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Ever wondered what it's like to be doused in fake blood while singing along to a musical? Join us as we recount our wild adventure at a live performance of "Evil Dead: The Musical," where the thrill of dodging sprays of fake gore added a whole new layer of fun. 

Switching scenes from stage to screen, we dive into the stormy seas of a 1999 sci-fi thriller, where Jamie Lee Curtis and Billy Baldwin face off against mysterious forces on a ghostly Russian vessel. This episode teems with suspense, as we dissect the blend of CGI and practical effects that create its eerie atmosphere. From jaw-dropping plot twists to the film's puzzling ratings, we discuss whether this cult classic deserves a modern reboot and share a few laughs over the film’s quirkiest moments.

Finally, we set sail on a critique of the chaotic events and special effects of the same sci-fi flick, pondering its bizarre yet progressive elements. As we muse on potential casting choices for a remake, our conversation weaves through memorable movie lines and plans for our next cinematic adventure. With a sprinkle of humor and a nod to nostalgia, this episode promises an entertaining experience for theater buffs and film enthusiasts alike.

Episode Transcript

Captain (00:15):
they don't know what hit them.
Okay, I would do want to hearabout this tea, um, and what you
have written here in the notesis not helpful.

Wilson (00:28):
I know it's enough to make me remember, but not give
it away to you, which was thepoint.
Uh, so um, uh, you know evildead right yeah yeah, have you
seen?
Was it just through the remakesor have you seen the original?
the originals are with brucecampbell being like chainsaw-y
yeah yes those are the ones I'vemostly seen honestly okay, so

(00:53):
we recently watched uh, theoriginal one and two, um, in
preparation for we went and sawa, an evil dead musical, last
weekend what yeah, so it was.
It was presented by like alocal theater, but it was in a
parking lot under a canopybecause they sprayed blood like
all over the audience.

(01:13):
Uh, we were not in the splashzone on purpose, but, um, it was
really good really yeah, I gota sweater for it and honestly I
should have worn that, but itwas really cool.

Captain (01:34):
Is it like, okay, I've heard that they do a lot of like
those live audience like RockyHorror Picture Show.
Was it kind of like that?

Wilson (01:38):
or not so interactive, so I haven't gone to one of
those.
Yet I have heard, yeah, I feellike every city does like a
Rocky Horror Picture Showperformance.
Yet I have heard, yeah, I feellike every city does like a
rocky horror picture showperformance.
Um, but it I mean I don't knowhow much they interact with the
audience, but I mean it feltreally personal and I think the
blood really made it personal.
I know a lot of people hadwhite t-shirts on just in
preparation to get it likestained with blood was it um?

Captain (02:01):
are you like, are you like sitting in folding chairs?
Or like, how is so there?

Wilson (02:06):
was like some of it I couldn't see because, like the
audience wasn't uh at an angleoh um but overall it was really
good how many people go tosomething like that?
I mean, I would say, I don'tknow, at least 100 people were
there what I.
I think so yeah.
Whoa yeah, so they're doing itfor about a month and apparently

(02:31):
they've done it since 2017.
It's only Evil Dead or they dodifferent ones.
I mean the theater company I'msure does other musicals or
others plays.

Captain (02:43):
Outside.
I only know about this one theymust.

Wilson (02:47):
They probably do it like for other things too.
That seems like a lot of effortjust for this, you know, for a
month every year well, that'sexciting yeah, it was really
cool so if you get an,opportunity.

Captain (03:00):
Check one out um, yeah, I feel like we have local
theater theaters that have, likethespian troops, but I don't
think they do anything like that, but yeah, we?

Wilson (03:12):
we found it by accident because, um, finn's parents were
visiting one of the otherweekends and we were looking for
, like, uh, something we couldtake them to.
Uh, we did not.
They would not have liked thatI was gonna say no, that's how
we found out about it I wasabout to say.

Captain (03:28):
I was like who are they ?
What?
no, no, no I mean, I feel likemy mom would maybe be interested
, but not my, not my dad, my, mymom.
The only reason I the most, thereason I first heard about the
rocky har live things wasbecause my mom said that she
loved going to this and she wasin like college or whatever,
like she would go with herfriends and like you know, yeah,

(03:49):
they're like spraying stuff atyou and you're like supposed to
scream with them when they'rewhen they scream and I don't
know it sounds really fun.
I want to go to one sometimeyeah, I know, but I I've even
I've seen like advertisementsfor them in places like in
multiple places, like differentcities, so I know they still do

(04:09):
stuff like that.

Wilson (04:10):
I remember them in college.
It was advertised like all thetime.
Maybe it's around holiday orHalloween, but I remember that
was a big thing.

Captain (04:18):
Christmas.

Wilson (04:19):
Yeah.

Captain (04:23):
OK, well, that's fun.
Now I'm like jelly sorry aboutit wow, wait.
So is that wait.
So is that a musical, or what'sthe musical?

Wilson (04:36):
oh yeah, so it was a musical too oh are they good
they actually were pretty good.
Yeah, like the, the whole castwas really good and the the
musical aspect added just a lotmore fun to it I wonder if, um,
that is like a professionaladaptation or they just like

(04:58):
made one I feel like, yeah, Idon't know, yeah, I don't know.

Captain (05:04):
A small theater troupe, making one would be really hard
.

Wilson (05:10):
Maybe they just have some really talented people.
But yeah, I don't know, I'venever written a play or a
musical.

Captain (05:17):
Wow, wow, I don't know, it doesn't really say say oh,
you looked it up.
Well, I just looked up evildead adaptation but it doesn't
really like.

Wilson (05:33):
Maybe I should say it like musical yeah, I feel like
that's the the keyword you mightneed wow, um, yeah, there's one
George Reinblatt.
Is that the creator?

Captain (05:49):
Oh, I think that's like the music.

Wilson (05:53):
The music is George.
Reinblatt.

Captain (05:56):
Yeah, he's the lyricist and the booker.
There seem to be like two verydifferent roles lyricist and the
booker.
According to they seem like twovery different roles.
He wrote the book that themusical is.
It says it's a book Like.

(06:16):
The musical is a book.
Do they call it a book Like ifit's a musical rewritten?
I have a lot of questions.
I don't understand.
Oh my gosh.
Type in evil dead the musical,and it's a rock musical based on

(06:37):
the evil dead franchise thatstarted in 2003, but it says.
But if I scroll down, it saysthe lyrics are by george
reinblatt and the book is bygeorge reinblatt okay I hear you
.
I hear you typing.

Wilson (06:54):
I mean like I hear you typing I'm looking it up, like I
believe you.

Captain (06:58):
I just don't understand and the music is by
georgeheinblatt okay, I thinkyou like.

Wilson (07:03):
Literally you can call it a book, I don't know to tell
you so you wrote the play, buthe also wrote the music in the
play yeah, I guess you can callthose books um he's an author
baby uh, I, I mean, I don't.

(07:25):
Maybe I recognize these songs.
I don't know right now ifthat's what they performed.

Captain (07:34):
Wow, I love that.
Variety said that the Evil Deadmusical should be a disaster,
but ironically it's self-awareof its jokes, so it all works.

Wilson (07:45):
Fair enough.
Yeah, I think that's the casewith, like I feel like you have
to.
The source material I feel likemakes fun of itself anyway.
So like I don't know.

Captain (07:57):
Oh, New York.
Times calls it the next RockyHorror Show.
I was right on the money.

Wilson (08:07):
I don't know if it's that good, but Damn.
Damn.
It was very good.

Captain (08:13):
Okay, well, fuck.

Wilson (08:15):
Shit.

Captain (08:17):
How much were Tiki's?
I want to go.

Wilson (08:20):
I think it was like 45 each.
Damn Damn it is not stillplaying whenever you're visiting
next.
So yeah, I think they stop inlike two weeks.

Captain (08:34):
Well, last?
No, that was this year.
Well, it was almost a year agonow.
But I mentioned to you that Iwent to Broadway in New York and
that shit is no joke.
So I get it Like I get whereyou that I went to Broadway in
New York and that shit is nojoke.
So I get it Like I get whereyou're coming from, like when
you see professionals, like beprofessional crazy.

Wilson (08:54):
I need to see a Broadway show.
It was the last time I was akid, so it's like I don't yeah.

Captain (09:01):
What's that song?
It's like something inManhattan.

