December 10, 2025 • 56 mins
00:00 - 13:13 - Former Seahawks linebacker Chad Brown joins the show to help preview Colts-Seahawks! What does Chad think of the Colts bringing back Philip Rivers? Is there any chance this ends well, or is it destined for failure?
13:14 - 36:56 - Kevin Bowen from The Fan Morning Show joins JMV! What does Kevin think of Philip Rivers rejoining the Colts? Is there any chance this thing ends well? Does Kevin think Mooney Ward will return to the Colts this year, or at all, after his 3rd concussion of the season.
36:57 - 56:11 - Former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason joins the show! Boomer gives his thoughts on Philip Rivers and if he will start against the Seahawks. What does the Colts trade for Sauce Gardner look like in hindsight? And what does Boomer think of IU QB Fernando Mendoza?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Speaking of convenient. He's a
former NFL defensive player extraordinaire. He was here in Indy
for the Big Ten title game, so we can hit that,
and of course covers the Seahawks as well, one of
his former teams. He's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
His name is Chad Brownie joined us last week and
he's kind enough to do it again this week. Chad,
thank you for the time. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am fantastic?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Tell you guys, well, I got to ask you right off,
Philip Rivers, how do you think this is going to go?
For the forty four year old quarterback coming back to
the NFL for the Colts and probably playing significant if
not starting on Sunday against a team you've seen a
lot of in the Seahawks this season.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, I love the story of it. Is there a
Disney Indian at the end of this? I don't think so. Yeah,
to come off of your couch and try to play
the NFL quarterback after being on the couch as long
as he's been? Yeah? Can you throw routes on air
during the workout? Sure? Can you manipulate the pocket. Can
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you translate the speed of the game and process. It
just seems like this is just bound to fail. I
understand the relationship between he and Shangs, I can I
understand the thought of, hey, you know Riley Leonard, We'll
see what he's got with the bank that needs and
so this is probably as good of a plan B
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as they could come up with at this point of
the season. But it's just really hard to imagine that
somehow this has a movie ending to it where Philip
Rivers and the cults get a chance to hoist some
trophy at the end of the quite unlikely.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So what you're suggesting as a former NFL player or
chat is this may be the greatest story ever told
that there's some positively positivity as an end result Sunday right, it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Would have to be one greatest stories ever told. The
end that, well, yeah, I just don't see how that's possible.
You know. I laid my career my last year in
New England. It's very similar to Philip Rivers. I was
watching a New England games at home on my couch.
I had been released by the Patriots earlier that year,
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and linebacker got injured and I turned to my wife
and I said, I bet you. They called me five
minutes after this game is over, and the Patriots called me,
and I went back and played for the Patriots. But
the difference was I was on the Patriots during training camp.
I was on the team earlier that season. I was
thirty eight years old. I wasn't forty four years old.
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I played the year before with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
was an actual NFL football player, not a retile player
who's actually spent more time being dad than he has
him prepared to play an NFL game.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it is especially the way I mean even more magnified,
the way that the offensive line for the Colt's protected
or lack thereof Daniel Jones most recently. And also you
can attest to this the way this Seattle Seahawks defense,
especially magnified in the last two weeks, has played. This
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just seems like a horrific combination.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's certainly not the ideal way you want to come
up to the couch and play a football game, even
if you're Riley Leonard. This is not necessarily a defense
you want to face. The kind of pressure that they
bring that you typically only bring four guys, but you
don't know which four it's going to be. They'll have
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six or seven or if sometimes even eight guys at
the line of scrimmage, they'll drop out four. But again,
what four is it going to be? So if here
Philip Rivers, or rather Leonard doesn't have a whole lot
of experience with Philip Rivers, you haven't done this in
a long time, to go against that defense with their
simulated pressure. Again, for the most part, you know it's
going to be for, but you can't figure out which
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four it's going to be. To deal with that as
your first game, that's got to be an incredibly upfill battle.
And so yeah, again it's a fun story. It's certainly
something great to talk about, but the chances of this
ended up well a very low percentage for me.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Now he is Chad Brown, the former nfler covers the Seahawks,
so also cover the Big Ten title game, of which
we'll get to with IU winning that over Ohio State
Saturday night in just a second. Both sides of the
football Seahawks playing right now. If you're going to compare
them to other teams, for example, not just in the NFC,
but throughout the NFL landscape. How well are the Seahawks
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playing presently?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
The Shelves are playing really really well when you have
won i think seven of their last eight, when you
shut out an NFL team, I know it was MaTx
Grosmer under center for the Vikings, but still it's hard
to shut out an NFL team like they did at
home against the Vikings. With a chance now to to
completely sweep the AFC South, they're playing really really good
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football offensively. You know, Sam Donald has a bit of
a turnover issue, but when that doesn't crop up, they're
as difficult as anybody in the league to do it
because they play good special teams. They play a great
brand of defense, They put pressure on your quarterback. They
haven't allowed one hundred yard rusher in like twenty three games.
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That's amazing. And then offensively, they've got a quarterback who
can gal of that. They've got a receiver who with
a mismatch for every defensive back I've seen all year long.
And they've got a run game. While it may not
be super consistent, they can wear you down and they
run the ball physically. So they got a lot of
things going well for them.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, they do, and then how about this big magnified
to Chad, with the secondary of the Colts being so compromised,
with our various ward on ir Sauce Gardner being out,
I mean that it makes things look even more severe
I think going to the Pacific Northwest on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Right, So, not only are we talking about a Seahawks
team that's playing well, not only we talking about a
stadium that is very difficult for any opposing team to
play in. The twelves, as they call their fans out
there in Seattle, are usually good for a couple of
false starts on the opposing offense. And then yeah, now
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you have to talk about the injury situation with the Colts.
We've addressed the quarterback injury situation. Now you got to
talk about the get hit the back, and so who's
going to take Jack and Smith and Jibrook, Who's going
to take Jason on the various ways they line them up,
in the various ways they use them. That clear connection
he had with Sam Darmel, there's no obvious person in
that secretary who is going to be able to handle
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him insistently all game long. So yeah, it just looks
like It's going to be a tough weekend for the
Colts and for the Colts fans. This season started with
such promise with Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones and all
the great things that they were able to do, the
forest bucking up front of the defense, and things were
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all going in the right direction. And now here late
in the season, things are starting to all fall apart,
and it's just got to be a frustrating situation. We're
all involved, all.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Right, did Chad Brown joins us give us a little
insight on what the Colts might be able to cobble
together to get something done coming up on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I mean what you would what?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I guess the Seahawks could most fear in the Colts
hanging around and maybe cashing in surprisingly enough on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
What would that be?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, I mean, you've got pieces in place. So if
Jonathan Taylor were to break the see OFWK Street and
get a hundred yard game, be able to have some
time of possession, be able to control the temple of
the game, and if you run the ball, well, guess what,
now you can go play action. You got to tie
in and Tyler Warren, who can catch the ball and
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be effective with some yards after catch. So if you're
thinking about either Riley Leonard or Philip Rivers, you want
to earn a ball off Jonathan Taylor and then you
want to tie. You want to tie in in the
middle of the field is going to make easy throws, easy.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Completions for you.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So those two pieces together right there. If they're able
to get that combination going, that's a difficult day for
a lot of NFL defenses, even if good as the
Seahawks are playing. So there's that doctor and then we've
talked about it earlier. Sam Ronald can go on a
run of turnovers, he can have a four interception game,
he can have some poor ball security in the pocket
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and fumble it. I saw Minnesota Vikings blitz being very effective.
Despite the Seahawks having a lead in that game and
getting some defensive score. The offense never really got going
against the Vikings, so they were able to get pressure
on Sam Donald. They shot them more than a few times,
they got the ball out. So there's certain things that
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can be capitalized on by this Colt's team to get
a victory. Again, just like the Philip Rivers situation, not
being a high chance for success. These things I just
listed here, All these followed into place for the Colts. Likely,
probably not. I wouldn't give it a high chance for
success either.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
All right, Chad Browns with us before I'll let you go.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You were there to witness its are you they're winning
the Big Ten title game overall Ohio State. Let's start
with the defense, because obviously you come from that side
of the football. How impressed were you with? What are
you accomplished against Ohio State of that offense?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Saturday night?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So I had a chance to do IU in the
Illinois earlier this season, and I left that game thinking
this is the best team I've seen all year. And
then as the season went on, I went to Alabama
and called multiple Alabama games and Oklahoma games and all
of the tops of college football outside of Ohio State,
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and I said, this defense is legit. They're able to
deal with a top team in the country from a
physical standpoint, which I didn't think they were up to
task last year, but this year they were. And this
off Wolds and Fernandum and those it can score points
and the special teams issues that played them in the
playoffs last year, they seemingly have fixed a lot of
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those as well. So I gave them a great chance
to win this game against Ohio State, and then that
defense really held up its into the bargain. They outside
of a couple of splash plays to Jeremiah Smith, Ohio
State could not get anything going whatsoever. And so the
Indiana is an amazingly well coached football team that can
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win in all three phases weekend in weekend?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Does Mendoza win the Heisman Chad?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I would have to think so. I would have to
think so. Obviously, there was a lot hinging on the
outcome of this gamp against Ohio State and which quarterback
found a way to play the best. So Mendoza I
think has probably filled it up. Considering where Indiana's rank,
what a big part he's been to it, some of
his earlier games where he's you know, nineteen of twenty
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and twenty of twenty three and amazing completion percentages like that,
it seems like the trophy should be hit.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
All right, what chance do you get on you as
far as the playoff is concerned, to move forward and
maybe try to win it all.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I think they've got enough weapons to really get this done.
When you got Cooper interrat on the outside. You know,
Charlie Becker doesn't have great numbers, but he seems to
step up in big games what most needed. He was
huge against Ohio State. Again. They played good defense, which
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if they're four to you know, win a close game,
a possession game, a time of possession game. I can
think they can do that and lean on their defense
and put the shootout. There's enough weaponsry on offense, and
then when it comes down to coaching, which coach is
going to make the key move at the right time.
I got a lot of trust in Kirk and Gay,
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so I give them probably the number one chance to
end the season as number one and win the CFP.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's incredible right there.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Chad Brown, the former nfler, works with the Seahawks, does
compass media networks too, as he was in town last
weekend and awesome to us our good friend from Arizona
on the Andymore Automotive Group file line. We shall keep
in touch and see what happens coming up on Sunday,
and hopefully Philip Rivers when he does play, because he
will stay somewhat upright.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Hopefully, Yes, that would nice come out of that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm okay, I would love the story to keep going,
so hopefully that works out.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Thank you very much, as always mad the past two weeks,
it's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And he's already done his final time. He's from the
Fan Morning so he along with Jeff Rickard and James
Boyd Kevin Bowen's on the Eddy Moore Automotive Group hootline.
