December 4, 2025 • 20 mins
00:00 - 9:04 - Former NFL linebacker and current Compass Media color analyst Chad Brown joins the show! Chad will be on the call of IU vs Ohio State, and he and JMV preview the matchup! They also discuss if the Heisman winner will be decided in this game.
9:05 - 20:39 - Mike Chappell from FOX59 and CBS4 joins! Why did the Colts cut Michael Badgley loose, and what can be expected from Blake Grupe? Will the Colts find a way to right the ship after a recent slump? What happens if they don’t, and this year ends in disaster?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Andy Moore Automotive Group pot Line.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's on the call coming up on Saturday with Good
Reason Compass Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
You know him formally in Pittsburgh and Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Defensively, he was outstanding in his years in the NFL.
Chad Brown joins US now in the Andy Moore Automotive
Group Potline.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Good afternoon, Chad. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am Fanahata looking forward to a fun weekend of football?
How are you, my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Are you staked out in Seattle right now?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I am actually at my place in Arizona looking at
Camelback Mountain as I talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I used to throw a dart at like the
map of the United States and said, I wonder if
he's here. So that's kind of what I did right
for about that. But no, it sounds like you're in
a much better place. Well, you're going to be in
a great place coming into town this weekend. Your first
thought about this matchup? And how much ONNUS do you
put on what went down over a year ago with
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these two teams? Ad in Columbus, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
This Indiana program is at a different place than what
they were last year. I think obviously. Actually we saw
them as a Cinderella story and arrive of kerksing Udi
and Indiana, and we thought that the reckoning would come.
That it was a great story, but they didn't have
enough backbone behind, enough solonness behind them. And now this year,
(01:24):
I it's a completely different story. In some ways, I
would equate that to maybe my Colorado Buffalo's back in
nineteen eighty nine, we played Notre Dame in the Orange
Role and while we were undefeated, we hadn't been through
the rigors. We were not tested that season, and so
Notre Dame had obviously been in big games like that before,
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they were far more big game ready. The next year,
in nineteen ninety, we played them in the Orange Bowl again,
same two teams in the same matchup, and we find
a way to get the win because we were more
battle casted, we were ready for that type of environment.
And I think Indiana's taken the lessons from last year
and they've been a tremendous team because all season long,
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but I think Indiana was looking for a bit of revenge.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it's at Chad Brown and I mentioned he played
at Colorado. I think that's a good connection and a
relatable you make right here too. Now, obviously the world
of college athletics, the landscape was much different back when
you were in Boulder with the body as infiltrators. And
that's how I've described this IU football program. It's like
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the grandfathered in college football programs with the long story
and history don't really like it when the new kid
on the block, so to speak, kind of steps in
and sticks their nose into things. And you guys did
that back in the late eighties, and that's kind of
what I you, in a different situation, is doing and
has done in the past two years.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I think there's lots of similarities to the Colorado and
IU story. And part of that is a this head coach,
a guy who comes in and returns of program not
just to being pretty good, but actually it took greatness
until so Colorado was Jill McCartney the force of personality
he needed to pull all that off. And now we
(03:14):
see Kurzgetti doing a similar thinking and different ages and
eras in college football. But at the same time, the
coach who has a plan, the coach who understands football
but also understands how to bring people together, how to
get people on the same page, how to create buy in.
That's what coach McCartney did at Colorado. That's what Court
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is doing at IU, and the results are showing up
on the field. The amazing quick turnaround and he's been
able to produce up there and tremendous play both sides
of the ball. I saw in my duties for Compass
Media this year. I called games at Alabama and Oklahoma,
and saw at LSU and saw some of the best
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teams in the country, teams that are going to be
in the playoff. I didn't see Ohio State, but I
saw Indiana and in person, and they were the best
team in all three phases I saw all year long.
