October 9, 2025 • 22 mins
00:00 - 22:40 - Mike Chappell from FOX59 and CBS4 joins the show! Mike, JMV and Brent discuss the possibility of Kyler Murray missing the game against the Colts, and how his backup, former Colts QB Jacoby Brissett, doesn’t present nearly as big of a threat. They also talk about the slow start to Marvin Harrison Jr’s career in Arizona.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline, I'm assuming
unless we get the roof open a couple of different
times there upcoming, I'm going to be mowing somebody's property
on Beach of Grove here next year. Uh and that
is Mike Chapel's property over there.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Who joins us again on the Andy Moore Automotive Group.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hootline, I think last Sunday the roof and window not
being open costs me that bet.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Well, you know I need to at least mow tomorrow
or Saturdays, so you know you can do that, or or.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well I haven't officially lost. I haven't lost the bet yet.
But if you want, do you need me to know?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I mean, I mean I've had a property there, sure,
I'm trying to sell to the employee, So you need
me to.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Know if you need me to, I will, Oh, I
can know. Do you mow yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It takes me two hours on our writing Morris, it's
it's quite the afternoon, So I no, I'll get it
done and I'll to the whole way.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't mine. I don't mind. I don't mind mowing like.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It takes me about forty five minutes to fifty minutes
to do mine. But I'm on a zero turn going
about sixty five miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I got I got like four, I got about four
acres to do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, mine, mine's kind of funk. Either way. We do
it and I complain and all this when I do it,
and fortunately this, Mike, don't you think this is like
what the last time to mow or not? Now I've
got Oh hell no, you'll be molting the leaves.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, I know that I can. Yeah, I do mine
up until Thanksgiving easily.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I as long as the grass is done, I
can multch like in thirty minutes and do that like
three times. I don't wait till we're all done, because
I don't want to be buried in the leaves other
than do it like three times and then be done
with it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That is true. Now do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You mault your leaves and then blow the leaves around
any trees on the property.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Is that what you?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah? The last time, the last time. I'll try to.
I'll try to to get it to where they're not
cluttered in places that it's open enough that the one
thing I'm careful of is not to at least be
the person that blows mulch leaves on my neighbor's property.
That really gets me peeled when people do that. I'll
(02:21):
let the wind. I'll let the wind take care of that.
I try to be a little bit considered in my neighbors.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Sometimes I've done it before in the road which is
Banter Road, and the bikers that come by there, I
don't they.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Like, Yeah, I did that with on twenty fifth Street
and Beach Grove, And there have been times when it
liter really bad. So I'll go down the street with
the mower and blow them back on my property. And
then sometimes I say the hell, well they left cars
blow them by. So it depends on my mood at
the time.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Hey, before we start with the cults, injuries and those
that didn't participate in practice today, it doesn't look like
Kyler Murray's gonna play with that foot or toe whatever
it is. And former Colts quarterback Jacoby Burssett looks like
you could get the star.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What's your thought on that as of right now?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Does it look like to you what it looks like
to me about his lack of participation he being Murray?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, But but again when you're talking about a veteran.
They can, they can practice Friday. But when it's I'll
tell you when it's a foot or a toe. I
think it's a toe, right, maybe turf toe, which sounds
like no, it's kurf though for craning out loud. And
he's a quarterback that cuts on it. So I don't want,
I do want to just dismiss Coke Kobe rest at all.
(03:37):
He can handle things, he can he can manage games
and make place. I would much rather face Koby Brissett
than Kyler Murray. You know where Brissette's gonna be. Uh,
his threat? You just his game is easier to prepare
for and deal with. So I'd much rather face percent.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
No. No, I completely dismissed him earlier.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I said, Die Lomax, Jim Hart, Kelly, Staffer, whomever, but not, I.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Mean, I tell you, yeah, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Go back, go back to twenty nineteen, and this team
makes the playoffs, and if Jakoby Brissette doesn't have that
knees praying and miss the game, uh, they would have
wont that made the playoff even with that Invanitarry struggles
then made the playoffs. But he's just he just doesn't
present anywhere near the level of threat that that Tyler
(04:33):
Murray does. So and there are running backs, Uh, it
would be very advantageous of the Colts.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, and that bound to screw it up anyway, as
we witness last week in a multitude of ways, and
without his threat.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They're nowhere nearer, that's what I mean, nowhere near the same.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I mean, that's that's just something you can't with a
backup at all replicate. And you know they've been stumbling
and bumbling around even with him back there.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You know, you know Kenny Pool who drops the ball
short of the goal line the next time. I mean,
I'm telling you I don't understand anyway, but in back
to back weeks with both guys are going to be
here on Sunday, they're running back and then a d Mitchell, Uh,
I don't understand it. We talked for Reggie Wayne about
(05:23):
it today and Age just said a lack of focus
and and all that stuff. But my goodness, I don't
understand how you do that. Jonathan Tagos, as we talked
about to me, was different because he just sort of
dropped it. Ady Mitchell's was more getting ready to celebrate,
and I I just the next guy that does it.
