The Glass House

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In this week's episode, we unpack the 2001 thriller "The Glass House," where appearances are as transparent as the architecture, but motives remain dangerously opaque.

Join us as we follow the journey of Ruby Baker (Leelee Sobieski), a teenager who loses her parents in a suspicious car accident only to find herself and her younger brother trapped in a nightmarish guardianship arrangement with the Glass couple, played by Stellan Skarsgård and Diane Lane. What begins as a seemingly fortunate placement in a luxurious Malibu mansion quickly spirals into a deadly game of cat and mouse when Ruby discovers her guardians may be after her $4 million trust fund.

Episode Transcript

Captain (00:16):
we're here, looks good it does look good looks that
good, looks so good that it'slike damn, that looks good damn
she looks fine all the wigglesyeah, all the wiggles um, okay,
how's it going?

Wilson (00:37):
it's going.
It's going pretty well.
How are you doing?

Captain (00:40):
we're doing good.
We're doing great.
I do have my florida salts.
I'm back on my mango dragonfruit nice okay these are fun
cans.
I heard um some people don'tlike the kiwi or peach or
something, but I could see kiwibeing kind of strong strong um.

(01:02):
I like the mango, always amango fan.
Okay, do you have?
You have a glass?

Wilson (01:08):
I do have a.
I do have a glass.
What I really wanted was a surfside, and then I tried some
brand called like smooth, Idon't know.

Captain (01:18):
Side surf.

Wilson (01:20):
No, it's like it's not.
It's like non-carbonated,lightly flavored alcohol water.
It's not good.
Oh, that's terrible, it's likeflat LaCroix with alcohol.

Captain (01:36):
Oh, my God.

Wilson (01:37):
So I didn't finish it, and now I'm drinking a Kona.

Captain (01:39):
How expensive were those?

Wilson (01:43):
It was a six-pack that Finnn bought, and he does not
like them either oh lord, you'regonna have to go to a party and
give them away yeah that's whatI do.

Captain (01:53):
Said who wants one?
Somebody will drink them yeah,if I'm out of like a t-shirt,
cannon or something a soda.

Wilson (02:01):
Well, I guess, if it's not carbonated, it'll be fine
yeah, they're all besides,besides, if it hits someone,
that's a different story.

Captain (02:07):
But well, that's not your problem yeah, that's true
okay, I like that you're notname dropping um.
Okay.
Well then, what is it?
You didn't say what you said.
It wasn't a side surf oh, it'sa kona oh, it's a now.

Wilson (02:23):
I'm, now, I'm drinking kona, the, the name of the
alcohol I I don't, I forget it'slike smooth or swishy, or I
forget what it's called I don'tlike either one of those names
I'm definitely messing it upswishy smooth is like better
than separated.

Captain (02:40):
Um the sorry.
I'm just thinking about thedonut that you have.
Is it usable for like a thinglike push pins or oh, um.

Wilson (02:51):
So we're talking about, uh, a crocheted donut that Finn
made me.
Um, I, I guess you could putpush pins in it, but I think
they might fall out kind ofeasily.

Captain (03:02):
If you grew your hair really long, you could use it as
a bun.
Oh, just put it back here.

Wilson (03:08):
You, could, you probably ?

Captain (03:10):
could.

Wilson (03:12):
I would need thick hair, though, so it doesn't just
swivel.

Captain (03:16):
We've seen it.
We've seen centaur.

Wilson (03:21):
It's possible.

Captain (03:28):
Okay, I did want to talk to you about one thing, and
this is just random, but okay,I got this ad on I think it was
facebook, maybe it's instagramabout um, a movie on disney plus
called flaming hot okay haveyou ever heard of that movie?
no, I haven't so it's about thisguy that claims that who worked
at frito-lay.
He claims that he um made theflaming hot flavor of cheetos,

(03:53):
but he never got credit for itand he started in the company as
a janitor when this happened.
And then he like worked his hisway all the way up to like
executive, something of thecompany and after he worked his
way up to the executive.
Then he was said by the way, Imade flaming hot and I never got
credit for it.
Anyway, I didn't watch thatmovie okay but it is on my list

(04:17):
to watch.
But anyway, I read about themovie after I got that weird ad
that was like it was something,something like like I don't know
you see flaming hot and like Idon't know, it just was a weird
ad for it.
But, um, apparently it's likepart of a genre called like
biographical comedies.
And then I'm in this like weirdkick of watching biographical

(04:38):
comedies but um, the theyinclude things like like the
most like.
They include things like likethe most famous one is like Wolf
of Wall Street, right whereit's kind of like it is
biographical movie but likethere's a lot of comedic relief
in it.
So I don't know something aboutthat like was really hitting

(04:59):
and I was like, oh, I reallywant to watch some of these,
like they sound good.
So I watched Moneyball and Iwatched D money ball and I
watched dumb money and I watchedblackberry.
Um, have you?

Wilson (05:09):
ever seen blackberry good blackberry was really good
okay, I haven't seen it.
I think I've seen money ball.

Captain (05:17):
I have money I think money ball was like um, wasn't
it like nominated for bestpicture, or something like that.

Wilson (05:23):
It got something, I think.

Captain (05:25):
And.

Wilson (05:25):
Dumb Money is the GameStop one right.

Captain (05:28):
Yeah, that one was also pretty good actually.
Yeah, moneyball, I don't careabout baseball, but that was
actually pretty good.
I didn't like it as much as Ithought I was going to, because
I don't like the ending.
Okay, you said you have seenthat.

Wilson (05:46):
I think, I think I have, I don't like.

Captain (05:49):
I don't like the team doesn't actually like.
The team really gets gets far,but they never win.

Wilson (05:54):
I was like well, that's not.
I don't remember anything thathappens in that movie.

Captain (06:00):
Brad Pitt like algorithms his way into like
making a really good baseballteam with stats on a computer,
versus the way they used to makebaseball teams, which is pay a
bunch of people a bunch of moneyand everything about their life
matters like how they look,what their family's like, who
they're dating, versus like no,what are their stats on the

(06:22):
paper and we don't care abouthow horrible their outside life
is.
And brad pitt with like umjonah hill's character, um,
basically put like a really goodteam together.
That was like what?
Like a tenth of the costbecause they were picking up
these players that like weredeemed like not usable.
Um and the team did really well, but like they never win, I was

(06:45):
like, okay, well, the onlything that matters at the end of
the day is whether you have awin on your record or not so
yeah, because I feel like thatjust shows it didn't work like
they win games and they get theydo really well but they don't
win.
Like what is it?
I guess the world series.
Or like they don't get to theworld series and I'm like, okay,
well, that's not.
Or like they don't get to theworld series and I'm like okay,

(07:09):
well, that's not not like.
That doesn't make me feelfulfilled.
Yeah, um, but yeah, blackberry,it was definitely the best one
in my opinion.
Um, dumb money was good, though.
Um, I remember watching allthat gamestop stuff when it was
happening, but like very, veryperipherally, like I wasn't
involved.
I don't know if you were at alllike buying stocks or anything

(07:31):
uh, no, no apparently, uh, theguy that started all of that.
So like him and like some uhhedge funds uh, and like his

(07:51):
place of employment, I don'tknow a bunch of people were like
subpoenaed because like it gotcrazy, like the stock market
went ape shit, um, so like theyhad to go to court and
everything after the craziness.
But at one point he was up likeI think I think it was like 30
million dollars or somethinginsane in the I remember being a
big thing in the news I didn'tfollow it super closely, but

(08:11):
yeah, and eventually like itbusted right, like he sold and
then everybody else was sellingand like a lot of people made
out well, but I mean, obviouslythere had to be people that
didn't.
They went like negative.
But you know, the thing thatdoes make me feel good is like
they did take out a hedge fundguy.
That was like trying to tankthe stock and it always feels
good to like see the little guywin like that hedge fund guy

(08:31):
lost seven billion dollars, solike he had to leave the like.
Apparently he started like asmall business managing like
personal people's accounts, buthe's not a hedge fund guy
anymore that has billions ofdollars to like.
Change how the market is in theworld yeah, that's, that's the

(08:52):
win.
That's, yeah, like that's thewin, like that's what it's, like
it feels good to see.
So, yeah, um, the guy that didthat gamestop thing, though, he
now has stock in chewy and I waslike, oh wow, I love chewy,
like I would like to get a stockin chewy, actually, like
they're, they've been.
I don't know if you ever buyanything for chewy sometimes
yeah but they they've actuallybeen like I don't know.