How did it feel being a last time we're in
this building today, buddy.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Boy, I'm not gonna lie. I just kind of assumed
that we'd be back in there tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm sorry, let me get that out.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Go ahead, continue. I had to laugh. That's good.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, I will miss it. I am a big fan
of working downtown. I'm a big fan of how fortunate
we are. I think to call life on the Circle home,
and even though our view has changed.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Now this building stings, I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
To go over a circle. I'm gonna miss it. I'm
gonna miss the downtown parking. Honestly, I'm gonna miss the
book of to Bepo Aroma as i will.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Miss the party.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Hey, i will miss the centralized parking, There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
But you know the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm good to go. And I'm gonna tell you what
you're gonna absolutely love. I don't know if you've been
been in the building yet for a little tour, but
you're gonna love what that thing looks like and what
they're gonna do to it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Promise.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah. I went in there last week and it is
super nice. I mean, it's definitely nice and what we
got right now, So yeah, that asked is cool. And
I do think you know, it's spacious in the studio,
so you know, we got four of us in there
in the morning. Yeah, it seems like at times we're
all breathing on each other. So you get dyked in
(14:47):
alone in his own little room prussing buttons and doing
his thing. I pray for that that room. But uh, yeah,
meet Jeff and James will have some nice, spacious leg room,
if you will. So yeah, I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And keV I also they were kind enough. I don't
know if you noticed this. In the middle seat in
our new studio, they they installed a banana seat like
the Huffey that jeff Rickord normally rides, so he'll feel
he'll feel right at home there.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Now, finally, I'll tell you what I did.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Walk into the new studio up there and thought to myself, man,
Jeff could fit his speed bike is Endurance Bike, all
his bikes there with how much room is up there?
So yeah, seven am tomorrow, I guess I hope there's
I hope there's a lot of engineers in there ready
to help.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Us, speaking of Endurance Bike.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And this is not a shot because I'm very interested
in Sunday. But it is clear to me that maybe
Philip Rivers has not been on one here recently.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I think is.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Fair to say? Is it fair to say?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I think the dad bot is serving Uncle Phil quite
quite well. You know. A few weeks back, I decided
to consume a large amount of Donato's pizza one night
and thought to myself, ma'am, I might not move from
this couch for about three hours.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And yeah, not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
When I saw Uncle Phil today, that was the first
thought that went through my head. So I believe he's
a little north of his plane weight since he last
put on a uniform. But as Philip Rivers accurately said today,
and only the way he can say it, it ain't
like I ever ran away from anybody anyways.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, I just as much as I really want to
love this, and I know you do too, because we
want the interest, and believe me, you and I both
we would like to see some really fun stuff happen
with this group because clearly with that start, you feel
like they deserve more as they're circling the drain or
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now down the drain right now.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
But I can't get.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Past how badly this is going to end because we have,
I think, such evidence of the past asked about, you know,
these types of circumstances, how badly it normally does end.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean there's zero, zero precedent whatsoever of the
you know, of anything of this magnitude, and you know
it already was spiraling, you know, outside of the playoff picture,
and you know you had other injuries, not just Daniel
Jones related, but you know that game obviously wasn't trending
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towards the win when Jones even got hurt. So yeah,
it's just it feels a bit inevitable, uh maybe entertaining
over the final four weeks and watching Philip Rivers try
to attempt something unprecedented. I mean, there is an element
of like if you just lived in a vacuum, John, Really,
there are a lot of scenarios out there where the
Colts to make the playoffs with just two more wins.
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And you know, when you say that two out of
four wins two out of four games being a win,
that's not that ludicrous of a thought. But of course
you look at the schedule, you look at the quarterback situation,
that's where it becomes, you know, really really daunting. And
you know, I know Shane second, Philip Rivers, they you know,
still definitely expressed, you know, questions, and I think he
gets it. But I also think he's here too, just
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football obsessive individuals that really believe that they can chefs
match their way into We'll find advantages pre snap, we'll
get into the right play. And as soon as I
know it's a bad play, all dirt it all, you know,
go in.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The fetal position.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
But there's part of me it's like, man, that sounds good.
And have you seen Seattle's defense play They haven't allowed
a touchdown last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, it's just a really bad I think everything around
this seems to be to be bad, and especially I
think it's magnified considering the way the Colts have been playing,
and let's go all the way back to the Pittsburgh game.
It kind of seemed like that the Steelers gave everybody
a bit of a peak behind the curtain, and for
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the most part, since that point, this thing has not
been the same.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
No, no, again, it was strending. I think in this direction. Obviously,
you look at a run game. You know, you've lost
four or five literally every loss you haven't been able
to run it with Taylor, So that's been a correlation.
And then I think lately you're starting to see more
and more you know, red flags from a defensive standpoint,
and you know, the inability to win one on one
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pass rush opportunities, more big plays, you know, all of
that I think has added up for you. So again,
you've lost four or five, you know your eighth right
now in the playoff picture, that game on Monday night
was huge in terms of a blow to your playoff chances.
I mean, you need the Chargers to lose. Weirdly enough,
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the philp Rivers connection is fun in the different direction
with how that is right now. So yeah, I I
you know, there is part of me that I don't
necessarily look at this in the JEFT Saturday Light because
I think when you're down three quarterbacks, there the level
of desperation, like basic word debating. Would you rather see
Philip Rivers place Sunday or Brett Rippin? And if Brett
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Rippon's last name was Bowen, people would say, you know Rippin,
obviously people know that last name. But like, there's just
there's a little hope when you turn to your fourth quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Or Heineke or Ritter or you know, somebody like that
that would give us. And really I felt the same
way about sam Ellinger because sam Ellinger, I think would
get similar, if not worse results. So I would at
least would rather be entertained, if that's fair to say.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Yeah, I mean there is part of me that, like
the Riley Leonard thing is curious to me, you know,
if you look at it, and I don't know if
the cult is sent out their injury for yet or not,
but rather Leonard practiced today he said that he would
not have limitations. So part of me is like, well,
you know, in ninety nine out of one hundred instances,
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if you're starting back practices on a Wednesday, that dude
is playing in the game. So I have come around
to like the Leonard might not be as hurt I
think as we thought earlier in the week. I just
think shame sichen is caught up in the Philip Rivers aura.
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You know, maybe isn't the best statement to use, but
I think he sees the team right now.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's lost four or five.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
They need juice, and he feels like Philip Rivers will
give juice at least until the ball's kicked off on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I just don't know what juice you think you're going
to get unless he actually plays. And I don't know
why Philip Rivers would jack with it unless he has
assurances that he's going to play.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's the only stuff that makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think it'll be Philip Rivers starting.
I guess to clarify, but I also assume that Riley
Leonard wasn't practicing today. Like I was surprised to hear
that he was practicing. I figured there was a health
component that was playing into this a little bit more
with Leonard, But you know, again, based off what he
said today, he had no limitations. I don't know if
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he'll be listening as full or not. But yeah, it's
a bad aspect to it. I think this kind of
adds to they are all in on the Philip Rivers
is going to be the starting quarterback on Sunday, and
every sign that I have seen here over the last
few days points to that.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
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to believe that people say all the time, well, this
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is just Ballard and Steichen trying to save their gig.
I honestly, and I said this before, I think that
mid season trade deadline deal kind of save their gig.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I did.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I mean, I thought, all right, if they were, if really,
if Carly orsa Gordon in ownership, if they were worried
about this moving forward, there was zero way you part
with two first rounders in the fashion in which they
did for Sauce Gardener.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Even if you're in the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Moment living in the euphoria of greatness, which that's exactly
how that was team playing, you know, getting off to
a seven and one start. So I don't think this
is a result of a general manager and a head
coach trying to bring somebody in, crossing their fingers and
hope they can remain at the helm, do you.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, I thought the trade sent the message that everybody
would be back. That's what I thought. Now, you know,
as you get away from the trade and as you
assess the situation and if this plays out in the
manner that it is, like if I told you at
the start of the year, John, the Colts will have
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a playoff collapse, or I guess an in season collapse
to miss the playoffs like the NFL hasn't seen for
over a decade, you would have thought, well, there's no
chance that everyone is back for twenty twenty six. And
right now that's where it's going. I mean, it is
going in the direction of the biggest in season collapse
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to miss the playoffs that we've seen in the NFL
for over a decade. So you know, there is that
aspect of like the further we get removed from the
trade and just the general. You know, you for if
you will, the seven to one start, will any of
that start to be the most recent feeling, because you know,
probably all human beings we react most out we're feeling
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in those recent, you know times. In the NFL. It
seems like eons agill that this team was seven and
one and going to play Pittsburgh. And again, you know,
you could say that really, I mean, they were out
of the playoffs when Daniel Jones got hurt. You know,
It's not like you can just say at the end
of the year if the team missed the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's not like you can say, well, they can say
he was compromised though.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Well sure, but you know again, part of that is
life in the NFL. I mean, will might be a
playoff team with you know, Davis Mills, you know, having
started and won three games. So I don't I don't
know if I completely uh will go for that excuse.
So it would be quite something. If no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Think they have to go for it at all, Buddy,
I think they'll use it. I just don't think we
have to go for it, and I'm sure of us won't.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, Yeah, it'll be quite something though if this plays
out and goes in the direction that is currently going
and you've missed the playoffs, and you know, for you
to survive the biggest collapse you know again an NFL
team has had in season and over ten years like
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that gets added to the resume. Like I think this
all was at the start of the year for you know,
ballad and psyching to be back, well, that means you
had to have had something pop positive to the resume,
i e. A division title, finally being over i e.
You know whatever, a playoff appearance, a playoff win, and
really the only thing positive is really good first two
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months of the season. You ended the week one curse
and about it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I just think there are so many things you can
get into that makes the likability, I mean really the
success rate of what you'd even look at for the
next couple of years kind of looks like you and
I and like the old school Jay Arthur's Hot Bod
contest on a Thursday night, you know what I mean.
It's just yeah, you just kind of look at it
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as and I hate to say it this way because
it's been a long time coming and there are so
many different turns this could have taken where Chris is
no longer here, or Shane is no longer here, or
we're not going through all these quarterback situations as what
we've gone through, so many different avenues that could have
been taking or things that could have happened. I just
(26:58):
don't think this is going to be one of those
massive changes that we we ultimately see. I guess my
mind could change if this thing turns into an absolute disaster,
but hell, I think that's what we're standing in right now.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yeah. I mean I will sit here and say I
have no idea how carl Ercay Gordon is going to react,
just because I mean, I know Carly a little. I've
never There's.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
No evidence of it too. I mean you had evidence
of Jim, you don't have evidence here.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, there's just no past precedent with her. But again,
her signs in season would point to this discontinuing, and
you know, I don't. I'm a little torn on the well,
you know, if carlysis in her office at the end
of the year and she debates this of a you know,
(27:44):
part of the reason I'm going to run it back
is because I think it's a disservice to the new
regime to give them, you know, rebuilding papers without two
first round picks, Like I mean, is that smart? Is
that not smart? Does that all of a sudden indirectly
become Oh that's good news for you know, ballad and
psyching again, are they grouped together? Would they opt for
(28:06):
the one like kind of weird rare occurrence where you
you know today buy to the GM, but let the
new GM evaluate the head coach outside of San Francisco
with John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, those tcenes, it never
really work. So probably not like you know, all these
questions that you know, we probably didn't need a debate
(28:27):
in recent months, they're not like back on and you know,
it really started to transpire once Daniel Jones went down
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, by the way, and preparing for Sunday to sauce
Gardner no participation the calf, Brayden Smith, Nick and concussion.
