Village of the Damned

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Captain and Wilson dive into John Carpenter's 1995 sci-fi horror film Village of the Damned, a remake that fails to capture the magic of the 1960 original but delivers some campy entertainment value. It stars Christopher Reeve, Kirstie Alley, and Mark Hamill.

The film discussion begins around 20:30.

Episode Transcript

Wilson (00:17):
uh, all right, let me get some numbs.
Okay, let me get the.
Okay, let me get the skoriosreally quick that's another fun
one.

Captain (00:32):
I really would wear a t-shirt that says num, nums and
hot goose.

Wilson (00:38):
I mean, I would too.
That would be a fantastic shirt.

Captain (00:42):
Dude, I can't open this fucking can.
That'd be a fantastic shirt,dude, I can't open this fucking
can.

Wilson (00:50):
All right, are we ready to bop right in?

Captain (00:52):
I think so, I think I'm ready.

Wilson (00:54):
Do you remember a while ago we were talking about how
you told me in New York Citythey were?
Doing a casting call for Dexter.
Yes, yes, well, I don't haveany news about that, but oh, I
was about to say if you didsomething without me I would be
pissed like oh that's actuallythe real reason I went to new

(01:16):
york.
No, um, no, I did look, thoughthey were done.
They were done filming by thetime we.
We went.
Wow, um, but no, so, uh,actually, my boss sent me a link
this week and she was like hey,you know, in case you're
interested, I saw their um,they're gonna start filming soon
for the movie hershey inpittsburgh, like next month what

(01:40):
is that?
It's um they're doing like abiopic type thing of Milton
Hershey.

Captain (01:46):
Oh.

Wilson (01:46):
Yeah, and he's from Pittsburgh.
I don't know how that comesinto play.
I don't know if they're justlike shooting scenes here, but
taking place somewhere else.
I'm not sure.

Captain (01:55):
Okay.

Wilson (01:57):
But anyway, I signed up to be like a background actor.
I haven't heard back yet, but Ithink yeah.
So they wanted like all likeyour measurements and you'll be
in like 1930s clothes orsomething like that.
Uh, so it starts, I think, midmay, um, but yeah, I was like

(02:18):
I'll just do it, or I mean I'llat least submit my interest to
do it.
We'll see if.

Captain (02:22):
I get a call back.
How in-depth is thisapplication to be in the movie?

Wilson (02:30):
There's nothing crazy.
They really just want picturesof you, your availability and
then your measurements.

Captain (02:38):
Okay.

Wilson (02:39):
So I imagine, if I.

Captain (02:40):
Did anyone else do it?

Wilson (02:43):
Not that I didn't share it with any friends, it's just
my boss sent me the link so Iwas like I'll do it.
Not that I didn't share it withany friends, it's just my boss
sent me the link so I was likeI'll do it or I'll sign up.

Captain (02:53):
I think that's so funny that your boss sent you the
link, but they were like justbecause they think that you'd be
interested.
Yeah.

Wilson (03:02):
I feel like they just stumbled across that, oh,
filming in pittsburgh, I knowyou like movies, um.
But at the end she was like,yeah, hopefully like a saturday
or sunday will work out.
I looked at the forum and it'slike we don't film on saturday
or sundays.
So she's gonna know you take,oh yeah like if I get a call
like I'm gonna ask off and it's,it's her fault, she advertised

(03:28):
yeah she can't say no oh yeahI'm looking.

Captain (03:32):
Yeah, as of 11 hours ago, one of the news posts that
went in the news stations saidthat they're looking for extras
yeah, so I'll let you know ifanything happens from that.

Wilson (03:44):
Uh, it's, they say, if you get called in, it's like a
12 to 14 hour day, and then youhave to say if you're interested
to do several days so we'll seedo you get paid to be an extra?
You do it's like 225 per day oh, money, money honey.

Captain (04:03):
I mean I'm more excited , just like a cool experience.
So I hope yeah, yeah, you canhave your own imbd page with
your acting credit I don't knowif a background actor counts.

Wilson (04:17):
I don't know.
We've seen some low budgetfilms, yeah but I don't even
know if this would count asbackground acting.
You're just like sitting in achair, yeah.

Captain (04:35):
Well, I don't know, you could try.
I am very curious about I don'tknow.

Wilson (04:45):
I'm curious how it goes yeah, are there big names in the
movie um, the guy playingmilton is finn winchrock, which
he's not a huge name, but youwould recognize him from
american horror story.
Uh, I know he was in theCarnival one.
I think you'd recognize hisface.

Captain (05:07):
You didn't Finn.
Who Not Wolfhard?

Wilson (05:10):
No, it's like Finn Wintrock or something.

Captain (05:13):
Oh Winn.

Wilson (05:14):
Winn Wittrock.
Sorry, no N.

Captain (05:20):
Oh, wittrock, oh, this guy.
Okay, yeah, he's in AmericanHorror Story horror.
That's the only place Irecognize him.

Wilson (05:28):
I feel like he's um a scary person because of his
american horror story yeah, yeah, because I just see like a
creepy smile yes, exactly that'sall I see, too, okay um, and
then the actress, uh, I thinkhis wife is, um, I feel like it

(05:49):
was the one.
What is her name?
From the first season of whitelotus, I think, uh, that's gonna
.
I'm sorry, I'm looking it up.
Um, oh it, it is her AlexandraDaddario.

Captain (06:08):
Don't know.

Wilson (06:09):
Don't know, did you watch White Lotus?

Captain (06:12):
Yeah, but.

Wilson (06:13):
Oh, then you'd recognize her.

Captain (06:13):
Sir, that was so long ago, the first season I know
that was too long, too far ago.
Too far, too long ago Too farago, too far, too long ago, too
far ago, too far ago.
Okay, well, that's exciting.

Wilson (06:31):
Yeah, I want one.
I feel like they film a lot ofthings in Baltimore.

Captain (06:36):
Yeah, like DC Baltimore .
But that's a lot of work, itreally wasn't that much work
though.
I feel like you're probablyright well, okay, the sign up.

Wilson (06:48):
The sign up wasn't hard yeah, that's true.

Captain (06:50):
Let's see how it goes for you, and then we'll see.

Wilson (06:53):
Yeah uh, so the other thing I wanted to to bring up um
, do not laugh at me, you mighthave seen this on goodreads, but
um, I recently decided that Iwould read all of twilight, like
the, the twilight saga, becauseI never have and oh, you've
only seen the movies yeah, andthe movies are like.

(07:14):
I like them.
They're they're not amazing,but they're like fun
entertainment okay so I justfinished reading through all the
books.
I started like a month ago itwas, it was um, it's pretty good
, honestly there's no way.
There is no way I I do see likethere are some times where I'm

(07:37):
like this is terrible writing um, but it's still like.
It's like dumb entertaining getyour mind off of something
reading.
But yeah, I think I wouldrecommend it if you're looking
for, like some Nancy.

Captain (07:55):
No way, those are good, like I can't no, okay.

Wilson (08:01):
There is in Eclipse.
There is a scene that has notaged well where, like Bella
basically gets sexuallyassaulted and it's like glazed
over a little too much.

Captain (08:16):
Is that early 2000s, those books?

Wilson (08:19):
Yes, yes.

Captain (08:22):
Sounds about right yeah .

Wilson (08:25):
But I mean, I think that book would have come out in
like at least 2008 or something.
So I don't know.
I like the first two books.
Their relationship is kind ofweird.
I do get the criticisms, butyeah.

Captain (08:40):
How different is it from the movies?

Wilson (08:42):
I will say that, the.
I will say that, the.
I will say the.
It makes the movies lessawkward or that, if you've
watched them, there are a lot ofscenes where you're like that
reaction feels awkward orsomething somebody said, and in
the book it makes more sense.

Captain (09:06):
Because there's more detailed background.

Wilson (09:10):
Yeah, there's more context behind that weird
reaction in the movie, do you?

Captain (09:15):
still get you named our daughter after the Loch Ness
Monster.

Wilson (09:19):
You do, yep, you get that one.

Captain (09:24):
There's like nothing more cringy than I that scene, I
feel like yeah there's some badones, but that one is rough
there's.