(09:15):
They reached out to people likeI gave her a bad review of
something because I gave it tomy guinea pigs and I I didn't
like the way that it.
I basically they could hurtthemselves on it.
And then, like chui reached outto me and they gave me a refund
.
And then they said, like youknow, you're like we're so sorry
that's happened to you, andlike is there anything we can do
?
And apparently one of myco-workers, like she, had to

(09:38):
tell chui to stop sending herlike subscription for one of her
pots when it passed away.
And then they sent, sent her acondolence gift box, yeah, and I
was like, oh wow, I actuallyreally like Chewy.

Wilson (09:50):
They do have really good customer service.

Captain (09:52):
They do and that matters a lot.
So anyway, he has stock inChewy now and it's a thing that
people say to watch.
And then there was one otherone I watched.
That wasn wasn't that great,but it had brian cranston in it,
um, but like the script wasjust kind of weird and clunky,

(10:13):
but it's about the guy that umfound a lot a loophole in the
lottery in like michigan, I wantto say um, and he basically
like wins a bunch of money andthen basically just like uses it
to revive his little town oh, Ihaven't heard about that one
it's like very home, like feelgood, it's um, what's it called?

(10:37):
jerry and marge go large, Ithink.

Wilson (10:41):
But it sounds like a kid's movie like the script is
clunky.

Captain (10:44):
I don't know who wrote it, but I was like, yeah, it's
very um, okay the thing.
Okay, flaming hot, get this.
The director is eva longoria.
I'm like what is this movie?
What is this movie?

Wilson (11:03):
I think you have to watch it I think I have to watch
it.

Captain (11:05):
I mean it's on my watch list on letterboxd now have you
seen um the weird al movie isit like he's been in a couple
movies?

Wilson (11:17):
well, like it's, uh, like a, it's like a bio.

Captain (11:19):
It's about him.

Wilson (11:21):
Oh no, yeah, um it stars daniel radcliffe as weird al um
, but it's so.
It is a biopic about weird al,but it's um uh.
They take some creative um uhchoices.

Captain (11:39):
This is 2022, oh yeah yeah, it's like a.

Wilson (11:45):
Yeah, it kind of gets wild.
Um, of course it's not, it'snot real, but I don't know you
like?

Captain (11:52):
you've seen it yeah, yeah, it was interesting it's
not on your letterbox it waspre-letterbox, I think yeah
there are a bunch of thesemovies that are like comedy,
biographicals I still want tosee.
Yeah, what is it, bernie withJack Black?

(12:18):
I never saw that movie.

Wilson (12:19):
Never heard of it.

Captain (12:21):
He plays like a mortician or something and then
like somebody in the town getsmurdered and they're like they
think it's him.

Wilson (12:27):
So these are like based off of real people, real events.
Yep.
Just kind of Okay.

Captain (12:32):
But like kind of kooky Okay.

Wilson (12:36):
Well then, watch the Weird Al one, okay.

Captain (12:40):
Well, yeah, but these are but a biopic's different.
Like is it, is it like, but abiopic's different?
Is it like a musical biopic?

Wilson (12:47):
No.

Captain (12:48):
Oh, okay.

Wilson (12:50):
I think there are scenes where like oh, this is when he
came out with this song and youhave a scene of him creating it,
but it's not a musical.

Captain (13:02):
Okay, okay, yeah.
And then I want to see.
Okay, this one is like.
I've been thinking about itever since I read the
description, but it's calledConfessions of a Dangerous Mind
and a television host that doessome TV I can't remember what TV
show he does but he says thathe's a television host, but he's

(13:26):
a CIA assassin.
He says that he's a televisionhost, um and, but he's a cia
assassin.
I know he's a producer, buthe's a cia assassin at night.
He tells, he confesses that thecia recruited him and he's
killed like 30 people or so.
Damn, and I think the idea isthat, like it's what he's saying
, but people don't reallybelieve him.

(13:46):
Anyway, I don't know anythingabout it, but ever since I read
the plot I was like I want towatch that.

Wilson (13:51):
Okay.

Captain (13:52):
But yeah, there's a bunch of these and I would
recommend.
So far they've been decent orbetter than decent.
I would recommend.

Wilson (14:02):
Okay, maybe I'll check.
I should at least watch some ofthose.
Blackberry was really good Iwould recommend.
Okay, maybe.

Captain (14:05):
I'll check.
I should at least watch some ofthose.
Blackberry was really good.
I would recommend that.
And I forgot how much the hypethat Blackberry had.

Wilson (14:11):
Oh my gosh.

Captain (14:12):
My grandfather, I think , had like a Palm Pilot and that
comes up in the movie, butApple coming through and like
Did you ever have a Blackberry?

Wilson (14:21):
Because I know you had a Blueberry, I had a.

Captain (14:22):
Blueberry.
I don't think I ever had aBlackBerry.
No, I had the slidey one, notthe one that slides and flips,
but a regular slidey one.

Wilson (14:31):
Okay, yeah.

Captain (14:33):
I can't remember what that's called.
And then, yeah, and then I hadthe BlueBerry, and then I think
I got an iPhone after that.

Wilson (14:40):
Okay, I never had a Blackberry, I always wanted one.
But then by the time an iPhonecame out, I was like, well, I
want the iPhone.

Captain (14:47):
I had a flip phone for a little and when I had the flip
phone, people were really intothe razors.
Yeah, but I didn't have a razor, I didn't actually really like
them.
Oh, I mean, I don't know, theydidn't look, I don't know, I was
just kind of like I have one inmy drawer.

Wilson (15:02):
I don't know, I was just kind of like I have one in my
drawer, it's like right here, Ican grab it.

Captain (15:07):
They recycle those.

Wilson (15:10):
Yeah, but I like to keep things.

Captain (15:13):
You're nasty.
What that's nasty?
Wait, you're going to keeptransporting that to every place
you move.

Wilson (15:21):
Yeah, I mean it's not like it takes up a bunch of
space.

Captain (15:25):
Yeah, but it's just like you're just transporting
trash all over the world.

Wilson (15:29):
Are you calling this?

Captain (15:30):
yes, yes, that is.
I cannot believe it's so handythat you can just pull it out
and throw it on camera.
Like it should not be thathandy I have a.

Wilson (15:40):
I have a drawer right here of my old phones.

Captain (15:42):
There's like five old cell phones in here I think I
have a few old cell phones thatare like literally in a box that
you'd have to like move thingsto get to.

Wilson (15:51):
Well.

Captain (15:52):
And I should recycle them, like I've recycled other
phones in the past.
But they do those, like youknow, fire department recycling
things.
Anyway, it's not important.
All right, are you ready?
Where are we?

Wilson (16:06):
at um.
Oh, I did have a one um quickoh, that's right, yes, did um so
I recently, since last time wetalked, I watched the new fear
street movie, prom queen, promnight whatever the reviews for
that movie are so bad it is notlike the other ones.
This was garbage.

Captain (16:27):
It's a different director I saw.

Wilson (16:29):
Yeah, no, it was not good.
It had a good cast, the peoplein it were good.

Captain (16:37):
Like who.

Wilson (16:41):
I can't remember her name, but she played the main
woman in Alien Covenant,something Waterston, I think.

Captain (16:50):
Is she a blonde girl?

Wilson (16:52):
No.

Captain (16:53):
Oh, I'm thinking of somebody else then.

Wilson (16:55):
No, she has brown hair, and I forget who else.

Captain (17:00):
Katherine Waterston.

Wilson (17:02):
Yeah, that's her.

Captain (17:05):
I mean it's not like a huge name, but like yeah, if I
see this lady walking down thestreet, if she handed me
something, if she took my orderat a restaurant, I would not
recognize her.

Wilson (17:14):
Oh, I would absolutely.

Captain (17:17):
She looks kind of like that Delaney girl that does
those TikTok skits of.

Wilson (17:23):
Delaney.

Captain (17:24):
Yeah, she does those TikToks of really awkward acting
or really overplayed genres ofmovies.

Wilson (17:34):
I don't know if I'm on that side of TikTok.

Captain (17:37):
Now she's dating BJ.

Wilson (17:40):
Novak yeah, from the Office.

Captain (17:42):
Yeah.
Yeah, and it became a big storythat they're like dating.

Wilson (17:47):
Oh my gosh, let me look her up.

Captain (17:49):
Delaney Rowe, I think is her name.
Yeah, if you type yeah, theylook in my head.
They look similar those twowomen.

Wilson (18:00):
Let's see.

Captain (18:03):
I can't believe.
I see what you're saying.
Delaney rowe has never comeacross your tiktok she might
have.

Wilson (18:10):
I need to see her like in movement yeah in a frame on
my phone and whatever shenormally does.
Then I'd be like, oh yes, Iknow her um, but she looks too
young for bj novak yeah, shedoes, but I believe they are
similar in age actually she's 30and he is 45 oh, just kidding,

(18:32):
I'm just kidding, I did not knowthat I thought they were
similar than that, more similarthan that yikes.

