The Autopsy of Jane Doe

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In this episode, we dive deep into the morgue with our review of "The Autopsy of Jane Doe," the 2016 supernatural horror film starring Brian Cox and Emile Hirsch. 

Before tackling this clinical nightmare, we talk about a Cult-O-Rama film event and Sydney Sweeney's controversial bath soap.

The film discussion begins around 13:51.

Episode Transcript

Captain (00:18):
how's it going?

Wilson (00:18):
it's going pretty good, going pretty good.
Got my trusty donut here againthis week.

Captain (00:25):
Long time, no see, alright, I still have Florida
Seltzies going.

Wilson (00:32):
Oh, I did find the name of that drink I was trying to
name last week.

Captain (00:35):
Swifty Swooshy.

Wilson (00:36):
Yeah, so this is the drink that I was talking about,
that basically tastes like flatLaCroix.

Captain (00:44):
They're going to come for you.

Wilson (00:45):
Yeah, lawsuit um, it's called smooth water oh, it
sounds bad yeah, also I don'tlike the.
I don't like putting the namewater and drinks that have
alcohol in them, or like puttingit in the title of the drink
yeah, that's not a good.
I want mine to sound beautifuland fruity well, yeah, and also,

(01:07):
but just from like a, I don'twant to.
I mean, I don't think I wouldever accidentally grab that and
think it was just water.
They call that the drinks haveon them vodka water well, yeah,
but if you just see like smoothwater, okay, no, no I don't want
a vodka water I want a vodkasoda I thought you're telling me
I was like stupid.

Captain (01:28):
Because it says everything about the, everything
about the marketing.
I don't like yeah it's a verycrisp, simple label, like some
people like I.

Wilson (01:42):
I could see picking that up, but well, I'll tell you,
the drink isn't crisp flat.
Um well, get ready for alawsuit, because they are gonna
sue so answer me, why smoothwater has alcohol in it, but
liquid death is just water I'mso over.

Captain (02:01):
I I their liquid death thing is just so stupid.
I don't know, I don't know.
You've seen the SydneySweeney's bath soap.

Wilson (02:11):
No.

Captain (02:12):
Oh.

Wilson (02:13):
She sells her.
I mean, I guess I'm notsurprised.

Captain (02:16):
She sells bath soap, but she claims that her own bath
water that she bathed in isinfused in the soap.
She's going to get so manysales from that like, oh yeah, I
think it's like constantly soldout, but like you can't even I
don't know if I would like, justbecause she's marketing that

(02:38):
way, like you would never beable to test that.

Wilson (02:40):
That's true there's like I don't, there's no way that
would be like legal how?

Captain (02:44):
many baths is this woman taking for her to supply
this much soap like?

Wilson (02:48):
it's not possible like they wouldn't put contaminated
water in something they'reselling to people I mean I as
long.

Captain (02:56):
I mean I don't think it has to be like fda approved or
whatever.
I mean I kind of feel like likedon't amish people make soap
out of like lard, like but Ithink they have different rules.

Wilson (03:09):
I just mean, I feel like she probably did something like
oh, I take a bath with rosepetals or rose water, so this
soap has rose water in itbecause that's my bath.
I don't know.
Some loose definition I don'tknow.

Captain (03:23):
She says loose definition.
I don't know.
She says that soap has her bathwater in it and it's constantly
out of stock.
But yeah, you're right.
Like she said, she's sellingthousands of the soap.
I'm like how much bath watercould possibly be available to
make this soap?

Wilson (03:42):
Yeah, whatever People are going to buy it, they're
going to fall for it.

Captain (03:46):
Right People have All pervs.

Wilson (03:49):
Not everyone is going to be a perv who buys it, but I
feel like just kind of likecreepy people, the people that
buy used underwear and stuff.

Captain (04:01):
Oh God yeah.

Wilson (04:10):
Learned way too much about that.
In Orange't just new black.
Oh yeah, true, um, all right.
So one of the things I wantedto talk about this time was and
I I briefly mentioned this toyou while I was there but um,
last weekend a local theater didlike um, so a double feature,
and it was a special eventcalled yeah, there's a special
event called cultarama, uh, butbasically for this one, the
theme was uh, well, they'realways cult classics.

(04:32):
These were horror classics thatum were a sequel, so they had
oh, that was the theme.
Yeah, so they had six movies, Ithink, picked out on a wheel and
then she spun the wheel beforeeach movie and then you'd find
out what you're watching whileyou're there that's so cool yeah

(04:52):
, well, okay, so the first spin,uh, there wasn't a good
reaction from the audience orsomething, I don't know, so she
was like all right, I'll spin itone more time, but this isn't
happening for the second movie.
Um, so the first one is, whichis the one I texted you about,
is the sequel to Prom Nightcalled Hello Mary Lou, prom

(05:13):
Night 2, or something like that.

Captain (05:15):
Yeah, I put it on the list, yeah.

Wilson (05:17):
That was actually.
I thought that was really fun.

Captain (05:21):
Definitely way different vibes than the
original prom night um this isthe one where the like with the,
the pictures, the girlscreaming with the crown right,
like that's the front of the um,you might be thinking of the
remake of prom night oh, that's,yeah.
Uh, britney snow, that's, that'sthe one we watched yes, but uh,

(05:42):
there was like I think jamielee curtis was the original prom
night oh yeah, I remember wehad a conversation about it,
like when we found out jamie leecurtis was that we were like
damn, why didn't we do that one?

Wilson (05:52):
yeah yeah, so did you watch the first one, the jamie
lee curtis prom night before uh,I don't think so well, I don't
think I've seen it, but Idefinitely didn't watch it right
before this movie, because Ididn't know any of the movies
that were even an option.

Captain (06:07):
Oh, okay, do they tell you that ahead of time, like one
of these six, or no?

Wilson (06:10):
No, wow.
So we're just speculating whatsequels they might feature.

Captain (06:16):
Wow.

Wilson (06:17):
Yeah, so that was good.
And then the second one wasTexas Chainsaw Massacre 2, which
was like I feel like it waskind of parading itself or like
making fun of itself, but it was, I liked it.

Captain (06:33):
I think I might have.
What year did that come out?

Wilson (06:37):
A long fucking time ago.

Captain (06:40):
It's called the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, part 2.

Wilson (06:43):
Or 2.
I think it's just 2.
I don't think it's part.

Captain (06:47):
Oh, the one online says Part 2.

Wilson (06:49):
Oh, I guess, so I think that sounds right.

Captain (06:53):
I mean maybe there's a 2.
I don't know.

Wilson (06:55):
No, I think.
Yeah, I guess it did say Part 2.
Yeah, that's the one I watched,looking at the cast.

Captain (07:08):
They've made and remade and sequeled this movie a
gazillion times, like I don'teven know what's happening in
that universe?

Wilson (07:11):
yeah, I don't know, and I think only one and two have
the same, like cast or like samefamily, whatever okay, well I
would recommend it.
Fun, yeah, that was cool.
And they oh yeah, um, and theydo this culturama apparently

(07:32):
like every month, um, but it'snot always horror movies or
sequels how much are tickets forthis?
Like you don't get to chooseanything um, I think it was like
30 bucks.

Captain (07:43):
They also gave us cake at the beginning and I guess you
get to see two movies for 30.

