December 23, 2025 • 32 mins
00:00 - 19:01 - Mike Chappell and JMV talk about the Colts current situation, what they can do to right the ship, and if they expect Ballard and Steichen to come back.
19:02 - 32:56 - JMV and Greg Rakestraw talk the Colts loss, the performance of Philip Rivers, the defensive disappointment, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He is from CBS four and Fox fifty nine, not
as normal routine on a Thursday, but late in the
five o'clock hour now on a Tuesday afternoon, Mike Chapolo
joins us. Hello, Mike, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
There?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Don Mike? Happy holidays? See before we get into the badstuff.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, oh happy? Oh you did. I thought you were
going to elaborate on the happy holidays before we get
into the bad stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So I'm just happy holidays you too, buddy. I'm a
cheery guy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You too. Did you get enough sleep after staying up
as late as you did last night?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
No? See, I'm not as fast as I used to be,
and I was. I left the stadium about two forty five,
got home at three, probably got to sleep at four thirty.
Because you're always well, I always replace things in my mind,
shore I said this year, I said to that, so
not I get up about ten. So now it's no, no,
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not nearly enough.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, I mean not nearly enough. Defense among the really
awful defensive performance as we have seen in the past
more than a handful of years or even through decades,
where would that one ryank? Last night?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, we were thinking about that and I don't know
the second half of the Vikings game when you're up
thirty three and nothing, Drew Locke taking you out behind
a wood shed and beaten on you. The three seventy
five at Jacksonville is always is always brought up about
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what Jacksonville been running the football that day. It was
I tried to find something to pinpoint how bad it was,
and what I came up with was, that's the first
time the Colts haven't forced a punt in eighteen years,
two hundred ninety three games and sixty five hundred days
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and all that stuff. It's just ridiculous. I realize you're
facing a tremendous offense when it gets going with McCaffrey
and Kittles and all those guys, but make him his
name's Thomas more Staid. He's there punter had him do
more than hold for like fifteen placements. Yeah, they they
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just was there wasn't much resistance. And I know personnel
is an issue. I know it is. You're missing Sauce
Gardner and Mooney ward uh and awards done for the year,
and the fourth Buccaneer was coming back after whatever's been
five weeks off. But holy smokes slow them down, and
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they're just they're they're not getting much at anything from
their two first round picks u Quittye Pay and let
La to on a consistent basis at all. And then
the back end, you know, with the corners being out,
you're you're relying on Jonathan Edwards, who you didn't want
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to play early in the year, and Cam Mitchell, who
whenever I see his number, I keep having to look
at the card to see who it is. Okay Blackman
h Jalen Jones for some reason, they don't want to
play him. This is the guy started twenty seven games
the last two years, and then kennymore anymore. I'm not
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lumping him in there, but they're just it's we always
talk with the defense, well, you does a good pass
rush make help the back end? Or is the back
end help the defensive the front. Well, when you get neither,
you're just gonna get smoked. And that's what last night was.
And uh, it's they had guys running open and you know,
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so I don't know that's one that after what they
did in Seattle, it's really hard to fathom to come
out and do that at home your crowd Monday Night Football,
you know, show got we got guys, and then you
do that. Uh it left me one wondering what's going
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on on defense? And there were shortcomings all over the place,
a little, not a ton on offense, special team tournam
with the which the kickoff bambo But this was a
defense defensive collapse, and it was at every level and
in every form and fashion.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So Mike Chapels on the Andy Moner Automotive Group plotline, Mike,
this organization is in a really bad spot for the
foreseeable future. And it's almost like you get that September
and October that was so feel good that you go
back to And I remember you and I having this
conversation last January and I said, man, it is time
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to get rid of everybody. Let's get rid of everybody.
And had you done that, then you would be and
I would guess what, No, honestly, you would be, regardless
of knowing nothing right now, in a much better situation
than you are right now, moving forward in Hindiz.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes, yes, uh, they probably they probably wouldn't have been
seven to one, but and who knows what they would be,
you know, eight and seven whatever? Now I don't know
but you would be yes, in hindsight, if you can
go back there and and blow it up, then then
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you've got a clean slate. Now, who knows what they
would have done a quarterback. Who knows what they would
have done with the roster. I don't know. But the
spot they're in there is I don't know what. I
don't know what the best course is. I know what
the fan base wants. They want to nuke it that
they want to tear it down to the studs.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Can I tell you what I think they're gonna do.
I think there's a difference here. I know what I
believe they should do, but I think they're going to
remain the same for the most part here movie.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, And the fan base doesn't want to hear it.
But I'm telling you, if I had to argue one
or the other, uh, the the more the more optimistic
option of of the options is one more year. And
point I know that just fan base is just is
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just yelling at me right now because they've waited and
they've waited and they've waited. But with the moves that
have been made, and keep in mind, Carly was on
board with these moves. Members did the thing where she
told Chris Battle on the trade for sauce, basically, do
it in the long term, do it and it cost
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you two first round picks. So I could argue stronger
now and I wouldn't have said this last year that
the more the more realistic approaches that bring everybody back,
and it would be it would be with or else,
it would be one of those or else. Uh. But
but the way the rosters can instructed with the agency
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players and guys in contracts through next year, and and
and not knowing what you've got with Daniel Jones, Uh,
you know, I think I think the rationality boy, when
when he was healthy, we were seven and one, eight
and two, and we we were one of the best
teams in the a f C. And it's just that's
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not blowing smoke, that's that's fact it is. And then
once he got hurt with the first refractured leg, and
then and then the achilles, it's all gone to hell.
And it's and and then and then there's one thing
ent in the offensive line. They're down both tackles yesterday,
and then Bordolini gets a concussion on the second play.
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So I think that that when they sit in a
room and Carly. Carly is not going to make decisions
from the heart. She's not, She's she's gonna be analytical.