Captain (18:38):
I mean 15 years is it's like on the cusp of being like
yeah, it also depends when theystarted dating oh, I'm pretty
sure I mean it was announcedmore recently like within the
last few months.

Wilson (18:53):
But that's more okay if she was like 20 and he was like
30, yeah anyway, so don'trecommend, is what you're saying
.

Captain (19:08):
Don't recommend that movie no, don't watch it do not
watch is that director doneother things or was he just like
given this project to like fuckaround, or I didn't, I didn't
look.
That's a good question you'relike it's so bad I don't even
want to talk, I don't even wantto like use any brain power it's
like not.

Wilson (19:29):
It's now no longer worth any more of my time gotcha.

Captain (19:40):
Okay, good to know.
Um, all right, are you ready towelcomed 100 and 71st episode
of the red room podcast, wherewe review horror movies while
enjoying a dope beverage or two,and I'm captain and I'm wilson
and this week we're reviewingthe 2001 american thriller, the

(20:01):
glass house, and we should givea caveat that the movie we were
trying to do is not streamable,so that's why we have switched
to the glass house.
I was a little sad.
I don't know if you read thesynopsis for the whole but like
kiera knightley is in it, so Ijust assumed it'd be streamable
yeah um, and detective josephquinn is in it and I was like

(20:25):
I'd love to see him in somethingyeah um, and thora birch is in
it, remember, because we werelike, oh, thora birch again,
like that was oh, yeah, yeah, Iremember talking about that but
literally nowhere online,literally nowhere so yeah, that
kind of sucks and this, thesynopsis of the movie, sounded
kind of good.
It was like a girl that saidthat she was trapped in a bunker

(20:50):
with other people and they alldied but she got out and it
wasn't her fault.
But then a psychoanalyst istalking to her through the movie
and has to decide whether she'stelling the truth or not.
I was like, okay, I'd watchthat.
Fuck, I'm trying.
Okay, I'd watch that Fuck.

Wilson (21:07):
I'm trying to look up this movie.
Oh okay, there it is 2008.

Captain (21:11):
Oh, no 2001.

Wilson (21:14):
Yeah, it says you can buy it on Amazon.
No, you can't.

Captain (21:18):
No, you can't.
I looked all over.
It's not on there.
The other hole is on there.
You can buy it for 30 on amazonI.
I could not find that it's a.

Wilson (21:31):
It's a physical copy.

Captain (21:32):
You would have to no I'm not doing that, no, um, we
already talked about.
I don't want a physical copy ofanything ever.
Um, anyway, this week we'redoing the glass house.
So this was directed by danielsack on sackheim.
Um, he's mostly known fordirecting a bunch of, like uh,

(21:52):
famous tv shows, so the x-files,law and order house, walking
dead.
He did some ozark episodes, hedid some game of thrones
episodes, um, but I didn'treally see a lot of movie
directing there was like one ortwo, but they were like things
I've never heard of um okay, sohe's more of a tv guy I'm pretty

(22:14):
sure he's more of a you know 45, 50 minute setup closing um.
The writer of this movie isWesley Strick, who's mostly
known for arachnophobia in 1990.
I've heard of that movie butI've never seen it.
I don't like spiders so I feellike I wouldn't like it.

Wilson (22:35):
I think I saw it, but I feel like it'd be a good podcast
movie.

Captain (22:38):
Yeah, arachnophobia.
I'm just curious what theletterbox is um 3.2.
I feel like this actually wouldbe a really good podcast see,
there we go um, okay, I'm addingit to the watch list.
Um, but yeah, he also did umman in the high castle, which is

(23:01):
like a newer show.
He also did nightmare on el ElmStreet from 2010,.
Like one of the remakes.
Have you ever watched man inthe High Castle?
It's one of those shows, likethat space show, where it's like
an alternate reality.

Wilson (23:17):
Oh no, I haven't seen it .

Captain (23:18):
Yeah, I haven't seen it either, but honestly it sounded
kind of good.
I was like I kind of want towatch it.

Wilson (23:23):
I think I've only heard good things about it.
Honestly, it sounded kind ofgood.
I was like I kind of want towatch it.

Captain (23:27):
I think I've only heard good things about it.
There's too much stuff to watch.
I know we're casually watchingor not casually, but we're like
finishing up that six partseries Cassandra on Netflix
right now.

Wilson (23:36):
That came out a while ago.

Captain (23:38):
Everybody's Netflix is so different.
Every time I like log intosomebody else's like I turn
their TV on, I'm always like I Ilike log into somebody else's
like, I turn their TV on.

Wilson (23:52):
I'm always like I've never seen these things
advertised to me ever and it'slike the things on their main
page.

Captain (23:55):
I don't really even open Netflix much anymore.
I don't know.
There's some good things onthere.
Detective department Q morerecently.
I would recommend that it wasgood anyway, um, okay, so I
don't know if you have the listup, but we're gonna need it in a
second.
But the main character of thismovie is lele.
So by sabowski, sabisky, sobesky, I don't know.

Wilson (24:19):
I would say I would say so bs key, but Sobieski.

Captain (24:23):
She plays Ruby Baker and she's known for a lot of
teen movies in the 90s, likeDeep Impact and Never Been
Kissed.
But she was the main girl inJoyride, which we did, and if
we're squelching that movie weneed the list.

Wilson (24:39):
Well, that's where squelching started.
Oh my God Full circle Whoa.

Captain (24:46):
Yes, yes, because that was like one of the potential
names for the movie yeah, yeah,I think so such a weird.
I don't even know whoa, Ididn't even think about that.
Yeah, whoa.
Well, anyway, we're squelchingjoyride.
I want to say it was like one,it was like not that long ago.

Wilson (25:06):
I want to say like one, 52 okay, I can't guess because I
started to type it in and itlike auto searched, so I know
what number it is okay.

Captain (25:18):
What is it?
It was 128 oh my gosh, I waspretty far off, pretty far off,
pretty far off.
Okay, well, she's Joy Ryden.
She's Squilchen.
Dr Aaron Glass is played byDiane Lane.
This is her adoptive mom inthis movie.

(25:41):
She's mostly known for a moviecalled Unfaithful that like got
a bunch of noms in 2002.
Um, but we mostly know her fromthe voice of riley's mom in
inside out.

Wilson (25:52):
please tell me you've seen inside out I have seen
inside out, and inside out toookay, um, she also plays martha
kent in like any dc movie thathas superman, like not all the
Superman movies.

Captain (26:05):
Okay, any movie that has her character, though she's
played A lot of the more recentones.
It says she was Martha Kent intwo or three movies.

Wilson (26:13):
Okay, I think that's the one with Henry Cavill.

Captain (26:18):
Oh wait, there's a new one coming out that people are
really excited about.

Wilson (26:22):
Yeah, I think that one should be really good.

Captain (26:24):
Yeah, we actually bought tickets ahead of time oh
yeah, I mean, I like the cast alot um, okay, and then probably
the biggest name in this movie,terry glass sorry, is played by
stalin, stalin scott stalinstalin scott scott.
We love a scott scott sure doum.

(26:46):
So he, you know, is known forsome many roles, but he's plays,
uh, father lancaster mirren inthe exorcist series.
He also plays bootstrap billturner in the parts of the
caribbean which I was like, okay, that's super random, that I
was gonna do kira knightley andI like deleted all of her stuff
except I just moved the powersof the caribbean up a little, um

(27:10):
.
And then he also plays ericselvig in like the thor and
shield series.
He's like an astrophysicistthat helps them.
Um, but we probably mostly knowhim for playing the baron in
the dune movies and he plays agreat evil dude he does he's
also in that andor show.
I don't know if you watched thatI actually just watched all of

(27:31):
it oh, so you recognize him fromthere too.

Wilson (27:33):
Yeah, he's really good in that show is he evil?
Um no, he plays a good like achaotic good guy um but I can't
imagine him being good it's likea the darks, just like.
Oh okay, he does like thenecessary evils to make the good
side win.

(27:53):
So in a way he still does likekind of bad things, but it's for
a good purpose.
Um, but whenever he talks inthat show, all I hear is the
baron's voice, because he's'susing that same deep gravelly.

Captain (28:08):
Is that really?
He's not really doing the Baronvoice, right?
Because that's, I think he is.

Wilson (28:14):
I mean they might.
I guess they could modify it alittle bit, but I think he can
do that voice.

Captain (28:19):
What.

Wilson (28:20):
I mean, maybe I'm misremembering, but it feels.

Captain (28:23):
In my head it was like an inhuman low, but I guess
people do that like throatsinging.