Wilson (07:48):
Yeah, okay and I think it's like cake for oh um, the
cake was because it's thisevent's been happening for two
years.
It's like it was it's secondgod, it's a baby, yeah, baby I
think it.
I think the price is also kindof, you know, paying for the
promoter too, because, like shewas there, she organized it all

(08:11):
you know that stuff yeah um,yeah, that was really cool um.

Captain (08:16):
Supposedly there's been nine texas chainsaw movies you
mean like not?

Wilson (08:22):
yeah, does that include like a remake.
Yes, that includes all of them.

Captain (08:26):
There was the first one , two, three but three is done
with Roman numerals and then thereturn of Texas Chainsaw, and
then the Texas Chainsaw Massacrereboot, and then I guess there
was a prequel because it'scalled the Beginning.

Wilson (08:42):
Okay.

Captain (08:44):
And then 3Dd of course we have to have a 3d leather
face, and then I guess theyrebooted it again in 2022.
I kind of vaguely remember thatuh, I didn't.

Wilson (08:55):
I was excited for it had um lc fisher in it um but I did
not watch it because I heard itwas terrible yeah, sounds about
right.

Captain (09:06):
What's this?

Wilson (09:07):
l-p-o-l-t-o oh, uh, yeah , I didn't want to give it away.
Actually, it's not thatexciting.
That hypes it up, um.
So today, while I was on like along drive, I uh looked at my
like saved podcasts and maybeyou told me about this.
I couldn't remember, um, but Iwatched, or I listened to my
first episode of Last Podcast onthe left.

(09:27):
Do you listen to that?

Captain (09:31):
I don't think so actually.

Wilson (09:33):
Oh.

Captain (09:34):
Is it a comedy podcast?

Wilson (09:38):
I mean they are funny.
So I guess it's a comedypodcast, but I don't know.
Honestly, I don't know what thetheme of the podcast is, but
this episode is very good.
It was on the bubonic plague sothey like with jokes like broke
down the whole history and it'slike a four-part series.
But I listened to the firstepisode.

(10:00):
It was really good and I waslike I couldn't remember if you
recommended it or not.

Captain (10:06):
Because I know you have .
I don't think so.
It says that they cover allhorrors our world has to offer,
both imagined and real.

Wilson (10:13):
it says Okay, well, that tracks with the theme of the
episode.

Captain (10:19):
I mean, they look good, Like this looks good.

Wilson (10:26):
They like, at least for this one, when they tell the
history, the history they also.
They're like riffing off ofeach other and like just making
up jokes it sounds good.

Captain (10:35):
I put it on my eye.
I'll follow it.
I've been listening to um itwas pretty popular but um that
uh true crime show about uh thatlady that like pretended to be
a war veteran and she likebasically like scammed a bunch

(10:55):
of like veteran affairs and likeum, she like scammed a bunch of
uh money out of like likeorganizations that are
specifically to support veterans.

Wilson (11:10):
I didn't know anything about that oh yeah, it was.

Captain (11:12):
It was pretty good.
I can't remember the girls.
The lady's name is sarahkavanaugh she's in jail
currently, but, um, the podcastabout her is pretty good did
they?

Wilson (11:22):
did she pretend to be someone else like?
I'm confused how?

Captain (11:25):
because they like she worked as, I think, a social
worker for veterans affairs andthen through that she like went.
She basically like her story isshe went to an event one time
that was like for veterans andeveryone just assumed she was a
veteran so that they treated herreally well and she like didn't
tell them that was not thetruth and then it just

(11:48):
snowballed from there becausethen she like they like invited
her to stuff and then she just,like you know, dove into the lie
basically.
But honestly, her story makesdoesn't make like you can tell.
She's like kind of shy a littleokay at least in my opinion, she
swears that she's not, but, um,I can't remember what the
podcast is called, but, um, Ithink it's called the truth or

(12:11):
deep cover or something likethat.
Um, but it's still going.
They're still they've the mainstory is over, but they are
releasing a few episodes about,like, some of the stories they
didn't include.
Like they interviewed a bunchof people about her, um, and
some of those interviews theydidn't include in the original
story that they're like stillreleasing.

(12:32):
Oh, deep cut, I think it'scalled.
Yeah, deep cover, yeah, she's,you know, said she was never in
a single war, she was not in amilitary position in any way,
that sounds kind of interesting.

(12:53):
Yeah, I'd recommend.
Deep cover is what it's called,but that's what I mostly
recently listened to.
I dog walk a lot, so I need tofind things to listen to while
I'm dog walking.
Um, anyway, the podcast soundsgood, I'll get to listen.
What are you looking at?

Wilson (13:11):
uh, I was just.
I got caught in that rabbithole of the sarah kavanaugh's.
I'll have to.
I'll have to read into thatlater or listen to the podcast.
Um yeah, but that's all I got.
That's all I got.

Captain (13:25):
That sounds good.

Wilson (13:26):
Yep, see you next week.

Captain (13:30):
Hey, okay, hit me, Hit me, hit me with it All right,
all right, oh wait.

Wilson (13:35):
So what do you?
You said you're having a, ohyeah, your floor seltzer.
Untitled.
Artista floreta selt stuffl'artiste else, or yeah, nice.

Captain (13:48):
Speaking of flat water, well, in this case I'm drinking
lacroix.
So it's the.
Oh, it's at least carbonated.
I thought you pulled one out orsomething.

Wilson (13:51):
No, I was like, please don't nope, nope, um, all right,
so let's, uh, let's, hop in.
So welcome to the 172nd episodeof the red rum podcast, where
we review horror movies whileenjoying an adult beverage or
two.

Captain (14:08):
And I'm Captain.

Wilson (14:10):
And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 2016
supernatural horror film theAutopsy of Jane Doe.
I feel like I heard a lot aboutthis movie and it took me a
while to actually watch it.

Captain (14:23):
Yeah, I actually didn't see a lot of hype about it.
It took me a while to actuallywatch it.
Yeah, I actually didn't see alot of hype about it before I
watched it, because I originallywatched this, I want to say
like two or three years ago.
But after I watched it and Ilooked it up, I was like oh,
this movie is hyped up onlineand like I understand.

Wilson (14:36):
So it always the, just the um, how it's stylized or the
writing always makes me thinkof um the exorcism of emily rose
, probably because it's likeit's stylized or the writing
always makes me think of theexorcism of Emily Rose.
Probably because it's like it'sthe title.
Noun of name or whatever.

Captain (14:51):
I don't necessarily love titles like that, but it
does work for this movie.
I don't know what else youcould possibly title this.

Wilson (14:57):
Jane Doe's Autopsy Wow.

Captain (15:03):
Walked right into that one sure did alright.

Wilson (15:08):
So let's see.
This was directed by AndreOverdahl, I'm gonna say so.
He did Scary Stories to Tell inthe Dark.
I like that movie a lot andmostly known for the
Trollhunters movie.
And is it a TV showTrollhunters movie?
And is a TV show Trollhunters?

Captain (15:26):
I believe.
So I want to say this guy'sNorwegian.

Wilson (15:31):
I feel like with the O and his name I'm like that
sounds right.

Captain (15:36):
I'm pretty sure.
I just looked into the movie.
What is his, andre?

Wilson (15:45):
Andre.

Captain (15:47):
Oh, the River Doll.
Yeah, he's Norwegian.
The Norwegian film theTrollhunters is a Norwegian film
.

Wilson (15:58):
You know what that makes me think I've maybe seen
Trollhunter.

Captain (16:01):
What Is it?
Found footage.

