The Commuter

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This week, Captain and Wilson expand their horizons a bit and discuss a thriller - "The Commuter," which is a 2018 film directed by Jaume Collet-Serra. It stars Liam Neeson, Vera Farmiga, Patrick Wilson, Jonathan Banks, Sam Neill, and more.

The film discussion begins around 19:00.

Episode Transcript

Captain (00:18):
you know, earlier this week I was having the most in
brain.
What?
The most insane brain fog of myentire life.
Wow, yeah, it was really weird,but that's what happens when
you never get sick.
Maybe you got baby COVID, Iguess that's possible.
You know, I was thinking theother day.

(00:39):
I'm pretty sure I threw my cardaway.
But you don't throw things away, I'm sure you have yours, uh.

Wilson (00:45):
But yeah, I do.
I mean that's to me, that's animportant medical record, so I
kept it.

Captain (00:50):
I mean it's possible, I have mine, but if I had to
guess, I you know I did.
I actually found recently thatI have a um like a, scanned in
digital copy of it oh okay, wellthen it's okay okay, okay, I'm
glad, I'm glad dr wilson agreesI did throw away things this

(01:11):
week whoa like what um, so thecloset behind me is it was
basically full to like my height, because like it was just
stacks of stuff, because Ididn't just stuff yeah, I just.

Wilson (01:26):
I didn't have a place better place for it after we
moved in.
I just put it in the closet I'msorry, it's just stuff, sir
yeah.
So then I was like you knowwhat, I'm tired of this.
So I I cleaned it out and I canput stuff in there.

Captain (01:41):
Now you threw, threw stuff away.

Wilson (01:44):
Some stuff and then I put things in their proper place
or places that make sense.

Captain (01:49):
Oh, so there were places, or sorry, there were
things that should have beensomewhere else from the jump.

Wilson (01:55):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Captain (01:58):
How much did you throw away?

Wilson (02:01):
Not that much, but it is organized better now.
Can only you know growth is isa slow.
It's a slow process.
It is a slow an uphill battle.

Captain (02:14):
That's funny.
Um well, I mean, I can still beproud of you thank you um so
you had a, you had a triprecently.
I did have a trip recently.
Oh, what the heck is this?
Nobody asked for this.

Wilson (02:31):
What are you talking?

Captain (02:32):
about.
Sorry, I'm like I don't evenknow what life is right now.
I had a trip recently, verygood trip.
We went to New York City andthat was not supposed to be the
main part of the trip, but wesaw stranger things.
What's that called strangerthings?

Wilson (02:57):
yeah, I was kind of curious what the that's, the
yeah oh, the first shadow.

Captain (03:04):
Okay, dude, I like this is not even like.
I cannot hype this up enough.
I'm so sorry.
It is so visually insane tolike when you're watching it.
It doesn't even look real like.
That is.
It deserves all the hype.
The visual of the, the physicallike.

(03:24):
Watching it I was like is thisa movie like?
I don't, I like, don't even.
I can't even explain to you howgood they do with the
production of it wow like I I'venever seen anything like that
in my life.
I, I like can't even like.
It's hard to fathom.
While while I'm watching it, myjaw was like on the floor

(03:45):
because it's like how are youdoing this?

Wilson (03:47):
I'm like not, I'm like, I'm not like over hyping this
what if it was just a trick andit was just a giant movie screen
?

Captain (03:54):
I honestly would be like that makes that makes the
most sense of about.
Like what I saw uh, so goodthough.
Like I cannot recommend thatshow enough.
Like the acting was good, thethe you know story was was cool,
but like the visuals of it waslike so astounding, like you got

(04:15):
to see it like I don't know.

Wilson (04:18):
You just have to we did seriously look into how we could
change our upcoming travelplans to incorporate that.
It's not going to work out, butwe did try and we were really
close to getting tickets.

Captain (04:29):
It's so crazy Good Like I.
I don't know I can't.
I'm like so glad I saw it.
I don't know Um.

Wilson (04:39):
did Jay like it too?

Captain (04:41):
Yes, and you know it's crazy, we, as we're in the like
we're in there with like it'spacked in there, like we're
packed in and like we're aroundother people that are also like
like everyone's having reactions, like I don't know, it was a
very interactive crowd which Iusually am, like not a huge fan
of, but like I don't know,you're just watching something

(05:02):
astounding that everyone's kindof gooped and gagged.
I don't know it's crazy, but Idon't want to give anything away
.
That's why I'm not sayinganything specific, because I
need to go see it.

Wilson (05:13):
Yeah, I need to figure out how long it's there or if
it'll come back or if there'sanother way I can see it.
But I would like to.

Captain (05:19):
Yeah, I really don't want to give anything away,
because I think don't want togive anything away and I'm
because I think that would, yeah, impact the show.
Um, but it's good, uh, the, the, yeah, the guy that plays the
main character.
Again, I'm not gonna sayanything else, but like, um,
really, really good one reallyum like honed in his craft okay,

(05:48):
so they deserve to be onbroadway yes, um, like all the
awards that they've beennominated or won, I totally get
it and it's not a musical right,it is not a musical.
There is like one musical numberum, but it doesn't.
It's not a musical I'm justpicturing like a like stranger
things, like the intro no,there's one musical number that

(06:14):
like it's not whatever, but um,I mean, there's like, yeah, I
don't, I'm trying not to sayanything, I don't want to ruin
it.
You know, I didn't realize thisat the beginning, which I don't
think this will ruin it.
I think this will actually makelife simple.
But I didn't realize that whenthey were the teenagers at the

(06:37):
beginning, I didn't realize thatwas the same adults in the show
, adults in the show.
So it is.
Yeah, so it does like, it doescoincide with, like hopper, and
I can't remember that girl'sname.
Will's mom?
oh uh, joyce yeah, yeah, whenthey're like itsies in high

(07:01):
school tykes, yeah, okay um,because I didn't put that
together until like further onin the show and I was like in
the play and I was like, oh, butyou don't need to like watch
any of Stranger Things to go seethis play, because it's all a
prequel.

Wilson (07:17):
Well, I already saw all of Stranger Things.

Captain (07:19):
Well, okay, but I haven't rewatched any of it,
like I'm sure I need to rewatchit before the new season comes
out, which I know we talkedabout last time.
I have not touched it.
We're trying to watch Wednesday.
I think we only have twoepisodes left.

Wilson (07:38):
I have not started the new season yet, but I don't know
when I'm going to get to it,because I just made a list of
all the spooky TV shows over thelast several years that I would
like to re-watch during thishalloween season re-watch yeah,
like I want to watch likeseveral of mike flanagan's
netflix shows and what else Iforgot, what else I put on the

(07:59):
list.
But that's like like midnightmass I haven't seen since it
came out and I'm like it's agood year to.

Captain (08:06):
It is a good, it's a really good show.
Yeah, I wish Wednesday wasdifferent.
I'm not a huge fan.
I mean, it's fine, I wasexpecting something else.
Like, I'm going to finish it,there's only two episodes left,
but yeah, I get why it doesn'thave good like.

(08:28):
It has like okay ratings,especially compared to the first
season, and then, um, I feellike there was something else we
were watching, oh, alien earth.
But I haven't, we haven'tcaught up, we're behind, wait
how far behind, so you watched.
Like the first three episodes.

Wilson (08:48):
Oh man.

Captain (08:48):
I know Episode like five.

Wilson (08:51):
I think is really good.

Captain (08:52):
I heard, I saw some stuff about it and I know we
have to watch.
Well listen, this weekend I'mnot doing nothing.
I was excited to sit in thehouse.
Do you know that meme whereit's like what are you doing
this weekend?

Wilson (09:10):
It's like I'm enjoying my rent.
I haven't heard that before.

Captain (09:12):
You've never heard that .
Oh, I love that line.

Wilson (09:15):
Oh, I got to use that.

Captain (09:18):
Because I so rarely get to just sit in the house and do
nothing and I'm like, ooh, it'stime to rot yes.