As keV mentioned, Riley Leonard was back in full to
day deforce. Buckner limited that first practice in a month
as you reference to, and we'll see about his possible
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return on Sunday, and Sharvarius Ward goes on ir got
to make you wonder whether or not we're ever going
to see or the NFL where ever see the.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Likes of him.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Again, considering his circumstances and a couple of things also
makes you wonder. You know, Chris Ballad has always been
set against really diving deeply into free agency, and clearly
with Ward that hasn't paid off this season. That trade
deadline deal, which he hasn't done a lot of, if
anything of significantly speaking, that has been a hamstringer for
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the future.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
So it's weird how and I wanted every bit of it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I mean, I welcomed all that in but it has
really really dissembled any sort of progress you can possibly
see with this group moving forward.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah, I mean, I do think cam Binen has been
an unquestioned hit and that is something that this team
needed to find stability at safety, and so major credit
to Chris Ballard for that. Obviously. The Ward situation, yeah,
I don't think you can really be too too critical
of it. I mean, if some really want to nitpick
and say, well, whatever, he's dealt with a lot and
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he was getting older in age, I don't know. I
think that's super highsight twenty twenty and a bit unfair.
But you know, as far as Ward is concerned, Yeah,
I mean I can't recall John and maybe Austin Colley
would fit into this boat, but I can't recall last
time the Colts have had a player inconcussion protocol three
times in three months. So yes, I think, unfortunately the
future question of him putting on an NFL uniform again
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is there. And you know, unfortunately, I do think at
times those sorts of decisions for pro athletes, particularly NFL players,
where they're at in their careers matter in regards to
some of that. And if you look at Ward, he's
twenty nine years old and he's signed two big time
contracts in the NFL, you know, that might be different
if you're the twenty three year old undrafted free agent
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who whatever you know, didn't come for much and it
needs to turn this professional career into a lot. So again,
those are probably conversations for later in the year. But
stay just awful news on that. And you know, if
you want to speak to Sunday, you're facing the best
receiver in football without you know, Mooney Ward obviously, and
it looks like Sauce Gardner will miss the second week.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Kevin Bowen Andy more out of an out of group hoodline.
So Daniel Jones looking ahead, I said this earlier this week.
I felt that all three would be back, But clearly
he's not going to get the amount of money that
we once thought he was going to get. However, if
you're the Colts, do you even mess with it at all?
And I'm not even talking about how long it's going
to take him to get back, but he does have
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a scroll of injury history here that maybe in this case,
this may be it in terms of what the Colts
might be thinking with Daniel Jones, Where are you with this?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yeah? I think that's the one aspect to all of this.
That you go back to that trade for Sasce Gardner,
and when you made that move, you indirectly told all
of us we have ye unbelievell believe in Daniel Jones.
And at that point, and I get there were time
constraints on it because the trade deadline was coming up, obviously,
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but at that point, Daniel Jones had played two months
of good football, and if you look at his career,
he's really never made it to Thanksgiving of a season
either playing good football to the point where he didn't
get benched or was healthy enough now this year that
lasted what you know, a week after Thanksgiving, two weeks
after Thanksgiving, So that to me is the one element
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of the trade that you know, even when it occurred,
it was like, oh boy, you're really going off of
a small Daniel Jones sample size to make that move.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
You know, in two months, you know, when the off
season got here, maybe the Jets wouldn't have said that
trade was possible for you. So I understand that, you know,
not everything can happen on your watch, but Daniel Jones
is just the only thing consistent about his career to
this point has probably been injuries, and you know, unfortunately
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he had them at Duke as well, So I do
think you can't ignore that. I think it would certainly impact,
you know, contract negotiations, all of those things. So yeah,
I do think that's a real, real part of the
conversation early.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Should be Well, Unfortunately you and I were talking about
this yesterday. Stephen Daily is out of the college football
Playoff with that injury sustained. I guess after the game
on Saturday, the effect in closing.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Here that has on IU and what was a.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Terrific defensive effort and the terrific defense the entire year,
and your thoughts on the Hoosiers presently and moving forward
into the Rose Bowl coming up on New Year's Day.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Well, I mean, let's start their defense. I mean, I
said a Monday, I think, I know, Mendoz is probably
win the Heisman. I think I think their defense is
the most impressive aspect of their team, and in particular
it's probably that D line group, and Daily has been,
you know, really the the leader of the group. I
don't think that Camara has had as good of a
year as he had last year, so you know, and
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try to replace him. You know, maybe Khmara has been
a little banged up. Does the you know, three weeks
off help him? You know, they do have a lot
of bodies, and there are a lot of good players,
you know, whether it's Tucker or Wheeler, you know, even
some of the guys that they so then I lost
kelln Wyatt for the year, but there's a lot of
defensive line them that they do have, and I think
Pat Coons has done an outstanding job, you know with
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that group. But still, I mean, it is a definite loss.
And this is kind of part of now what I
think it's tested in the new era of college football
and what and what tests you as a program of
you know, can you withstand the sixteen whatever seventeen game
grind of it? Like when Notre Dame got the national
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title last year, I think they were down seven starters
and to all Americans like, I mean, that's a lot
to get all the way to the national title. But
that's part of it now, was having to play, you know,
three four extra games against really good teams where you're
not resting guys in the fourth quarter. Obviously, the daily
thing was just a horrific freak accident and honestly one
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of the worst injuries I've ever seen when you consider
how it happened there. So they've even's been great all year.
And again their d line room is probably the one
room that has a lot of depth to a standard.
But still I don't want to undermind how great.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
He's been keV.
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Tomorrow morning, you guys are going to be on a
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I mean, as long as everything's working good and I'm
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in a little bit of the hustle and the bustle
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Well, I have a feeling, like I said earlier to you,
Mark Dyson solo in his own little studio is going
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I Texas Spencer earlier thanked him. That's awesome, thank you,
I told you on air, and that's one of my
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they might have to take the back seat after Notre
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Speaker 4 (37:13):
Thanks for having me on. I'm doing well and certainly
had a lot of fun with Peyton shooting that this
past summer. And Peyton's quite the comedian and so easy
to work off of for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I say he like is reinventing roles before that
Dick Budkus and Bubba Smith and those long before him,
I think kind of installed, but he's taking it to
a different level here.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
The thing I appreciated about Peyton is that he loves
ball when he loves the NFL, and he has the
ability financially, personality wise, and the understanding of how to
put something like Omaha Productions together. And he and his
brother Eli deserve a lot of credit for that because
they're making more money now than they ever did when
they played. And rightfully so, I mean, and just spending
(38:01):
a couple hours with Peyton, because that's all it took
for us to shoot that Yeah, shows me that he
understands exactly how things need to get done quickly, decisively.
They have a great script writer, they have great ideas,
and it always goes back to the history of the NFL,
and that's what I love so much about Peyton and
what he's doing with Peyton's Place, and.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
You could check that out.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
The latest edition of Peyton's Place is Boomer Asiasin joins us.
The last time you're on, we talked about the renaissance
campaign of Daniel Jones, which since we last spoke has ended.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And now it's just kind of the.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Last eight or so years of the Colts in a
nutshell here, everything kind of goes hey wire and wild,
and you have Philip Rivers that I think is likely
going to start coming up on Sunday. So let's start
here what would all this entail for a quarterback having
to come back and then start a football game after
not playing for the past five years, no matter what
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level we're talking about here.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Boomer, Well, well, let's first start with Daniel Jones. When
we last talked about Daniel and he was playing well,
I told you one of the things that was the
problem here in New York is that he couldn't make
it through a season. He kept getting hurt, and every
time he got hurt, the team would fall apart. You know,
the team loved him, they respected him, they appreciated his leadership,
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the way he went about his business. But it was
a neck injury, it was a knee injury. I mean,
these were serious injuries. And it meant so much to
him this year that he went out there with a
broken fibula to try to play through it. Maybe he
puts pressure on his left achilles and next thing you know,
that snap. So making prayers out to him, for sure,
we are sick to our stomach for him. We were
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hoping for the best. We thought, you know, this could
be one hundred and fifty million dollar contract coming his way,
given the way that he had started the first Ay game.
So I mean, I feel sick for the young man.
He's a great young great young guy, and hopefully he'll
be able to restart his career in another year or so.
Now that being said. That being said, you know you're
Philip Rivers. You haven't played football in eighteen hundred days.
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Think about that. The last game that he played was
back on January ninth, twenty twenty one, and it was
versus the Bills. You guys remember that game. That was
a fourth and goal if I remember, and the the
I think the Colts won for it, and Philip overthrew.
I forget whoever threw in the back of the end zone,
and that was Frank Wright was his coach. Yeah, and
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you know, unfortunately for Chris Ballard the Colts organization, they
are fans out there. This is nothing new for them.
I mean, you guys have been through this for the
last eight or nine years, ever since Andrew Luck decided
to retire. That you know, you think you finally got
the guy, and then all of a sudden, the guy
gets hurt and now you have to turn back to
the you know, the clocks. And I don't know what
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kind of condition Phillips in I'm assuming that he took
very good care of himself, that he probably looked reasonable
on the practice field. But if he has to start
a game, I mean, I have to be realistic here.
His chances for any sort of success. I mean it's
less than fifty to fifty I think. And hopefully they'll
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lean on Jonathan Taylor, which I'm sure they will, and
do a lot of play action passing and not put
Philip back there in a shotgun and protecting him with
five guys. That would be insane to me. So Shane
Steiken's going to have to go into his bag of
tricks if in fact, Philip ends up being the starter
for them.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I do think, and I don't know how you feel
about this. Do you think he comes back if he
doesn't believe that he's going to be installed immediately? Do
you think he even Jack's with this whatsoever? If there's
not that belief there. I mean, we don't know him,
we're not inside that brain. But what could he be
thinking surrounding this comeback, because there's a lot of ramifications
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from it.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, look, there's ego involved
in everything else, and he probably loves being wanted, you know,
I thought maybe they'd call Matt Ryan, but he weighs
about a buck twenty. Watching him on CBA now it's
like he couldn't play football because he'd probably get cut
in half. But and I know that the Colt actually
tried him that last year with Frank, So I don't know.
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This is just a weird kind of deal. It's it's
a desperation move. There is no other choice other than
maybe Brett Rippon. Maybe they start him if they feel
like Philip's not ready. I mean, they're playing against the Seahawks,
who are one of the best teams in the league,
and they're playing in Seattle. With the defense that gets
after the quarterback, they have a lot of sacks. I mean,
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if Philip does play in this game, whether he's starting
it or ends up finishing it. If he does finish it,
I don't know. You're asking You're asking an awful lot,
and I think he's really taking just an incredible risk
if he steps on that football field.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Did it shock you the moves and did you.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Tell it didn't shock me? Because you know, there's there's desperation,
and there's desperation, and I think you know, given the
fact that the Colts have had a really good year
up until their last three games. I can understand why
Chris Ballard and the Colts would go down this road.
You know, they're going to try to save their season,
and this is it's nothing but a desperation move. I
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don't know how else you would describe it. And I'm
not saying they're doing the right thing or the wrong thing.
I'm just saying they're maybe doing the only thing that
they think gives them, you know, half of a chance
to win some of these games. And when you look
at their schedule, their strength of schedule here coming down
the end of the season is one of the toughest,
if not the toughest, in the league. And you look
at their last three games that they've lost. All you
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have to do is look at the giveaways, the sacks
in the past five games, and that tells you all
you need to know about this offense that seems to
have fallen apart for some reason and lost their way.