So I know Ohio State is a really very good,
talented football team, well coached, but Indiana is certainly after
level and deserves to be in this game. And I
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was thinking, man, this is going to be a very
very close game because of the similarities between these two teams.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Either the former NFL or former Colorado Buffalo Chad Brown
is going to be in the building. Coming up on
Saturday night, Big Ten Title Game. Compass Radio Network breaking
down the matchup with AYO and Ohio State right now
and Andy Moore Automotive Group podline, So is this going
to decide the Heisman Trophy Mendoza and saying who comes
out of this game looking the best?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think so. Mendoza has been awesome all year. He
had a game where he was ninety plus percent completions
at the game I had. I think he was twenty
one of twenty four or something like that. So he's
been tremendous all year long, and he's been in the
Heisman Trophy conversation all year long, Julian saying how to
kind of wrap his way up into it. But he's
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also an almost eighty percent passer on the season. Clearly,
both guys have great coordinators that got talent around them,
but singularly as quarterbacks, they are accurate, they are smart,
they are excellent processes within the pocket. I think the
experience that Mendoza has given a sick maybe better cool
(05:35):
and calmness within the pocket. But at the same time,
I would, you know, I would be quite happy if
my college football team, but I was a fan of,
had either one of these guys under center.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Chad Brown.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Hey, before I let you go to when you look
at the experience that I you and his team and
obviously not all together, but the college football experience in
general compared to what you see with Ohio State. Does
that give you any weight to think that there's an
advantage there at all?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
When you talk about the experience you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, you've got a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You've got to know, you've got a lot of EYU
football players that have played Chad a lot and I
mean a lot of college football over the years. How
much does that play a role in like a winner
take all Big ten situation like Saturday Night.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I think it does, and I think it plays a
big role the more things that you have seen, not
just a big game environment, but also just the more
situations you have seen, because in the end, football things
to come down to in the close game, as I
expect this to be three to five plays, I turn
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the direction of the football game, and those three to
five players are probably going to be situational plays. Does
everyone on the field understand the situation on the field
and what is the right play to make in this situation?
So when you've had as many players with as much
deep experience as I you have, they've seen those situations before.
They've heard the coaches talk about, Okay, this is a
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high red zone. This is where offenses want to take
a shot.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Dvs be ready for you.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
This is the last opportunity before they move into the
near red zone where they can take a shot at us.
So understand that that situation. Understand what typically happens when
you have a turnover in the sudden change. A lot
of the offensive quarters and accordings want to dial up
a trick play or go with the deep play action pass.
When you've seen that enough times, you're not going to
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be fooled. You're going to be prepared for the moment.
And so the team that better understands those three to
five plays that I'm talking about would probably be the
team that comes ahead in this ballgame. And because IU
have so much experience, I think that tends to favor
them in that particular part of the matchup.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Speaking of experience, you have experience with the Cetle Seahawks.
I don't know if you mind or not, but if
my producer James gets ahold of you next week, can
we carve out a spot maybe to talk Colts and
Seahawks with you?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Would you mind?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I would love to see to have that conversation. I
was just calling the Seahawks Minnesota game last week.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well much of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It was a contest between two teams, but it wasn't
a game on the scoreboard. I'm glad to be happy
to talk about my former team, the Hawks, and the
massive against the Colts, who are obviously towards the tops
in their conference and with an opportunity to make a
deep playoff run this year.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Chat. I'll tell you what. James is my producer.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm going to have him talk with you when he
puts you on hold, and we'll set you up for
next week and eat your little preview going off for
that game too. But hey, safe, travels from Arizona to
Indy and maybe we'll see you downtown. But have a
great time this weekend because downtown Indy is going to
be explosively awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And I have a great game call too.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I appreciate you good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Have a good one, and they any more automative group
hootline from CBS four and Fox fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It is Mike Chapel. Hello, Mike, how you doing so?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Blake Groupy has an uncle that owns the Bulldog in