Wilson (09:28):
Catch up on that.
Um, I have, like I I made itlike my routine now tuesday
nights, like after we get backfrom trivia.
I'm like the light's going waydown.
I'm gonna watch the new episodeof alien earth.

Captain (09:36):
Get kind of freaked out , wow wow, that sounds like such
a vibe it is a vibe.
It's really good okay, allright, well, we'll have to catch
up on that.
Well, I think the big thing wasdexter.
That was like the big thing ohmy gosh, I forgot I we like it
took.
I was very upset that Icouldn't watch the finale that
came out on friday until monday,but nothing.

(09:58):
We were able to avoid spoilers,yes I saw like a couple of
screenshots, but nothing thatlike.
If I ever saw like I just wouldscroll, I wouldn't even look at
it, I wouldn't even process it.
So I didn't get any spoilers.
I'm so glad that episode wascrazy.

Wilson (10:13):
It was really good.

Captain (10:14):
I loved seeing Brian Love seeing.

Wilson (10:17):
Brian, I was, yeah, yeah , spoiler.
Yeah, that gagged me a littlebit because I mean I was like
maybe Deb might do like anappearance, but I was like never
expecting.
I don't know the actor's namebut Brian.

Captain (10:32):
The fact that they could bring back so many actors
from the show is crazy, likeQuinn Masuka Batista, yeah,
brian Moser, and then you know,harry is in there, deb's in
there.
I'm like this is like basicallyeveryone left.
Even Dokes came back like for aghost scene, you know, in the

(10:52):
beginning of the season.

Wilson (10:53):
Oh yeah.

Captain (10:55):
Well, yeah, yeah, the only people we haven't seen is
like as a ghost is, like youknow, maria.
But I mean, why would she be aghost?
But you know what I mean.

Wilson (11:02):
Like I mean why would she be a ghost?
But you know what I mean.

Captain (11:03):
Like, almost every character from the first, from
the main cast is back, which islike crazy to have.

Wilson (11:10):
You know, and I don't honestly, even if it wouldn't
make sense somehow.
I just hope next season they'relike Deb was actually alive the
whole time.
I just like they're not goingto do it, but I feel like
they're already at that pointwhere, like, everyone would
forgive them for doing that,because it would be like
correcting the finale, like theoriginal finale Dude.

Captain (11:31):
This show like I don't know how long they've been
cooking it, but it is serving,like I don't know man, like
Michelin stars to the chef.
This is like it's so good, LikeI mean, the lowest rated
episode on IMD is like 8.9 orsomething.
It's like I cannot get over howwell they did and I'm so

(11:55):
excited for the next season.
I know I'm a little yeah, I'm alittle upset that the prequel
got.

Wilson (12:03):
Original Sin.

Captain (12:04):
Original Sin.

Wilson (12:06):
I'm still bummed about like they were all really good
in their like playing thosecharacters and I feel like I
think that's mostly why I feelbad, because I don't know, they
probably had this like what theythought would be this really
cool gig yeah christian slateris the only big name, like the
other people in that.

Captain (12:22):
I think this is like their main big role.
I do kind of feel shitty forthem.
They deserved more.

Wilson (12:30):
And I wanted more.
I know, I know Same.

Captain (12:34):
But maybe they will find a way to weasel back into
the franchise somehow.

Wilson (12:42):
Maybe, but that's so shitty they renewed it and went
back on the renewal.

Captain (12:47):
Yeah, I don't know how that works.
Did those people sign acontract already?

Wilson (12:51):
I think it's because Paramount was purchased and that
messed everything up.

Captain (12:57):
Well, they need to un-mess it up.

Wilson (13:00):
Yeah, have you heard anything about the Trinity show
that's supposed to come soon, uh, I did hear about that but I
was like I was thinking I heardthey are canceling it what
they're only doing I could bemistaken, but I I thought I had
heard that they were gonna onlyfocus on resurrection wow,

(13:25):
that's, that's crazy.
I could be wrong, but I thinkwith this shake-up of Paramount
being bought, everyone's likeokay, well, screw everything
else.

Captain (13:35):
I'm not finding anything.
Oh wait, maybe I don't know.
This is confusing.
The screen grabs they have forLithgow, john Lithgow, are so

(13:56):
unfortunate to him sometimes.

Wilson (14:02):
I guess I haven't really seen any.

Captain (14:04):
I just like I don't know when they're.
It's yeah, I don't, this is not.
I don't know.
You might have a better luckthan I would.
Oh, I see, despite the spinoffbeing written, it hasn't been
picked up yet.
It's completely written.

(14:26):
It says picked up yet it'scompletely written.
It says john lithgow alreadyagreed to do it.
Like everything's written johnlithgow's in.
They just haven't had somebodypick it up yet.

Wilson (14:35):
Wow they, they're, I mean they.
They could easily still changeit, but the wikipedia says it's
still in development.
There's just no date for it.
And it's still in development.
There's just no date for it andit's untitled.

Captain (14:48):
Well, someone get on that.
Where's Netflix when you needthem?
Dude like Netflix will pick upbasically anything.

Wilson (14:54):
Yeah.

Captain (14:55):
So get on there.
Sad Anyway, is that what wehave this week?

Wilson (15:03):
Oh the Conjuring, oh yeah, yeah, this doesn't be long
, I don't.
I didn't see you log in on imdor a letterbox, but did you see
the new conjuring?

Captain (15:12):
no, not yet sorry, I I saw it last night.

Wilson (15:16):
Um, it was better than the previous one okay, but the
previous one was not good um,yeah, I, overall I had a good
time.
Um, the only thing I'll sayabout it and it's not a spoiler,
but I think that the like veraand patrick wilson's characters,
like their characters, carrythat franchise so hard yeah,

(15:40):
like if it wasn't for them itwouldn't, I don't know we would
have lost this speaking of themum yeah, the last movie I
watched.

Captain (15:49):
Oh, I watched a netflix movie too, but um, that catfish
movie, um, have you seen thaton social media?

Wilson (15:57):
well, I've heard of it.

Captain (15:59):
I think maybe I've seen some clips, but I haven't
watched it yeah, I watched thatand then, um, jay got me to
watch speed after I said I hadnever seen it oh yeah, I saw.

Wilson (16:07):
You gave it like two stars or three or something it's
three and a half.

Captain (16:12):
Okay, keanu reeves is such a bad actor like I can't
get over how much of a bad actorhe is.
At least in the he he doesn'thave a lot of range, like his
acting is.
He's a perfect for roles likethe matrix, where he's got to be
like a little weird, a littlewonky dude okay I'll need to

(16:33):
re-watch speed because I haven'twatched it so or, like john,
wick, where it's like he needsto just be like a monotone, no
emotion.
In that movie.
He's supposed to be like anormal dude that has, like you
know, normal conversations andemotions.
I'm like, dude, you can't dothat.
He just can't do it and that'sfine.
It's just weird to see him dothat.
He's like, oh, this is soimportant.

(16:55):
I'm like, okay, but where's thecadence in your voice to show
that?

Wilson (17:02):
You're saying that Sandy carried that movie.
A cadence in your voice to showthat.
So you're saying that Sandycarried that movie, um or not
really.

Captain (17:09):
You know, I think the villain guy actually carries
that movie.
If I had, to say Pop quiz, hotshot, hot shot.

Wilson (17:20):
And I think we agreed last podcast that Jeff Daniels
is the bad guy.

Captain (17:24):
No, jeff Daniels is a friend.

Wilson (17:28):
Oh.

Captain (17:28):
It's the other guy, the old guy.

Wilson (17:30):
Maybe I got confused when I was re-listening for that
episode.

Captain (17:35):
You have not seen that movie in a while.

Wilson (17:38):
Yeah, I really haven't.

Captain (17:40):
What's K-Pop?
Demon Hunters.

Wilson (17:43):
You haven't seen that yet.
You haven't seen any memesabout it.

