December 9, 2025 • 44 mins
00:00 - 22:49 - Former Colts tight end Charles Arbuckle, now with the Colts Radio Network, joins the show! What does Charles expect to see from Rivers when he does start. How did rookie Riley Leonard do in his first NFL action? What did Charles think of the Indiana Hoosiers playoff chances?
22:50 - 38:14 - Former IU linebacker Matt Surface joins the show to discuss IU winning the Big Ten Championship, and having the top seed in the College Football Playoffs! Matt and JMV discuss IU QB Fernando Mendoza, and how important he is to the program, as well as coaching job by Curt Cignetti.
38:15 - 44:15 - Greg Rakestraw from the ISC Sports Network and the Colts Fifth Quarter Huddle joins to discuss Philip Rivers, and what it means for the franchise. They also briefly talk IU football.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the radio network. Charles Arbuckle is with us. Were
you side swiped at all by the Philip Rivers first
interest and then the signing move that came shortly thereafter
earlier today.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know, I had heard a few rumblings about it,
and then when I saw it, I was like, man,
But then I started going back in the history of
Shane Steichen. I guess, you know, eight years around him
when he was in San Diego, and the real close
affinity that they both have for each other. They love offense,
and you know, once I heard Riley Leonard was hurt.
(00:34):
You know, it's gonna be tough to get anybody with
that much experience to come in and know what you
want them to do. So, I mean, you were playing
Return of the Mac. I was like, are we gonna go?
You know, what's his walk up music? Now? You know
old Man River, Old Man River keeps rolling alone. I mean,
you know we're gonna go back to back in the
day to find the oldest songs that you can. But
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the thing is, you know, Aaron Rode I've just been
able to do it, although he has not been out
as long as Philip Rivers, And you know, I'm just
I'm just interested to see how it's gonna be. I'm
wondering if that's gonna work. And you know, if you
can keep them standing up right and throw the ball
for one, maybe two games, if Riley Leonard is out
for any extend dependent period of time, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
All right. So if Riley Leonard is compromising, all meaning,
if he can go out there and play but is
still dinged up, I guess what I'm asking here. Would
you start Philip Rivers regardless on Sunday if he checks
out physically speaking, in these next three days of practice,
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would you start him over a dinged up Riley Leonard
or just in general, over Riley Leonard on Sunday in Seattle?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, I was. I was pleasantly surprised with Riley Leonard
and how he was able to play and do that.
Philip Rivers is still going to have his head, he
still to have his arm, you know, and he's still
gonna be able to talk trash with the best of them.
Now will his body be able to move? I have
no idea, and that's what I want to be able
to see. And I think the cultures, if they're smart
enough and they do decide to start them, it would
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be in the way that they're going to have a
healthy dose of the run game, which they don't always do,
especially with the team that I think in the first
half their point differential was one hundred and twenty four.
Matt Taylor and I were talking earlier and I saw
one sixty or something like that for the whole game.
They're outscoring people in the first half. One's twenty four
point differential. So this team is like really explosive on offense,
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but they're pounding people on defense. So you got to
start fast. And I don't know if you want to
in lumin Phield, I'm just if you've never been there, JMV.
And I've been there when it was Quest Phild whatever.
It is one of the loudest outdoor places I know.
Kansas City gets loud, but that twelveth man there, man,
they can get after you. And now that they're winning,
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all the makings of you don't want to put a
young guy in that, you put him in the rain.
He tried to do the best that he could if
he's anywhere hurt, which is what Riley Dunners game is.
If his knee is not able, you almost are better
off rolling out, you know, Philip Rivers, because you know,
at least in his mind, you give yourself somewhat of
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a chance.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So Charles r buckles with us. So we know this
because we've heard I think JJ Watt had this a
little bit earlier that Shane Steiking and Philip Rivers talk often.
Philip Rivers high school wise runs the same stuff that
they do in Indie with Shane Steik and and they've
long time bring friends and certainly people that love offensive football.
(03:43):
So I guess what I'm asking you is a former player,
how long would he take Let's just say they deem him,
you know, physical enough to make a return and trust
him to go out there and be under center. How
long would it take him to get up to speed
with this offense and give me some of the adjust
us so much this team would have to make because
the one thing that hasn't been there and certainly when
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Daniel Jones was compromised with that fibula injury before the
Achilles is the offensive line hasn't been protecting very well
and that hasn't been working out as of late. And
you look at the mobility of Jones and he's probably
like Michael Vick compared to what Philip Rivers is going
to look like at there, even while injured. So how
does that change the dynamic if we do indeed see
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Rivers on.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Sunday, Well, Rivers can still get the ball out pretty quick.
That was his mo right, I mean when he was
there before and even when he was younger. It wasn't
about his ability to run. I mean, Philip Rivers has
never been that guy. But his ability to understand and
diagnose the defense pre snap and then post snap was
what made him special. And so getting the ball out
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quicker where teams are going to say, well, this old
guy can't throw it. Does he still have the arm
to get it down the field? I have no idea,
and nobody has seen him in what four or five years,
so we don't know that to be true. But we
do know to be true is his ability to dissect
defenses and tell defense defenders, hey, you're not in the
right place because of the things that he's seen on film.
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He does have that, and I heard Derwin James even
laugh and say what is going on? But the last
thing he said in that clip was he still has
his arm and he still has his head. So the
one thing I would think with this offense is going
to change is some of the quick hitting things get
the ball out quicker. I'd also say more more Jonathan Taylor,
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not just in the run game, but in the past game,
because he's been so effective and if you need to
rest him, please use other people because you're not gonna
get any run threat out of Philip Rivers none. So
it's a lot of that. And then also the tight
ends come in the more play because you're gonna need
a guy. You're gonna need guys that can in twelve
personnel keep rushers off of him, but then also be
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threats when you leak out into the routes, which you
know Tyler Warren has shown that he can do and
has done very well so far this year.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
How do you say Riley Leonard played against the Jags Sunday?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I thought he did pretty well. You know, I'm getting
ready to rewatch it again. I thought to be thrown
into an environment like that, I thought Riley had a
really good camp. I think the last game that we
saw him was when he was playing against since the
last game I saw was Cincinnati Live, and I even
came away from that because I saw his dad and
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his mom and I was like, I even told him,
I said, he has really improved because jamb I got
to see. The good thing is I get to see
a lot of these guys in college calling games. And
I can remember when Riley Leonard was at Duke. The
one knock on him was that he was a great
athlete but could not necessarily spend it like they wanted
him to, and he relied too much on his legs.
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Each time I saw him this summer or this fall
in camp, I thought he had really made the progression,
and you could see it when he got to know
the Dame. But he has been so and you can
see he's methodical on what he's been doing and he's
been working with it. And I thought, you know, he
gave them the best chance that they had at that point.
It wasn't the greatest game, but I thought to be
thrown into that kind of environment without any snaps, because
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you know, people will say, well, even though Daniel Jones
was hurt, they were using him with the ones. No,
they weren't. The Only person that was getting snaps was
Daniel until he went down with that Achilles injury. Even
with the hurt leg. You would still see him out
there because you want to make sure he's rapping with
the guys that he's going to be playing with, so
to not be able to be in any live situations.
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Even though you go out to walk through you're doing
some things. You might get a you know, twenty percent
of the snaps, ten percent of the snaps, depending on
you know, how they break up the playscript. I thought
he did a pretty good job, and then he showed
that his progression has gotten only better and better. And
who one of the guys that he works out with
in the offseason has been so Rivers. So it's an
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interesting thing to see how this can come. And you know,
I just hope that the Colts can find some kind
of way to manufacture something because it has been it
has not been good to watch them from what we
saw when they were going seven to one to what's
happening now.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hey, Charles, would you trust the Riley Leonard that you saw,
even if he is a bit compromised on Sunday against
Seattle or the unearthing and the rebirthing of Philip Rivers
for the first time in five seasons on Sunday, where
would you trust Lie under Center there.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. For me, because I haven't seen Philip Rivers in
the year, I trusts Riley Leonard, and I'd also say
it'd be good for him to have not only Shane
in his ear, but another guy that knows this offense
like the back of his hand. I think that's the
other reason why I think it's a good pickup, if
they can allow anybody else to play physically but mentally
take some of the things that he's able to give you.
(08:52):
Along with Daniel Jones, who will be around after he
has a surgery and is able to start coming back
around the program. I think those are the things you
look at. If Joe Flacco were available, I'm sure they
would have loved to pick them up, but there's no
longer a trade deadline, and Cincinnati as poorly as they played,
especially Joe Burrow who hadn't played well the last few weeks,
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that's not going to happen. So you know, you can
say it's a reach, and I think it is, but
I think it's the best reach that you can take
at this point.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So Charles Arbuckle, he's kind of to join us on
the Andy Morro Automotive Group potline. I'll get to the
IU and Rose Bowl and number one, which is crazy
stuff to talk about, but you and I had this
conversation about that before. But how do you feel about
this Colts team and what has transpired? Certainly not just
so much with the injuries and they're trying to track
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down a quarterback, But even before Daniel Jones was injured,
we we saw I thought Pittsburgh kind of pulled back
the curtain on him a little bit and exposed them.