Wilson (09:05):
Oh Naked in Manhattan by Chapel.

Captain (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like that.

Wilson (09:11):
Good news for you Evil Dead.
The musical was playing onOctober 18th by you.

Captain (09:17):
By your trip.

Wilson (09:20):
No, I think it's probably just another one, but
okay, it's not that close to you, but it's.
I don't know how to pronouncethis it's Haver-de-Grace,
Maryland.

Captain (09:29):
Haver-de-Grace, you act like you have not.
You definitely have been aroundthat area.

Wilson (09:35):
I've heard of it, but I forget how it sounded when I
heard it.

Captain (09:40):
I think people say Haver-de-Grace.

Wilson (09:45):
Like they kind of like blur it.
Okay, I mean, yeah, it lookslike they spray the audience.
If you're in the splash zone,yeah, I mean you should check it
out, it's in a week Nothingbetter than being in the splash
zone.

Captain (09:56):
Okay.

Wilson (09:56):
I'm going to send you a link to this.

Captain (09:59):
Yeah, just hit me with the link.

Wilson (10:01):
Yeah, yep, yep yep, all right, hit me with the link.

Captain (10:06):
yeah, yep, yep, yep um all right.

Wilson (10:07):
So I did have one other thing that I wanted to chat
about with you, completely offtopic from this.

Captain (10:11):
Well, we both finished evil.
Oh why did I think evil andcool shit was like part of the
musical?

Wilson (10:17):
no, sorry, um, we, so I, I was it.
It's either the halloweenepisode or the one before that
we talk about evil for like thefirst five minutes and while I
was listening to it I was likewe never like once say the title
of the show we're talking about.

Captain (10:33):
I know, yeah, I think that was.
Yes, I know that was like twoepisodes ago, bro, it's so bad.
Well, I think we talked aboutit.

Wilson (10:40):
You, it's like cut from the very beginning I think I had
to do that because there wasjust a bunch of junk at the
beginning that's fair.

Captain (10:49):
I feel like we really we do like to junk up the
beginnings yeah, yeah, but itwas a good discussion, so I kept
it.
Well, it was a good discussion,until I realized that, like I,
was a whole season behind um yesso yeah, I sped through that
because I was really excited andI didn't realize it came back.
I don't understand how everyseason of evil I feel like when

(11:10):
I watch it it gets justprogressively better.
I really liked that season.
Um, it was kind of sad at theend because you can tell they
were like trying to close it outbut I know and you can tell
that they're not happy about it,but I know, and they left it a
little open um did you hear howit that?

Wilson (11:28):
like maybe you already knew this, but so I had read
that, like you know, it's goingto come back for season four.
They got like 10 episodes andthen when they heard it was the
final season, paramount gavethem four episodes to wrap it up
.
So that's those last fourepisodes.

Captain (11:44):
That's like when they knew it was oh, that's why it's
like an awkward amount yeah,like it's more episodes than a
typical season yeah yeah, um,yeah.

Wilson (11:55):
So I'm gonna miss this show so much and I remember one
thing I wanted to talk to youabout is, uh, assuming you don't
skip the intro, the littlewarning messages they yes, I
love those.

Captain (12:05):
I love those so much.
They are so self-aware.
I love those messages.
I watched every single one andthe intro the intro is fire, so
like I'm not even that.

Wilson (12:14):
Oh it slaps, it's.

Captain (12:15):
I'm not, not mad about it at all.
Yeah, um, yeah yo.
My favorite episode from thatseason was the episode when that
woman comes to the what it wassomebody's funeral and she says

(12:35):
Spoiler, the mom is the mom'sfuneral.
Yes, yes, and she, she's like,secretly, she like divulges that
she's one of her daughters inthe future.
Oh my god, I loved, I lovedthat.

Wilson (12:52):
I was like, oh, x-files hit it that was, yeah, that was
some good drama that episode wasreally good.

Captain (13:01):
I love how they explain it.
Ben's like jinn is interesting,like that particle accelerator.
Part's interesting Like oh manand Leland.
The hatred for that man justnever ceases.

Wilson (13:20):
Like I can't stand that man.
There was like part of that.
I was like they didn't unpackthat.
A couple times Leland's bosswas like why are you protecting
her?

Captain (13:29):
I was like what.
Well, I guess they were goingto kill her a long time ago and
I guess he likes to kind of playwith her or tease her.
But I think there's also thisundertone that he kind of loves
her because he tried to get withher really early on, if you
remember, like early in the showtime for a rewatch, I don't

(13:50):
know.
There was like there were likescenes of him like kind of
coming on to her, I think, but Idon't know.

Wilson (13:56):
Um, my only complaint with how the show ended was one
it was a weird ending for, uh,her husband in the show.
He just like completelyswitched, like the type of like
his character switched basically, and then just disappeared

(14:17):
secretly a sleaze the whole time, I guess.
And then the very ending feltweird, but the very ending.

Captain (14:24):
I feel like they didn't know what to do because they
didn't want to end it.
But I think the idea we'resupposed to get is he's been
under Leland's control for along time secretly, so now he's
partially evil because he's notwho he is.
He's not who he was anymore.
He didn't do that mountain tripat all like that was just all

(14:46):
him sleeping in leland's closetyeah, but like, is he free of
that now?

Wilson (14:51):
so he's just like no, I think it's like because they
kind of they kind of talk about.

Captain (14:55):
Like when they do that like soul thingy with david,
it's like a piece of him's leftin there.
I feel like if you're around,if leland is doing like spooky
stuff with you, like seeds ofevil go to you I don't know
that's.

Wilson (15:10):
They didn't say that, but I feel like that's kind of
the gist the one of the thingsthat I, um, I like about the
show a lot is like.
I love any scene where thegirls all, like, start yelling
at the same time and they always, without fail, pick up some
piece of technology and use itexactly how you're not supposed
to.

Captain (15:30):
The ghost app thing is killing me.
I'm like put it down, Put itdown.

Wilson (15:36):
Oh my gosh.

Captain (15:38):
I really was laughing at what's her name?
Christine, what's her name?

Wilson (15:45):
Christine.

Captain (15:46):
What's her name?
Kristen, kristen At her beinglike screaming at them, like, so
help me, god, if you order moretoilet paper.
I just I don't know.
They do a really good job ofshowing like realistic chaos of
like a household with four kids.

Wilson (16:04):
Yeah, a lot of shows are very.
I'm going to miss her a lot.

Captain (16:06):
Yeah, yeah, but the show just seems more realistic
and it's not so line for linescripted.
So it's such a good show.
It's such a weird show.
I feel like there aren't a lotof shows that are like that and
I'm going to miss it a lot RIP.

Wilson (16:25):
I know At least it got four seasons.
Yeah, maybe it's chance it getsanother, but at this point I
think it's unlikely.

Captain (16:31):
Yeah, like I mean I, there was that thing there Like
I don't know.

Wilson (16:46):
I think they were like trying to tempt Netflix to
manifest that show that wasgoing to be canceled and it took
the fuck off on netflix.
So yeah, but I mean like ifnetflix takes it, they're gonna
do like maybe another season ortwo.
Yeah, I'll still take it, but Ithink they would do one more
season.

Captain (16:54):
But yeah, I mean, give them a little bit more time yeah
um, yeah, I really hope I seewell, not noteland, because I
never want to see that man.
He plays a villain so well.
But the other characters I'dlike to see them in other stuff.

Wilson (17:10):
Yes, I'd like I want to look up what Katja, what she
does otherwise, because I thinkat least I really liked her
character.

Captain (17:20):
Something about her character was like very charming
and I'd like, I don't know,wait the other thing that I love
from this season sorry, I justreminded you is that those
doppelgangers that they have,and her doppelganger is who she
really is, which is a.
Dutch musician speaking Dutchin Amsterdam and I was like, bro

(17:40):
, this is so cool.
Oh yeah, I loved that, lovedthat so much.

Wilson (17:45):
That was a nice little, a nice touch.
I don't know what you want tocall that, but yeah, no, I was
very excited to see that.
I don't know, they had fun umand I swear she makes me so
thirsty for mini cans ofmargaritas, like just, I don't
know, it's like her character'sthing and it just makes it look
so good she does drink them alot.