Captain (17:46):
No, somebody mentioned it to me that I should try it.
Is it on Netflix or something?

Wilson (17:51):
It is on Netflix.

Captain (17:53):
It's a movie.

Wilson (17:54):
It's an animated movie and it does, by appearances,
look like AI Netflix slop.
However, the songs slap andit's actually a pretty good
story.

Captain (18:04):
And the animation looks really cool.
I've heard that the music inthis is really good.

Wilson (18:09):
I've sent you TikToks with the music in it.

Captain (18:11):
Oh, okay, yeah, someone told me I should watch it,
actually while I was on vacation.

Wilson (18:20):
I didn't really want to watch it.
After I did I was like, okay,that was good, I'm glad I
watched it did you watch FreakerFriday?

Captain (18:25):
that movie is so cute it's so cute.

Wilson (18:29):
I would highly recommend it's so cute.
I would re-watch the first onethough but yeah, maybe I'll have
a double feature someday whenthe second one comes um.
But yeah, maybe I'll have adouble feature someday when the
second one comes out onstreaming okay yeah, all right,
that's all I got are you jumpingin here?

Captain (18:46):
am I jumping in here?

Wilson (18:47):
what do you want to do?
I don't think we ever agreed hewas uh driving the bus on this
one okay, I'm gonna speedingalong I'm gonna have you drive
the bus.

Captain (18:55):
I'll, I'll.
I can get myself together forthe next one okay, okay, all
right.

Wilson (19:01):
Well, welcome to the 177th episode of the Red Rum
podcast, where we review horrormovies and one thriller movie
while enjoying an adult beverageor two and I'm Captain and I'm
Wilson, and this week we'rereviewing the 2018 action
thriller film the Commuterstarring Liam Neeson.

Captain (19:23):
Now to be fair, Vera and Patrick are in here, like we
just talked about.

Wilson (19:29):
And Sam Neill.

Captain (19:31):
Sam Neill.
Oh yeah, Wait, he's a person.

Wilson (19:35):
Yeah, like Jurassic Park yeah yeah.
Event Horizon.
Yeah, yeah, wait, he's a person, yeah like jurassic park um,
yeah, yeah.

Captain (19:41):
Event horizon yeah, um, even totem or whatever.
The fuck bartholomew totembartholomew who's that little
boy that was at the beginning?

Wilson (19:48):
a little boy.
Oh, you're still talking aboutsam neill no, no, I'm just
saying no yeah, the, the guythat I think played tom and
baratheon, uh, was the son inthis movie yeah, like, even like
the kids in this movie arefamous people, so that is true.

Captain (20:06):
I mean, it's true, listen is it within the red rum
categories?
Questionable, it's on the didwe have?
A good time we did um I love ityeah, jay was too booked this
week to get us, uh, getting usthe sponsors, uh oh yeah, so no

(20:27):
sponsors this week.

Wilson (20:29):
Um so this was directed by jean collet sarah um every
time I glance that name, I I'mlike Jussie Smollett, I mean
like at a glance, like doesn'tthat just look whatever?
But anyway, he is known forHouse of Wax Orphan the Shallows

(20:54):
, I think is that the one withthe high school and the wait?
That's the Gallows.

Captain (20:56):
I was going to say isn't the shallows.
Is that the one with?
Oh no, that's the shark one.
What's the one with BradleyCooper and Lady Gaga?

Wilson (21:07):
A Star is Born, the song called Shallows.

Captain (21:09):
Yes, no, that's a shark movie.

Wilson (21:12):
Yeah, and then he's also worked with Liam Neeson a bunch
on the Unknown Non-Stop Run AllNight, the Commuter and also
what?
Also Dwayne.

Captain (21:25):
Johnson on blockbuster films like Jungle Cruise and
Black Adam, and he did theNetflix movie Carry On that I
watched and it was pretty good.

Wilson (21:37):
Did you watch that movie Carry On?
I watched and it was prettygood.
Did you watch that?

Captain (21:40):
movie Carry.

Wilson (21:40):
On.
Yeah, no, I didn't watch BlackAdam or Jungle Cruise.

Captain (21:45):
Oh, I watched Jungle Cruise.
It's basically Jumanji.

Wilson (21:48):
Wait, you put in here basically every movie he does is
a hit.
So I don't think Black Adam.

Captain (21:54):
Okay, orphan House of Wax, the Commuter.

Wilson (21:58):
I mean, was House of Wax a hit?

Captain (22:02):
Basically every movie he does are like blockbuster
movies.

Wilson (22:06):
Okay, so like they're generally terrible movies, but
they get a lot of money, DidHouse of Wax have bad ratings
when we did it?
I don't think it did well.
Let me pop it open.
Okay, that was open okay, thatwas episode.

Captain (22:19):
That was a while ago.
That was episode like 137 thatsounds right, am I?

Wilson (22:27):
am I checking that?

Captain (22:28):
no, I can check, you're gonna bop open something,
though where are you gonna bopopen?

Wilson (22:32):
um house of wax.
It kind of lost money.
Uh, it was episode 119 oh uh,yeah that's that's fine.
What does this guy look like?

Captain (22:45):
oh, he looks mysterious .
You see his face no, you puthim in here, no no, I just
looked at his wikipedia.
It's a very mysterious picture.

Wilson (23:00):
Oh, he did the woman in the.
Oh, I didn't see that, but Idon't think that did well either
woman in the what the sorry,the yard oh yes, that movie had
terrible reviews.
I never watched it yeah, likeit looked, like it would have
been scary, but again ablumhouse movie and did not do
well he looks like two peoplemixed together um but I can't

(23:24):
tell who it is yeah yeah, Ican't.

Captain (23:28):
I don't know, my brains can't focus on, couldn't yeah,
I couldn't tell you um, okay,that was liam neeson.
Oh no, that was the director.

Wilson (23:38):
Right, right oh yeah, okay, so now we can go in the
cast.
Um.
Yeah, so we got liam neeson um,as discussed.
You'll know him from things ofassorted several.

Captain (23:50):
Oh my gosh taken and star wars and schindler's list
and batman begins.

Wilson (23:57):
He just did naked gun um for some reason, when you said
naked, naked gun, I heard topgun and I was like no, he didn't
um he's dating pamela andersonI think I heard that wasn't real
what I'm upset I think I like,uh, I feel like his son, or like

(24:22):
pamela anderson's son was likeyeah, that wasn't.
They didn't okay, publicity.

Captain (24:28):
Pamela anderson told vanity fair that it is not a
stunt, that is a rumor oh okay,wow, it's one surprise after
another the ups and downs ofhollywood oh man, okay, peppa
anderson kind of, kind of stilllike gets it.
You know what I mean?

Wilson (24:48):
I mean she is literally getting it, but I mean yeah, but
she looks really good and Ithink it's because she, like, I
mean, she's had some face workdone, but but it's not like a
lot.

Captain (24:59):
Yeah, she, yeah, no, she takes care of herself.

Wilson (25:04):
They need to update Liam Neeson's wiki because it still
says he hasn't dated anyonesince like a lady right after
his wife died, and that he'spassed all that.

Captain (25:16):
Well, that was prior to meeting Bombshell Pam.

Wilson (25:20):
That's true.

Captain (25:22):
Okay.

Wilson (25:23):
Man.
This man is 73 years old.

Captain (25:27):
You know his profile.
I always am staring at itbecause it's such an interesting
profile of his face.
I don't know if I've ever likepaid attention like the bridge
of his nose comes out in such away where I'm like, wow,
people's faces don't really looklike that not in a bad way, but
but it's just a very distinctprofile you never look later

(25:52):
nice now you make me sound likeI'm a crazy person.

Wilson (25:55):
Well, no, you might be brightest.
I never looked at it andthought what an interesting
profile.

Captain (25:59):
That's a profile.

Wilson (26:04):
Yeah, we also have Vera Farmiga in this movie.
Yeah, I mean, that's a profile.