(05:46):
I guess unless it's a really really star, they can
be cut. I mean at some point, what are you doing?
Uh So, yeah, it's uh it's interesting. And I want
to see a d Mitchell score a touchdown and see
him refuse to give the ball up. I mean he
may he may keep it, go back to the bench,
(06:08):
sit down the football in his hands. Uh So yeah,
I just don't understand doing stuff like that. But I
you know again, it's like maybe I haven't seen that
in forever. Well now I haven't seen that since I
don't know last week.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So it's it's, well, well, who's who started that?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Who was tagged with starting that particular ridiculous trend.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Stephen Holden did a good story in ESPN and Deshaun Watson.
I remember. I remember Leon Lett in the Super Bowl
a little different though, because he was returning I think
a fumble, big lineman and he kind of slowed up
and don beebe chasing down and knocked it out of
his hand. But I again, I prior to Jonathan Tator,
(06:54):
I don't remember. Oh no, that's not true because the
year that that Tater did the last year there was
a Cincinnati Bengal defensive back either a fumble or an interception,
and he got he dropped the ball before the goal line.
So it's just I mean, how many in What's crazy again?
(07:14):
Is they tell these guys every week letters and logos,
letters and logos, don't put the ball down till you're
at the letters and logos, and then it happens. I
don't get it. It says something about the player focus.
I don't know. But again, the next guy that does it,
I just I just would I wouldn't want to be
(07:34):
him or his his agent because the response won't be.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Kind to Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty
nineties on the Andy moron them out of group pot line.
We'll get to the calls in their injury situations in
just a second. Have you been disappointed in the production?
Because I know people that are Cardinal fans, like all
five of them, seem to be disappointed and who Michael L.
Marvin Harrison Junior is and until this point, and I
(08:01):
know that we all expected more and maybe that was
too much, but this is certainly not what really any
of us, including those five Cardinals fans have expected no.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And again, remember the whatever the last game we saw
on TV, it wasn't Tennessee game the one before that,
to where he was just not playing well, just he
looked detached, disinterested. Rocks a couple of balls and then
he had a great touchdown in the end zone where
he went over a guy. This is this is where
uh and the media is to be blamed to some
(08:32):
level where you make this guy out to be the
best receiver coming into the league since Randy Moss or somebody,
and then it's when he doesn't live up to you
can say, well, what's up? Well, you know, it's kind
of like with arch Manning in Texas where the media
built this guy up to be a Heisman and the
number one picking all this and and now that's not
(08:53):
who he is. So but no, I'm a little disappointed.
U surprised, I guess, uh. And this one where you
just hope that this isn't a game where he goes off.
I think this is a great chance to put Mooney
Ward on Marvin and make him go somewhere else. Because
Marvin Marvin was a special player at the o highest
(09:14):
state he was and he hasn't forgotten how to play.
Whether whether he just isn't comfortable in that offense, or
he and Murray don't haven't clicked or whatever. I don't know,
but great players in college just don't forget how to play.
There's something up and I don't know what it is,
(09:36):
but it's it's sort of a level with Ady Mitchell
where people here are ready to just move on. We're
tired of it. This guy he has too much talent.
You're not You're not going to do that. And with Marvin,
it's just be patient. I remember Reggie. I always use
Reggie as a as a reference point. He didn't really
(09:57):
emerge until was it mid mind of his year two
or year three? Uh, when he had when he had
big Marvin holdong with himself again. I think he's gonna
have a really, really good career, and I just hope
it starts after Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
DeShawn Jackson was the starter evidently of that. Yeah, DeShawn Jackson,
the Eagles, I believe back then who started started all that.
So that's dropping of the football right at the go line.