Look at this, what what's the best course? And if
you've blown up, you've got no first round draft picks
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for two years, what do you do with Jones? In
I mean, do you bring him back? And if you
say no, then okay, here we go again. Who's your
quarterback next year? So it's a very difficult situation. And
again the fan base doesn't want to hear that, hey,
one more year. But I don't know how you because
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if you've brought up completely and maybe she will, I
don't know, but you're looking at two or three years,
four years to get it right, and then it's going
to depend on getting a quarterback when you have no
draft capital to get a quarterback for two years. So
it's I don't think they went all in this year
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or bust with the moves they made, because these were
you know, three and four year contracts with with the
free agents and all this and with south Gardner. Now
Jones is a different is a different matter. So it
with all the moves they've made, the option that makes
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the most sense is you bring guys back. But again,
if you we've I repeat myself, if if you blow
it up, I don't know how you rebuild immediately, and
how you bring out a GM, how you bring out
a head coach and you'll find guys because there's only
thirty two of these jobs in the league, and you'll
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find guys. The boy if you bring a GM and say, well,
here's your roster, yes, some good players. Oh, by the way,
they're all free agents at the end of twenty six.
And by the way, you haven't got a quarterbacks a
viable started quarterback with Jones and the Achilles and the
head coach. You're doing the same song and dance and selling.
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So I don't know it's gonna be. I would I
would love to spend two days and I'm just sit
in Carly's office. I wouldn't say anything, and I just
want to listen to her how she rationalizes on what
to do, because I don't know what's the best to do.
But my gut tells me the best thing to do
is you're bringing these guys back and say okay, here
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you go, And it would almost be a playoff or
bus not that boy, we were right there and this
game didn't No, no, it's it's you were seven and one.
Finish it and then we'll talk about extensions. So I
you know, twenty twenty six is gonna the off season
is going to be fascinating, and I hope and I
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think we will know soon once the season ends what
she's going to do. And again, optics matter. There's a chance.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They're gonna lose out.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There's a chance they lose their last seven.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I cannot keep this group around. Certainly.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I had to chick three times. That's happened twice in
franchise history, and one was in twenty twenty two, which
was and the other one in nineteen fifty three, their
first year in the league. So it, yeah, every yard
what you make that I understand, And i'd say, then
good luck rebuilding this starting next year because you've got
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no capital, draft or money to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I would, I will say this, if you're going to
be blanked, you might as well be blanked under a
new regime.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, and that's I understand it. And I can't argue
the point other than i'd point out that, well, you've
got no draft picks and you've got players on inspiring contracts.
It's not again the moves they made this year. You know,
it's kind of crazy that Chris Ballard finally made the
moves that a lot of people have been saying, be
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more active, and you know, a trade at the trade deadline,
and you have got a quarterback that that Shane Styken
really really liked and was playing well and it all
blew up on you. The only one that didn't blow
up on you was Cam bind Them, who has been
darn good. So I don't know, they're at a crossroads
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and I don't know which way you go.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You know what's interesting about this, Mike Chapel joins us
on the Andy Morroll at a mount of fruit potline
is you can honestly say, and I would hope so,
given it's been nine years that they've exhausted all avenues
and Mike, nothing worked, Nothing works. So you know, just
saying well, we've got nowhere else to go, like you're
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Richard gear and an officer and a gentleman just doesn't
fly here. I mean you you have to try to well,
at some point, you got to try to take a
step forward from what clearly has not ever worked.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And is it gonna well it's it would be taking
a step forward by taking like two steps back, and.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You're taking two steps back anyway too.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So yeah, less unless next year Jones stays healthy and
yet all that stuff. Yeah, which that that's.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Where it's well, you can see he's gonna be back regardless.
I mean, do you think another coach could do with
him what Steichen did with him this year?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No? No, No, That's why I think if you, if you,
if you get rid of the coach in the GM Jones,
I don't know why, why why would Jones come back?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
No other options? I guess right, well, you.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Know there's always options if you're a quarterback that's proven,
and I think Jones proved this year that right situation.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I just think he's so compromised that I mean, where
else you gonna go? Hey, we sign here.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
They think he's gonna be ready in junior July and
and looked around the league. Somebody started a quarterback that
I've never heard was at Kansas City. I'd never heard
of him, and I like to think that I'm schooled
on the league, but uh, it's I don't know, it's
it's like I said, it's gonna be fascinating I don't
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see how they win Jacksonville. It's certainly not Houston. Uh
so it's and the objects of a seven game losing
streak are awful. Although again you can sit there and
you can't use injuries as an excuse, but it's a reason,
and you can argue whether there's a difference between those
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two words or not. But I'm telling you, in my heart,
I know that Jones doesn't get hurt. We're not having
this discussion. We're not and mate. And maybe if Anthony
Richardson doesn't, you know, have his freak accident, we're not
having this discussion because he would have been good enough
as a backup to win a couple of games. So
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it's just everything has gone wrong after the eight and
two and I don't I really I might know how
Jim Urse they might do it. I don't know, but
I have no clue With Carly and this this will
be her first really major major decision, and the building
on the line is the direction of her franchise.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And we can also argue if we would have seen
it be wiped back in January, we also wouldn't you know,
be having this argument right now too, So yeah, it
does work. Hey, somebody brought up a good question and
I wanted to ask you this advice wise or consultation,
Where would Carly go for that? Because obviously she's probably
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is leaning on some advice and advisement. Where does she
go the usual suspects.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, the usual suspects with Jimmy were probably napoleons and
the dungees and all that. I would assume that's still
some of who she leans on. That's a really good
point is because as smart as she is, I think
she's really smart, she realizes that maybe she's not the
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smartest person in her room. Because I don't want to
be around that person who's the smartest in the room,
because generally they're not. Uh. So you've got to have
people you lean on. And through her years of being
so involved, uh, there's no doubt in my mind that
she's got a handful of people that she trusts and
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she'll she'll listen to and and say what if and
this that and the other show she'll play it out.
I don't know who that might be, but there's no
doubt that she's got those people. And I don't I
don't want to dismiss Taylor and Casey either. But you know,
it's very clear that Carly's is running the football portion
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of this with a with a with an iron fist.
I guess that's that's kind of hyperbole, but but yeah,
that's a really interesting point because don't think that you
can do this on your own, because you can't, and
you know you're no one's that smart to do what
we've seen guys try it. It doesn't work. So that's
a really good point. And I don't know what's top
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boy who that might be, unless it's again people that
her dad trusted.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, I was just kind of curious the direction they go,
but as far as advice would be concerned, but.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, we got a couple more weeks and then in
an early off season to start this chatter once again.