And I think a lot of that obviously has to
do with the injury of Daniel Jones, not just the achilles,
but the fibula injury that leads to him losing one
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of the most important aspects of his game, and that's
the ability to move and run with the football.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
That is Boomers, Sias and of the fan in New York,
CBS Sports Network and more. You're catching him with Andy
Moore Auto Motive Group Hotline. You're having a conversation I think,
on your show about what it would take to return,
like five years after I think you were out of
the NFL or whatever, you hadn't thrown a football and
what it entails. And I know that was kind of
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a funny conversation, but at the same time it was
ringing so true. There's one thing to talk about it
or to throw it to nobody or to throw to the
equipment guy when you're all out there alone on your field,
but it's another thing to go against the defense that
hasn't allowed to score in like the last two games
and really comes hard after the quarterback. It is absolutely
shocking to think for me that Rivers will be out
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there on Sunday. But then again, I have to understand
this is the Colts, and really there's nothing that would
shock me decision wise about their path any longer.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So I actually expected Boom.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Well, you know the other thing too, and I don't
know if they would be thinking this way, you know,
they may just say throw Brett Ripping out there. I
don't know, maybe get Philip in the game somewhere along
the line. I don't know. I can't put my own
brain in Shane Steiken's head and what he and Chris
Ballard are talking about. You know, Seattle's only given up
nine points, as you were pointing out, in the last
two games, and that's the fewest in the two games
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span since twenty and fourteen. That's how good their defense
has been playing. And I always say this, You know,
you can look at strength of schedule, but what does
that strength of schedule look like when that team arrives
to the stadium. So in the case of the Colts,
they have a very good record, so you say, okay,
well they got that would make them a tough out,
that would be a that would be a big problem.
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But the Colts come in now losing three in a
row and losing their starting quarterback and may have to
rely on a forty four year old quarterback. So where
does that really actually put that strength of schedule situation
in play here? It doesn't. I think this is when
you want to exactly catch the Colts, and this is
the Seahawks benefit from this so and by the and
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on the other side, everybody's healthy and Jackson Smith and
Jigbush showed back up again last week. Sam Darnold has
played great for this team. I wonder if I think,
in the back of my mind, you know, maybe we
kind of give up this game. You're not thinking give
up the game, especially if you're a player putting the
uniform on, but maybe internally they're saying, you know, we're
probably going to lose this game. Let's see if we
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can make a final push those last three games when
we're playing teams within our division. But man, I mean,
it's just this is such an impossible situation for the Colts.
And I understand desperate times require desperate measures. And I
would say I'm rooting for Philip. I want him to
do well, but to expect anything spectacular out of him
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is truly unrealistic.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Does this from the outside looking in for you appear
to be a general manager and a head coach that
may be trying to save what possibly.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Could be the end for them as everything has fallen apart.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Is this part of the desperation move that you view
from both coach and general manager here and Andy No.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I don't, I don't. I think it's a really unfortunate
set of circumstances. And you know, Chris Ballard, look, you
know he was part of firing my one of my
best friends in the whole world, Frank Reich. I hold
no ill will against that at all with him. I
know he's a really good general manager. I know that
he's built up a really good roster over the years.
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Frank always got the support that he needed from Chris
until you know, you know, mister Hearsay decided, you know,
enough's enough, and you know it's all. It always comes
back to the same thing. You know, who's the quarterback.
And when you look at the top twelve or fourteen
teams and you look at their healthy quarterbacks that are productive,
those are the ones that are always going to go
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to the playoffs. And unfortunately for the Colts, it's been
the same thing now ever since Andrew Luck retired. So
I don't think Shane Steiken or Chris Ballard would be
in jeopardy. I really don't think that. And I don't
know if you know the new owner out there standing
on the sideline, she'd gets it. I think she understands
what has happened here. I mean, she seems like a
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very you know, intuitive person, seems like somebody that's really
gotten into the game of football, and she sees the
desperation in the stress that are on the faces. I'm
sure of her GM and her head coach. So I mean,
it's a really unfortunate set of circumstances. I don't think
they change. I just think that they have to find
themselves who they believe can be their next quarterback. And
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obviously next year is not going to be Daniel Jones
because he's not going to be ready.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So boomersiza with us. I thought a tail of the
tape happened at the NFL trade deadline, and I think
if you believe regardless of the circumstances here since Boom
and whatever, you think about Sauce Gardner, who is now
out with an injury. But I think when you say, okay,
you can trade these two first rounders of the future
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and bring in the guy because you want to win
in the now, and we've seen things dynamically change really
a one eighty from that point in time and now.
But I think when you do that, that to me
you all most tell everybody that these are my guys
for the future. I mean, maybe things can change, but
I don't know how much they will. Considering what was
allowed by carle Ursa Gordon back during the NFL trade deadline,
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that's kind of how I view it and short sided thinking.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
I guess in this case, well, I think they were
going for it, and I think they felt like they
needed one thing and that was going to be a
shutdown corner. Now from the other side, the Jets side,
which we cover obviously every day here, and the Jets are,
you know, a mega disaster once again, just like they
have been for the last ten years, and as their
season winds down, they fall apart, and we're kitting kind
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of used to it. We actually thought that the general manager,
Darren Moujie, did a great job at the trade deadline,
trading both Sauce Gardner to the Calls and then of
course Quinn Williams to the Dallas Cowboys and acquiring the
assets they need to rebuild this franchise and to try
to get their own franchise quarterback. So we felt like
the Jets did the one hundred percent right thing, and
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again it's just really unfortunate that a very talented player
ends up, you know, straining a calf. And I don't
know if your listeners feel this way out there, but
I've said this a thousand times here in New York.
When their calf is involved, the next thing that goes
is the achilles. And that's why you have to be really,
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really really careful with an achilles or a calf injury.
And you know, you saw that with Tyres Halliburton. We
saw it, you know, last year with the Boston Celtics.
We've seen it, you know, so many times, Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, any sort of calf injury can easily lead
to a PopEd achilles. And that's the last thing that
you would want to have happen to Sauce Gardners. So
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again three injuries too, by the way, to Forrest Buckner.
That's another huge injury. So those are things that I'm
sure missus Dersy or you say, gordon Is basically has
to take into account when it comes to, you know,
whether or not she's going to blow out the whole
front office and the coaching Steff. I just don't see
that happening. I don't think that would be a prudent move.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm going to double back to Daniel Jones. I happen
to think that Daniel Jones, who will resign here and
clearly not for the amount of money that he would
have resigned for here, But I think that he resigns here.
I think they like him enough, and I think next year,
I think they're going to wait. I think really all
three quarterbacks that have been in the fold, that includes
in this case Riley Leonard who's also dinged up in
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Anthony Richardson. I think all three of these dudes are
going to be back coming up next year.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
That's at least what because.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
You look at the free agency on the lack of assets,
I don't know really what choice unless they do blow
it up the Colts are going to have with that
in mind.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Yeah, Well, the only thing that I would say in
reverse to Daniel Jones, it's the same thing. It's you know,
what's it going to hurt next door two years from now?
Because I doubt he'll play next year. I mean, I
know that Deshaun Watson had the same injury around the
same time last year, and he is just getting onto
the onto the practice field now, and they're not going
to put him out on the field in these last
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four games regardless. So I think that Daniel would be
in the same spot. Maybe he does sign a contract
with the Colts. Maybe he takes a year off and
doesn't sign and then resigns back with the Colts. I
don't know. I don't know what that situation's going to encounter,
because whatever they give him, they're going to have to
absorb on the salary cap and there's a whole other
set of circumstances that you got to take into account.
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But you know, my thing with Daniel Jones would be,
I can't give you a long term, big money, guaranteed contract.
I just can't because your history is such that you
have serious injuries that forces you to lead, You lose
an inordinate amount of games, and usually the team collapses
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around you when that happens. And that's been his moniker unfortunately,
in his entire career, except the one year that they
went to the playoffs and they beat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
TA boomer assize him with us Before I let you go,
I got to get your thoughts on the one seed
in the college playoff as a Maryland man. I'm sure
you've recognized the futility over the years of AYU football.
Can you believe what you've witnessed under Kurt Signetti in
the last two and then once you have witnessed this
last weekend vide o'hiostead and being the number one overall
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seed of the.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
College football Playoff? What do you think about these Hoosiers?
Speaker 4 (53:18):
So, I think they're great. You know, they went into
Maryland and Mendoza in company just absolutely steamrolled our team.
And I think our team is going to be steamrolled
for the next five years. So I can just I'm
getting used to it, but I will say what Kurt
has done out there has been remarkable. The fact that
he was able to get Mendoza to come there and
then have Mendoza Fernando played the way that he has played.
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It's been terrific. You know, it wasn't pretty against the
Ohio State, but those games sometimes are the best games.
They're tight, they're defensive oriented, they're looking for somebody to
make a mistake or somebody to make a misplay, and
then all of a sudden you have your upset. What
will be interesting for Indiana will be Okay, let's be
ready for our first game. Once we get through the box,
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and then I think we all think that they're going
to be a team that's going to see Ohio State again.
And can they beat them twice within six weeks, that
would be the real cream on the top. So I
love Fernando Mendoza. I think he's a great player. I
think he's going to make a really good professional quarterback.
I think he's smart, he's big, he's strong, can make
every throw, he's athletic, and you know, the thing that
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I like about him most just this whole attitude about
life and the way that he carries himself, his personal
story with his mom dealing with multiple sclerosis, and how
their bond has basically given him strength. So I appreciate
all of that. So I'm rooting for Indiana, believe it.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah you think he was the heisman?
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see why. I mean, I know
there will be some other you know, there's guys, you
know from Vanderbilt. What Pavia, I guess is getting some
late push here, you know, because he played in the SEC.
But I don't know. I think I feel like for
Mendoza played almost a perfect year. You almost had like
a perfect season. I know, the numbers aren't what some
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past Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks have had. But I mean,
all he did was lead his team to an eleven
and o season. I know they got a good defense,
that's that's part of it. It's a team game. But
Fernando is the unquestioned leader of that team, and I
thought he had a really, really clean year and did
nothing but enhance his pro stock ability. So I think
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he's gonna win it.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You can find him at seven Boomersiasin on x He's
at the Fan of New York. You can catch him
on CBS Sports Network and in the latest edition of
Peyton's Places.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
You can check that out too.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
It's Boomer Asiasin on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Potline. Boomer, Man,
it is outstanding. We will catch up again soon, but
I had to get your thoughts on Philip Rivers coming
up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
That is going to be watched. It'll be interesting if
he gets out there and plays.
Speaker 4 (55:54):
If nothing else, if you've run by Philip, if you've
run by Philip at any point just on know that
Boomer's saying this. Prayers for him.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
You gott it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Boomer okay, boomers on the Anymore Automotive Proof hotline. We
shall pass that along to Philip Rivers from boomeras Issen
Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. Speaking of convenient. He's a
former NFL defensive player extraordinaire. He was here in Indy
for the Big Ten title game, so we can hit that,
and of course covers the Seahawks as well, one of
his former teams. He's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
His name is Chad Brownie joined us last week and
he's kind enough to do it again this week. Chad,
thank you for the time. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I am fantastic?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Tell you guys, well, I got to ask you right off,
Philip Rivers, how do you think this is going to go?