And let's just face it, since that point in time,
they really have even that winning Berlin been circling the drain.
What's happened in all of the or what's been the
focus compared to how smooth the operation was going in
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the first two months.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I think there are a couple of things. When they
have lost. You can see that the run game hasn't
been able to be as explosive as it was. They've
got you know, that's one of the things that has
to happen again. But I'll say, not only look at
the offense. If you're going to play complimentary football, the
defense hasn't played as well. They haven't been able to
get off on off the field on third down and
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some of those deep grows where we saw these guys
battling and going up and getting the ball and making plays.
We haven't seen that as much. So without a Sauce
Gardner and the moone Shavarius Ward, there's going to have
to be young guys to step up. And also, I
think too in the middle of the field when there's
coverage bus it seems to happen in that middle of
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the field. They have to show those things up, but
they kind of get home on third down man, And
I think that's what I saw early on the pressure
that they were putting on the quarterbacks every single week.
Even you know, like you look at that game in
Berlin when they really needed to doll it up, they
were able to get home with pressure. That hasn't happened
as much in the last few weeks. And if you
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can't get to guys like you know, like the players
that they've played and who they're getting ready to play,
it makes it a tough game to be, you know,
on the field twelve plays, thirteen plays or explosive players
that you give up. So I think those are the
things you have to see, and they've got to get
something out of the special teams game, especially when when
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you're not manufacturing points on offense, you gotta find ways.
We're seeing the Eagles struggle just the same. The Eagles
started out really hot. Now they can't stay away from
turning over the ball, and their defense has given up
a lot of run yards of last week and then
this week explosive plays over the top kind of the
same thing that's happened with the Colts. Gotta find ways
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to show that up on the defensive side.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Charles R. Buckles kind of have to join us. The
former Coast tight end and a member of the Colt
A Radio network, keys on the Andymore Automotive Group potline.
All right, so are you what you thought about that
win at the Big Ten title game Saturday against Ohio
stated then moving forward as the one seed of the
College football playoff, Rose bull bound they get the winner
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of Alabama and Oklahoma. What are your thoughts really with
the entire situation which is nothing less than mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, Alabama getting in, you know, the SEC needed the
fifth so they they you know, they didn't have enough before,
so they had to get in an extra one in
and you know, Notre Dame took their ball and went home,
and Notre Dame was trying to draft with the ACC,
even though they're not an ACC member. They thought that
that would grant them not only their independence, but their opportunity.
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And at the end of the day, when I look
at our you, I mean, I just I go back
to our conversations about Fernando Mendoza when he got there.
I said then, and I'll say now, I had not
seen a tougher kid. That didn't you know, that sounded
very you know, sounded like a choir boy. But when
you punch him in the mouth and you would get
after him. Even when he was at CAL he seemed
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to just elevate his game, only missed one or two
plays after he got blasted, and came back and made plays.
And I think this IU team is kind of indicative
of their coach. If Cooper goes out, we're going to
see a healthy dose. So Charlie Becker, who people are like, well,
who the heck is Charlie Becker. Charlie Becker was a
track guy in high school. Didn't have a lot of looks,
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but probably IU might have been one of his only
teams that really wanted to offer right. But he is
a guy that's making plays. If I go to the
defensive side, I don't care what you say about their offense,
they're gonna get after you. But their defense, especially the
front seven, is just nasty and that has allowed them
to play like they can. Julian sand and Moore Dante
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Moore had not been sacked, but in those two games
that defensive front got in with the safeties and how
they do different things on the back end, eleven sacks.
So this team knows how to play, and I think
Kirk Signetti takes a lot of that away from them
by the things that he says. But if you can
say it and your team can back it up, that's
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where you're in a good position. And I mean I
like how they run the football. I mean everything they
do is just set up for a good run because
you do everything well. You play well on defense, you
play well on offense, special teams wise, that gives you something.
You don't allow big plays against your special teams. If
you can do that, you have a chance to play.
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And I think people now have to stop saying, hey,
we're so surprised that I you I'm not shocked that
they have played as well as they did the other day.
Now can they put it together and make a run
through the college football playoffs and chimes.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
The one thing about their running backs, both Himby and Black,
it seems like even in situations where they get stuffed,
they move things forward and still get another yard and
a half for two more yards, and oftentimes that keeps
them out of long yarded situations. So I guess you
can always say plays like that work, but it looks
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like they're not working, but they always fall forward and
get extra yards. Switch as we saw on that Big
Ten title game, you know, when the margin of victory
was as such, those yards were necessary at times to
extend drives.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Hemby is averaging five point three yards of carry, right,
that just means every time he touches it, you're second
and five, or if he's on second and if it's
second and ten, he gets, you know, five. So whatever
you're doing, it's getting you there. Black is at five
point eight yards of carry. So when you have two
guys that can run the ball and like you said,
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always seem to be falling forward, that's a hard thing
to stop because if the moralizer your defense and even
Ohio State the other night as good as they are.
Those two guys they kept, they stayed after the run game,
they didn't move away from it. And I think the
other thing is you got a bunch of dudes that
you know, came from JMU wit coach Signetti, and they're
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playing with house money now because all these guys were told, hey,
you're two star, you're a three star, You're not that good.
Now you can't play there. Him Be was at Maryland,
now he's here. You know, Black was at JMU. Those
kind of guys play with a chip on their shoulder,
and when you have to play him, they don't quit.
They don't you know, you just can't say, oh, I'm
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gonna you know, push you around and you're gonna stop playing. No,
And like I said, Fischer on defense seems to be
the heart and soul. But they got a lot of
dudes over there that just understand, you know how, We're
gonna be physical, We're gonna be tough. That's our DNA,
and even if we get behind our forehead, we're gonna
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play like we have nothing to lose, and you better
be ready to take this, uh you know this punishment
we're gonna dole out every single play.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, the the out physically and out toughing is probably
the highest of levels of things. I would never say
guy would see IU do to a team like Ohio State.
And then you think about how often they got to
saying they sacked him five times when he had been
sacked just six times on the season in fact, and
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there are two toughest matchups Oregon and Ohio State, they
were I think responsible for eleven sacks and those two
high level games, and those two teams only gave up
twenty five sacks the entire year, and IU was responsible
for eleven of them. That's pretty amazing stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And a guy like Mario Landino, who you know, six
four to eighty four out of Pennsylvania, he's looking across
the way in all those first round supposedly guys on
the other side. He's just a sophomore, still a young pup,
but how many times not only did he fac and
be involved, but he was also a pressure in the
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run game. So I think, you know, when you have
dudes that like. The thing that I like about this
team that I liked even last year more so this
year is at all eleven seem to be playing for
each other like the offense doesn't get on the defense.
If they make a mistake, there's probably going to be
some chirping at each other more so, like, hey, guys, look,
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if we battle each other like we do, let's not
go out here and lose this thing against these guys
that were playing. And I think that's what you look
at from that standpoint, But I just have to go
back to it when you come from a school like
James Madison, like Aiden Fisher, when you you know guys
that transfer in and you say this is the big
time and you've been able to play everybody and bludgeon
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everybody pretty much except for Ohio State, and you know
they struggled against Penn State. But Penn State, we're starting
to see now actually had some talent. It just didn't
show it all the time. But be able to be
more physical than the teams in your conference that everybody
talks about. That gives you a lot of confidence. But
I love what Kirk Signetti said leaving that, Hey, I
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got to figure out a way to get these guys
to stop smelling themselves, so to speak. And that's going
to be really critical because everybody's going to tell them
how good they are when they walk in that building
and into the unit where they are, they're going to
have coaches tell them, no, you're not that good. How
do we keep that boulder on our shoulder because we're
getting ready to go into another step and we got
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to really be ready to play and.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Some amazing stuff. By the way, I thought one of
the better players individual performances that went a little bit
unnoticed was Isaiah Jones. Defensively made some big plays, some
incredibly long runs, and some trackdowns in that game that
were necessary given the moments. And I don't think we
talked too much about it. He's going to join us
on the show later all this week, but I thought
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he had some big moments and that went over Ohio
State Saturday.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, hey, look man, and I know some of those
guys from those eighty seven eighty eight teams when they
had Bill Mallory, they were some They were some dudes
you want to go in the alley with, right, I mean,
even as they were older. I knew a bunch of
them living in Nby, and I can always hear them saying, Hey,
it can be done down at IU, but here are
the things you have to do, and so you can
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kind of see that. You see a bunch of tough
guys that you walk in the alley with and not
have a problem because they're gonna fight with you. They
won't run from you. They're gonna fight with you. And
that's what you got to have when you want to
be good in college football or any level of football,
and especially in the Big Ten, where you know, and
I'll just say this, I knew how you could play
with Ohio State when I saw how Michigan played in
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the first half against them in that game before the
Big Ten Championship. I almost texted you when that game
was happening because Michigan was pushing Ohio State around a
little bit. They just didn't have a guy at the
quarterback position. Yet it was grown up to understand how
to get through that, how to how to fight through
that next level when you have them down, so you
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stay on top of them and you just pin them down.