Wilson (16:04):
It says students' footage was discovered and
compiled into a movie um, Isearched it and I actually came
up with a dreamworks tv show.
Um, hold on, I can't, why isthis not coming up?
But?

Captain (16:17):
if you saw it, is it, wouldn't it be in norwegian,
like it wouldn't be in english?

Wilson (16:22):
I think it was dubbed.
I mean kel wait, yeah, kelseygrammar's in there, anton yelkin
like you've seen this moviewell, there, I was just reading
the cast but like does thatsound familiar um I think, so
I'm trying to look at likescreen grabs.
I don't remember seeing thegiant troll.

(16:42):
I don't remember seeing thegiant troll.

Captain (16:46):
I think, okay, that is the cover.

Wilson (16:48):
I either saw it or I got really close to seeing it.

Captain (16:52):
There are.
I agree with you that there area few movies where I've watched
the trailer for that movie likenot exaggerating probably six
times, and then I'm like, oh man, did I watch this movie?
And I'm like I don't think I did, I just keep watching the
trailer yeah um, but yeah, itsays a group of students
investigates a series ofmysterious bear killings, but

(17:13):
they learn that there's muchmore dangerous things going on
in the woods.
So it's like a found footage,troll scary troll movie.
You know it's funny, we havethat troll month coming up next
season, but that would, but itwould be more than two movies.

Wilson (17:26):
Troll summer.

Captain (17:28):
Oh my God, You've heard of hot girl summer yeah there
we go.
It's time for troll summer.
I wouldn't want to watch it ifit wasn't dubbed though.
I can't sit there and readsubtitles.

Wilson (17:56):
Yeah well, I can sometimes.
I have to be the mood like,yeah, I need to sign up for it.
Um so the movie I was thinkingof was actually that nazi, or um
I don't know, I zombie no, thatwas a tv show you make me think
of the lincoln lincoln vampireslayer.

(18:16):
That's what I'm oh no, okay,the movie I was thinking of is
called Dead Snow, so it didn'thave a cheesy name, but I still
think I might have seen DrollHunter.

Captain (18:30):
Well, it says it's dubbable.
It is dubbed in English, somaybe you did.

Wilson (18:35):
So you don't watch any subtitled movies.

Captain (18:39):
I mean it has to be really worth it.
I did Narcos right.
I watched Narcos right there,like I watched narcos right.

Wilson (18:45):
There's a lot of subtitles in there sure, okay um
, but that's probably like themost subtitles I ever did fine
like I won't watch anime unlessit's dubbed, I won't, I refuse I
mean I guess, yeah, I meandon't blame me for that, but um,
yeah, I don't know, it's toughI'm losing.

Captain (19:08):
I'm losing a whole part of cinema.
Is that what you're saying?

Wilson (19:12):
um, well, okay.
So the last two, two or threeyears where we watched all of
the oscar noms in each, likeeach year, there were a couple
dubbed movies that were actuallyreally good or not.
Sorry they weren't dubbed, thatwas subtitled right, right,
right.

Captain (19:29):
Which ones are they for oscar knobs?
Um, yeah no, which one?
Which ones?

Wilson (19:36):
um well, two years ago, anatomy of a fall was really
good um this year this year.
Oh sorry, it was somethingabout a.

Captain (19:44):
They think the wife murdered the husband that's the
title of the movie Trollhuntershas really good reviews oh, that
is pretty good yeah, we mightput this on the list it might be
a troll summer we could do thatum all right, sorry, continue

(20:10):
um, yeah, so that's the directorso we go in the cast um.

Wilson (20:15):
So there's four, four main people.
Emile hirsch plays austintilden um.
He was in once upon a time inhollywood as jay sebring why
does?

Captain (20:27):
emile hirsch sound so familiar I mean you just watched
him in the autopsy of jane yeah, last year.

Wilson (20:35):
Um, I just think I feel like I'm thinking of him from
something else, but whatever, oh, uh, yep, no, I don't know.
Anyway, that brings us to BrianCox.
He plays Tommy Tilden.
Um, he's in Braveheart BornSeries, trick or Treat.
He was in he's Logan Roy insuccession.

Captain (20:56):
I don't know if you can hear it my dog's squeaking a
toy like crazy.
Right now I can't hear anything.

Wilson (21:08):
Okay, now I can't hear anything.
Okay, well, at least zoom can't.
Okay, um, and then, uh, he'salso in x-men 2, which is a
wonderful movie.

Captain (21:13):
He's mostly known for succession.
I don't remember trick or treatbecause we watched it 200
movies ago, but, um, we, weprobably should give it a
re-watch.
Like we probably like episode200, we should like redo our
first.

Wilson (21:29):
Yes yeah, I was just thinking like, if we get to like
200 or or 10 years, um, weshould at least do redo the
first episode, because we were.
We were babies how much I seetrick-or-treat pop up somewhere
in pop culture, I'm like I don'tunderstand.
What did I miss from that movie?

Captain (21:50):
yeah, I, I don't remember it being anything crazy
.
Like I feel like donnie darko,like it almost has the same hype
as that movie and at leastdonnie darko, like I've looked
into and I'm like all right,people are like kind of crazy,
but at least I can understand alittle bit.
But like trick-or-treat, I waslike I remember this being a
very normal what like whatevermovie I don't, I don't know

(22:12):
maybe for our first episode wejust like we couldn't just say,
oh yeah, it was really good.
Maybe we just like tore it apartbecause we felt like we needed
I just don't think we did a lotof like now, now that I'm like a
professional, Like I was.
Just you know, it's like yourfirst day on the job, it's like
you're not going to know whatyou're doing.
Yeah, that's what I feel like,that's all.

Wilson (22:34):
Okay, well, point being, we'll give it another watch.

Captain (22:37):
Give it a guy.

Wilson (22:39):
Give it a guy, all right .
Then we have Ophelia Lovabondas Emma Roberts.
Oh, okay, for a second.
I thought those were flipped,so she was in Thor yeah she
plays some character in Thor,multiple Thor movies.

Captain (22:58):
I think Karina is somebody that lives in Asgard.

Wilson (23:03):
Probably.
That sounds very.

Captain (23:06):
Asgard Probably that sounds very Asgard-y.
Yeah, she's a Marvel character.

Wilson (23:12):
I do see a Karina in.
Oh, interesting Is this thesame character.
This person is not in themovies that you have listed so I
feel like I'm looking at adifferent karina really wait, no

(23:32):
, I had my years wrong.
Hold on a second.
What am I not understandinghere?
Oh, nope, that's her.
Okay, she's not a nas guardianoh, who is she?
She's a purple girl thatexplodes.

Captain (23:46):
Of course.

Wilson (23:47):
I'm pretty sure she dies .

Captain (23:51):
Well, I didn't realize.
I made these notes a long timeago.
I didn't realize the sheriff, Irecognize him.

Wilson (23:59):
The sheriff.

Captain (24:00):
Sorry, the last character on your list.
Oh, oh, oh.

Wilson (24:04):
Sorry, I moved Michael McElhatton as Sheriff Sheldon
Burke Roose Bolton in Game ofThrones.

Captain (24:16):
Oh I didn't see his face.
Ramsey's dad, You'll recognizehim.
Yeah, so, like you said, wehave four main characters.
We have the what do you callthat Mortician?
And his son.
Is that not a mortician?

Wilson (24:33):
No, I fucking.

Captain (24:38):
Why isn't it in here, Like it doesn't have their job
titles?