Captain (18:09):
Um, yeah, let me see, I don't see anything like very,
very recently besides evil.
Yeah, evil's the most recentthing she's done.
Damn, she was in westworld, Idon't remember that.

Wilson (18:24):
But I mean, she was the um.

Captain (18:26):
I remember looking this up, she wasn't in it very long,
but she was the daughter of theman in black oh in like season
one or two damn I think I do notremember that the only thing I
remember from watching westworldlike when it started, was like
either thinking everybody's arobot or nobody's a robot yeah,

(18:47):
did you watch the final season,or two?

Wilson (18:49):
no, no, no I watched like the second to last but I
heard it's just like it's justcompletely off the rails yeah,
that's what I figured.

Captain (18:58):
I mean, the story is good when it starts, but once
everything's divulged it it'slike okay.

Wilson (19:06):
I just sent you a picture of her in Westworld.
I don't know if it looksfamiliar at all.

Captain (19:12):
Why is it so tiny?
I think, you have to click onit.
Wow, shots fired.
Why are they so tiny?
That one got smaller.
I don't know what to tell youoh there we go.
I mean, I don't think thislooks familiar.

(19:33):
She just looks like Kristen.

Wilson (19:35):
I mean fair.
I think she dies.
I think the man in black justends up shooting her.

Captain (19:41):
Wow, shocker, shocker.
Okay, what's going on here?
Are you having um?

Wilson (19:47):
oh wait, you had a fun drink I do, I spiced it up this
week, okay.
So, um, in honor of well, it'stechnically after halloween, but
it is a fall, still fall timeframe it's spooky in here spooky
um.
So I'm having.
This is a rogue Brewery, isthat what it is?
Whatever it's called PumpkinPatch, ale Like, look at that.

(20:09):
Can Doesn't that look fun?

Captain (20:12):
Do you like pumpkin ale ?

Wilson (20:16):
It's not bad.

Captain (20:17):
And I need to drink it for festivity purposes.
Why does it look so differentin your cup?
It's well, because it's just,it's a dark beer, it's a malt, I
guess.
Oh, your sweater is making thedrink look like hella red oh
nope, it is just very and I waslike why, did.
Why is it that color?

Wilson (20:38):
it looks like um pomegranate oh no, I mean
pomegranate's fine, but um theoh.
But on the back it tells youlike what to pair, or like what
it pairs well with um.
So it says it's three thingsyou can try uh, butternut squash
soup, seared venison or orshortbread cookies.

(21:02):
I feel like it's such a widerange.

Captain (21:07):
Yeah, they should have like just one bullet that just
says like fall shit.

Wilson (21:13):
Fall shit yeah.

Captain (21:14):
Yeah.

Wilson (21:15):
Mashed potatoes.
I mean this would be a goodlike I'd drink this during, like
Thanksgiving dinner orsomething.

Captain (21:23):
There's nothing better than like that and you're like
sitting on a porch and it's likecrispy outside and it's like
right after dawn.

Wilson (21:33):
Right after dawn.

Captain (21:36):
Yeah, like early in the morning, I'm drinking a beer at
like 5 am.
Well, maybe it's more of likean Irish cream coffee situation
then.
Oh, that sounds nice so thendusk would be like that I mean,
if I'm on vacation, sure we cantry a 6 am.

Wilson (21:50):
So then dusk would be like that Dusk.
I mean, if I'm on vacation,sure we can try a 6 am.

Captain (21:56):
It's always vacation there we go.

Wilson (22:00):
It's always vacation somewhere.

Captain (22:02):
I'm not drinking that.
I have my fun Halloween koozie,but this is just a Slightly
Mighty.

Wilson (22:09):
But I do like that they changed their can.
Oh, it's Dogfish Head.

Captain (22:14):
Yeah.

Wilson (22:17):
I don't drink Dogfish Head.

Captain (22:20):
Why.

Wilson (22:22):
Aren't all their drinks either ciders or IPAs?

Captain (22:29):
What is that?

Wilson (22:38):
This is a L-i-p-a.
What does the l stand for lightit's a lipa.
It's a lipa does it actuallystand for light or you don't
know?

Captain (22:48):
it says light on here.
Why are you?

Wilson (22:49):
gaslighting me.
You said it like you weren'tsure no, it's light I just got a
text from finn asking if I'mslandering dogfish head he is.
He is slanderer I want, I wantto like dogfish head, but I just
I don't.
I don't feel like any of thedrinks appeal to me.

(23:11):
Well, try harder, Try harderWell so I do like Pump King,
which is an IPA.
I don't know if you've had that, but one of the places we go.
When they serve it, they putcinnamon sugar on the rim.

Captain (23:25):
Oh shit.
Oh shit, yeah, it's really good, I feel like Pump King is not
like.

Wilson (23:35):
I feel like that's not supposed to be for me, oh, but
you can drink like a dogfishhead, whatever lipa you have I
mean if there was like a pumpqueen, but okay, so you like?
You like pumpkin drinks, justnot um I don't know, I've.

Captain (23:52):
Oh, I actually have no idea um sometimes I think I like
them, but if they're likereally soury, it's like not my
favorite.
Interesting, I don't know.
I'm very like wishy-wash, I'mvery like random, except like
mango, yeah.

Wilson (24:12):
Or if it's like a pumpkin candle.

Captain (24:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah, Mostly any candle will get me.

Wilson (24:17):
Fair.

Captain (24:18):
Okay, are you ready?

Wilson (24:20):
Yeah, let's jump into this masterpiece.
Okay, that sounds sarcastic,but we're just going to jump in.
So welcome to the 160th episodeof the Red Rum Podcast, where
we review horror movies whileenjoying an adult beverage or
two.

Captain (24:37):
And I'm Captain.

Wilson (24:39):
And I'm Wilson, and this week we're reviewing the 1999
film Virus.
I did not fill that in.

Captain (24:47):
Wow, wow, but like what's its genre?

Wilson (24:50):
It's a science fiction horror film okay, that makes
sense yes, uh, all right, sojumping in the director.
Uh was directed by john brunooh, we don't talk about bruno we
don't talk about uh.
He's mostly known for his workas a visual effects artist,
which makes sense after nowseeing this movie.

Captain (25:11):
Yeah, checks all the boxes.

Wilson (25:13):
He contributed to films such as the Abyss, Terminator 2,
Judgment Day, True Lies andalso theme park attractions like
Terminator 2, 3D, Battle AcrossTime.

Captain (25:29):
You skipped over the fact that he won an Academy
Award.

Wilson (25:32):
Oh, okay, wait, do we know?
Oh for the Abyss.

Captain (25:37):
Yeah, is that what that says?
Okay, bitch.

Wilson (25:41):
Good for him.

Captain (25:42):
That's crazy.
Is the Abyss, that one thatthey always talk about as like
it was like the hardest thingever to shoot?

Wilson (25:49):
I think.
So I remember, like, I think, acouple people almost drowned
yeah, or like yeah, they were onthe verge of death.

Captain (25:55):
I, I wanted to watch this movie after I've heard
about it, but, like I, I stillhaven't haven't had the chance I
saw it once and it's good, um,but I think it is a lot.
I think it's supposed to bevery long I'm trying to see, but
I just see that it um mademoney it's 140 minutes so it's a

(26:18):
little long, but not crazy.

Wilson (26:21):
Um, but he did okay.
So looking at his visualeffects, uh, history like he's
been a lot of stuff.
He has a lot of good experience.
I mean there's like poltergeist, ghostbusters, fright night uh,
batman returns.

Captain (26:39):
Uh, alien versus predator, titanic, x-men 3,
avatar, twilight I can see allof those after like if this is
the precursor, the movie we justdid, like it, all that makes
sense the tracks.

Wilson (26:52):
Yeah, um, okay, so that's the director, so we'll
bop it in the cast.
Uh, so it starts.
Jamie lee curtis everyone'sfamiliar with her.
She's in halloween my girl mygirl uh everything everywhere
all at once.
Freaky friday, true lies um.
You also have one of thebaldwins, william baldwin.

(27:15):
I feel like he's not.

Captain (27:17):
He's like one of the lesser known baldwins um yes and
alec but he, he is servingbaldwin, I mean he's oh, oh yeah
I mean it.
It's copy-paste the faces.

Wilson (27:30):
Oh, absolutely so.
He's best known for Backdraftand Flatliners.
I think I've seen Flatliners, Idon't know what Backdraft is.