Captain (26:11):
I don't know His nose comes out in such a way.

Wilson (26:16):
And it's like kind of high.

Captain (26:17):
You were going to say kind of hot, go on, we are
famiga uh, yeah, so I I love herum.
She was in the movie joshuashe's anyways such a b in this
movie oh, this, yeah, um theorphan.

Wilson (26:34):
I don't remember her in there.
Obviously she she's LorraineWarren in the Conjuring movies,
or like that whole universe.
She played Norma Bates, normanBates' mother, in Bates Motel.

Captain (26:49):
I'm sorry, she's the older sister.
What their names are?
Norma and Norman.
Yeah, I mean you watch the showright's stuff.

Wilson (26:59):
She's kind of weird I only watched like two episodes
um, but it's good they've grant,they've been granted hatred
from me with norma and normanwell, that's okay, uh, and she's
the older sister to taissafarmiga from um uh american
horror story.

Captain (27:19):
Yeah, taissa.
Taissa can get it too.

Wilson (27:21):
I don't know where she's at yeah, there was, um, there's
a scene in the movie they do aflashback and I was like why
didn't they use taissa?
And I was like oh right, well,they can't because she was in
the nun.
But I was like that's not aspoiler, but I won't say
anything more, just in case, um,okay, uh, and then that patrick
wilson.

Captain (27:42):
So again, like they're just in here, this was like this
whole like 2010s was really bigfor patrick wilson you know,
what's interesting is like, okay, they are both in this movie
and they do not talk and yet,like two years later, they're
like filming the conjuringtogether as husband and wife.

Wilson (27:59):
It's like so weird didn't the conjuring come out in
2017?
Am I wrong?

Captain (28:04):
I thought the first one was 2013.
Yeah, the first conjuring says2013, damn okay, that was like
way, that was way longer than Ithought okay yeah, so like
probably two years later, theywere like like they, they were
like playing husband and wifeand like, yeah, like you said,
carried this franchise.

Wilson (28:24):
And I'm like isn't that so weird that they were on the
same movie together?
Yeah, I mean, because I mean,okay, he was in these movies.
He was in Insidious around thesame time, and then he was also
in the Watchmen.
He's big in that, so yeah, so,so he plays a detective.
We also have jonathan banks.
Uh, mike from um mikeermantrout yep, uh, he just

(28:46):
plays a guy on the train.
Um, he's in.
Better call saul the el caminomovie.

Captain (28:52):
We know him yeah, he did some other stuff, but he's
mostly known for the breakingbad stuff yeah, uh, then we have
sam neill who plays the apolice captain, so he's in
sleeping dogs.

Wilson (29:04):
Uh, you probably saw him in omen 3 um jurassic park.
That's the really big one umevent horizon has sam neill been
to steel city con?

Captain (29:14):
that seems like a great still city con person.

Wilson (29:17):
Uh, I don't know, maybe some year, but yeah, if I ever
saw he was going to be like I'mgoing.

Captain (29:23):
You've been, you've been sending me some hits yeah,
they just keep like pumping themout.

Wilson (29:28):
I'm sure some of them will call off.

Captain (29:29):
Yeah dude, but if x-file shows up, we, we they
were flashing them.
I don't know.

Wilson (29:39):
I'm like I would be so excited oh yeah okay, I feel
like I don't know if I guesssteel city con's big enough for
that.
I feel like they would go togalaxy con yeah, but probably in
like la or you know west, yeah,yeah, um.
And we have elizabeth mcgovern,uh, mostly known for downton

(29:59):
abbey, um, I never watched thatit's real.
It was surprisingly good like.

Captain (30:06):
I would like it, I could probably get sucked in.
A lot of people got sucked in,so I probably get sucked in.

Wilson (30:10):
Yeah, like period pieces like that generally don't
really interest me, but after acouple episodes I was like how
are we doing?

Captain (30:16):
this and I just I, I binged all of it and I'm gonna
see that movie in theaters.
Wait, wait, what?
How many seasons are there?
Uh five is that a lie?

Wilson (30:31):
is that?
Am I lying?

Captain (30:33):
oh, I see here, because it says 2010 and 2015 there's
oh, there's six seasons.

Wilson (30:39):
They had two movies and now a third one is coming out in
theaters are the movies.

Captain (30:45):
Well, I guess you wouldn't know.
Have you seen the other movies?
Yeah do they?
They all go inside the samestory as it follows the same
family, different stories, Iguess okay you should watch it,
do it I probably don't know ifyou want to yeah, at least give
it a try.

Wilson (31:05):
Um, all right, then we have florence pew.
This is like baby florence pew,I barely even recognized.

Captain (31:10):
Yeah I knew that she was gonna be in this because I
did the this, I did our script,and then, when she came on
screen, I looked at you and youhad no reaction.
I was like, oh, he must notrealize.

Wilson (31:22):
Yeah, but everyone knows her from Midsommar.
She was in Little Women, shewas in the Thunderbolts, that
other movie with that thingabout with Olivia Wilde I think
the Don't Ray worry darling ohyeah, yeah, you're right with um

(31:42):
harry styles or something yeahum she.

Captain (31:47):
I like her role in thunderbolts.
I like her character in themovie was surprisingly good.

Wilson (31:51):
I thought it was gonna be absolute garbage, but yeah I
liked it.

Captain (31:55):
Uh, then we have I don't know who this is damson
edris yes, he's like fromsnowfall and he was just in that
new f1 snowfall.
I didn't see f1 oh, you'retrash snowfall damson he, he is
so good in snowfall.

Wilson (32:14):
He's the main character he was like barely in this movie
.

Captain (32:21):
Okay, but he is a famous person.
He just co -led a movie, ablockbuster movie, with Brad
Pitt.

Wilson (32:28):
What movie.

Captain (32:29):
F1.
What's happening?

Wilson (32:32):
Oh wait, wow, Okay, okay , that's impressive.

Captain (32:35):
Him and Brad Pitt were the co-leads for that movie.
Wow, okay, anyway, anyway, he'sreally good in snowfall.
I love him.
He is um one of these peoplethat are british but you would
never know because theiramerican accent's really good.
Oh, they love to do that I know, when you hear him talk he's
like oh governor yeah, I'm sure,sure he sounds just like that

(32:58):
um, and you're like, wow anyway.
Um, there's a gazillion peoplein this movie and probably some
of them have done other stuff,but um, yeah, those are the main
people I picked up on the oneof the police officers or fbi
agents.

Wilson (33:16):
I was like, is that the guy from Alien Romulus?
But I think I decided it wasn't.

Captain (33:21):
Oh, Damson Idris's partner Garcia.

Wilson (33:26):
Maybe.
Why don't I see his name here?

Captain (33:33):
Couldn't tell you.

Wilson (33:34):
I'm looking on Wikipedia and I don't see an Agent Garcia
.

Captain (33:39):
Well, that's definitely what they called him.
Yeah, you're right.

Wilson (33:45):
Okay, hold on.
I need to see who this is.
Have you watched?

Captain (33:51):
the bootleg version, or something.

Wilson (33:54):
I mean it had all those other people in it, that's true.

Captain (34:00):
Did I have anybody else to mention?
I don't think so.
Um, like I said that, likethere's so many people in the
cast, is there any that hisfriend on the train, that guy's
not a real person, like a bigperson, right?
What friend on the train the um, the guy that he was playing
cards with oh, that he borrowedthe cell phone.
I don't know that is okay, yeah, which means he's not a real

(34:25):
person um, yeah, I think.

Wilson (34:29):
Okay, that's it for the, that's it for the cast yeah,
yeah so I'm bopping in the.
The movie um movie starts offkind of interesting and I was a
little confused for a secondbecause it's like it's trying to
give the idea of Liam Neeson'scharacter is doing this very
repetitive morning routine.
So for the first couple minutesit's just flashes of similar

(34:50):
scenes but doing the same thing,like waking up in the morning,
making breakfast, wife and kid,but they're very abrupt cuts
that it like I was confusedfirst time it happened.
I was like did I accidentallyrewind?