Wilson (24:42):
What is that name?

Captain (24:45):
Forensic pathologist.

Wilson (24:51):
Yes, yes, is that it?
Yeah, I don't exactly know thedifference between forensic and
just a regular pathologist, butyes, okay.

Captain (24:56):
Well, anyway, it's brand cox doing that and his son
, which I guess is going to getinto the family business.
Um, the son has a girlfriend.
Is is ophelia that ophelia isnot the girlfriend.
I feel like it's the body, or?

Wilson (25:10):
oh, is she the body I actually don't know.

Captain (25:14):
Isn't that a hoot?

Wilson (25:16):
who the hell?
Oh, wait well I guess, I guess.
Um no, the girl has a name.
And well, jane doe means shedoes not have a name, and we
know ophelia's name is emmaroberts, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, so the girlfriend of thekid of austin.

Captain (25:35):
And then, yes, there's a sheriff.
Um, so those are our four maincharacters.
Yes, I think that there was areal actress or a person, a real
person, that played the corpse,but I think that there was a
real actress or a person, a realperson, that played the corpse.

Wilson (25:51):
but I think that makes sense, cause, like I don't yeah,
I um, I don't remember itlooking fake or like you know,
overly cheesy.

Captain (25:59):
It doesn't.
It looks pretty real, butanyway, you can continue.
Okay, so um sorry, I alreadyfound the.

Wilson (26:09):
It's a model who plays the corpse owen kelly owen kelly
owen oh, okay she's irish allright.
So, speaking of this model, sospeaking of this model, there is
the corpse of an unidentifiedyoung woman, and they find it at

(26:31):
the scene of a homicide, amultiple homicide.

Captain (26:34):
Mm-hmm, there's really gruesome, really gruesome, like
it's very bloody there.

Wilson (26:40):
And so.

Captain (26:42):
But yes, they find a woman buried in the basement and
she's inexplicably dead, butit's like there's no obvious
sign.
She's like buried in like twofeet of dirt in the basement.
So they take the body she endsup and this is the word I think
we were really looking for tothe coroner Coroner, I don't

(27:06):
think we were wrong with apathologist, but yeah, but a
forensic pathologist like worksin criminal justice and like
that brian cox says multipletimes, like we are purely here
just to find cause of death andI think a coroner can be like
more of a family business versuslike forensic pathologist I, I

(27:29):
don't, I just I mean this feelslike a probably more accurate
hops conversation, but yeah, thehops.
Um, I can I just say when briancox came on on the screen I
barely recognized him because helike wasn't so like grouchy and
yelly that I like didn'trecognize it's actually like a
sweet dad yeah for the most part, and I was like, oh, this is so

(27:52):
weird um.
Can I just say I'm on olwynkelly's um instagram and she
really is that body like she'slike pale and deathly looking
yeah well, she just has the sameface and the same gap teeth and
everything.
I'm like that's like pale anddeathly looking.
Yeah well, she just has thesame face and the same gap teeth
and everything.

Wilson (28:09):
I'm like that's really her I don't honestly remember
what jane doe looks like and she, like, has a life with, like a
kid and a dog well, good for her.
I wonder if her kid knows thatshe played a pedest, pedest,
whatever you know, all right.
So to pade, pade, pade,whatever you know, all right.
So, anyway, this coroner ismentoring his son, austin, and

(28:34):
basically the movie starts fromhere with, like, austin is
postponing his date with hisgirlfriend so that he can help
his dad with this newunidentified body that came in.

Captain (28:45):
Yeah, that rolled in.
Yeah, his girlfriend doesbriefly come down there and I
hate how she's acting becauseshe's like, oh, I want to see
your job and I want to see adead body, and I'm like, girl,
what um?
And she even like pull, likeshe even pulls one out of the um
chiller and she's like about totouch one.

(29:07):
She's about to uncover theblanket of one of them with her
bare hands.
I'm like you nasty hoe, um, butshe doesn't, because brian cox
like plays a trick on her herings the toe bell of one of the
corpses.
So they talk about that.
How, in the olden days, it washard to tell if someone was

(29:27):
comatose or dead, so they usedto put a bell on their toes,
which I'm pretty sure that isreal, like that was something
that happened.
Um, there's like a whole um.
I haven't been there, butthere's like a whole cemetery
that like does tours and I thinknew orleans.
That talks about that like theyhave.
They still have corpses withbells, um, but anyway, yeah.

(29:49):
So he explains that and shegoes well, why would you still
have these on?
And he just says that he's a,he's a um, what does he call
himself?
He says, like he reallyappreciates, like the old ways
he's an old timey fellow.
Yeah, he respects the old waythat coroners used to do things.

Wilson (30:12):
So he doesn't mind if people are actually buried alive
.
He wants to go back to thosetimes.

Captain (30:20):
I think he's just saying that.
I think she was saying youdon't need the toe bells anymore
and he said it's just you knowold coroner practice to put the
toe bells anymore.
And he said it's just you knowold corner practice with the toe
bells on, so he still does.

Wilson (30:31):
Well, she sounds super annoying she does, she was.

Captain (30:35):
But she was very chill about austin blowing her off.
I mean, at first she wasn't, um, but then she kind of was like
she laughed and I was like, okay, I wouldn't be.
But fine, um, but you shouldback up.
The often is really, uh,supporting his father because

(30:55):
their his mom died two years ago.
So he feels like he has tosupport his dad or be close to
him because he doesn't reallyhave anything else left, um, so
that's why he's like choosing tospend time with his dad so they
start to then take a look atthe body and start figuring out

(31:16):
the um, like how she died andthey noticed some weird
inconsistencies yeah, they, they.
The sheriff tells them you needto do this tonight, like right
now, even though it's I don'tknow 10 pm or something.
But he was like it was a bigcrime scene, there's four dead
bodies, and like I need to havesomething to tell people, to
tell the press, by tomorrowmorning.

(31:37):
So but yes, there's like mostoutward signs, like there's not
a lot going on there, likethere's no obvious signs that
she's why she would be dead.

Wilson (31:49):
Right, but they, like he , does take a look at her eyes.
So they said the veins likethere's a lot of blood, I guess
like bloody veins in her eyes,which would indicate that she
had died more recently.
However, her eyes are reallycloudy, which means she would
have been dead for several days.
So, some things don't reallyline up there.

Captain (32:15):
Yeah, they find out that she like.
So her wrists and her anklesare fractured but there's no
bruising, which doesn't make anysense.
She's got a bunch of peatunderneath her nails and in her
hair and stuff which is likespecial dirt.
It's not dirt that would befound here, it's dirt that we
found up north, they say.
And then his, her tongue issevered off like cut um, and

(32:38):
she's got a tooth missing.
So with all those pieces, briancox's first thought is human
trafficking.
But um, that doesn'tnecessarily pan out.
There are, there, are, there isvaginal trauma, he said too, um
, but her lungs are also black.

Wilson (32:57):
Yeah, as they do.

Captain (32:58):
The internal investigation.
Things get weird, yeah with thelungs yeah.

Wilson (33:06):
so they say like the lungs are black, as though she
had third-degree burns.
A lot of her organs showseveral scabbing from stabs, and
then in her stomach they foundthis paralyzing agent that's
native to New England.