Wilson (09:35):
There have been, uh, like, interviews with stephanie
meyer and she's like I'll rereadthis and just think why did I
write it that way?
That's so cringy, um, buthonestly, my favorite book is it
wasn't in the original saga.
She rewrote the first book fromedward's perspective and that
was honestly the mostinteresting book I thought

(09:56):
because it's all from bella'sperspective yeah okay, so is it
four books then um no, it's well, it's already four books, this
would make it five.
And then there's a novella ohbecause there's twilight, new
moon, eclipse, breaking dawn andthen midnight.

(10:16):
Sun is the is twilight fromedward's perspective even those
names are like eye roll.

Captain (10:27):
Well, enjoy.

Wilson (10:29):
I just finished it.
Last night I've been watchingeach movie after I finished the
book, so this weekend you'redoing it like Harry Potter style
.

Captain (10:37):
Yeah.

Wilson (10:37):
I was like why not?
Wow but now when I watch themovies it feels like I never saw
them before.
I don't know why, but I'm likethis movie is.
That's very weird for you tosay, but now when I watch the
movies it feels like I never sawthem before.
I don't know why.

Captain (10:46):
But I'm like this movie is.
That's very weird for you tosay it looks brand new to me.
That is so weird for you to sayI feel like you love those
movies.
Yeah, I don't know, like in awhat's that?

Wilson (11:00):
word, do not say obsessive.

Captain (11:04):
No, what's that phrase that people use um guilty
pleasure?

Wilson (11:08):
yes, they are my guilty pleasure, but uh, I don't know
do not say obsessive, okay, I've.

Captain (11:19):
I've been reading a little, but not as much as I
wanted to.
We've been watching the pitgreat show um severance done
great show, yep we watcheddaredevil too.
Did you watch that?

Wilson (11:32):
no, I was never really into daredevil.
Did I tell you I started silo?
I feel like you told me towatch that oh, I love silo.

Captain (11:40):
Silo's so good and you have two seasons.

Wilson (11:43):
I know I'm like I think I've watched six episodes and
then I took a break when Istarted this like twilight binge
.
So now that I'm done, I thinkI'm gonna get back to it oh,
it's really good.

Captain (11:52):
I love silo.
It's great and it's one of thefew ever since I started reading
like crazy.
I feel like the kindle has.
I've ruined tv shows becauseI'm like I already read it, but
Tyler's one of the few oneswhere I never read the books.
So I get to enjoy it as theshow.
So that's nice.
Like Apple TV has a show outright now called Dark Matter and

(12:14):
I was like, oh, I would feellike I'd love that show, but I
already read the whole book.

Wilson (12:18):
Ew.

Captain (12:19):
Yeah.

Wilson (12:20):
I think Finn is reading Dark Matter.
He was going to start it.

Captain (12:24):
It's good, it's good.

Wilson (12:27):
Are you watching Righteous Gemstones?

Captain (12:30):
The new season I haven't started it.
Is it good?

Wilson (12:33):
It is good it's the final season, but even the first
, actually the second episode.
I will warn you, the firstepisode is not any of the
characters.
They're doing a creative thingor whatever.
It'll make sense later, butyeah.

Captain (12:54):
I liked Rachel's Gemstones, but it's never been a
top show for me.

Wilson (12:58):
It's fine oh yeah, I mean it's not a top show, but
Judy gemstone in the horriblethings she says it's um very
that guy's comedy, the um um,I'm blanking I know, I almost
said jesse gemstone um danielbride yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

(13:22):
very.
It's like not slapstick, but itis like physical and kind of
like yelly or I don't know, likeum yeah yeah, but it's like he
is um, I feel like that would beeasy for him to have like
comedy that's not aging well,but he is adapting.

(13:42):
He's's adapting it well.

Captain (13:44):
That's true.
Yeah, because a lot of I couldsee him not Like.
It would be a bad stumble forhim.
Yes, oh wait.

Wilson (13:53):
So that reminds me, since Walton Goggins is in
Righteous Gemstones, did youwatch the most recent season of?

Captain (13:58):
White Lotus Okay, yes, yeah, yeah.
What did you?

Wilson (14:01):
think about it.

Captain (14:03):
It was probably my least favorite season.

Wilson (14:07):
Okay.

Captain (14:08):
But it was fine.
I wasn't expecting it toconnect so much to the previous
season.
So I kind of wish I rewatchedseason two before I watched it,
because then I had to go backand Google a bunch of stuff.

Wilson (14:21):
Okay.

Captain (14:23):
But it was fine.

Wilson (14:24):
Yeah, at first I wasn't really feeling it.
I think the, the theme song,definitely grew on me, and
there's hot goss with thatapparently.

Captain (14:32):
But oh yeah, the guy that was like fuck this show,
yeah, but the extended versionis on youtube so he does get to
the.

Wilson (14:40):
The song does eventually get to the White Lotus sound
the main melody, yeah, yeah.
The ending.
There's some parts of it I waslike, but overall I really like
the season.

Captain (14:53):
I'm just mad that that girl from Blackpink or whatever
that Her role was pointless.
Yeah, what the fuck was that?

Wilson (15:08):
Yeah, that storyline.
I didn't love her and um uh daydie talk right guy talk.
I think it was yeah, yeah, yeahoh, yeah, yeah, um.

Captain (15:18):
I just that just pissed me off.
I was like I don't why is thishappening?
And I don't, why is thishappening and I don't like that
Walter Goggins and hisgirlfriend like don't really
make a lot of sense, likethere's not a lot of depth.
Besides, she just wants to getlike trampled over, like if we

(15:41):
got some backstory as to likehow they got together, why he
means so much to her, but likeit doesn't really track that's
fair.

Wilson (15:50):
That is a fair criticism .
Yeah, so you hated the seasonyeah, it really wasn't my
favorite.

Captain (15:56):
It was fine wow I I feel like if I went, if I went
back and rewatch season one andtwo, i'd'd be like this is White
Lotus.

Wilson (16:05):
Oh yeah, I mean, those are amazing seasons.

Captain (16:08):
Yeah, and I feel kind of bad because this is the only
season that Jay watched.

Wilson (16:14):
How has he not watched the other seasons?

Captain (16:16):
Because I don't think he would like them that much.
To be honest, they're kind of aslow character show and not
really plot-driven much and Ijust don't, I just feel like he
wouldn't.
I don't know, I just feel likehe wouldn't really like them.
And then we started watchingthis one and I don't know he
watched the whole thing but Idon't think.

(16:37):
Again, I don't think it was hisfavorite either.

Wilson (16:40):
Yikes.

Captain (16:42):
It was a bad season to start with.
Well, I either, yikes, it was abad season to start with.

Wilson (16:44):
Well, I mean, if you said he wouldn't like the other
ones, anyway, I guess it doesn'tdefinitely would have liked the
other ones better well, therewe go, so uh I feel like that's
a low bar now if he was okaywith this season, you could
easily show him the other onesyeah, and I think he was okay
but okay.

Captain (17:03):
I guess he can only go up yes but yeah, we've been
watching like a lot more TV.
Honestly, I feel like there wassomething else we were watching
too we just started Loot thatone's good it is good.

Wilson (17:20):
I don't love season 2 as much so far no season 1's
better it's probably gonna getcancelled, but we'll see.
I don't love season two as muchso far.
No, season one's better, it'sprobably going to get canceled,
but we'll see.

Captain (17:31):
Oh, and you said you don't watch Invincible.
No, you never got into it.
No.

Wilson (17:36):
I've been kind of staying off, not purposely.
But Amazon Prime, I justthere's, I don't know, there's
like nothing.
I there's not a lot I want onthere and we just have like the
ad version or we never, upgradedafter they changed the tiers,
so there's something on NetflixI feel like I oh my gosh on Max.

Captain (18:00):
Okay, this is super random, but I have been getting
into watching like a bunch oflike those like three part true
crime docu documentary.

Wilson (18:10):
The ones that, like never have a satisfying ending.

Captain (18:13):
Kind of, but um the one about army hammers family dude.
I would recommend that one onmax.
I was like damn, damn.

Wilson (18:23):
Okay, I'd watch that.

Captain (18:27):
Yeah, that one on max, I was like damn damn okay, I'd
watch that.
Yeah, that one was like becauseI heard about the whole like
jokes about how he's a cannibalbut yeah, I never really like
read about the story but ittalks about that.
But it talks about like, um,that's just like the tip of the
iceberg with the family and Iwas like, oh so I don't know.
I would recommend watching it.
That one was good.