So it is definitely a trend that everybody would like
(10:39):
to see in That's my Chapel of CBS four and
Fox fifty nine and Andy Moore Automotive group line.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Speaking of More, how about Kenny Moore.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
The second Dot any expectation riding on that and especially
those others that did not participate in practice, including one
Grover Stewart earlier today.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm not too concerned in this is me talking is
not my body part. I think Grover's I think he's okay.
I think he prays, uh had that whenever you hear
by said, you're thinking, oh my, that may be an
extended time. But I think he'll be okay. I'm encouraged
by Alec Pierce. Although we were here last week on
(11:19):
Thursday and talking about Alec Pierce, I mean Friday, he
didn't practice, so tomorrow is a big day for him.
Kennymore is is I don't really understand what's going on.
We talked to him yesterday and he's such a great
guy and such a great player, and you know, he's
(11:40):
missed two games and he's not going to practice this
week unless he's out there tomorrow at some level. And
I don't I don't see how he plays next or
practices next week and plays that game. Was it the
Chargers after that, So I I I don't understand why
they even put him on I R which.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Is four games, because it may be four.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Games anyway, maybe five maybe, But he's doing what he
has to do. He said, they've you know, and they've
got among the best people, stocks and rehab people and
all that, and it's just when it's when it's the Achilles,
it's just it's just all you're in cana go up
on your alarms on that. And then he sort of
talked about that. Well, what I thought was interesting as
(12:25):
we talked to him, and he said, yeah, he said
he really he was not ideal how he felt that
Tennessee when.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It happened, and he said, but I dodged a.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Full ruptured Achilles. Uh so at some level that was
damage to the Achilles. And at least seeing you don't
mess with that. You make sure you're very cautious, and
they will be. But because of that, it's a little
surprised that he put edm I are just just to
give him four or five weeks to get it right,
maybe longer, but they need him. He's a quality player,
(12:58):
one of the best, it is. Because and so we'll
see where this goes.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine. He's
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group pile line. We kind
have had a similar point. I think a week ago
we're regarding Ali Pears and how he felt, and then
there was a there's a moonwalk of so it's backpedal
if you will.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And he did not participate. How you feeling.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
It looks like all systems that go to clear to
cuts your protocol and to be active.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
On Sunday, Well you would think so uh, you know,
I think he came in either Thursday after practice at
some point or that evening or the next morning and
just told Change Stiching that he didn't feel quite right.
He much must have had some symptoms. And with the
with these concussions, you do not even remote way, you can't.
(13:47):
You can't push it because you've got to be cleared
by that independent neurologist tomorrow will tell. If he's out
there tomorrow, then then he's passed it and and good
to go. Although again this is it. This is his
third career concussion, his second in the last nine or
ten months, so you're going to be, you know, sort
(14:08):
of watching and making sure that you know, because the
more you have, the more susceptible you seem to be.
For another one, Hopefully he's fine to these perst. He's
a great guy and you don't want to see bad
things happen to the guys at all, especially like Alex.
And he's such a key component of his offense. Again,
(14:32):
they've done really good things about him, but the thing
he brings is really really special. So hopefully he's okay
and good to go.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think what he brings and I've said this before,
they cannot replicate with with anybody else. And that's a
facet of Daniel Jones game that he really doesn't have,
but he does with a guy like Alec Pearce who
could go up and get it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, the fifty to fifty things, it's it's sound like
either Alec gets it or nobody gets it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And again that's not the strength of Daniel Jones. The
deep ball.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
He's shown some of that in five games. But again,
you know, I guess you hope for ad Mitchell will
be that kind of a guy, but he he just
hasn't had the chance or cashed him when he's had
the chance. Ashton Douland was amazing last week, which should
which should surprise nobody. That's that's who he is.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
On our podcast today on CBS four and Fox fifty nine,
I I sort of mentioned I compared Ashton Dooland to
Jack Doyle to where you need that guy on your
roster that just does things that that yeah, some people
see him, but things that that people don't see. And
(15:52):
when you need something done, either Jack Doyle does it
or Ashton Dooland does it. Remember Zach Pastor was that
kind of a guy. And you know, I always say,
you can you need a couple of those guys. You
can't git too many of them and then you're just
a run of the middle team. But boy, those guys
when they're able to be the fourth receiver and your
(16:13):
top special teams guy. And again he should have. He
had a ninety eight yard touchdown called back for Granted
Loud on a kickoff uh so's It could have been
a really really special day. But that's why, that's why
just this group works well together, because Pierce goes down
and Mitchell's in the doghouse, so so Ashton Dulan steps
(16:34):
up and gives you such a great game. It was
the most he's played an offense, and you would if
you didn't know that, you would have known that. Uh,
just because of the way he handled it. He just
looked like he fit right in.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I mean, I Colt fans are kind of wondering if
maybe we're going to see you know, every former Bengal
that played for lou An Aroomo be a part of
this defense at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Then Jermaine Pratt is the latest.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I said this, I mean, does he he has to
automatically be better than what they had, you know, outside
of Zaire Franklin to this point. Is is that fair
to say?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, because it's not really they've really not gotten
what they want. You know, we all thought it would
be Jalen Carlis and that's not happened. He's still on
IR and yeah, it hasn't worked. And they they they've
lessened the linebacker position by using more dbs, which is fine,
but you still you need quality play from your linebackers.