Captain (33:24):
Yeah, gemstone weed is actually a real thing.
They bring it up in the movieand it actually a real thing,
like they they bring up in themovie and it and it is.
It is a real thing that Ilooked up like it does cause,
like it is toxic and it doeslike cause hallucinogen halluc
how hallucinations, jesus, Icouldn't map that word.
Um, and it is like, yeah,apparently it does grow all

(33:47):
throughout north america andit's like not a controlled
substance or anything, but likeit could potentially kill you,
which is kind of crazy huh yeahI mean, I'm assuming I've seen
this before.

Wilson (33:58):
I don't I don't know I recognize it right away, but I
like the scene so I like in thisscene.

Captain (34:02):
so, yeah, they cut her open and she's really bloody,
like you said, but all thethings inside don't make any
sense and I like this scene.
So I like in this scene.
So yeah, they cut her open andshe's really bloody, like you
said, but all the things insidedon't make any sense.
And I like this scene thatBrian Cox is saying, where the
lungs being so black, he wouldbe like I would expect to see
this in a house where she likeburned to death, but like her
skin doesn't have any burns onit.

(34:22):
And he said it would be likefinding a bullet in a brain but
there's no gunshot wound.
and I was like, oh, it's goodanalogy yeah, um, and then when
he said that I was, I couldn'tfind the episode that I was
thinking of and I know you'renot a law and order fan, but I
remember watching this episodeof suu one time when there was

(34:44):
like a kid that had a bulletwound that came up in something.
Uh, came up for some reason.
Anyway, they like couldn'tfigure out why he had a bullet
in him, or I think he had abullet in him, but there was no
bullet wound, something likethat.
Anyway, it came came to findout that he was shot in the womb
and that's why he had a bullet,but like he didn't really have

(35:06):
a bullet wound.
And I was like oh.
I remember thinking about thatepisode because I was like, well
, that was kind of crazy, but Icouldn't find the episode when I
Googled it.

Wilson (35:14):
Oh, that does sound kind of cool, though, but that
sounds like an episode of one ofthose types of shows.

Captain (35:21):
It definitely does.
But anyway, then you get the,you get the in this movie, you
get the radio with the stormscoming right.
So they have these like stormscoming on the spooky radio and
you hear like women's screams inand out on the radio and then
they play like the creepy songsand then you get the the

(35:45):
unfortunate the cat death, whichI remember it in the movie but
rewatching it I was like thiswas a lot worse than I remember.

Wilson (35:56):
So I don't know.
If you remember, I guess Iblocked it out, I don't remember
.

Captain (36:00):
The cat is found mortally wounded in the vent,
but it's still alive, so it'ssuffering.
It's really sad.
And then brian cox like snapshis neck to like end the
suffering.
But brian cox says, like thisis the last thing I had of my
wife, like I was keeping thiscat because it was hers um yeah,

(36:22):
and they have like a five ormaybe not five.
They have like a two minutememorial of like saying goodbye
and burning the body.
I honestly skipped through it alittle because I was like I
can't watch this right now.
Yeah.

Wilson (36:34):
I, I, yeah, I don't, I really don't remember it.
Yeah.

Captain (36:38):
But I would have probably wanted to skip it.
Yeah, it's probably good youblocked it out.

Wilson (36:42):
So I think also they start like seeing people
standing in the like thehallways of the morgue, yeah,
but I think he kind of thinkshe's just seeing things, but
anyway.

Captain (36:56):
So they're like they're continuing the autopsy and he
finds the woman's missing toothwrapped in a piece of cloth in
her stomach and on the cloth areRoman numerals and like a weird
diagram yeah, and that's whenaustin says like what if this is
like a weird human sacrificething?

(37:17):
Um, because, like what elsewould this be?
Um, but brian cox says, likeyou know, basically, if this is
how you're killing somebody,like the only reason you're
doing it this way is to likemake it hurt, like this is not,
this was like we wanted her tosuffer.

Wilson (37:38):
Basically, um, so yes, and then they finally cut her
open and they I don't know ifyou got to that part where they
see the tattoos on the inside-um, oh no, I hadn't gotten to
that part yet, so like it'ssimilar to like the cloth that
they saw on her, there's likesymbols on the inside of her

(37:59):
skin yeah, she's like tattooedup, but on the inside and again,
yeah, it has like this weirdnumeric roman numerals
everywhere.

Captain (38:07):
And at this point I think brian so austin is already
freaked out, like he's alreadylike we should not be here, we
should leave um, brian cox iskind of ignoring him, um, but at
this point I think heunderstands, like, okay, I don't
understand what the fuck isgoing on, um, and at this point,
freezer door more like thechiller doors creak open um, and

(38:33):
the power flickers and thenlike literally all the glass in
the whole building like shatters, like all the lights above them
shatter and the power goes out.

Wilson (38:43):
And brian cox, finally, is like okay, let's get the fuck
out of here yes, um, but theydo find out that, like, while
they're trying to leave, theelevator is not working, of
course, um, and then a tree isblocked during the exit don't
forget, they get actually likechased into they.

Captain (38:59):
They barricade themselves in the office because
, um, there's like somethingchasing them and they don't
really know.
It looks like a corpse that'sfollowing them and chasing them.
But when they get inside theoffice, they barricade
themselves in and something isramshackling the door.

(39:19):
Alistair actually looksunderneath the door and sees a
morgue foot.
A morgue foot, a dead body witha bell on it.
It was a pretty good scene.

Wilson (39:34):
Wait, so he does what you set the bells on his foot,
yeah he looks underneath thedoor to see what's there.
Oh, oh.

Captain (39:42):
And it's a dead foot with a bell on it, yeah, and
they're freaked out.
Oh, the reason why they eventry to run to the office is to
use the landline, because theydon't have any cell service.
But the landline doesn't workwell.

Wilson (39:54):
Of course, and this is, I think, around where they're
also figuring out they cannotget out.
Yeah, yeah, they go to theelevator and they can't really
get out yeah, so eventually theyreturn to the autopsy room
because they want to look at thecorpse again yeah, I think
basically um oh, does this doesit not talk about?

Captain (40:19):
Does it talk about the girlfriend coming back, or is
that not here yet?

Wilson (40:24):
I don't see it here yet.

Captain (40:26):
Oh, okay.

Wilson (40:28):
Oh wait, at the end of this paragraph.
Oh, okay, so they go back tothe?

Captain (40:32):
Yeah, so I just wanted to mention that when they the
reason why they go back to thecorpse.
I just wanted to mention thatwhen they the reason why they go
back to the corpse is because Ithink Austin says something
along the lines of, like we gotto figure out what is happening
here, because if we can figureout what happened, then maybe we
can stop this weird superficial, supernatural thing from

(40:56):
happening.

Wilson (40:57):
Yeah, so when they get back into the autopsy room, the
door does lock itself and hehacks at the door with an
emergency ax.

Captain (41:09):
Yeah, it's very shining .
Yes, it's shining.

Wilson (41:13):
So when they look through the opening that he just
made in the door, they see oneof the missing corpses, like in
the hallway.
Um, so also during this timethey can't get to the cremation
furnace oh, that's right, theywere gonna burn the body.
That's how they were gonna likesettle it, yeah yeah, so they do

(41:34):
set the corpse on fire um itwithin the autopsy room, um, you
know.
The fire then spreads and tommyends up putting it out with a
fire extinguisher.
But when he does that, theyfind out that the body is not
burned at all.
It's like untouched by the fireunburned.