Captain (35:04):
so I don't know um, yeah, no, I was confused too,
but I I realized, yeah, Irealized that's what's what it
was.
Um, but yeah, it's, it's tryingto show he has like a mundane
life, like he's, you know, Imean mundane, but like he's just
a normal person.
I think is what it's trying toshow.

Wilson (35:22):
Yeah.

Captain (35:23):
Like he's talking to his wife their kid's going to
college.
Very quickly he found out thatthey have big money problems
because he like lost everythingin the 2008 crash.
I was like too soon.
Dude, yeah and crash.
I was like too soon, dude.

Wilson (35:37):
Yeah, and when he gets to work, basically his boss is
like no-transcript and we'rebasically paycheck to paycheck
and the guy's like sorry, hesaid we have two mortgages, how
are you doing this?

Captain (35:50):
He worked there for 10 years and the guy was like, yeah
, I don't know, man, you're justnot returning enough.
He's selling life insurance.
How much life insurance do youhave to sell?
Don't you have to insure onelife a month?
I mean, right, who are?

Wilson (36:04):
all these people coming in your office all the time
asking to insure themselves Imean if the end of the movie is
any sign like it might have beenorchestrated.
No, I mean like they might have.

Captain (36:14):
Oh, I thought you were gonna say life should be insured
based on the end of the movie,sure, but um, yeah, no,
definitely, definitely, probablyorchestrated.
Um, but yeah, he's um unhappy.
He doesn't tell his wife aboutit when she calls him and then
he goes drinking in a bar yeah,then he meets.

Wilson (36:35):
We meet patrick wilson, who was his.
We find out that liam neesonused to be a cop.
Uh, like 10 years, whatever 10years ago he was a cop and that
was his partner for seven years,um, and then they're talking
about this like they'rereferring to this police captain
that also comes on the bar andyou get the impression he's kind
of skeevy.
Um, and patrick wilson, he'slike you know, you had my back

(36:58):
for so many years.

Captain (36:59):
You know you should let other people take care of you
basically yeah, because he tellshim about all the troubles he
has with his, with getting firedand stuff um and then we see
the tv show the news report ofsome what they call him city
planner yeah um, kill himself,like commit suicide off a
building, but then there's liketalks that it might be like some

(37:23):
big conspiracy theory, um, andlike you know, maybe it wasn't
suicide and like I don't know,there's like an investigation
into it and they even they domake a comment Liam Neeson and
Patrick Wilson do make a commentabout, like you know, it's
always some dirty cops or thecops are becoming dirty and I
don't know Liam Neeson was agood cop when he was a cop and

(37:44):
like whatever.

Wilson (37:48):
Yeah, so they basically leave the bar and the guy, and
liam neeson, starts to head homeon his you know, commute home
on the train.
Um, while he's getting on thetrain, somebody like steals his
phone, um, and you know, thetrain departs dude watching that
I'm like this demand is takingl after l like.

Captain (38:11):
I do not like watching movies where there's like scene
after scene of just like I don'tknow bad can't catch a break
yeah, it's like lost his job,lost his phone yeah, um, but
yeah, he gets on.
Oh, they're doing bag checkstoo, but then, yeah, he gets on
the train, and quickly.

(38:31):
Vera, what's her name?
Vera Formiga is like staring athim and then like approaches
him when there's a seat opennext to him.

Wilson (38:41):
And she's like.
She basically starts off withlike oh, you know I'm very
talkative, I can look at anyonein the room and kind of figure
out what type of person they are.
And she's like I can figure outwhat type of person you are and
I have a hypothetical questionfor you.
And she starts to explainhypothetically there's $25,000
in the bathroom.

(39:02):
If you do one simple thing forme, which is find this person
that has a bag, then you'll getanother a hundred thousand
dollars yeah, seventy fivethousand a hundred.
Oh, okay, yeah um, and he's likeobviously super skeptical, and
she's like well bye, and shegets off the train the questions

(39:23):
that he's asking her.

Captain (39:24):
Thank god that they run .
They.
They seem like normal questionsbecause sometimes in movies
like this you're like this is sounrealistic.
But no, his questions wereactually a very realistic like
basically what I was sayingthinking in my head when she was
talking.
But, um, she does like she sayssomething about how she like
studies people's personalitiesand behaviors and like she talks

(39:45):
about the myers-Briggs 17 or 16personalities, but she says
like this is really to find outwhat kind of person you are.
And then, before she leaves,she says like this is you have
the perfect set of skills forthis as an ex-cop.
But like they've never met, sohe knows that she knows stuff

(40:06):
about him that she shouldn't.
Because he even says like howdo, how would you know that?
But then, yeah, she just bopsoff the train.
She says the person's nicknameis Prynne, they have a bag and
they have something in that bagthat was stolen, doesn't belong
to them.

Wilson (40:28):
And that's really all he's got for clues?

Captain (40:30):
Yes, oh and where they're getting off.
Yes, what stop?

Wilson (40:34):
they're getting off, yeah, and I think he finds the.
When he finds the money in thebathroom, it's like, obviously
this is real, yeah, and he doesdecide that he doesn't want to
do anything about it.

Captain (40:50):
But that doesn't go on long.
No, because his wife's ringgets handed to him.

Wilson (40:54):
Yeah, they're like so obviously they have his family.
And then he tries to slip anote to Jonathan Banks's
character to call the police.
He gets off the train and thenVera calls him.
She's like why did you do that?
Now we have to cover a track.
So she's like, look out thewindow and you see somebody push

(41:14):
jonathan banks in front of abus.

Captain (41:17):
And he does that was a crazy.
I was not expecting that man todie so quickly like no, this
movie like picks it up realquick yeah.
So he was like, oh shit, they'renot fucking around and he goes.
Okay, let's find everybody witha clicker, with a ticket
clicked, that is going to zoneseven, since that's where, um,

(41:40):
the stop is that they you knowthey said that person would get
off that um, and he knows it hasto be, uh, not a typical daily
commuter that he talks to andruns into all the time.
So, um, similar, familiar facesobviously not them.
So he like goes through, hewalks to the train and like
tries to kind of assess who, um,yeah, who from the crowd could

(42:02):
be the person that they'relooking for.

Wilson (42:07):
Mm.
Um, so let's see it's.
I think at some point he whathappens next?

Captain (42:14):
he borrows that guy's phone to try to call his wife
yeah, doesn't answer.
And then he does call uh hispolice friend, uh patrick
wilson's character yeah to likego check on his, on his wife, um
, so he's like waiting for acall back about that yeah, and
he goes through and he liketalks to a couple different
people on the train that youknow we've kind of been

(42:36):
introduced to like some assholefrom golden sacks and like, uh,
some lady that's being weird onlike texting on her phone
constantly, um, florence pew,because you know she's playing
like some teenager that has abunch of fake IDs on her, so
like we're seeing these scenes,but nothing's getting.
Really nothing seems obviouslylike suspicious um, until Liam

(43:00):
Neeson finds um a guy with asnake tattoo that is carrying a
bag and acting kind of weird.
Um, and he approaches him.
I think this guy with a snaketattoo actually like he's the
first attacker and he goes whyare you following me?
What do you know?
And then they get into likethis big fist fight, um, oh, and

(43:21):
at some point, when he's on thephone, when liam nason's on the
phone with vera formiga, um, hetells her like you need to put
tracker on the bag.
So during that fist fight hedoes get a tracker on the bag.
So during that fist fight, hedoes get a tracker on that bag
of that guy with the snaketattoo.

Wilson (43:35):
And then Liam Neeson eventually goes back to try to
find that guy because he's likeyou know, I actually need to
protect him because I don't wanthim to die.

Captain (43:44):
Oh, is that why he went back?

Wilson (43:46):
I think so.
I think this is where he findsout like the intent is to kill
the person that he tags which hewasn't really aware of, but he
can't find him.
But eventually here's a phoneringing in the floor and he,
like, lifts up a floor plate.
It was an empty car and there'sa dead body.