You understood how to come back. They knew how to
play in that game, and they knew how to stay close.
When the fourth quarter got there, they were able to
win that. So I'm interested to see how they battle
this next round. All right.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Charles Arbuckle, the former Colts tight end and UCLA Bruin
as well, and the Hoosiers will be playing instide his
old stomping grounds kinning up here on January or one,
a part of the Rose Bowl with Bama and Oklahoma.
Charles kind enough to join us on the Anymore Automotive
Group potline. Our expectation is we're watching a forty four
year old dude that's been retired for five years under
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center of the Colts coming up in Seattle on Sunday. Sorry,
whatever floats on boat. I mean, it seems like we've
seen everything else. Why not the right JMB.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
The other thing too, This league is so thickle, right, Yeah.
Sam Donell has played really well. They protected Sam, They've
done a lot with him. Drew Locke also as a
guy that's on their their you know, their roster. You
start getting the Sam early. We have seen him not
be as good. He's had a reclamation similar to Daniel Jones.
I do think they have to find ways to get
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to him, and when they do, that gives you a
chance to get the ball back some of the things
we saw earlier. If you don't get the Sam Darnold,
y're in for a long day because they run the
football and they try to get up on top of you.
And they got three receivers of two in particular Jackson
Smith and j Cooper Cupp who are tough about and
Cooper Cup is still playing like he's a young pub
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So you better be ready to play this team, and
you better start fast because if you don't, it's gonna
be a long day.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, we're also thinking about this too. Their secondary has
been significantly compromised. We know about Sauce Gardner and share
various ward and concussion protocol for a third time this year.
So all of that leads to not good. But we
shall see, Charles. I appreciate it, man. We'll catch up
again very soon, all.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right, man, take care.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The side of the Rose Bowl is Pasadena and coming
up on January the one to start a new year,
because it is a new legacy of value football in
year number two, number one rank going in to the
college football playoff. And the former Hoosier has a grin.
I am sure from ear to ear, the former linebacker
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and friend of the show, and they hady More Automotive
Group pile line. His name is Matt Surface. Hello, Matt Hey.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Jmvues have hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I can't stop smiling.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's an amazing time to be a who's your football fan?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Now, I would think it would be easier for you
to come to grips with the reality of this compared
to a lot of us out there that you know,
we weren't in the locker room like you were with
teams of the past, and you know, obviously a part
of the history too. Is it easier for you to say, yeah,
this is reality than us every single time it's brought up, go, wow,
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this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, I see how the mental state of a team
can feel like going into every year, John, we thought
like we were gonna win. I mean, you know, and well,
you know, we only had a winning season really one
of the years.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
That I was playing down there.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But you still go in with a real good feeling,
a real good optimism because you know the work you
put in, you know the work your teammates have put in,
and you feel good about it. And it's almost a surprise,
quite frankly, when you lose some games. But then it
gets to be on kind of a role and you
know it really that snowball is hard to stop rolling
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down the hill, and so yeah, eventually it almost becomes inevitable.
But even I mean, I can't say that I'm not
shocked a little bit by just the way that they
have gone about their business this year, week by week,
and those plays that used to go the other way
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are now going the Hoosiers way. And it happened in
Iowa Penn State, and certainly then again in the biggest
game that I use ever played in football in Lucasoil
the other night.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know what, to Matt, the thing that you could
always count on is at some point is the talent
of the physicality of a team like Ohio State to overpower,
to swamp you no matter what might be going right
for a portion of a game. And it was iu
that fletxed in Ohio State on Saturday night that to
me was the most notable of the incredible circumstances. That
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is just such a huge change from what we have
known in the past, no.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Question, And we talked about it a few weeks ago
when we were discussing, I think after the Oregon game,
just how strong this defensive front seven is. But I mean,
you got to say the whole unit. But really, I
use always had some skill players here and there. Certainly
even in the NFL. We've put some defensive backs and
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a couple of line acts, but for the most part,
it's been that front seven that's been dare I say
dominated against team like you know, Michigan, Ohio State would
have been Oregon potentially this year.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
But this is a different unit.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I mean, this is there.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
We're the same colors, but this is a different brand
of football. And I mean defensively, they've just been amazing
up front. You know, we hear a lot about Heismandoza
and rightfully, so I'm on that train, right but and
Omark Cooper and sarat and Himby and Black and all
of that and well deserved. But in reality, the reason
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they are where they are is they haven't the two
teams score more than fifteen points all year. And I
mean it's just been an incredible display defensively. And you
saw it again in Lucasol Stadium, and they just the
way they shut down, or I won't say shut down
completely because Ohio they had a few place here and there.
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They weren't able to lean on IU though and take
advantage of it. And I you made them pick up,
you know, first down after first down instead of hitting.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
A bunch, you know, a couple of big.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Plays and at some point in that drive when you've
got to make them, you know, execute play in and
play out, they have a negative play. All of a sudden,
they're behind schedule, behind the sticks, and you saw a
lot of third downs that Ohio State could not convert
against this fantastic defense the Hoosiers at.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, and Matt Surfers the former or who's your defensive
players kind of not to join us on the Andy
Moore Auto Motive Group hotline. I'm assuming you're going right
to southern California.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I mean it's out.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
There, like, uh, there's a very strong possibility, but you know,
it just I think all things got to come into account.
But yeah, I mean I've been in great discussion with
the good friend of mine talking about.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Heading out there.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I mean, it's hard to think of missing the Hoosiers playing,
you know, not just in the CFP the playoffs, but
but being the number one seed and doing it.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
In the Rose Bowl. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I mean, the fact that they get to play that
game in the Rose Bowl, I think it's fitting. So yeah,
I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Opportunity as a as a high level quarterback and what
is going to be ultimately a future Heisman Trophy winner
in Fernando Mendoza. What trait does he have either skill
set physically or mentally or just as outgoing nature too
of leadership. What trait stands out to you as far
as what he presents at the highest level for this
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football team and its success.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I feel like his accuracy, his ability to read and
know where the ball needs to be and then throw
it exactly where it needs to be. I mean that
is I mean, a lot of people can get it
within a good vicinity, but to throw it on point
in the biggest moments of the game, man, that takes
just that takes calm demeanor internally, even though you know
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there's emotions and so forth. But to be able to
kind of settle that, lower the heart rate and execute.
I just to me, it's amazing how he is so
accurate in the biggest moments of football games.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I feel just so comfortable having that guy.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And I love just his you know, humility. I love
his the way everything is about.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Team and winning.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And he's done just an amazing job to throw thirty
three touchdowns to only six interceptions and complete but it's
like over seventy percent of his balls. I mean, it's
just incredible. And to me, I bet you know, his
stats in the second half, I'm sure better than the
stats in the first half, just because of how.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Clutch he's been.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Is really the only way to say.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It, Hey, declare the cobwebs immediately following that first hit
by Caden on the first play and over overcome that.
I mean, it's one thing to talked about it afterwards,
as as he has done, and rightly so when asked,
but you know, to shake that off in the the
expeditious fashion and what she did that may have been
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the most incredible maneuver of the night because I know
all i U fans thought at that moment that things
were in dire circumstances and his brother was out there
for what a play And then there he comes trotting
back in and is good to go, and that he
got absolutely drilled by Cayden on that play too.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Oh he did.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And I mean, I can't say enough about the game
Curry played, man.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I mean, he's a hell of a play.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I mean, he's a believable I mean I've watched a
few games this year, and he's been great, There's no question.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I mean, the guy's got eleven on the year, and you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Know what, he's waited his turn over there too. I
mean it's been a long time coming for him to
be able to show it at that level.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Absolutely, and and it's great to see, you know, an
IU guy or an IU an Indiana kid to do
well out there wherever they are. I certainly root for
anybody played high school in the state of Indiana, and
he played at a great program and he's a phenomenal player.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
But yeah, that shot.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That he gave Mentoza was just something that defensive players
dream about and and you know, left him knocked him
out of the game. You don't want him to get hurt,
but I'm telling you, man, there's bad intentions when defenders
are hitting people with the ball or quarterbacks, and uh,
you know, you don't want to injure them, but you
don't mind them getting the win knocked out of them
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for sure. So h for him Mendoza to go off
and to come back like a play later, I thought
was just shows the toughness, the commitment to the team.
I mean a lot of people would have tried. I
think just because you know, every everybody that's playing.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
At that level, for the most part, loves it.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I mean they love the game, they love their teammates.