Captain (27:41):
Backdraft does not sound good.

Wilson (27:44):
No, it does not.

Captain (27:45):
He is married to Chyna Phillips which is one of the
members of the band Wilsonips uh, am I supposed to know who that
is?

Wilson (27:55):
they did the song hold on which is at the end of
bridesmaids.
You know that?

Captain (27:59):
um, I can't sing it, I'm not gonna try, but if you
heard it, you would uh okay, Irecognize.

Wilson (28:05):
Yeah, yeah, okay um, and then okay, so that's william
baldwin.
Uh, then we have donaldsutherland sir, sir what, what?

Captain (28:15):
the ratings for backdraft are like pretty good,
oh I thought you're gonna belike they're terrible no, I'm
like shook though.

Wilson (28:24):
Okay, sorry, shook it no , you're good, uh, okay.
So then we have donaldsutherland um.
I guess he was originallyfamous for mash he's the captain
in this movie, yeah yeah, um,he was an evasion of the body
snatchers.
He's in hunger games aspresident snow.
I mean, he has a very longfilmography does he always speak

(28:46):
like that?
Um like kind of like he's gotgoop uh I don't remember what he
sounded like in this movie, butI don't remember it sounding
different than what I oh my god,I'm used to him sounding like.

Captain (29:04):
Did he just died?

Wilson (29:07):
like when is just?
Like june oh, uh, I don't knowif I knew that.
If I did, I forgot how old?
Was he he was 88 wow, I can'timagine, born in 1935, like
you've seen a lot of change andhe's looked old as long as I've
been alive, so shots fired um.

(29:31):
I'm just I, I, I think it'sjust like if there's a, if they
play a character who is eithergrade early or I don't know like
, they just perpetually lookthat age to me is he is keifer,
his or what?
oh, I think keifer is his sonokay, because I've heard that
name too.

Captain (29:50):
I don't really know why , like I don't know what.

Wilson (29:53):
Yes, yes, keifer is his son.

Captain (29:55):
I just looked it up okay there are a couple other
kids, but wait, is keifer the 24guy, like the main 24.
Okay, that's why, because Itried that show keep dog okay,
what else we got?

Wilson (30:11):
what else we got?
Okay, so a couple more casts wehave uh joanna pacula who was
that?
So this was the uh the russianperson I found on the boat.
Yeah, um, so she does have alot hold that thought she does
have a long filmography.
I don't recognize most of thefilms, but I had to put this one
in here.
It was Silence of the Hams andit's a.

(30:32):
It's like a mockumentary not amockumentary, but like a, a
spoof of Silence of the Hams itsounds amazing.

Captain (30:41):
Is she actually?
Is she American like in reallife?

Wilson (30:44):
no, she's Polish, I believe okay, okay, wow.
Joanna, yes, I just confirmed,she is bro, this movie looks
hilarious and I've barely lookedat it okay, I'm gonna keep a
tab open for it so I can likelook it up later and see if it's
worth watching okay oh, it hasBilly Zane in it.

Captain (31:07):
Alright, alright yeah, why do I know him?
He's in a bunch of shit, but hewas in Titanic.

Wilson (31:11):
he was like the guy that Billy Zane in it.
Alright, yeah, why do I knowhim?
He's in a bunch of shit, but hewas in Titanic.
He was like the guy that Rosewas engaged to.
Yeah, okay, so then we haveMarshall Bell.
You'd recognize him.
He's known for Nightmare on ElmStreet 2,.

Captain (31:25):
Stand by Me.
Which one is he in this movie?

Wilson (31:36):
You're supposed to say the person.
They're playing this character.

Captain (31:38):
Oh, he played the guy that got like punched through
and then thrown across the room.
The whiny guy, yeah, with anail gun.
Yeah, yeah, yep, yep.

Wilson (31:44):
They said his name, but I can't remember what it was oh
yeah, I guess I didn't put thosein here, but I didn't really
catch any of their names besidessqueaky, so okay, that's not
true.
They say most of their names,they say all the names, but
squeaky is the only one that I'mlike I know what they're
talking about.
It's squeaky, you know yeah, um,so he was also in twins, total

(32:05):
recall and starship troopers.
Um, then we have cliff curtis.
He played the guy that.
Uh, he fell off the boatspoiler alert but he like into
the water and he had the tattooson his face yeah, I think it
was hiko, okay, that soundsright.
Um, he was in avatar 2.
He's gonna be in avatar 3.

(32:26):
He was in the fountain doctor,sleep, fear the walking dead.
He's like one of those facesthat you recognize from a lot of
things but you don't know hisname yeah, it's hard to
recognize him in here because hehas face tattoos as a character
.
I don't know what was going onwith that, but I'm.

Captain (32:41):
I thought he was supposed to be like a really bad
representation of nativeamerican, but maybe I just I've
never seen, I don don't likethat.
That's what I?
I don't know, yeah, but um.

Wilson (32:54):
And then we also have Julio Oscar, much, much so um.
He is a considered, a characteractor.

Captain (33:02):
Wait, which one is that ?
Is that Richie Uh?

Wilson (33:06):
yeah, hold on.
I just looked this up uh, no,that's squeaky.

Captain (33:15):
Oh man, squeaky wasn't in this for very long okay no,
he wasn't, but he's been a lotof stuff.

Wilson (33:19):
He was in like uh, bad boys, jurassic park 3 um miami
vice little miss sunshine grace,just like everyone else in the
world.

Captain (33:30):
Yeah, all of this stuff .

Wilson (33:32):
Yep yeah, so that's basically the cast.

Captain (33:39):
Yeah, you don't talk about Richie, but he's in
Stranger Things.

Wilson (33:44):
I clicked on every one that I could.

Captain (33:46):
Sherman Augustus.
He plays.

Wilson (33:51):
Lieutenant Colonel Jack.

Captain (33:53):
Sullivan in season four of stranger things and he's in
the into the badlands.
Richie has a big part in this.
That's why I wanted to look himup why are you making that face
?

Wilson (34:02):
who's richie?
Which one is he?

Captain (34:04):
richie, the guy that was like gun happy, the one that
made the the chair.
At the end he said, like I'llsave you, go to the missile room
are we?

Wilson (34:13):
are we watching the same movie?
Wait, wasn't that williambaldwin?
Wasn't he the one that was like?

Captain (34:19):
I'll put you in the chair yeah, yeah, but the person
that rigged the chair oh, theone that was like off by himself
most of the time richie, richie.
I think his biggest credit wasthat he was in stranger things

(34:39):
recently.
But good for him okay, that's alot of people in this movie
yeah, uh, okay.

Wilson (34:47):
So jumping into the.
The movie itself.
Um, okay.
So the movie starts off witheveryone speaking russian and
you only get some of thesubtitles.
But basically it's like russianmilitary or something.
They're on a boat and they'recommunicating with um, like
russians in a space station yeahum, and then this like weird uh

(35:10):
space phenomenon hits the spacestation.
It gets all electrocuty andthen it sends a signal down to
the boat.

Captain (35:18):
The boat gets all electrocuty and then it like
cuts to seven days later well,the boat like explodes, like
there's like there's likeshattering, and then Nadia does
like a really there's like amicro scream queen situation.
Yes, it's like zappy, thoughEverything's like it's very

(35:38):
zappy.
And then yeah, then it cuts toseven days later.

Wilson (35:43):
So so when it cuts, seven days later we come to like
a little tugboat in the middleof the ocean and they're trying
to avoid a typhoon um oh, that'swhat that was and then they, um
, they like see on the radarthis boat that's not moving at
all.
So they're like well they're.

Captain (36:03):
They're looking for other boats because their boat's
like basically going under,like they.
They took on a bunch of waterand they're like sinking and
they're trying to fix it, butthey can't um, totally missed
that what it was like went onfor like eight minutes, bro.
I just I just thought they likesaw a boat and they're like
let's pillage it no, they werelike, we need help uh I don't

(36:25):
know that captain was prettythirsty for money well, he was
about to kill himself, likeliterally, he like had a gun to
his forehead which I don'tunderstand.
Like you, you go through likeone typhoon and you want to kill
yourself.
Like what?
But I guess he was an alcoholictoo.
Um, but there's like a lot oftime where jamie lee curtis's

(36:45):
character, foster, is likescreaming that we like need to
get this shit together.
You don't, you didn't catch anyof that I.