Even with a sliver of.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Playoffs, it's like one percent they went out and Houston
loses out and you're you're the wild card because of
the fish tiebreaker. I think it is with with the
with the strength of victory or something like that, common
opponents or whatever, which we went through all that stuff
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in the nineties before Peyton got here. Where you know,
if if these thirteen thirteen things happened. We got a
chance to get in that's where you don't want to
be in, and there was Steven Holder retweeted something from
East Search where it showed, you know, a time lapse
of the cult of playoff odds from week ten to
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week twelve. It's you know, remember of ninety when you're
seven and one or eight and two, and now it's
it's a sliver. So it's just it's it's it's the
way it is. And maybe, like you said, it's it's, hey,
this has to work. What what makes it? You know,
it's the definition of insanity. Keep doing something expecting a
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different outcome.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But it's kind of like a radio signal, right now,
I think.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I know, So I don't know. Sometimes you feel like
you've got a good, good grasp on what they might do.
In this case, I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Hey, happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you guys, and we'll
see you coming up on Sunday and catch back up
next week. Maybe a little bit more clarity, but I
doubt it. My happy holidays, you guys do well.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Happy Holidays.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
On the Andy Moore Automotive Group pole line, I think
you just finished up the postgame show with Bill Brooks
last night about thirty five or so minutes ago. Greg
Rakestraw joins us, Now, time, what times you get done?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
What times you get done?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
We wrapped up at about two fifteen. We ended up
just slightly early last night. This morning in John I've
called two full basketball games since that time. So if
you want something different to talk about, I am currently
sitting at the top of the largest and finest high
school field house in the world.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Where might I be?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You're in Newcastle?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Very well said.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
So if I'm tired, it could be because of lack
of sleep, or I just down to half a grinder
in some garlic cheese read at Mansino's. So both those
things could be contributing factors.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Hey, Greg, go grab a chair and a broom and
get somebody out there and do some Steve Alford shooting
drills in honor of the former Newcastle Gray.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Would you how about the fact that I stayed at
the Steve Alford All American in last night. So I'm like,
all right, if I'm gonna be up until two o'clock, yeah,
I don't feel like driving home and then getting up
and I'm gonna drive for an extra hour. So what
I did is I signed off, checked in yesterday afternoon,
drove straight here and I think I got about five
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and a half hours of sleep last night at the
Steve Alford All American Inn. Look for the giant Nevada
wolf pat shoe on State Road three.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, I'm curious. I don't have a picture of you
right now. So if you spend the night at the
Steve Alford All American Hotel, do you have to feather
your hair and part it down the middle to walk
around in there?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Nature has parted my hair down the middle more and
more every day for the last seven or eight years. Nice.
I have more of the Sam Alford haircut these days,
kind of compared to Steve. But no, I should have
done you know the shooting girls where you shoot free
throws to rest. I did not do that today, and
for that I apologize. But there is a very nice
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kind of rob of plaques and memorabilia and stuff like that.
So I looked back behind the front desk operator and
the nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety five I see
ac head Coach of the Year plaques commemorating Steve's time
at Manchester College are on display. When you stop buying Visitoto.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
As well done. Greg Ragstraw is in Newcastle. He's the
postgame show host on the Andy More on a Motor
Group potline. I thought, I thought that Mike Shanahan absolutely
depants the Colts and the coaching staff last night.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What do you think that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, when you don't punt and when you get
and of all them, of all the stats from last night,
that jumps off the page at you. The Colts had
one quarterback hit that was a lot too sacked that
turned into a fumble on the pan of three yard
games is picked out of the air one of the
Niners side ends. Listen, the Niners got good pieces. The
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Niners got a really good coach. When that group is healthy,
and they weren't completely healthy because Ricky Piersoll didn't play
in that game for San Francisco, that is a good team.
And again, you know, both things can be true. The
Colts finishing kick of the season has been brutal in
terms of the level of team they have played. But
to go through an entire NFL football game and in
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your own building, you don't make the opposing team punt
and you hit their quarterback one time the entire game.
That's about as far from good as you can be.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, look at rock Party was in the Lazy Boy.
He got the Lazy Boy for Christmas last night, didn't
he because that's what he was in.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Now again, you know our view up top it can
be sometimes injured. Was he wearing one of those don't
hit me jerseys like you see in practices?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
He had to worry about it. Hell, you didn't have
to tell anybody not to hit him because they weren't gonna.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
He was very much Jake Jillen Hall, John Travolta boy
in a bubble last night back there in the parket.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Even through the injuries and all this and all that
and all the excuses, can we face the facts? And
this is where I sit with this organization, with this team,
with the personnel, with the coaching staff. Right now, you know,
with this group, I think that they now, especially over
Chris Ballard's tenure, every conceivable Greg Angel has been exhausted.
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So I don't know how you live with this in
a longer unless you believe you have to now because
at the trade deadline you did mortgage the short term
for sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Correct, And so here here's the way that I would
view it as this. Are there extenuating circumstances for this year?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
There are, But at the same time, when you look
at the overall numbers and you know, you know the
liteningum numbers I'm about to drop on you, you are not
going to win the AFC South for an eleventh consecutive season,
barring some thing of the I don't even say miraculous,
but it's not trending that the Colts are going to
win their last two games or the Texans are going
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to lose their last two games and get another game
or two to fall your way over the last two weeks.
That means your playoffs drout is going to extend to
five years, which means that your playoff wind rout is
going to extend to eight years. And those are not
numbers that screen continuity in terms of bringing somebody back.
So are there extenuating circumstances for this season? Yes, there
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absolutely are, But does that, you know, override the previous seven, eight,
nine years where there just hasn't been enough success. And
so the ultimate answer here, John, is the fact is
that we don't know we can offer what we think
we would do in this scenario, but we don't know
what Carly is gonna do. You know, this is the
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first time she has had to make the call, and
so we all kind of wait see how Saturday and
Sunday play out in terms of what exactly is the
the importance of the Colts game on Sunday afternoon, and
wait to see what happens from there. But the ultimate
wildcard is is that you have someone ne making the
ultimate decision and we just don't know enough about her
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management style yet to say is a move going to
be made?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I just think that you end up lame dunking
it even more than it is if you continue down
this path, because I'll even give it credit. I mean,
it's not like that they haven't tried everything, Greg, everything
Chris Ballad has tried to do. Nothing has worked. It
just has not worked. And I mean by work getting results,
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not by working because you're close against Seattle or working
because you had a nice two month stretch. But nothing
has worked.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And again, whether whether it's Chris or not, for next year,
you are somewhat, since say somewhat, you are forced to
kind of go for it next year because again, you
can't hit the reset button.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Now, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Sure you can fully hit the rec and turn about players.