broad uble Did you know this?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I did. I didn't know that, breaking news, No, I.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Did breaking news.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Hey did they get to a point this week where
you know, after that miss pat the third of the season,
that something had to be done?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah? They did. And you know, we can argue. I
know KB Kevin Bowen has been on this and uh,
he's been pounding that they need to change, and I understand,
I understand. Uh. And what I mentioned to those special
teams got Brian Mason is is what you had to
wagh is you wanted better than a guy that's missed
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three pats, which the most in the league. This year's
Harrison Bucker and somebody else. Eddie Periniro maybe he's this
four but but he but but badally was ten for
eleven on field goals and the one missiles the fifty
three yard or so. So you're you're you're really old,
(10:16):
You're you're concerned with the reliability on pats. But are
one point but you're getting three points. So it's a difficult,
you know, balanced to kind of deal with. But it
was clear they had lost they had lost trust. I'm
not sure how much they trusted badually anyway, I think
it was lukewarm. It wasn't what they It wasn't though
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trust they had in Spencer Strader at all. Uh So,
they yeah, they they decided that they had to make
a move. But the problem is when when when you
start making kicking moves in December, you're just you're just hoping,
You're just hoping. I mean guys that are out there
are guys that have been cut by their teams. Uh
(10:58):
So and and Rupee, he's I don't think he's missed
pH this year. He's missed eight field goals. You're like
eighteen for twenty four or you know, he was at
eighteen twenty six on field goals, so you know, if
he hits all was the eighteens and he misses a
couple of big field goals, what have you done? It's
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not ideal at all. I just hope this doesn't come
back to bout him in the butt in a game
that they have to win and they need a thirty
seven yard field goal and a guy just missed a
couple of thirty seven yard field goals. Doesn't come through
for you, Mike, Is this a game on Sunday where
we see a resurrection or a continued fade.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I can view it both ways.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It kind of seems like there's more of now a
lean for this team fading out of the picture.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You know, I always go back to when my senior
year at ball State, I took debate and the teacher
would get the prof would give you an issue. You've
got to argue this whether you whether you knew about
it or believes or whatever. If I had to stand
up in front of the class and argue why the
Colts will come out of this whatever it is, a
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mini slump or whatever, I don't know what I would say.
I don't know where my confidence would be that they're
going to come out of this. They're not. The thing is,
they're not playing awful. They're not just playing god off
of football. They're doing just enough to lose, which which
is the same thing. I guess if you're not. I mean,
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it's just the extremes you're talking about. So I don't know. Uh,
of all the places that I would go to to
try to break out of a slump, it's either Jacksonville
or Pittsburgh. And we saw what Pittsburgh did. Yeah, So
I don't know. I hope that I hope they come
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out of this. They've done too much up to this point,
up to the the eight and eight seven one. They
did too much good this year to have it just
go away. So I'm hoping they find a way that
it's got to be the offense. The offense has got
to get itself back together to some degree. You know,
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the last four contrast is incredible on the lack of
efficiency on third down and they're averaging about I don't know,
twelve points fewer then the seven to one starts. So
it's got to be on offense. It's got to be
with Jonathan Taylor and you're going against probably the best
run defense in the league, and you've got to get
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more from Daniel Jones, who's gonna play with the fracture
of tibula. Yeah, probably the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine and
the Andy Moore on a Moni group pile line the garage.
We're in Columbus downtown, large cit bourbon locks. Loners don't
have to keep the shots. I took issue with, obviously
the offensive line play for their injured quarterback and the
play calling for their injured quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I've had an.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Issue with it because it kind of seems like that
Shane Steichen will call plays for the Daniel Jones we
saw in September, not the crack stick and the fibula
that he's dealing with right now in December.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
What say you, Mike, Well, the offensive line and I
correct myself to protect the pass protection has got to
be better. Uh in that start to the offensive line
where the edges had to be better and the interior
canner Borderlini's had some bad plays the last couple of
weeks which he hadn't really had early. And your your
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face and the team that's got good edge pass rushers. Again,
most teams do. So Yeah, it's on play calling. I
don't know. I like against Houston the first series they
go three and out, Well, just downs dropped, the dropped
the third down pass. It's not a bad play call,
it's it's bad execution. So I sort ofitate to be
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too critical of Stiking because you got to call plays
and it's up to the players to execute, which means
picking up a blitz means keep keeping Will Anderson from
bull rushing up the middle. Uh, maybe you need to
get quicker and getting rid of the ball. Which means
getting more more. You know, Tyler Warren and Josh Stwns.