Wilson (36:52):
I remember her being the voice of reason.
I don't know why she is on thisboat.

Captain (36:56):
She does not belong there she said her dad's a
married time or something it'snot a good reason to like go on
the boat well, I think she likesit I don't know, but they
needed help.
So they like we're calling out.
But then they find this boatand it's abandoned.
So they decide pretty quicklythat once they see that it's

(37:18):
Russian and it's big, that theycan steal and then get money for
it.

Wilson (37:23):
Because if there's no one alive on the boat and it's
in the middle of the ocean, theycan basically sell it back to
the Russians for like 10% ofwhat the boat's worth and they
did the math.

Captain (37:34):
That's like 300 mil.
So splitting it they each wouldget like 30 mil, right?

Wilson (37:41):
yes, yeah, uh, well, no, not each.
I think total they would get 30mil because it's 10 of the
total cost.
So they would each get oh,they'd each get three.

Captain (37:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, math's hard yeah um, I wasn't.

Wilson (37:59):
I was like how are you coming up with these numbers?

Captain (38:01):
they're like they're just randomly estimating and
they're like mind blown, I don'tknow I mean, I think they're
all supposed to have like someshit background, so like they
know some stuff.
Now why would they know about,like Russian technology robots?
I couldn't fucking tell you,but I don't know.
That Richie guy, I think hesaid that he was like went to

(38:21):
war, so maybe he's like seensome shit.
I don't know.
Maybe, so, but I will say,though they do, even though they
make this plan, they have seensome weird shit on the boat
already, Like there are holesthat look like bullet holes and
there's like cables everywhere,and there's blood.

(38:42):
There's like blood, there's asmashed satellite saucer like
across one of the walkways, Likeit's not good in there and it
looks like uh, like there's likewhat do you call that area
where it's like the captain hiswheel is and it's like the
bridge yeah, so the bridge islike a, like a tornado went

(39:05):
through there.

Wilson (39:06):
Like stuff, shit, like shits everywhere yeah, but they
don't see any people.

Captain (39:10):
There's like well, yeah , yeah, so, yeah, I mean I get
it.
Whatever I mean, I will say,though, I I like the line.
So foster is always the voiceof reason.
Jamie lee curtis, and she'slike you know, although it's
like, this is technically likelegal, like mary tall, and law
says that you have to make sureyou don't find anybody.

(39:33):
You can't find anybody alive onthe ship, and the captain goes
well, let's hope we don't findanybody alive.
And she was like what the fuckdoes that mean?
And he goes well, it just meanswhat I said, and I was like
damn, he's ready to kill somepeople.

Wilson (39:46):
Is that like a real Maritime Law?
Because this seems like a badincentive to just kill everyone
on a boat.

Captain (39:51):
Yeah, I don't know.
I feel like that wouldn't be alaw.

Wilson (39:59):
But I mean I could try to like.
Look, I mean I don't like needto know, I'm just like seems
like asking for trouble.
So, anyway, they get down inthe engine room, they're like
the boat's off, so they turn iton.
Get down to the engine room,they're like the boat's off, so
they turn it on.
And then, after that happens,they notice the like okay, so
the tugboat is going in front ofthe boat because they're going

(40:19):
to pull this boat back to shoreto sell it.
So the tugboat's getting aposition.
And then in the bridge theynotice that the anchor activated
and it basically smashes thetugboat and it's's.
You know now?

Captain (40:35):
underwater.
Um, that was like a serioussmash.
That anchor like smashed in andthen, like the one guy was like
I can't swim, which is likefucking crazy.
The one guy's terrified to bein the water and he just ditches
him we did, yeah, we watchedthat.
We were like what is happening?

Wilson (40:54):
yeah, so anyway, they make it back on the boat.
Everyone's safe, the tugboat'sdestroyed.
And then, while they're fixingthe guy one, the one guy up in
the medical bay um, this iswhere we find one of the like
somebody pops out of a locker,starts shooting and that ends up
being Nadia, for whateverreason.

Captain (41:17):
Did you say that because there's somebody?
Was it at this time?
No, I think it's before theyeven get to the medical bay,
though they're under theimpression that somebody is
trying to sabotage the boat.
Um, because the anchor thatsunk the sea star and so they
tell squeaky to lock himself inthe control room so nobody else

(41:38):
can come in there yes and assoon as the russian, as soon as
nadia is like shooting at them.
It makes steve really nervousbecause squeaky's not answering
and so then he's like, oh shit.

Wilson (41:51):
And we see Squeaky basically get pulled away by
robot cables.

Captain (42:00):
He gets choked out by robot cables and then pulled
into whatever pipe that wasTubes, tubes.

Wilson (42:06):
And then later they come down to try to find him and the
door is welded shut.

Captain (42:11):
Yeah, can I just say, though they got shot at like
everything in the medical bayshattered.
Nobody got actually shot, whichis crazy, but they're so calm.

Wilson (42:23):
They're so calm as if they didn't just get shot out on
a boat in the water, and theydon't restrain her after that
either.

Captain (42:26):
Crazy, Crazy that there's no restraint afterwards.
I just could not get over that.
I was like this lady's not,we're not here for this, Okay
there is maritime salvage law Idid see, just FYI, and it does
basically say that you will berewarded for saving a ship

(42:49):
that's in peril, but I don'tnecessarily see.
Oh yeah, it says the vesselmust be in peril either
immediate or forthcoming and thesalver must be acting
voluntarily under nopre-existing contract and some
life or property must besuccessfully saved.
But I don't see anything aboutlike you can't find anybody

(43:11):
alive on board.

Wilson (43:12):
I think that part's not true okay, that is a good thing
um yeah, I know, I feel like itmight be different.

Captain (43:22):
If, uh, like I don't know it might.
It might be a different amountof reward whether there's life
or not.

Wilson (43:33):
But but I don't think they would incentivize.

Captain (43:37):
There's nothing there?
I don't think so.

Wilson (43:40):
Yeah exactly.

Captain (43:43):
I don't think so Okay.

Wilson (43:46):
Yeah.

Captain (43:46):
So wait, so so Nadia wakes, like when Nadia wakes up,
like they like knock her out,or so Nadia wakes up, they knock
her out, or whatever.
She wakes up and she comes toand I think she very quickly
tells us what's going on.
She says you don't understand,there's a thing on this boat and
it needs power to survive, sowe have to turn the power off.

(44:07):
That's why the power was off.
When they got on the boat shesaid there was 300 crew members
that either were like dead ordeserted.
Um, because like this thingthat's on the boat, it like
learns everything, scanseverything that's happening and
then takes over to be like akilling machine.
Um, that was like herexplanation for it.
Um, and then then I thinkfoster asked her more questions.

(44:31):
She was like something.
She explains that likesomething came on the boat
during the last transmission upto the space station.

Wilson (44:37):
It like zapped in and then it like just took over yeah
, and like of course, nobodybelieves her for a while they
just think she's crazy butmeanwhile, like the crew, split
up right.

Captain (44:50):
So like the people, that are like down in the power
room or whatever are, likethey're finding these little
robots and like they thinkthey're kind of cool at first.

Wilson (44:56):
Like they think they're kind of cool but, um, shortly
after that, um, I think they getattacked yeah, they get like
shot with a nail gun, uhattacked with like a drill, and
then they see somebody in theshadows shooting, which I think
is just another accomplice tonadia bro, bro, when that scene
at the end, when that nastyrobot walks in with like human

(45:23):
skin stretched across its little, uh, electronic machinery
pieces, jaw dropped, jaw drops.
I saw you were like I was notexpecting that.

Captain (45:34):
I was like why is this movie so fucking like?
I don't know?
I was just shocked, I don'tknow, I I was just surprised it
was good.
I was expecting somethingreally shitty and I was like
damn, scare me.

Wilson (45:50):
I mean, the effects were pretty good, Bro, this movie is
25 years old.

Captain (45:55):
The effects hold up.
What is happening, yeah?

Wilson (45:57):
There were a couple scenes where they do the robots
so big they do CGI.
It looks a little iffy but notterrible.

Captain (46:07):
Yeah, so big they do cgi.
It looks like a little iffy,but okay, not terrible.
Yeah, for what I would thinkcgi would be in 1999 wilson, it
looks really good.
Yeah, I mean, maybe I'm drunk,I don't fucking know, but it
looked good it did look good.