But I mean not a lot could because that was
a devastating shot and yeah, I was concerned about the shoulder,
but just the way he took the hit, but thankfully
all was okay, and he showed some toughness and leadership
in immediately.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Coming back out former who's your Matt surface on the
Andy Moore Automatic Group podline. You could certainly tell us
because you played the game at that level before. But
when we often talk about Kurt Signetti being ahead of
the opposing coach or you know, out in front of
what actually is going on to more easily change up
and make the right calls, is that what you see
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play after play, And it just seems like that very
few coaches have that going for them, and when they do,
you can certainly tell, and I think with Signetti that's
something you can certainly tell.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
So it's one thing to make the kind of the
right call right, the ones that are down on paper
that everybody knows you probably should make. Now, some coaches
go against the grain and try to, you know, buff
the system and play by the gut. And I appreciate
that sometimes, but it feels like you're It does feel
like he's always ahead of the game, but it doesn't
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like it's not confined to just the game. In game call,
he has these guys ready to play every stinking week, man,
I mean, and and to do that when when when
you got to play, Uh, I don't know Maryland, I mean,
or Nebraska or who you know, teams that you probably
should be. No disrespect to Nebraska, of course, But what
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I'm getting at is he's got him ready to play,
and regardless of what happens in the game, they're coming
out and playing and making the next play. And and
he says that like in the pregame or any of
the interviews, next play, next play. And that's been instilled
in his team. It's not just coach speed. He's he's
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driving us there on the on the on the practice
fields in Bloomington. He's driving it home there because it
comes out to put to fruition.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
In the games.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And uh, you can't just show up on Saturday and
give a raw Ross speech and hope that's gonna work.
He's instilled that from the beginning, and that's clear as
anything that he's really really built that into the team,
and that's a big reason why they are where they are.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
So anybody you'd rather see more Oklahoma or Alabama in
this case for the Rose Boy.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
That's a great I've been trying. I've been going back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I feel like I feel like I just haven't been
sold on Oklahoma the entire year.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
And I know that Materier was hurt.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
For a little bit, but I I feel like they
have a really good defense, but I really don't believe
their defense is as good as Ohio States, and so
for that reason, I mean, I feel like I'd rather
probably play Oklahoma. But it's a coin flip. I think
the Hoosiers are in a handle whoever they play, not easily,
but I think they're going to take care of business
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because of the defense that they play and the way
that they execute offensively. And that that interception that Fernando
threw on Saturday, I mean, my goodness, it's not like
he just made a bad decision that threw it into coverage.
I mean it was it was a ball that got
tipped up and caught by the defender. So you know,
I feel like they take care of the ball and
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and they don't let you score touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You like me, I don't care who we play.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Will you like me? And listen? Well, I have a
great deal of trust and you should with the IU
defense because it's shown. I was really glad that, for
whatever reason, Ryan Dayan company decided not to every single
time out throw it to one of those two wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Particularly Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Lord, have mercy. That dude is talented as hell.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Man, amazing by just and to have this eyes that
he doesn't and to be able to run like he can't.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
No, I mean, I'd be hard pressed. I'd be hard
pressed not to just like throw it to them every
single time, like either Or or Smith.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I believe me, I know, and that's why I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So he threw it to one of those time ends.
I go, great, great, great call.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Where to go? Right?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well yeah, go ahead and take that first down.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And we'll there's that former guy out there.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Good keep it away from from Smith.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
But now it's interesting, I don't have.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
A tip your cat.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
What about Ponds man?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean the way that Ponds played in coverage, I mean, yeah, okay,
I'm not going to say Smith didn't have a good game,
because he really did, there's no.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But but he didn't, you know, he didn't kill the
Hoosiers and he ultimately didn't score any touchdowns. And I
credit there was some really really good coverage on some
tough plays sure that I you made. And so yeah,
give credit to that secondary and the pressure that was
I'm saying to.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
But yeah, I hope that when we meet them again
in the final game, and I believe that's what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I hope that we can shut.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Them down the sane thinking about that too. Six sacks
the entire season and I you got him on Saturday
night five times, which is pretty impressing. All Right, we'll
check in. We'll check in when we find out who
they're going to play once again. But you got you
got to let me know if you find travel plans
and lodging out there for that particular well, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
It'll probably be on the discount budget.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
But hey, we got to get out there.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well done, brother, I appreciate you. Hey, congratulations. I know
as a former AU football player, there's a lot of
gratifying moments you have seen in the last two years,
and this certainly so far as the top of the heat.
Congratulations on that.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
It feels great.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I remember when I first started talking with Bob Lovell
on shows on Saturday twenty years ago that I speak
a big game and think that we're gonna win and
then you know, but I honestly never dreamed that the
Hoosiers would be ranked number one the nation. Feel start good, John,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Got it? Thanks Matt on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
There he is Greg Rigstraw. Hello, Greg, we got to
go really quick. How are you brother?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I am sorry to make your way like that, sir.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Great Hey Philip Rivers today, what are you thinking about
the signing?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Uh? It's kind of an acknowledgement as to what is
available and out there in the quarterback market. With four
weeks left to go in the season, you get to
a certain point where you simply run out of available talent.
Like I got a text and a phone call, you know,
on Sunday about you know, should Chris Ballad have done
something to address the backup quarterback positions before I knew
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that Riley Leonard was hurt, you know, after Anthony Richardson
was hurt back in week six and John there's just
not that many guys available then or trade for a
backup quarterback. You get to week fifteen, the market is
picked bare. So is this gonna work? I don't think so.
I don't think it's going to But you know what,
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it's not like there was somebody else of the current
market they were going to pluck out and be able
to come in and have success.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I will say this, I don't think they're bringing him
in without a thought or a belief that he can
help them win a couple of games here down the stretch.
I mean, I think it's more than just stop gap
in this case, or you know, the lack of anybody
on this market. I think that there is a belief.
I mean it may be ill advised belief, but there's
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certainly a belief there.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Greg correct. And you know, when you see highlights for
what he was doing five years ago, you worry about
the arm strength then, and then you have five years
of not training on a regular basis on top of that.
Does he know the offense? Absolutely? I think his mine
still sharp? Absolutely? And maybe you could said there wasn't
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as much physical gifts that we're going to fall fall,
you know, off the table, but proofs of the pudding
we'll see on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, no doubt about that. So and clearly, I mean
they've decided to crank up the whole practice week with
trying to get him acclimated in mind. What do you
think the odds are that he starts that game on Sunday?
Are they as high as I think they are to you?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I think he's a likely starter on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Me too, you know. I mean, you've.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Got Brett Ripping that's on your practice squad, but you
don't make this move to bring him in as the
backup or the in case guy. I think he's the
starting quarterback on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
All right, quick, A couple of quick thoughts regarding AU
going to the Rose Bowl the number one seed in
the college football Playoff. I think we've all described it
accurately how unbelievable it is. But the chances this team
can move forward, even breaking new ground more so than
what we thought against Ohio State on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
If you can beat Ohio State, you can win the
Big Ten championship. You can beat anybody else that's out there,
and then you run the table and win all three games.
But the next barrier to break for Indiana football, remember
they have not won a bowl game, a postseason game
since the Copper Bowl in nineteen ninety one. And for
as great as last season was and getting to play
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in the College Ball Playoff, they weren't that Competitive's notre Dame.
So that is the next barrier to trip for this
program is now go win the Rose Bowl and to
be able to play games after that. Again, it still
takes a little bit of brain rewiring to say that,
but go win a bowl game for the first time
in nearly forty years.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Now, that's incredible stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
What's your week look like?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Greg?
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Tonight is my off night, and then it is LCLN
tomorrow night at guy U Indy Greenberry. On Thursday night,
it is Carmel and Noblesville Friday night, it is a
doubleheader at Southport on Saturday night, and then it's Cults on.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Someone who's Southport on Saturday night.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Right, this is the tip Off Classic, as has been
sponsored by form Credit.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Here means they're going to cut down the nets afterwards.
That's problematic for me. On Sunday morning, Greg, But thanks
for jing.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
They're probably going to do that after the Marion County
Tournament and the regional and the semi state. I don't
think they're cutting the nets down after the Superstar Events
tip off Classics, So you'll be able to yell short
no problem.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
This week Fine, that's good, as I know nobody else
around those are going to cut any nets down eight
time soon, so I feel confident in that. But no, seriously,
who's in that matchup this weekend?
Speaker 5 (42:33):
All right? So twelve teams are playing starts at twelve thirty.
We'll have all six games in the ISC Sports Network.
My two games in the last two games on my
NDTV twenty three Carmel and Crown Point at seven, followed
by Fishers and Penn at eight thirty.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Man Fishers, what did you think about Fishers and Mount Vernon,
Because you had a lot of stars there, from a
gardener to an urdle and all the way around. You
had a lot of stars in that particular matchup early
season wise.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Correct, And the way I would describe it is that
Fishers can still be the best team in the state.
It's just they don't have the margin for error. That
they had, and Garol Wineger was pretty critical of his
team after the game and talking with Kylevin Enderp, I
think that was sending a message more than anything else.
This Fishers team is probably have to win on what
they do defensively. Let's face it, they got three of
the best players in the state in terms of Gardener,
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in terms of Zachary, and in terms of mcgru But
they were so offensively beautiful to watch over the course
of the last couple of years. They're still trying to
figure that out a little bit. And frankly, you can
kind of sit on more guys. You couldn't really do that.
There was not a guy you could just dare to
shoot an open jump shot because he'd make it over
the course of the last couple of seasons. So Fishers
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is still really good. But they're probably gonna win a
lot more games in the forties and fifties than they've
had to the last couple of years when they were
putting up seventy eighty no problem on a given night.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Keep on keeping on, man, I appreciate you dropping in.