Wilson (28:31):
I mean Bill did that like weird voice from Nosferatu.

Captain (28:37):
Bill Skoskan.

Wilson (28:38):
Did you watch Nosferatu?

Captain (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, I just, I don't know.
Anytime I think of Skoskan, Ialways think of the vampire show
we watched.

Wilson (28:48):
Oh, I've been meaning to rewatch that.
What is that?

Captain (28:52):
Truebland.

Wilson (28:53):
Nope.

Captain (28:54):
No, not Truebland.

Wilson (28:56):
I mean that is a vampire show, Okay, oh, sorry, there is
a Skarsgård in that vampireshow, yeah, but I was thinking
of bill in.
Um, oh, dairy, no damn it waslike a netflix show from like
2013.

Captain (29:13):
What?
What is happening?
There's too many scots gods, Iwill tell you in one second.

Wilson (29:18):
I think he's a vampire in that show.
I could be misremembering.
Um, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, I'm getting there,I'm getting there what's just
the skarsgård in the true bloodwhat?
Who sorry what?

Captain (29:29):
who's the skarsgård in true blood?
Alexander alexander skarsgård,but you're talking about bill oh
, I'm talking about um hemlockgrove oh, not dairy, maybe that
isn't vampires but he does play.
He does play a creepy characteroh, maybe it is vampires
actually, because I think I didwatch that I think there's

(29:50):
definitely a werewolf, oh, maybethat's what it is.
Who knows yeah?
anyway, you gotta love a scotchgun yeah, um, all right, we have
, uh, oh, the trust lawyer,whatever.
Um, bruce derm derm plays alvin.

(30:12):
Oh gosh, bit glider in this.
He's like a lawyer anyway.
Um, is he that?
Is he that guy's, is he thatwoman's dad?
Yeah, I just looked, it islaura jern's dad so he plays
skeet in palm royale, which Inever watched, but you said you
watched that palm royale show Idid.
Yeah, I don't remember hischaracter, character at all he's

(30:34):
old in this, so I'm kind ofreally surprised he's still
acting yeah, five years later Ijust looked he's 89 right now
he's still kicking whoa.
Um, he was really really big inthe 70s.
He was like in the great gatsbyand posse and the driver and a
bunch of movies that I'm likevaguely heard of maybe, um, but
he was really big then, okay, uh, then this is the biological

(31:00):
mom.
So kathy baker as nancy ryan um, she is in that.
Take shelter with michaelshannon, which I reference a lot
, because michael shannon haslike a full freak out in the
movie.
That is like I don't knowsomething about it.
It's like I reference it allthe time, but it's like he
screams there's a storm coming,it's come up on the podcast okay

(31:22):
, I believe you um.
It's a good movie, but she'sknown for other shows like the
Ranch.
More recently, let's see RhettBaker played by Trevor Morgan.
Every time I read Trevor Morgan, I want to say Tracy Morgan.

Wilson (31:41):
Yeah, I see that.

Captain (31:42):
But he's the other kid in this movie and he was the
nemesis of the main kid in thesixth sense, which we watched
for the podcast.
But that was early, early, Ithink that I want to say that
was like in the first hundred.

Wilson (31:59):
Oh, I feel like it almost had to be.
I thought that kid lookedfamiliar.

Captain (32:03):
I want to say it was like I don't know, 42 or
something.

Wilson (32:08):
It was 27.

Captain (32:17):
Still like 20 off, okay , um, and then he was also in
Jurassic Park 3.
Um, who the?
Oh, that's right.
I was like, who is this?
Um?
Jack Avery is played by ChrisNoth, who is known for mostly
for being Mike Logan in LawOrder.
He was in that show for likesix years, so that's where I
recognize him from.
But he was on Sex and the Cityand the Good Wife, but he has

(32:37):
been Me Too'd.
He's gotten like I don't knowthree or four allegations and he
got dropped for a bunch ofthings.
I don't know if you looked himup.

Wilson (32:49):
I was just skimming to see what he oh yeah, he's, he's
no good, he's no good no good,he's spoiled rotten.

Captain (32:58):
Um, okay, and then, who the fuck is david baker?
Is that the dad?
Is that the biological dad?

Wilson (33:05):
um, it must be michael o'keefe.

Captain (33:08):
Oh wow, speaking of o'keefe, did you watch the karen
reed trial or like follow up onit at all?

Wilson (33:13):
what are you talking about?
The karen reed trial oh, okay,I did hear.
I don't know any of the factsabout it, but I did hear things
happen whoa dude, you have gotto get on the trial on the karen
.

Captain (33:27):
Reedono keeps the guy that died.
That's why I was okay um.
There's a um.
What is it?
hbo like series where it goesover the first case and then
obviously they're gonna do aseason two where it goes through
the second case.
But, um, it's really good, youshould watch it.
Um, okay, and then I don't knowwho's this.

(33:49):
Oh, this is the biological momshe was.
I recognize her face fromsomewhere, I don't know where
she's in a bunch of stuff.
She's mostly known forsleepless in seattle.
The the biological mom withthat really 90s haircut oh um
where do I recognize her from?

Wilson (34:04):
isn't that?
Um, isn't that?
Uh tom h?
Yes, that's his wife.

Captain (34:10):
That's his real life wife.

Wilson (34:13):
Yeah, Rita Wilson.

Captain (34:17):
Her name is Margarita.

Wilson (34:19):
I was just seeing that.

Captain (34:21):
Ibrahimov I don't know if I'm saying that right, I
don't know, okay, but that'slike a lot of cast, but mainly
four people.

Wilson (34:31):
five people are important, pretty much um oh
well, you didn't mention, uh,january jones, which we did not
see she's girl in this movie.

Captain (34:43):
Supposedly she's gotta be just some random bystander in
the school somewhere.

Wilson (34:55):
I just Googled it and she was, it looks like outside
at the school.
So she was probably in one ofthe friend circles that she was
nearby.

Captain (35:04):
I was looking at that circle of girls that she was
sitting with and I was like noneof these are January Jones.

Wilson (35:09):
I just put it in the chat.
Put it in the chat.
In the chat I think it's fromthat movie.
Why?

Captain (35:17):
can't I touch this.
It won't.
Let me look.

Wilson (35:24):
It won't let you look.
Oh yeah, it says that's yep,that's the movie.

Captain (35:29):
What's the movie?

Wilson (35:30):
Or that screenshot.
I confirmed that's.
It's this movie, yeah.

Captain (35:35):
That is not January Jones.

Wilson (35:37):
I mean, I'm pretty sure it is.

Captain (35:40):
She looks nothing like that.
What is with that little clipin her hair?

Wilson (35:47):
I don't know, early 2000s.

Captain (35:48):
That is not Januaryuary jones.
She does not look like that.
What's she at plastic surgery?

Wilson (35:53):
I mean, I think that I think that's like her smile and
I mean, what is she like?

Captain (36:02):
16 here?
I don't all right, fine shewould have been 22 insane, okay,
um, so let's get in here, okay.
So, um, there's this.
We start the movie out withruby, who is kind of like a

(36:22):
teenager, out partying and, likeyou know, not really listening
to her parents, whatever.
Um, she loses her parents in acar accident.
Um, she comes home from like alate night with her friends one
day and cops kind of greet herand tell her you know, something
happened to your parents andshe like faints, um, so her and

(36:44):
her brother get placed underthis guardianship of um she's 16
, her brother's 11.
They get placed under theguardianship of family, friends
and former neighbors.
I thought they were activeneighbors.
Come to find out.
No, they're neighbors that theylived next to for 10 years.
They don't live next to anymore.
Um, and uh, they're like evenhelping the kids out at the

(37:05):
funeral.
Um, we meet their uncle at thefuneral, um, just, and he's
basically like trying to supportthem, but they're like ruby's
like literally like I don't knowyou.
So, um, she's like not thatimpressed with him.
But the parents have chosenthat these longtime neighbors

(37:30):
are going to be the guardians ofthese kids.
I feel like that's a hugeresponsibility to give, not
family.

Wilson (37:38):
Yeah, but I mean they have good incentive, as we find
out.

Captain (37:41):
Yeah, but I just don't know Like the parents choosing
that I feel like is kind ofcrazy.

Wilson (37:47):
I wonder if there was anything sketchy about that.

Captain (37:50):
Probably, and beyond that, they have to move across
the country, or no, wait, no,they have to move across the
state to Malibu, because I thinkthey were, I guess, up north or
something.

Wilson (38:06):
Oh yeah, she did say something about in the valley or
something yeah, I don't knowhow that works.

Captain (38:11):
I don't know how far away.
The valley is from malibu Idon't, yeah, I don't you were in
malibu.
How far away is?
I don't think I was in malibu Ithought you went to malibu one
time we went to um it's atricksy hotel.
We.