Wilson (18:44):
That one's on max.
I'll add that to the list.

Captain (18:46):
Yeah, but yeah, do you want to?
How are we feeling?

Wilson (18:51):
Bop in.

Captain (18:54):
You know you know.

Wilson (18:55):
Okay.
So first, are you enjoying anysort of beverage?

Captain (19:01):
Yeah, I was having my Corona Premier.
Nice With the lime, the lime II'm having a, a cherry, truly
your um hair.
Is that grown out or are youre-frosting?

Wilson (19:15):
oh um.
I got tired of being completelyblonde, so when it got just
long enough, I cut it, but Icouldn't get all the blonde out,
so there's still a little bit.
It looks like it's frosted.
Yeah, I can it, but I couldn'tget all the blonde out, so
there's still a little bit itlooks like it's frosted yeah, I
can't.
Obviously I can't gel it,because then I'll have frosted
tips um, but as soon as it's badyeah, so I don't know, but as

(19:37):
soon as it's long enough that Ican cut it, and it won't be a
buzz, it's out of here oh, wow,okay, wow, okay Sorry.

Captain (19:43):
I just was like it's really showing off in the light
right now.

Wilson (19:48):
You're welcome.

Captain (19:49):
I feel like if you just rock with confidence, it just
looks like you just frosted ashigh you're going, oh yeah.

Wilson (19:56):
Yeah, I do like it, but I'm ready for it to be gone.
Also I can't have it for theHershey movie.
If I'm called for that becausepeople didn't really dye their
hair, then that's fair.
Yeah.

Captain (20:11):
Well, you got to keep your acting physique all
together.
Make sure you get it.
I get it.
I know what you're talkingabout.

Wilson (20:22):
You're in the biz.

Captain (20:23):
Yeah, okay, sorry for interrupting.
Oh, you're good, you're in thebiz.

Wilson (20:27):
Yeah, okay, sorry for interrupting oh, you're good,
you're good.
Okay, so I had a drink.
I have a drink.

Captain (20:34):
Yeah, we have them.

Wilson (20:35):
I'll pull us in here, skrrt.

Captain (20:40):
Skrrt.

Wilson (20:41):
Welcome to the 167th episode of the Red Room Podcast,
where we review horror movieswhile enjoying an adult beverage
or two.

Captain (20:52):
Oh, and I'm Captain.

Wilson (20:53):
And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 1995
science fiction horror filmVillage of the Damned.
I swear, every time I try tosay the name of this movie I, my
brain wants to say children ofthe corn uh, that's fair.
I I totally understand for along time I got the movies
confused because, like I knew,village of the damned had

(21:15):
children, so it's like you knowthey're not that far off no,
they're not.
They, they're really not.

Captain (21:24):
This, definitely this movie, though, is like there's
not a lot.
Well, I well, I had somethoughts feelings, yes, but um,
I think tilt in the corner has alittle bit more depth yes, yeah

(21:46):
, I wonder if this oh sorry, Iwas like john carpenter, it is
which is surprising, um, but Idid read some hot goss.

Wilson (21:55):
I'll just share it now okay because it's it is relevant
um that.
It's about John Carpenter In aninterview in 2011, he described
this film as a contractualassignment and that he wasn't
really passionate about it.

Captain (22:13):
Damn Okay.

Wilson (22:17):
I guess that's clear.

Captain (22:19):
Yeah, I see it.

Wilson (22:24):
I know actors get stuck in movies sometimes, I guess
contractually, so that's howthey end up in these.
You see really A-list actors inthese terrible movies.

Captain (22:36):
I mean, now they get contractually obligated to do a
certain number of Netflix, don'tthey do that with?
I can't remember who it was,but somebody was forced to do a
certain number of Netflix movies.
Oh, and then Blumhouse has thatthing with Hulu, halloween or
whatever, where they had to do acertain number of movies.

Wilson (22:59):
You mean Huluween?

Captain (23:01):
Is that what it was?

Wilson (23:02):
I think that's what they call it.
I mean, why would they not?
It's a perfect setup.

Captain (23:08):
Yeah, I guess, but I don't think that's.
I don't know.
Maybe they did and I'm stupid.

Wilson (23:12):
I don't know.
I just don't feel like there'sany way that I created that term
myself.

Captain (23:19):
It's so genius.
So creative it's so, uh, geniusso creative.

Wilson (23:25):
Yeah, um, okay, so all right.
So yeah, it's directed by johncarpenter, written by david
himmelstein.
Um, john carpenter, you willrecognize, did the thing the
halloween fresh us.
Uh, christine, they live.
You know, I've, I know, I'veseen they live, but because the
title, I never remember whichmovie it is yeah, I don't know.

Captain (23:48):
I I think about christine a lot.
I really liked that shockinglythat actually is a really good
movie I don't think I rated itsuper high, but like looking
back on it I was like that was acool concept movie and then it
was executed yes, I went.

Wilson (24:04):
I probably said this on the episode we did christine,
but I went to high schoolsomebody that looks exactly like
the main character likechristine the car.
Yes, yes, yeah, they just drovearound the school like that.
Uh no, I think richie commentnoham.
No wait, richie Cunningham, isthat not Happy Days?

Captain (24:26):
Girl.

Wilson (24:27):
That's such a 1950s name .

Captain (24:29):
Richie.

Wilson (24:30):
Yeah, I just looked it up.
No, that's Happy Days.
That's Ron Howard's character.
Let me Hold on.

Captain (24:40):
Did you just have to look up Christine Kast, arnie
Cunningham Is that who you'retalking?

Wilson (24:46):
oh, yes, yes, okay.
So I knew, the last name iscunningham okay keith gordon.

Captain (24:52):
The cunningham is the name of the character did you
say the cunningham?
No, I said cunningham the nameis yeah, it's the last name of
the character, not the actoryeah oh, oh, sorry oh okay, yeah
, I guess I actually didn't saythat, but um, yeah, anyway.

Wilson (25:12):
No, the guy from my high school looks exactly like him
like keith gordon yeah or atleast how he looks in Christine.

Captain (25:21):
He's looking a little rough right now.

Wilson (25:23):
Yeah but I think I first met this person when I also
first saw that movie, so it justfelt really weird.

Captain (25:33):
You're like hi Kevin, him like Spongebob.
Hi Kevin, yeah, okay, he lookslike a more normal person in
pictures from the movie in thepictures.

Wilson (25:48):
So, uh, okay, so we had.
Yeah, all right, we weretalking about john carpenter,
what he did.
Um, okay, so cast there's somegood names in here.
Well, okay, there's some allright names.
Um, I'll say the big name ischristopher christopher reeve,
who played superman.
Um, he's the actor that uhbecame paralyzed by that horse
accident.
Um, I first learned about himfrom smallville when he showed

(26:12):
up as a special guest.

Captain (26:15):
Um, oh yeah, I forgot, I wrote this.
Yeah, I guess there's adocumentary about him.

Wilson (26:22):
I guess that doesn't surprise me, but I haven't seen
it.

Captain (26:25):
They used some footage of him like after he Is he dead.

Wilson (26:29):
He is.

Captain (26:30):
Okay.

Wilson (26:35):
Yeah, so Sorry.
I'm going to skip to the biggername actors.
First Christy Alley.
Well, I was going to say Markthe bigger name actors.

Captain (26:42):
First Christy Alley.

Wilson (26:43):
Well, I was going to say Mark Hamill.

Captain (26:46):
Oh right.

Wilson (26:48):
As you should all know, is Luke Skywalker.
He was in House of the Usher.
He's a prominent voice actor.
I forgot he was in the House ofUsher.
I really liked that show.
Dude, that was like peak tv,yeah uh, um, anyway, yep, so, uh

(27:08):
, as you said, we did havekirsty alley um, we don't really
like her, but she is also wedon't like her.

Captain (27:17):
She has also passed away, so, oh, are we not what?
We don't like her because of umsome bad things.

Wilson (27:27):
Uh, she was canceled somehow, or oh you know what?
She's a scientologist and shesupports some people that I do
not support.

Captain (27:40):
That's fair.
That's fair she never reallydid much besides cheers right.

Wilson (27:49):
She was in the Mary-Kate and Ashley movie.
It Takes Two which I loved thatmovie when I was younger.

