, back to human?
I was like, damn, that's likekind of like.
I don't know.
I liked that.
I was like it's like secret.

Wilson (01:17:22):
What secret world of alex mac up in here, if you ever
saw that show it's like an oldnickelodeon show she could like
turn in the liquid I have seen.

Captain (01:17:30):
There are other movies or whatever we've watched where
people are liquid and then backto human, but I can't like think
of where, like what those wereand I don't know how you would
search that.
I mean, I don't know, I thinklike terminator oh, maybe two
but we never did it because it'snot really no, it doesn't
really count, um, but yeah, Ithink that that's my race to.

(01:17:53):
Glass is when he goops fromhuman to liquid to human and
then screams and scares hisdaughter um, I will say I liked.

Wilson (01:18:03):
Just like the.
Um, uh, what's that word?
Just like, yeah, the trouts.
Um, whenever you know he'sbeing super possessed, he's been
attacking the family and thedaughter comes up and hits him
with a bat the first time.
Just how cathartic that is.

Captain (01:18:21):
It is good she gets a good crack.
She gets a couple really goodcracks she does.

Wilson (01:18:26):
Beyond that, I don't have anything nice to say.

Captain (01:18:29):
We have seen worse.

Wilson (01:18:31):
I mean, it's not good, we have, we have, but I don't
know, but your, expectation forthis was probably a little bit
higher.
It was yeah, but it was alreadylow.
Like I knew, this was supposedto be a bad movie.

Captain (01:18:42):
Yikes.
Yep, Yep, yep yep, Next week weare doing.
I Dropped the Devil, right.

Wilson (01:18:54):
Yes, that's our little Christmas Holiday episode.
Yeah.

Captain (01:19:00):
Yeah, devil, right.
Yes, that's our littlechristmas holiday episode.

Wilson (01:19:01):
Yeah, yeah, oh we, I guess we do have a little
christmas jangle jangle we do wedo, we do?

Captain (01:19:05):
um, I don't really know what advice to give, because I
feel like they already uh, tookmy advice in the movie.
Um, right, I mean they, theyfilled in the pool I mean, if
you got an ancient springrunning through, you gotta fill
the pool.
I don't know what to tell youum it's an everyday problem it

(01:19:28):
is.
I mean, we all go through this,you know.
Um, I would say other goodadvice.
Okay, this is good advice and Idid this myself as a little
child, but I think your kidsshould go through swimming
lessons so they are proficientin swimming, so they don't grow
up stuck in a rip current andthey can't get out.

Wilson (01:19:51):
Okay, fine, like a prime minister, be practical about it
.

Captain (01:19:55):
Swimming lessons.
That's my advice.