For the forty four year old quarterback coming back to
the NFL for the Colts and probably playing significant if
not starting on Sunday against a team you've seen a
lot of in the Seahawks this season.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, I love the story of it. Is there a
Disney Indian at the end of this? I don't think so. Yeah,
to come off of your couch and try to play
the NFL quarterback after being on the couch as long
as he's been? Yeah? Can you throw routes on air
during the workout? Sure? Can you manipulate the pocket. Can
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you translate the speed of the game and process. It
just seems like this is just bound to fail. I
understand the relationship between he and Shangs, I can I
understand the thought of, hey, you know Riley Leonard, We'll
see what he's got with the bank that needs and
so this is probably as good of a plan B
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as they could come up with at this point of
the season. But it's just really hard to imagine that
somehow this has a movie ending to it where Philip
Rivers and the cults get a chance to hoist some
trophy at the end of the quite unlikely.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So what you're suggesting as a former NFL player or
chat is this may be the greatest story ever told
that there's some positively positivity as an end result Sunday right, it.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Would have to be one greatest stories ever told. The
end that, well, yeah, I just don't see how that's possible.
You know. I laid my career my last year in
New England. It's very similar to Philip Rivers. I was
watching a New England games at home on my couch.
I had been released by the Patriots earlier that year,
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and linebacker got injured and I turned to my wife
and I said, I bet you. They called me five
minutes after this game is over, and the Patriots called me,
and I went back and played for the Patriots. But
the difference was I was on the Patriots during training camp.
I was on the team earlier that season. I was
thirty eight years old. I wasn't forty four years old.
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I played the year before with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I
was an actual NFL football player, not a retile player
who's actually spent more time being dad than he has
him prepared to play an NFL game.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it is especially the way I mean even more magnified,
the way that the offensive line for the Colt's protected
or lack thereof Daniel Jones most recently. And also you
can attest to this the way this Seattle Seahawks defense,
especially magnified in the last two weeks, has played. This
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just seems like a horrific combination.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
It's certainly not the ideal way you want to come
up to the couch and play a football game, even
if you're Riley Leonard. This is not necessarily a defense
you want to face. The kind of pressure that they
bring that you typically only bring four guys, but you
don't know which four it's going to be. They'll have
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six or seven or if sometimes even eight guys at
the line of scrimmage, they'll drop out four. But again,
what four is it going to be? So if here
Philip Rivers, or rather Leonard doesn't have a whole lot
of experience with Philip Rivers, you haven't done this in
a long time, to go against that defense with their
simulated pressure. Again, for the most part, you know it's
going to be for, but you can't figure out which
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four it's going to be. To deal with that as
your first game, that's got to be an incredibly upfill battle.
And so yeah, again it's a fun story. It's certainly
something great to talk about, but the chances of this
ended up well a very low percentage for me.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Now he is Chad Brown, the former nfler covers the Seahawks,
so also cover the Big Ten title game, of which
we'll get to with IU winning that over Ohio State
Saturday night in just a second. Both sides of the
football Seahawks playing right now. If you're going to compare
them to other teams, for example, not just in the NFC,
but throughout the NFL landscape. How well are the Seahawks
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playing presently?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
The Shelves are playing really really well when you have
won i think seven of their last eight, when you
shut out an NFL team, I know it was MaTx
Grosmer under center for the Vikings, but still it's hard
to shut out an NFL team like they did at
home against the Vikings. With a chance now to to
completely sweep the AFC South, they're playing really really good
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football offensively. You know, Sam Donald has a bit of
a turnover issue, but when that doesn't crop up, they're
as difficult as anybody in the league to do it
because they play good special teams. They play a great
brand of defense, They put pressure on your quarterback. They
haven't allowed one hundred yard rusher in like twenty three games.
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That's amazing. And then offensively, they've got a quarterback who
can gal of that. They've got a receiver who with
a mismatch for every defensive back I've seen all year long.
And they've got a run game. While it may not
be super consistent, they can wear you down and they
run the ball physically. So they got a lot of
things going well for them.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, they do, and then how about this big magnified
to Chad, with the secondary of the Colts being so compromised,
with our various ward on ir Sauce Gardner being out,
I mean that it makes things look even more severe
I think going to the Pacific Northwest on Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Right, So, not only are we talking about a Seahawks
team that's playing well, not only we talking about a
stadium that is very difficult for any opposing team to
play in. The twelves, as they call their fans out
there in Seattle, are usually good for a couple of
false starts on the opposing offense. And then yeah, now
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you have to talk about the injury situation with the Colts.
We've addressed the quarterback injury situation. Now you got to
talk about the get hit the back, and so who's
going to take Jack and Smith and Jibrook, Who's going
to take Jason on the various ways they line them up,
in the various ways they use them. That clear connection
he had with Sam Darmel, there's no obvious person in
that secretary who is going to be able to handle
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him insistently all game long. So yeah, it just looks
like It's going to be a tough weekend for the
Colts and for the Colts fans. This season started with
such promise with Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones and all
the great things that they were able to do, the
forest bucking up front of the defense, and things were
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all going in the right direction. And now here late
in the season, things are starting to all fall apart,
and it's just got to be a frustrating situation. We're
all involved, all.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Right, did Chad Brown joins us give us a little
insight on what the Colts might be able to cobble
together to get something done coming up on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I mean what you would what?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I guess the Seahawks could most fear in the Colts
hanging around and maybe cashing in surprisingly enough on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
What would that be?
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, I mean, you've got pieces in place. So if
Jonathan Taylor were to break the see OFWK Street and
get a hundred yard game, be able to have some
time of possession, be able to control the temple of
the game, and if you run the ball, well, guess what,
now you can go play action. You got to tie
in and Tyler Warren, who can catch the ball and
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be effective with some yards after catch. So if you're
thinking about either Riley Leonard or Philip Rivers, you want
to earn a ball off Jonathan Taylor and then you
want to tie. You want to tie in in the
middle of the field is going to make easy throws, easy.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Completions for you.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
So those two pieces together right there. If they're able
to get that combination going, that's a difficult day for
a lot of NFL defenses, even if good as the
Seahawks are playing. So there's that doctor and then we've
talked about it earlier. Sam Ronald can go on a
run of turnovers, he can have a four interception game,
he can have some poor ball security in the pocket
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and fumble it. I saw Minnesota Vikings blitz being very effective.
Despite the Seahawks having a lead in that game and
getting some defensive score. The offense never really got going
against the Vikings, so they were able to get pressure
on Sam Donald. They shot them more than a few times,
they got the ball out. So there's certain things that
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can be capitalized on by this Colt's team to get
a victory. Again, just like the Philip Rivers situation, not
being a high chance for success. These things I just
listed here, All these followed into place for the Colts. Likely,
probably not. I wouldn't give it a high chance for
success either.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
All right, Chad Browns with us before I'll let you go.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You were there to witness its are you they're winning
the Big Ten title game overall Ohio State. Let's start
with the defense, because obviously you come from that side
of the football. How impressed were you with? What are
you accomplished against Ohio State of that offense?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Saturday night?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So I had a chance to do IU in the
Illinois earlier this season, and I left that game thinking
this is the best team I've seen all year. And
then as the season went on, I went to Alabama
and called multiple Alabama games and Oklahoma games and all
of the tops of college football outside of Ohio State,
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and I said, this defense is legit. They're able to
deal with a top team in the country from a
physical standpoint, which I didn't think they were up to
task last year, but this year they were. And this
off Wolds and Fernandum and those it can score points
and the special teams issues that played them in the
playoffs last year, they seemingly have fixed a lot of
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those as well. So I gave them a great chance
to win this game against Ohio State, and then that
defense really held up its into the bargain. They outside
of a couple of splash plays to Jeremiah Smith, Ohio
State could not get anything going whatsoever. And so the
Indiana is an amazingly well coached football team that can
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win in all three phases weekend in weekend?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Does Mendoza win the Heisman Chad?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
I would have to think so. I would have to
think so. Obviously, there was a lot hinging on the
outcome of this gamp against Ohio State and which quarterback
found a way to play the best. So Mendoza I
think has probably filled it up. Considering where Indiana's rank,
what a big part he's been to it, some of
his earlier games where he's you know, nineteen of twenty
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and twenty of twenty three and amazing completion percentages like that,
it seems like the trophy should be hit.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
All right, what chance do you get on you as
far as the playoff is concerned, to move forward and
maybe try to win it all.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I think they've got enough weapons to really get this done.
When you got Cooper interrat on the outside. You know,
Charlie Becker doesn't have great numbers, but he seems to
step up in big games what most needed. He was
huge against Ohio State. Again. They played good defense, which
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if they're four to you know, win a close game,
a possession game, a time of possession game. I can
think they can do that and lean on their defense
and put the shootout. There's enough weaponsry on offense, and
then when it comes down to coaching, which coach is
going to make the key move at the right time.
I got a lot of trust in Kirk and Gay,
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so I give them probably the number one chance to
end the season as number one and win the CFP.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's incredible right there.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Chad Brown, the former nfler, works with the Seahawks, does
compass media networks too, as he was in town last
weekend and awesome to us our good friend from Arizona
on the Andymore Automotive Group file line. We shall keep
in touch and see what happens coming up on Sunday,
and hopefully Philip Rivers when he does play, because he
will stay somewhat upright.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Hopefully, Yes, that would nice come out of that.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm okay, I would love the story to keep going,
so hopefully that works out.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Chat.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Thank you very much, as always mad the past two weeks,
it's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And he's already done his final time. He's from the
Fan Morning so he along with Jeff Rickard and James
Boyd Kevin Bowen's on the Eddy Moore Automotive Group hootline.
How did it feel being a last time we're in
this building today, buddy.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Boy, I'm not gonna lie. I just kind of assumed
that we'd be back in there tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm sorry, let me get that out.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Go ahead, continue. I had to laugh. That's good.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Yeah, I will miss it. I am a big fan
of working downtown. I'm a big fan of how fortunate
we are. I think to call life on the Circle home,
and even though our view has changed.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Now this building stings, I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
To go over a circle. I'm gonna miss it. I'm
gonna miss the downtown parking. Honestly, I'm gonna miss the
book of to Bepo Aroma as i will.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Miss the party.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Hey, i will miss the centralized parking, There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
But you know the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I'm good to go. And I'm gonna tell you what
you're gonna absolutely love. I don't know if you've been
been in the building yet for a little tour, but
you're gonna love what that thing looks like and what
they're gonna do to it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Promise.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah. I went in there last week and it is
super nice. I mean, it's definitely nice and what we
got right now, So yeah, that asked is cool. And
I do think you know, it's spacious in the studio,
so you know, we got four of us in there
in the morning. Yeah, it seems like at times we're
all breathing on each other. So you get dyked in
(14:47):
alone in his own little room prussing buttons and doing
his thing. I pray for that that room. But uh, yeah,
meet Jeff and James will have some nice, spacious leg room,
if you will. So yeah, I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And keV I also they were kind enough. I don't
know if you noticed this. In the middle seat in
our new studio, they they installed a banana seat like
the Huffey that jeff Rickord normally rides, so he'll feel
he'll feel right at home there.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Now, finally, I'll tell you what I did.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Walk into the new studio up there and thought to myself, man,
Jeff could fit his speed bike is Endurance Bike, all
his bikes there with how much room is up there?