Captain (27:55):
It's good.
I was more obsessed with theirmovie with the sleepover, where
they do the pizza song.

Wilson (28:03):
Did I ever tell you that's our trivia team's name
and inspiration.
Which I've never seen thatmovie.

Captain (28:08):
I can't believe.
You've never, you still haven'twatched it no.
Y'all should get your triviateam together and watch that
movie.

Wilson (28:14):
I honestly think they have seen it.
I just have not.

Captain (28:17):
I've looked up the scene, but that's it.
Do they know you haven't seenit Because I've looked up the
scene, but that's it.
Do they know you haven't seenit because I'm?

Wilson (28:26):
going to tell them?
And they're going to tie youdown in a chair?
Probably should.
Every time we get a questionright, a graphic that we choose
displays on the screen and thenaudio plays like every team can
pick their audio clip and it'slike the voiceover from that
movie it's that sound girl.

Captain (28:48):
Oh my god, I would, I would die so hard.

Wilson (28:51):
P-i-z-z-a yeah, that is so funny yep, that's hysterical.
You really need to watch thatmovie let me add it to my
letterboxd watch list, which Ihave noticed you haven't been
using watch list, or?

Captain (29:04):
yeah, I actually totally forgot about letterboxd
until like 15 minutes before westarted our movie tonight.

Wilson (29:13):
Like I legit forgot it existed well, actually one thing
I was going to ask you aboutletterboxd, just quick aside.
Um, whenever you rate movies Idon't know if you know this or
not, but I don't your friendsdon't see that you rated them,
unless when you click on themovie you say review and log,
like if you just put starsinstead of clicking review or

(29:36):
log, then I don't see on my feedthat you watched it oh yeah, we
talked about that, it's reallynot user-friendly and it's kind
of stupid yeah hey, I didn't saythat out loud.
No, I do like the app anyway.
I think the letter.

Captain (29:51):
God, gods are gonna letterbox.
Gods are coming down here tosmite me, I mean you never know
who's listening to this podcast.

Wilson (29:57):
Oh my god.
Uh, all right, all right, it'sKat Back to the cast.
So we have Linda Kozlowski.
She was in Crocodile Dundee.
She plays one of the mothers.
Michael Perret, there's nothinghere, yeah.

Captain (30:20):
I don't know, these are like the top build people, but
to be honest, I'm oh okay, Iknow who Frank is, okay.

Wilson (30:27):
Okay, then we had Meredith Salinger.
She was in, like Placid, secretLife of Pets.
Was that one or two or both ofthem?

Captain (30:36):
I think it's the first one.
There's like a crazy cat ladythat has a lot of cats.

Wilson (30:44):
Married to.

Captain (30:45):
Patton the first one there's like a crazy cat lady
that has a lot of cats marriedto patten alswalt.

Wilson (30:48):
Yeah, I don't know who that is.
Yeah also, yes, I do, I justdon't remember her she.

Captain (30:51):
You forgot that she's a doctor.
Oh wait, I don't know.
She's a doctor.
She has a.

Wilson (30:58):
She has a psychology degree from harvard okay, so
she's, but I don't know if it'sa doctorate degree oh well, is
she the girl?
Well, we'll talk about later.

Captain (31:10):
Um, and then we have peter jason fuck is ben in this
movie ben ben blum.

Wilson (31:19):
You don't know who Ben Blum is.

Captain (31:22):
Oh, okay, tell me who Ben Blum is.

Wilson (31:25):
I see his picture from 2006 and I'm trying to.
I think he was the guy.

Captain (31:33):
Is he the?

Wilson (31:33):
who I thought it would come to me by the time I
finished that sentence.
Oh, I know who he is.

Captain (31:40):
I know who he is.
I know who he is.
Who is he he is?
I know who he is, who is he?
He's the guy that was gone fora year in Japan.

Wilson (31:47):
Oh.

Captain (31:48):
Welcome home, ben, you got that.

Wilson (31:50):
Yep, yep, yep, tracking.
All right, let's jump in themovie.

Captain (31:54):
Did you say that he's done seven John Carpenter movies
?

Wilson (31:58):
I think I mumbled something.

Captain (32:00):
John carpenter movie well, he's done seven of them
good for him okay, hit me allright.

Wilson (32:11):
So, um, hopping into this movie, um, basically, the
movie starts out with, like yousee, I don't know, like 10
minutes of just it's a smalltown, people are getting ready
for this like festival, whatever, and we meet a few characters.
You can tell some of them wantto get pregnant.
They're not, you know it's.

(32:32):
We're seeing various couplesand their lives as they're
getting ready for this festivalschool fair yeah, and I every
man in this movie looked exactlythe same.

Captain (32:43):
I did not know who who was who.
They're all just like mediumbuild, medium hair, medium men
all brown hair.
It's like white men with brownhair I was like I don't know who
the fuck.
Then I was like okay, Irecognize.
It's like okay, I recognizeSpooperman, spooperman.

Wilson (33:01):
Spooperman.

Captain (33:02):
But that was it.
It took me a while to figureout what was going on.

Wilson (33:06):
But I got it.
Yeah, so now basically thedoctor Christopher Reeve, who's
basically the main character.

Captain (33:15):
Dr Allen.

Wilson (33:18):
Allen McGowan.

Captain (33:20):
I don't like how that sounds Allen McGowan, allen
McGowanowan.

Wilson (33:24):
Dr Alan Chaffrey no, you're right, they just call him
Alan.
You're right, I had the namesmixed up.
So he, basically Him and hiswife, are trying to get pregnant
.
He leaves the town for theafternoon to go do doctor stuff
Somewhere else.
So everyone else is left in thetown for the afternoon to go do
doctor stuff somewhere else.
So everyone else is left in thetown.

Captain (33:46):
Well, Frank's sent off to get helium, but he's still
affected.

Wilson (33:50):
Yeah, I think he doesn't go very far, or like he's on
his way back and at one pointit's like 10 am.
Everyone passes out.
With wispy yeah, wispy windsyeah right before this, there
were a lot of like dark class orlike shadows and they, but they
were like.
The wind sounds like it'swhispering earlier okay, yeah so

(34:13):
like everybody, faints yes sowe see a couple scenes of like
people that were driving theycrash.
For example, this guy you justmentioned getting helium.

Captain (34:23):
He hit like a another truck and just blew up I think
it was a fence post, but yeah,it is.
I mean, michael bay styleexplodes.
I was like I was watching thisand I was like, oh, okay, that's
.
You did tell me it was.

Wilson (34:39):
This was campy yeah, not expecting the explosion budget,
but I I forget how this moviewas released, but it is giving
like sci-fi movie um even theanimals, even the cattle, faint
too oh yes, yeah, every, everyliving thing, basically faints
oh yeah, there's a pet bird orsomething yeah, um, I will say I

(35:05):
can't say.
I will say, um, the there's thegirl that, like, fell asleep in
the bathtub that lived, but okay, these people are asleep for
six hours.
She wakes up and, like thebathtub's filled obviously.
Do you know how much damage toyour house would be done after
six hours?
Whatever, that's all I canthink about that scene.

(35:25):
Um, but anyway, before theywake up, the doctor or like some
policemen, get to the town lineand they notice people are
passing out as soon as theycross this line.

Captain (35:37):
So they're calling it was a mess of like cops.
Yeah, uh, epidemiologists likedetectives.
Like there was a mess of likecops.
Yeah, epidemiologists likedetectives.
Like there was a fuck ton ofpeople there that were like
blocking the town off before DrAllen can get back.

Wilson (35:50):
Yeah.

Captain (35:50):
And then they just chalk off the road where the
town ends, I guess Because theydon't want anyone to enter.

Wilson (35:58):
But clearly it's not like gaseous, because it's like
to a very defined line yeah, sowhen he, when he gets there,
yeah, they're like talking aboutyou know how it's a clearly a
fine line.
So they send in a policeofficer on a rope, he passes out
, they pull him back and then,you know, a minute later people

(36:18):
start waking up.
It's six hours later, 4 pm.

Captain (36:22):
And we meet Susan Verner in this scene, which she
is like the lead epidemiologiston the case, like she works for
the National Science Council orsomething.

Wilson (36:34):
Yeah, kirstie Alley.
Oh yeah, Sorry, kirstie Alley,yeah.