(17:36):
They haven't gotten it outside of Zaire. And I expect
Jermaine prattic starts on I do. I just it's not
like he's not been playing. He started four games for
the Raiders and then for whatever reason, they left him
home when they came here last weekend. So yeah, it's
okay to have former players from a decent from a
(17:57):
coordinator as long as they're the right one. Kilton was
a good pick up and then he gets hurt and
Germaine Pratt will be an upgrade. My only we were
talking in the press room and the only thing is
they had a chance to sign Jermaine Pratt like six
weeks ago when the Bengals cut him right and they didn't.
(18:19):
Uh so, I guess they were trying to give their
own players more of a chance to grow in the
position and it didn't work. And now you get you
get an experienced linebacker who started a ton been productive,
and yes, it's gonna be it's got to be an
upgrade because you just haven't got enough out of that
(18:40):
That site kickses I air.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, it's been a struggle.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Uh the money Badger, what do you think about the
transition they're making from a guy that was money himself
the entire time and then the jack assery of a
special teams play ended his season.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, whenever you get guys, there's a reason they're out
the way or talk about that. But he's a good replacement.
I wish he had a stronger leg. I mean, he's
five or thirteen on fifty yarders. They got rid of
a guy in the off season because he couldn't kick
fifty yarders with Matt Gay. But again he came in
(19:23):
and he misses his last year with the torn hamstring.
He's passed at and apparently had a great workout and
you know, shame stacking new him with the Chargers. That
always helps. He was here in twenty one and kicked well.
That always helps. I'd forgotten until I look at that.
But they signed him as the undraft as an undrafted
rookie back in two thousand and eight pen and it
(19:44):
was to work with Vinitary for a year for training camps.
So he knows his way around. He's kicked well. I
think it will require them to readjust their thinking when
they get around midfield in how aggressive and how you
got pawn And you know, Joel Erickson brought up and
(20:06):
it's a good point that maybe the target line is
a thirty three now on kicking field goals, which is
around a fifty yard field goal. But because you can
only go on what a guy's done and he's not
been reliable outside of fifty he's like eight I think
he's like eighty eight percent on forty nine and inn
which is good, not great, it's good. But when you're
(20:29):
replacing the guy who right now was the best kicker
in the league. I realized it was five games, but
Spencer Trader was off the charts and reliable and although
him too, you weren't really sure what you had on
fifty yarders with him because you didn't have a lot
of attempts. But it's such, it's just a.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, you never want to take away what has been
a positive, and clearly he's been a positive and he
don't want to take that away.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And what a great story it was, and you just
hate to see something like that go down and and
what might have been. And he gets his chance and
he's kicking well and the sort of a hometown kid
although he's not from here, but he lives here.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So just a Shane That is my chapel of CBS,
FOI and Fox fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
He's on the andymore on the money, off group line.
Anything else stand out to you?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Hey, I didn't want to ask you this before we
go I know James wants me to go really quickly.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I asked this on Monday.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Who do you think has helped the other more Daniel
Jones and Shane Stikeen or Shane Styken and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
How about Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren. No I that's
a good Shane Syken probably. I think Shane has been
able to he saw what a lot of us didn't
see or didn't want to see on the reliability consistency,
and it's just worked. But it's worked because of Shane
(22:05):
and because Jones has got the best supporting cast, including
the augmentative line that he's had in his career.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
To Mike Chappel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine on.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The Andy More on the Mother Creer plot line, it
may I may have to come over in most and
property here in November at some point, so well, you know, Monte.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Or if if we get that ten inches of snow,
you can come over here and get my walks.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Colener I can do that too. It's good, buddy. I
appreciate you. We'll see you on Sunday. Mike.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You guys be well. I'll see you
But on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline, I'm assuming
unless we get the roof open a couple of different
times there upcoming, I'm going to be mowing somebody's property
on Beach of Grove here next year. Uh and that
is Mike Chapel's property over there.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Who joins us again on the Andy Moore Automotive Group.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hootline, I think last Sunday the roof and window not
being open costs me that bet.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Well, you know I need to at least mow tomorrow
or Saturdays, so you know you can do that, or or.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well I haven't officially lost. I haven't lost the bet yet.