Wilson (46:16):
I think it's because a lot of it was practical effects
and they just held up well brunosnaps for bruno bruno.

Captain (46:23):
Thank you, john bruno um, yeah, so um nasty that like
big big robot with human skin.
Um yeah and then I think youget more explanation.
There's like some.
So foster and nadia are likegetting close, while like

(46:44):
there's other shit happening, Idon't know.
But we get more explanationfrom her that like she thinks it
is like uh, I think it's thatthey bring that robot.
They like bring it, they likeit comes into the room or
something or they oh, it's thecaptain oh yeah, yeah, alexi her
husband, but they like shot.
They like shot it down and likeso they have like half of him or

(47:06):
something, and remember they'relike investigating him yeah um,
and she like says, like it was,she thinks it's like this alien
thing that like isn't likenormal life as we know it, it's
like life made out ofelectricity and it's like really
smart and it can likebioengineer human stuff to like

(47:29):
work with its machinery whichsounds really scary if that was
like a real thing.
Um, but oh yeah.
And then she says like she, itstarted off small with like
little bitty robots, but then itlike kept building things and
it took her husband to make thislike half man, half robot thing
very like um, terminator Idon't know if terminator was

(47:52):
around the same time a goopierversion maybe much goopier.
Yes, yes was terminator beforethis.
It was right.
Yeah, that was like I think so.

Wilson (48:01):
Yeah, it was like several years before.

Captain (48:06):
Well, that's what it's giving.

Wilson (48:07):
And I think it was kind of cool.
So they obviously shot thecyborg thing and then a little
skeleton mini robot popped outof it.
It was like just the skull.

Captain (48:27):
Lots of fun.
Disgusting effects yeah, Iwasn't, as it's not like gory,
like the goreness of like youknow, like that's not really
there, but I mean it's on theedge.
I mean we'll say when they'relike, uh, poking in brain, I was
like get that off the fuckingscreen yeah, but there wasn't a
lot of like, like gushing bloodor like.
No.

Wilson (48:45):
It's like not exactly body horror, like it is a little
bit, but it's like it's on thecusp yeah.

Captain (48:51):
It kind of is like half Terminator, half like Jurassic
Park-y kind of Like which Iguess he did a lot of that stuff
, true, but that's kind of wherethat at, that's.
That's like in the same realm,um, but yeah, the the thing is,
though, like that guy that likehalf robot man thing was like I

(49:13):
don't know still partially alive, I'm not really sure, but they
like, okay, I will say richie isreally gun happy, like he'll
shoot literally anything, solike he shoots a lot in this
movie, and then I will.
It's like they're kind ofdealing with all of this, um,
you know, listening to nadiaexplain everything that happened
, and then on top of that it'slike, oh yeah, there's a storm
coming, like they're in the eyeof this huge typhoon so like as

(49:37):
soon as the, the storm movespast that, that, and they're not
in the eye anymore.
so like then they have to dealwith all of that, and that's
kind of like where the moviereally kind of takes a turn.

Wilson (49:47):
Yeah, but I think at this point the robots are
basically taking over the boatand steering it, so it doesn't
like capsize or whatever.
So I guess that's like onebonus.

Captain (49:58):
I mean I think they're still dealing.
I mean the storm's stillhappening.

Wilson (50:03):
Oh yeah, but I don't think the boat's In danger of
like capsizing.
I mean they're still in dangerof dying From robots.
Just a little.

Captain (50:13):
Well, like, but the waves that were happening, like,
I think that's how Hiko, hiko,what was that man's name?
That's still like.
Isn't that how he died?

Wilson (50:23):
Like waves yeah, he saved Foster.
And then he got swooped yeah hego.

Captain (50:28):
He got swooped by waves yeah, so, like you know, storms
can kill still oh yeah um, so Ithink, oh, we do find squeaky.
He's missing for a long timethat's around the same time that
they're trying to like escape,storm things, and I feel so bad.

(50:50):
I feel like steve's characterreally liked him, I really loved
him and he's like.
He looks like um, he's got likerobot monocles but like level 10
I don't know.
He's got one of his eyes aremissing and it's just robot.
Yeah, beep boop, yeah, um, andthe.

(51:15):
They do try one last mayday.
Right, richard tries one lastmayday.
And this is like the scene thatI fucking hated the most is
like the captain shooting themayday.
Uh, like the um stare the radioand being like nobody's gonna
take my salvage claim bro thatwas so annoying well yeah,

(51:38):
because then he makes a dealwith the robots I mean there's
nothing else.
I mean, well, I think his, Ithink he realizes his whole crew
is not behind him anymore, likethey're all like, they like
push him and they're like you'renot in charge anymore.

Wilson (51:52):
So he's like, well, fuck , I'm just gonna switch teams um
so he like made that deal, waslike how do I like?
I will get you to shore, I'llkeep you alive, what can I do
for you?

Captain (52:04):
and then the next scene he like walks in and he's, he's
a robot oh, I will say so hecan talk to this robot through
the computer, which is how theylike make this plan.
Okay, I will say um, beforethat they realize richie is like
a their tech guy, I guess.
So they realized that herealizes that he can talk to the

(52:26):
robot by typing into thecomputer.
So, um, he says, he says likewhat, who are you?
And the robot responds I amaware.
And then he says what do youwant?
And the robot says, um, you area virus.
They say.
He says like I'm aware you area virus.
Um, he says like I'm aware youare a virus.

(52:47):
Um, which I like love that thetitle of the movie is called
virus, thinking that it's therobot, but like in the robot's
mind or in the this electricmonster, alien mind, like the
humans are the virus.
I'm like slay, slay, slay, um.
But then it says he says whatdo you want?

(53:08):
And it's just like a list of,like very specific body parts.
And nadia says like yeah, it'slooking for spare parts to like
build these half human robotsagain.
And I was like, uh, like thisis a movie, this is good.
I was like damn scary Okay yes,so yeah then the captain takes

(53:30):
that tool and makes his own dealto like get to port which I
think he's still going to try tosalvage the ship.
But at least the robot, atleast the electric alien can
like go and destroy the rest ofthe human race.

Wilson (53:45):
Yes, but I don't know if it was intentional on the
captain's part or not, but hedid get turned into a robot I
don't think that was intentionaluh, and then he does get sort
of blown up by a grenade yeah,yeah.

Captain (54:02):
They basically decide that they need to destroy this
ship and destroy him as well,since he's a robot, so this
monster thing can't get to therest of the human race.
And then there's somesacrificing Nadia sacrifices
herself so that she can bombthem.

(54:22):
Yeah, there's a grenade thathappens in there that doesn't
really act like a real grenadeyeah it like sizzles some grates
yes but the goal is they'regonna fill the open space of the
boat with fuel or like thecargo ship of the fuel, however

(54:44):
that works yeah, and they sayall these plans out loud, which
I get it like you have to makeplans, but the robot can hear
everything.
Oh yeah, there's cameraseverywhere there's cameras
everywhere, there's microphones,like there's little uh crawly
robots that are you know justfor receiving data, that like it
can hear everything, so like itknows exactly what they're
doing and they're, I mean,they're doing it anyway, but um,

(55:05):
they get halted by robots liketrying to stop them.
Um, at the very end of thatmovie, that like giant, like
decepticon robot thing that camethrough the door, bro, that was
so.

Wilson (55:17):
That was the cgi thing, I think, but that was also
really good it was still prettygood but that thing was like
tearing through the ship liketissue paper.

Captain (55:25):
I was like damn, we, we're gonna get wrecked in here,
um and that, that like.
I mean, I don't know the onlyword I have for it is like
decepticon, um yeah, they blowit up twice and it's still not
dead.
Well, at first, remember itsteals, it captures Jamie Lee
Curtis and electrocutes her totry to get information about

(55:48):
where the detonator is, becauseI guess they don't say it out
loud where they put it.
But it has a 15-minute timer onit, right?

Wilson (55:56):
Yeah.

Captain (55:56):
And he was like where is it?
And she was like fuck you.
And then he electrocutes her.
So then everybody else on theteam that's still alive and not
robot like blows it up withmissiles and stuff well, yeah,
like they shoot a bazooka at itand then it's still alive.

Wilson (56:11):
And then after that, nadia, when she gets captured,
she like shoots some like tanksand uh, explosion.