Captain (36:39):
I don't know if that's real, but she's a main character
in this movie.

Wilson (36:44):
Yeah, I was like I don't know if that's real either.
It just sounded fake and I'mlike can we not name real
agencies Because I know youmentioned, like NASA later or
the NIH?

Captain (36:54):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, she tried.

Wilson (36:57):
Yeah, she did try.
So basically, obviously wheneveryone starts waking up, they
go in, inspect everyone and thenwithin a couple days or weeks
you start to realize all thesewomen are pregnant.

Captain (37:11):
Every single fertile woman of age is pregnant.

Wilson (37:16):
Yes, and they realize it all happened on the same day
and that's where everyone hasthat realization, like during
the blackout, what they wereraped or something you know.

Captain (37:27):
Yeah, they were inseminated somehow.
We also meet, we see Frank'sfuneral and we also meet Mark
Camel at that time because he'sa priest, but I guess he's not,
so like I don't know.
I was confused because-.

Wilson (37:41):
He has a wife.

Captain (37:42):
He has a wife.
So I was like, okay, not like apriest, but some type of pastor
.
But he had the white collarthing which I thought was like
only Catholic priests.

Wilson (37:50):
My only, the only difference, I think, with the
collar, like what the Catholicones are, like it's all black
until it's white right in thecenter, whereas like his are
like it's all black until it'swhite right in the center
whereas, like his was white thewhole way around.

Captain (38:07):
Oh, it was yeah, oh, okay.
Well, he has a wife too.
That's also pregnant yeah Ithink, yes and we also get the
um ben, welcome home ben andben's wife's pregnant and Ben
was pissed the fuck off becausehe's been away in Japan for like
a whole year.
Okay, I'm stupid, because I waslike, why is Ben so mad?

(38:29):
And it took me like literally10 minutes later of watching it
he'd be like oh, I'm dumb.
Obviously he was not here to bethe father.

Wilson (38:42):
Right.

Captain (38:43):
It's just like not putting that together.

Wilson (38:45):
And so obviously that's a fair reaction.
But he's also having thisreaction after it's clear that
every other woman in town wasinseminated while they were
passed out.
So are you saying she cheatedon you or like I don't?

Captain (38:59):
I mean, if you, okay, your first thought is going to
be that she cheated and not that, like she was, I don't know,
inseminated by an alien wilson,like that's not gonna be your
first thought.

Wilson (39:10):
Well, no, but like obviously when they had that
party and the person was like oh, I'm taking pictures, like
smile for your pregnancy, andyou get that awkward look
between ben and his wife likeyeah, then when it just seems
like you're pregnant, obviouslyyou cheated.
But I'm just like, wheneverit's explained to him and the
town that every single woman ispregnant on the same day during

(39:33):
the blackout, I'd be like, hmmokay, maybe the party.

Captain (39:37):
The party was like early on.

Wilson (39:39):
I I understand like oh yeah, I just think he was mad
too long okay, that's fair.
He was mad until the baby wasliterally pushed out, and then
I'm like I'm here all right, Imean I guess you finally
realized, but whatever, um soanyway, you know it kind of like
fast forwards ish through thepregnancies, uh we.

Captain (40:01):
We have the town hall with kirstie allie explaining
that she'll pay them to keep thebabies if she can do science on
them yeah, so it ends up beinglike eight women uh, yeah, yeah.
So she yeah, eight of thembasically kept it and she said
like, yeah, I will pay you agazillion dollars if you keep it
and we can do long term testson it.

(40:23):
This is the NIH, like they'rethe reason why we're
scientifically interested inthis, and if you terminate,
we'll even bring a medical teamnext week that will allow you to
do that.
I don't understand, but duringthe pregnancy, the women also
had these like weird dreamswhere, where there were
goddesses in robes smiling atthe light.

(40:44):
I don't really know what thatwas about.
They don't really explain thatlater on and I thought that was
going to come into play, butit's just a weird scene.
And then you get the birthingscene.

Wilson (40:55):
Yes.

Captain (40:58):
Did you read this book?

Wilson (40:59):
I did not, but I'm kind of curious.

Captain (41:01):
Now I feel like that's got to make more.
You read this book?
I did not, but I'm kind ofcurious.
Now I feel like that's got tomake more sense, yeah oh yeah,
well, at least I would hope so.

Wilson (41:07):
Um, I feel like there's something I was gonna say.
Oh yeah, the one thing I wasn'tsure about.
So every woman in town ispregnant.
We also have varner saying atone point, no one's chose to
terminate the pregnancy and weend up with eight women.

Captain (41:26):
How small is this town.
I was really confused becauseat first it literally looked
like 50 yeah so I was.
I also was like these numbersare not matching, but I was just
gonna let it be yeah, so we'reletting that be because even
after they give birth, and theyhave that scene of them all
getting baptisms by Mark Hamill.
I'm like that looked like therewas 50 women in there still.

Wilson (41:48):
Yeah, so I don't know, so anyway, they all give birth.

Captain (41:55):
One of them, yeah.

Wilson (41:57):
One of the eight dies during birth, so there's only
seven of these healthy childrenwho end up being very pale,
white, blonde hair.

Captain (42:08):
Very, what's that?
What is that called?
When you're like Albino.

Wilson (42:15):
Oh, it's two different words.

Captain (42:19):
Both of those things.
But yeah, kirstieie alley'scharacter, dr verner, um, she
like steals the stillbirth baby,like she wraps it no one's
allowed to see it.
She tells people she does anautopsy on it but like uh, she
doesn't let anyone see it orhold it and she kind of like
sneaks it off to a clinic.

Wilson (42:39):
Yeah, and we see this baby later on and it's like an
alien baby and I'm like I haveseveral questions.

Captain (42:46):
I have questions too.

Wilson (42:46):
Why does it look like an alien baby but none of the
other babies look like alienbabies?

Captain (42:51):
And why is it like grown a bit, like it's not
immediate birth size?

Wilson (42:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Captain (43:01):
That's another point you have to gloss over, I guess
when she wrapped it up in the.
Obviously there's nothing inthat blanket that she's holding
but when she?
When she wrapped it up it'slike literally the size of like
a soda can like yeah, I was likeI wasn't an early birth yeah, I
mean she said it was uh, yeah,it was like a, yeah, like full
term, but it had its umbilicalcord wrapped around its neck.
I'm like, okay, well, it shouldbe a little bigger than what

(43:23):
that blanket is.

Wilson (43:24):
All they need to do is stuff like a bag of potato chips
in there and it'd be fine.
I get, yeah anything I don'tknow, but it's a rolled up
blanket yeah, so um, so it kindof cuts for or jumps maybe a
couple of years, you know.

(43:44):
So the kids are like late orlike early toddler age, and then
this is where we see mostlyit's the interaction with the
doctor's wife and the kid likestarts getting like glowy eyes.
I think it's the first glowyeye scene, right, or it just
stares.

Captain (44:02):
I think it's the first glowy eye scene.
Right, or it just stares.
I think it's the first glowyeye scene.
Yeah, you see the one scenebefore that where david is like
a year old maybe and he canspell his name already and
they're like you're weird yeahand then, yeah, and then she
goes to her friend's house Ithink it's melanie with the,
with the baby, with the glowyeyes, with the boiling soup yes

(44:22):
yeah yeah, and she like, it'sclear the baby with her glowing
eyes.

Wilson (44:29):
Telepathy forces the mom to stick her arm in this
boiling water.
Yeah, yeah, uh.
So she ends up in the hospital,as one does in that type of
situation.
Um, and then?

Captain (44:43):
she like basically the next scene.
She like kills herself, Doesn'tshe?

Wilson (44:47):
Yeah, I think sometime passes because her arm is
entirely healed.
Um, but she does jump off acliff and it's pretty clear the
child like compelled her to dothat.
I think she was alreadydepressed.

Captain (44:59):
This is Superman's wife .

Wilson (45:01):
Yes.

Captain (45:01):
Right, yeah, um, I can that.
I think she was alreadydepressed.
This is superman's wife.
Yes, right, yeah, um, I, Ican't remember.
I think it's around the sametime.
You do hear dr verner talkabout the fact that there have
been a couple of accidentquote-unquote accidents but
there are suicides like aroundthis um.
But she's like has gottenenough funding from the nh to
continue this study, um, but thechildren are basically like all

(45:25):
identical albino children.