I'm not sure you can really hit the reset button
even for twenty twenty seven. Do you know have a
first round picking that year? Either, you do have some
notable free agents this year whose contracts come off the
books in terms of the guys that would be of
that ILK you know to me and I talked about
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this in the postgame show last night. I think Daniel
Jones is the guy you want to bring back, and
you hope it's timeline hits for the beginning of training camp.
I think Alec Pierce is the guy you absolutely have
to invest me with this point, everybody else is kind
of negotiable. And then there's the second discussion you have,
are there contracts that you try to get out of
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with a year or two ago? And frankly, we didn't
have that conversation last night, and I'm not sure that's
the place for it. So again, it is Chris Ballard
back next year? I don't know. Is Shane Steiken back
next year? I don't know, because again I don't know.
I don't think I have enough of a read on
Carly yars Gordon yet to truly get engauge as to
how she feels about this situation and how she feels
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is the best way to carry forward.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So Greg Gray saw the postgame show host on the
Andy Moore Automdi Group potline. So thoughts on Rivers, I
think I already know your thoughts on the defensive effort
last night, But what about Philip Rivers in general?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Remarkable?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I mean, to have two hundred and seventy seven yards
passing at the age of forty four, when you have
basically had six practices, when you have been on the
team for two weeks and you hadn't played in five years.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Now again it was it was he zipping fast balls
in there. No or mistakes made, yes like on that
pick six, but the fact that he went from not
being able to throw the ball longer than ten to
fifteen yards to completing some deep passes in that game.
And we should have known they were take a deep
shot in the first play, given how the offense was
structured against the Seattle Seahawks. But he had and I
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mean this as the highest form of compliment, he had
an an above average game as NFL quarterback. I mean
the line that he had last night was very similar
to the line we saw Daniel Jones have when he
was having success the first eight nine weeks of the season.
Difference is he has at forty four. It hadn't played
in five years. So both things can be true. We
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can be disappointed in the overall outcome of the Colts
game and how the Cults performed, you can still marvel
and what Philip Rivers did. And that's the line that
we tried to walk last night in the postgame show.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Greg Graystraw, he's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
I know this is still two games remaining, but I
know you have to me I have to keep Ali
Pierce by all means necessary, and especially if you're going
to bring back Daniel Jones, which I think it's clear
they're going to regardless, because I mean, really, what other
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answers you have. I mean, this is where you are
quarterback right now. Is you have to hope that you
know his rehab is expedited and so he is good
to go at some point that is reasonable for you
next year. But I mean, Alex Pearce has to be
a part of this somehow, some way correct in the future.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And again I think that Alec was a guy that
the Colts probably almost thought, Hey, we can't keep him
because you've got other pieces You've got to think about
to now being a guy that is indispensable. He's about
to average twenty yards to catch for back to back seasons.
And think about this. He's done this with multiple quarterbacks
throwing in the football in each year. You know, the
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guys that he has been catching passes from have changed
over so many times, and he keeps getting the job done.
He is a couple of games away. I made this reference.
I think I made it on the air. If not,
then it's made it the Bill Brooks off the air
last night. The folks at Pro Football Reference. To be
amongst the all time leaders in a certain sat you
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have to have played sixty four games, and I think
last night was Alex's sixty second game as a member
of the Indian Appolis Colts. And once he hits that minimum, John,
He's in the top twenty five in terms of career
yards per catch average. His career yards per catch average
is over twenty He's about to lead the league in
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yards per catch for a second consecutive year.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
He led that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Margin by five yards last year. He leaves it by
two and a half this year. And Molley Cox. In
our postgame show last night, I was about talking about
Hey and he has asked to do so much more
of the route tree this year and he has showcased that.
So to me, again, of all of the varying free
agents you've got, there are two guys that you classified
differently than anybody else. Daniel Jones is one. Alec Pierce
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is the other.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So Greg Gregstraw, who's kind enough to join us on
the Andy Moore Automotive Group pileline. It was so disappointing.
I mean, it's one thing to have, you know too
as Rick Venturi would call him ambient players, as with
McCaffery and Kittle. But they did basically whatever they wanted
to do, yep, when they were out there running around,
and that is massively disappointing.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You know, we have the stat that is third down
conversions that we highlight in the postgame show, and I
said that last night the Niners were seven of eleven
and it felt like they were better they were one
of one than the one time they didn't convert. It
on third down.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But no, and.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Again, you know, doesn't mean it's easy.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
To stop, but you know who you have to.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Key out when you're playing that team. And McCaffrey, Kittle
and perty Ca almost pointing, go the balls going here,
And that's what happened. Frankly, it was how the Colts
offense ran the first eight weeks of the season. Is
what the Niners looked like last night.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, highly unfortunate, it is. So have you done all
the mathematics and the strength of schedule that surrounds any
possibility for the Colts to getting into the postseason? Were
you required to do that last night?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I knew going in because the Colts didn't have the
E on their name, And then I did a quick
check of our right, if the permutations play out, both
teams would be eight and four in the conference. And again, folks,
it's as simple as Houston has to lose out, Colts
have to win out, and obviously they play each other
the last game of the season, and then there is
some other help. And just scrolling through you know, Twitter,
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I think like the Raiders have to beat the Chiefs,
which sounds crazy, and sitting the Raiders at two and
thirteen with the Chiefs out of their third quarterback. They're
switching states apparently, so you know, stuff might happen in
that game, But basically it would come down to the
strength of victory tiebreaker. And again this is where having
wins I ag It's teams like the Broncos and Chargers
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do play a benefit for the Colts. But simply put,
if the Texans go to LA on Saturday and win
that game and this season is officially in the past,
tens for the Indian.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Appas it is over. Greg Graystraws are the Andy Moore
Automotive Group Podline in Newcastle. My brother, I appreciate you, you
and the fam have a fantastic Christmas and we'll catch
you on the other side.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Thanks buddy, do the same
He is from CBS four and Fox fifty nine, not
as normal routine on a Thursday, but late in the
five o'clock hour now on a Tuesday afternoon, Mike Chapolo
joins us. Hello, Mike, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
There?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Don Mike? Happy holidays? See before we get into the badstuff.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Yeah, oh happy? Oh you did. I thought you were
going to elaborate on the happy holidays before we get
into the bad stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
So I'm just happy holidays you too, buddy. I'm a
cheery guy.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
You too. Did you get enough sleep after staying up
as late as you did last night?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
No? See, I'm not as fast as I used to be,
and I was. I left the stadium about two forty five,
got home at three, probably got to sleep at four thirty.