Captain (56:18):
Yeah, I think they were like fire extinguishers.
She like explodes them.
I guess it wouldn't.
Be no, it would be some other.
Yeah, some other gas tank.

Wilson (56:24):
It's like a gas yeah, um , so she's dead.

Captain (56:27):
And then that's when jamie the curtis and billy
baldwin get into this likeejection seat yeah, that was
retrofitted from missiles, Iguess yeah, again, richie says
to their tech guys he was likehe was, he was dying, he like
got like shattered.
I don't know there was likeshrapnel or something, but uh,
he was like he was, he was dying.
He like got like shattered.
I don't know there was likeshrapnel or something, but uh,

(56:47):
he was like just go to theweapons room and there's,
there's one way to still get offthis ship and I rigged it up
for you.

Wilson (56:54):
So yeah, but they don't end up even using the detonator.
They use a pin on a grenadewhich is attached to more gas
tanks, which then, I think,ignites the fuel.
Oh yeah, Did we miss a partwhere the detonator blew up or
was destroyed?

Captain (57:13):
Oh yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, that was all like pins, Idon't know Well.
In any case, they get rocketedout of the boat and they land in
the water.
The worst special effects ofthis whole movie is their little
rocket flying scene.

(57:34):
That looks stupid.
No.

Wilson (57:39):
I mean, yeah, it looks terrible.
I just have a hard timebelieving like, oh, I
retrofitted this rocket boosterto put a seat on it so you can
shoot out of this ship.

Captain (57:51):
How much time did he have, like he couldn't have
tested anything.

Wilson (57:55):
Yeah, I just.

Captain (57:57):
Your face.

Wilson (57:59):
I just I don't know, I don't get it, I don't know man,
he has a chair, he has somemissiles.
I mean, it looked cool.
I just don't get it.

Captain (58:08):
No, it did not look cool.
The little special effects theydo with it shooting out of the
ship look stupid.
And they don't even hit thewater, they're flying in the air
.
I'm like this is stupid.
Everything else is good.
This is kind of stupid.

Wilson (58:24):
But they get ejected.
In the middle of the typhoon.
The ship blows up and then itgoes to like dawn.
The water is completely stilland they're alive floating on a
piece of the ship.

Captain (58:35):
Titanic.

Wilson (58:36):
You survived without a boat in a typhoon and you're
just like hanging.

Captain (58:41):
Well, I thought the typhoon like was basically past
them like hanging.

Wilson (58:46):
Well, I thought the typhoon like was basically past
them.
I don't know, I don't knowwhenever they got shot out.

Captain (58:49):
It did not look peaceful.
No, it didn't, that's very true.
Um, but uh, the they did getthe the mayday that went out,
though, even though that umradio got shot, um did actually
get to a real ship.
So real people, come and savethem.

Wilson (59:07):
Yep, there is a fake out or not a fake out.
But Jamie Lee Curtis isswimming in the water and she's
like, oh, she sees the guy thatfell overboard and she turns his
face and it's burned and hejumps at her.
But then she wakes up on thehelicopter.

Captain (59:20):
Yeah, I didn't really need that.
Didn't really need that.

Wilson (59:26):
He wasn't even a robot.

Captain (59:26):
He was just a burned face man.
Yeah, I think that we weresupposed to get the idea that,
like, maybe he was a robot forlike one second and then it was
just a nightmare.
But yeah, I don't really knowwhat that part was for, I didn't
really need that.
Maybe that, maybe that hitbetter in 1999.

Wilson (59:38):
But maybe they just needed to like make the ending
not like it's a piece ending,but like give one more little
like surprise little heartattack oh yeah, they're fine at
the end.

Captain (59:51):
Her and uh, her and billy safe foster and billy um,
I will say one of my best,biggest takeaways from this
movie is this movie passes thebechdel test like pretty, pretty
thoroughly, like multiple times.

Wilson (01:00:05):
So I didn't think about that.

Captain (01:00:07):
Yeah, you're right good for them 1999 good for her but
I will say so, I do really likethis, like I do really like this
movie, and maybe it's because Iwas expecting like really bad.

Wilson (01:00:21):
I don't know.

Captain (01:00:23):
I mean, I don't know what the score is for this, but
I do really like this movie.
I feel like if you were gonnaremake it today, like I would
maybe do things differently,like a little bit, but sure like
I.
Okay, I think it would be socool.
I was having this thought whileI was watching the movie.
I was like this would be so coolif, like we find out at the

(01:00:44):
very end that, like nadia was arobot, like she was a secret
robot, okay, okay yeah, and likeshe pretends to sacrifice
herself but like she like takesthem down at the very end, I was
like damn, I love that shitthat would be a good twist in a
remake, yeah, or um, or like thescene where, um, jamie lee
curtis gets electrocuted, likeshe acts like she's not robot,

(01:01:05):
but like she secretly does havethe electric monster in her, and
she's like she's like themonsters in foster and we see it
in the helicopter at the veryend, so like it is getting to
the human race.
Like I was like damn.
I've watched a lot of scarymovies and I like know how to
make those twist endings, causeI feel like that.

(01:01:26):
I would love that.
If that's like something thatthey had in a remake, no, you
should submit that idea and seewho.
I'm gonna write that shit downwell based on some hot goss.

Wilson (01:01:39):
I don't think Jamie Lee Curtis will be in, so what okay
spill spill, okay, uh.
So do you want me to skip thelike rotten tomatoes and budget
for now and go straight to hotgauze?

Captain (01:01:53):
oh no, I'll take the numbs okay, okay.

Wilson (01:01:58):
So rotten tomatoes 12 critic, 23 audience what the
critic.
I'm not surprised, but audienceI was like that seems a little
low wait.

Captain (01:02:08):
Why am I stupid?

Wilson (01:02:10):
I love this movie maybe we had such low expectations.
Um, the letterboxd score is 2.2out of 5, so almost better.
Um, and then the budget.
Where did that go, for somereason?
Oh, there, it is okay.
So the budget was 75 million,but it was a flop.

(01:02:33):
It only made 30.7, 7 million,jamie, no, yeah, so it was a big
, big financial loss damn, Idon't understand, okay, yeah um,
okay, so you want some goss yesokay, um.
Well, so first one, it was thefilm was based on a dark horse

(01:02:55):
comic series, um, and thedirector didn't initially like
the script, uh, but he madechanges inspired by his own
experiences working on thetitanic yep, that makes sense
that was pretty cool um oh wow,they used a real retired yeah

(01:03:17):
ship for the film.
Oh, that's so cool um, okay, sothis is the guy I was like
hinting at.
So in an interview at somepoint, jamie Lee Curtis cited
this film as one of the worstprojects she's ever worked on.
She said that's a piece of shitmovie.
It's an unbelievably bad movie,just bad from the bottom.

Captain (01:03:39):
Oh my god, am I dumb.

Wilson (01:03:43):
She goes on to say she's like there's a scene where I'm
running away from this alien andI actually hide under the
stairs.
I come down the stairs, duck,you know, up underneath them,
and she her character'squivering.
The big robot like comes downthe stairs and she's hiding
under the stairs, um, and she'slike this is something that can

(01:04:04):
open walls of steel and she'sjust hiding under stairs, um.
It was, I guess, a moment thattested her ability to suspend
disbelief, so she's not gonnawant to do a remake okay, but
what about?
the ending's different and she'slike harboring the virus I mean

(01:04:25):
, maybe, maybe you have to pitchit to her jamie um the next
star boy.

Captain (01:04:31):
Set up a meeting?
Yes um.

Wilson (01:04:34):
The next bit of hot goss is there was actually a line of
action figures for some reason,for some reason.
Um, so they had versions of thecaptains and squeaky with their
cyborg implants, and then italso included parts that you
could restore their originalappearance.
So all of these sets includedone or more firearms for their

(01:05:00):
figure, and then, I guess, thegiant monster.

Captain (01:05:09):
Do they look good?
I I mean, they look like 1990action figures the uh cheap is
like 15, and some of them areexpensive, as like 200.
Oh, I think you can get thewhole set for like 200.
Oh, oh, wow, I think you canget the whole set for like $200.

Wilson (01:05:23):
Oh.

Captain (01:05:25):
Oh wow, that's actually really interesting.

Wilson (01:05:27):
I am intrigued, I mean.