We'll see what you guys have good to talk talk about.
On Sunday after the game I mean, it could be
incredibly interesting or not, but could be.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I think it's going to be interesting whether it's good
or bad. It's a different story, and obviously I hope
for the hope of the former in that equation.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You got it. Thanks Greg,
From the radio network. Charles Arbuckle is with us. Were
you side swiped at all by the Philip Rivers first
interest and then the signing move that came shortly thereafter
earlier today.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You know, I had heard a few rumblings about it,
and then when I saw it, I was like, man,
But then I started going back in the history of
Shane Steichen. I guess, you know, eight years around him
when he was in San Diego, and the real close
affinity that they both have for each other. They love offense,
and you know, once I heard Riley Leonard was hurt.
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You know, it's gonna be tough to get anybody with
that much experience to come in and know what you
want them to do. So, I mean, you were playing
Return of the Mac. I was like, are we gonna go?
You know, what's his walk up music? Now? You know
old Man River, Old Man River keeps rolling alone. I mean,
you know we're gonna go back to back in the
day to find the oldest songs that you can. But
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the thing is, you know, Aaron Rode I've just been
able to do it, although he has not been out
as long as Philip Rivers, And you know, I'm just
I'm just interested to see how it's gonna be. I'm
wondering if that's gonna work. And you know, if you
can keep them standing up right and throw the ball
for one, maybe two games, if Riley Leonard is out
for any extend dependent period of time, it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
All right. So if Riley Leonard is compromising, all meaning,
if he can go out there and play but is
still dinged up, I guess what I'm asking here. Would
you start Philip Rivers regardless on Sunday if he checks
out physically speaking, in these next three days of practice,
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would you start him over a dinged up Riley Leonard
or just in general, over Riley Leonard on Sunday in Seattle?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, I was. I was pleasantly surprised with Riley Leonard
and how he was able to play and do that.
Philip Rivers is still going to have his head, he
still to have his arm, you know, and he's still
gonna be able to talk trash with the best of them.
Now will his body be able to move? I have
no idea, and that's what I want to be able
to see. And I think the cultures, if they're smart
enough and they do decide to start them, it would
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be in the way that they're going to have a
healthy dose of the run game, which they don't always do,
especially with the team that I think in the first
half their point differential was one hundred and twenty four.
Matt Taylor and I were talking earlier and I saw
one sixty or something like that for the whole game.
They're outscoring people in the first half. One's twenty four
point differential. So this team is like really explosive on offense,
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but they're pounding people on defense. So you got to
start fast. And I don't know if you want to
in lumin Phield, I'm just if you've never been there, JMV.
And I've been there when it was Quest Phild whatever.
It is one of the loudest outdoor places I know.
Kansas City gets loud, but that twelveth man there, man,
they can get after you. And now that they're winning,
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all the makings of you don't want to put a
young guy in that, you put him in the rain.
He tried to do the best that he could if
he's anywhere hurt, which is what Riley Dunners game is.
If his knee is not able, you almost are better
off rolling out, you know, Philip Rivers, because you know,
at least in his mind, you give yourself somewhat of
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a chance.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So Charles r buckles with us. So we know this
because we've heard I think JJ Watt had this a
little bit earlier that Shane Steiking and Philip Rivers talk often.
Philip Rivers high school wise runs the same stuff that
they do in Indie with Shane Steik and and they've
long time bring friends and certainly people that love offensive football.
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So I guess what I'm asking you is a former player,
how long would he take Let's just say they deem him,
you know, physical enough to make a return and trust
him to go out there and be under center. How
long would it take him to get up to speed
with this offense and give me some of the adjust
us so much this team would have to make because
the one thing that hasn't been there and certainly when
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Daniel Jones was compromised with that fibula injury before the
Achilles is the offensive line hasn't been protecting very well
and that hasn't been working out as of late. And
you look at the mobility of Jones and he's probably
like Michael Vick compared to what Philip Rivers is going
to look like at there, even while injured. So how
does that change the dynamic if we do indeed see
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Rivers on.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Sunday, Well, Rivers can still get the ball out pretty quick.
That was his mo right, I mean when he was
there before and even when he was younger. It wasn't
about his ability to run. I mean, Philip Rivers has
never been that guy. But his ability to understand and
diagnose the defense pre snap and then post snap was
what made him special. And so getting the ball out
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quicker where teams are going to say, well, this old
guy can't throw it. Does he still have the arm
to get it down the field? I have no idea,
and nobody has seen him in what four or five years,
so we don't know that to be true. But we
do know to be true is his ability to dissect
defenses and tell defense defenders, hey, you're not in the
right place because of the things that he's seen on film.
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He does have that, and I heard Derwin James even
laugh and say what is going on? But the last
thing he said in that clip was he still has
his arm and he still has his head. So the
one thing I would think with this offense is going
to change is some of the quick hitting things get
the ball out quicker. I'd also say more more Jonathan Taylor,
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not just in the run game, but in the past game,
because he's been so effective and if you need to
rest him, please use other people because you're not gonna
get any run threat out of Philip Rivers none. So
it's a lot of that. And then also the tight
ends come in the more play because you're gonna need
a guy. You're gonna need guys that can in twelve
personnel keep rushers off of him, but then also be
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threats when you leak out into the routes, which you
know Tyler Warren has shown that he can do and
has done very well so far this year.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
How do you say Riley Leonard played against the Jags Sunday?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I thought he did pretty well. You know, I'm getting
ready to rewatch it again. I thought to be thrown
into an environment like that, I thought Riley had a
really good camp. I think the last game that we
saw him was when he was playing against since the
last game I saw was Cincinnati Live, and I even
came away from that because I saw his dad and
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his mom and I was like, I even told him,
I said, he has really improved because jamb I got
to see. The good thing is I get to see
a lot of these guys in college calling games. And
I can remember when Riley Leonard was at Duke. The
one knock on him was that he was a great
athlete but could not necessarily spend it like they wanted
him to, and he relied too much on his legs.
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Each time I saw him this summer or this fall
in camp, I thought he had really made the progression,
and you could see it when he got to know
the Dame. But he has been so and you can
see he's methodical on what he's been doing and he's
been working with it. And I thought, you know, he
gave them the best chance that they had at that point.
It wasn't the greatest game, but I thought to be
thrown into that kind of environment without any snaps, because
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you know, people will say, well, even though Daniel Jones
was hurt, they were using him with the ones. No,
they weren't. The Only person that was getting snaps was
Daniel until he went down with that Achilles injury. Even
with the hurt leg. You would still see him out
there because you want to make sure he's rapping with
the guys that he's going to be playing with, so
to not be able to be in any live situations.
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Even though you go out to walk through you're doing
some things. You might get a you know, twenty percent
of the snaps, ten percent of the snaps, depending on
you know, how they break up the playscript. I thought
he did a pretty good job, and then he showed
that his progression has gotten only better and better. And
who one of the guys that he works out with
in the offseason has been so Rivers. So it's an
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interesting thing to see how this can come. And you know,
I just hope that the Colts can find some kind
of way to manufacture something because it has been it
has not been good to watch them from what we
saw when they were going seven to one to what's
happening now.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hey, Charles, would you trust the Riley Leonard that you saw,
even if he is a bit compromised on Sunday against
Seattle or the unearthing and the rebirthing of Philip Rivers
for the first time in five seasons on Sunday, where
would you trust Lie under Center there.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. For me, because I haven't seen Philip Rivers in
the year, I trusts Riley Leonard, and I'd also say
it'd be good for him to have not only Shane
in his ear, but another guy that knows this offense
like the back of his hand. I think that's the
other reason why I think it's a good pickup, if
they can allow anybody else to play physically but mentally
take some of the things that he's able to give you.
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Along with Daniel Jones, who will be around after he
has a surgery and is able to start coming back
around the program. I think those are the things you
look at. If Joe Flacco were available, I'm sure they
would have loved to pick them up, but there's no
longer a trade deadline, and Cincinnati as poorly as they played,
especially Joe Burrow who hadn't played well the last few weeks,
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that's not going to happen. So you know, you can
say it's a reach, and I think it is, but
I think it's the best reach that you can take
at this point.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
So Charles Arbuckle, he's kind of to join us on
the Andy Morro Automotive Group potline. I'll get to the
IU and Rose Bowl and number one, which is crazy
stuff to talk about, but you and I had this
conversation about that before. But how do you feel about
this Colts team and what has transpired? Certainly not just
so much with the injuries and they're trying to track
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down a quarterback, But even before Daniel Jones was injured,
we we saw I thought Pittsburgh kind of pulled back
the curtain on him a little bit and exposed them.
And let's just face it, since that point in time,
they really have even that winning Berlin been circling the drain.
What's happened in all of the or what's been the
focus compared to how smooth the operation was going in
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the first two months.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I think there are a couple of things. When they
have lost. You can see that the run game hasn't
been able to be as explosive as it was. They've
got you know, that's one of the things that has
to happen again. But I'll say, not only look at
the offense. If you're going to play complimentary football, the
defense hasn't played as well. They haven't been able to
get off on off the field on third down and
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some of those deep grows where we saw these guys
battling and going up and getting the ball and making plays.