But if you want, do you need me to know?
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I mean, I mean I've had a property there, sure,
I'm trying to sell to the employee, So you need
me to.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Know if you need me to, I will, Oh, I
can know. Do you mow yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It takes me two hours on our writing Morris, it's
it's quite the afternoon, So I no, I'll get it
done and I'll to the whole way.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't mine. I don't mind. I don't mind mowing like.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It takes me about forty five minutes to fifty minutes
to do mine. But I'm on a zero turn going
about sixty five miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I got I got like four, I got about four
acres to do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, mine, mine's kind of funk. Either way. We do
it and I complain and all this when I do it,
and fortunately this, Mike, don't you think this is like
what the last time to mow or not? Now I've
got Oh hell no, you'll be molting the leaves.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, I know that I can. Yeah, I do mine
up until Thanksgiving easily.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, I as long as the grass is done, I
can multch like in thirty minutes and do that like
three times. I don't wait till we're all done, because
I don't want to be buried in the leaves other
than do it like three times and then be done
with it.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That is true. Now do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You mault your leaves and then blow the leaves around
any trees on the property.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Is that what you?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah? The last time, the last time. I'll try to.
I'll try to to get it to where they're not
cluttered in places that it's open enough that the one
thing I'm careful of is not to at least be
the person that blows mulch leaves on my neighbor's property.
That really gets me peeled when people do that. I'll
(02:21):
let the wind. I'll let the wind take care of that.
I try to be a little bit considered in my neighbors.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Sometimes I've done it before in the road which is
Banter Road, and the bikers that come by there, I
don't they.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Like, Yeah, I did that with on twenty fifth Street
and Beach Grove, And there have been times when it
liter really bad. So I'll go down the street with
the mower and blow them back on my property. And
then sometimes I say the hell, well they left cars
blow them by. So it depends on my mood at
the time.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Hey, before we start with the cults, injuries and those
that didn't participate in practice today, it doesn't look like
Kyler Murray's gonna play with that foot or toe whatever
it is. And former Colts quarterback Jacoby Burssett looks like
you could get the star.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
What's your thought on that as of right now?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Does it look like to you what it looks like
to me about his lack of participation he being Murray?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, But but again when you're talking about a veteran.
They can, they can practice Friday. But when it's I'll
tell you when it's a foot or a toe. I
think it's a toe, right, maybe turf toe, which sounds
like no, it's kurf though for craning out loud. And
he's a quarterback that cuts on it. So I don't want,
I do want to just dismiss Coke Kobe rest at all.
(03:37):
He can handle things, he can he can manage games
and make place. I would much rather face Koby Brissett
than Kyler Murray. You know where Brissette's gonna be. Uh,
his threat? You just his game is easier to prepare
for and deal with. So I'd much rather face percent.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
No. No, I completely dismissed him earlier.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I said, Die Lomax, Jim Hart, Kelly, Staffer, whomever, but not, I.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Mean, I tell you, yeah, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Go back, go back to twenty nineteen, and this team
makes the playoffs, and if Jakoby Brissette doesn't have that
knees praying and miss the game, uh, they would have
wont that made the playoff even with that Invanitarry struggles
then made the playoffs. But he's just he just doesn't
present anywhere near the level of threat that that Tyler
(04:33):
Murray does. So and there are running backs, Uh, it
would be very advantageous of the Colts.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, and that bound to screw it up anyway, as
we witness last week in a multitude of ways, and
without his threat.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
They're nowhere nearer, that's what I mean, nowhere near the same.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I mean, that's that's just something you can't with a
backup at all replicate. And you know they've been stumbling
and bumbling around even with him back there.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You know, you know Kenny Pool who drops the ball
short of the goal line the next time. I mean,
I'm telling you I don't understand anyway, but in back
to back weeks with both guys are going to be
here on Sunday, they're running back and then a d Mitchell, Uh,
I don't understand it. We talked for Reggie Wayne about
(05:23):
it today and Age just said a lack of focus
and and all that stuff. But my goodness, I don't
understand how you do that. Jonathan Tagos, as we talked
about to me, was different because he just sort of
dropped it. Ady Mitchell's was more getting ready to celebrate,
and I I just the next guy that does it.