Wilson (45:28):
They clearly don't look anything like their parents, so
like they're clearly notbiologically related to these
people yes, and I think at thispoint it jumps to, like you know
, they're six or seven orsomething, and that's where they
have, like these gray outfits,like you said, the like perfect
blonde hair and they walk inlike a weird like two lines four

(45:49):
by four, but it's really likethree by four yeah, because
david doesn't have a pair.

Captain (45:55):
Yeah, so it's it's four .
No, sorry, it's five boys andfour girls.
No, yeah okay, yeah, there were10 kids, okay, they were
supposed to be 10, yeah, um, andat this point, yeah.
So they walk around town likethat a lot, like it's very
creepy.

Wilson (46:09):
And then you get the scene of david looking for his
stillbirth baby partner becauseit can like the, because these
kids clearly have like some sortof telepathy and they're like
advanced knowledge and he knowshe was supposed to have a pair.

Captain (46:24):
Yeah, he says I was looking for my mate or my pair
or something, and even his mom.
So these kids clearly scaretheir parents, except David who
doesn't have a mate.
His mom does actually love himand she is talking with Dr Allen
about it and was like what doyou mean pair, like mates?

(46:47):
And she's definitely I don'tknow.
She definitely cares about himin a more motherly way.
But these children should notbe trusted.
Then you get the scene of themkilling the drunk maintenance
guy at the school.

Wilson (47:03):
Yeah, and their eyes go like so I feel like the lowest
intensity for their eye power islike green or something.

Captain (47:14):
And then when they're like really mad.

Wilson (47:15):
it turns like white and then red, or like red and then
white.

Captain (47:19):
I love that you were tracking this.
I was not tracking that at all.
I think they were like I don'tknow.
I was like they're just playingwith fun colors.

Wilson (47:25):
Yeah, I think red is like when they're pissed.

Captain (47:31):
Because he hits one of them with the broom.

Wilson (47:33):
Yes, he didn't necessarily mean to, but he
wasn't mad about it either.

Captain (47:38):
He was yelling at him.
Yeah, so they basically likeforced these people to kill
themselves this was brutal,because they make him climb up
to the top of a building andthen fall on his broom to, like,
stab himself yeah it was roughyes, um, oh that.

Wilson (47:57):
Uh, before we got too far, david, this is an actor we
did not cover in the actorsection.
This is like a B-list actor now.

Captain (48:04):
Wait, David.

Wilson (48:08):
Yeah.

Captain (48:08):
Thomas Decker the fuck he's been in stuff.
I thought one of the kids notDavid, but one of them looked
like the Sprouse brothers, theone that was hit with the broom.
He looked like Billy and Dylan.

Wilson (48:23):
Sprouse, but the timeline doesn't work out.

Captain (48:25):
No, not quite Close, but not quite yeah, Because this
was in 95 and those kids werelike Maybe 10, right.

Wilson (48:34):
Yeah, however, yeah.

Captain (48:36):
Yeah, Anyway, who's what did you say his name was?

Wilson (48:40):
Thomas Decker D-E-K-K-E-R.
Oh, K-K K, I don't know himWell I know him from Heroes,
which you decided you didn'tlike.

Captain (48:58):
Wilson, it wasn't that good I wanted it to be.

Wilson (49:00):
I really did yeah I don't recognize him uh, well, it
looks like he did like land,but sorry, land before time.
Voices like oh, okay, then Idefinitely should recognize him
he did a little foot's voice inland before time five I do fuck

(49:22):
with little foot okay yeah,looks like he did original he
did late little foot, I guess,so he did movie five through
third.
Uh, sorry, 13.

Captain (49:36):
I was like I missed some, sorry.

Wilson (49:39):
No, no, no, no.

Captain (49:42):
Yeah, I definitely watched Land Before Time one
through four a lot more than anyof the others.
Those are the OG ones.

Wilson (49:50):
I think I've seen a Land Before Time.
Yeah, you're very not in theknow when it comes to kids
movies, which I like, kidsmovies, but like I guess, I just
you're hearing it first, rightnow uh, yeah, I don't know, I
just watched other ones um, yeah, so where they killed, killed

(50:12):
the maintenance dude.
And this is where, like, thedoctor is conflicted, because Dr
Verner wants Dr Allen to teachthe kids humanity.
And he's like they're evil.
I'm not doing that.

Captain (50:30):
Yeah, but when they have that discussion, Dr Verner
explains to him that this hashappened before.
They are not the only ones.
She says it's always in aremote community, small town
like an hour outside ofAnchorage, Alaska, or like some
I can't remember the other oneshe mentioned, but it was like
outside of the US but it's likethey have a large number of

(50:53):
sudden births after a blackout.
They have a large number ofsudden births after a blackout
and she thinks that theoffspring are usually unrelated
to their parent, more like theirparent is a host.
But she wants to understandthem more because she didn't get
a lot of information about theother towns this happened to.

Wilson (51:14):
She does, I think, show Alan the alien body she does,
but she also tells them thegovernment blows up these towns
oh did she yeah, I think shesaid well, maybe not quite here,
but she she's sharing a warningbecause she's like, once they
get out of control, thegovernment blows up the town.

(51:35):
So you need to get out of here.

Captain (51:38):
I thought later on in the movie she says that.
But she says it almost as ifshe just now realized like, oh
my gosh, this town's like Idon't know.

Wilson (51:48):
She's a terrible doctor if she just now realized that,
like eight years later.

Captain (51:54):
But yeah.
So then, yeah, you're right.
Eight years later, um, but yeah.
So then, yeah, you're right,the alan was like kind of
teaching them, but the children,it's like the children I don't
know they're not children, butthey were like we've decided to
live in a barn together becausethey're tired of living with
their parents yeah, and but atthis point, uh, dr alan has
agreed to try to teach themhumanity, because he kind of

(52:16):
sees it in David.
Yeah, david does have a littlebit, yeah.
And then what they kill?
They kill another father, is itBen?
They kill one of them.

Wilson (52:28):
Yeah, and they also end up killing the pastor.

Captain (52:34):
Yes.
And then Allen is like, heconfronts them, the children.
He's like fuck this.
He's like why don't you feelanything, you don't have any
emotions?
Why, what is your species?
And they basically say whywould you deal with, why would
you live life with uselessemotions with?

(53:00):
Why would you live life withlike useless emotions?
Um like.
And then he says why, when?
Why can't we just live likeside by side, like symbolic.

Wilson (53:05):
Oh my gosh, what's that word?

Captain (53:05):
uh yeah and they were like ew, we would dominate you
and you're useless yeahbasically um, and then it just
gets real crazy, like there's ashootout or something yes, oh
mark hamill dies, I think Ithink his wife dies because
she's like pissed because hedied because he did try to like

(53:29):
sniper a kid or something.

Wilson (53:32):
Yeah, um, yeah.
And at this point so Dr Allenwas thinking he could help the
kids but then he realized theyneeded to die.
So in this scene where he'stalking with the main girl, Jill
, I think.
I guess this is his daughterJill his daughter oh, oh oh,

(53:55):
those people, the aliens oh yeah, jill, her name's jill no, jill
is like the.

Captain (54:04):
The woman that dr allen hit her is his love interest
what's the um, the name of themain?
Uh child, uh I didn't get anyof the kids names besides david
he says her name like 60 timesum he does yeah, because she's
like the leader just call herleader.

(54:24):
I don't know what hold on.

Wilson (54:27):
I need the name I didn't catch it.
You would try you wouldrecognize it it was mara oh,
okay, that's fair, I do remember, okay, well, anyway, so when
he's having that discussion withmara, what he was actually
doing was bringing explosives inhis briefcase and he's trying
to get david to sneak out, butkeep the kids in there yes, and

(54:51):
keep the kids in there so theyexplode, and before he explodes
them.

Captain (54:56):
We see them confront Dr Werner and they get to see
their stillbirth sibling.
Not all of them.
There's only like three of themin there.
I'm not really sure why theysplit up, but then they make her
slice herself open from likebelly button to neck, so she's

(55:17):
out of here with turquoise orred eyes, I don't know.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Wilson (55:23):
I kind of forgot she died, but it was just another
gruesome one, like they were mad.

Captain (55:29):
So they were like we're going to make her supper.