We haven't seen that as much. So without a Sauce
Gardner and the moone Shavarius Ward, there's going to have
to be young guys to step up. And also, I
think too in the middle of the field when there's
coverage bus it seems to happen in that middle of
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the field. They have to show those things up, but
they kind of get home on third down man, And
I think that's what I saw early on the pressure
that they were putting on the quarterbacks every single week.
Even you know, like you look at that game in
Berlin when they really needed to doll it up, they
were able to get home with pressure. That hasn't happened
as much in the last few weeks. And if you
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can't get to guys like you know, like the players
that they've played and who they're getting ready to play,
it makes it a tough game to be, you know,
on the field twelve plays, thirteen plays or explosive players
that you give up. So I think those are the
things you have to see, and they've got to get
something out of the special teams game, especially when when
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you're not manufacturing points on offense, you gotta find ways.
We're seeing the Eagles struggle just the same. The Eagles
started out really hot. Now they can't stay away from
turning over the ball, and their defense has given up
a lot of run yards of last week and then
this week explosive plays over the top kind of the
same thing that's happened with the Colts. Gotta find ways
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to show that up on the defensive side.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Charles R. Buckles kind of have to join us. The
former Coast tight end and a member of the Colt
A Radio network, keys on the Andymore Automotive Group potline.
All right, so are you what you thought about that
win at the Big Ten title game Saturday against Ohio
stated then moving forward as the one seed of the
College football playoff, Rose bull bound they get the winner
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of Alabama and Oklahoma. What are your thoughts really with
the entire situation which is nothing less than mind blowing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well, Alabama getting in, you know, the SEC needed the
fifth so they they you know, they didn't have enough before,
so they had to get in an extra one in
and you know, Notre Dame took their ball and went home,
and Notre Dame was trying to draft with the ACC,
even though they're not an ACC member. They thought that
that would grant them not only their independence, but their opportunity.
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And at the end of the day, when I look
at our you, I mean, I just I go back
to our conversations about Fernando Mendoza when he got there.
I said then, and I'll say now, I had not
seen a tougher kid. That didn't you know, that sounded
very you know, sounded like a choir boy. But when
you punch him in the mouth and you would get
after him. Even when he was at CAL he seemed
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to just elevate his game, only missed one or two
plays after he got blasted, and came back and made plays.
And I think this IU team is kind of indicative
of their coach. If Cooper goes out, we're going to
see a healthy dose. So Charlie Becker, who people are like, well,
who the heck is Charlie Becker. Charlie Becker was a
track guy in high school. Didn't have a lot of looks,
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but probably IU might have been one of his only
teams that really wanted to offer right. But he is
a guy that's making plays. If I go to the
defensive side, I don't care what you say about their offense,
they're gonna get after you. But their defense, especially the
front seven, is just nasty and that has allowed them
to play like they can. Julian sand and Moore Dante
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Moore had not been sacked, but in those two games
that defensive front got in with the safeties and how
they do different things on the back end, eleven sacks.
So this team knows how to play, and I think
Kirk Signetti takes a lot of that away from them
by the things that he says. But if you can
say it and your team can back it up, that's
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where you're in a good position. And I mean I
like how they run the football. I mean everything they
do is just set up for a good run because
you do everything well. You play well on defense, you
play well on offense, special teams wise, that gives you something.
You don't allow big plays against your special teams. If
you can do that, you have a chance to play.
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And I think people now have to stop saying, hey,
we're so surprised that I you I'm not shocked that
they have played as well as they did the other day.
Now can they put it together and make a run
through the college football playoffs and chimes.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
The one thing about their running backs, both Himby and Black,
it seems like even in situations where they get stuffed,
they move things forward and still get another yard and
a half for two more yards, and oftentimes that keeps
them out of long yarded situations. So I guess you
can always say plays like that work, but it looks
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like they're not working, but they always fall forward and
get extra yards. Switch as we saw on that Big
Ten title game, you know, when the margin of victory
was as such, those yards were necessary at times to
extend drives.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Hemby is averaging five point three yards of carry, right,
that just means every time he touches it, you're second
and five, or if he's on second and if it's
second and ten, he gets, you know, five. So whatever
you're doing, it's getting you there. Black is at five
point eight yards of carry. So when you have two
guys that can run the ball and like you said,
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always seem to be falling forward, that's a hard thing
to stop because if the moralizer your defense and even
Ohio State the other night as good as they are.
Those two guys they kept, they stayed after the run game,
they didn't move away from it. And I think the
other thing is you got a bunch of dudes that
you know, came from JMU wit coach Signetti, and they're
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playing with house money now because all these guys were told, hey,
you're two star, you're a three star, You're not that good.
Now you can't play there. Him Be was at Maryland,
now he's here. You know, Black was at JMU. Those
kind of guys play with a chip on their shoulder,
and when you have to play him, they don't quit.
They don't you know, you just can't say, oh, I'm
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gonna you know, push you around and you're gonna stop playing. No,
And like I said, Fischer on defense seems to be
the heart and soul. But they got a lot of
dudes over there that just understand, you know how, We're
gonna be physical, We're gonna be tough. That's our DNA,
and even if we get behind our forehead, we're gonna
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play like we have nothing to lose, and you better
be ready to take this, uh you know this punishment
we're gonna dole out every single play.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, the the out physically and out toughing is probably
the highest of levels of things. I would never say
guy would see IU do to a team like Ohio State.
And then you think about how often they got to
saying they sacked him five times when he had been
sacked just six times on the season in fact, and
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there are two toughest matchups Oregon and Ohio State, they
were I think responsible for eleven sacks and those two
high level games, and those two teams only gave up
twenty five sacks the entire year, and IU was responsible
for eleven of them. That's pretty amazing stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And a guy like Mario Landino, who you know, six
four to eighty four out of Pennsylvania, he's looking across
the way in all those first round supposedly guys on
the other side. He's just a sophomore, still a young pup,
but how many times not only did he fac and
be involved, but he was also a pressure in the
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run game. So I think, you know, when you have
dudes that like. The thing that I like about this
team that I liked even last year more so this
year is at all eleven seem to be playing for
each other like the offense doesn't get on the defense.
If they make a mistake, there's probably going to be
some chirping at each other more so, like, hey, guys, look,
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if we battle each other like we do, let's not
go out here and lose this thing against these guys
that were playing. And I think that's what you look
at from that standpoint, But I just have to go
back to it when you come from a school like
James Madison, like Aiden Fisher, when you you know guys
that transfer in and you say this is the big
time and you've been able to play everybody and bludgeon
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everybody pretty much except for Ohio State, and you know
they struggled against Penn State. But Penn State, we're starting
to see now actually had some talent. It just didn't
show it all the time. But be able to be
more physical than the teams in your conference that everybody
talks about. That gives you a lot of confidence. But
I love what Kirk Signetti said leaving that, Hey, I
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got to figure out a way to get these guys
to stop smelling themselves, so to speak. And that's going
to be really critical because everybody's going to tell them
how good they are when they walk in that building
and into the unit where they are, they're going to
have coaches tell them, no, you're not that good. How
do we keep that boulder on our shoulder because we're
getting ready to go into another step and we got
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to really be ready to play and.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Some amazing stuff. By the way, I thought one of
the better players individual performances that went a little bit
unnoticed was Isaiah Jones. Defensively made some big plays, some
incredibly long runs, and some trackdowns in that game that
were necessary given the moments. And I don't think we
talked too much about it. He's going to join us
on the show later all this week, but I thought
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he had some big moments and that went over Ohio
State Saturday.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Well, hey, look man, and I know some of those
guys from those eighty seven eighty eight teams when they
had Bill Mallory, they were some They were some dudes
you want to go in the alley with, right, I mean,
even as they were older. I knew a bunch of
them living in Nby, and I can always hear them saying, Hey,
it can be done down at IU, but here are
the things you have to do, and so you can
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kind of see that. You see a bunch of tough
guys that you walk in the alley with and not
have a problem because they're gonna fight with you. They
won't run from you. They're gonna fight with you. And
that's what you got to have when you want to
be good in college football or any level of football,
and especially in the Big Ten, where you know, and
I'll just say this, I knew how you could play
with Ohio State when I saw how Michigan played in
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the first half against them in that game before the
Big Ten Championship. I almost texted you when that game
was happening because Michigan was pushing Ohio State around a
little bit. They just didn't have a guy at the
quarterback position. Yet it was grown up to understand how
to get through that, how to how to fight through
that next level when you have them down, so you
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stay on top of them and you just pin them down.
You understood how to come back. They knew how to
play in that game, and they knew how to stay close.
When the fourth quarter got there, they were able to
win that. So I'm interested to see how they battle
this next round. All right.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Charles Arbuckle, the former Colts tight end and UCLA Bruin
as well, and the Hoosiers will be playing instide his
old stomping grounds kinning up here on January or one,
a part of the Rose Bowl with Bama and Oklahoma.