(05:46):
I guess unless it's a really really star, they can
be cut. I mean at some point, what are you doing?
Uh So, yeah, it's uh it's interesting. And I want
to see a d Mitchell score a touchdown and see
him refuse to give the ball up. I mean he
may he may keep it, go back to the bench,
(06:08):
sit down the football in his hands. Uh So yeah,
I just don't understand doing stuff like that. But I
you know again, it's like maybe I haven't seen that
in forever. Well now I haven't seen that since I
don't know last week.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So it's it's, well, well, who's who started that?
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Who was tagged with starting that particular ridiculous trend.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Stephen Holden did a good story in ESPN and Deshaun Watson.
I remember. I remember Leon Lett in the Super Bowl
a little different though, because he was returning I think
a fumble, big lineman and he kind of slowed up
and don beebe chasing down and knocked it out of
his hand. But I again, I prior to Jonathan Tator,
(06:54):
I don't remember. Oh no, that's not true because the
year that that Tater did the last year there was
a Cincinnati Bengal defensive back either a fumble or an interception,
and he got he dropped the ball before the goal line.
So it's just I mean, how many in What's crazy again?
(07:14):
Is they tell these guys every week letters and logos,
letters and logos, don't put the ball down till you're
at the letters and logos, and then it happens. I
don't get it. It says something about the player focus.
I don't know. But again, the next guy that does it,
I just I just would I wouldn't want to be
(07:34):
him or his his agent because the response won't be.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Kind to Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty
nineties on the Andy moron them out of group pot line.
We'll get to the calls in their injury situations in
just a second. Have you been disappointed in the production?
Because I know people that are Cardinal fans, like all
five of them, seem to be disappointed and who Michael L.
Marvin Harrison Junior is and until this point, and I
(08:01):
know that we all expected more and maybe that was
too much, but this is certainly not what really any
of us, including those five Cardinals fans have expected no.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
And again, remember the whatever the last game we saw
on TV, it wasn't Tennessee game the one before that,
to where he was just not playing well, just he
looked detached, disinterested. Rocks a couple of balls and then
he had a great touchdown in the end zone where
he went over a guy. This is this is where
uh and the media is to be blamed to some
(08:32):
level where you make this guy out to be the
best receiver coming into the league since Randy Moss or somebody,
and then it's when he doesn't live up to you
can say, well, what's up? Well, you know, it's kind
of like with arch Manning in Texas where the media
built this guy up to be a Heisman and the
number one picking all this and and now that's not
(08:53):
who he is. So but no, I'm a little disappointed.
U surprised, I guess, uh. And this one where you
just hope that this isn't a game where he goes off.
I think this is a great chance to put Mooney
Ward on Marvin and make him go somewhere else. Because
Marvin Marvin was a special player at the o highest
(09:14):
state he was and he hasn't forgotten how to play.
Whether whether he just isn't comfortable in that offense, or
he and Murray don't haven't clicked or whatever. I don't know,
but great players in college just don't forget how to play.
There's something up and I don't know what it is,
(09:36):
but it's it's sort of a level with Ady Mitchell
where people here are ready to just move on. We're
tired of it. This guy he has too much talent.
You're not You're not going to do that. And with Marvin,
it's just be patient. I remember Reggie. I always use
Reggie as a as a reference point. He didn't really
(09:57):
emerge until was it mid mind of his year two
or year three? Uh, when he had when he had
big Marvin holdong with himself again. I think he's gonna
have a really, really good career, and I just hope
it starts after Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
DeShawn Jackson was the starter evidently of that. Yeah, DeShawn Jackson,
the Eagles, I believe back then who started started all that.
So that's dropping of the football right at the go line.
So it is definitely a trend that everybody would like
(10:39):
to see in That's my Chapel of CBS four and
Fox fifty nine and Andy Moore Automotive group line.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Speaking of More, how about Kenny Moore.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
The second Dot any expectation riding on that and especially
those others that did not participate in practice, including one
Grover Stewart earlier today.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm not too concerned in this is me talking is
not my body part. I think Grover's I think he's okay.