Because you're always well, I always replace things in my mind,
shore I said this year, I said to that, so
not I get up about ten. So now it's no, no,
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not nearly enough.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, I mean not nearly enough. Defense among the really
awful defensive performance as we have seen in the past
more than a handful of years or even through decades,
where would that one ryank? Last night?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, we were thinking about that and I don't know
the second half of the Vikings game when you're up
thirty three and nothing, Drew Locke taking you out behind
a wood shed and beaten on you. The three seventy
five at Jacksonville is always is always brought up about
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what Jacksonville been running the football that day. It was
I tried to find something to pinpoint how bad it was,
and what I came up with was, that's the first
time the Colts haven't forced a punt in eighteen years,
two hundred ninety three games and sixty five hundred days
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and all that stuff. It's just ridiculous. I realize you're
facing a tremendous offense when it gets going with McCaffrey
and Kittles and all those guys, but make him his
name's Thomas more Staid. He's there punter had him do
more than hold for like fifteen placements. Yeah, they they
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just was there wasn't much resistance. And I know personnel
is an issue. I know it is. You're missing Sauce
Gardner and Mooney ward uh and awards done for the year,
and the fourth Buccaneer was coming back after whatever's been
five weeks off. But holy smokes slow them down, and
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they're just they're they're not getting much at anything from
their two first round picks u Quittye Pay and let
La to on a consistent basis at all. And then
the back end, you know, with the corners being out,
you're you're relying on Jonathan Edwards, who you didn't want
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to play early in the year, and Cam Mitchell, who
whenever I see his number, I keep having to look
at the card to see who it is. Okay Blackman
h Jalen Jones for some reason, they don't want to
play him. This is the guy started twenty seven games
the last two years, and then kennymore anymore. I'm not
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lumping him in there, but they're just it's we always
talk with the defense, well, you does a good pass
rush make help the back end? Or is the back
end help the defensive the front. Well, when you get neither,
you're just gonna get smoked. And that's what last night was.
And uh, it's they had guys running open and you know,
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so I don't know that's one that after what they
did in Seattle, it's really hard to fathom to come
out and do that at home your crowd Monday Night Football,
you know, show got we got guys, and then you
do that. Uh it left me one wondering what's going
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on on defense? And there were shortcomings all over the place,
a little, not a ton on offense, special team tournam
with the which the kickoff bambo But this was a
defense defensive collapse, and it was at every level and
in every form and fashion.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So Mike Chapels on the Andy Moner Automotive Group plotline, Mike,
this organization is in a really bad spot for the
foreseeable future. And it's almost like you get that September
and October that was so feel good that you go
back to And I remember you and I having this
conversation last January and I said, man, it is time
(04:43):
to get rid of everybody. Let's get rid of everybody.
And had you done that, then you would be and
I would guess what, No, honestly, you would be, regardless
of knowing nothing right now, in a much better situation
than you are right now, moving forward in Hindiz.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yes, yes, uh, they probably they probably wouldn't have been
seven to one, but and who knows what they would be,
you know, eight and seven whatever? Now I don't know
but you would be yes, in hindsight, if you can
go back there and and blow it up, then then
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you've got a clean slate. Now, who knows what they
would have done a quarterback. Who knows what they would
have done with the roster. I don't know. But the
spot they're in there is I don't know what. I
don't know what the best course is. I know what
the fan base wants. They want to nuke it that
they want to tear it down to the studs.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Can I tell you what I think they're gonna do.
I think there's a difference here. I know what I
believe they should do, but I think they're going to
remain the same for the most part here movie.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, And the fan base doesn't want to hear it.
But I'm telling you, if I had to argue one
or the other, uh, the the more the more optimistic
option of of the options is one more year. And
point I know that just fan base is just is
(06:17):
just yelling at me right now because they've waited and
they've waited and they've waited. But with the moves that
have been made, and keep in mind, Carly was on
board with these moves. Members did the thing where she
told Chris Battle on the trade for sauce, basically, do
it in the long term, do it and it cost
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you two first round picks. So I could argue stronger
now and I wouldn't have said this last year that
the more the more realistic approaches that bring everybody back,
and it would be it would be with or else,
it would be one of those or else. Uh. But
but the way the rosters can instructed with the agency
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players and guys in contracts through next year, and and
and not knowing what you've got with Daniel Jones, Uh,
you know, I think I think the rationality boy, when
when he was healthy, we were seven and one, eight
and two, and we we were one of the best
teams in the a f C. And it's just that's
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not blowing smoke, that's that's fact it is. And then
once he got hurt with the first refractured leg, and
then and then the achilles, it's all gone to hell.
And it's and and then and then there's one thing
ent in the offensive line. They're down both tackles yesterday,
and then Bordolini gets a concussion on the second play.
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So I think that that when they sit in a
room and Carly. Carly is not going to make decisions
from the heart. She's not, She's she's gonna be analytical.
Look at this, what what's the best course? And if
you've blown up, you've got no first round draft picks
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for two years, what do you do with Jones? In
I mean, do you bring him back? And if you
say no, then okay, here we go again. Who's your
quarterback next year? So it's a very difficult situation. And
again the fan base doesn't want to hear that, hey,
one more year. But I don't know how you because
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if you've brought up completely and maybe she will, I
don't know, but you're looking at two or three years,
four years to get it right, and then it's going
to depend on getting a quarterback when you have no
draft capital to get a quarterback for two years. So
it's I don't think they went all in this year
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or bust with the moves they made, because these were
you know, three and four year contracts with with the
free agents and all this and with south Gardner. Now
Jones is a different is a different matter. So it
with all the moves they've made, the option that makes
(09:08):
the most sense is you bring guys back. But again,
if you we've I repeat myself, if if you blow
it up, I don't know how you rebuild immediately, and
how you bring out a GM, how you bring out
a head coach and you'll find guys because there's only
thirty two of these jobs in the league, and you'll
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find guys. The boy if you bring a GM and say, well,
here's your roster, yes, some good players. Oh, by the way,
they're all free agents at the end of twenty six.