Charles kind enough to join us on the Anymore Automotive
Group potline. Our expectation is we're watching a forty four
year old dude that's been retired for five years under
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center of the Colts coming up in Seattle on Sunday. Sorry,
whatever floats on boat. I mean, it seems like we've
seen everything else. Why not the right JMB.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
The other thing too, This league is so thickle, right, Yeah.
Sam Donell has played really well. They protected Sam, They've
done a lot with him. Drew Locke also as a
guy that's on their their you know, their roster. You
start getting the Sam early. We have seen him not
be as good. He's had a reclamation similar to Daniel Jones.
I do think they have to find ways to get
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to him, and when they do, that gives you a
chance to get the ball back some of the things
we saw earlier. If you don't get the Sam Darnold,
y're in for a long day because they run the
football and they try to get up on top of you.
And they got three receivers of two in particular Jackson
Smith and j Cooper Cupp who are tough about and
Cooper Cup is still playing like he's a young pub
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So you better be ready to play this team, and
you better start fast because if you don't, it's gonna
be a long day.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, we're also thinking about this too. Their secondary has
been significantly compromised. We know about Sauce Gardner and share
various ward and concussion protocol for a third time this year.
So all of that leads to not good. But we
shall see, Charles. I appreciate it, man. We'll catch up
again very soon, all.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right, man, take care.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The side of the Rose Bowl is Pasadena and coming
up on January the one to start a new year,
because it is a new legacy of value football in
year number two, number one rank going in to the
college football playoff. And the former Hoosier has a grin.
I am sure from ear to ear, the former linebacker
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and friend of the show, and they hady More Automotive
Group pile line. His name is Matt Surface. Hello, Matt Hey.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Jmvues have hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I can't stop smiling.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's an amazing time to be a who's your football fan?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Now, I would think it would be easier for you
to come to grips with the reality of this compared
to a lot of us out there that you know,
we weren't in the locker room like you were with
teams of the past, and you know, obviously a part
of the history too. Is it easier for you to say, yeah,
this is reality than us every single time it's brought up, go, wow,
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this is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Well, I see how the mental state of a team
can feel like going into every year, John, we thought
like we were gonna win. I mean, you know, and well,
you know, we only had a winning season really one
of the years.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
That I was playing down there.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But you still go in with a real good feeling,
a real good optimism because you know the work you
put in, you know the work your teammates have put in,
and you feel good about it. And it's almost a surprise,
quite frankly, when you lose some games. But then it
gets to be on kind of a role and you
know it really that snowball is hard to stop rolling
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down the hill, and so yeah, eventually it almost becomes inevitable.
But even I mean, I can't say that I'm not
shocked a little bit by just the way that they
have gone about their business this year, week by week,
and those plays that used to go the other way
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are now going the Hoosiers way. And it happened in
Iowa Penn State, and certainly then again in the biggest
game that I use ever played in football in Lucasoil
the other night.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
You know what, to Matt, the thing that you could
always count on is at some point is the talent
of the physicality of a team like Ohio State to overpower,
to swamp you no matter what might be going right
for a portion of a game. And it was iu
that fletxed in Ohio State on Saturday night that to
me was the most notable of the incredible circumstances. That
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is just such a huge change from what we have
known in the past, no.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Question, And we talked about it a few weeks ago
when we were discussing, I think after the Oregon game,
just how strong this defensive front seven is. But I mean,
you got to say the whole unit. But really, I
use always had some skill players here and there. Certainly
even in the NFL. We've put some defensive backs and
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a couple of line acts, but for the most part,
it's been that front seven that's been dare I say
dominated against team like you know, Michigan, Ohio State would
have been Oregon potentially this year.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
But this is a different unit.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I mean, this is there.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
We're the same colors, but this is a different brand
of football. And I mean defensively, they've just been amazing
up front. You know, we hear a lot about Heismandoza
and rightfully, so I'm on that train, right but and
Omark Cooper and sarat and Himby and Black and all
of that and well deserved. But in reality, the reason
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they are where they are is they haven't the two
teams score more than fifteen points all year. And I
mean it's just been an incredible display defensively. And you
saw it again in Lucasol Stadium, and they just the
way they shut down, or I won't say shut down
completely because Ohio they had a few place here and there.
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They weren't able to lean on IU though and take
advantage of it. And I you made them pick up,
you know, first down after first down instead of hitting.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
A bunch, you know, a couple of big.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Plays and at some point in that drive when you've
got to make them, you know, execute play in and
play out, they have a negative play. All of a sudden,
they're behind schedule, behind the sticks, and you saw a
lot of third downs that Ohio State could not convert
against this fantastic defense the Hoosiers at.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, and Matt Surfers the former or who's your defensive
players kind of not to join us on the Andy
Moore Auto Motive Group hotline. I'm assuming you're going right
to southern California.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I mean it's out.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
There, like, uh, there's a very strong possibility, but you know,
it just I think all things got to come into account.
But yeah, I mean I've been in great discussion with
the good friend of mine talking about.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Heading out there.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
I mean, it's hard to think of missing the Hoosiers playing,
you know, not just in the CFP the playoffs, but
but being the number one seed and doing it.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
In the Rose Bowl. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I mean, the fact that they get to play that
game in the Rose Bowl, I think it's fitting. So yeah,
I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Opportunity as a as a high level quarterback and what
is going to be ultimately a future Heisman Trophy winner
in Fernando Mendoza. What trait does he have either skill
set physically or mentally or just as outgoing nature too
of leadership. What trait stands out to you as far
as what he presents at the highest level for this
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football team and its success.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I feel like his accuracy, his ability to read and
know where the ball needs to be and then throw
it exactly where it needs to be. I mean that
is I mean, a lot of people can get it
within a good vicinity, but to throw it on point
in the biggest moments of the game, man, that takes
just that takes calm demeanor internally, even though you know
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there's emotions and so forth. But to be able to
kind of settle that, lower the heart rate and execute.
I just to me, it's amazing how he is so
accurate in the biggest moments of football games.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I feel just so comfortable having that guy.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And I love just his you know, humility. I love
his the way everything is about.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Team and winning.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And he's done just an amazing job to throw thirty
three touchdowns to only six interceptions and complete but it's
like over seventy percent of his balls. I mean, it's
just incredible. And to me, I bet you know, his
stats in the second half, I'm sure better than the
stats in the first half, just because of how.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Clutch he's been.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Is really the only way to say.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It, Hey, declare the cobwebs immediately following that first hit
by Caden on the first play and over overcome that.
I mean, it's one thing to talked about it afterwards,
as as he has done, and rightly so when asked,
but you know, to shake that off in the the
expeditious fashion and what she did that may have been
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the most incredible maneuver of the night because I know
all i U fans thought at that moment that things
were in dire circumstances and his brother was out there
for what a play And then there he comes trotting
back in and is good to go, and that he
got absolutely drilled by Cayden on that play too.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Oh he did.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
And I mean, I can't say enough about the game
Curry played, man.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
I mean, he's a hell of a play.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I mean, he's a believable I mean I've watched a
few games this year, and he's been great, There's no question.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I mean, the guy's got eleven on the year, and you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Know what, he's waited his turn over there too. I
mean it's been a long time coming for him to
be able to show it at that level.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Absolutely, and and it's great to see, you know, an
IU guy or an IU an Indiana kid to do
well out there wherever they are. I certainly root for
anybody played high school in the state of Indiana, and
he played at a great program and he's a phenomenal player.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
But yeah, that shot.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That he gave Mentoza was just something that defensive players
dream about and and you know, left him knocked him
out of the game. You don't want him to get hurt,
but I'm telling you, man, there's bad intentions when defenders
are hitting people with the ball or quarterbacks, and uh,
you know, you don't want to injure them, but you
don't mind them getting the win knocked out of them
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for sure. So h for him Mendoza to go off
and to come back like a play later, I thought
was just shows the toughness, the commitment to the team.
I mean a lot of people would have tried. I
think just because you know, every everybody that's playing.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
At that level, for the most part, loves it.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I mean they love the game, they love their teammates.
But I mean not a lot could because that was
a devastating shot and yeah, I was concerned about the shoulder,
but just the way he took the hit, but thankfully
all was okay, and he showed some toughness and leadership
in immediately.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Coming back out former who's your Matt surface on the
Andy Moore Automatic Group podline. You could certainly tell us
because you played the game at that level before. But
when we often talk about Kurt Signetti being ahead of
the opposing coach or you know, out in front of
what actually is going on to more easily change up
and make the right calls, is that what you see
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play after play, And it just seems like that very
few coaches have that going for them, and when they do,
you can certainly tell, and I think with Signetti that's
something you can certainly tell.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
So it's one thing to make the kind of the
right call right, the ones that are down on paper
that everybody knows you probably should make. Now, some coaches
go against the grain and try to, you know, buff
the system and play by the gut. And I appreciate
that sometimes, but it feels like you're It does feel
like he's always ahead of the game, but it doesn't
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like it's not confined to just the game. In game call,
he has these guys ready to play every stinking week, man,
I mean, and and to do that when when when
you got to play, Uh, I don't know Maryland, I mean,
or Nebraska or who you know, teams that you probably
should be. No disrespect to Nebraska, of course, But what
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I'm getting at is he's got him ready to play,
and regardless of what happens in the game, they're coming
out and playing and making the next play. And and
he says that like in the pregame or any of
the interviews, next play, next play. And that's been instilled
in his team. It's not just coach speed. He's he's
(34:01):
driving us there on the on the on the practice
fields in Bloomington. He's driving it home there because it
comes out to put to fruition.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
In the games.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
And uh, you can't just show up on Saturday and
give a raw Ross speech and hope that's gonna work.