Wilson (38:25):
Oh, it's Palm Springs.

Captain (38:27):
Oh, palm Springs, I always mix those up.

Wilson (38:32):
Similar sounding or like similar vibes, but also
completely different.

Captain (38:39):
One's in a desert and one isn't Let me see Malibu to
the Valley, it says, okay,that's not what I wanted.
It's giving me directions, butI think it'll be like around an
hour or two, I don't know.
Um, briefly, is what I'm, I sawsomething like that.
Okay, anyway, so they have tomove across the state.

(39:00):
Um, and when they do, they, oh,the people they're living with
is dr aaron glass and terryglass, and, and they're really
like on brand because they livein a glass house.

Wilson (39:13):
Wink.

Captain (39:14):
And they make glass Like I'm pretty sure that's what
their company makes.
I was like y'all gotta like hopoff for a second.

Wilson (39:22):
It's a lot of glass.

Captain (39:23):
It's a lot of glass and we didn't need this much glass.

Wilson (39:27):
His license plate has glass, like it's 24K glass or
something.
Is his license plate?

Captain (39:33):
their bedroom doors are made of glass.
I'm like can you, can we not?

Wilson (39:38):
like oh, and the one time he's even like don't swim
this late.
You can hear everything in thehouse because of the glass.
Enough with the glass enoughwith the glass.

Captain (39:50):
So, anyway, yes, they're now in malibu.
Um, when they get there, um, itis weird.
The kids are.
The kids are weird.
The house is weird.
The kids make multiple commentsabout each other's bodies,
which we were both like nasty.
What is happening here?
Yeah, like who's writing this,um, and then we also, they also

(40:14):
are sharing a bedroom, um.

Wilson (40:17):
So yeah, it's just weird and again we find out they
didn't need to be sharing abedroom yeah, I don't know
what's they just put them.

Captain (40:25):
I don't yeah I mean, yeah, I guess they just didn't
buy furniture for a two-bedroom.
Well, they did, I don't know.
But yeah, she's like changingin the hallway.
It's weird.
She's really nervous aboutbeing at this new school,
doesn't want to go Again.
Something we find out is thatshe was taken out of the school

(40:48):
she was in or the private schoolshe was going to go to, and she
got put into public school,which she was, you know, didn't
really want to deal with.
Um, yes, and then basicallyruby has an uncomfortable
interaction with terry, um,where he, like I don't know,
tricks her slash, invites herout to dinner, um, to kind of

(41:11):
like, so I don't know, I guess,bond or whatever, but um, he
basically, you know, is likesexually uncomfortable with her
or like loosely sexuallyuncomfortable with her by like
reaching around her.
Um, when it comes to theseatbelt.
It was definitely strange.
And he's also like drinking alot, Like he comes for the mom

(41:33):
with this junkie situation.
But like I'm like sir, you havean alcohol problem.

Wilson (41:37):
Yeah, they both have a substance abuse problem.

Captain (41:40):
Yes, it's bad.
But after she, you know, feelsweird about the seatbelt.
Then, yeah, he drives home likereally recklessly and drunk,
and then when she gets home shesees that the mom is like, uh,
seems like she's shooting out,basically like she's got a
needle in her arm, um, and afterall of those situations, oh,

(42:01):
and she sees them likeaggressively fighting um one
night, um, and I can't rememberif this is, if it was like she
also has that, that moment whereshe sees Terry get like beat up
by the guys at his office formoney, but she decides that she
has to go talk to the lawyer guythat originally told her that

(42:27):
these are your guardians, thatyour parents chose for you.
So he's like not there.
I guess he manages their trustor he's, but he's also like a
lawyer yeah, I think he saidthat earlier.

Wilson (42:37):
He's like uh, he is also a trust lawyer and a um
guardian chip lawyer thing well,that part I don't understand
because for like minors, I'mpretty sure like uh, I don't.

Captain (42:53):
I'm not cps, but like some government, agency like
social working place they wouldplace them somewhere not like
yeah, I mean, I don't know,unless there was some type of
like I don't know contract drawnup prior to their death, but
I'm like who would draw that up?
I don't know contract drawn upprior to their death, but I'm
like who would draw that up?
I don't know.
I mean, people do likegodparents I'm kidding, I don't

(43:15):
know, I don't know enough aboutit.
But anyway, she's like okay, Ireally don't like what's
happening here.
I'm going to go talk to thislawyer guy that told me that I
could come to him if I'm havingproblems.
So she like hitchhikes to himif I'm having problems.
So she like hitchhikes to him,basically, you know, across the

(43:36):
state and tells her that she'suncomfortable and, like you know
, I came here to get help fromyou, and so he told her that
he'll look into it.
Basically because she mentionsthe yeah, the sexual-ish
incident and the shooting andthe drugs, the sexual ish
incident and the shooting andthe drugs, um, but shortly after
that, oh, and she finds outthat she has a four million
dollar trust that she touches, Iguess, when she's 18, but I

(43:58):
guess they have access to it toothe adoptive parents um, yeah,
or at least the guy the dad wastrying to get access to it.
Um, so she gets back home andher parents basically tell her
like we heard you'reuncomfortable, and you know that
makes us really sad.
And she the mom says I wasn'tshooting up drugs, I have

(44:19):
diabetes and that was insulin.
I'm like side note girl,there's no way that was insulin
in my head.
I'm like you're like shootingit in a vein in your arm, which
is not how you do insulin, andshe's not refrigerating it.
So I'm like you're likeshooting it in a vein in your
arm, which is not how you doinsulin, and she's not
refrigerating it.
So I'm like that's not how youdo insulin and she's clearly
passed out and she's like yeah,she's like looks baked, like she
looks buzzed on the couch, um,and it's so funny.

(44:43):
In the movie she even says aline where she says we need your
trust, which is like a doubleentrandra, because she's like we
want your, your trust, as a ina human relationship, but we
like literally need your trustmoney, which is like yeah, a
little on the nose a little onthe nose, but I appreciate that
in the context of theconversation it would make sense

(45:04):
.
Um, I don't mind it, but yeah,she's like literally says you
know, we need your trust, um,yes, and then, oh, yeah, so the
housekeeper gets fired becauseshe helped ruby get to that
lawyer guy, um, by giving her aride.
So the housekeeper is fired,the or slash nanny, they're

(45:28):
going to a public school andyeah, and they're sharing a room
.
So like it doesn't really makesense.
What's going on here?
I think I don't know.
Oh, yes, there's a little bitof a building thing where Terry
tries to ruby by writing herschool paper for her, um, and

(45:51):
she even thanks him for itbecause she fell asleep on the
computer, um, but she quicklygets pulled out of school for
plagiarism because it's caughtlike it's very similarly copied
sentences from a book.

Wilson (46:03):
I don't understand his motivation for doing that I
don't like why finish her paper,but also why?

Captain (46:12):
I guess he was trying.
He was hoping that she wouldget plagiarism so that they
could send her away, because ifshe got kicked out of the state
like available school, thepublic school for their region
then he could, like, send heraway to some.
I don't know what that pamphletthat she briefly looked at was,
but it was like a sleep away,like a send-off, didn't she?

Wilson (46:34):
also call the number.
I thought she picked it up,dialed it and then hung up oh,
was that?

Captain (46:41):
I don't know.
I like briefly looked down butit was some like boarding school
but like, not a good one, likeit was called like the challenge
school or something.
Yeah, like a school for bad kidsbasically.
So I guess they were justtrying to get her hoping that
she'd get sent, you know, kickedout so that she'd get sent

(47:02):
there or they could send herthere reasonably, um, but yes,
so she's kind of oh yes, andthen she also does meet with a
social worker around the sametime who she tells everything to
.
But when she comes to the houseto do her like, you know, loose
check of the house, you knowthings are in order.

(47:24):
Ruby has her own bedroom set up.
Suddenly, you know, people lookwell cared for, there's nothing
weird in the house.
Like, the social worker findsthe insulin.
So she knows that.
So she just assumes that that'sprobably what the mom was using
, because, you know, if she hasdiabetes and she has insulin,
then that would make sense.
Um, so you know, all herworries get like just pushed

(47:48):
away, like ruby's worries.
Um, however, ruby does find inthe trash shortly, you know,
after the social worker leavesthat, um, she was supposed to
get sent to the private schooland terry pocketed the refund
tuition.
Um, and she puts that togetherwith the fact that she knows

(48:10):
Terry is in debt with the loansharks because she's seen them,
you know like throw him upagainst a wall in his office.
So she knows that they'reprobably after her for the money
because she knows that she hasa $4 million trust fund.
So this is, I think, around thetime that Ruby first tries to
escape.
So she steals his car at likefour in the morning and then

(48:32):
there's like a huge stormhappening.
She grabs her brother, um, andthey like drive off um.
The brother doesn't really wantto do this, like he's basically
being bought off by theseparents with like um nintendo 64
and whatever playstation wasout at the time I don't know
what playstation, I don't know.
He was like talking about thatand pokemon, what's the one?