And by the way, you haven't got a quarterbacks a
viable started quarterback with Jones and the Achilles and the
head coach. You're doing the same song and dance and selling.
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So I don't know it's gonna be. I would I
would love to spend two days and I'm just sit
in Carly's office. I wouldn't say anything, and I just
want to listen to her how she rationalizes on what
to do, because I don't know what's the best to do.
But my gut tells me the best thing to do
is you're bringing these guys back and say okay, here
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you go, And it would almost be a playoff or
bus not that boy, we were right there and this
game didn't No, no, it's it's you were seven and one.
Finish it and then we'll talk about extensions. So I
you know, twenty twenty six is gonna the off season
is going to be fascinating, and I hope and I
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think we will know soon once the season ends what
she's going to do. And again, optics matter. There's a chance.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
They're gonna lose out.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There's a chance they lose their last seven.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And I cannot keep this group around. Certainly.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I had to chick three times. That's happened twice in
franchise history, and one was in twenty twenty two, which
was and the other one in nineteen fifty three, their
first year in the league. So it, yeah, every yard
what you make that I understand, And i'd say, then
good luck rebuilding this starting next year because you've got
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no capital, draft or money to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I would, I will say this, if you're going to
be blanked, you might as well be blanked under a
new regime.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, and that's I understand it. And I can't argue
the point other than i'd point out that, well, you've
got no draft picks and you've got players on inspiring contracts.
It's not again the moves they made this year. You know,
it's kind of crazy that Chris Ballard finally made the
moves that a lot of people have been saying, be
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more active, and you know, a trade at the trade deadline,
and you have got a quarterback that that Shane Styken
really really liked and was playing well and it all
blew up on you. The only one that didn't blow
up on you was Cam bind Them, who has been
darn good. So I don't know, they're at a crossroads
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and I don't know which way you go.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You know what's interesting about this, Mike Chapel joins us
on the Andy Morroll at a mount of fruit potline
is you can honestly say, and I would hope so,
given it's been nine years that they've exhausted all avenues
and Mike, nothing worked, Nothing works. So you know, just
saying well, we've got nowhere else to go, like you're
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Richard gear and an officer and a gentleman just doesn't
fly here. I mean you you have to try to well,
at some point, you got to try to take a
step forward from what clearly has not ever worked.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And is it gonna well it's it would be taking
a step forward by taking like two steps back, and.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You're taking two steps back anyway too.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
So yeah, less unless next year Jones stays healthy and
yet all that stuff. Yeah, which that that's.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Where it's well, you can see he's gonna be back regardless.
I mean, do you think another coach could do with
him what Steichen did with him this year?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No? No, No, That's why I think if you, if you,
if you get rid of the coach in the GM Jones,
I don't know why, why why would Jones come back?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
No other options? I guess right, well, you.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Know there's always options if you're a quarterback that's proven,
and I think Jones proved this year that right situation.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I just think he's so compromised that I mean, where
else you gonna go? Hey, we sign here.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
They think he's gonna be ready in junior July and
and looked around the league. Somebody started a quarterback that
I've never heard was at Kansas City. I'd never heard
of him, and I like to think that I'm schooled
on the league, but uh, it's I don't know, it's
it's like I said, it's gonna be fascinating I don't
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see how they win Jacksonville. It's certainly not Houston. Uh
so it's and the objects of a seven game losing
streak are awful. Although again you can sit there and
you can't use injuries as an excuse, but it's a reason,
and you can argue whether there's a difference between those
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two words or not. But I'm telling you, in my heart,
I know that Jones doesn't get hurt. We're not having
this discussion. We're not and mate. And maybe if Anthony
Richardson doesn't, you know, have his freak accident, we're not
having this discussion because he would have been good enough
as a backup to win a couple of games. So
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it's just everything has gone wrong after the eight and
two and I don't I really I might know how
Jim Urse they might do it. I don't know, but
I have no clue With Carly and this this will
be her first really major major decision, and the building
on the line is the direction of her franchise.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
And we can also argue if we would have seen
it be wiped back in January, we also wouldn't you know,
be having this argument right now too, So yeah, it
does work. Hey, somebody brought up a good question and
I wanted to ask you this advice wise or consultation,
Where would Carly go for that? Because obviously she's probably
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is leaning on some advice and advisement. Where does she
go the usual suspects.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Well, the usual suspects with Jimmy were probably napoleons and
the dungees and all that. I would assume that's still
some of who she leans on. That's a really good
point is because as smart as she is, I think
she's really smart, she realizes that maybe she's not the
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smartest person in her room. Because I don't want to
be around that person who's the smartest in the room,
because generally they're not. Uh. So you've got to have
people you lean on. And through her years of being
so involved, uh, there's no doubt in my mind that
she's got a handful of people that she trusts and
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she'll she'll listen to and and say what if and
this that and the other show she'll play it out.
I don't know who that might be, but there's no
doubt that she's got those people. And I don't I
don't want to dismiss Taylor and Casey either. But you know,
it's very clear that Carly's is running the football portion
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of this with a with a with an iron fist.
I guess that's that's kind of hyperbole, but but yeah,
that's a really interesting point because don't think that you
can do this on your own, because you can't, and
you know you're no one's that smart to do what
we've seen guys try it. It doesn't work. So that's
a really good point. And I don't know what's top
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boy who that might be, unless it's again people that
her dad trusted.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, I was just kind of curious the direction they go,
but as far as advice would be concerned, but.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, we got a couple more weeks and then in
an early off season to start this chatter once again.