Captain (01:05:34):
I'm not going to buy it , but I am intrigued.

Wilson (01:05:37):
I feel like this would be definitely something that you
would have.
That's insane.
Okay, so the box looks like Imean, you probably wouldn't know
this, but like an earlyTransformers toy box, like the
lettering is giving me Alienlike the Alien franchise, yes,
oh yeah, I don't know whatoutfit I'm looking at the one
with the Goliath, like the bigmonster, and Nadia's with it but

(01:05:58):
I'm like, was she ever wearingthat outfit?

Captain (01:06:01):
oh, I see like the little transforming pieces where
you can like click things onand off.
Captain Alexei has his ownaction figure.
That dude was in.
I see like the littletransforming pieces where you
can like click things on and off.
Captain Alexei has his ownaction figure.
That dude was in the movie forlike four minutes.

Wilson (01:06:11):
This is pretty cool.
I don't know.
They must have really thoughtthis movie would slay.
I mean, maybe it just took 25years, Maybe yeah, our episode
will be the resurgence of thisfilm.

Captain (01:06:24):
Yeah, Jamie Lee Curtis comes on the pod.

Wilson (01:06:29):
Yep, okay, so there is another hot gossip.
There is a tie-in video game.
It's barely related, but it'scalled Virus it Is Aware.
So it had little to do with thefilm, apart from the
introduction and endingcinematics.

Captain (01:06:51):
um, but yeah, I guess that the same concept was used
for a video game oh follows afemale police officer trapped in
an infected hotel along withher partner stutter.
So the virus did get to shoreyeah, apparently what's this
last list of films featured?

Wilson (01:07:12):
oh, I thought that was so I need to check this out.
There's um.
The wikipedia linked me to thisarticle of list of films
featuring space stations that isso up your alley.
It's like I know kind of unfairkind of unfair.
They even categorize it likenon-documentary films using a
real space station as a plot,films that use it as related to

(01:07:35):
the plot, and then films likefully fictionalized space
station as the plot.
I don't know, I just thought itwas cool looking.
I need to check that out.

Captain (01:07:47):
Um, there are some people that wikipedia like
things that I would never thinkwould be wikipedia'd.

Wilson (01:07:52):
So yes, yes um, okay, so the last bit of hot gas, and it
was like touched on thisbriefly earlier um, sort of.
So the film was mostly shot innewport news, virginia, on a
ship anchored in the james river.
Um, it says, a horizontal baron the ship was raised and
lowered to conceal the horizonline, making it look like the

(01:08:14):
ship was like further out to sea.
Um, so the ship was actuallythe retired missile range
instrumentation ship, missileRange Instrumentation Ship, usns
General Hoyt S Vandenberg.
So one of the ship's satellitedish antennas was intentionally
damaged for the film's finalscene, or the ship was destroyed

(01:08:35):
.
They did.
Oh, okay, so they sunk the shipin 2009, but some of the
original lettering that they puton for the movie was like still
visible, I guess they sunk theship yeah, actually there's a
picture of it from wikipedia, ofit underwater in 2015.

(01:08:58):
They just put it underwater Idon't know if I like that
concept of like.
If they're done with the ship,they'll just be like.
If they don't know if I likethat concept of like, if they're
done with a ship, they'll justbe like if they don't tear it
apart, they'll just sink it.

Captain (01:09:09):
Yeah, I didn't know that, like we really do, just
use the ocean as a garbage bin.

Wilson (01:09:14):
This says it's an artificial reef, so aren't those
like good things, or something?

Captain (01:09:20):
I you're, I don't.
Marine biology is not you're, Idon't.

Wilson (01:09:28):
Marine biology is not.

Captain (01:09:28):
Maybe if they call it an artificial reef.
That, like, makes it okay, youknow what?
That's probably what it is.
You're probably right, um, Ilove that.
You're.
Um, I love that.

Wilson (01:09:36):
What you have is your rag in here oh yeah, I had to
write it down before I forgot.
Um, but first, what would yourate this movie?

Captain (01:09:47):
Oh, oh, my God, we're doing that before Rags.

Wilson (01:09:50):
We can do Rags first.
What do you?

Captain (01:09:52):
want to do.
All right, what would I ratethis movie?
I like it, I'm going to say,you know, and I think it is
because it's like a pleasantsurprise, and so I feel like
that's messing with it a littlebit sure um, but I don't know,
man, I feel like I'm gonna gowith like a.

(01:10:12):
I feel like I'm gonna go toohigh.
I want to say like a 70, but Ifeel like that's really high do
you want to go with a 70?

Wilson (01:10:23):
yeah, let's go with the 70 okay, so I I put 74 damn I,
because I think like,objectively it's probably like a
50 or 60 movie, but I think,like what you were saying, I was
expecting way worse and I waslike really pleasantly surprised
and it is an entertaining moviethis movie made my jaw

(01:10:46):
literally drop, so yeah, like atleast three times.

Captain (01:10:49):
Yeah, I saw it yes, because I was shocked.
I was like what is this half,what is this human skin
stretched over a robot thing?
And then they got, then those,those things just get
progressively bigger and andthen they take our main man
Squeaky and make him one of them.
I was like God damn, yeah, andthe captain, but nobody likes

(01:11:11):
that alcoholic captain.
Oh yeah, nobody.

Wilson (01:11:13):
Yeah, okay.
So what's your razor glass,your rag?

Captain (01:11:21):
I do think my rag is going to have to be the computer
saying I'm aware and you arethe virus.
I was like damn.
I do really like that line.
I do have an honorable mentionwhich I don't think is yours,
based on what you have writtenin here.

Wilson (01:11:37):
Okay.

Captain (01:11:38):
But so at the very end of the movie where the Mayday
ship says to them shoot a flareto tell us that you're like
still there and you need us tocome, and the guy, the rescuer,
on the other ship, sees the shipexplode like bazooka grenades I

(01:11:59):
mean exploding over the horizonand all he goes is well, that's
one hell of a flare as soon asI saw that scene I was like that
is a razor glass type that thelie.
I mean the fact that you'remaking me laugh like out loud it
was.
It was actually.
It was really funny.
That line was really good um soyeah, oh yeah, those are

(01:12:20):
probably probably where I wouldgo.
You just have steve, just yeahit was.

Wilson (01:12:26):
Yeah, it's a reminder for myself, but mine was like so
we know that squeaky was takenover by, like the robots.
I just I thought it was sofunny that, um so, when squeaky,
as an ant or cyborg, was likechasing after them, he was like
punching these walls.
He like breaks through thissteel wall and like starts to
crawl through and he, like allandroid like looks up, breaks
through this steel wall andstarts to crawl through and all

(01:12:47):
android-like looks up, and thefirst thing he says after
peeping through the wall isSteve.
It just felt so random.

Captain (01:13:04):
I think I do know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I don't know if that waslike some of his brain is still
working or the robot's likepretending to be him, or
something.
But, yeah, it was weird.
Yeah, I would recommend this tome.
I don't care.

Wilson (01:13:23):
Yeah, it's a fun ride.

Captain (01:13:28):
I liked it yeah that's, that's, yeah, yep, yep, yep um
I don't know if you haveanything else, but I know what
we're doing next week I am.

Wilson (01:13:36):
That's all I have for this one do you want to know?

Captain (01:13:39):
next week we're doing I do we're doing a nocturne,
which is one of those um welcometo blumhouse series, which we
did one a while ago oh, okay, Iwant.
I'm excited to unpack thatbecause I did not realize it was
a welcome to blumhouse, damn um, okay, well, yeah, um, do you

(01:13:59):
you know I could have someadvice for me based on um my
virus ship?

Wilson (01:14:05):
alien robot movie so what like if you were on a virus
ship, how to survive, or likeoh, okay, okay yeah, we're going
for it um I think I could dothat.

Captain (01:14:17):
Yeah, I'm jamie lee curtis you were jamie lee curtis
.

Wilson (01:14:22):
you were trying to survive a alien virus infected
ship.
Yeah, I kind of think you'refucked.
I don't know what to tell you.

Captain (01:14:43):
Just kill myself is what your advice is.
Just make sure it doesn't getbeyond the ship.

Wilson (01:14:54):
Yes.

Captain (01:14:55):
Okay.

Wilson (01:14:55):
That's a good answer, okay.