So yeah, seven am tomorrow, I guess I hope there's
I hope there's a lot of engineers in there ready
to help.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Us, speaking of Endurance Bike.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And this is not a shot because I'm very interested
in Sunday. But it is clear to me that maybe
Philip Rivers has not been on one here recently.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I think is.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Fair to say? Is it fair to say?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I think the dad bot is serving Uncle Phil quite
quite well. You know. A few weeks back, I decided
to consume a large amount of Donato's pizza one night
and thought to myself, ma'am, I might not move from
this couch for about three hours.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And yeah, not gonna lie.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
When I saw Uncle Phil today, that was the first
thought that went through my head. So I believe he's
a little north of his plane weight since he last
put on a uniform. But as Philip Rivers accurately said today,
and only the way he can say it, it ain't
like I ever ran away from anybody anyways.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, I just as much as I really want to
love this, and I know you do too, because we
want the interest, and believe me, you and I both
we would like to see some really fun stuff happen
with this group because clearly with that start, you feel
like they deserve more as they're circling the drain or
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now down the drain right now.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
But I can't get.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Past how badly this is going to end because we have,
I think, such evidence of the past asked about, you know,
these types of circumstances, how badly it normally does end.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean there's zero, zero precedent whatsoever of the
you know, of anything of this magnitude, and you know
it already was spiraling, you know, outside of the playoff picture,
and you know you had other injuries, not just Daniel
Jones related, but you know that game obviously wasn't trending
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towards the win when Jones even got hurt. So yeah,
it's just it feels a bit inevitable, uh maybe entertaining
over the final four weeks and watching Philip Rivers try
to attempt something unprecedented. I mean, there is an element
of like if you just lived in a vacuum, John, Really,
there are a lot of scenarios out there where the
Colts to make the playoffs with just two more wins.
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And you know, when you say that two out of
four wins two out of four games being a win,
that's not that ludicrous of a thought. But of course
you look at the schedule, you look at the quarterback situation,
that's where it becomes, you know, really really daunting. And
you know, I know Shane second, Philip Rivers, they you know,
still definitely expressed, you know, questions, and I think he
gets it. But I also think he's here too, just
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football obsessive individuals that really believe that they can chefs
match their way into We'll find advantages pre snap, we'll
get into the right play. And as soon as I
know it's a bad play, all dirt it all, you know,
go in.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The fetal position.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
But there's part of me it's like, man, that sounds good.
And have you seen Seattle's defense play They haven't allowed
a touchdown last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, it's just a really bad I think everything around
this seems to be to be bad, and especially I
think it's magnified considering the way the Colts have been playing,
and let's go all the way back to the Pittsburgh game.
It kind of seemed like that the Steelers gave everybody
a bit of a peak behind the curtain, and for
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the most part, since that point, this thing has not
been the same.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
No, no, again, it was strending. I think in this direction. Obviously,
you look at a run game. You know, you've lost
four or five literally every loss you haven't been able
to run it with Taylor, So that's been a correlation.
And then I think lately you're starting to see more
and more you know, red flags from a defensive standpoint,
and you know, the inability to win one on one
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pass rush opportunities, more big plays, you know, all of
that I think has added up for you. So again,
you've lost four or five, you know your eighth right
now in the playoff picture, that game on Monday night
was huge in terms of a blow to your playoff chances.
I mean, you need the Chargers to lose. Weirdly enough,
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the philp Rivers connection is fun in the different direction
with how that is right now. So yeah, I I
you know, there is part of me that I don't
necessarily look at this in the JEFT Saturday Light because
I think when you're down three quarterbacks, there the level
of desperation, like basic word debating. Would you rather see
Philip Rivers place Sunday or Brett Rippin? And if Brett
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Rippon's last name was Bowen, people would say, you know Rippin,
obviously people know that last name. But like, there's just
there's a little hope when you turn to your fourth quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Or Heineke or Ritter or you know, somebody like that
that would give us. And really I felt the same
way about sam Ellinger because sam Ellinger, I think would
get similar, if not worse results. So I would at
least would rather be entertained, if that's fair to say.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Yeah, I mean there is part of me that, like
the Riley Leonard thing is curious to me, you know,
if you look at it, and I don't know if
the cult is sent out their injury for yet or not,
but rather Leonard practiced today he said that he would
not have limitations. So part of me is like, well,
you know, in ninety nine out of one hundred instances,
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if you're starting back practices on a Wednesday, that dude
is playing in the game. So I have come around
to like the Leonard might not be as hurt I
think as we thought earlier in the week. I just
think shame sichen is caught up in the Philip Rivers aura.
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You know, maybe isn't the best statement to use, but
I think he sees the team right now.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's lost four or five.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
They need juice, and he feels like Philip Rivers will
give juice at least until the ball's kicked off on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I just don't know what juice you think you're going
to get unless he actually plays. And I don't know
why Philip Rivers would jack with it unless he has
assurances that he's going to play.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's the only stuff that makes sense to me.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think it'll be Philip Rivers starting.
I guess to clarify, but I also assume that Riley
Leonard wasn't practicing today. Like I was surprised to hear
that he was practicing. I figured there was a health
component that was playing into this a little bit more
with Leonard, But you know, again, based off what he
said today, he had no limitations. I don't know if
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he'll be listening as full or not. But yeah, it's
a bad aspect to it. I think this kind of
adds to they are all in on the Philip Rivers
is going to be the starting quarterback on Sunday, and
every sign that I have seen here over the last
few days points to that.
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to believe that people say all the time, well, this
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is just Ballard and Steichen trying to save their gig.
I honestly, and I said this before, I think that
mid season trade deadline deal kind of save their gig.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I did.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I mean, I thought, all right, if they were, if really,
if Carly orsa Gordon in ownership, if they were worried
about this moving forward, there was zero way you part
with two first rounders in the fashion in which they
did for Sauce Gardener.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Even if you're in the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Moment living in the euphoria of greatness, which that's exactly
how that was team playing, you know, getting off to
a seven and one start. So I don't think this
is a result of a general manager and a head
coach trying to bring somebody in, crossing their fingers and
hope they can remain at the helm, do you.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, I thought the trade sent the message that everybody
would be back. That's what I thought. Now, you know,
as you get away from the trade and as you
assess the situation and if this plays out in the
manner that it is, like if I told you at
the start of the year, John, the Colts will have
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a playoff collapse, or I guess an in season collapse
to miss the playoffs like the NFL hasn't seen for
over a decade, you would have thought, well, there's no
chance that everyone is back for twenty twenty six. And
right now that's where it's going. I mean, it is
going in the direction of the biggest in season collapse
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to miss the playoffs that we've seen in the NFL
for over a decade. So you know, there is that
aspect of like the further we get removed from the
trade and just the general. You know, you for if
you will, the seven to one start, will any of
that start to be the most recent feeling, because you know,
probably all human beings we react most out we're feeling
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in those recent, you know times. In the NFL. It
seems like eons agill that this team was seven and
one and going to play Pittsburgh. And again, you know,
you could say that really, I mean, they were out
of the playoffs when Daniel Jones got hurt. You know,
It's not like you can just say at the end
of the year if the team missed the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's not like you can say, well, they can say
he was compromised though.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Well sure, but you know again, part of that is
life in the NFL. I mean, will might be a
playoff team with you know, Davis Mills, you know, having
started and won three games. So I don't I don't
know if I completely uh will go for that excuse.
So it would be quite something. If no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Think they have to go for it at all, Buddy,
I think they'll use it. I just don't think we
have to go for it, and I'm sure of us won't.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Yeah, Yeah, it'll be quite something though if this plays
out and goes in the direction that is currently going
and you've missed the playoffs, and you know, for you
to survive the biggest collapse you know again an NFL
team has had in season and over ten years like
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that gets added to the resume. Like I think this
all was at the start of the year for you know,
ballad and psyching to be back, well, that means you
had to have had something pop positive to the resume,
i e. A division title, finally being over i e.
You know whatever, a playoff appearance, a playoff win, and
really the only thing positive is really good first two
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months of the season. You ended the week one curse
and about it.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I just think there are so many things you can
get into that makes the likability, I mean really the
success rate of what you'd even look at for the
next couple of years kind of looks like you and
I and like the old school Jay Arthur's Hot Bod
contest on a Thursday night, you know what I mean.
It's just yeah, you just kind of look at it
(26:37):
as and I hate to say it this way because
it's been a long time coming and there are so
many different turns this could have taken where Chris is
no longer here, or Shane is no longer here, or
we're not going through all these quarterback situations as what
we've gone through, so many different avenues that could have
been taking or things that could have happened. I just
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don't think this is going to be one of those
massive changes that we we ultimately see. I guess my
mind could change if this thing turns into an absolute disaster,
but hell, I think that's what we're standing in right now.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yeah. I mean I will sit here and say I
have no idea how carl Ercay Gordon is going to react,
just because I mean, I know Carly a little. I've
never There's.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
No evidence of it too. I mean you had evidence
of Jim, you don't have evidence here.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Yeah, there's just no past precedent with her. But again,
her signs in season would point to this discontinuing, and
you know, I don't. I'm a little torn on the well,
you know, if carlysis in her office at the end
of the year and she debates this of a you know,
(27:44):
part of the reason I'm going to run it back
is because I think it's a disservice to the new
regime to give them, you know, rebuilding papers without two
first round picks, Like I mean, is that smart? Is
that not smart? Does that all of a sudden indirectly
become Oh that's good news for you know, ballad and
psyching again, are they grouped together? Would they opt for
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the one like kind of weird rare occurrence where you
you know today buy to the GM, but let the
new GM evaluate the head coach outside of San Francisco
with John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, those tcenes, it never
really work. So probably not like you know, all these
questions that you know, we probably didn't need a debate
(28:27):
in recent months, they're not like back on and you know,
it really started to transpire once Daniel Jones went down
on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, by the way, and preparing for Sunday to sauce
Gardner no participation the calf, Brayden Smith, Nick and concussion.
As keV mentioned, Riley Leonard was back in full to
day deforce. Buckner limited that first practice in a month
as you reference to, and we'll see about his possible
(28:55):
return on Sunday, and Sharvarius Ward goes on ir got
to make you wonder whether or not we're ever going
to see or the NFL where ever see the.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Likes of him.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Again, considering his circumstances and a couple of things also
makes you wonder. You know, Chris Ballad has always been
set against really diving deeply into free agency, and clearly
with Ward that hasn't paid off this season. That trade
deadline deal, which he hasn't done a lot of, if
anything of significantly speaking, that has been a hamstringer for
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the future.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
So it's weird how and I wanted every bit of it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
I mean, I welcomed all that in but it has
really really dissembled any sort of progress you can possibly
see with this group moving forward.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Yeah, I mean, I do think cam Binen has been
an unquestioned hit and that is something that this team
needed to find stability at safety, and so major credit
to Chris Ballard for that. Obviously. The Ward situation, yeah,
I don't think you can really be too too critical
of it. I mean, if some really want to nitpick
and say, well, whatever, he's dealt with a lot and
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he was getting older in age, I don't know. I
think that's super highsight twenty twenty and a bit unfair.