Even with a sliver of.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Playoffs, it's like one percent they went out and Houston
loses out and you're you're the wild card because of
the fish tiebreaker. I think it is with with the
with the strength of victory or something like that, common
opponents or whatever, which we went through all that stuff
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in the nineties before Peyton got here. Where you know,
if if these thirteen thirteen things happened. We got a
chance to get in that's where you don't want to
be in, and there was Steven Holder retweeted something from
East Search where it showed, you know, a time lapse
of the cult of playoff odds from week ten to
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week twelve. It's you know, remember of ninety when you're
seven and one or eight and two, and now it's
it's a sliver. So it's just it's it's it's the
way it is. And maybe, like you said, it's it's, hey,
this has to work. What what makes it? You know,
it's the definition of insanity. Keep doing something expecting a
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different outcome.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But it's kind of like a radio signal, right now,
I think.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I know, So I don't know. Sometimes you feel like
you've got a good, good grasp on what they might do.
In this case, I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Hey, happy holidays, Merry Christmas to you guys, and we'll
see you coming up on Sunday and catch back up
next week. Maybe a little bit more clarity, but I
doubt it. My happy holidays, you guys do well.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Happy Holidays.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
On the Andy Moore Automotive Group pole line, I think
you just finished up the postgame show with Bill Brooks
last night about thirty five or so minutes ago. Greg
Rakestraw joins us, Now, time, what times you get done?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
What times you get done?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
We wrapped up at about two fifteen. We ended up
just slightly early last night. This morning in John I've
called two full basketball games since that time. So if
you want something different to talk about, I am currently
sitting at the top of the largest and finest high
school field house in the world.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Where might I be?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You're in Newcastle?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Very well said.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
So if I'm tired, it could be because of lack
of sleep, or I just down to half a grinder
in some garlic cheese read at Mansino's. So both those
things could be contributing factors.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Hey, Greg, go grab a chair and a broom and
get somebody out there and do some Steve Alford shooting
drills in honor of the former Newcastle Gray.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Would you how about the fact that I stayed at
the Steve Alford All American in last night. So I'm like,
all right, if I'm gonna be up until two o'clock, yeah,
I don't feel like driving home and then getting up
and I'm gonna drive for an extra hour. So what
I did is I signed off, checked in yesterday afternoon,
drove straight here and I think I got about five
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and a half hours of sleep last night at the
Steve Alford All American Inn. Look for the giant Nevada
wolf pat shoe on State Road three.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, I'm curious. I don't have a picture of you
right now. So if you spend the night at the
Steve Alford All American Hotel, do you have to feather
your hair and part it down the middle to walk
around in there?
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Nature has parted my hair down the middle more and
more every day for the last seven or eight years. Nice.
I have more of the Sam Alford haircut these days,
kind of compared to Steve. But no, I should have
done you know the shooting girls where you shoot free
throws to rest. I did not do that today, and
for that I apologize. But there is a very nice
(20:59):
kind of rob of plaques and memorabilia and stuff like that.
So I looked back behind the front desk operator and
the nineteen ninety four and nineteen ninety five I see
ac head Coach of the Year plaques commemorating Steve's time
at Manchester College are on display. When you stop buying Visitoto.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
As well done. Greg Ragstraw is in Newcastle. He's the
postgame show host on the Andy More on a Motor
Group potline. I thought, I thought that Mike Shanahan absolutely
depants the Colts and the coaching staff last night.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What do you think that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean, when you don't punt and when you get
and of all them, of all the stats from last night,
that jumps off the page at you. The Colts had
one quarterback hit that was a lot too sacked that
turned into a fumble on the pan of three yard
games is picked out of the air one of the
Niners side ends. Listen, the Niners got good pieces. The
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Niners got a really good coach. When that group is healthy,
and they weren't completely healthy because Ricky Piersoll didn't play
in that game for San Francisco, that is a good team.
And again, you know, both things can be true. The
Colts finishing kick of the season has been brutal in
terms of the level of team they have played. But
to go through an entire NFL football game and in
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your own building, you don't make the opposing team punt
and you hit their quarterback one time the entire game.
That's about as far from good as you can be.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yeah, look at rock Party was in the Lazy Boy.
He got the Lazy Boy for Christmas last night, didn't
he because that's what he was in.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Now again, you know our view up top it can
be sometimes injured. Was he wearing one of those don't
hit me jerseys like you see in practices?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
He had to worry about it. Hell, you didn't have
to tell anybody not to hit him because they weren't gonna.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
He was very much Jake Jillen Hall, John Travolta boy
in a bubble last night back there in the parket.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Even through the injuries and all this and all that
and all the excuses, can we face the facts? And
this is where I sit with this organization, with this team,
with the personnel, with the coaching staff. Right now, you know,
with this group, I think that they now, especially over
Chris Ballard's tenure, every conceivable Greg Angel has been exhausted.
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So I don't know how you live with this in
a longer unless you believe you have to now because
at the trade deadline you did mortgage the short term
for sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Correct, And so here here's the way that I would
view it as this. Are there extenuating circumstances for this year?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
There are, But at the same time, when you look
at the overall numbers and you know, you know the
liteningum numbers I'm about to drop on you, you are not
going to win the AFC South for an eleventh consecutive season,
barring some thing of the I don't even say miraculous,
but it's not trending that the Colts are going to
win their last two games or the Texans are going
(24:06):
to lose their last two games and get another game
or two to fall your way over the last two weeks.
That means your playoffs drout is going to extend to
five years, which means that your playoff wind rout is
going to extend to eight years. And those are not
numbers that screen continuity in terms of bringing somebody back.
So are there extenuating circumstances for this season? Yes, there
(24:29):
absolutely are, But does that, you know, override the previous seven, eight,
nine years where there just hasn't been enough success. And
so the ultimate answer here, John, is the fact is
that we don't know we can offer what we think
we would do in this scenario, but we don't know
what Carly is gonna do. You know, this is the
(24:50):
first time she has had to make the call, and
so we all kind of wait see how Saturday and
Sunday play out in terms of what exactly is the
the importance of the Colts game on Sunday afternoon, and
wait to see what happens from there. But the ultimate
wildcard is is that you have someone ne making the
ultimate decision and we just don't know enough about her
(25:12):
management style yet to say is a move going to
be made?
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I just think that you end up lame dunking
it even more than it is if you continue down
this path, because I'll even give it credit. I mean,
it's not like that they haven't tried everything, Greg, everything
Chris Ballad has tried to do. Nothing has worked. It
just has not worked. And I mean by work getting results,
(25:36):
not by working because you're close against Seattle or working
because you had a nice two month stretch. But nothing
has worked.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
And again, whether whether it's Chris or not, for next year,
you are somewhat, since say somewhat, you are forced to
kind of go for it next year because again, you
can't hit the reset button.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Now, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Sure you can fully hit the rec and turn about players.