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Josh Downs has not been as effective this year recently
than they he has been the first few years. So
whenever things aren't going well, it's well do something different.
Well what they don't need to do something different, they
need to do something better because for the first eight
to ten games they were doing more more than well enough.
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They were playing pretty dark on well. And now it's
just like there's it's I think we've talked it's like
a whack a mole. You're trying to you smack the
the the groundhog or whatever it is, and then another
one pops up, and then another one pops up, and
another one pops up. So yeah, this is we've talked
about must wins and all that, and you're you're you're
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high on that. This is damn close to a must win.
I think I have a great concern I have great
concerns of them making the playoffs if they lose on Sunday.
I just do.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I just I think at eight and five, within the
division and the way that they are right now, that
you're looking at a a dead man walking type of team.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
If they lose on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
The problem. The problem is, and again the analytics, you
do these playoff simulators, and I don't want to say
the Paul. What they need to do is win three
of their last five games, and it really doesn't matter
too much which three they are. If you win your
three division games, you win the division. I really think
if they win any three of their last five games,
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they get in on a wild card at eleven and six.
I really think that happens. But you lose this one
and then you go to Seattle and then your home
Monday night against Frisco, and then you've got Jackson my home,
which is you probably win, and then do you really
want to go to Houston with a win or in scenario?
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So that's why you know this past Sunday was so
huge because you probably could have put the Texans away.
That might have been their last really hope. But now
there's so much on this and against the team that
I think they've had eight different starting quarterbacks lose. The
Colts during this strategy, this ten game stretch, which includes London.
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It's for whatever reason, whatever reason, they don't play well
down there. They don't do enough, they don't make play
that needs to change Sunday or or you know, things
could really really spiral out of control. And I really
hope that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Happen before I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I don't really want to do this, but I'll ask
them what was I have you here anyway?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Because people have brought this up and talking about it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
If they do fade and what happens in the aftermath
and it's a rebuild of this and get a new quarterback?
I mean really, player wise, they're kind of stuck where
they are with this group. You can make I think
changes in front office coaching if you want to, But
player wise, I mean, I don't know, not this rebuild.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think you're kind of stuck with what you have
for the time being, are you not?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Well you go to the scorch car Then you'd have
to target, you'd have to identify your core players. And
I'm not sure who a new regime would consider your
core players. I really don't. And I think most of
these contracts, most of them you can get out of.
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Sauce Gardner probably not, Mooney war buying them probably not
right away. Everybody else, I mean, Pittman's got another year
that I don't think is guaranteed. Jonathan Taylor, I I'm
not sure who you would consider untouchable if a new
group came in here, And because if you're making those changes,
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it's not gonna be they're not gonna tweak You're not
going to tweak the roster. And so I that's why,
you know, selfishly because I don't want to see this
happen and I don't want to have to report on
it and chase it. I think changes would be massive,
top to bottom. I don't know how you just can't
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replace fifty three players. You know that's ridiculous. But you know,
starting at the top of Daniel Jones, if he's part
of the reason you couldn't get finish it, Yeah, he's
got the fracture, Taby, I understand it. It's just so
many different variabules that will go into where this team goes.
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It's a whole program for you talking and you, me
and Rick Van Turk can get together and rap about it.
But it won't be pleasant and it won't be easy
if that's what they end up doing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, that won't be good. Won't be good at all.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
My chapel of CBS four Fox with you Done, Catch
his work obviously there and then yeah coming up and
well I think we all agree now with a must
win situation in Jacksonville on Sunday without question for the Colts, Mike,
I appreciate you as always, man, Thank you
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Be well fuckay next week
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He's on the call coming up on Saturday with Good
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You know him formally in Pittsburgh and Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Defensively, he was outstanding in his years in the NFL.