But you know, as far as Ward is concerned, Yeah,
I mean I can't recall John and maybe Austin Colley
would fit into this boat, but I can't recall last
time the Colts have had a player inconcussion protocol three
times in three months. So yes, I think, unfortunately the
future question of him putting on an NFL uniform again
(30:27):
is there. And you know, unfortunately, I do think at
times those sorts of decisions for pro athletes, particularly NFL players,
where they're at in their careers matter in regards to
some of that. And if you look at Ward, he's
twenty nine years old and he's signed two big time
contracts in the NFL, you know, that might be different
if you're the twenty three year old undrafted free agent
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who whatever you know, didn't come for much and it
needs to turn this professional career into a lot. So again,
those are probably conversations for later in the year. But
stay just awful news on that. And you know, if
you want to speak to Sunday, you're facing the best
receiver in football without you know, Mooney Ward obviously, and
it looks like Sauce Gardner will miss the second week.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Kevin Bowen Andy more out of an out of group hoodline.
So Daniel Jones looking ahead, I said this earlier this week.
I felt that all three would be back, But clearly
he's not going to get the amount of money that
we once thought he was going to get. However, if
you're the Colts, do you even mess with it at all?
And I'm not even talking about how long it's going
to take him to get back, but he does have
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a scroll of injury history here that maybe in this case,
this may be it in terms of what the Colts
might be thinking with Daniel Jones, Where are you with this?
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Yeah? I think that's the one aspect to all of this.
That you go back to that trade for Sasce Gardner,
and when you made that move, you indirectly told all
of us we have ye unbelievell believe in Daniel Jones.
And at that point, and I get there were time
constraints on it because the trade deadline was coming up, obviously,
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but at that point, Daniel Jones had played two months
of good football, and if you look at his career,
he's really never made it to Thanksgiving of a season
either playing good football to the point where he didn't
get benched or was healthy enough now this year that
lasted what you know, a week after Thanksgiving, two weeks
after Thanksgiving, So that to me is the one element
(32:29):
of the trade that you know, even when it occurred,
it was like, oh boy, you're really going off of
a small Daniel Jones sample size to make that move.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
And I get it.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
You know, in two months, you know, when the off
season got here, maybe the Jets wouldn't have said that
trade was possible for you. So I understand that, you know,
not everything can happen on your watch, but Daniel Jones
is just the only thing consistent about his career to
this point has probably been injuries, and you know, unfortunately
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he had them at Duke as well, So I do
think you can't ignore that. I think it would certainly impact,
you know, contract negotiations, all of those things. So yeah,
I do think that's a real, real part of the
conversation early.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Should be Well, Unfortunately you and I were talking about
this yesterday. Stephen Daily is out of the college football
Playoff with that injury sustained. I guess after the game
on Saturday, the effect in closing.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Here that has on IU and what was a.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Terrific defensive effort and the terrific defense the entire year,
and your thoughts on the Hoosiers presently and moving forward
into the Rose Bowl coming up on New Year's Day.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Well, I mean, let's start their defense. I mean, I
said a Monday, I think, I know, Mendoz is probably
win the Heisman. I think I think their defense is
the most impressive aspect of their team, and in particular
it's probably that D line group, and Daily has been,
you know, really the the leader of the group. I
don't think that Camara has had as good of a
year as he had last year, so you know, and
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try to replace him. You know, maybe Khmara has been
a little banged up. Does the you know, three weeks
off help him? You know, they do have a lot
of bodies, and there are a lot of good players,
you know, whether it's Tucker or Wheeler, you know, even
some of the guys that they so then I lost
kelln Wyatt for the year, but there's a lot of
defensive line them that they do have, and I think
Pat Coons has done an outstanding job, you know with
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that group. But still, I mean, it is a definite loss.
And this is kind of part of now what I
think it's tested in the new era of college football
and what and what tests you as a program of
you know, can you withstand the sixteen whatever seventeen game
grind of it? Like when Notre Dame got the national
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title last year, I think they were down seven starters
and to all Americans like, I mean, that's a lot
to get all the way to the national title. But
that's part of it now, was having to play, you know,
three four extra games against really good teams where you're
not resting guys in the fourth quarter. Obviously, the daily
thing was just a horrific freak accident and honestly one
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of the worst injuries I've ever seen when you consider
how it happened there. So they've even's been great all year.
And again their d line room is probably the one
room that has a lot of depth to a standard.
But still I don't want to undermind how great.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
He's been keV.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Tomorrow morning, you guys are going to be on a
new building, the new studio.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Can out wait? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:20):
I mean, as long as everything's working good and I'm
gonna miss the downtown parking, I'm gonna miss just being
in a little bit of the hustle and the bustle
of it all. But I will say that at the
studio looks modern twenty twenty five, and I'm looking forward
to it.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I went in there earlier and logged on every computer
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Speaker 5 (35:44):
Well, I have a feeling, like I said earlier to you,
Mark Dyson solo in his own little studio is going
to be dangerous for the Internet browsers.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
So yeah, he bring his kids again and they can
un plug a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
That'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I forgot.
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Speaker 5 (36:27):
I Texas Spencer earlier thanked him. That's awesome, thank you,
I told you on air, and that's one of my
favorite gifts. I've got a beautiful little water jug that
I usually drink has pictures of my kids on and
they might have to take the back seat after Notre
Dame yety, So thank you to Spencer for that.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
That's awesome, buddy. I'm glad you like it very much,
and we'll see you in the new studios.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
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He's a former NFL quarterback at the fan in New
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Places is outstanding. As we're joined now by Boomer A
Size said, Hello, Boomer, how are you, Johnny?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Thanks for having me on. I'm doing well and certainly
had a lot of fun with Peyton shooting that this
past summer. And Peyton's quite the comedian and so easy
to work off of for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, I say he like is reinventing roles before that
Dick Budkus and Bubba Smith and those long before him,
I think kind of installed, but he's taking it to
a different level here.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Well.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
The thing I appreciated about Peyton is that he loves
ball when he loves the NFL, and he has the
ability financially, personality wise, and the understanding of how to
put something like Omaha Productions together. And he and his
brother Eli deserve a lot of credit for that because
they're making more money now than they ever did when
they played. And rightfully so, I mean, and just spending
(38:01):
a couple hours with Peyton, because that's all it took
for us to shoot that Yeah, shows me that he
understands exactly how things need to get done quickly, decisively.
They have a great script writer, they have great ideas,
and it always goes back to the history of the NFL,
and that's what I love so much about Peyton and
what he's doing with Peyton's Place, and.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
You could check that out.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
The latest edition of Peyton's Place is Boomer Asiasin joins us.
The last time you're on, we talked about the renaissance
campaign of Daniel Jones, which since we last spoke has ended.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
And now it's just kind of the.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Last eight or so years of the Colts in a
nutshell here, everything kind of goes hey wire and wild,
and you have Philip Rivers that I think is likely
going to start coming up on Sunday. So let's start
here what would all this entail for a quarterback having
to come back and then start a football game after
not playing for the past five years, no matter what
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level we're talking about here.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Boomer, Well, well, let's first start with Daniel Jones. When
we last talked about Daniel and he was playing well,
I told you one of the things that was the
problem here in New York is that he couldn't make
it through a season. He kept getting hurt, and every
time he got hurt, the team would fall apart. You know,
the team loved him, they respected him, they appreciated his leadership,
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the way he went about his business. But it was
a neck injury, it was a knee injury. I mean,
these were serious injuries. And it meant so much to
him this year that he went out there with a
broken fibula to try to play through it. Maybe he
puts pressure on his left achilles and next thing you know,
that snap. So making prayers out to him, for sure,
we are sick to our stomach for him. We were
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hoping for the best. We thought, you know, this could
be one hundred and fifty million dollar contract coming his way,
given the way that he had started the first Ay game.
So I mean, I feel sick for the young man.
He's a great young great young guy, and hopefully he'll
be able to restart his career in another year or so.
Now that being said. That being said, you know you're
Philip Rivers. You haven't played football in eighteen hundred days.
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Think about that. The last game that he played was
back on January ninth, twenty twenty one, and it was
versus the Bills. You guys remember that game. That was
a fourth and goal if I remember, and the the
I think the Colts won for it, and Philip overthrew.
I forget whoever threw in the back of the end zone,
and that was Frank Wright was his coach. Yeah, and
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you know, unfortunately for Chris Ballard the Colts organization, they
are fans out there. This is nothing new for them.
I mean, you guys have been through this for the
last eight or nine years, ever since Andrew Luck decided
to retire. That you know, you think you finally got
the guy, and then all of a sudden, the guy
gets hurt and now you have to turn back to
the you know, the clocks. And I don't know what
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kind of condition Phillips in I'm assuming that he took
very good care of himself, that he probably looked reasonable
on the practice field. But if he has to start
a game, I mean, I have to be realistic here.
His chances for any sort of success. I mean it's
less than fifty to fifty I think. And hopefully they'll
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lean on Jonathan Taylor, which I'm sure they will, and
do a lot of play action passing and not put
Philip back there in a shotgun and protecting him with
five guys. That would be insane to me. So Shane
Steiken's going to have to go into his bag of
tricks if in fact, Philip ends up being the starter
for them.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
I do think, and I don't know how you feel
about this. Do you think he comes back if he
doesn't believe that he's going to be installed immediately? Do
you think he even Jack's with this whatsoever? If there's
not that belief there. I mean, we don't know him,
we're not inside that brain. But what could he be
thinking surrounding this comeback, because there's a lot of ramifications
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from it.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, look, there's ego involved
in everything else, and he probably loves being wanted, you know,
I thought maybe they'd call Matt Ryan, but he weighs
about a buck twenty. Watching him on CBA now it's
like he couldn't play football because he'd probably get cut
in half. But and I know that the Colt actually
tried him that last year with Frank, So I don't know.
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This is just a weird kind of deal. It's it's
a desperation move. There is no other choice other than
maybe Brett Rippon. Maybe they start him if they feel
like Philip's not ready. I mean, they're playing against the Seahawks,
who are one of the best teams in the league,
and they're playing in Seattle. With the defense that gets
after the quarterback, they have a lot of sacks. I mean,
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if Philip does play in this game, whether he's starting
it or ends up finishing it. If he does finish it,
I don't know. You're asking You're asking an awful lot,
and I think he's really taking just an incredible risk
if he steps on that football field.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Did it shock you the moves and did you.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
Tell it didn't shock me? Because you know, there's there's desperation,
and there's desperation, and I think you know, given the
fact that the Colts have had a really good year
up until their last three games. I can understand why
Chris Ballard and the Colts would go down this road.
You know, they're going to try to save their season,
and this is it's nothing but a desperation move. I
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don't know how else you would describe it. And I'm
not saying they're doing the right thing or the wrong thing.
I'm just saying they're maybe doing the only thing that
they think gives them, you know, half of a chance
to win some of these games. And when you look
at their schedule, their strength of schedule here coming down
the end of the season is one of the toughest,
if not the toughest, in the league. And you look
at their last three games that they've lost. All you
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have to do is look at the giveaways, the sacks
in the past five games, and that tells you all
you need to know about this offense that seems to
have fallen apart for some reason and lost their way.