He's instilled that from the beginning, and that's clear as
anything that he's really really built that into the team,
and that's a big reason why they are where they are.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
So anybody you'd rather see more Oklahoma or Alabama in
this case for the Rose Boy.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
That's a great I've been trying. I've been going back
and forth.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
I feel like I feel like I just haven't been
sold on Oklahoma the entire year.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
And I know that Materier was hurt.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
For a little bit, but I I feel like they
have a really good defense, but I really don't believe
their defense is as good as Ohio States, and so
for that reason, I mean, I feel like I'd rather
probably play Oklahoma. But it's a coin flip. I think
the Hoosiers are in a handle whoever they play, not easily,
but I think they're going to take care of business
(35:05):
because of the defense that they play and the way
that they execute offensively. And that that interception that Fernando
threw on Saturday, I mean, my goodness, it's not like
he just made a bad decision that threw it into coverage.
I mean it was it was a ball that got
tipped up and caught by the defender. So you know,
I feel like they take care of the ball and
(35:26):
and they don't let you score touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You like me, I don't care who we play.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Will you like me? And listen? Well, I have a
great deal of trust and you should with the IU
defense because it's shown. I was really glad that, for
whatever reason, Ryan Dayan company decided not to every single
time out throw it to one of those two wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Particularly Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Lord, have mercy. That dude is talented as hell.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Man, amazing by just and to have this eyes that
he doesn't and to be able to run like he can't.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
No, I mean, I'd be hard pressed. I'd be hard
pressed not to just like throw it to them every
single time, like either Or or Smith.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I believe me, I know, and that's why I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So he threw it to one of those time ends.
I go, great, great, great call.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Where to go? Right?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Well yeah, go ahead and take that first down.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And we'll there's that former guy out there.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Good keep it away from from Smith.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
But now it's interesting, I don't have.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
A tip your cat.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
What about Ponds man?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean the way that Ponds played in coverage, I mean, yeah, okay,
I'm not going to say Smith didn't have a good game,
because he really did, there's no.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But but he didn't, you know, he didn't kill the
Hoosiers and he ultimately didn't score any touchdowns. And I
credit there was some really really good coverage on some
tough plays sure that I you made. And so yeah,
give credit to that secondary and the pressure that was
I'm saying to.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
But yeah, I hope that when we meet them again
in the final game, and I believe that's what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I hope that we can shut.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Them down the sane thinking about that too. Six sacks
the entire season and I you got him on Saturday
night five times, which is pretty impressing. All Right, we'll
check in. We'll check in when we find out who
they're going to play once again. But you got you
got to let me know if you find travel plans
and lodging out there for that particular well, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
It'll probably be on the discount budget.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
But hey, we got to get out there.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Well done, brother, I appreciate you. Hey, congratulations. I know
as a former AU football player, there's a lot of
gratifying moments you have seen in the last two years,
and this certainly so far as the top of the heat.
Congratulations on that.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
It feels great.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I remember when I first started talking with Bob Lovell
on shows on Saturday twenty years ago that I speak
a big game and think that we're gonna win and
then you know, but I honestly never dreamed that the
Hoosiers would be ranked number one the nation. Feel start good, John,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Got it? Thanks Matt on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline.
There he is Greg Rigstraw. Hello, Greg, we got to
go really quick. How are you brother?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I am sorry to make your way like that, sir.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Great Hey Philip Rivers today, what are you thinking about
the signing?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Uh? It's kind of an acknowledgement as to what is
available and out there in the quarterback market. With four
weeks left to go in the season, you get to
a certain point where you simply run out of available talent.
Like I got a text and a phone call, you know,
on Sunday about you know, should Chris Ballad have done
something to address the backup quarterback positions before I knew
(38:51):
that Riley Leonard was hurt, you know, after Anthony Richardson
was hurt back in week six and John there's just
not that many guys available then or trade for a
backup quarterback. You get to week fifteen, the market is
picked bare. So is this gonna work? I don't think so.
I don't think it's going to But you know what,
(39:12):
it's not like there was somebody else of the current
market they were going to pluck out and be able
to come in and have success.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I will say this, I don't think they're bringing him
in without a thought or a belief that he can
help them win a couple of games here down the stretch.
I mean, I think it's more than just stop gap
in this case, or you know, the lack of anybody
on this market. I think that there is a belief.
I mean it may be ill advised belief, but there's
(39:40):
certainly a belief there.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Greg correct. And you know, when you see highlights for
what he was doing five years ago, you worry about
the arm strength then, and then you have five years
of not training on a regular basis on top of that.
Does he know the offense? Absolutely? I think his mine
still sharp? Absolutely? And maybe you could said there wasn't
(40:02):
as much physical gifts that we're going to fall fall,
you know, off the table, but proofs of the pudding
we'll see on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, no doubt about that. So and clearly, I mean
they've decided to crank up the whole practice week with
trying to get him acclimated in mind. What do you
think the odds are that he starts that game on Sunday?
Are they as high as I think they are to you?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I think he's a likely starter on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Me too, you know. I mean, you've.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Got Brett Ripping that's on your practice squad, but you
don't make this move to bring him in as the
backup or the in case guy. I think he's the
starting quarterback on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
All right, quick, A couple of quick thoughts regarding AU
going to the Rose Bowl the number one seed in
the college football Playoff. I think we've all described it
accurately how unbelievable it is. But the chances this team
can move forward, even breaking new ground more so than
what we thought against Ohio State on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
If you can beat Ohio State, you can win the
Big Ten championship. You can beat anybody else that's out there,
and then you run the table and win all three games.
But the next barrier to break for Indiana football, remember
they have not won a bowl game, a postseason game
since the Copper Bowl in nineteen ninety one. And for
as great as last season was and getting to play
(41:21):
in the College Ball Playoff, they weren't that Competitive's notre Dame.
So that is the next barrier to trip for this
program is now go win the Rose Bowl and to
be able to play games after that. Again, it still
takes a little bit of brain rewiring to say that,
but go win a bowl game for the first time
in nearly forty years.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
Now, that's incredible stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
What's your week look like?
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Greg?
Speaker 5 (41:44):
Tonight is my off night, and then it is LCLN
tomorrow night at guy U Indy Greenberry. On Thursday night,
it is Carmel and Noblesville Friday night, it is a
doubleheader at Southport on Saturday night, and then it's Cults on.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Someone who's Southport on Saturday night.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
Right, this is the tip Off Classic, as has been
sponsored by form Credit.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Here means they're going to cut down the nets afterwards.
That's problematic for me. On Sunday morning, Greg, But thanks
for jing.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
They're probably going to do that after the Marion County
Tournament and the regional and the semi state. I don't
think they're cutting the nets down after the Superstar Events
tip off Classics, So you'll be able to yell short
no problem.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
This week Fine, that's good, as I know nobody else
around those are going to cut any nets down eight
time soon, so I feel confident in that. But no, seriously,
who's in that matchup this weekend?
Speaker 5 (42:33):
All right? So twelve teams are playing starts at twelve thirty.
We'll have all six games in the ISC Sports Network.
My two games in the last two games on my
NDTV twenty three Carmel and Crown Point at seven, followed
by Fishers and Penn at eight thirty.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Man Fishers, what did you think about Fishers and Mount Vernon,
Because you had a lot of stars there, from a
gardener to an urdle and all the way around. You
had a lot of stars in that particular matchup early
season wise.
Speaker 5 (43:02):
Correct, And the way I would describe it is that
Fishers can still be the best team in the state.
It's just they don't have the margin for error. That
they had, and Garol Wineger was pretty critical of his
team after the game and talking with Kylevin Enderp, I
think that was sending a message more than anything else.
This Fishers team is probably have to win on what
they do defensively. Let's face it, they got three of
the best players in the state in terms of Gardener,
(43:24):
in terms of Zachary, and in terms of mcgru But
they were so offensively beautiful to watch over the course
of the last couple of years. They're still trying to
figure that out a little bit. And frankly, you can
kind of sit on more guys. You couldn't really do that.
There was not a guy you could just dare to
shoot an open jump shot because he'd make it over
the course of the last couple of seasons. So Fishers
(43:46):
is still really good. But they're probably gonna win a
lot more games in the forties and fifties than they've
had to the last couple of years when they were
putting up seventy eighty no problem on a given night.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Keep on keeping on, man, I appreciate you dropping in.
We'll see what you guys have good to talk talk about.
On Sunday after the game I mean, it could be
incredibly interesting or not, but could be.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I think it's going to be interesting whether it's good
or bad. It's a different story, and obviously I hope
for the hope of the former in that equation.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
You got it. Thanks Greg,
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