Chad Brown joins US now in the Andy Moore Automotive
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Good afternoon, Chad. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am Fanahata looking forward to a fun weekend of football?
How are you, my friend?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Are you staked out in Seattle right now?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I am actually at my place in Arizona looking at
Camelback Mountain as I talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, I used to throw a dart at like the
map of the United States and said, I wonder if
he's here. So that's kind of what I did right
for about that. But no, it sounds like you're in
a much better place. Well, you're going to be in
a great place coming into town this weekend. Your first
thought about this matchup? And how much ONNUS do you
put on what went down over a year ago with
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these two teams? Ad in Columbus, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
This Indiana program is at a different place than what
they were last year. I think obviously. Actually we saw
them as a Cinderella story and arrive of kerksing Udi
and Indiana, and we thought that the reckoning would come.
That it was a great story, but they didn't have
enough backbone behind, enough solonness behind them. And now this year,
(01:24):
I it's a completely different story. In some ways, I
would equate that to maybe my Colorado Buffalo's back in
nineteen eighty nine, we played Notre Dame in the Orange
Role and while we were undefeated, we hadn't been through
the rigors. We were not tested that season, and so
Notre Dame had obviously been in big games like that before,
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they were far more big game ready. The next year,
in nineteen ninety, we played them in the Orange Bowl again,
same two teams in the same matchup, and we find
a way to get the win because we were more
battle casted, we were ready for that type of environment.
And I think Indiana's taken the lessons from last year
and they've been a tremendous team because all season long,
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but I think Indiana was looking for a bit of revenge.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it's at Chad Brown and I mentioned he played
at Colorado. I think that's a good connection and a
relatable you make right here too. Now, obviously the world
of college athletics, the landscape was much different back when
you were in Boulder with the body as infiltrators. And
that's how I've described this IU football program. It's like
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the grandfathered in college football programs with the long story
and history don't really like it when the new kid
on the block, so to speak, kind of steps in
and sticks their nose into things. And you guys did
that back in the late eighties, and that's kind of
what I you, in a different situation, is doing and
has done in the past two years.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I think there's lots of similarities to the Colorado and
IU story. And part of that is a this head coach,
a guy who comes in and returns of program not
just to being pretty good, but actually it took greatness
until so Colorado was Jill McCartney the force of personality
he needed to pull all that off. And now we
(03:14):
see Kurzgetti doing a similar thinking and different ages and
eras in college football. But at the same time, the
coach who has a plan, the coach who understands football
but also understands how to bring people together, how to
get people on the same page, how to create buy in.
That's what coach McCartney did at Colorado. That's what Court
(03:35):
is doing at IU, and the results are showing up
on the field. The amazing quick turnaround and he's been
able to produce up there and tremendous play both sides
of the ball. I saw in my duties for Compass
Media this year. I called games at Alabama and Oklahoma,
and saw at LSU and saw some of the best
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teams in the country, teams that are going to be
in the playoff. I didn't see Ohio State, but I
saw Indiana and in person, and they were the best
team in all three phases I saw all year long.