And I think a lot of that obviously has to
do with the injury of Daniel Jones, not just the achilles,
but the fibula injury that leads to him losing one
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of the most important aspects of his game, and that's
the ability to move and run with the football.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
That is Boomers, Sias and of the fan in New York,
CBS Sports Network and more. You're catching him with Andy
Moore Auto Motive Group Hotline. You're having a conversation I think,
on your show about what it would take to return,
like five years after I think you were out of
the NFL or whatever, you hadn't thrown a football and
what it entails. And I know that was kind of
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a funny conversation, but at the same time it was
ringing so true. There's one thing to talk about it
or to throw it to nobody or to throw to the
equipment guy when you're all out there alone on your field,
but it's another thing to go against the defense that
hasn't allowed to score in like the last two games
and really comes hard after the quarterback. It is absolutely
shocking to think for me that Rivers will be out
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there on Sunday. But then again, I have to understand
this is the Colts, and really there's nothing that would
shock me decision wise about their path any longer.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So I actually expected Boom.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Well, you know the other thing too, and I don't
know if they would be thinking this way, you know,
they may just say throw Brett Ripping out there. I
don't know, maybe get Philip in the game somewhere along
the line. I don't know. I can't put my own
brain in Shane Steiken's head and what he and Chris
Ballard are talking about. You know, Seattle's only given up
nine points, as you were pointing out, in the last
two games, and that's the fewest in the two games
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span since twenty and fourteen. That's how good their defense
has been playing. And I always say this, You know,
you can look at strength of schedule, but what does
that strength of schedule look like when that team arrives
to the stadium. So in the case of the Colts,
they have a very good record, so you say, okay,
well they got that would make them a tough out,
that would be a that would be a big problem.
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But the Colts come in now losing three in a
row and losing their starting quarterback and may have to
rely on a forty four year old quarterback. So where
does that really actually put that strength of schedule situation
in play here? It doesn't. I think this is when
you want to exactly catch the Colts, and this is
the Seahawks benefit from this so and by the and
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on the other side, everybody's healthy and Jackson Smith and
Jigbush showed back up again last week. Sam Darnold has
played great for this team. I wonder if I think,
in the back of my mind, you know, maybe we
kind of give up this game. You're not thinking give
up the game, especially if you're a player putting the
uniform on, but maybe internally they're saying, you know, we're
probably going to lose this game. Let's see if we
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can make a final push those last three games when
we're playing teams within our division. But man, I mean,
it's just this is such an impossible situation for the Colts.
And I understand desperate times require desperate measures. And I
would say I'm rooting for Philip. I want him to
do well, but to expect anything spectacular out of him
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is truly unrealistic.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Does this from the outside looking in for you appear
to be a general manager and a head coach that
may be trying to save what possibly.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
Could be the end for them as everything has fallen apart.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Is this part of the desperation move that you view
from both coach and general manager here and Andy No.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
I don't, I don't. I think it's a really unfortunate
set of circumstances. And you know, Chris Ballard, look, you
know he was part of firing my one of my
best friends in the whole world, Frank Reich. I hold
no ill will against that at all with him. I
know he's a really good general manager. I know that
he's built up a really good roster over the years.
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Frank always got the support that he needed from Chris
until you know, you know, mister Hearsay decided, you know,
enough's enough, and you know it's all. It always comes
back to the same thing. You know, who's the quarterback.
And when you look at the top twelve or fourteen
teams and you look at their healthy quarterbacks that are productive,
those are the ones that are always going to go
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to the playoffs. And unfortunately for the Colts, it's been
the same thing now ever since Andrew Luck retired. So
I don't think Shane Steiken or Chris Ballard would be
in jeopardy. I really don't think that. And I don't
know if you know the new owner out there standing
on the sideline, she'd gets it. I think she understands
what has happened here. I mean, she seems like a
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very you know, intuitive person, seems like somebody that's really
gotten into the game of football, and she sees the
desperation in the stress that are on the faces. I'm
sure of her GM and her head coach. So I mean,
it's a really unfortunate set of circumstances. I don't think
they change. I just think that they have to find
themselves who they believe can be their next quarterback. And
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obviously next year is not going to be Daniel Jones
because he's not going to be ready.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
So boomersiza with us. I thought a tail of the
tape happened at the NFL trade deadline, and I think
if you believe regardless of the circumstances here since Boom
and whatever, you think about Sauce Gardner, who is now
out with an injury. But I think when you say, okay,
you can trade these two first rounders of the future
(48:59):
and bring in the guy because you want to win
in the now, and we've seen things dynamically change really
a one eighty from that point in time and now.
But I think when you do that, that to me
you all most tell everybody that these are my guys
for the future. I mean, maybe things can change, but
I don't know how much they will. Considering what was
allowed by carle Ursa Gordon back during the NFL trade deadline,
(49:21):
that's kind of how I view it and short sided thinking.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
I guess in this case, well, I think they were
going for it, and I think they felt like they
needed one thing and that was going to be a
shutdown corner. Now from the other side, the Jets side,
which we cover obviously every day here, and the Jets are,
you know, a mega disaster once again, just like they
have been for the last ten years, and as their
season winds down, they fall apart, and we're kitting kind
(49:45):
of used to it. We actually thought that the general manager,
Darren Moujie, did a great job at the trade deadline,
trading both Sauce Gardner to the Calls and then of
course Quinn Williams to the Dallas Cowboys and acquiring the
assets they need to rebuild this franchise and to try
to get their own franchise quarterback. So we felt like
the Jets did the one hundred percent right thing, and
(50:05):
again it's just really unfortunate that a very talented player
ends up, you know, straining a calf. And I don't
know if your listeners feel this way out there, but
I've said this a thousand times here in New York.
When their calf is involved, the next thing that goes
is the achilles. And that's why you have to be really,
(50:26):
really really careful with an achilles or a calf injury.
And you know, you saw that with Tyres Halliburton. We
saw it, you know, last year with the Boston Celtics.
We've seen it, you know, so many times, Aaron Rodgers.
I mean, any sort of calf injury can easily lead
to a PopEd achilles. And that's the last thing that
you would want to have happen to Sauce Gardners. So
(50:47):
again three injuries too, by the way, to Forrest Buckner.
That's another huge injury. So those are things that I'm
sure missus Dersy or you say, gordon Is basically has
to take into account when it comes to, you know,
whether or not she's going to blow out the whole
front office and the coaching Steff. I just don't see
that happening. I don't think that would be a prudent move.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm going to double back to Daniel Jones. I happen
to think that Daniel Jones, who will resign here and
clearly not for the amount of money that he would
have resigned for here, But I think that he resigns here.
I think they like him enough, and I think next year,
I think they're going to wait. I think really all
three quarterbacks that have been in the fold, that includes
in this case Riley Leonard who's also dinged up in
(51:27):
Anthony Richardson. I think all three of these dudes are
going to be back coming up next year.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
That's at least what because.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
You look at the free agency on the lack of assets,
I don't know really what choice unless they do blow
it up the Colts are going to have with that
in mind.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
Yeah, Well, the only thing that I would say in
reverse to Daniel Jones, it's the same thing. It's you know,
what's it going to hurt next door two years from now?
Because I doubt he'll play next year. I mean, I
know that Deshaun Watson had the same injury around the
same time last year, and he is just getting onto
the onto the practice field now, and they're not going
to put him out on the field in these last
(52:04):
four games regardless. So I think that Daniel would be
in the same spot. Maybe he does sign a contract
with the Colts. Maybe he takes a year off and
doesn't sign and then resigns back with the Colts. I
don't know. I don't know what that situation's going to encounter,
because whatever they give him, they're going to have to
absorb on the salary cap and there's a whole other
set of circumstances that you got to take into account.
(52:24):
But you know, my thing with Daniel Jones would be,
I can't give you a long term, big money, guaranteed contract.
I just can't because your history is such that you
have serious injuries that forces you to lead, You lose
an inordinate amount of games, and usually the team collapses
(52:45):
around you when that happens. And that's been his moniker unfortunately,
in his entire career, except the one year that they
went to the playoffs and they beat the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
TA boomer assize him with us Before I let you go,
I got to get your thoughts on the one seed
in the college playoff as a Maryland man. I'm sure
you've recognized the futility over the years of AYU football.
Can you believe what you've witnessed under Kurt Signetti in
the last two and then once you have witnessed this
last weekend vide o'hiostead and being the number one overall
(53:14):
seed of the.
Speaker 3 (53:15):
College football Playoff? What do you think about these Hoosiers?
Speaker 4 (53:18):
So, I think they're great. You know, they went into
Maryland and Mendoza in company just absolutely steamrolled our team.
And I think our team is going to be steamrolled
for the next five years. So I can just I'm
getting used to it, but I will say what Kurt
has done out there has been remarkable. The fact that
he was able to get Mendoza to come there and
then have Mendoza Fernando played the way that he has played.
(53:39):
It's been terrific. You know, it wasn't pretty against the
Ohio State, but those games sometimes are the best games.
They're tight, they're defensive oriented, they're looking for somebody to
make a mistake or somebody to make a misplay, and
then all of a sudden you have your upset. What
will be interesting for Indiana will be Okay, let's be
ready for our first game. Once we get through the box,
(54:00):
and then I think we all think that they're going
to be a team that's going to see Ohio State again.
And can they beat them twice within six weeks, that
would be the real cream on the top. So I
love Fernando Mendoza. I think he's a great player. I
think he's going to make a really good professional quarterback.
I think he's smart, he's big, he's strong, can make
every throw, he's athletic, and you know, the thing that
(54:23):
I like about him most just this whole attitude about
life and the way that he carries himself, his personal
story with his mom dealing with multiple sclerosis, and how
their bond has basically given him strength. So I appreciate
all of that. So I'm rooting for Indiana, believe it.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah you think he was the heisman?
Speaker 4 (54:45):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see why. I mean, I know
there will be some other you know, there's guys, you
know from Vanderbilt. What Pavia, I guess is getting some
late push here, you know, because he played in the SEC.
But I don't know. I think I feel like for
Mendoza played almost a perfect year. You almost had like
a perfect season. I know, the numbers aren't what some
(55:06):
past Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks have had. But I mean,
all he did was lead his team to an eleven
and o season. I know they got a good defense,
that's that's part of it. It's a team game. But
Fernando is the unquestioned leader of that team, and I
thought he had a really, really clean year and did
nothing but enhance his pro stock ability. So I think
(55:27):
he's gonna win it.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You can find him at seven Boomersiasin on x He's
at the Fan of New York. You can catch him
on CBS Sports Network and in the latest edition of
Peyton's Places.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
You can check that out too.
Speaker 1 (55:40):
It's Boomer Asiasin on the Andy Moore Automotive Group Potline. Boomer, Man,
it is outstanding. We will catch up again soon, but
I had to get your thoughts on Philip Rivers coming
up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
That is going to be watched. It'll be interesting if
he gets out there and plays.
Speaker 4 (55:54):
If nothing else, if you've run by Philip, if you've
run by Philip at any point just on know that
Boomer's saying this. Prayers for him.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
You gott it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Boomer okay, boomers on the Anymore Automotive Proof hotline. We
shall pass that along to Philip Rivers from boomeras Issen
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