Captain (41:52):
I actually wanted to look and how, how they did that
special effect, because it was.
I mean, it really looks likeshe's burning and then like,
like it looks like there's fireon her, but like, as it's
essentially like her body wouldbe like one of those like, um,
fancy, like stone fire pits,like the like the long vertical
ones that they have in, likenice hotels.

Wilson (42:09):
Yeah.

Captain (42:10):
Like but like she's just yeah, she's just unburned
on her, above her, and I waslike, how did they do that?

Wilson (42:17):
models just models all right, so at this point they get
out of there.
Well, these that room, um, andthe elevator does reactivate and
they try again to escape, butthe doors, the elevator, won't

(42:37):
close, um, so at this pointtommy's freaked out.
He's using the axe that he'dgotten earlier against what he
believes is one of the animatedcourses yep but when they exit
the elevator they find out heactually killed his girlfriend,
who has returned to meet him.
Yeah, austin's girlfriend.

Captain (42:54):
Yeah yeah, the brian cox is the one that axes her,
but it's, it's the son'sgirlfriend.
Yeah, yeah, the brian cox isthe one that axes her, but it's,
it's the son's girlfriend.
Yeah, and to be fair to both ofthem, like it, they saw the
corpse like it was the guy withthe gunshot wound to his face
where, like, his whole face wasblown off, like that's that.
They saw it in the hallway.
So you know, it's not like youknow they didn't try to kill her

(43:16):
yeah, yeah, it's not like theywere, like you know, tired of
her.

Wilson (43:22):
I mean maybe he was just tired of her, like it's like I
didn't like that joke earlierwith the bodies and brian cox
does give a little story aboutthe mom.

Captain (43:31):
Like we get the backstory of the mom being that,
finding out that she wassuicidal, and he kind of says
something about how, like I knowI should have been more tuned
in and seeing the signs that shewas dealing with stuff on her
own and like that's my faultthat she.
I don't really agree with him,but he was like that's my fault
that she's dead and this is myfault too, and like you're the

(43:54):
one paying the price for all ofmy mistakes.
So I think the first time theygo to the corpse they were just
going to burn the body becausethat way they were like you know
, we'll settle it.
But the second time, this iswhen Austin says maybe if we can
find out answers to her deathand we can figure out, you know
what's going on, then we cansurvive tonight.

(44:15):
But he said if we stay heretrapped in the elevator, we're
not going to survive tonight.
But he said if we stay heretrapped in the elevator, we're
not gonna survive.
And I was like, okay, I agreewith that.
I mean he can't just sit thereall night yeah.

Wilson (44:25):
So at this point they reason that it it has to be jane
doe preventing them fromdiscovering like somehow she's
actively preventing them fromdiscovering the cause of death.

Captain (44:37):
Yeah.

Wilson (44:37):
So they go back to the examination room.
They do find out that her brain, her neurons are active,
meaning that she is biologicallyalive.

Captain (44:49):
Yeah.

Wilson (44:52):
So, upon looking at her a little more, at least the
cloth that was in her stomach,um, it refers to markings, or
the markings, and it referred toleviticus 2027, um, which
condemns witches.
Uh, and the year is 1960, sorry, 1693, uh, which was the date
of the salem um witch trialsyeah, it says, um, I did look up

(45:18):
.

Captain (45:23):
Yeah, it says um, I did look up leviticus 2027 the one
that they use in the movie is alittle, the wording's a little
off, but in the real one, likeit says, it mandates the death
of penalty to anyone male orfemale who acts as a medium or
spirit spiritualist, statingthey should be stoned.
So basically, the fact that shehas, like, um, this peat
underneath her nails that wouldbe up in new england.

(45:44):
The fact that she, um her bodyhas markings on it like she
would be wearing a 17th centurycorset, um, and that she was
tortured and she's like a youngwoman they were like, they're
like, oh, she's a witch yeah, um, and they say I guess how does
this come up?

Wilson (46:02):
but they say by burning the witch.
That means they turned aninnocent, or like they
accidentally turned an innocentwoman to a witch brian cox.

Captain (46:11):
So when, when austin brings up the witches, brian cox
is, like, vehemently, likethere were no witches, like
these were young children, younggirls who were playing in the
woods and, like you know, thehysteria got to the, to Salem
and, like you know, there's nosuch thing.
Like he's, he's very, you know,adamant about that.

(46:33):
And then he basically has thisthought process of like, ok,
well, what if the ritual tokilling a witch actually like
created the very thing they weretrying to destroy, because,
like, she's been, you know,rigorously tortured and suffered
a lot through this process,because, you know, they find all
these terrible things that havehappened to her and all these

(46:54):
scars and all these wounds, butthey were saying that, like now
she's trying to avenge all theseterrible things that happened
to her, so that basically hasmade her the evil thing that
they were trying to kill and solike now she's, now she's evil
and like causing murderingpeople and causing chaos,
basically, yeah, so that's howit comes up I'm curious.

Wilson (47:17):
Supposing that's true, I want to know the story behind
the massacre scene that she wasat.

Captain (47:24):
In the very beginning.

Wilson (47:25):
Yeah.

Captain (47:27):
I mean, you don't get to see a lot.
I think it was a husband andwife and a child that lived
there and they were all like wejust know.
They were all brutally murderedin the house.
Oh, there is one thing a copsays they say nothing was stolen
, it doesn't look like aburglary and actually there's
like no markings on the outsideof the house, like it doesn't

(47:48):
look like someone broke in.
She said if anything, there arescratches on the inside of the
house that look like they weretrying to get out.

Wilson (47:55):
You know what my guess is going to be?
That this family was in thebasement or whatever, dug up
bones or remains and then youknow she witch, killed them, but
similar to what is happening toBrian Cox's character, like
their dying is giving her energy, so like it turned her like

(48:16):
bones to flesh.
I don't know.
I'm just like why is she halfburied in the dirt like that?
Yeah?

Captain (48:23):
she was like yeah, she was like half uncovered.
Um, I guess we should say that,like throughout this,
throughout these scenes, briancox is getting like beaten up by
wispies like we don't reallyknow what's like, but he has
like burns on the inside of himthat you can like see from the
outside and he's got likeinjuries, um, that are happening

(48:44):
to him.
As all of this is, as thescenes go on of them being like
barricading in the office andmoving around the the coroner's
building yeah, so um she's doingher like witch shit and that
brian cox basically says she,we're just another torture to

(49:04):
her tonight.
Because if she can feel, if she,if her brain's alive and she
can feel us like cutting heropen and you know, ripping up,
you know, whatever everythingthey've done to her as a corner,
then like we're just anothertorture in her path.
So, um, he basically likerealizes that you know they're,

(49:26):
they're on the list yeah, butI'm just like can she not ever
get up and walk?

Wilson (49:32):
like does she just exist as a corpse and that's what she
likes?

Captain (49:36):
as far as we've seen, that's all she does is exist as
a corpse.
But my question really is likewhen does the?
How much avenging is good?

Wilson (49:48):
maybe she was like straight up chilling before she
ended up at, uh, the coroner'soffice and then she just got
pissed that she's being torturedI mean something happened at
the house that she got murdered,or that that the movie starts
at yeah, maybe she's chilling onthe ground.
She's like I live here now andthey dug her up and she's like

(50:09):
fuck you but, um, all right.
so basically, at this point,tommy the dad sacrifices himself
to spare Austin, and this iswhere we see like he starts
getting wounds, more wounds thatmimic Jane Doe's.