Captain (44:04):
It's the guy, dude.
It was like not even fiveminutes have gone by that this
man was tagged and then murdered.

Wilson (44:10):
Yeah, and then Vera calls and she was like you,
tagged the wrong person and youkilled him.
Yeah.
Oh now the police are going toboard and you need to.

Captain (44:21):
He's an FBI agent, by the way.

Wilson (44:24):
Oh yeah, the guy he tagged yeah.

Captain (44:26):
Yeah, oh yeah.
So the police aren't going toget on the train because one of
the train conductors reportedLiam Neeson himself as a
suspicious activity, becausehe's being really fucking weird.
Yeah, so they reported him andthey were supposed to stop the
train at the next stop andarrest Liam Neeson which is why
there's all these cops here buthe's not allowed to leave the

(44:46):
train.

Wilson (44:57):
Like according to the rules, it's like you can't leave
the train.
You got to find this person, um, or your family dies, yeah.
So he ends up having to hidenext to the body under the train
while the police board.
So he escaped, or like hedoesn't get caught.
But then, like the train startsmoving and he has to like
escape under the train startsmoving and he has to like escape
under the train before it ismoving too fast, jump back on
the train and sneaks back in.

Captain (45:16):
So there he's fine.
Yeah, it's a little extra.

Wilson (45:20):
Yeah, and then Vera calls and she's like, oh, I'm
impressed.

Captain (45:24):
What are you doing after this?
I just think it's so gross thathe had to hide next to a dead
body.
That's so nasty.

Wilson (45:33):
Yeah, oh, but during this part he does lose all the
$25,000.

Captain (45:39):
Oh my God, that was one of the hardest things to watch.
His bag snags and the first$25,000 fell out of the bag.
I'm like Jesus Christ man, justgo, just get out of the bag.
I'm like jesus christ man, man,just just go, just get out of
here yeah, so um, after that hedoes sabotage the train's air
conditioning.
That and that forces all the umthe passengers to go to the one

(46:02):
car that has working airconditioning and this will make
it easier for him to find, youknow, the passenger yes, I think
he narrows it down to like fivepeople or four people in that
car and he's not supposed totell anybody about what Vera
told him.
But he just starts asking thekind of the car like openly,
like hey, hypothetically, ifthis happened, and he just

(46:23):
basically repeats what Vera toldhim.
You know, like they asked likewould you?
He asked like would you do it,would you take the money?
And then they you know the guy,one guy was like hell, yeah, I
would.
And then he was like then theyasked him, they were asking him
like would you take the money?
And he starts laughing, he goesI already did.

(46:45):
And he kind of just like takescontrol of the that car to try
to figure out, um, who's thewho's prin?

Wilson (46:53):
yeah.
So he finds someone that, likethey are trying to lead us to
believe might be him, which isthis guy that has a guitar case.
So they go to a different carand we find out the guy in the
guitar guitar case.
He's actually the assassin onthe train that is supposed to
kill prin.

Captain (47:09):
When they're found, yeah, when it's identified who
prin is um, and then they havethis ridiculous fight where liam
neeson is hitting him with aguitar.
So you hear like the wow whenhe's yeah, something about it is
so cartoony, like I don't knowif it's supposed to be comedic,
but it's very like I don't know.

(47:29):
Some of the fighting in this isvery kind of like I yeah, it
can't be almost um.

Wilson (47:35):
I don't know if that's just 2010 or supposed to be yeah
, I don't know, I mean you saidit was like basically final
destination at a certain point,like yeah, it's just like all
the bad, terrible, catastrophicthings that go wrong.
Uh, but anyway, he throws theguitar guy out a window yeah,

(47:55):
underneath another train thatwas passing yeah, yep.
So he goes back to the othercar.
They're like where'd he go?

Captain (48:01):
and he's like, oh, he got off I love that line, um,
and then the train.
He tells everybody, he tellsthe conductor they have to stop
the train because if they getoff at the next stop somebody's
going to die.
So, of course, when they hitthe brakes, though, part of the
train explodes and it's alreadybeen hot-wired, whatever to not

(48:25):
the brakes not to work.
The conductor's dead, dead, ofcourse.
And uh, and there's, like this,another crazy action sequence
of liam neeson and the can andone of the train conductors,
like hopping back and forth fromcar to car, taking the, getting
the last car unhooked, yeah,which?

Wilson (48:45):
basically like barely works in the end, like the
train's already on the curve.

Captain (48:50):
I don't know what difference it's going to make at
this point and it and didn'treally make much it didn't
really make much of a differenceI mean, yeah, the train, they
said it was going like 70 milesan hour on a curve, so like
they're not, like they unhookthe back of the like you know,
the car they're on, so it's notimmediately moving or it's not
continuously moving 70 miles anhour, but, um, it still is

(49:13):
moving that fast for a littlebit yeah, so it.

Wilson (49:16):
It basically derails, but they're like a little safer
and then liam has.
So everyone in the car kind ofknows the situation.

Captain (49:23):
But he has them all like put paper over the windows,
hold on before.
Is that when he oh no, no, no,no, wait, no.
When does he have a scene withprim where he talks to the girl?

Wilson (49:35):
I think it's right.
I think it's.
Is it right before the trainderails?
Oh yeah, well, we should saythat oh yeah, so he does
identify the actual print andit's like this I don't know late
teens, early 20s girl that itwas her cousin and she witnessed
his like.

Captain (49:52):
Sorry the news story in the beginning that the city
planner yeah, that was hercousin.
And she said he didn't commitsuicide.
Two guys came in looking forhim and they didn't know that
she was there and like theybasically beat him up and killed
him.
And then she tells him, tells Ithink leon weeson says why
didn't you go to the cops?
And she said it was cops thatkilled him.

(50:12):
Which was like.
So then everybody in the carhears this, like it's really
quiet, it's a pin drop.
So I think everybody's a littlebit on board that like not to
chose the cops because you knowthey're gonna be after her
obviously yeah, and she has theevidence on a hard drive.
Oh yeah, the stolen item was ahard drive that would have

(50:34):
information on there.

Wilson (50:36):
Yeah, so whenever the train crashes they put newspaper
all over the windows so ifsnipers come they can't
immediately shoot them.

Captain (50:45):
They were quick with it .
Liam Neeson was like get paperon the windows now and they were
like why?
And he was like get paper onthe windows now?
And they were like why?
And he was like do it.
And they're they, just everyonedid it.
It was kind of crazy thatex-cop stuff.

Wilson (50:53):
Yeah, so, um, yeah.
So all the police come.
We see sam neill's policecaptainess show up and then, um,
his uh, patrick wilson'scharacter also shows up and he
comes up to the train trying tolike negotiate, um.
So they end up saying like youknow, let go some, let go of
some hostages.
A ton of people came out andthey'll trade.

(51:14):
So patrick wilson went in thetrain car um.
So the cops have some sort oflike.
I guess it's thermal vision Idon't know what that was like
just patrick wilson's characteris blue but everyone else is
yellow they said he was hot,like he was wired with something
, I think I thought they justmeant he was hot, like he had a

(51:35):
mic on him, like yeah he hadlike a thing on his shoulder.

Captain (51:38):
I don't know what the fuck that thermal vision was,
where it has the outline of hiswhole person.

Wilson (51:42):
They don't even know yeah, that was some like pseudo
technology there or something,but um, so they're basically
talking in there and liam neesoncomes to the conclusion like
patrick wilson is the bad guy.
He ratted him out now wilson.

Captain (51:57):
What did I say in the notes early in the movie?
I said patrick wilson is sus,did I not?

Wilson (52:03):
you did say it.
I do remember you putting susin there.