I'm not sure you can really hit the reset button
even for twenty twenty seven. Do you know have a
first round picking that year? Either, you do have some
notable free agents this year whose contracts come off the
books in terms of the guys that would be of
that ILK you know to me and I talked about
(26:19):
this in the postgame show last night. I think Daniel
Jones is the guy you want to bring back, and
you hope it's timeline hits for the beginning of training camp.
I think Alec Pierce is the guy you absolutely have
to invest me with this point, everybody else is kind
of negotiable. And then there's the second discussion you have,
are there contracts that you try to get out of
(26:39):
with a year or two ago? And frankly, we didn't
have that conversation last night, and I'm not sure that's
the place for it. So again, it is Chris Ballard
back next year? I don't know. Is Shane Steiken back
next year? I don't know, because again I don't know.
I don't think I have enough of a read on
Carly yars Gordon yet to truly get engauge as to
how she feels about this situation and how she feels
(27:02):
is the best way to carry forward.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
So Greg Gray saw the postgame show host on the
Andy Moore Automdi Group potline. So thoughts on Rivers, I
think I already know your thoughts on the defensive effort
last night, But what about Philip Rivers in general?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Remarkable?
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I mean, to have two hundred and seventy seven yards
passing at the age of forty four, when you have
basically had six practices, when you have been on the
team for two weeks and you hadn't played in five years.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
It was great.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Now again it was it was he zipping fast balls
in there. No or mistakes made, yes like on that
pick six, but the fact that he went from not
being able to throw the ball longer than ten to
fifteen yards to completing some deep passes in that game.
And we should have known they were take a deep
shot in the first play, given how the offense was
structured against the Seattle Seahawks. But he had and I
(27:57):
mean this as the highest form of compliment, he had
an an above average game as NFL quarterback. I mean
the line that he had last night was very similar
to the line we saw Daniel Jones have when he
was having success the first eight nine weeks of the season.
Difference is he has at forty four. It hadn't played
in five years. So both things can be true. We
(28:19):
can be disappointed in the overall outcome of the Colts
game and how the Cults performed, you can still marvel
and what Philip Rivers did. And that's the line that
we tried to walk last night in the postgame show.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Greg Graystraw, he's on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
I know this is still two games remaining, but I
know you have to me I have to keep Ali
Pierce by all means necessary, and especially if you're going
to bring back Daniel Jones, which I think it's clear
they're going to regardless, because I mean, really, what other
(28:52):
answers you have. I mean, this is where you are
quarterback right now. Is you have to hope that you
know his rehab is expedited and so he is good
to go at some point that is reasonable for you
next year. But I mean, Alex Pearce has to be
a part of this somehow, some way correct in the future.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
And again I think that Alec was a guy that
the Colts probably almost thought, Hey, we can't keep him
because you've got other pieces You've got to think about
to now being a guy that is indispensable. He's about
to average twenty yards to catch for back to back seasons.
And think about this. He's done this with multiple quarterbacks
throwing in the football in each year. You know, the
(29:31):
guys that he has been catching passes from have changed
over so many times, and he keeps getting the job done.
He is a couple of games away. I made this reference.
I think I made it on the air. If not,
then it's made it the Bill Brooks off the air
last night. The folks at Pro Football Reference. To be
amongst the all time leaders in a certain sat you
(29:53):
have to have played sixty four games, and I think
last night was Alex's sixty second game as a member
of the Indian Appolis Colts. And once he hits that minimum, John,
He's in the top twenty five in terms of career
yards per catch average. His career yards per catch average
is over twenty He's about to lead the league in
(30:14):
yards per catch for a second consecutive year.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
He led that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Margin by five yards last year. He leaves it by
two and a half this year. And Molley Cox. In
our postgame show last night, I was about talking about
Hey and he has asked to do so much more
of the route tree this year and he has showcased that.
So to me, again, of all of the varying free
agents you've got, there are two guys that you classified
differently than anybody else. Daniel Jones is one. Alec Pierce
(30:39):
is the other.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So Greg Gregstraw, who's kind enough to join us on
the Andy Moore Automotive Group pileline. It was so disappointing.
I mean, it's one thing to have, you know too
as Rick Venturi would call him ambient players, as with
McCaffery and Kittle. But they did basically whatever they wanted
to do, yep, when they were out there running around,
and that is massively disappointing.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You know, we have the stat that is third down
conversions that we highlight in the postgame show, and I
said that last night the Niners were seven of eleven
and it felt like they were better they were one
of one than the one time they didn't convert. It
on third down.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
But no, and.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Again, you know, doesn't mean it's easy.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
To stop, but you know who you have to.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Key out when you're playing that team. And McCaffrey, Kittle
and perty Ca almost pointing, go the balls going here,
And that's what happened. Frankly, it was how the Colts
offense ran the first eight weeks of the season. Is
what the Niners looked like last night.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, highly unfortunate, it is. So have you done all
the mathematics and the strength of schedule that surrounds any
possibility for the Colts to getting into the postseason? Were
you required to do that last night?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I knew going in because the Colts didn't have the
E on their name, And then I did a quick
check of our right, if the permutations play out, both
teams would be eight and four in the conference. And again, folks,
it's as simple as Houston has to lose out, Colts
have to win out, and obviously they play each other
the last game of the season, and then there is
some other help. And just scrolling through you know, Twitter,
(32:11):
I think like the Raiders have to beat the Chiefs,
which sounds crazy, and sitting the Raiders at two and
thirteen with the Chiefs out of their third quarterback. They're
switching states apparently, so you know, stuff might happen in
that game, But basically it would come down to the
strength of victory tiebreaker. And again this is where having
wins I ag It's teams like the Broncos and Chargers
(32:32):
do play a benefit for the Colts. But simply put,
if the Texans go to LA on Saturday and win
that game and this season is officially in the past,
tens for the Indian.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Appas it is over. Greg Graystraws are the Andy Moore
Automotive Group Podline in Newcastle. My brother, I appreciate you, you
and the fam have a fantastic Christmas and we'll catch
you on the other side.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Thanks buddy, do the same
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