(48:57):
That was, oh what did?

Wilson (48:58):
he say he says.

Captain (48:59):
He says like a specific game he does.

Wilson (49:02):
I forget what he said.
I think it was a place, I thinkit was a playstation one,
though and in like Ball.

Captain (49:09):
it's very 2001's, coded Like the language is it's there
for?

Wilson (49:13):
them, oh yeah.

Captain (49:14):
But yeah, so he doesn't really want to do this and he
even lies to the social workerwhen she's over to like make it
sound like he's a good kid andeverything's fine.
But yes, they drive off andthey basically get caught by

(49:36):
Terry, who drives them back andyells at her for being a bad kid
.
But we do find out.
Is this where the wife, terry,like slaps her?
I think right, and the wifegives her fentanyl for?

Wilson (49:47):
the first time I think so.

Captain (49:48):
Like everything starts to crumble down a little bit and
they're like, we just need toput her to sleep.
Yeah.
So he like slaps her, oh yes,and he even does say a line to
her like admitting that he justneeds one kid to survive.
You know, to keep using thetrust.

Wilson (50:04):
Yeah, it was interesting because I feel like in the car
ride right before that he wastrying to play everything off
and then when they get home it'ssuddenly like you're right and
we're going to kill you.

Captain (50:14):
Well, I think he can come to the realization.
Ruby accuses him in the car.
She does say like you killed myparents, and yeah, and he tries
to say like no, they were drunkand they killed themselves.
But she even says like youprobably messed with their car.
Oh, she finds out that theywere driving his car, not their
car, that night.
Like he loaned them a bmw orwhatever and he messed with it,

(50:37):
or she assumes that he messedwith it and that's why they
crashed.
Um, so she's like pretty surethat he killed them and the yeah
, and as soon as they get in thehouse, you know, everything
falls apart and he, yeah, heslaps her and the mom shoots her
up with something that makesher sedated.
Um, we see terry.
So, yeah, I think like almost amonth has gone by because the

(50:59):
friends make that comment aboutnot talking to her for a month.

Wilson (51:01):
So I think they've basically kept ruby in like a
half coma for like a whole monththat was such an odd scene to
include, though, because we hadnot seen her friends at this
point since the beginning of themovie, and we only see a
cutaway, I guess, to establish atimeline, and then we also
don't see them again I guessit's to establish a timeline,

(51:23):
yeah, and make it make sense,because, like I guess the first
question you'd ask is like whydidn't anyone come check on her?

Captain (51:32):
but I guess yeah it was awkward, you're not wrong, uh,
but yes, so she's like basicallyin a coma the whole time.
We find out the mom is a fulljunkie.
She's, she is a doctor and Iswear she said that she was
ordering like 30 bottles offentanyl.
I was like, girl, what ishappening?

(51:53):
How could you possibly prove toyour job that you were using
something like that and, out ofall the things, that you're a
junkie on fentanyl?
Like how, how are you alive?

Wilson (52:08):
like but this is where she understandably loses her
medical license.

Captain (52:12):
Yeah, she gets called in, she loses her medical
license, and because she losesher medical license, they can't
keep Ruby in the coma.
So, you know, terry likescreams at her for losing her
job and calls her a junkie orwhatever.
And then he says I'm going togo out in the town and find
something to keep her under um,so she leave, he leaves, he goes

(52:33):
to the city, um, and the mom,of course, is hiding a secret
fentanyl bottle that she's stillusing to shoot up, uh, and we
see a scene of ret being reallysad that his sister's like
basically like asleep forever,um, but as ruby wakes up in the
morning, uh, she, she has an armover her which she thinks is

(52:56):
her brother at first, but it'sactually her adoptive mom.
That is um dead.

Wilson (53:00):
so yeah, so like the night before her adoptive mom
was high but also watching oldvhs tapes of ruby when she was
little, so like she clearly feltbad and I think she like got in
the bed to cuddle with her.

Captain (53:15):
She felt bad and then, of course, she just died because
she overdosed oh, I didn't putthat together, but yeah, I think
you're right, she did pullthose movies out like I guess
they were pretty close when theywere younger.
But I'm confused in the so likeshe said, so like they both know
that they need the money, right, but like I'm confused by the

(53:36):
conversation that her and terryhad with like who started the
problem of the money?
Like was like she said, terrymakes reckless financial
decisions.
But he says, like where wereyou when I was making them?
And I was confused I don't.

Wilson (53:53):
I'm not saying I'm right .
My take on that sentence was umwhenever they made the decision
to like kill the parents andsteal the kids money but like
it's terry, that sounds likeit's terry exclusively.

Captain (54:08):
That's the problem with the money.

Wilson (54:11):
I think in general he's bad with the money.
I think maybe they always livedextravagantly and he more
recently did.
I don't know.
Hard to say.

Captain (54:23):
Yeah, it's a little wishy-washy, it's not super
clear.
But yeah, so the wife overdosed, she dies.
Terry comes home and he's likesuper happy that he found some
morphine pills, but as soon ashe sees that his wife's dead,
he's, you know, pretty defeatedor pretty, yeah, like he's.
He's not doing well.
Um, and then I don't, is thatwhen the lawyer comes back over?

(54:51):
Oh no, the siblings start tobreak out a little, I think
right, so like they attempt toflee but he realizes it, but
they don't know.

Wilson (55:00):
He realizes it, I think, I think, because I think, well,
I don't know, I feel like hewas going to leave and then he,
like out of the corner of hiseye, saw they were breaking out
of the basement.

Captain (55:10):
Oh, sorry, yeah, so that he throws them in the
basement, yes, and then he pullsthe car.
He pulls the car out and thenhe pulls the car back in because
, yeah, he saw them breaking outof the basement.
Is what you're saying.

Wilson (55:23):
I think, but he didn't want to let that.
He didn't want them to see that.
He saw, yes, so I think he cameup with a plan to then sabotage
the car, even though I don'tknow when he would have done
that, so maybe that was alreadythe plan yeah, I, I think I
think he had that plan, I thinkas soon as his wife's dead and
he didn't want to deal with thekids anymore.

Captain (55:45):
Yeah, so he, you know he's already been accused and
it's pretty clear that hesabotaged the parents car when
they, you know, died after theirdate night.
So he just is like well thatworked and he's just sabotages
his own car.
Ruby already stole it once,right to drive off at four in
the morning.
So he's like you know, I'lljust sabotage this one, leave
the keys in an area where shewas going to steal them from me

(56:07):
and then she'll just killherself in the car.
Um, so we assume that's whathis plan is.
But before he can do that, thatlawyer comes over, that beg
leader lawyer, and he says likeyou know, I'm getting reports
that your trust officer issuspicious and you're under
investigation because terryscreams at that trust officer is

(56:30):
suspicious and you're underinvestigation because terry
screams at that trust officer,or like shortly before this, in
the movie about trying toacquire like half a million
dollars from the trust, and he'slike, why the fuck do you need
this money?
And he finds out that theirschool which I'm assuming ruby
faxed them that information Ithink she did, because she
pulled that out of the trashyeah, she pulled it out of the
trash so the the paper that saysthat your tuition's been

(56:52):
refunded.
she must have faxed it over tothem because they already had
records of that.
So they were like why do youneed this money if you already
got your 30k back in tuition?
Um, so yes, he's now underinvestigation and the lawyer's
here to tell him that and beinglike what the fuck's going on?
I already told you about whatRuby told me in private and

(57:13):
Ruby's like, damn, what a bitch.
I thought you were here to helpme, but she overhears this
conversation.
So she's like OK, he's not ahelpful person, but it doesn't
really matter much, because theLone Shark people show up at his
house, the loan shark peopleshow up at his house and they
say, um, you know, your wifetold us you're gonna flee town

(57:34):
and we're here to stop youbefore you do that, because you
still owe us a bunch of money.
And that's when you realizethat the brief phone call that
we saw ruby make that morningwas her pretending to be the
wife and calling the lunchpeople.

Wilson (57:46):
I was like, oh snaps, good for her we do see her save
that number earlier in the movie.

Captain (57:51):
Yeah, just a tiny yeah, it's like tiny little scenes
that, yeah, where she saves myum numbers, um.
But yes, the loan shark peopleappear and they basically kill
the lawyer that's there and thenthey say they're going to
repossess his cars to pay forthe money that they owe him and
he's begging them not to takewhat the to take, not the jaguar

(58:14):
or something, right?