Captain (50:27):
Yeah, he gets all the broken, all the fractures and
then you see her ankles andwrists like unfracture and you
see that the Y cut that theymake in her like heals itself.
But this is really brutal forAustin, like he's watching his
dad die miserably.
His mom died by suicide a yearago.
His girlfriend died earlierthis night.

(50:48):
His pet cat slashed his mom'scat.
I'm like austin's losingeverything like that would be
awful yeah.

Wilson (50:57):
So at this point, uh, tommy reaches for a knife to cut
his own tongue and complete theritual, but instead austin
stabs his father in the chest toend his misery I didn't know
that that's what he was tryingto do, like cut his tongue off.
That it's not clear in themovie yeah, I think at least how
it describes it is that he waslike sacrificing himself, so

(51:21):
he's like helping them.

Captain (51:22):
Oh, he has to do all Okay, all of them Okay.

Wilson (51:26):
So and then, right here, austin believes he hears the
sheriff outside, but as he getscloser he realizes the voice is
just another hallucination.
But, as he gets closer herealizes the voice is just
another hallucination.
And so just then he seesTommy's corpse, or a vision of

(51:46):
it, and it freaks Austin out.
So he trips over the railingand falls to his death.

Captain (51:50):
Yeah, brian Cox's body is used as a jump scare and then
Austin tumbles over the railingand then he lands on something
sharp.
And yeah, he, like Austin,tumbles over the railing and
then he lands on something sharpand yeah, he also dies, which,
honestly, I'm like this would bea hard trauma night for Austin
to survive.
So, maybe this is better.
Yeah, yeah, maybe it is Maybethis is better.

Wilson (52:18):
So the police arrive the next morning and confused
because obviously they just raninto another inexplicable crime
scene.
The corpse again shows no signof trauma and it's taken to
Virginia's CommonwealthUniversity.

Captain (52:28):
The sheriff makes a comment that he says, get this
corpse out of my county, whichit's not really clear that she's
the one doing this, but I don'tknow.

Wilson (52:42):
For some reason he feels weird about it.
So, yes, um, and then so, whilethe body's in transit, the
radio spontaneously turns on andyou see the torch, the corpse's
toe twitch.
But like I'm just curious, like, at what point is she trying to
kill people so that she getsher health back?
Like we saw color go in hereyes.

Captain (53:00):
Yeah, but in the back of the van her eyes are grayed
out again, so I'm confused.

Wilson (53:07):
Maybe because.

Captain (53:08):
Brian Cox didn't complete the ritual.
Maybe I don't know, but it'sjust not clear.
But when I'm watching the movieit's annoying, but it's not
annoying enough to feel badabout it Because the movie it's
like annoying, but it's not likeannoying enough to be feel like
bad about it because themovie's pretty good yeah um, but
yeah, there's just someclerical things that like I

(53:29):
don't understand I think I lovethe concept of this movie so
much and I want more.

Wilson (53:36):
Like I, I have all these questions about the backstory
or how the witch works, and Iwant them answered, so I'm just
angry from that perspective.

Captain (53:46):
Yeah, I understand that , but I think they might have
left it.
I mean, they've never doneanother one, but I feel like
they kind of left it that waywith the thought that maybe they
could do a second one.

Wilson (53:58):
I hope they do.

Captain (54:00):
Which I would watch.

Wilson (54:03):
I wouldn't be surprised if they like have or like
there's just like a shitty.

Captain (54:09):
A loose yeah Something.

Wilson (54:12):
Another Lucy goose.

Captain (54:17):
So how we feel, or what you got, or what I got?

Wilson (54:21):
um well, I can give you some, some hot goose and some
num nums I'll take them.
Uh, say less, say less uh allright, so 86 um audience, or is?

Captain (54:37):
that critic?
No, that's critic.
Yeah, okay, yeah that's prettygood.

Wilson (54:40):
86 critic 77 audience.
Um had a budget about 4 million.
Only made 6 million though, solike it didn't do that well yeah
, money-wise it didn't, but Ithat might be like.

Captain (54:58):
I don't think I've ever seen this movie advertised.
I just found it on streamingone day.

Wilson (55:03):
Yeah, it's just word of mouth.

Captain (55:05):
Yeah, but the guy that did it, the Trollhunters movie
that he did, I think that moviedid super, super well.

Wilson (55:15):
So I don't think he was in this movie necessarily for
the money I you know I don't seeany mention of even discussing
a sequel um.
Stephen king has expressed thathe likes it yeah uh, but yeah,
that's okay.

(55:37):
Yeah, it's all for the num-nums, so we'll bop into some hot
goss.
I think this is kind of alongwith what you're saying, sort of
.
But with the director comingoff the success of Trollhunter,
he wanted to prove something,but specifically that he could

(55:59):
do more than found footage stylefilms I appreciate that, yes I
mean, found footage has theirplay, like, has its place, but I
think to a degree we've hadenough.
We've had enough there's so manyum also, uh, premiered at the
toronto international filmfestival.

(56:20):
Um, when they were assessingdamage during a um alone action
in that main autopsy lab and youhad mentioned this while we
were talking about it um, atleast part of it.
But the camera pans from theshower stall immediately to a
close-up of a whole axe throughthe door, focusing on the

(56:40):
character's eye.
You know looking through it.
So this is like a callback toPsycho and the Shining, and you
had mentioned the Shining one.

Captain (56:54):
I mean when you're watching it.
It really does give that likeAustin's hammering that door
with that axe.

Wilson (56:59):
Yup, and then at the end of the special thanks section
in the credits, the last entryis a single word Troll.

Captain (57:11):
Yeah, he's really into the troll thing, but I actually
did check and that is real, likeI saw it.
But I actually did check andthat is real, like I saw it.
I'm going to send you a pictureof one of the special effects
or behind the scene picturesthey took of this movie, cause I
guess they did a lot ofprosthetic pieces for the scenes
in which they knew that theywould be destroyed, but they did

(57:33):
use that model as the mainperson for this.
So I'm guessing that's how theykind of did the fire.

Wilson (57:44):
Some more trivia I thought was interesting.
The director said that thatmodel Olwen had the most
difficult role in the film andhe credited her with making
everyone else comfortable on set.

Captain (57:58):
Oh, because she just had to lay there for hours.

Wilson (58:01):
I guess.
So yeah, and also part of thereason why she was selected for
that part was her knowledge ofyoga, because they needed her to
be able to control her body andbreathing really well.

Captain (58:13):
Wow Interessante.

Wilson (58:16):
Mm-hmm.

Captain (58:19):
Yeah, this movie has been deemed as like a really
good special effects movie.
I'm seeing online Like peoplereally really give it to them
for how well they did this movieand I agree Like it's.
I mean, nothing looks cheesy,Nothing looks like 80s style.

Wilson (58:43):
They did a really good job.
There's a I was reading somemore about um the model and they
said, basically she spent eighthours a day for five weeks
lying naked on that autopsytable and she had like she had
asked her, she said, um, she hadspent a lot of time thinking

(59:03):
how am I going to be nude andstill in what will probably be a
room full of men, um, so shehad to spend a lot of time like
kind of thinking how she woulddo that.
But they do say her time as amodel like the background
experience with that has helpedher like cope with it at the
time dude.

Captain (59:20):
There's like a scene where brian cox is like
examining the vaginal trauma.

Wilson (59:27):
Like that would be so awkward I feel like they would
have had to put like aprosthetic or something yeah
yeah, it's like.

