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June 19, 2025 21 mins

In this bold and enlightening episode of the Retreat Leaders Podcast, Shannon Jamail sits down with Dora Rankin, a business growth coach and sales strategist who isn’t afraid to tell retreat leaders the hard truth: you’re likely spending way too much time on marketing and not enough on sales.

Dora breaks down the key differences between sales and marketing (hint: they are NOT the same thing!) and explains why retreat leaders should be spending at least 70% of their business-building time focused on actual sales activities. From connecting directly with potential guests to having powerful discovery calls, Dora shows us how marketing is just the invitation—sales is where the transformation (and the bookings) happen.

She also dives into the 4 core styles of sales and how to identify which one fits your personality and business model best. Whether you’re a seasoned retreat host or new to the game, this episode will flip your mindset, get you out of hiding behind pretty Instagram posts, and into real, aligned action that fills retreats.

What You’ll Learn:

  • The difference between marketing and sales (and why that matters more than you think)
  • Why most retreat leaders are spending their time backwards
  • The 4 ways to sell (and which one fits YOU)
  • How to confidently step into the sales process without feeling slimy or pushy
  • Practical tips to rewire your mindset around visibility, outreach, and relationship-building

 

Connect with Dora Rankin: Website: https://dorarankin.com

 

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