Captain (52:06):
He was sus, because the very first phone call he makes
to him when he wants to reportthis weirdness, when he tries to
call his wife and then he callsPatrick, was like I don't know.
Patrick was like, not, I don'tknow, he was being weird on the
phone.
He wasn't like oh my God, hewas just like oh okay, we'll get

(52:27):
some cops to your house.

Wilson (52:28):
I don't know.
Yeah, so it was a little sus um.
And then they have like a.
You know, patrick basicallyadmits to it.
He's like I have a family too,they're gonna get you.
And then he goes and tries tokill prin.
But he does like pause for asecond once he notices that
pinrynne is like a young girl.

(52:49):
But then he's like I'm justgoing to kill her anyway.

Captain (52:52):
No, she just says I'm Prynne and then like four other
people stand up.

Wilson (52:57):
Oh well, that yeah they go.

Captain (52:58):
No, I'm Prynne and I'm like this is so.
Disney, I don't know what'shappening here.
You know everyone's P, but mything is okay.
Patrick Wilson is killing awitness to a crime, right?
Why the fuck would he leavewitnesses to this crime Like?
Wouldn't he kill everybody onthat train?
He's actively killing a witness.

(53:18):
These are more witnesses to himkilling another witness.

Wilson (53:21):
He probably would have to.

Captain (53:22):
Yeah, like I don't know what the I don't know why.
There was a thought process.
I don't know.
That would be my thought if Iwas a hostage on there.
I'm like we're all dead.
If he's kids to kill, it's allof us.

Wilson (53:31):
Yeah, well, he's a dummy anyway.
So, yeah, anyway, he ends updying because during the
struggle, like Liam Neesonfighting.
Yeah, Liam Neeson takes thescanny, the thing that he was
wearing.
That makes him look like thegood guy.
So when the police outside havea clear shot, I don't know how

(53:52):
they didn't have that already.

Captain (53:53):
I know they were like all right, let's turn the vision
on, yeah.

Wilson (53:57):
They shoot Patrick Wilson.
They don't know it's him, he'sdead Police captain or whatever.
Comes in and he's like, yeah,we suspected there was some foul
play in the department and yourfamily's safe.

Captain (54:13):
Yeah, and the F?
No, the FBI comes in cause.
They, they want to grab print?
Yeah, they.
But they tell him like, yeah,we arrested three guys outside
your house, your family's good,um, and they were about to die,
um, but the closure of thismovie, where like they're
wrapping it up and everybody'sfucking chuckling and hee-hawing

(54:37):
and I was like this is sounrealistic, like the dialogue
at the end of the movie is sosubpar.
I don't know they wrapped it uptoo nicely it was like literally
like he's like the old champ, Idon't know it was so.
Oh, I was like literally likehe's like ha, you old champ.
I don't know it was so.
Ugh, I was like why am Iwatching some like I don't know,
like what, are those reallycorny?

Wilson (55:00):
Like a Hallmark movie.

Captain (55:01):
No, but like what?
Is it CBS or not CBS?
What is like the little stupidlittle drama sitcoms like
telenovoila type?

Wilson (55:10):
like soaps, soap operas not so bad.
I don't know what abc, abc like,abc family shows like oh, oh
okay it was like yeah, like thatyeah yeah, because like this
movie felt like the type thatlike, oh, he'd like kind of win
at the end, but then there'd bethe twist of like oh, but the
whole department's bad, or Idon't know yeah, for a second I

(55:31):
thought this whole thing waslike a game, because vera vera
formiga says the point of whatwe're doing is I want to find
out what type of person you are.

Captain (55:40):
So I thought like there might be this like big reveal
where it was like none of whatshe told you was real, but she
just wanted to see what youwould do, like some weird
psychological torment, um, butit wasn't that that's not maybe
in some version of the script itwas this feels like it got
rewrites, but I don't know um,yeah, and then the very last

(56:01):
scene is even more of a wrap-upwith him.
Uh, getting vera train, oh hegets her too.

Wilson (56:09):
Yeah, yep, he finds her and then he's like she's like
what do you expect to do?
And he pulls out his badgebecause he's a police officer
again.

Captain (56:17):
Which I don't understand.
That's not a big gotcha,considering she already had
police cops under her, like onher paycheck.

Wilson (56:26):
Yeah.

Captain (56:27):
What do you call that Payroll?

Wilson (56:29):
Payroll.

Captain (56:29):
Payroll yeah.

Wilson (56:31):
Something.

Captain (56:32):
So like that's not a really big gotcha.
Maybe she's just saying that hecan't be bought, but he was
already bought once, I don'tknow.
It's confusing, it's not ideal.

Wilson (56:41):
Yeah, so that's a good segue into what would you rate
it.

Captain (56:47):
Hmm, the Rotten Tomatoes is a 55 and a 40.
I mean, I actually like themovie is thriller, like I do.
I was thrilled.

Wilson (57:00):
Yeah, we were both locked in.

Captain (57:02):
Like I was thrilled.
The thrill is there.
I just really don't like howthey like about a christmas bow
on the end of a movie.
Um, um, yeah, I'd say this islike a three and a half on
letterbox.
So, uh, maybe like a three, athree on letter, yeah, so like,

(57:23):
maybe like a 60.
, 60.

Wilson (57:29):
Okay, I gave it two and a half on Letterboxd.
And I gave it a 45.

Captain (57:36):
Oh wow, it was too thrilled to give it a bad score
for me.

Wilson (57:43):
I had a good time.
I just don't think it was agreat movie.

Captain (57:47):
What was this called the Commuter?
Let me put this on Letterboxdit really does sound like a
great movie.
Um, what was this called thecommuter?

Wilson (57:49):
let me put this on letterboxd um it really does
sound like um uh.
Jason statham movie jasonstatham.

Captain (58:04):
You know me, mostly known for my, my impressions.

Wilson (58:07):
I was taking a drink.

Captain (58:14):
I have notoriously bad impressions.

Wilson (58:16):
I thought, it was good.
I mean, I knew what you weretrying to do.

Captain (58:22):
Okay, what do you got here for the other num-nums?

Wilson (58:25):
Other num-nums.

Captain (58:31):
The budget was $30 million and the box office was
119, so it did very well.
I remember when this movie wasbeing advertised and coming out
in theaters.
I do remember that it waspretty.
I don't remember that at all itwas pretty big advertised I
mean I'm surprised they didn'tmake a sequel of how well it did
well, they kind of caught verVera Farmiga at the end there,
so I don't think they were goingto.

Wilson (58:52):
They could have left that open, though, but there was
so much room to leave that openfor her next stunt.

Captain (59:01):
Yeah, I don't think there's some fake Commuter 2
stuff online, but it's notreal's not real um yeah,
naturally, uh hot goss oh yeah,hit me with that goose hot goose
.

Wilson (59:18):
Um, all right.
Well, the big one is um uh,neeson said that he was on a
talk show and no, none of thescenes were filmed on board an
actual train I guess thatdoesn't really surprise me.
It's not like they film planescenes on actual planes, but, um
, they were all shot on sound,sound stage with just a mock-up,

(59:39):
um, you know, only dressed up alittle bit, and then the
scenery was added inpost-production because of green
screens okay, so I guess it'snot, it's not that much hot goss
.

Captain (59:49):
It doesn't look bad.

Wilson (59:52):
No, it doesn't.

Captain (59:53):
Even the CGI of the train derailment didn't look bad
.

Wilson (59:57):
I didn't love it, but I guess it could have been worse.
It could have been two blocksfalling over.

Captain (01:00:06):
It could have been way worse.
I was surprised for 15 yearsago where, where we were, that's
wait, this is a 2018 movie nowait, this city I think this is
a 2010.
Oh no, this is no.
The other one is 2010.
Wait, this is 2018.
Oh, I'm, oh, I, I like I'm waythe fucked off.
Okay, sorry, wait so this moviecame out after the first

(01:00:31):
Conjuring.

Wilson (01:00:32):
Yes, like five years after.

Captain (01:00:34):
Oh yeah, yeah, I thought it was before, no, no,
no, it's after.
So Patrick and Vera werealready a couple Like balls deep
in.