Captain (59:37):
I mean he's not like.
I mean it's not like knees up,like he's not like in there like
a gynecologist, but he'sdefinitely like puts a
flashlight in there and likefingers.
I don't know.
It would be so weird, he's soweird, so I understand why she
would have the hardest job Ithink this one piece is pretty
cool.

Wilson (59:58):
So he, this movie exists because of the Conjuring,
because the director saw ashowing of it and was like I
need a good horror script.
And yeah, he did this movie.

Captain (01:00:12):
I did see that I forgot I read that.
Yeah, what would you?
I don't know how do you feel Irated this on letterbox.

Wilson (01:00:21):
I have not rated it yet.
Um, I'm gonna give it like uh70 really I gave it, I gave an
80 okay, you made me think I waslike I, I went too high.

Captain (01:00:38):
Oh no, the movie is really entertaining.
When you're watching it, likeyou get sucked in, and I would
recommend it is a really goodmovie.
There's a cat death, which isunfortunate.

Wilson (01:00:50):
Yeah, but otherwise.

Captain (01:00:54):
I mean you could fast forward 90 seconds and miss most
of it, and it's not not gonnaaffect the watch of the movie.
Yeah, just like a small contentwarning yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
and Brian Cox is always a goodactor.
It's always nice to see him inthings that is true, yeah, so
would recommend.

Wilson (01:01:16):
Do you want to know what we're doing next week?

Captain (01:01:19):
oh my god, what about your rag?

Wilson (01:01:21):
oh, my gosh, I forgot about rags.
Um, my god.
Well, since I watched the moviea year ago, I don't know um
what, what's?

Captain (01:01:30):
what's like the thing you remember from the movie from
a year ago, because that wouldbe like the thing that sticks
out the most um, I do rememberuh a cadaver um wow I, so I
completely forgot the endingtill we got there.

Wilson (01:01:45):
Uh, so that kind of gagged me a little bit, like I
forgot that everyone died andthere was like that jump scare
at the end there is a, there isa feeling that austin will get
away at the end and and when hedies.

Captain (01:01:57):
It is pretty shocking.

Wilson (01:01:59):
I'll go with that.

Captain (01:02:01):
Okay.
What's yours, I think for methere's, so I've picked a rag.
And then, as we went on, I waslike actually I'm not sure
Because I like another scene,but a quick, just a quick thing.
When they're in the office andthey're freaked out and they
like someone's you know shakingdown, they're trying to shake
down the door and get in thereand like basically there's a

(01:02:21):
moment of silence in the roomwhere they're like, you know, is
the thing still out there, likeit's?
It's like really quiet.
You could hear a pin drop inthere.
Like brian cox's character andhis son are like silent, um, and
then all of a sudden you hearlike the bell ringing and it's
like really heightened and thatwas a good scene.
But honestly, I think the scenethat I like the best is when, at

(01:02:43):
the towards the end, when thesheriff comes back in and he's
like hey, I'm here, you know, Igot your phone call, I'm trying
to get you guys out of here, I'mtrying to free this door that's
been blocked by a tree orsomething to get you out.
And he's like try now.
And he's saying this to austinon the other side of the door
and austin's on the inside andhe's trying to open the door and
he's like it's still stuck andburke's like open it up, open up

(01:03:05):
, open up.
And.
And he's saying I can't.
But then burke like goes, openup your heart and let the sun
shine.
And it's like he gets thissing-songy, creepy voice going
and it's like austin coming tothe realization that this is
also a hallucination.
Hallucination was like reallycreepy, um.

(01:03:27):
So I think that actually wouldbe my raise the glass.
I didn't pick up on how goodthat scene was the first time I
watched this movie, but um, it's, it is really good in this.
It's it's like the you know thered herring, like we're getting
free, but it's like nope,you're just stuck in it so hard
okay, yep, yep um, so I thinkthat would be my, my rag, my

(01:03:48):
race class.
Obviously the poor one out isthe cat is stanley yeah, yeah,
that's um.
I think that's a winner by along shot yeah, by a shot I try
to cut these movies out, butthis one we wanted on the list
so I left it.

Wilson (01:04:02):
The sacrifices we make.

Captain (01:04:07):
Oh, I do have.
I did actually write on herewhat we're doing next time,
because we always forget andthen or forget to put it on.
So I was trying to be good.

Wilson (01:04:17):
So it looks like we're doing the Ruins from 2008 yep I
I don't know if I've seen.
I'm trying to think because Ithink I might be getting
confused with, like the descentand such um, so you're saying
this is carnivorous vines at anarchaeological site in mexico?

Captain (01:04:38):
yeah, does this movie poster look familiar at all?

Wilson (01:04:40):
I know I've seen that movie poster a bunch.
I I guess I didn't see itbecause I do not remember
carnivorous vines, that's true.

Captain (01:05:06):
Don't quote me on that, okay.

Wilson (01:05:08):
Well, I will.
You have been recorded andyou're on the record.

Captain (01:05:13):
Okay, I'll get ready for my subpoena.

Wilson (01:05:15):
Perfect yeah, okay Well, I'm excited to watch that.
I'm actually it my subpoenaPerfect yeah, okay Well, I'm
excited to watch that.

Captain (01:05:21):
I'm actually.
It's a little different.
It's a different type.
The Descent is probably theclosest movie we've done to that
right.

Wilson (01:05:29):
Did we do the Descent?

Captain (01:05:30):
What's the one we did where that lady is in an
archaeological site.

Wilson (01:05:35):
Was it as Above, so Below.

Captain (01:05:37):
Oh, so Below, that's what it was.
Yeah, site, as was that asabove, so below.
Oh, so below, that's what itwas.
Yeah, where she like, doesthese like crazy?
She's like, but you see thesymbol, this means this, and
you're like girl, are you oncrack?
But otherwise that's a goodmovie yeah, it's just like she
gets real like where are youcoming up with these things?
Yeah, it's like she gets likeeggs on nips and you're like
what's happening?

Wilson (01:05:54):
you know what I mean?

Captain (01:05:55):
yeah, um, anyway.
So do you you have any advicefor me based on what we've
watched?
I know it's very.
Yeah, I purposely gave you thismovie because I was like I
don't know what advice you'regoing to pull from an autopsy.

Wilson (01:06:10):
So you only pick your movie based on the advice that
you'll give.

Captain (01:06:13):
No, but like sometimes, if the hot goss is really good,
but good.
But both these movies had asimilar amount of hot goss, so
then I just moved down the listof what else would I base it on.

Wilson (01:06:28):
Yeah, I'm trying to think, because this is one of
those movies where, technically,the main characters did nothing
wrong, they just were superunlucky.

Captain (01:06:39):
Yeah, the entire movie is an autopsy.
There is almost no scene thattakes place outside of this
building.

Wilson (01:06:51):
And they're not really doing stupid things, because
they're just reacting to whatthey see.

Captain (01:06:56):
Well, there's one thing that you could say but it's not
great, but it is advice.

Wilson (01:07:05):
What.

Captain (01:07:07):
Well, the only other character we see is the
girlfriend, and if Austin didn'tlike blow her off, he wouldn't
be stuck in this situation.

Wilson (01:07:14):
You, know what I mean.
That is true.
There is a lesson in this movieDon't blow off your significant
other yeah, there we go.

Captain (01:07:20):
Don't blow off your significant other, but blow them
.
No, just kidding.