I think he prays, uh had that whenever you hear
by said, you're thinking, oh my, that may be an
extended time. But I think he'll be okay. I'm encouraged
by Alec Pierce. Although we were here last week on
(11:19):
Thursday and talking about Alec Pierce, I mean Friday, he
didn't practice, so tomorrow is a big day for him.
Kennymore is is I don't really understand what's going on.
We talked to him yesterday and he's such a great
guy and such a great player, and you know, he's
(11:40):
missed two games and he's not going to practice this
week unless he's out there tomorrow at some level. And
I don't I don't see how he plays next or
practices next week and plays that game. Was it the
Chargers after that, So I I I don't understand why
they even put him on I R which.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Is four games, because it may be four.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Games anyway, maybe five maybe, But he's doing what he
has to do. He said, they've you know, and they've
got among the best people, stocks and rehab people and
all that, and it's just when it's when it's the Achilles,
it's just it's just all you're in cana go up
on your alarms on that. And then he sort of
talked about that. Well, what I thought was interesting as
(12:25):
we talked to him, and he said, yeah, he said
he really he was not ideal how he felt that
Tennessee when.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It happened, and he said, but I dodged a.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Full ruptured Achilles. Uh so at some level that was
damage to the Achilles. And at least seeing you don't
mess with that. You make sure you're very cautious, and
they will be. But because of that, it's a little
surprised that he put edm I are just just to
give him four or five weeks to get it right,
maybe longer, but they need him. He's a quality player,
(12:58):
one of the best, it is. Because and so we'll
see where this goes.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine. He's
on the Andy Moore Automotive Group pile line. We kind
have had a similar point. I think a week ago
we're regarding Ali Pears and how he felt, and then
there was a there's a moonwalk of so it's backpedal
if you will.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
And he did not participate. How you feeling.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
It looks like all systems that go to clear to
cuts your protocol and to be active.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
On Sunday, Well you would think so uh, you know,
I think he came in either Thursday after practice at
some point or that evening or the next morning and
just told Change Stiching that he didn't feel quite right.
He much must have had some symptoms. And with the
with these concussions, you do not even remote way, you can't.
(13:47):
You can't push it because you've got to be cleared
by that independent neurologist tomorrow will tell. If he's out
there tomorrow, then then he's passed it and and good
to go. Although again this is it. This is his
third career concussion, his second in the last nine or
ten months, so you're going to be, you know, sort
(14:08):
of watching and making sure that you know, because the
more you have, the more susceptible you seem to be.
For another one, Hopefully he's fine to these perst. He's
a great guy and you don't want to see bad
things happen to the guys at all, especially like Alex.
And he's such a key component of his offense. Again,
(14:32):
they've done really good things about him, but the thing
he brings is really really special. So hopefully he's okay
and good to go.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think what he brings and I've said this before,
they cannot replicate with with anybody else. And that's a
facet of Daniel Jones game that he really doesn't have,
but he does with a guy like Alec Pearce who
could go up and get it.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Yeah, the fifty to fifty things, it's it's sound like
either Alec gets it or nobody gets it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And again that's not the strength of Daniel Jones. The
deep ball.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
He's shown some of that in five games. But again,
you know, I guess you hope for ad Mitchell will
be that kind of a guy, but he he just
hasn't had the chance or cashed him when he's had
the chance. Ashton Douland was amazing last week, which should
which should surprise nobody. That's that's who he is.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
On our podcast today on CBS four and Fox fifty nine,
I I sort of mentioned I compared Ashton Dooland to
Jack Doyle to where you need that guy on your
roster that just does things that that yeah, some people
see him, but things that that people don't see. And
(15:52):
when you need something done, either Jack Doyle does it
or Ashton Dooland does it. Remember Zach Pastor was that
kind of a guy. And you know, I always say,
you can you need a couple of those guys. You
can't git too many of them and then you're just
a run of the middle team. But boy, those guys
when they're able to be the fourth receiver and your
(16:13):
top special teams guy. And again he should have. He
had a ninety eight yard touchdown called back for Granted
Loud on a kickoff uh so's It could have been
a really really special day. But that's why, that's why
just this group works well together, because Pierce goes down
and Mitchell's in the doghouse, so so Ashton Dulan steps
(16:34):
up and gives you such a great game. It was
the most he's played an offense, and you would if
you didn't know that, you would have known that. Uh,
just because of the way he handled it. He just
looked like he fit right in.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I mean, I Colt fans are kind of wondering if
maybe we're going to see you know, every former Bengal
that played for lou An Aroomo be a part of
this defense at some point.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Then Jermaine Pratt is the latest.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I said this, I mean, does he he has to
automatically be better than what they had, you know, outside
of Zaire Franklin to this point. Is is that fair
to say?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Yeah, yeah, because it's not really they've really not gotten
what they want. You know, we all thought it would
be Jalen Carlis and that's not happened. He's still on
IR and yeah, it hasn't worked. And they they they've
lessened the linebacker position by using more dbs, which is fine,
but you still you need quality play from your linebackers.