So I know Ohio State is a really very good,
talented football team, well coached, but Indiana is certainly after
level and deserves to be in this game. And I
(04:19):
was thinking, man, this is going to be a very
very close game because of the similarities between these two teams.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Either the former NFL or former Colorado Buffalo Chad Brown
is going to be in the building. Coming up on
Saturday night, Big Ten Title Game. Compass Radio Network breaking
down the matchup with AYO and Ohio State right now
and Andy Moore Automotive Group podline, So is this going
to decide the Heisman Trophy Mendoza and saying who comes
out of this game looking the best?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think so. Mendoza has been awesome all year. He
had a game where he was ninety plus percent completions
at the game I had. I think he was twenty
one of twenty four or something like that. So he's
been tremendous all year long, and he's been in the
Heisman Trophy conversation all year long, Julian saying how to
kind of wrap his way up into it. But he's
(05:10):
also an almost eighty percent passer on the season. Clearly,
both guys have great coordinators that got talent around them,
but singularly as quarterbacks, they are accurate, they are smart,
they are excellent processes within the pocket. I think the
experience that Mendoza has given a sick maybe better cool
(05:35):
and calmness within the pocket. But at the same time,
I would, you know, I would be quite happy if
my college football team, but I was a fan of,
had either one of these guys under center.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Chad Brown.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Hey, before I let you go to when you look
at the experience that I you and his team and
obviously not all together, but the college football experience in
general compared to what you see with Ohio State. Does
that give you any weight to think that there's an
advantage there at all?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
When you talk about the experience you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, you've got a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
You've got to know, you've got a lot of EYU
football players that have played Chad a lot and I
mean a lot of college football over the years. How
much does that play a role in like a winner
take all Big ten situation like Saturday Night.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I think it does, and I think it plays a
big role the more things that you have seen, not
just a big game environment, but also just the more
situations you have seen, because in the end, football things
to come down to in the close game, as I
expect this to be three to five plays, I turn
(06:51):
the direction of the football game, and those three to
five players are probably going to be situational plays. Does
everyone on the field understand the situation on the field
and what is the right play to make in this situation?
So when you've had as many players with as much
deep experience as I you have, they've seen those situations before.
They've heard the coaches talk about, Okay, this is a
(07:12):
high red zone. This is where offenses want to take
a shot.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Dvs be ready for you.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
This is the last opportunity before they move into the
near red zone where they can take a shot at us.
So understand that that situation. Understand what typically happens when
you have a turnover in the sudden change. A lot
of the offensive quarters and accordings want to dial up
a trick play or go with the deep play action pass.
When you've seen that enough times, you're not going to
(07:38):
be fooled. You're going to be prepared for the moment.
And so the team that better understands those three to
five plays that I'm talking about would probably be the
team that comes ahead in this ballgame. And because IU
have so much experience, I think that tends to favor
them in that particular part of the matchup.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Speaking of experience, you have experience with the Cetle Seahawks.
I don't know if you mind or not, but if
my producer James gets ahold of you next week, can
we carve out a spot maybe to talk Colts and
Seahawks with you?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Would you mind?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I would love to see to have that conversation. I
was just calling the Seahawks Minnesota game last week.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well much of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
It was a contest between two teams, but it wasn't
a game on the scoreboard. I'm glad to be happy
to talk about my former team, the Hawks, and the
massive against the Colts, who are obviously towards the tops
in their conference and with an opportunity to make a
deep playoff run this year.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Chat. I'll tell you what. James is my producer.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm going to have him talk with you when he
puts you on hold, and we'll set you up for
next week and eat your little preview going off for
that game too. But hey, safe, travels from Arizona to
Indy and maybe we'll see you downtown. But have a
great time this weekend because downtown Indy is going to
be explosively awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And I have a great game call too.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
I appreciate you good talking to you.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Have a good one, and they any more automative group
hootline from CBS four and Fox fifty nine.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It is Mike Chapel. Hello, Mike, how you doing so?