Wilson (58:15):
yeah, because that's the , the car that he messed with.

Captain (58:17):
Yeah, he's like begging them, but they take it anyway
and they put him in it, um, sothat does not end well.
They basically all drive off,uh quickly and then like kill
themselves over a cliff, um, andI really did assume that the
movie was gonna kind of end thisway, but it does keep going for

(58:40):
like 10 more minutes, which ohyeah, I was like I don't see how
he's not gonna die, but at thesame time I was like what
thriller doesn't have a finalconfrontation?
Like are we really gonna?

Wilson (58:52):
see him die separately that's okay.

Captain (58:54):
yeah, you're right.
Um, yeah, so you know the kidsget to a police officer and they
uh, they, you know, get in theback and they're gonna be like
saved or whatever.
But the police officer drivesup to the accident where you
know, get in the back andthey're going to be like saved
or whatever.
But the police officer drivesup to the accident where you
know the cars went over the edgeand Terry Terry approaches him,

(59:19):
punches him.
I don't know if he kills him orknocks him out, but he steals
the police officer's gun, climbsup the ledge that he flung his
car off over.
Somehow he's still alive,beaten up like bloody, and sees
that the kids are in the cop carand I guess his plan is that
he's gonna shoot them if theyget close enough.
Um, I don't know how that'sgonna work out.

(59:40):
like you have a police weapon,like they're gonna know that
right yeah, I don't reallyunderstand his plan with that,
but unless it was the mob guy'sgun, I don't know but, yeah I, I
don't know how he was gonna getout of that one, but um, ruby
in like a big sense of revenge,just literally runs him over

(01:00:03):
with the police car because shehas these flashes of her parents
dying in a car wreck and she'slike he was the one that caused
that.
So she like gets her bigrevenge at the end.
Um, I guess everything is fine.

Wilson (01:00:18):
Police are not charging her with manslaughter I feel
like they would eventually putit together, that like the whole
thing starts.

Captain (01:00:26):
Yeah um, but so the final scene we have is ruby and
ret are back with their uncle.
Um, it's really hard to watchthat scene, knowing what that
man's been through in real lifelike, or what he's been accused
of.

Wilson (01:00:41):
Yes, I don't know.
I mean it's like a sleaze, butlike in the movie he's supposed
to be a protective, safe harbor,uncle.

Captain (01:00:49):
Yes, and I don't like it, I don't like it.
So anyway, yes, you know you'rerooting for this main character
to kind of get her revenge.
And she does finally get it, sothat's good.
Um, the movie did not have tobe as.
I feel like they could have cut20 more minutes out of this
movie.

Wilson (01:01:09):
Yeah, I mean because we talked like halfway through and
you're like how's there stilllike almost another hour left?

Captain (01:01:15):
Yeah, it feels like we're like and maybe maybe 25
years ago the city wasn't aspredictable, but I don't know,
they really give it to you onthe nose like about halfway
through, where I'm like, okay,well wrap it up pretty clear now
.
Yeah yeah, but it goes on for awhile.
I don't really know.
There's like a whole side plotof her in driving school that

(01:01:37):
like we didn't need, like she'sa bad driver, I don't need to
know that she's getting trainingin driving school, because it
doesn't really add to the movieEverything that happens at the
school.
Besides, like the plagiarismletter, doesn't really matter.

Wilson (01:01:51):
I feel like for the driver's ed stuff, they wanted
to like the scene where sheescapes in the Jaguar.
They wanted to like the scenewhere she escapes in the jaguar.
They wanted to make it like shewould run into trouble at a
traffic stop because she doesn'thave her license.
Oh, but like that's a lot toadd just for I don't know yeah,
they added.

Captain (01:02:09):
I want to say that was like eight minutes of driving
school stuff all together.
I mean, yeah you just didn'tneed it.
You just didn't need it.
Yeah, I don't know why that wasthere the biggest.
Well, I don't know if youwanted to get into the hot costs
and the num-nums, but Hot costsand num-nums.

(01:02:29):
Okay, well, so the CV doesn'thave good reviews.
It's a 21% for critics and a39% for the audience, um which I
kind of agree with, um youreyes I was, I'm thinking, but
yeah, I feel like those are alittle harsh, though the movie

(01:02:50):
has a plot is it has

Wilson (01:02:56):
21 is harsh, I think okay, well, critic wise, I guess
I'm not surprised um, and thenit did not.

Captain (01:03:04):
It was not successful financially.
Budget was 30 million, boxoffice was less so 23.6 million.
So now that's not totally theirfault.
So the biggest hot goss is thisfilm suffered drastically
because of the 9-11 terroristattacks.
It got, I think, slightlydelayed from when it was

(01:03:26):
supposed to come out and it waslike one of the first movies
that came out the openingweekend, which was September
14th.
So like, I think, a lot ofmovie theaters I was young at
the time, I don't reallyremember, but sounds like a lot
of movie theaters closed downlike as a observance of oh of
people, of them I don't know, doyou remember?

(01:03:47):
I mean, we were like young, Ijust remember schools having
everybody come.

Wilson (01:03:53):
I honestly, I remember leaving school early that day
and then I don't remember anyother impact of like.

Captain (01:04:01):
I remember leaving school early that day I remember
talking to my parents about it.
I remember it was like all overtv, but like I don't remember
the next day, like I don'tremember anything weird
following that, but anyway, itsounded like a lot of movie
theaters paused maybe.
Um, so this movie was one ofthe first series that you know,

(01:04:26):
uh, premiered after 9-11, so itwas september 14th is when it
came out, which maybe it didn'tpause, maybe it was just like a
day that day, but I don't know,I just still feel like this it
would have gotten.

Wilson (01:04:42):
I mean, maybe the box office still would have suffered
, but I think the score is fairand that the box office tracks
with that score to me.
But I don't know.

Captain (01:04:53):
I would probably give this movie like, yeah, like a 40
.
Okay, I would probably givethis movie like a 40.
That's a little nice.
Maybe like a 37.

Wilson (01:05:06):
Okay, so you're at a 37.
Oh, I almost gave you a 73.
I record all of our ratings.

Captain (01:05:16):
I appreciate that.
I'm curious where they scaleand graph and stuff.

Wilson (01:05:23):
Yeah, I'll have to poke around with that.
I don't know.
I give it like a 30.
Maybe even like high 20s, Idon't know.

Captain (01:05:33):
Wow.

Wilson (01:05:35):
I'm going to say you know what final answer?
I'm going to say 30.

Captain (01:05:38):
Okay, I think that's fine.

Wilson (01:05:44):
I need to make sure I rate it on Letterboxd, which
let's see.

Captain (01:05:48):
It has a 2.6.
Yeah, I just gave it a 2.

Wilson (01:05:52):
There's a cat on my keyboard Get off.

Captain (01:05:56):
It's going to mess up the recording.
Included with the terroristattacks.
Um, supposedly lily.
I'll keep when I say lily ponds.
Who is that?

Wilson (01:06:07):
I don't know who the fuck that is I don't know.

Captain (01:06:10):
Is that a youtuber or something?
I don't know.
I don't know who that is, butlily so so.
So bowski and diane lane werescheduled to appear in talk
shows to promote the film theday of 9-11, but obviously that
didn't happen.
The original cut of the filmwas reported to be 180 minutes.

(01:06:31):
Can?

Wilson (01:06:32):
you imagine.
How.

Captain (01:06:35):
They cut 75 minutes out of the film.
I was like, well, you needed tocut a little bit more.

Wilson (01:06:39):
What else was possibly in there?

Captain (01:06:42):
Apparently, lily had a love interest.
That was in the movie that theyjust cut the whole thing out,
that whole story they just cutout, which I'm glad she did not
need a love interest.

Wilson (01:06:53):
Damn Whoever that male actor was.

Captain (01:06:56):
Yeah, they had the name on there, but I don't know who
that is.

Wilson (01:06:58):
Poor guy wasn't even in the movie.
Yeah, he wasn't creditedbecause they just cut everything
that he was in, Damn could youimagine you get your first
theatrical role and they cut outyour entire part?

Captain (01:07:10):
Oh, that's so sad.
Is he an actor now Kip Perdue?
Yes, oh yes, actor now kippurdue.

Wilson (01:07:27):
Uh, yes, oh yeah, he's been in some things I don't
recognize him, but remember thetitans I saw that like a hundred
years ago, yeah, well, I don'tthink he needed to be.

Captain (01:07:35):
I mean, I don't think this movie is gonna like raise
him, you know, critical acclaimhim.