Wilson (01:00:42):
Conjuring.

Captain (01:00:44):
I thought you were going to say in each other, I
mean well.
In the movie in the universe.

Wilson (01:00:53):
Yeah, yeah, next shot Goss, Even though she got
prominent second billing.
Vera is like only in there forsix minutes, but she was huge at
the time.
I mean she's still pretty big,but you know, like very
conjuring around that timeperiod um another one oh,

(01:01:14):
myers-briggs yeah, the 16personalities that her character
refers to when she strikes upthe initial conversation on the
train are myers-briggs, and wejust did that test before we
started this episode I'm an esfjand I'm an isfJ and I'm an ISFJ
.
Shocking, shocking.
All right, another one Towardsthe beginning of the film, when

(01:01:36):
Liam Neeson's character iswalking through Grand Central
Terminal, there is a poster forPaddington 2.

Captain (01:01:42):
Oh, best movie, Best movie in the books.

Wilson (01:01:45):
I think it's neat that it shared a US release date with
the Commuter, which is January12th.

Captain (01:01:51):
Oh wow, that's funny.

Wilson (01:01:55):
This one's, I guess, just interesting.
This is the second movie tohave Vera and an incident on a
commuter train.

Captain (01:02:02):
The other one was Source Code.
Have you seen that movie?
I might have.

Wilson (01:02:08):
Oh, this is a Jake Gyllenhaal.
I kind of think I did, but Imight be confusing it with.
I feel like either BradleyCooper or Justin Timberlake was
in a movie with something aboutcodes on your arm, Wait what.
I think it's called Limitless.

Captain (01:02:29):
Oh, okay, I think Brad Pitt.

Wilson (01:02:32):
No, nope, it was Bradley Cooper, it looks like.

Captain (01:02:37):
Source code says Jake Gyllenhaal is an army officer
who's sent into an eight-minutevirtual recreation of a
real-life train explosion andtasked with identifying the
terrorist.
You know that sounds.

Wilson (01:02:51):
I feel like I've seen this, because that sounds really
familiar I'm looking at a clipof the trailer and I definitely
have not seen this um, but nowI'm kind of intrigued.
Let me see how this is.

Captain (01:03:03):
Either I've seen that movie or maybe really similar oh
, the movie did pretty well outof the list.
That's so funny.
Um, I you know this was a goodmovie, but it was, yeah, the
cusping around, redrum.
I was like I probably shouldn'tshouldn't have kept this on the
line that's fine.

Wilson (01:03:24):
Everyone had a good time .
Um, all right, I think that wasit for the hot goss.
Did you have any others that Imissed that you wanted to share?

Captain (01:03:32):
oh, um, sorry, I'm putting this on my watch list,
um, I don't think so um yeah, Idon't think so, cause the other
ones are kinda stupid yeah, Imean have you ever read the
scarlet letter.
Apparently, prynn is acharacter are kind of stupid.

Wilson (01:03:54):
Yeah, I mean, have you ever read the Scarlet Letter?
Apparently, prynne is acharacter I read it in high
school Hester Prynne.

Captain (01:03:59):
Oh, hester, wow, hester is quite a name.
Yeah, no, that's basically it.
Yeah, what about your Rag?
I actually wrote it down thistime.
Oh, I wrote it.
Yeah, what about your rag?

Wilson (01:04:10):
I actually wrote it down this time.

Captain (01:04:12):
Oh, I wrote it down too .
It better not be mine.

Wilson (01:04:17):
I don't know, it probably isn't.
I just thought it wasinteresting that, like Liam
Neeson got full-on blast in theface with pepper spray and he
just like wasn't, he like wipedhis eyes once and he was fine.

Captain (01:04:28):
Yeah, that was crazy.
That was crazy from somebodythat has been pepper sprayed.

Wilson (01:04:32):
That was crazy oh, that's right, you were yeah, and
it is not a you even gotsecondhand pepper sprayed and it
like burned your eyes out itburned my eyes out.

Captain (01:04:43):
It burned the back of my legs out.
Um, it's not fun.

Wilson (01:04:46):
I like burned your legs yeah, because I went.

Captain (01:04:49):
I got in the shower after because I was just like I
have to get this off my skin andit all, the oil all dripped
down to my legs and then like itwas really hard to sleep that
night because my calves werelike on fire, because all the
oil like dripped down them wow,yeah, that sucks yeah, yep.
Um, yeah, it's a razor glassthat sucks.
Yeah, yep, what was?

Wilson (01:05:09):
your wrist glass.

Captain (01:05:11):
Oh, mine was the little line you said earlier where
we're watching this crazy fightwith a guitar and he's like wham
, wham, he's hitting this guyand he I don't know.
It's a really chaotic, campyfight.
And then he yeets him out thewindow and when he gets back in
the car with everybody else hegoes hey, mike, what happened to
the guy with the guitar?
Back on the in the car witheverybody else, he goes hey,
mike, what happened to the guywith the guitar?

(01:05:31):
And he just says he got off.
And the line, the line justmade me laugh because liam
neeson is like over.
At this point he's like fuckeverything, I'm done with this.
This is all ridiculous, like I.
Like he's just over.
Like the, the l after l, likeso it's just funny.
He's like at the beginning ofthe movie he's like not trying
to kill anybody.
Right the fact that he had tokill somebody.
He's just like you know.

Wilson (01:05:51):
Oh yeah.
So I mean I'm glad he was inthis movie, but I'm also kind of
surprised they put him like.
This is a super physical roleand this character looks like he
is aging.
He looks like an old man by theend of the film and he is out
here getting stabbed andthrowing people out windows.

Captain (01:06:14):
They're like shivving him.
The stabbing scenes, honestly,were kind of rough to watch.
I was turning my face away.
But, yeah, I mean Liam Neeson'salways done roles like that.
Did you see the Naked Gun?

Wilson (01:06:30):
I did.
Yeah, what did you think it wasgood?
It was good.
Yeah, I think I liked theoriginal more, but that's not
yeah whatever, but Same.
Yeah, it was good.

Captain (01:06:38):
But yeah, that's the first time I've seen him do a
role.
That was like super, supercomedy.
That whole montage, when theywere at the cabin with the
snowman.
Oh my god, my favorite thingfor the entire movie.
Yeah, that was pretty good umyeah, no, it's a good movie, but
yeah, I think I like theoriginal better.

(01:06:59):
Um, oh, fun fact, just talkingabout naked gun, really quick.
Um, I was looking up.
Um, what's that guy's name,jonathan banks, that plays mike
ermantrout?
Yeah um and he was in airplanelike one of those other, like
funny movies from the 70s orsomething.
Yeah, and I know I've seenairplane, but I don't remember
his role in there and I just waslike oh, that's weird, like I

(01:07:21):
only know him as a hitman.
So um, I just looked it up and Iremember that character sort of
, but I would not, I mean Inever would have I mean, I think
he probably has hair in thatmovie he does, he does, but he
also looks considerably youngerum, yeah, uh, yeah, I I think,

(01:07:41):
at the end of the day, if you'relooking for a thriller, this is
a good thriller I wouldrecommend.
Um, just you know, don't belooking for a great ending.

Wilson (01:07:52):
Yeah, it was fine, the ending was okay.

Captain (01:07:56):
Yeah.

Wilson (01:07:56):
But yeah, Yep, yep, yep.

Captain (01:07:59):
Next week.
Oh, we're doing a gem.
It's called Growth from 2010.
It was not our first choice,because the movie I wanted to
watch with Adrian Brody somehowis not streamable, which is very
annoying, but we did this oneinstead.

Wilson (01:08:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's something.
I don't think it'll be a verylong episode.

Captain (01:08:23):
No, there's, it's something.
Okay, what do you?
You got any advice for me.

Wilson (01:08:30):
Do I have any advice for you?

Captain (01:08:33):
You know there is some Work from home.
Okay, that's good Work fromhome.