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Blake Groupy has an uncle that owns the Bulldog in
broad uble Did you know this?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I did. I didn't know that, breaking news, No, I.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Did breaking news.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Hey did they get to a point this week where
you know, after that miss pat the third of the season,
that something had to be done?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah? They did. And you know, we can argue. I
know KB Kevin Bowen has been on this and uh,
he's been pounding that they need to change, and I understand,
I understand. Uh. And what I mentioned to those special
teams got Brian Mason is is what you had to
wagh is you wanted better than a guy that's missed
(09:56):
three pats, which the most in the league. This year's
Harrison Bucker and somebody else. Eddie Periniro maybe he's this
four but but he but but badally was ten for
eleven on field goals and the one missiles the fifty
three yard or so. So you're you're you're really old,
(10:16):
You're you're concerned with the reliability on pats. But are
one point but you're getting three points. So it's a difficult,
you know, balanced to kind of deal with. But it
was clear they had lost they had lost trust. I'm
not sure how much they trusted badually anyway, I think
it was lukewarm. It wasn't what they It wasn't though
(10:36):
trust they had in Spencer Strader at all. Uh So,
they yeah, they they decided that they had to make
a move. But the problem is when when when you
start making kicking moves in December, you're just you're just hoping,
You're just hoping. I mean guys that are out there
are guys that have been cut by their teams. Uh
(10:58):
So and and Rupee, he's I don't think he's missed
pH this year. He's missed eight field goals. You're like
eighteen for twenty four or you know, he was at
eighteen twenty six on field goals, so you know, if
he hits all was the eighteens and he misses a
couple of big field goals, what have you done? It's
(11:19):
not ideal at all. I just hope this doesn't come
back to bout him in the butt in a game
that they have to win and they need a thirty
seven yard field goal and a guy just missed a
couple of thirty seven yard field goals. Doesn't come through
for you, Mike, Is this a game on Sunday where
we see a resurrection or a continued fade.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I can view it both ways.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
It kind of seems like there's more of now a
lean for this team fading out of the picture.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You know, I always go back to when my senior
year at ball State, I took debate and the teacher
would get the prof would give you an issue. You've
got to argue this whether you whether you knew about
it or believes or whatever. If I had to stand
up in front of the class and argue why the
Colts will come out of this whatever it is, a
(12:11):
mini slump or whatever, I don't know what I would say.
I don't know where my confidence would be that they're
going to come out of this. They're not. The thing is,
they're not playing awful. They're not just playing god off
of football. They're doing just enough to lose, which which
is the same thing. I guess if you're not. I mean,
(12:32):
it's just the extremes you're talking about. So I don't know. Uh,
of all the places that I would go to to
try to break out of a slump, it's either Jacksonville
or Pittsburgh. And we saw what Pittsburgh did. Yeah, So
I don't know. I hope that I hope they come
(12:53):
out of this. They've done too much up to this point,
up to the the eight and eight seven one. They
did too much good this year to have it just
go away. So I'm hoping they find a way that
it's got to be the offense. The offense has got
to get itself back together to some degree. You know,
(13:15):
the last four contrast is incredible on the lack of
efficiency on third down and they're averaging about I don't know,
twelve points fewer then the seven to one starts. So
it's got to be on offense. It's got to be
with Jonathan Taylor and you're going against probably the best
run defense in the league, and you've got to get
(13:36):
more from Daniel Jones, who's gonna play with the fracture
of tibula. Yeah, probably the rest of the season.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine and
the Andy Moore on a Moni group pile line the garage.
We're in Columbus downtown, large cit bourbon locks. Loners don't
have to keep the shots. I took issue with, obviously
the offensive line play for their injured quarterback and the
play calling for their injured quarterback.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I've had an.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Issue with it because it kind of seems like that
Shane Steichen will call plays for the Daniel Jones we
saw in September, not the crack stick and the fibula
that he's dealing with right now in December.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
What say you, Mike, Well, the offensive line and I
correct myself to protect the pass protection has got to
be better. Uh in that start to the offensive line
where the edges had to be better and the interior
canner Borderlini's had some bad plays the last couple of
weeks which he hadn't really had early. And your your
(14:34):
face and the team that's got good edge pass rushers. Again,
most teams do. So Yeah, it's on play calling. I
don't know. I like against Houston the first series they
go three and out, Well, just downs dropped, the dropped
the third down pass. It's not a bad play call,
it's it's bad execution. So I sort ofitate to be
(15:01):
too critical of Stiking because you got to call plays
and it's up to the players to execute, which means
picking up a blitz means keep keeping Will Anderson from
bull rushing up the middle. Uh, maybe you need to
get quicker and getting rid of the ball. Which means
getting more more. You know, Tyler Warren and Josh Stwns.