Wilson (01:07:39):
No, I mean I get why they would have cut out the love
interest.
I don't think it would haveadded anything.

Captain (01:07:46):
Apparently, there are two scenes in the deleted scenes
on the DVD that one of them hashim in it, like you could watch
that there.
Otherwise, though, like allthose 75 minutes they cut out
like they're not accessibleanywhere, they're probably gone.
they said Okay, and then thismovie premiered the same weekend

(01:08:06):
as Hardball.
Couldn't tell you what that is,but it's funny that Diane Lane
starred in both of these movies,so she must have been really
big at the time.
I don't really.
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised.
I I was like for how this moviedid and I've never heard of it.

(01:08:27):
The cast is pretty good, yeah,but like you, diane lane, like I
mean it says she was in a bunchof stuff or she says she was
like mostly known for this.
What unfaithful movie.
But like I don't really knowthat was after this.
Like I don't really know thatwas after this.

Wilson (01:08:38):
I don't really know who she is, let me skim her
filmography really quick.

Captain (01:08:43):
I don't really know her .

Wilson (01:08:44):
I feel like I've just seen her in a bunch of stuff.

Captain (01:08:48):
Her two movies that premiered that weekend.
They were number one and numbertwo.
That weekend she was poppingoff, pop off.
Queen Lily supposedly got paida million dollars to do this
movie.
She was like you know how'sthat math check out?
She was like 3% of the.
Is that right?

Wilson (01:09:09):
That feels pretty good for this movie, but maybe I
don't know.

Captain (01:09:15):
And I don't.
I have not looked into this atall but, supposedly there's a
direct-to-video sequel that wasreleased in 2006, but it has
none of the original charactersand it has not the same same
place, the same house that thisfirst movie took place okay so I
don't know what that means, butthat's what I was, that's what

(01:09:36):
I saw online.
I'm curious Do you think it'sjust called the Glass House 2?
Oh my gosh.

Wilson (01:09:48):
I just looked through Diane Lane's filmography and I
do recognize her from severalthings.

Captain (01:09:55):
Okay.

Wilson (01:09:57):
Like I don't know if you ever saw the perfect storm um
under the, under the tuscan sunjumper under the tuscan sun.

Captain (01:10:07):
I've definitely heard of that, but like I don't know
what that's about that's a moviefor moms, but um it is.

Wilson (01:10:13):
It is pretty good glass.

Captain (01:10:15):
Glass House 2006 is called Glass House colon.
The Good Mother, which hasAngie Harmon.
Who, oh man, why do I recognizeher?
Is she in Lost or is thatsomething else?

Wilson (01:10:36):
Who.

Captain (01:10:37):
Angie Harmon her?

Wilson (01:10:42):
is she in lost or is that something else?
Who angie harman?

Captain (01:10:44):
uh, I feel like you're spitting out names tonight that
I have never heard in my life.
She's a she's a main uh uhperson in law and order.
She was in law and order forlike five years, I think oh, I
don't like another one of those,I know, but it's like basically
, like I like.
I remember watching TV where,like, the commercial for the
newest Law Order would come on.
Like you know, you end upseeing these faces all the time,
even if you don't even likewatch the show, or like the show

(01:11:05):
will come on after.
Whatever you're watching, youknow what I mean.

Wilson (01:11:08):
Okay, Like Law.

Captain (01:11:09):
Order was just basically always on TV at some
point.
One of them Not my house.
Really yeah, she not my house.
Really.
Yeah, she plays like a main.
She was in like 80 episodes, alot in order, um, that's why I
recognize her, but anyway,whatever, I was just looking up
the sequel to this movie, but ithas like munchausen's by proxy

(01:11:29):
in it oh, I mean, like thismovie didn't even do well enough
to like just come up with a newname for the movie yeah, I
don't even know why it has.
I couldn't tell you.
I really have no idea why it'seven attached.
No, um, so you like diane lane?

(01:11:49):
Yes, she's chill um, okay, so,oh, raise a glass, yeah, raise a
glass raise a glass.

Wilson (01:12:00):
What?

Captain (01:12:00):
are your Um okay, so oh , raise a glass, yeah raise a
glass.

Wilson (01:12:02):
Raise a glass.

Captain (01:12:02):
What are your thoughts?
Like did you think the movieportrayed people stressing over
loan sharks?

Wilson (01:12:12):
well, I guess, so it's fine.

Captain (01:12:19):
They've been ran, ran like they've been forced to
murder um, still in scars.

Wilson (01:12:25):
Guard had an amazing performance, as usual yeah, he
plays evil so well.

Captain (01:12:30):
I'm like what have you gone through?
Yeah, he is definitely the bestactor in this movie by far I
would agree that.
I would agree with that, yeahum, do you have a razor glass?

Wilson (01:12:42):
I think I pulled one out um, a scene I thought was extra
cringy.
Uh, when, like the mom or dianelane's character is, like you
know, blah, blah, blah, um, uh,this too shall pass, I'm like.
And then, like, lily is like,oh, I like that this phrase is

(01:13:06):
like a billion years old yeah,it's, yeah it's.

Captain (01:13:11):
You can't even blame it on 2001, like I don't know what
that's about.
The scene in the very beginningwith her biological parents are
also really cringy.
Everything in the beginning isvery cringy.
They talk about pager.
Like you know, I was waitingfor you to page me.
I'm like I do not miss thatlife.
Like I'm glad we were not atthe age where, like we were

(01:13:32):
paging people.

Wilson (01:13:35):
Agreed, that just sounds annoying.
It does sound super annoying Imean, they probably say the same
about cell phones like oh, youcan get texts, like at any time,
constantly yeah, but like apaging.

Captain (01:13:46):
It paging is just telling me hey, I want to talk
to you and I'm like I'm like nowI just go over to the phone.

Wilson (01:13:51):
Yeah, see what you wanted just talk to me now.

Captain (01:13:53):
Now you can just like send me whatever message you
wanted to send me yeah um what's?

Wilson (01:14:00):
your?
What's your razor glass?

Captain (01:14:01):
oh, my razor glass.
Um, I want to say that I didreally like.
I liked when ruby got uh, likegot terry and caught in a lie or
in trouble Like I, I.
I think I really liked the scenewhere Terry gets caught in a

(01:14:22):
lie or he's trying to like, uh,force his way into the trust
fund and then he finds out thatthe refund paper was already
sent to the guy and he was likewhat about this, but I think the
scene I like a little bit moreis when we find out Ruby made
that little secret phone calland called the mom guys and
pretended to be his wife Becauseit's just like, it's very

(01:14:43):
cathartic to be like, yes, gethim.

Wilson (01:14:46):
She was actually a pretty smart protagonist.

Captain (01:14:49):
Yeah, usually they play super dumb, but yeah, she was
actually pretty smart, I agree.
Honestly, I feel like thismovie you could do this whole
movie without red either withoutwho, the boy, oh yeah like they
, like I.
I was gonna say like, I don'tknow, she's just, she's like so

(01:15:14):
smart and like her brotherdoesn't.

Wilson (01:15:15):
I don't know, it's just like, but I guess if, if they
only had one person, then youcouldn't get the threats of like
oh I can kill you because youstill have a sibling.
But he doesn't add much to themovie, but I think they needed
him for that yeah, barely,barely yeah.

Captain (01:15:32):
What are your?
Oh wait, oh, next week right.
Yeah, wait, oh next week, right, yeah, or did you have any?
I mean final, final thoughts, Imean, would you, would you
recommend no?

Wilson (01:15:45):
uh, um no, I mean, if you like, if you like, uh,
thrillers, I guess it's likeokay, I don't know.

Captain (01:15:57):
I wouldn't.
I'm sorry, but it's notsupposed to be a good movie, so
it's fair.
Yes, next week we're doing theautopsy of Jane Doe woohoo we've
seen that.

Wilson (01:16:11):
We have seen that, and then we're going to talk about
it yes, and then we're going totalk about it.

Captain (01:16:16):
Do you got any questions for me?

Wilson (01:16:20):
yeah, so if I ever find myself in a similar situation
like what, what advice do youhave for me?

Captain (01:16:30):
oh, I don't know about a similar situation.
Well, I guess kind of to ruby,but there's a lot of car things,
bad car things, in this movie.
Right, parents die through acar.

Wilson (01:16:43):
Yeah.

Captain (01:16:46):
Like mob, people die in a car.
She's bad at driving.

Wilson (01:16:50):
She's very bad at driving.

Captain (01:16:53):
I think general advice, you know, is follow road rules,
wear your seatbelt, recklessdriving's bad.
Oh drunk driving's really bad,and I think that's great advice
that everybody needs to bereminded of.
There you go, thank you.