Wilson (55:31):
Yes, but anyway.
Yeah, so they're back in thisbarn.
The shootout happened outside.
And then these kids likethere's a visualization of Mara
trying to get inside of thedoctor's brain to see what he's
hiding.
So there's like visualizationsof like a brick wall that she's
like chipping away at.
So at the last second shebreaks through and sees that he

(55:54):
was hiding his thoughts aboutthe bomb While she's doing this.
This is where her face does thefull color.

Captain (56:03):
The whole face glows.

Wilson (56:04):
It's alien-y-ish.

Captain (56:06):
Yeah, her skin is translucent with how much light
is coming through.
And it's definitely not a humanbody.

Wilson (56:13):
Yeah.
So anyway, she realizes it'stoo late.
It's a bomb, the shed explodes,the children are gone, and so
is Dr Allen.

Captain (56:21):
But Jill and David got out of there, even though Allen,
yeah, he blows them up, but heblows himself up too.
Can we talk about the shootoutscene?
So, before he blows them up,the cops come and they're
shooting out the alien kids.
Dude, that shootout scene wasfucking wild.
Like at the end there are likea dozen cops and military people

(56:44):
that those kids killed.

Wilson (56:45):
Yeah.

Captain (56:56):
Like I was not expecting the explosive budget
for this movie and I was notexpecting a fucking shootout,
like I know.
It was like, uh, like evilchildren.
But what is this action moviethat I'm watching all of a
sudden?

Wilson (57:01):
I want to see that.
This action scene got meexcited like I want to see a
remake of this so bad, with likea higher budget, just like evil
kids doing crazy shit soundslike a really good time that's
fair.

Captain (57:14):
I they could do the eye scene better.
They do a lot of eye stuff,which is it looks fine, but it
could be better like the mostin-depth one was when they have
that um person, whatophthalmologist examining their
eyes and she like she fucked upwhat the fuck?
Why does she have super glueright next to the eye?

Wilson (57:33):
well, yeah, I don't know what this eye poison stuff is,
but why would it ever be in aneye capsule?
It?

Captain (57:38):
looked.
It looked like glue to me, likeI thought it was like super
glue, but like it wouldliterally never exist in an
optimal, especially right nextto the eye drops.

Wilson (57:48):
Um, but yeah, she got fucked up yeah, yeah, I mean I
don't blame the kids in thatsituation.
Obviously it was a mistake, butyou did almost blind a child.
I think if they were to remakethis movie, they would not give
the kids the glowing eyes, Ithink they would, oh really.
I feel like they would thinkthat's too cheap, even though I

(58:12):
want the glowing eyes.
So I'll be mad if it doesn'thappen.

Captain (58:15):
Yeah, they could probably do it, but, yeah, the
movie just ends with Jillgetting David out safely because
he does have a wee bit ofempathy and human emotions.
At one point, mara even tellshim he is quote unquote less
useful and concerning, but theycan't leave him behind.
Less useful and concerning, butthey can't leave him behind.

(58:37):
Like they tell him, like wecan't just like leave you behind
even though you don't have amate and you're like a little
human I'm like damn this this,this little actress.
She's pretty good, she playslike yeah, where is she now?

Wilson (58:50):
actually.
Well, I uh, I stalked herinstagram this week because I
was like I wonder what she does.
So she doesn't act in a bunch,but she does reference this
movie, sometimes Lindsay Hahn,h-a-u-n.

(59:11):
I wasn't sure if it was her atfirst, and then I saw her mouth
and I was like like I wasn'tsure if it was her at first, and
then I saw her mouth and I waslike that.
I remember that girl had like a, a natural, just like grimace,
I don't know.
I feel like she has adistinctive smile and as soon as
I saw the picture I was like,yep, that's her is she a public
account?
Yeah.

Captain (59:29):
Like normal weight.

Wilson (59:32):
Yeah Well with an E.

Captain (59:34):
L-I-N-D-S-E-Y-H-U-A-N.

Wilson (59:38):
H-A-U-N.

Captain (59:40):
Oh.

Wilson (59:42):
She's blonde.

Captain (59:44):
Oh, I see her, I see you girl.

Wilson (59:47):
I see you.

Captain (59:48):
Oh, I see the face, the smile yeah.

Wilson (59:50):
Yeah.

Captain (59:53):
She said that her.
Did you see her bio that?
Yes, that's a picture of myplacenta on the Wikipedia entry
for placenta.

Wilson (01:00:01):
I did and I went and like looked at the picture and I
was like okay.

Captain (01:00:06):
Does it just look like a human placenta?

Wilson (01:00:08):
Yeah, it looks like a freshly birthed human placenta,
okay, Great Good to know.
I was just I was expecting whenI saw the picture be like uh,
you know.

Captain (01:00:19):
Source lindsey hahn or like her face in the corner,
like pointing yeah, like, yeahum, but no, uh, wait.

Wilson (01:00:32):
Okay, so before I guess I get in the num nums, did you
have anything else?
I know you, you wanted torevisit that scene, but was
there anything else you want totouch?

Captain (01:00:40):
on the other question I had.
So like for me the biggestproblem with this movie is like,
okay, they maybe technology wasdifferent in 1995, like I don't
know.
But like wouldn't youimmediately, at least when I get
a paternity test, like, likewhen they're babies, you know,
it's not obvious that they'renot related to you, but I feel

(01:01:01):
like a lot of the fathers areconcerned, like ben, and I'm
like wouldn't the first thingyou want to do is like get that
checked out.
And dr verner even says likethey did some tests, whatever
the fuck that means, but they'reinconclusive.
And I'm like what maternitytests are not like?
Those are not inconclusive.
Those are very clear.
Like you have dna, the baby hasdna.

(01:01:22):
I don't know.

Wilson (01:01:25):
It's just like why that would be the first thing you
would do, like I don't know whythat I don't know I yeah, I
think it just needs more time,like I really think this movie
would be a good miniseries, likenot enough for a feature film,
but like a miniseries would letyou get these like answers to

(01:01:45):
questions that yeah, this hasgot to make more sense in the
book.
I feel like Well, now I thinkwe should both read it.
You read books, I read terriblebooks you read.

Captain (01:01:58):
Wow, we have so much in common.
A village, let me see A village.
I'm trying to see if it's.
I'm trying to see how long thisis.
This is a book, right?

Wilson (01:02:14):
The book is called the Midwich Cuckoos.

Captain (01:02:17):
Oh, fuck me Okay.
Why Are you lying to me?

Wilson (01:02:23):
No, I looked at it because when I clicked on the
Wikipedia article it said basedon the 1960 movie.
I clicked on that and it saidbased on the 1957 novel the
Midwich Cuckoos.

Captain (01:02:38):
With K-O-O or C-O-O.

Wilson (01:02:41):
C-U-C-K-O-O-S.

Captain (01:02:44):
Oh God.

Wilson (01:02:44):
I know.

Captain (01:02:48):
I forgot how to spell cuckoos.
I don't ever spell that word.
Oh, is it like a short story?
That's like in a book of othershort stories, uh, couldn't tell
you also, apparently there wasa mini series oh, is that what
was the one that looked likenewer?

Wilson (01:03:07):
maybe um how many pages this book?
Sorry, I'm getting distractedum I can't tell so it's a
british show.
There were seven episodes from2022.

Captain (01:03:22):
I told you it looked brand new.
It was like when I typed it inmy tv.

Wilson (01:03:26):
I think you'd like it well, shit, okay, hold on, let
me.

Captain (01:03:29):
I'm gonna add this to my list whilst I'm thinking
about it whilst, I don't know ifthat's a word oh, the mid-rich
cuckoos has um good reviews whatwe're missing out on a good
show it actually has, like the,I mean for a like horror sci-fi,

(01:03:51):
like a 73 and a 58, like that'spretty good.
How is this not?

Wilson (01:03:57):
I'm going to watch the shit out of this.

Captain (01:04:01):
Oh, do you have AMC Plus?

Wilson (01:04:04):
No, but I need to get it to watch the season of From.

Captain (01:04:08):
Oh, I know.

Wilson (01:04:10):
I know, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, sorry.
You told me they answered a lotmore questions, or something.
It does actually, which is nice.
Um, okay, we're getting reallydistracted.
But um, yeah, okay, we do youwant to go to the num nums?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's do itall right.
So the budget for this movie itmade $9.4 million.