(17:36):
They haven't gotten it outside of Zaire. And I expect
Jermaine prattic starts on I do. I just it's not
like he's not been playing. He started four games for
the Raiders and then for whatever reason, they left him
home when they came here last weekend. So yeah, it's
okay to have former players from a decent from a
(17:57):
coordinator as long as they're the right one. Kilton was
a good pick up and then he gets hurt and
Germaine Pratt will be an upgrade. My only we were
talking in the press room and the only thing is
they had a chance to sign Jermaine Pratt like six
weeks ago when the Bengals cut him right and they didn't.
(18:19):
Uh so, I guess they were trying to give their
own players more of a chance to grow in the
position and it didn't work. And now you get you
get an experienced linebacker who started a ton been productive,
and yes, it's gonna be it's got to be an
upgrade because you just haven't got enough out of that
(18:40):
That site kickses I air.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, it's been a struggle.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Uh the money Badger, what do you think about the
transition they're making from a guy that was money himself
the entire time and then the jack assery of a
special teams play ended his season.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah, whenever you get guys, there's a reason they're out
the way or talk about that. But he's a good replacement.
I wish he had a stronger leg. I mean, he's
five or thirteen on fifty yarders. They got rid of
a guy in the off season because he couldn't kick
fifty yarders with Matt Gay. But again he came in
(19:23):
and he misses his last year with the torn hamstring.
He's passed at and apparently had a great workout and
you know, shame stacking new him with the Chargers. That
always helps. He was here in twenty one and kicked well.
That always helps. I'd forgotten until I look at that.
But they signed him as the undraft as an undrafted
rookie back in two thousand and eight pen and it
(19:44):
was to work with Vinitary for a year for training camps.
So he knows his way around. He's kicked well. I
think it will require them to readjust their thinking when
they get around midfield in how aggressive and how you
got pawn And you know, Joel Erickson brought up and
(20:06):
it's a good point that maybe the target line is
a thirty three now on kicking field goals, which is
around a fifty yard field goal. But because you can
only go on what a guy's done and he's not
been reliable outside of fifty he's like eight I think
he's like eighty eight percent on forty nine and inn
which is good, not great, it's good. But when you're
(20:29):
replacing the guy who right now was the best kicker
in the league. I realized it was five games, but
Spencer Trader was off the charts and reliable and although
him too, you weren't really sure what you had on
fifty yarders with him because you didn't have a lot
of attempts. But it's such, it's just a.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, you never want to take away what has been
a positive, and clearly he's been a positive and he
don't want to take that away.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
And what a great story it was, and you just
hate to see something like that go down and and
what might have been. And he gets his chance and
he's kicking well and the sort of a hometown kid
although he's not from here, but he lives here.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
So just a Shane That is my chapel of CBS,
FOI and Fox fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
He's on the andymore on the money, off group line.
Anything else stand out to you?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Hey, I didn't want to ask you this before we
go I know James wants me to go really quickly.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I asked this on Monday.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Who do you think has helped the other more Daniel
Jones and Shane Stikeen or Shane Styken and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
How about Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren. No I that's
a good Shane Syken probably. I think Shane has been
able to he saw what a lot of us didn't
see or didn't want to see on the reliability consistency,
and it's just worked. But it's worked because of Shane
(22:05):
and because Jones has got the best supporting cast, including
the augmentative line that he's had in his career.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
To Mike Chappel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine on.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The Andy More on the Mother Creer plot line, it
may I may have to come over in most and
property here in November at some point, so well, you know, Monte.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Or if if we get that ten inches of snow,
you can come over here and get my walks.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Colener I can do that too. It's good, buddy. I
appreciate you. We'll see you on Sunday. Mike.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You guys be well. I'll see you
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