(15:23):
Josh Downs has not been as effective this year recently
than they he has been the first few years. So
whenever things aren't going well, it's well do something different.
Well what they don't need to do something different, they
need to do something better because for the first eight
to ten games they were doing more more than well enough.
(15:44):
They were playing pretty dark on well. And now it's
just like there's it's I think we've talked it's like
a whack a mole. You're trying to you smack the
the the groundhog or whatever it is, and then another
one pops up, and then another one pops up, and
another one pops up. So yeah, this is we've talked
about must wins and all that, and you're you're you're
(16:05):
high on that. This is damn close to a must win.
I think I have a great concern I have great
concerns of them making the playoffs if they lose on Sunday.
I just do.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I just I think at eight and five, within the
division and the way that they are right now, that
you're looking at a a dead man walking type of team.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
If they lose on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
The problem. The problem is, and again the analytics, you
do these playoff simulators, and I don't want to say
the Paul. What they need to do is win three
of their last five games, and it really doesn't matter
too much which three they are. If you win your
three division games, you win the division. I really think
if they win any three of their last five games,
(16:52):
they get in on a wild card at eleven and six.
I really think that happens. But you lose this one
and then you go to Seattle and then your home
Monday night against Frisco, and then you've got Jackson my home,
which is you probably win, and then do you really
want to go to Houston with a win or in scenario?
(17:15):
So that's why you know this past Sunday was so
huge because you probably could have put the Texans away.
That might have been their last really hope. But now
there's so much on this and against the team that
I think they've had eight different starting quarterbacks lose. The
Colts during this strategy, this ten game stretch, which includes London.
(17:43):
It's for whatever reason, whatever reason, they don't play well
down there. They don't do enough, they don't make play
that needs to change Sunday or or you know, things
could really really spiral out of control. And I really
hope that doesn't.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Happen before I'll let you go.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I don't really want to do this, but I'll ask
them what was I have you here anyway?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Because people have brought this up and talking about it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
If they do fade and what happens in the aftermath
and it's a rebuild of this and get a new quarterback?
I mean really, player wise, they're kind of stuck where
they are with this group. You can make I think
changes in front office coaching if you want to, But
player wise, I mean, I don't know, not this rebuild.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think you're kind of stuck with what you have
for the time being, are you not?
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Well you go to the scorch car Then you'd have
to target, you'd have to identify your core players. And
I'm not sure who a new regime would consider your
core players. I really don't. And I think most of
these contracts, most of them you can get out of.
(18:57):
Sauce Gardner probably not, Mooney war buying them probably not
right away. Everybody else, I mean, Pittman's got another year
that I don't think is guaranteed. Jonathan Taylor, I I'm
not sure who you would consider untouchable if a new
group came in here, And because if you're making those changes,
(19:21):
it's not gonna be they're not gonna tweak You're not
going to tweak the roster. And so I that's why,
you know, selfishly because I don't want to see this
happen and I don't want to have to report on
it and chase it. I think changes would be massive,
top to bottom. I don't know how you just can't
(19:43):
replace fifty three players. You know that's ridiculous. But you know,
starting at the top of Daniel Jones, if he's part
of the reason you couldn't get finish it, Yeah, he's
got the fracture, Taby, I understand it. It's just so
many different variabules that will go into where this team goes.
(20:04):
It's a whole program for you talking and you, me
and Rick Van Turk can get together and rap about it.
But it won't be pleasant and it won't be easy
if that's what they end up doing.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Yeah, that won't be good. Won't be good at all.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
My chapel of CBS four Fox with you Done, Catch
his work obviously there and then yeah coming up and
well I think we all agree now with a must
win situation in Jacksonville on Sunday without question for the Colts, Mike,
I appreciate you as always, man, Thank you
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Be well fuckay next week
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