Captain (01:04:35):
Not a banger no.

Wilson (01:04:38):
So, rotten Tomatoes, the critic score was 28.
Oh, and the audience score isalso 28.

Captain (01:04:46):
Wow, it's nice to see an agreement.

Wilson (01:04:52):
Letterboxd says it's three out of five stars, which I
don't know, how that's verygenerous, accurate, that is um,
because I could have sworn whenI looked at the stars when I
rated this movie and I'm I'mchecking I.

Captain (01:05:09):
I saw your rating but I don't know how I see the
general.
Do I have to go up?
You have to like how do I see?

Wilson (01:05:14):
the general.
Do I have to go up?
How do?

Captain (01:05:15):
I see the general.

Wilson (01:05:16):
I fucking this app's dumb you have to click the cover
art or whatever oh, 2.8 is thatyeah, so okay, I hate chat GPT
honestly okay yeah it's 2.8 outof5.
The original movie though it'sget this.

Captain (01:05:34):
It's a 93 critic, 78 audience have you ever seen the
one from the 60s?
No I feel like this.
It's one of those movies where,like, if we're watching it with
today's lens though like wewould not it would not be a 93.

Wilson (01:05:49):
There's no way I don't know, I don't know well, okay,
what's the?
Let's see what the letterbox is.
Oh, you know what?
I wonder if ChatGBT told me therating for that version.

Captain (01:06:04):
No, I think the new one's 28.
It looks like the new one's 28.

Wilson (01:06:08):
Oh yeah, the old one's 3.6, so it's pretty good.

Captain (01:06:11):
I mean 1960, dude, that's like forever ago.
Dare me to watch it and I might.
I feel like you would without adare their eyes are even
glowing in it too do you thinkyour parents watched the city at
some point?

Wilson (01:06:25):
they probably saw the 1995 one.
That's probably where I saw it.

Captain (01:06:31):
I don't know wait, this city has a sequel in 1964.
Now, then in 1964, there'schildren of the damned, which
looks like it's a sequel youknow how much that would confuse
me with children of the cornyeah, that's even worse than

(01:06:52):
village of the damned.
Okay, sorry.

Wilson (01:06:55):
Well, these are hot gooses, oh oh, yeah, yeah, okay,
so I can go into.
Uh, that was the numbers.
Um, all right, hot goose.
Um, this movie was filmed onlike one of, or the area around
john, one of john carpenter'shomes, but the locals weren't
happy about him doing that, soit got a lot of harassment and

(01:07:18):
vandalism.

Captain (01:07:20):
There was a different movie.
Was that Children of the Corn?
That also there was likevandalism or something.

Wilson (01:07:26):
I don't know.

Captain (01:07:27):
I can't remember, I can't either.

Wilson (01:07:34):
Okay, so this was the final film thatopher reeve was
in before his horse ridingaccident oh, I did read that.
Yeah, that's true, yeah becauselooks like the accident was the
same year this movie wasreleased yikes, he was paralyzed
from like the waist down orneck down or something I believe
the neck down oh god yeah,horses yeah.

Captain (01:07:54):
Horses are scary.
I would not get involved with ahorse.

Wilson (01:08:00):
Let's see.
I don't know if the other hotgoss is really goss.

Captain (01:08:07):
Really.

Wilson (01:08:10):
I mean it says John Carpenter met the director of
the original one For drinks.
Oh, two of the male childrenwere played by female actors.

Captain (01:08:24):
What.

Wilson (01:08:24):
That's what it says.

Captain (01:08:28):
I don't know how that's they looked like Boy.
I guess I didn't really do afull physical, but I don't know
how that's they looked like Boy.
I guess I didn't really do afull physical, but I don't know.
They looked like five boys.
I mean, the girls definitelyhad wigs on, I don't know.

Wilson (01:08:47):
Yeah, I think the boys did too.
But yeah, the wigs were prettygratuitous.
I mean, I don't expect them toactually bleach small children's
hair.

Captain (01:08:58):
No, but those bobs were dry and plasticky, yeah, okay.
Well, it sounds like you don'thave a ton of hot goose.
I mean, what are your thoughts?
What did you feel?
Did you have a rag?

Wilson (01:09:20):
So I do have some nostalgic connection, this movie
.
I just I saw it when I wasreally young, freaked me out
once, twice, three times um.
I think the movie is fun for,like I don't know, I'm I'm glad
you warned me.

Captain (01:09:35):
It was campy.
I think I would have had adifferent.
I think I.
It's good to know uh yeah.

Wilson (01:09:44):
So I'll say, rating wise , I'll give it like a 40 yeah, I
saw.

Captain (01:09:50):
I thought you gave it a higher score on letterbox, I
think.

Wilson (01:09:52):
I gave it a two and a half out of five and I I gave it
a two and a half out of fiveand I liked it or whatever.

Captain (01:10:00):
I don't fucking know what that means.
I also I gave this two starsout of five.
There is a plot, there is astory.
Like I said, there's not a lotof a story.
We don't get answers as to whothese children are, which I wish
we got.
That really takes a lot of itaway.

(01:10:20):
So, yeah, and there's just likenot a big story.
So, yeah, I would say it's likeI'm gonna give it a little bit
more.
I'm gonna give it like a 38.
Okay, 38%, that's my finalscore.

Wilson (01:10:35):
That's pretty close to yeah.
Okay, that's pretty good.

Captain (01:10:39):
Um, and my razor glass I didn't actually, I picked one
already do you want to go withyours and I'll think about mine
okay, mine was okay.
After they fainted for six hoursat the fair, they were like all
waking up and they're all like,oh, what's going on?
And then some of them arehugging each other because
they're like, oh, I'm so scaredand it's nice that we lived

(01:11:01):
through this together.
They pan over to the guy thatwas grilling and he fainted on
the grill so he's burnt to acrisp because he was grilling
himself for six hours.
And it shouldn't be that funny.
Except when you watch the movieit's like very campy, like it's
done campy, so it's like veryfunny to see.

(01:11:22):
And obviously it's like someonescreams or whatever.
But um, it like actually mademe chuckle a little.
So that's my um razor, razorglass.

Wilson (01:11:30):
He like cooked himself that was a good one.
Uh, I think sort of my razorglass.
I would say in general is mara.
She was like a boss ass bitchum, okay but the scene with the
guy driving his truck.

Captain (01:11:46):
Actually I think it was ben uh, he just like drives
straight into it an enormouslike propane tank and explodes
oh yeah, towards the end therehe was like hypnotized to do
that right yeah yeah, that thatpropane tank was comically large
and it was literally four feetfrom a roadway like it would

(01:12:06):
never be they would never putthat there.
No like literally never.
Um, but yeah, he was justhypnotized to yeet himself into
it.
Um, that was good.
So collectively, the body countfor these children has got to
be like in the 20s it's prettypretty high like it's a lot.

(01:12:27):
It's like john wick levelscollectively.
Basically, john Wick levelscollectively.

Wilson (01:12:32):
Basically.

Captain (01:12:34):
Yeah, I would not recommend, though I'm going to
be honest, damn okay.

Wilson (01:12:40):
I think I'd recommend it for a little.
Like you know, if you want asci-fi movie night, sci-fi
channel movie night.

Captain (01:12:48):
I think the I have a feeling the miniseries is
actually probably really goodand I probably would recommend
that.

Wilson (01:12:54):
I might check it out, might you haven't watched it yet
?
Yeah, I'm gonna watch it.
I'm gonna put on the list.
Yeah, put on the old list okayum, I don't.
I think that's all I got forthis one yeah, I can tell you.

Captain (01:13:07):
Next week, though, we're doing our cookie movie of
the season.
We're doing this one waschopping yeah, it was a little,
but like my official cookiemovie of the season, we're doing
chopping mall, a classic, akiller shopping mall.
Um, do you have any advice forme based on this movie?

Wilson (01:13:28):
I did write something down but I wouldn't say it's
like fun um, I could just likequote that meme fuck them kids
and fuck you too that was notour advice, like the last two
movies ago it's a recurringtheme fuck them kids and fuck
you I um, you can, that's fine.

Captain (01:13:49):
I I just said like if you're inseminated against your
will, like you probablyshouldn't have that baby.

Wilson (01:13:56):
Mm, wise words, but who knows?